Triumph Speed 400 And Scrambler 400 X UNVEILED | ZigAnalysis On The New 400cc Bonnevilles
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Triumph’s affordable Bonnevilles have broken cover. Yes, the Speed 400 and the Scrambler 400 X are the new British bikemaker’s contenders in the 400cc space, trying to offer a good sense of balance between sportiness and retro cool flavours. In this video, Jehan delves deeper into what the bikes are packing, how each one is different from the other and what could the possible pricing of each bike be?
Click the chapters below to jump to the bits you want to know about:
00:00 The Big Reveal
00:22 New 400cc Engine
01:25 Sophisticated?
02:17 Sporty Bonneville Design
04:14 Rugged Look
05:47 Simple Feature List?
06:57 Premium Hardware
09:58 The PRICE Is…
Host: Jehan Adil Darukhanawala
DoP: Kamesh Chauhan
Editor: Amar Katkar
Graphics: Shreelesh Shirke
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All eyes are on the pricing
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It will be placed over 3.5 lakhs
@@sash0047 super meteor 650
@@sash0047 it's a single cylinder with less electronics too and with Baja ..so it should be cheaper than KTMs I am assuming..
My guess would be 3L-3.2L max
Let's hope for the best.
as per the premium quality of triumph above 3.5lakhs
So many new bikes locking horns. By the end of this year, sub 500cc segment is going to be completely revised, imagine the varieties that'll be available to riders. 2023 going to be one spicy meatball.
Anything below 3 lakh and this will be a huge success , looks like a pure triumph ... initially I was afraid it might have some design elements from bajaj but that's not the case.Looks phenomenal.
How much is it in dollars?
@@andrearizzuto6648 converting that to dollars won't give you a fair idea as prices cannot be normalized against different currencies or markets. In india ktm duke 390 is cheaper then ninja 300 and upcoming mt03. However it's the other way round in most of the countries.India is a very price sensitive market and the failure or success of the product depends on the pricing to a huge extent.
@@andrearizzuto6648Under 5000 USD.
According to UK’s MOTO BOB: The ABS is switchable on the Scrambler 400x and non switchable on the Speed 400. Traction Control is offered on both models along with slipper clutch.
True
It is also noted that traction control also will be switchable on Scrambler 400x
@@mithunrajc that’s very very helpful especially when you’re on to trails
Yep, that's what it is.
Now, bring a Tiger 400 and a Daytona 400..
No,keep the Daytona away from the single cylinder class.
Shitty single cyl Tiger?
@@killingmachinelp do u think they will develop a twin for tiger? Heard about platform sharing?
Daytona 🤕
Don’t give me hope.
They could have atlest bought daytona 765. 😭
@@thehungking 😂 can’t argue with that but hate triumph for discontinuing daytona
Considering it's a city motorcycle, and here in India it's more like the primary way of commuting and an occasional touring machine, please cover details like
1) Rider posture
2) Torque characteristics in the lower end (cover hill climbing, gear ranges and economical low speed city driving efficiency when compared to Royal Enfield)
4) Turning radius
5) Pillion comfort (sideways seating included)
6) 0 to 60, 0 to 100 time
7) Comfortable cruising speeds
8) Mirror angles and practicality for Indian scenarios
The bike looks spectacular, classic triumph design, torquey motor with good 9.5k rev limit. India price is going to be way less than international version
What about CB350RS? Won't the Speed 400 directly compete with it? And in that case which one is a more value for money?
The Triumph 400s will cost at least 1lakh more than the CB. It's no competitor. The Duke 390, CB300R, G310R are their competitors.
I have booked both let's see which one catches my eye and wins my heart ! Good time to be a biker in India !
Both looks beautiful. Hero-Harley Davidson designers should take note 🤦♂🤦♂
Please do a comparison with the CB350 twins as well
the speedo is kept in lines with the retro look and feel of the bike. TFT screens are for the moden bikes
This is love at first sight ❤
What about mileage for these bikes ?? Can we expect atleast 25 to 30kpml ?
Please give us the authentic Wet Weights and Seat Heights, because Triumph India website says it is 841mm/186kg wet for the Scrambler and 798mm/170kg wet for the Speed 400, whereas all the major channels are saying it is 835mm/179kg wet for Scrambler and 795mm/170kg wet for the Speed400.
International specs suggest the latter.
Excellent initial impressions.. Loved the details ..
EXCELLENT review.
THANK YOU.
10/10.
