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Moog Labyrinth: Explained & Generative Techno Jams
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Moog Labyrinth combines east & west coast synth, with two generative sequencers designed for improvising ideas endlessly. I'll first explain the voice (1:46), then the sequencers (11:32), then I'll explore the possibilities sonically from (26:32) combining Labyrinth with 3 x DFAMs, Mother-32, TR8, and more.
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YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT THE LABYRINTH'S INVENTOR'S MUSIC
Several times in this video I mention Max Ravitz who records & performs as 'Patricia'. Max conceived Labyrinth and brings his unique perspective and broad gear experience to this device. He's also an upsettingly good musician. Strongly recommend checking out his tunes if you like chicago house/dusty cassette acid techno/90's Warp Records - he's got the ear for a riff. Here's a couple of example bangers to start with, check out the full albums/EPs and all the rest, and there's live sets on TH-cam if you seek them out:
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And thanks to our kid @DivKid for stopping by. 🫖
CHAPTERS
00:00 What's a Labyrinth?
01:46 Voice Explained
11:32 Sequencers Explained
26:32 Mavis & Laby Jam
30:50 The Techno Bells
31:34 Proper Techno
32:40 Tuff Techno
34:27 Extremely Tuff Bass
36:49 Tuff Bass Techno
38:53 Duophonic Drums
43:39 Ambient Buffersaving
46:40 TR8 & Mavis MIDI Techno
53:34 Heaven & Hell
58:17 Cosmic Family Jam
1:04:43 Post Credits Scene
This is the labyrinth demo we need 🎉
Holy moly. My entire feed dropped the same video simultaneously. I’m glad you’re one of them.
Thanks m8. Yep it's release time!! RELEASE THE KRAKEN (if the kraken is a generative synth)
Amazing machine, but let's be fair, it takes an amazing artist to handle it as you just showed us. Thanks man
What a time to be alive! One of my favorite patches as a stand alone module! :)
“Yes mate… flippin’ ‘eck… ooof…. urgh” 😂 🙌
Mine’s arriving tomorrow 😁
this also seems to be the most complex moog modular, this circuit has so much going on. it sounds so rich for only 2 oscs, very dfamy, much techno.
wow!!!
Dammit I was hoping it wouldn’t be this good.
Max there is a wizard and has damn good taste!!
…. Because u don’t have the money left…
No one else demo this machine like Tom. His presentation sold me Swarm ) Looks like Labyrinth will be the next one.
This might be the most bleep bloop machine that ever did bleep bloop.
And i love that. If that had been available four years ago it would have saved me 20 K in eurorack modules.
So happy to have this demo with such good music playing the whole time, probably the most entertaining review/demo I've ever seen!
My ears just came and squirted everywhere, as my bank balance just looked on and shook it's head. Damn you Mr Bank Balance, this will be mine!
Couldn't stop smiling the whole way through. Awesome grooves, man.
🙌
The only reason I picked up this as a (n expensive) hobby. Absolute legend!
This Moog semi modular ecosystem is a really fun playground. Can you buy individual modules that are perhaps more specialized? Sure. But these modules are really compelling on their own, thoughtfully executed, especially for the price. But when built into a system they really shine, as seen here. If you have the space I could see just rolling with these and nothing else and being very very happy.
Damn son, that's what I call a Moog sound studio what you have there 🎉🎉🎉 :)
Great video as always :)
Damn my setup was perfect and didn't need any updates before I watched this. This was made for techno, amazing architecture
Dang it I wasn’t gonna buy this but Mylar you did it again
Never watch a Mylar video, if you don’t wanna buy gear 😂
I've been trying to convince myself that I don't need that new moog all week, and then here comes mylarmelodies to show me that I absolutely do.
hah I love the pure joy you experienced with Cosmic Family Jam, can tell you were having the best fun. Great demo... making me want to get similar setup.
@mylarmelodies - just adding to my comment, i have no modular setup. I have a Syntakt/Minifreak/AH+FX... and im thinking of getting M32/DFAM and now Labyrinth as a trio, just to experiment like i see you doing, do you reckon its a good move? or should i get something like Cascadia ? I'm keen to stay in semi-modular world for the time being. I just want to make noise similar to this vid!
Gosh a cascadia and a labyrinth would certainly be a thing. I was thinking about that exact setup. Lot of money of course but it would have every sound imaginable plus the sequences to go with it.
I think this is your best demo since the truly evil Quantrid Swarm
24:50 is a BANGER! Once again, the GOAT of techno video jammers showers GAS on us all!
Them Grace Jones vibes are strong with this one (no Bowie) - this was fun, thanks. Not hard Imagining an 0 CTRL waging the Minotaur's tail.
Oh yes to 0Ctrl, all the stepped modulation!!
