Anyone who was disappointed that they didn't get more of Youngeun or Bahi here is gonna love their Mvsk live stage. Those two are front and center for that thing, and it's awesome.
Yeseo was the biggest surprise for me, she got more lines than I expected and she ate them all UP and her stage presence was out of control. The song was largely dominated by Dayeon, Chae, and Yeseo line-wise and Xiaoting presence-wise (SO happy they are treating her as she deserves as a secondary center). Wasn't shocked Bahiyyih got the least lines, I assumed she'd be a sub-vocal, but was really surprised that for the most globally popular member, they gave her barely any solo shot focus, its almost like MNet wants to continue pretending like she is there when she has such a huge following, which is bizarre to me (she DID get a more fair amount of lines/time to shine in the b-side MVSK tho). Youngeun getting as little as she did was also surprising, but I do feel like even though their voices are very different, she and Dayeon (and to a lesser extent, Hikaru) share a very similar "vibe" and appeal, so when Dayeon was given a lot of rap lines, Youngeun kinda got pushed to a supporting role instead. Felt like they could've evened it out a bit to give her more but she did get the most lines in MVSK so it isn't like she is being ignored, just under-utilized in this song. Mashiro and Yujin were truly shining in the teasers so was surprised they didn't get as much as I anticipated but hopefully they'll be able to be given more lines in future title tracks. I understand why Chae gets the most singing lines but Mashiro is a very strong vocalist as well and can sub in there too, I think. Overall a very solid debut, the concept suits them perfectly, and I think shows a positive future for them as a group.
Yes-eo! (lol) --> from Girls Planet 999 in her Utopia mission, she was among like a lot of top ranks, but she stood out so much. Check it out if you haven't :)
wasn't too surprised that yeseo carried her role so well. she's been in the industry for a long time and busters is an incredibly underrated group. she's incredible!
This debut actually gave me massive Pristin vibes. At first I wasn’t really here for it (absolutely nothing against either group, I just wasn’t keen to begin with) but it’s starting to really really grow on me now. All the best to these girls!
The structure of the Chorus honestly reminds me a lot of Pristin's Wee Woo (maybe it's because Sungyeon from Pristin was on the production team for their debut), but the individual parts at the beginning of the chorus with a similar motif and then leads into a full group repetative part (Oh Oh Oh / Wee Woo Wee Woo) and in general their debut does remind me of Pristin
The MV and the song both looked similar to Pristins debut... I prefer Wee-oo We-oo.. not feeling this song tbh but maybe it will grow on me. I didn't feel like they made the girls stand out as well as Pristins debut did but their live performance improved in that aspect a bit.
Yeseo has a very distinct vocal tone. When you hear her voice, you’ll say “yes, that’s kep1er.” Youngeun really auditioned as a rapper-dancer and debuted as one of Kep1er’s main vocalists. As my bias, I’m hoping that she’ll also be able to showcase her rapping. She reminds me of Yena Xiaoting may not be center but people would naturally gravitate towards her.
I was actually surprised to see Xiaoting so present throughout the MV, since in the OOO choreography she was always at the back or not in centered positions. And also, because she was in the 9th position for the final lineup. I'm really glad they acknowledged her incredible charisma and stage presence, she's honestly born-to-be centre.
You're right. The members that didn't get many lines should have at least had something memorable, or maybe in the beginning of the video. Not like Bahi who wasn't in the first half at all and then just repeated two lines from the first part of the song. Also yes the sets are really clustered and kind of ugly. But they do make a little more sense when you realise they still haven't left Earth. I guess that's why they're in someone's room and outside, even though it has space elements. Which I think will continue as a story in their first comeback when they leave for Kep1er?
I feel you. I don't understand why so many kpop companies will not go fully there with bangers when it comes to girl groups. Like so often they add their little cutesy sections and it's just...odd.
@@andiemon2 I wouldn't call Dreamcatcher a flop since they entered the top 10 of best-selling groups of 2021, but I agree that korea doesn't support girl groups that go all-in if they aren't from a big company.
@@Dafne97 South Korea, or at least korean kpop fans are kinda strange... they only like popular stuff like Brands and In this case with companies and they also like cutie and badass but only if they are popular... they dont realy apretiate too much like underdog groups like we internationals do so... is weird. Is like saying: I dont like metellica if they are not from a big label, you know?
I completely agree that Dayeon and Yeseo ate this song. Both of them made their parts stand out and I am just so impressed. On the other hand, I am totally disappointed with the number of lines and centre time in MV Bahi and Hikaru got. I feel like instead of putting there this weirdly unfitting 'Oohh' part in the chorus they could just give more lines for one of them or even Mashiro. After all, Bahi was a second-place so she should at least got more centre time in MV if they didn't want to give her a lot of lines... I just hope the line distribution in their comeback will be better bc all of the girls should get their chance to shine.
"After all, Bahi was a second-place so she should at least got more center time" She has zero stage presence. During the entire show, she was practically unnoticed and the judges were in the end completely shocked by her rank. Everyone else had to do without a VIP brother.
@@TaiFei don't even start with that BS lol, bahiyyih didn't choose for her brother to be hueningkai and she worked hard to debut. And it may surprise you, but trust me people did not vote for her just cause she's hueningkai's sister, moas have their own things that they were focusing on. And bahiyyih is not the only one who had some privilege of already being known, there were ex trainees and even people already in groups on gp999. She deserves her spot in kep1er
Bahi is lucky to even have second place. It wasn't like she was more talented than a lot of the girls who got cut, she just happens to have a good following and a famous family.
I was also so curious about the chemistry between these girls when they were announced. But after watching their pre debut content, they get along very well. It’s been most interesting to see Bahiyyih interact with the girls because lord knows money never showed us any of that. I loved every part of this debut song except for the post-chorus. And this MV is sooo addicting. Dayeon surprised me the most actually, she has a really good flow. Yeseo just might be my bias though.
@Kyra Nimbalkar I get the feeling they never cared about the controversy. Other contestants revealed that Bahiyyih is actually very friendly, funny, and helpful behind the scenes and Mnet chose not to show it. She even was co-leader for a 3/4 of the missions she was a part of. Not to mention she was already classmates with Youngeun and Yeseo before GP999. From their point of view, Bahiyyih was another hard working contestant who happened to be popular and related to a famous idol, and their friend. I feel like this POV of how Bahiyyih might've been treated is kinda projecting what outside fans would feel in the same situation, if anything.
theres so many mixed emotions about this debut song. i on the other hand. absolutely loved it, it’s so catchy and they all look so beautiful. THEY ALL DEVOURED. i literally have it on repeat. im so happy they finally got to debut after it being pushed back.
The amount of slayage that Xiaoting gave with just from that intro ALONE!!!!!! This song gives me major Pristin vibes and a member of Pristin actually participated in writing the song. I also really love their B-side MVSK. It gives major WJSN Pantomime vibes.
@@syoongkook no official center yey but prob chaehyun as she ranked first and has been getting lots of center time. i was referring to chae and xiaoting getting lots of time in the center of the dance.
@@OldSchoolAnni Musically it felt very basic to me. I can’t quite put my finger on it but Wa Da Da lacked impact. It was too girly to have the power of something like Black Pink, Everglow or Itzy, but it wasn’t elegant and whimsical like iz*one, WJSN or Loona either. It’s like they tried to play it safe and wound up with a very empty feeling song.
competition in the gg side of kpop as of late is so freaking tight and brutal tbh. I wasn't expecting much of IVE's debut when it came out but I was genuinely blown away by how good it was cuz it was so different from all gg releases practically since 4th gen started. I think that's why this debut feels a little underwhelming for some people becuz ggs are dominating the kpop scene as of late with so many phenomenal groups and banger hits. the expectations for song quality have been higher than ever, it's hard to impress if there is any part of the execution and the production that's a little lacking.