Scrambler 400x looks more upmarket and big bike due its larger wheel, disk size, wheelbase and more importantly its color scheme while looks identical to Bonneville range.
as he points out in the video ,, the small air-cooled 350cc enfield hunter weighs 181kg wet.. Enfield needs to make their bikes lighter.. Some people like the nature of the long stroke air-cooled 350cc enfield engine ,, but they need slighty more power 10-15% and some serious weight reduction.. take of 12kg on all models.. A Hunter with a wet weight of 169kg and 30Nm of torque and 23.2hp.. , a 350 Meteor with a wet weight of 179kg and the classic 350 coming in at 183kg... the super meteor at 229kg. (not the heavy 241kg stock)
This new engine has exactly the same bore (89mm) as the Bajaj Dominar 400 but a slightly longer stroke to increase midrange and bottom end torque..
This year is going to be best year for mid range segment.
This bike, HD440, Aprilia is coming with rs440 and Yamaha will launch r3.
Damn so many options to choose with verity of models 😅
I think x400 should be least expensive than others
@@devaustin_320 yes it's too generic compared to o other bikes.
was fixed to buy dominar 400 way back in december. But have been waiting for this Bajaj-triumph alliance and hero-harley alliance. To be honest the scrambler 400x looks made me give a second thought about dominar 400 and man harleyH400 made me forget the first two. All eyes are on pricing and as he said Bajaj should do its bajaj thing just like it did with dominar 400. Would love to hear everyone about comaprison of these 3 bikes from @zigwheels and the audience. ^^
Triumph/Bajaj F** up one thing that is the speedo, being a CBR 250 rider I love analog digital mix, but how could they flip the places of speedo and tacho...
Looks dam good..waiting for the review
Can't you ride both the bikes on july 5th? Why August for scrambler?
Is that miniature model of Imperiale 400 on the table?
wheare is yamaha R3 & MT-03.....? after 4 years of waiting ...?
I'd like to nit-pick by asking for a better looking instrument cluster, better rear grab rail and maybe better tail lights, because for the time being it kinda looks like the ronin from the straight front and rear
Please review the cruising speed, vibration luggage carrying capacity, and engine heating during the first ride review.
I want to Congratulate the Triumph Motorcycles Manufacturing company and the Team involved in designing,Developing and Manufacturing such a beautiful Champion 400CC Motorcycles🙏
Will it be sold in India from triumph dealership ?
Bhai i want to know will these two 400cc model motorcycles run smoothly with 20% Ethanol mix Petrol
They should hopefully be E20 compatible.
So what about the < 2L price promise from B-T?
with this, the HD 400s and the new RE ones the the sub 500cc range is going to have more bikes than ever before not to forget the cfmoto and other new brands in the same range
Just a quick comparison of it with New 390 and Interceptor in your review
Love it -lets see what the price is--Himalaya 450 in September will be the competition
I'd rather pay for better hardware than stuff like bluetooth or navigation.
Looking forward to test riding the Speed 400.
Someone pls share the official vdo . 😊
I hope accessories of these bikes can be used for street twin too
The probability of these being priced under 3 lakhs is very slim. These are premium mid range bikes from a brand like Triumph, no way this is below 3.5 or 4 lakhs on-road for sure
Since you mentioned spotting the bike yourself- How did that exhaust sound?
Hmm, wasn't that loud. But at 100kmph, I was battling wind noise more. So, all will be revealed on 5th
Wait for the review
Is the feel gonna be like a thumpy classic or smooth modern with classical design
A mix of both
Now that ur price prediction for 400 is little incorrect what do think will be the pricing for duke 390
Compression ratio is 12:1 is it good??
Look to have typical triumph quality and polish 👏👏👍
Everything is bang on 🔥 but the only thing I slightly worried about is the cost of ownership (spares + service) 🥺
Can you compare hunter 350 vs speed 400 vs 400x
Bajaj Triumph 400X should be test drived
It's just kind of perfect bike
Design looks dope, i hope they price it better
Bike may be cheaper due to bajaj but we should remember it's a Triumph in the end the service costs may not be same as bajaj service and dealer network is also not widespread. It could be a repeat of what happened with TVS-BMW same bikes and parts but much larger cost differences just for the badge. Same thing with Honda CB350. Honda has a large service network but they can't service the CB350. So you need to travel to the service center spending a large part of the day in travelling for a work that will take around an hour to be done. Triumph should set up service points at bajaj service center with trained individuals.