No brainer, immediate purchase. This is the moog my system needed. Additionally, you pulled some mad fire out of that box.
there are very very few synth demos where i actually like the music coming out of the devices... but yours is really nice. great work
I don’t mind the Roland stuff but there is just something about the overall feel and textures when the Moog gear is working together. Thanks so much mate!
Moar Mysterious Moog Madness!
This one is definitely one my wishlist now. Thank you for demoing these in a way only you can do. 👍
Edit: How can anyone not like a guy (and his jams!) that uses THREE DFAMs? That's so awesome...
been waiting for this video. ty
Triple DFAM is taking things to the next level 😄
The Tuff Techno groove is super great, it really slaps.
I just got it today ! Hyped up! It's so cool. The first time i saw it i thought this is the most interesting semi in the moog set. Without a doubt, this one is funky. If you're into eurorack and generative sounds you're gonna like this synth. I wasn't expecting to get it on release day but i got 1 of the 4 units that store got in stock. Not to worry for those who want one, something tells me there's alot availability right away now. What's strange in my opinion is i never expected moog to release two new semi's in this series so close to each other.
The spectravox is only official release appx. 2 months ago, now this. If there's another new model in 2 months count me out for now unless i hit the lottery. 🤖
Lit vid. Mylar goated. 🔥🎈🐐
That drum sequence from about 41:00 is absolutely killer. Love it.
Damn, knew I shouldn’t have watched this, didn’t think I needed it lol, sold as soon as you mention Turin Machine lol
This is the first of these boxes that's really piqued my interest. I especially like the ability to flip the filter/wavefolder order is a really nice, but also the flexibility of two voices and two filters opens up so many possibilities.
That jam at 38:40 is phreaking phenomenal. Love all the jams, but that stood out.
And just when you think 3 DFAMs is enough...
The jam with the TR8 makes me think my Drumlogue, some effects, and this thing is all I need for some great techno fun. Add in an Impulse Command and you have a techno beast trilogy...
Thanks Paul!! Yes, less is quite often more (or at least - enough) with this sort of thing (although three DFAMs beg to differ 🤓)
Damn, I’ve been wanting a similar mood set up. Then I had it in my head “ sell all electronic gear focus on guitar your getting older” I will get stuck on it and not play guitar for a month or 2.
Now “ sell electronic gear for table o moog “ I need to delete TH-cam.
Lol thanks for the review
I just got finished being so impressed with the spectravox and then this thing also??
My takeaway lesson from this synth is that I should give Tom a few more bucks for a second Turing Machine 😂
This is always a valid takeaway
I'll take twelve!
@@GeorgeLocke My current count: Four 🤪
Thats my takeaway from every other mylar Video :D
I think I can resist buying this device, but it inspires me to try to make it happen with what I already have.
((I'll probably buy it))
Oof the cosmic family jam is delightful!
Super big thanx for sharing your tutorial….it’s amazing what’s possible with the sequencer …mine comes yesterday…I have to learn more to find a way out of the labyrinth 😅! Best greetz 🖖👽
That jam starting at 10:10 maaaaaaaate
Buffer feature is so killer. Looking forward to adding this one to the setup.
Thanks m8. And yeah. You will like this one a lot I think
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But where’s the full Atlantix video?! 🤪 Seriously though. Labyrinth looks bonkers. Very interesting device from Moog.
Started working on it after this was done sir!!
@@mylarmelodiesYES!! 😀Looking forward to it. I have one on pre-order here in Aus. Just waiting for store to get stock ......... now I want a Labyrinth as well 😕
Labyrantix. Hell, now there’s a thought
Mylar…. 🎉 PLZ DO A JAM WITH LABYRINTH AND QUADRANTID SWARM TOGETHER
Yes🎉
That is a good idea
This video should come with a stink face warning 😂🤘
Yes, now that's a thing, knew you'd be the beacon we were waiting for Alex. ace
Hey Mylar, great showcase :-) have you ever done a Studio-Tour Video? Love the "Mad Scientist Technician" Aesthetic of your frames and would be super cool to get an insight into how your Studio is set up and looks!
not yet but when i finally sort all the mess out!! 🤪
@@mylarmelodies ahh don't worry about the mess. I bet it just adds to the charm of the place :D
nice setup :) i have only half of it :))) labyrinth is interesting - sometime i'll buy it, but my moog-studio-trio is in another country right now... want to combine it all, with my grandfather toogether :)
Great demo!! Q: Do the selected bits and CV values remain the same when powering the unit off and on again? Same question for the Buffer. Are its contents retained after a power cycle? I looked in the manual and didn’t see an answer. Thanks!
Finally someone that knows how to use this thing 👏
Quite a proper amount of DFAMs.
I wasn't impressed with the Spectravox, but this one looks and sounds awesome.
Well this is a epic demo of a interesting machine. Hard sync.
good video jams
21:17 sick laughs! Lol. You're having a blast . Oof
Yeah it’s a fun one isn’t it?!