Not a big fan of that switch of sound in the chorus, but overall, this was impressive and the rest was perfect. Though i wish they kept it bad-ass all the way through. Love the thumping bass.
the mv was probably filmed like two weeks after they were formed and the choreography is HARD it makes sense that they weren’t so in sync but you should definitely check out their stages.
I personally think that Dayeon and Xiaoting carried the song presence wise. They both gave so much star quality and you just can't help but anticipate what they do next on the screen. Its frustrating to see the line distribution tho, knowing how much talent the girls have. But what could we expect from wakeone, even their new boy group TO1 suffers from really bad line distribution, let's just hope it changes next comeback. To be frank I wasn't hiyyih's biggeat fan, and I feel sad to see her with one of the least lines with hikaru. Let's not take away that these girls just debuted, and still have a bright future ahead. They WILL improve, don't close them in boxes. But i will say Hiyyih stands out the most in MVSK, I was pleasantly surprised that i find myself looking for her in that performance.
I loved every single part of this mv and song except for the choreo of the postchorus. It felt stiff and awkward but thankfully they improved on it a bit in the final postchorus. The thing that I loved most in the mv was the teleportation effects and the camerawork during the breakdown. I highly recommend checking out their album. They have an incredibly good performance for mvsk already.
The choreography feels very cluttered and it doesn’t feel like they get enough room to perform their choreography. I think this is the downside of a quick debut. I’m actually glad the debut was postponed because i have no doubt that they feel at least a little bit more comfortable with the choreography then they would’ve. I also think the song would’ve been better if they cut the first post-chorus and introduced it after the second chorus.
@@apink930 yea i know, i like it but they could’ve developed it a bit more imo. I like the chorus, it’s really catchy, but the post-chorus feels so empty because of the, with lack of a better word, boring choreography. I love the girls, please don’t get me wrong this is absolutely not hate towards them. It’s rather a slight remark toward wake one/swing ent.
@@queriaz2730 i know i felt the songwriter couldn't come with up longer lyrics, literally half or maybe more than half the song was chorus related or repetitive, for choreo i like it, it's according to song, choreo isn't bad rather song is in a little parts, maybe changing producer or songwriter like they should hv more lines than saying same things again n again
I felt like Bahiyyh was treated like a backup dance for a while, she was most on the back or the edges of the choreography, the same with the lines, it took me a while to figure it out where she was singing. I hope they change that on the future because she has a beautiful voice and she's one of the most famous members (not to say the most famous).
We all know how she debuted. If it wasn't for some fandom getting behind her she would've gotten eliminated in the first or second round. Even producers doesn't want her. Her Popularity doesn't reflect on her skill. Sakura who was not skilled either at least knew how to play with camera. But bahhiyih can't give a decent facial expression to save her life considering she's so pretty.
@Praveen W. Still with the same brother excuse? Please at least try to be creative, at this point she most definitely has her own fanbase and it weird you say that considering ACTUAL mnet producers regretted not giving her screen because of the massive amounts of hate she got. People like you are so pathetic smh, she IS talented yet it’s so hard for people like you to actually admit that. Her fan cams wouldn’t be so high with views (far out passing her brothers btw) if she wasn’t appealing to watch.
@@aangisbestboi3984 I didn't mention “ brother” in my comment lol. Do I need to be more creative than that lol? I’m not giving an art exam btw. The truth will be the same no matter how you will fashioned it into a different narrative. Producers didn't give her screentime because she didn't stand out lol. Simple as that. A girl like youngeun who doesn't have standard visuals demands screentime with her talent. The twins demand screentime because of their humor and personality. If she is that talented as so many ASSUMES then where's her line and screentime? Did she ever be in the top 9 in the show except for the finale (where some fandom just mass voted her)? She wasn't even the judge's pick. Not to mention she never won any round in gp999. Did ever judges talk specifically ab her? Did the participants ever mention ab her except during rank announcement because they all know she will be mass voted anyway? Her fancam was very high for the obvious same reason. Almost 80% of the tweets and comments on TH-cam are filled with txt and bighit groups dp and username. Please accept the fact that she was pushed not because of her ability but some loyal deluded bighit fandom. Also, I'm in no way saying she isn't talented. In fact, everyone is talented in something but is she well trained and prepared? No. Does she deserve to debut? No. Do I hate her? No. Is it fair to other girls like ruiqi, yurina, sheon, myah? No. Is world fair? No.
@@praveenw.4393 yup that's why she's not granted enough screentime or lines: she can't execute anything. her facials look awkward during her parts so imagine they give her more. every other member stands out more than her. she doesn't have the talent so idk why her fanbase are confused as to why she's not given stuff.
@@praveenw.4393 Hater spotted. Hater triggered. Hater can't freaking move on from GP999 lmao 🤡 Bahiyyih will always be famous no matter where her fame came from. This is show business like what do you expect? What a salty hater hahaha... Yikes! 🤡
I feel like this isn’t a super impactful debut honestly. I don’t necessarily have any problems with it just didn’t really leave me with anything. That being said, the sound isn’t really for me anyways so it would have had to have been a really impactful song in order for me to love it. I feel like my main issue with it is that it feels like it is a bit disjointed and therefore lacks some momentum. I do feel like it could grow on me if I listened to it more but I really wished that they had done something more interesting with the space concept.
A couple people have mentioned it in comment replies, but wanted to mention that Pristin’s Shannon/Sungyeon worked on this song! So happy to see any Pristin members still active in the industry
the concept is all over the place and that worries me a bit because i'm not sure mnet has a clear vision for kep1er's career (unlike they obviously had for izone and x1). i like the musical direction - it has some of the wild energy that is signature for 4th gen but also a dash of whimsical and cute imagery. i think vocally they came together very well so i'm looking forward to them sharpening their chemistry and charisma!
I think the title track could be much better, with more new lines than feeling like half of the song is chorus Maybe changing producer is better for next cb, like i didn't like izone's debut song but feel in love with their cb song violeta
I'm mixed about the MV and the song quality and also if the debut wasn't too rushed (of course it was). I dislike the ''oh-oh-oh'' part, it just seems awkward to listen to but also the choreography of it is weird. The MV seems rough around the edges sometimes, some thing could be easily fixed if they recorded something second take or just didnt use a failed one. Maybe im overexagurating, but i hope the first comeback will really show the group potential, because this debut, in my opinion, didn't do the justice. (On the other hand i really love the styling and that teleporting-members sequence. Also the verses between the choruses are really cool)
loving all the yeseo appreciation i'm seeing, she's been my number 1 from the jump and i can say she ate up everything she was given !! so proud of her
some of the comments are underestimating chaehyun's talents TT like she's clearly a main vocal material but some of the comments are just not it, AND SHE'S ALSO A CENTER MATERIAL!!
When I heard O O O part in the mv teaser for the first time, I said "I hope it's just an outro cus it can ruined the whole perfect vibe" but unfortunately they did it in every chorus (I mean at least they could make it in 2nd and 3rd only) so it was a huge mistake but afterall I love every part of this song except thag. It was *really* good. I hope they won't trying to be cuter cus they are fcking good in other parts.
I actually love the Oh-oh-oh part, love how the two parts of the chorus don't quite fit smoothly but it feels like a burst of energy to me when they move into that second part of the chorus.