It's going to be hell of confusion 😅 HD 440X ON 3rd July and TRIUMPH 400 on 5th July.. Ohhh..ohhh...ohhh soo excited 🤩🤪
But the main focus would be on pricing, if they manage to set that right then these beauties will go head to head with RE and HONDA 350 and even with the Himalayan and DUKE 390 and . But its difficult because it's not a BAJAJ product like the DOMINNER. So we hope TRIUMPH And HD will understand the market and youth as they are going compete in a very craving segment. Wishing GOOD LUCK from a bike enthusiast❤❤.
HD produces uncle bikes youth will simply go for triumph.
9:35 You can see 400x also has floating disk brake which are superior.
Doesn't the Speed 400 also have floating disk?
@@varun2250No. You will can see the design of disk is different in both bike at 9:35 there are rivets on 400x disk connecting it instead of being one piece. This is superior in heat dissipation and other things.
@@SurajSinghTomarArya Thank you for sharing this.
Speed scrambler has rc like disc rotor
Good one boyo
This will increase sales of RE interceptor if not of Bajaj Triumph for sure 😂😂😂😂😂
Except engine nothing is good in RE650
Bike features dekh ke nahi lete dost. Bike is meant to have a good engine. That’s whole experience is all about.
@@tejasmithari bike is not just engine. Who the hell want shit features. Ergonomics matters. Braking matters. Handling matters. High speed stability matters. Nothing is impressive in RE650 except engine. I rest my case
It is f**king triumph.
@@JC-nx5xxyuppp that's the reason that stopped me from getting it
New Launch of Triumph Speed 400cc, I humble requested to the Team's of Bajaj Triumph JV, please provide with add on accessories option such as: Smart Connect TFT Console, Tyre Hugger, Split Seat, Fuel Tank protector, Headlight Guards, Saree Guard with Footrest etc, finally I got my Dream Roadster Cruiser Bike myself Prasanth Nayar Agriprenure Andaman and Nicobar Islands Union Territory of INDIA. Since 2003 Bajaj Kawasaki 115 Hoodibaba
Price would definitely be north of 3 Lakhs, upto 3.5 lakhs, may be even more after fully accessorising.
Everything as of now is perfect. Nothing major has been skipped. And pls stop this obsession with Bluetooth, rather have an affordable bike without Bluetooth than a costly one due to its inclusion. Now, if only the pricing is perfect, we’ll see a paradigm shift in the Indian motorcycling space. I’LL probably begin saving money…….
Please do Harley x440 Triumph speed 400 and scrambler 400 comparison. After launch
Something was looking off on these bikes which I realised just now! The swingarm is really short on these bikes! If it had a slightly longer swingarm, it would complete the look!
Why? That would just make the steering a bit lazy.
@@zigwheels Indeed! It's more towards Form Vs Function! Functionally this is better, and even though the bike is stunner, something seems a bit disproportionate towards the rear end! Either the seat is too long or the swingarm is too short. Bt nevermind! Amazing looking bike!
@@Abhishek4893he bike overall looks off but good at the same time for me lol
This should be a twin cylinder. even if it was an air cooled sohc unit would be just fine. When market is already been flooded by single cylinder bike adding one more at premium price doesn't make sense.
Buddy, I would like to know the comparison of this T400 with KTM 390 ADVENTURE, Dominar 400, and Interceptor 650. Please keep this in your mind and try to review accordingly
i like console and since it has only 13l tank i dont think company think it for touring in that sense no bt is good i like it
Tension in Hero Harley camp...😂
They messed the 440x hero hatley design
No tension. This will be more expensive than hero harley
Bajaj forcing Hero Harley to price 440x lower, then 440x price will force Bajaj to reduce the price a bit. Win for the customer 😅
Dominor 400 has almost same power figures , does it mean ?🙂🙂🙂🙂
Triumph India website says - Scrambler 400 weighs 186kgs wet & not 179.. 🤷♀️
Right
The international specs that we received have stated 179kg. Thanks for pointing it out.
Introductory price should be 2,49,000 Rs.😊
Guys , does it look like Ronin....?? Or just in videos
itll sell like hot cake if pricing is right .
Nice shirt, where can I buy?
Don't know man, got it as a gift.
Triumph Tiger 400
What sensation it would be
But everyone is on fight with RE
I need to know the price more than anything else !