43:40 I love that stuff, i thought thats what this is made for.
Awesome education via some wonderful creativity!
How much talking into would it take to do a Mylar demo of the Zoia Eurobro? ;) I've used the Zoia since it came out and now have the Eurobro. Just from my own explorations, it seems like there is some serious potential for what it could do in the modular world (of course, for which it has been designed).
Anyway, just a thought (likely the first and last request you get for something like that - so feel free to ignore;)!
The definitive Labyrinth ❤
Looks awesome! It doesnt appear to have CV for Corrupt though, that would be nice!!!
These setup needs more moogs
Great video. Had to watch it with the volume off because the sounds were terrible, but those finger skillz. Oooof.
What a jam at 10:35!!
Now I’d definitely like to see what you do with a double knot as well!
Me too, Max defo got me curious to try one?!
Great demonstration but I dont know if I am sold on the Labyrinth. The only of these devices I've kept are my 2 DFAMs. I feel like it doesn't do any one thing so well that I must have it, and with cool stuff like the Atlantix and Befaco Oneiroi coming out I gotta be choosy.
For me it’s greatest strength is the sequencers - because you have two and can freestyle ideas/modulation infinitely. I’d make it the centrepiece of a jamming rig
@mylarmelodies yeah but wouldn't I just be better off maybe getting a couple more turing machines lol
Possibly! Obvs a Turing has less control and doesn’t have scale quantisation, but it may have more than you need
Always awesome to see you work these things!!! I just have a quick question though - would you recommend some kind of voltage converter for cv signals? I've been shooting off sequencers from my M32 to my Mini Moog and the octaves start to go out really quickly and I know it's related to voltage. Moog said they don't sell anything like it, but they do exist out there... I thought you be the man to ask for sure!!
Sounds like the Mini isn’t tracking pitch correctly over the full range? Not sure what the Mini should be able to handle but it may be a question of calibrating it?
@@mylarmelodies Thanks for the reply! Moog said that it is likely a discrepancy in volt per octave. I know the Moog Studio gear is 1v per, but I think the Mini Moog might be different?? If I'm firing off a sequence with smaller intervals pitch wise, it's okay. When there are greater leaps or a sequence over a larger pitch range, it starts to go out around the edges of the sequence I've programmed. I think it also depends on what key of the Mini Moog I hold down as that changes the sequence key too (apparently holding down a Mini Moog key is the only way to open the envelope to hear sound when patching into the external Osillarotr input).
Minimoog is definitely 1v/oct as well, but depending on how well it’s calibrated (as well as its innate range, I’m not sure what to expect depending on its age and best-case scenario) then yes you may find it’ll diverge in tuning the higher and lower you go. The solution would be to find out what the best case tuning capability of a Mini is, and then whether you can calibrate it (if needed). Same may go for the Mother too.
@@mylarmelodies The Mini Moog is from 2016… and could probably do with a calibration. Not sure if I should be the one doing it, depending how much is involved. I tech most of my own equipment. But I look at a Mini Moog and think “Don’t f&$@ this piece of genius up”!!😉.
Not even 10mins in, and this things sounds like a right filthy beast.
It’s really good ❤
Came straight here from loopops video where I was thinking this is made for you and I wouldn’t mind one too
You’re not wrong, it’s like a little distilled shot of all the funnest aspects of modular in one thing
@@mylarmelodies yeah I managed to get away from modular but this might bring me back, maybe just this and drum machine will do the job
I had a lot of fun with just that. Helps to have some other semi modulars to feed this but you may well have some?
Disappointed that the title of this video is not "Man with 10 Turing machines gifted 2 more".
Ah see, I’ve only got four turing machines.
Great video. Seems cool. Now that Moog fired its workers if I ever get this I’ll buy it used, as to not feed that greedy beast.
So that's basically my 2.5k eurorack system.
😬
Great video
Thanks m8!! Hope you good
Petition for [Spoilers:] from now on always have DivKid around for post-credits scenes
Splendid.😵💫
best one yet
🔥
The Moog Master 👏 👏 👏
Someone should bring the sequencers to eurorack
Hey Mylar… go and get your paycheck from Moog. You just sold the first 1000 units 😂😂😂
So, are the trigs and melody totally independent? It's like 4 Turing machines, 2 for each lane?
This thing looks dope
Luscious groves!
Interesting chat, thanks!
Thank you!!
They need to stop making these because I feel compelled to collect the whole set. I literally have a Spectravox sitting in a box unopened. I can get one of these for around $440 on company discount so it's hard to say no...collect the whole set 😑
Need. I only have a Mother 32. I need this and a couple of DFAMs.
Bro how did I miss this
Also liking some of the production upgrades, text on screen, bits of singing and humming, crack on!