Patron here! I was so excited to see your reaction to the final lineup; even more excited now to see your reaction to the final episode! I also love this debut & im so proud of the girls; I pretty much agree with everything you said here, the choreo for the “oh oh oh” part was really weird & I wish that had been different, and I also agree with your opinions on the art direction of the video. I’m also hoping maybe next comeback we get more Bahiyyih, Mashiro, and Youngeun showing off their charms. But overall, for a debut I think this is very solid.
I personally really LOVED the O.O.O reference part! With the more upbeat cute bounciness it feels like a nice break from the more girl crush heavy sound the chorus has. It's like the first chorus part pumps you up, and the second chorus part is the chant to encourage you to move forward
I think this is a great song, but no instant "WOW" effect. The beat is great, the rap and vocals are powerful, great flow variation, the pre chorus and chorus are catchy, but I kinda missed that little spark that makes it feel like an instant hit. Very solid debut, their future looks bright!
i really appreciate how constructive and respectful your criticism is! I agree with almost everything you said, although the OOO choreo is growing on me fast lmao, I catch myself doing it in my room all the time whenever i’m bored and the song gets stuck in my head. As for the music video, I was honestly kind of disappointed, because from the amazing and creative teasers they were releasing I was really expecting more of a story line related to their planet concept, but I absolutely loved the song on first listen! i can’t wait to see what direction they take in their career, i have a feeling they’re going to be huge!
Bahiyyih got the Sakura effect being the sub-vocals in this debut, even being in 2nd place, the ranks was never important when making the group. But hopefully that'll change in the succeeding comebacks. :)
thank you for always a great overview pd! i always come here because i cannot explain some things about how i feel about it and you always deliver it very well~
Since their group is named Kep1er, a reference to Johannes Kepler, a well-known astronomer, and since their survival show is literally called Girls Planet... What I think they're trying to achieve with the sets for this MV is a reference to the earlier stages of what a scientist goes through in life to achieve space travel. I think they're trying to do a retro bedroom/house and the industrial look by saying these girls are in their younger stage where they are geeks of science and astronomy which makes sense cause it's their debut. The vibe just gives Back to the Future, a mix of science, retro, and industrial. It doesn't look that appealing tho imo.
I honestly think Kep1er should have gone with two title tracks with both Wa Da Da and MVSK. Wa Da Da gives me badass cutie vibes while MVSK gives me mysterious elegance vibes and damn Kep1er slays both concepts. Wa Da Da is the dance track I'll be bopping to, while MVSK is the song I'll be listening to and hoping for a stripped back acoustic version to (probably won't happen but the potential for this song is just amazing). This is my first time watching the review from this channel and that was really a satisfying watch. Your analysis for the MV is great. I agree in that based on the MV alone there's a lot to be desired which makes one really look forward to what Kep1er would become down the line. While the MV was well shot, I feel like it was rushed in a way. I watched the performance in the debut stage first before I saw the MV and I also agree with what you said about them not being in sync in the MV. I do think they improved on that in their debut stage performance. I honestly love the stage performance more than what they showed in the MV but for those who will see Kep1er for the first time through the MV, the Wa Da Da MV does its job catching the eye.
Bahiyyih was done dirty you're right. It's interesting because the members who bring in the most money were completely shut off (both Japanese members, Yujin and Bahiyyih), I really don't understand WakeOnes thought process.
Definitely the reaction I’ve been waiting for because i know PD is truly gonna look at things objectively! “That was great but not perfect” is exactly my thought due to the same reason “line distribution”. As you said you have 9 members, and even with less members, line distribution won’t ever be equal but for me it could’ve been fairer and the song would’ve been perfect for me! Or if they even gave the girls with less lines better screen time and focus the problem could’ve been solved but unfortunately they didn’t💔 and the oh oh part was a bit overwhelming at the first listen for me but with a few more listens I liked it more! And although i like it now, i still would’ve changed to something else with actual lines to give the vocal line more time to shine! thank good MVSK exists! It really made up for the bit of disappointment i got from the title and that’s why I like it more than the title! But it’s also not perfect because shiro didn’t get many lines there but i still think it’s better than the title because everyone truly shined in the song especially my girl Bahiyyih, who deserves much better in WA DA DA! and the song itself is executed much better than WA DA DA in my opinion and is really unique!(it could’ve been a better title song option for me) Despite everything I hope that wakeone will do better in the comeback because they literally have 9 ACES who deserve to Shine equally!!
i honestly like the heavy contrast in the oh-oh part. weird contrasts like that are one of my favorite things in kpop lol. i know its not for everybody, but i find it really fun.
Okay but you’re so right 😭 Dayeon and Yeseo OWNED that. I think their parts really made the song and performance so much better. Overall, I like the song, but I think I will like it even more as I listen and watch stages, I’m happy with it !
I think you'll really like their bside MVSK. I'd recommend you watching the live performance from their debut show after you listen to the album (or even the whole debut show if you want, I think it's on the m2 channel).
I didn't really notice Chaehyun much during the show, but her pink hair and vocals are 100%. Also after seeing Xiaoting do her Xiao-thing i genuinely cant imagine the group without her. Despite Youngeun and Hikaru not getting a lot of lines, they both ate what was given to them. I'm so happy to see my girl Yujin thriving outside of the 3d Square's dungeon. This slaps.
I adore Chaehyun with all my heart she was my pick since Gp99 but if she’s the center she’s not doing that great, my eyes were on Xiaoting the whole time. I don’t know if Chae has officially the center position.
I don't think she's the center but she could be the main visual and fotg. The fotg could change though based on their personality, maybe a member can be a variety queen and be the fotg instead.
I love that you pointed out Yeseo as a strong center!!! I was saying super early on that I thought Yeseo had killer center charisma and I really wanted her to debut because of that. That was actually one of the first times I've ever had a strong opinion about a center role, so I'm glad to see others get the same vibe from her.
the distribution Dayeon - 23.9 Chaehyun - 23.4 Yeseo - 20.0 Youngeun - 15.8 Mashiro - 15.5 Yujin - 15.3 Hikaru - 14.6 Xiaoting - 12.6 Bahiyyih - 8.6 I find it interesting how Yujin had so much presence even with ok lines, also bahiyyih was so underutilized. I also thought it was interesting how you said youngeun wasn't used to her best potential because I thought she got main vocal-like lines
Just look at the lines yeseo n dayeon got compared to youngeun, also if yujin had ok lines then youngeun too had ok lines not great, youngeun just got one pre chorus part similar to chaehyun which i don't think one of the best vocals of any grp gets in kpop
@@apink930 well like the other members she got a lot of the chorus parts and one of the o’s when you think about it her lines aligned with Chaehyun, Chaehyun just got more of them. I also think line distribution is not just about the quanity but also the quality, she got the vocal parts of the song which was really only the pre chorus, the rest was rapping or changing. Dayeon was treated as a main rapper and with a non vocal heavy song, I think she deserved to have so many parts. Yeseo idk abt.