Compare with Harley x440
Chalayenge aur karenge!
it will be definitely dominar engine 😅 just like tvs and jawa did
2:50 is the best price
It's more or less a scale down variant of Trident not Bonneville
ZigWheels♥️
Indian buyers wants a good brand value bike but also wants price to be under 2-2.5 lakh😅. Bike looks super awesome and main thing is pricing and i am damm sure if it becomes a hit then triumph will brick other bikes also for india.
If they can price the scrambler @3.2lakhs...i'll be getting it no doubt
No chance. Ex showroom will be 3 lakhs above. In big cities on road will touch 4 lakhs
Not sure but I feel it's a Triumph's Splendor. Not a Statement bike for a person like RE.
I wish they had given a twin cylinder!
Market for twin cylinder is still small..
But eventually.. may be 5-10years down the line we will have good twin cylinder bikes as Indian will start doing well financial asa country.
Price would touch 5 lakhs if this was a twin cylinder 😂
Can triumph scrambler be a rival to KTM390 adventure?
Not exactly. If you are only looking at it as a soft roader, then maybe yeah. If for proper off roading, wait and watch.
Was waiting for Scrambler... But seat height too high. 😢
Don't fret too much though, slim mid section is what Triumph say
Its the same DOHC setup with same power figures like KTM any single cylinder with DOHC above 350 cc with such power figures means high compression and it will ultimately result in high vibes...I don't think it will be refined for sure.. telling from past 1 year of experience on these kind of engines. Even cbr250r is DOHC but due to lower compression being single cylinder it was a refined legendary machine.. even KTM duke 250 is DOHC but 390 is not so Reliable and needs its tappet and and other things adjusted sometimes the rocker arm gets damaged and also many other things. Too much power in such single cylinder DOHC setup causes issues in reliability and refinement in the long run. The power and torque figure and also the compression shouldn't be that high as KTM i guess it will be same..
So there are bigger differences than you think. Firstly, it is counterbalanced, eliminating the harsh vibes. Next, not too rev happy, lower compression ratio = more torque and better all round rideability.
@@zigwheels for your kind info KTM also has counterbalancer and also a good one with highly durable bearings connected opposite to the coolant pumping fan, if you say it has lower compression than it will be fine..lets wait for compression and other details if it matches with ktm 390 i bet it will not be good for long term reliability
@@whiteshadow7892just wait a day mate.
it will cost about 3.5lakhs ex showroom
the pricing would be between 3.2 - 3.5 L if its lower than this theres a winner there is no such player in 400 segment
Yes, ex showroom price will be 3.2 lakhs. On road it will touch 4
2:59 lakh is my prediction
We need a new mordern double cylinder sports bike in india . R15 is good for 2.5 lakhs for 155 cc single, i would pay 4 lakhs for a 300 cc double
After watching this detail video - th-cam.com/video/apXzoMnlR8g/w-d-xo.html
I understand what need to be modified in Tvs Ronin to look it like a real scrambler. As ronin got everything what these triumphs has but didn't look that promising which triumph looks like.
These will be pricier than than the ktm 390s. Not sure how many of us would be able to expend such money let alone buy one. People with such expendable money will definitely go on n buy 'proper' triumphs.
Only way this one's gonna be hit to bring the price below 2.5lakhs for the speed atleast, cos the hunter 350 is selling comparatively at such a 'low' price.
Looks way better than hunter350
230 mm rear disc. But its shown 330mm @ 9:44
Sorry about that, late night chaos caused some errors. Will try to eliminate these in the future. Peace🙏🏻
@@zigwheels 👍👍
Hero will now soon discontinue xpulse t and release xpulse scram as seen at eicma 2018!
As long as carplay doesnt come in lower range bikes, everything else is just gimmicks and i would rather they spend money on the mechanics than bluetooth and turn by turn
Why is not having a quickshifter seen as a good thing?
yes, because a good one will be expensive, and a mediocre one is no use
Because the KTM one is trash.
A good quickshifter is appreciated, like Yamaha's. A poorly executed one, no thanks. *cough*KTM 390s*cough*
If this comes under 3.5 lacs. it will sell the highest within 🇮🇳
2.9L ex Showroom
3.1 onroad and you have a buyer
This bike are going to be available in KTM showroom 😊
Nope, at Triumph showrooms only.
That's ugliest RPM meter I have seen in my life. Tail light is also not the best looking but overall its perfect and everything depends upon the pricing. Ideally it shouldn't cost more than KTM 390s. Tail light should have looked like CB350RS.
IMO I liked the design of tail light.
I agree about instrument cluster on bike. It just doesn't support the premium feel the bike had. It feels cheap and aftermarket.