34:42 what is HAPPENING
58:21 - How many Moogs do I ne.... YES!!!
Great video from the Moog's best hype man! I've run out out of space in my rack and money in my pocket.... I have the studio 3 set already, and don't use the mother 32 that much over the other 2 and I have a mavis in there too, maybe an M32 swap for the Labyrinth?
That sounds sensible to me! You have Mavis to be “trad” sounding (and be sequenced by it) as well as give you more elements/waveshapes to blend in to Labyrinth
@@mylarmelodies Reverb here I come!
34:42 Yooooo! 🤩🤯
Super dope! How do you mix all those moogs and FX? I am looking to create a moog set-up like this with some FX and maybe a sampler in there like a Digitakt 2.
In this setup a lowly Mackie CR1202 and a (not lowly) Eventide H90. Just a basic mixer with an aux send and return is all that’s needed!
@@mylarmelodies🤝
I just snapped one up and I’m new to even semi modular ,can SEQ 1 CV output connect to my behringer 101 and play the sequence from the labyrinth on the 101 ?
yep!
hello ! 😀😀 just when someone somewhere said "new digital boom" 😆😆😆
10:30 my god take my money
I dont know if you just have an intuitive sense of statistics or something but when I make music with randomized pitches like this it dont sound this good at all. Stuff like the metropolis or subharmonicon are more my speed(in spirit). Glad you're making good sounds with it tho.😢
I haven’t watched this yet so I apologize if any questions are redundant (I’m stuck in meetings all day, and all these videos dropped at once as someone else pointed out).
I’m concerned with how terrible Labyrinth sounded from all the early release videos, and it wasn’t clear how this differentiated itself from already existing products in most aspects, like Subharmonicon’s sequencing. Questions…
How well does this fit in with all the other semi-modular Moog synths?
Can you use the Labyrinth as a master controller/processor in that regard? Taking advantage of the sequencing and wave shaping for the other synths.
How long did it take before it started not sounding like ass, and is that effort realistic (or possible) for most people? This is probably the one I’m most concerned with, based on the videos I’ve seen prior to today. Like I can pick up my DFAM and jam on it with little effort after not having touched it in a while, for example.
I love your channel btw, a lot of my interests were fueled by your earlier videos. Thanks!
Thanks for this!! So regarding how well it fits - It was originally conceived to complement DFAM but of course stand in its own right. It’s like a complex west coast oscillator/Easel but with generative sequencers strapped to it. As I do in this vid, I like the exact idea of it being a master processor, the thing you have right up front, and use to sequence 2 other things, while it ingests other waveshapes externally and runs them through the filter or wavefolder (or both).
In terms of how long it took to get good sounds with - for me I’d say about an evening as I’m quite familiar with and predisposed to this sort of device, it’s basically what I like to make in a modular synth but in an off the shelf box, which is novel(!)
It’s not complicated at all so I don’t foresee it being a struggle to learn (the manual is fantastic, have a look) but as with any instrument that doesn’t mean it’ll magically give up all its secrets immediately - this is a happy accident machine so will reward time spent learning to keep it “in the pocket” of sounding best and to jam and perform it, and learn to move from one useful state to the next with it.
As you see in the “Heaven & Hell” section it’s interesting using the two paths as contrasting voices, and bouncing from one to the other with the Blend knob.
Anyway yeah for me it’s unquestionably one of the most potentially useful of all the 60HP moogs, since it’s the one you could use to power an improvised live show most significantly!
Hope you have fun if you get one anyhow!! 🙌
The other day a video of labirinth was apeared en the fed and i was thinkin .maybe mylar gonna do a video about it in no time. Hehehe thank you😊
I here for ya!
Do you just have your oscilloscope hooked up to your audio out? Thinking about getting an old one like this as a visual fun thing for the studio!
Yep, have it tapped into the VCA out. It’s fun to visualise
@@mylarmelodies would it work with line level out my desk?
Yep
Cool demo , but I actually got the east beast and I’ll get the West Pest from CRE8AUDIO too…. I got a beasty filter based and a verry quirky wave folding synth, both semi mod and I think quit cheaper…. Ok, Moog sounds moogly but maybe it’s a phylosophy…
At 10:40 pure magic. Great demo as always.
Oooohhffff
Unreal you sure know your way around this beauty. One question if i may be so bold. Why does the drum machine sound so thin and lifeless?
My Tr8s sounded way fatter
ha, just how it’s sound designed and mixed
@@mylarmelodies keep up the good work I am buying the Labyrinth and was put of with how complex some vids are saying it is but you explained it perfectly so it's back on the cards 😀
@@colinodea2407 Thanks! Yeah it’s really very simple! Just a case of getting your head round the signal flow. The manual is great and would be all you need if you get one someday 👍
@@mylarmelodies brilliant I will subscribe just now
Epic setup 🤓 #Analogbrothers