@@108daytona6 if hikaru had difficulty to memorize song then i can understand or else few of dayeon rap could be hikaru's also last trio of xiaoting dayeon n mashiro in there rather than mashiro it could hv been hikaru also bahiyyih getting few yeseo lines if not chorus time than pre chorus parts
Wow Bahiyyih didn’t even have 10sec... this company is pure evil! She’s my bias and I felt so down because of this, thankfully MVSK distribution is better but that’s a bside, I can’t believe they neglected her so bad in the title track
I think bahiyyih line was understandable. Since she has a distinct voice that are different from the majority of the group (most has a rather cute voice) and half of them are better than her (skill/technically) in singing so of course they would get more line than her. I think for now we should stop complaining a lot and just accept it (I'm sorry it's getting annoying 🙏🏼). I don't think they intentionally give her less line it's just harder to find a line that suit her. Hiyyih line in mvsk was the prove. we can see in mvsk hiyyih was given more since the song suit her voice more However the screen time distribution on the MV are really bad. They didn't show her for almost first half of the MV. well the MV was bad in the first place. cause its almost all choreography theres no visual shot or storyline for all of the girls. You can clearly see the difference if you compare it to other MV from other gg with a lot of member like izone or twice
i love seeing praise for yeseo! she's been my girl since ep 1. i always leave ur vids gaining new appreciation for the song and mv. also i slightly disagree ab youngeun, one of my first reactions was damn her vocals are carrying so she shined for me. and she's not even in my bias line. i feel like she's their lead vocal, even tho they don't have positions (are positions going out of style? a lot of fourth gen groups dont have them)
I'll be in the minority. Thought the song was a lot of fun and mixed the girl crush/cute vibes well. To me its a pretty strong debut. The line distribution is decent and I think the reason people think it's bad has more to do with screentime. The girls have been through a lot even before debut (online hate, COVID, debut delayed). Of course nothing is perfect and I agree the O part of the choreo doesn't seem to fit but it's not surprising they'd try to incorporate hints of GP999 in the song/choreo. My bias is Mashiro and while I'd have loved to see and hear her more I knew she wasn't gonna be the star. Think some fans need to remember that who ranked #1, visuals and main dancers matter in kpop. Have the mini album on repeat. MVSK is an awesome Bside and hope they perform it on music shows alongside Wa Da Da. Also people saying IZ*ONE had an established sound from debut probably don't remember that La Vie En Rose was originally suppose to go to CLC. It wasn't specifically written for IZ*ONE, it's just the sound/style they ended up keeping. Comparing the 2 survival groups seems a bit unfair. I hope Kep1er maintain the balance between cute and girl crush cuz here's the thing I fans prefer GC and K fans seem to prefer cute concepts. Also Yujin is 25 while Yeseo is 16. Only way to make everyone happy is to balance both.
I agree about screen time vs line distribution! If you check out line distribution vids, it’s really even in comparison to most groups of this size, ESP for a debut song. The song grew on me but I was not disappointed after the first listen at all. I really agree with the comparison to Pristin from most comments. Def a niche that has a precedence so I don’t think it’s weird at all.
Loved this song from first listen, that doesnt happen to me often! Made me think of songs from sment, because of the chorus combining vocal heavy parts and noise music. It works really well!
i felt the creative confusion so much when the teasers were coming out, i had no idea what kidn of group they were and they had all kinds of outfits, but the actual MV was edited so epicly and i love the song!
I'm happy to see Kep1er debut after following GP999 religiously hahah 😂 But I'm a bit disappointed in the mv and that Yujin didn't get more prominent parts. Best part for me was easily Xiaoting, she SERVED!!
I have mixed opinions on their debut. I think it's a good debut, their staff didn't want to be too experimental or something and they wanted to play it safe. I wish they got more budget, i'm talking about both the song and the music video. The MV is not cheap of course, but in comparison to La Vie En Rose we can say that they put less budget. I agree with PD about the shots and the scenarios, they could've done much better. I didn't like the "industrial" type of scenes. About the song, I think it's not a bad song and I can see why many people like it, but it's not my cup of tea because I'm not too much of a fan of beat drops and noise music in general. The "oh oh oh" part doesn't sit right with me, it sounds and looks different from the rest of the song and the choreo, and I especially didn't like the choreo because they were not on beat and the movement with the hand looked weird (?). I LOVED Xiaoting's and Dayeon's part, they slayed this debut, even if Xiaoting didn't get so many lines. I would have prefered more lines by Youngeun, and I hope she will get to shine more in their first comeback. I'm a huge fan of Kep1er because I'm a cheshire so I followed Yujin in Girls Planet 999, falling in love with all the other girls too, but I didn't like this debut and I don't think it is as memorable as LVER, Dream Girls or Energetic. But who knows maybe it will grow on me, I really hope so.
While watching the mv I felt mixed emotions especially cuz I costantly had to be looking for some members for example bahiyiih. I think the line distribution and screentime was a little unfair for some members. But I am glad the company didnt do Xiaoting dirty,because I thougth they will give her few lines and not too much screentime for being a foreigner but thankfully that didnt happen. But unfornatelly it did happen with other of the members. And the coreography part of the "oh oh oh oh" is weird. There is a lot of options they could have done a heart motion of something. And it felt like a perfomance video not a mv tbh(maybe because I was expecting a storyline or a concept about space or some)
Agree with youngeun part maybe producers should make a vocally appealing song than instrumental, also if they didn't had oh oh part and had more new lines then it would have been great, oh oh part just feels like a completely new song
so far this is the best reaction and the best comments about the debut and everything I saw today... that's why I love PD so much btw, thank you for this and every video made until now! :)
Honestly I think this is Great for a debut song, it might not be everybody’s cup of tea but nobody can deny that it’s super catchy. Having a catchy song is great for debut!
I don’t think it’s catchy at all. Very forgettable. Wish the girls the best cuz I am a big fan but honestly this one easily one of the weakest debut song of a gen 4 group.
I don’t find this song catchy. I have listened 3 times at this point and there isn’t anything that got stuck in my head. And I am a fan of noise music. But I seriously see no ambition here. Where was this going? I’m clueless.
I feel like their popularity would skyrocket if they took on more of the MVSK vibe and created more sounds like that bc MVSK is the best song on the track. Its so different and cool (like chic) and their voices all sounded amazing!!! MVSK should've been the title! Prove me wrong
Nah I'm absolutely in love with this song!! The chorus reminds me of Fallin' by Monsta X which is one of my all time favorite songs and I'm super here for it! The girls went OFF
As a producer if you decide to go for "girl crush" vibe then *stick* to it, this was a mix of a song but not a great one. I dont think it was bad but it could've been way better. I guess Iz*one left me thinking mnet was going to level up but who knows maybe in the future.
Also I'm using "girl crush" very lightly since I think concepts are on a spectrum and don't have to be a copy of past songs. I think they're definitely mixing some teen crush here and there too but I just wished they would go full out 100% with whatever the concept is instead of different vibez. *Either way they're gonna successful so pleasing my taste won't make a difference in their career lol*
Right. I think the song is very good but this post-chorus is very odd and weird at first. I also think the choreo is stange in that part. The bside MVSK (Youngeun centered song) and their "intro" are very catchy. I'm looking forward for their future and very much agree with your opinion.
I will never regret subscribing you for years. You always get the points right. I am totally disappointed with the line distribution. WakeOne failed to utilize some members' talents. Especially bahiyyih. It could've been her shining moment, disproving all the hate she got. And she is the most famous member. The company should've known that. A lot of fans were disappointed and stopped streaming after the mv release. The group can achieve so much if all the fans are fed
@@nahqiv She's gotten literally NOTHING but hate even when she was doing stable and hella consistent on GP999, and now that they're debuting their response is to... make sure she can't prove anyone right, stuff her in the back, and not let her do anything. Of course she probably is fucking frazzled. When they did the AMA thing on Twitter, literally a bunch of the people who got replies to her pretending to be nice were bahiyyih antis who were literally making fun of her, which she didn't realize at the time. It's so bad the producer had to beg people to not harass her and this isn't helping her confidence at all.
i am pleasantly suprised by the amount of lines Xiaoting has (considering she's not a native korean speaker) but the song is giving me pristin vibes tho!!
Anyone who was disappointed that they didn't get more of Youngeun or Bahi here is gonna love their Mvsk live stage. Those two are front and center for that thing, and it's awesome.
I AGREE
exactlyyyy
Xiaoting looked like the center of MVSK along with Chaehyun
I'm happy members that didn't stand out in Wa da da got more lines
@@finnrogue9435 yes but bahi did stand out a lot in mvsk, more than I expected
Yeseo was the biggest surprise for me, she got more lines than I expected and she ate them all UP and her stage presence was out of control. The song was largely dominated by Dayeon, Chae, and Yeseo line-wise and Xiaoting presence-wise (SO happy they are treating her as she deserves as a secondary center). Wasn't shocked Bahiyyih got the least lines, I assumed she'd be a sub-vocal, but was really surprised that for the most globally popular member, they gave her barely any solo shot focus, its almost like MNet wants to continue pretending like she is there when she has such a huge following, which is bizarre to me (she DID get a more fair amount of lines/time to shine in the b-side MVSK tho). Youngeun getting as little as she did was also surprising, but I do feel like even though their voices are very different, she and Dayeon (and to a lesser extent, Hikaru) share a very similar "vibe" and appeal, so when Dayeon was given a lot of rap lines, Youngeun kinda got pushed to a supporting role instead. Felt like they could've evened it out a bit to give her more but she did get the most lines in MVSK so it isn't like she is being ignored, just under-utilized in this song. Mashiro and Yujin were truly shining in the teasers so was surprised they didn't get as much as I anticipated but hopefully they'll be able to be given more lines in future title tracks. I understand why Chae gets the most singing lines but Mashiro is a very strong vocalist as well and can sub in there too, I think. Overall a very solid debut, the concept suits them perfectly, and I think shows a positive future for them as a group.
Yes-eo! (lol) --> from Girls Planet 999 in her Utopia mission, she was among like a lot of top ranks, but she stood out so much. Check it out if you haven't :)
Yea
loving my queen Yeseo so happy for her
well yeseo is a actually one of the most experienced as idold alongside with yujin both already debuted before this
wasn't too surprised that yeseo carried her role so well. she's been in the industry for a long time and busters is an incredibly underrated group. she's incredible!
This debut actually gave me massive Pristin vibes.
At first I wasn’t really here for it (absolutely nothing against either group, I just wasn’t keen to begin with) but it’s starting to really really grow on me now. All the best to these girls!
I thought so too, Sungyeon/Shannon worked on it, so it might be that
Shannon one of the producers was Seungyeon that's why
@@cristinadewindt1605 ohh that makes so much sense!
major wee woo vibes
I thought I was the only who thought this lol
The structure of the Chorus honestly reminds me a lot of Pristin's Wee Woo (maybe it's because Sungyeon from Pristin was on the production team for their debut), but the individual parts at the beginning of the chorus with a similar motif and then leads into a full group repetative part (Oh Oh Oh / Wee Woo Wee Woo) and in general their debut does remind me of Pristin
I definitely got pristin vibes, and got so sad
@@jellyjellywowie same bestie
The MV and the song both looked similar to Pristins debut... I prefer Wee-oo We-oo.. not feeling this song tbh but maybe it will grow on me. I didn't feel like they made the girls stand out as well as Pristins debut did but their live performance improved in that aspect a bit.
@@lazuardawn they deserve much more
that was literally my first thought when i heard it, it makes sense considering the producers
Yeseo has a very distinct vocal tone. When you hear her voice, you’ll say “yes, that’s kep1er.”
Youngeun really auditioned as a rapper-dancer and debuted as one of Kep1er’s main vocalists.
As my bias, I’m hoping that she’ll also be able to showcase her rapping. She reminds me of Yena
Xiaoting may not be center but people would naturally gravitate towards her.
For real, she's so much like Choi Yena! I miss her sm, it's great news that she'll be debuting as a soloist on Jan 17.
Youngeun has the most lines in MVSK and has very Main Vocal-like distribution!
Line distribution made me so sad... Yujin, Bahiyyih and Hikaru deserved so much more
well bahi cant sing so… makes sense
@@ultraparanioa that’s your opinion. You don’t really have to state it as fact ‘coz it’s not.
@@ultraparanioa nobody cares what u think, she slays what do u di?
@@ultraparanioa obsessed much
@@ultraparanioa if she couldn't then she wouldn't be more successful than you. Now go cry in front of your phone while she's out here being talented
I was actually surprised to see Xiaoting so present throughout the MV, since in the OOO choreography she was always at the back or not in centered positions. And also, because she was in the 9th position for the final lineup. I'm really glad they acknowledged her incredible charisma and stage presence, she's honestly born-to-be centre.
You're right. The members that didn't get many lines should have at least had something memorable, or maybe in the beginning of the video. Not like Bahi who wasn't in the first half at all and then just repeated two lines from the first part of the song.
Also yes the sets are really clustered and kind of ugly. But they do make a little more sense when you realise they still haven't left Earth. I guess that's why they're in someone's room and outside, even though it has space elements. Which I think will continue as a story in their first comeback when they leave for Kep1er?
I feel you.
I don't understand why so many kpop companies will not go fully there with bangers when it comes to girl groups.
Like so often they add their little cutesy sections and it's just...odd.
Oh my god, yes! I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaate it.
it's honestly frustrating, all that build up and all those powerful moves just for the point dance to be extremely lackluster.
Because when the company went all out with the examples dreamcatcher and pixy, they flop in south korea
It's just a money talk
@@andiemon2 I wouldn't call Dreamcatcher a flop since they entered the top 10 of best-selling groups of 2021, but I agree that korea doesn't support girl groups that go all-in if they aren't from a big company.
@@Dafne97 South Korea, or at least korean kpop fans are kinda strange... they only like popular stuff like Brands and In this case with companies and they also like cutie and badass but only if they are popular... they dont realy apretiate too much like underdog groups like we internationals do so... is weird. Is like saying: I dont like metellica if they are not from a big label, you know?
I completely agree that Dayeon and Yeseo ate this song. Both of them made their parts stand out and I am just so impressed. On the other hand, I am totally disappointed with the number of lines and centre time in MV Bahi and Hikaru got. I feel like instead of putting there this weirdly unfitting 'Oohh' part in the chorus they could just give more lines for one of them or even Mashiro. After all, Bahi was a second-place so she should at least got more centre time in MV if they didn't want to give her a lot of lines... I just hope the line distribution in their comeback will be better bc all of the girls should get their chance to shine.
Mashiro had decent actual lines and she stood out a lot, I think what she had was fine
"After all, Bahi was a second-place so she should at least got more center time" She has zero stage presence. During the entire show, she was practically unnoticed and the judges were in the end completely shocked by her rank. Everyone else had to do without a VIP brother.
@@TaiFei don't even start with that BS lol, bahiyyih didn't choose for her brother to be hueningkai and she worked hard to debut. And it may surprise you, but trust me people did not vote for her just cause she's hueningkai's sister, moas have their own things that they were focusing on. And bahiyyih is not the only one who had some privilege of already being known, there were ex trainees and even people already in groups on gp999. She deserves her spot in kep1er
Bahi is lucky to even have second place. It wasn't like she was more talented than a lot of the girls who got cut, she just happens to have a good following and a famous family.
@@TaiFei cope
I was also so curious about the chemistry between these girls when they were announced. But after watching their pre debut content, they get along very well. It’s been most interesting to see Bahiyyih interact with the girls because lord knows money never showed us any of that. I loved every part of this debut song except for the post-chorus. And this MV is sooo addicting. Dayeon surprised me the most actually, she has a really good flow. Yeseo just might be my bias though.
@Kyra Nimbalkar I get the feeling they never cared about the controversy. Other contestants revealed that Bahiyyih is actually very friendly, funny, and helpful behind the scenes and Mnet chose not to show it. She even was co-leader for a 3/4 of the missions she was a part of. Not to mention she was already classmates with Youngeun and Yeseo before GP999. From their point of view, Bahiyyih was another hard working contestant who happened to be popular and related to a famous idol, and their friend.
I feel like this POV of how Bahiyyih might've been treated is kinda projecting what outside fans would feel in the same situation, if anything.
theres so many mixed emotions about this debut song. i on the other hand. absolutely loved it, it’s so catchy and they all look so beautiful. THEY ALL DEVOURED. i literally have it on repeat. im so happy they finally got to debut after it being pushed back.
same! i wish the made the choreo better tho especially the post chorus
@@kitsnwjns pretty sure the post chorus choreo was made to be tiktok friendly for dance challenges.
@@kitsnwjns the post chorus is the good part.
I love this song so much
@@barhorovitz2134 SAME
WA DA DA wasn’t my favorite (a bit disappointed), but the b-side MVSK is SO GOOD! You have to check out the performance from their debut show.
no literally i had this playing nonstop
completely agree, wa da da was just not it for me, MVSK is god-tier
The amount of slayage that Xiaoting gave with just from that intro ALONE!!!!!! This song gives me major Pristin vibes and a member of Pristin actually participated in writing the song. I also really love their B-side MVSK. It gives major WJSN Pantomime vibes.
Was waiting for this LOL
Youngeun is literally a goddess wbk, also their song MVSK is soooooo good (Main Vocal Youngeun and center Chae+Xiaoting >)
2 centers?
@@syoongkook no official center yey but prob chaehyun as she ranked first and has been getting lots of center time. i was referring to chae and xiaoting getting lots of time in the center of the dance.
@@syoongkook no official position yet but by the debut clips and photoshoots
chaehyun and xiaoting seems like they share the center position
@@rosymoon8144 I’m glad! Two centers is so cool! Both excels in their respective talents (singing and dancing)
You should react to the *BRAND NEW YG SUBSIDIARY GIRL GROUP called XGALX* th-cam.com/video/iS-P-_FCe3g/w-d-xo.html *BLACKPINK JUNIOR'S is coming*
I just think the concept for MVSK fits them so much better than WA DA DA.
Man everyone keeps saying this! I gotta check it out soon…
It should’ve been the title track it’s a much better song imo
@@formoftherapy Please do the reaction, I beg you! 👏🏼
@@siennahartle9069 Agreed, I felt like WA DA DA felt a little outdated maybe?
@@OldSchoolAnni Musically it felt very basic to me. I can’t quite put my finger on it but Wa Da Da lacked impact. It was too girly to have the power of something like Black Pink, Everglow or Itzy, but it wasn’t elegant and whimsical like iz*one, WJSN or Loona either. It’s like they tried to play it safe and wound up with a very empty feeling song.
competition in the gg side of kpop as of late is so freaking tight and brutal tbh. I wasn't expecting much of IVE's debut when it came out but I was genuinely blown away by how good it was cuz it was so different from all gg releases practically since 4th gen started. I think that's why this debut feels a little underwhelming for some people becuz ggs are dominating the kpop scene as of late with so many phenomenal groups and banger hits. the expectations for song quality have been higher than ever, it's hard to impress if there is any part of the execution and the production that's a little lacking.
I WAS LITERALLY CAMPING ON THIS CHANNEL WAITING FOR THIS REACTION LETS GOOOO
SAme
YUJIN line where okay but her stage presence it’s even better, she slayed
I really hope You can react to the MVSK as well!! Not only the song itself but the version from the debut show with choreo and all
Yeeeesssss
Upppp
Yeeeees
I think PD would only watch it on patreon
they don't upload any reaction other than mvs and album listening party here on youtube, they probably upload those on patreon
Not a big fan of that switch of sound in the chorus, but overall, this was impressive and the rest was perfect.
Though i wish they kept it bad-ass all the way through. Love the thumping bass.
I’m sorry but the blond girl who rapped the first line WHO IS THAT BISHHHH GURRL SHE STIOLE MY HEARTTT also this group reminds me of pristin lol
It's Dayeon, I also thought she shined in the song 😁
THANK YOU. YESEO IS EATING ALL OF THIS UP AND SHE'S SO HAPPY. Look at the debut showcase if you can, her smile is contagious.
They can give Xiaoting 0 lines and she will still be a main star. She literally grabs my attention and gives me “I’m the main character” vibes.
YESSS!!!!
I literally cried by the time I got to the second chorus. And I haven’t cried watching a debut/comeback in YEARS
Happy tears or did you hate it so much? 😅
@@Hannahdtrt i'd say tears of a proud mother
@@aaiyuanaa4297 okay that’s a relief ☺️ I was worried at first haha😅 let’s support Kep1er💜💜
the mv was probably filmed like two weeks after they were formed and the choreography is HARD it makes sense that they weren’t so in sync but you should definitely check out their stages.
I personally think that Dayeon and Xiaoting carried the song presence wise. They both gave so much star quality and you just can't help but anticipate what they do next on the screen. Its frustrating to see the line distribution tho, knowing how much talent the girls have. But what could we expect from wakeone, even their new boy group TO1 suffers from really bad line distribution, let's just hope it changes next comeback.
To be frank I wasn't hiyyih's biggeat fan, and I feel sad to see her with one of the least lines with hikaru. Let's not take away that these girls just debuted, and still have a bright future ahead. They WILL improve, don't close them in boxes. But i will say Hiyyih stands out the most in MVSK, I was pleasantly surprised that i find myself looking for her in that performance.
I loved every single part of this mv and song except for the choreo of the postchorus. It felt stiff and awkward but thankfully they improved on it a bit in the final postchorus. The thing that I loved most in the mv was the teleportation effects and the camerawork during the breakdown. I highly recommend checking out their album. They have an incredibly good performance for mvsk already.
YESSS
The choreography feels very cluttered and it doesn’t feel like they get enough room to perform their choreography. I think this is the downside of a quick debut. I’m actually glad the debut was postponed because i have no doubt that they feel at least a little bit more comfortable with the choreography then they would’ve. I also think the song would’ve been better if they cut the first post-chorus and introduced it after the second chorus.
The choreography seems to be just for a trend in Tik tok imo
@@nathaliiie16 especially the post-chorus, but also the chorus. It’s a bit too simple idk how else to describe it
@@queriaz2730 simple but energetic, many chorus r simple so that they can be copied and followed by many, there r plenty of amazing simple chorus
@@apink930 yea i know, i like it but they could’ve developed it a bit more imo. I like the chorus, it’s really catchy, but the post-chorus feels so empty because of the, with lack of a better word, boring choreography. I love the girls, please don’t get me wrong this is absolutely not hate towards them. It’s rather a slight remark toward wake one/swing ent.
@@queriaz2730 i know i felt the songwriter couldn't come with up longer lyrics, literally half or maybe more than half the song was chorus related or repetitive, for choreo i like it, it's according to song, choreo isn't bad rather song is in a little parts, maybe changing producer or songwriter like they should hv more lines than saying same things again n again
Didn't actually enjoyed the song, but I'm really proud of the girls, hope they get better line distribution as well
Same I was hooked in the intro then I was lost at the chorus
@@molly8070 true, the verse up to prechorus is great but the chorus did feel lacking when comparing
Finally! Same so disappointed in the chorus......
I felt like Bahiyyh was treated like a backup dance for a while, she was most on the back or the edges of the choreography, the same with the lines, it took me a while to figure it out where she was singing. I hope they change that on the future because she has a beautiful voice and she's one of the most famous members (not to say the most famous).
We all know how she debuted. If it wasn't for some fandom getting behind her she would've gotten eliminated in the first or second round. Even producers doesn't want her. Her Popularity doesn't reflect on her skill. Sakura who was not skilled either at least knew how to play with camera. But bahhiyih can't give a decent facial expression to save her life considering she's so pretty.
@Praveen W. Still with the same brother excuse? Please at least try to be creative, at this point she most definitely has her own fanbase and it weird you say that considering ACTUAL mnet producers regretted not giving her screen because of the massive amounts of hate she got. People like you are so pathetic smh, she IS talented yet it’s so hard for people like you to actually admit that. Her fan cams wouldn’t be so high with views (far out passing her brothers btw) if she wasn’t appealing to watch.
@@aangisbestboi3984 I didn't mention “ brother” in my comment lol. Do I need to be more creative than that lol?
I’m not giving an art exam btw. The truth will be the same no matter how you will fashioned it into a different narrative. Producers didn't give her screentime because she didn't stand out lol. Simple as that. A girl like youngeun who doesn't have standard visuals demands screentime with her talent. The twins demand screentime because of their humor and personality. If she is that talented as so many ASSUMES then where's her line and screentime? Did she ever be in the top 9 in the show except for the finale (where some fandom just mass voted her)? She wasn't even the judge's pick. Not to mention she never won any round in gp999. Did ever judges talk specifically ab her? Did the participants ever mention ab her except during rank announcement because they all know she will be mass voted anyway? Her fancam was very high for the obvious same reason. Almost 80% of the tweets and comments on TH-cam are filled with txt and bighit groups dp and username. Please accept the fact that she was pushed not because of her ability but some loyal deluded bighit fandom.
Also, I'm in no way saying she isn't talented. In fact, everyone is talented in something but is she well trained and prepared? No. Does she deserve to debut? No. Do I hate her? No. Is it fair to other girls like ruiqi, yurina, sheon, myah? No. Is world fair? No.
@@praveenw.4393 yup that's why she's not granted enough screentime or lines: she can't execute anything. her facials look awkward during her parts so imagine they give her more. every other member stands out more than her. she doesn't have the talent so idk why her fanbase are confused as to why she's not given stuff.
@@praveenw.4393 Hater spotted. Hater triggered. Hater can't freaking move on from GP999 lmao 🤡
Bahiyyih will always be famous no matter where her fame came from. This is show business like what do you expect? What a salty hater hahaha... Yikes! 🤡
I feel like this isn’t a super impactful debut honestly. I don’t necessarily have any problems with it just didn’t really leave me with anything. That being said, the sound isn’t really for me anyways so it would have had to have been a really impactful song in order for me to love it. I feel like my main issue with it is that it feels like it is a bit disjointed and therefore lacks some momentum. I do feel like it could grow on me if I listened to it more but I really wished that they had done something more interesting with the space concept.
if you didnt watch it, i recommend you to watch this stage! th-cam.com/video/3koOE2MN1gw/w-d-xo.html
mvsk is really a great song pls check it out!
A couple people have mentioned it in comment replies, but wanted to mention that Pristin’s Shannon/Sungyeon worked on this song! So happy to see any Pristin members still active in the industry
Would be sooo awesome if you reacted to the MVSK stage! It was awesome! This whole debut has been so awesome so far.
Im so happy for kep1er girls debut . This is amazing Every thing I wanted for Kep1er girl to have . Mv , look's, editing , vocals . This is iconic
the concept is all over the place and that worries me a bit because i'm not sure mnet has a clear vision for kep1er's career (unlike they obviously had for izone and x1). i like the musical direction - it has some of the wild energy that is signature for 4th gen but also a dash of whimsical and cute imagery. i think vocally they came together very well so i'm looking forward to them sharpening their chemistry and charisma!
I think the title track could be much better, with more new lines than feeling like half of the song is chorus
Maybe changing producer is better for next cb, like i didn't like izone's debut song but feel in love with their cb song violeta
I was FLOORED by Dayeon, that caught me so off guard, my brain was having trouble processing that she could rap like that. She KILLED those parts
I'm mixed about the MV and the song quality and also if the debut wasn't too rushed (of course it was). I dislike the ''oh-oh-oh'' part, it just seems awkward to listen to but also the choreography of it is weird. The MV seems rough around the edges sometimes, some thing could be easily fixed if they recorded something second take or just didnt use a failed one. Maybe im overexagurating, but i hope the first comeback will really show the group potential, because this debut, in my opinion, didn't do the justice.
(On the other hand i really love the styling and that teleporting-members sequence. Also the verses between the choruses are really cool)
loving all the yeseo appreciation i'm seeing, she's been my number 1 from the jump and i can say she ate up everything she was given !! so proud of her
some of the comments are underestimating chaehyun's talents TT like she's clearly a main vocal material but some of the comments are just not it, AND SHE'S ALSO A CENTER MATERIAL!!
nope
Yass cheahyun is a center
youngeun and bahiyyih ATE AND DELIVERED in mvsk, go watch their debut show! the two of them + xiaoting shined on mvsk
When I heard O O O part in the mv teaser for the first time, I said "I hope it's just an outro cus it can ruined the whole perfect vibe" but unfortunately they did it in every chorus (I mean at least they could make it in 2nd and 3rd only) so it was a huge mistake but afterall I love every part of this song except thag. It was *really* good. I hope they won't trying to be cuter cus they are fcking good in other parts.
completely agree with you!!
@@user-wu2we3vq9r Thanks! I'm glad to hear this Let's wait for the next comebacks too
I have to skip them to just enjoy hearing the whole song😵💫
@@phurrettheferret9116 Same :'(
@chardel solania Yes! I absolutely love it (MVSK is really good too). So I'm waiting for their next releases.
I actually love the Oh-oh-oh part, love how the two parts of the chorus don't quite fit smoothly but it feels like a burst of energy to me when they move into that second part of the chorus.
Xiaoting is just a VISUAL GODDESS, OMG. Her first lines on the song made everything worth it for me.
Patron here! I was so excited to see your reaction to the final lineup; even more excited now to see your reaction to the final episode! I also love this debut & im so proud of the girls; I pretty much agree with everything you said here, the choreo for the “oh oh oh” part was really weird & I wish that had been different, and I also agree with your opinions on the art direction of the video. I’m also hoping maybe next comeback we get more Bahiyyih, Mashiro, and Youngeun showing off their charms. But overall, for a debut I think this is very solid.
I personally really LOVED the O.O.O reference part! With the more upbeat cute bounciness it feels like a nice break from the more girl crush heavy sound the chorus has. It's like the first chorus part pumps you up, and the second chorus part is the chant to encourage you to move forward
Exactly!
That Yeseo's part always give me goosebumps, EVERY SINGLE TIME. No matter how many time I replay.
I think this is a great song, but no instant "WOW" effect. The beat is great, the rap and vocals are powerful, great flow variation, the pre chorus and chorus are catchy, but I kinda missed that little spark that makes it feel like an instant hit. Very solid debut, their future looks bright!
If any other group did this song, the public would not like it.
The rap are not great. For other, I agree.
i really appreciate how constructive and respectful your criticism is! I agree with almost everything you said, although the OOO choreo is growing on me fast lmao, I catch myself doing it in my room all the time whenever i’m bored and the song gets stuck in my head. As for the music video, I was honestly kind of disappointed, because from the amazing and creative teasers they were releasing I was really expecting more of a story line related to their planet concept, but I absolutely loved the song on first listen! i can’t wait to see what direction they take in their career, i have a feeling they’re going to be huge!
Bahiyyih got the Sakura effect being the sub-vocals in this debut, even being in 2nd place, the ranks was never important when making the group. But hopefully that'll change in the succeeding comebacks. :)
thank you for always a great overview pd! i always come here because i cannot explain some things about how i feel about it and you always deliver it very well~
Since their group is named Kep1er, a reference to Johannes Kepler, a well-known astronomer, and since their survival show is literally called Girls Planet... What I think they're trying to achieve with the sets for this MV is a reference to the earlier stages of what a scientist goes through in life to achieve space travel.
I think they're trying to do a retro bedroom/house and the industrial look by saying these girls are in their younger stage where they are geeks of science and astronomy which makes sense cause it's their debut. The vibe just gives Back to the Future, a mix of science, retro, and industrial. It doesn't look that appealing tho imo.
WAIT THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE WTF ......
AND MAYBE LATER IN THEIR CBS THDY WILL HAVE AN ACTUAL SPACE CONCEPT
This would be such a dope approach I hope they build on it with future comebacks and prove u right!!!
@@yerism *manifesting*
I honestly think Kep1er should have gone with two title tracks with both Wa Da Da and MVSK. Wa Da Da gives me badass cutie vibes while MVSK gives me mysterious elegance vibes and damn Kep1er slays both concepts. Wa Da Da is the dance track I'll be bopping to, while MVSK is the song I'll be listening to and hoping for a stripped back acoustic version to (probably won't happen but the potential for this song is just amazing).
This is my first time watching the review from this channel and that was really a satisfying watch. Your analysis for the MV is great. I agree in that based on the MV alone there's a lot to be desired which makes one really look forward to what Kep1er would become down the line. While the MV was well shot, I feel like it was rushed in a way. I watched the performance in the debut stage first before I saw the MV and I also agree with what you said about them not being in sync in the MV. I do think they improved on that in their debut stage performance. I honestly love the stage performance more than what they showed in the MV but for those who will see Kep1er for the first time through the MV, the Wa Da Da MV does its job catching the eye.
This is so true that Yeseo and Yujin voice compliment each other really well. They sound the same if you're not a fan.
Bahiyyih was done dirty you're right. It's interesting because the members who bring in the most money were completely shut off (both Japanese members, Yujin and Bahiyyih), I really don't understand WakeOnes thought process.
As an ex Busters´ stan i´m so happy that Yeseo is having this oportunity! I really hope everyone can appreciate her talent !!
Let´s cheer for Kep1er
Definitely the reaction I’ve been waiting for because i know PD is truly gonna look at things objectively! “That was great but not perfect” is exactly my thought due to the same reason “line distribution”. As you said you have 9 members, and even with less members, line distribution won’t ever be equal but for me it could’ve been fairer and the song would’ve been perfect for me! Or if they even gave the girls with less lines better screen time and focus the problem could’ve been solved but unfortunately they didn’t💔 and the oh oh part was a bit overwhelming at the first listen for me but with a few more listens I liked it more! And although i like it now, i still would’ve changed to something else with actual lines to give the vocal line more time to shine! thank good MVSK exists! It really made up for the bit of disappointment i got from the title and that’s why I like it more than the title! But it’s also not perfect because shiro didn’t get many lines there but i still think it’s better than the title because everyone truly shined in the song especially my girl Bahiyyih, who deserves much better in WA DA DA! and the song itself is executed much better than WA DA DA in my opinion and is really unique!(it could’ve been a better title song option for me) Despite everything I hope that wakeone will do better in the comeback because they literally have 9 ACES who deserve to Shine equally!!
All I’m saying is if seventeen can have equal line distribution then so can most other idols groups 🤷🏽♀️
i honestly like the heavy contrast in the oh-oh part. weird contrasts like that are one of my favorite things in kpop lol. i know its not for everybody, but i find it really fun.
the only thing i don't like about this is that bahiyyih didnt get enough lines or screentime but man i'm in love with this.
The only thing that needed to be really changed is the post chorus, as it just felt like an excuse to give members ‘more lines’
Honestly cause it feels strange
Okay but you’re so right 😭 Dayeon and Yeseo OWNED that. I think their parts really made the song and performance so much better. Overall, I like the song, but I think I will like it even more as I listen and watch stages, I’m happy with it !
I think you'll really like their bside MVSK. I'd recommend you watching the live performance from their debut show after you listen to the album (or even the whole debut show if you want, I think it's on the m2 channel).
“nobody becomes synchronization machines right out the gate” true except loona tho! they’ve never missed
Loona has some killer songwriters in their wheelhouse.
I didn't really notice Chaehyun much during the show, but her pink hair and vocals are 100%. Also after seeing Xiaoting do her Xiao-thing i genuinely cant imagine the group without her. Despite Youngeun and Hikaru not getting a lot of lines, they both ate what was given to them. I'm so happy to see my girl Yujin thriving outside of the 3d Square's dungeon. This slaps.
I adore Chaehyun with all my heart she was my pick since Gp99 but if she’s the center she’s not doing that great, my eyes were on Xiaoting the whole time. I don’t know if Chae has officially the center position.
i don't think they have offcial postions
They don't have assigned position except leader and co-leader. They said it on their press conference
Xiaoting steals the spotlight everytime 💕
My eyes go on chaehyun the whole time tho. Maybe it's just ur eyes 😌
I don't think she's the center but she could be the main visual and fotg. The fotg could change though based on their personality, maybe a member can be a variety queen and be the fotg instead.
I love that you pointed out Yeseo as a strong center!!! I was saying super early on that I thought Yeseo had killer center charisma and I really wanted her to debut because of that. That was actually one of the first times I've ever had a strong opinion about a center role, so I'm glad to see others get the same vibe from her.
Dayeon showing us why she's the original P01. She's got good flow in those raps!
the distribution
Dayeon - 23.9
Chaehyun - 23.4
Yeseo - 20.0
Youngeun - 15.8
Mashiro - 15.5
Yujin - 15.3
Hikaru - 14.6
Xiaoting - 12.6
Bahiyyih - 8.6
I find it interesting how Yujin had so much presence even with ok lines, also bahiyyih was so underutilized. I also thought it was interesting how you said youngeun wasn't used to her best potential because I thought she got main vocal-like lines
Just look at the lines yeseo n dayeon got compared to youngeun, also if yujin had ok lines then youngeun too had ok lines not great, youngeun just got one pre chorus part similar to chaehyun which i don't think one of the best vocals of any grp gets in kpop
@@apink930 well like the other members she got a lot of the chorus parts and one of the o’s when you think about it her lines aligned with Chaehyun, Chaehyun just got more of them. I also think line distribution is not just about the quanity but also the quality, she got the vocal parts of the song which was really only the pre chorus, the rest was rapping or changing. Dayeon was treated as a main rapper and with a non vocal heavy song, I think she deserved to have so many parts. Yeseo idk abt.
@@108daytona6 if hikaru had difficulty to memorize song then i can understand or else few of dayeon rap could be hikaru's also last trio of xiaoting dayeon n mashiro in there rather than mashiro it could hv been hikaru also bahiyyih getting few yeseo lines if not chorus time than pre chorus parts
Wow Bahiyyih didn’t even have 10sec... this company is pure evil! She’s my bias and I felt so down because of this, thankfully MVSK distribution is better but that’s a bside, I can’t believe they neglected her so bad in the title track
I think bahiyyih line was understandable. Since she has a distinct voice that are different from the majority of the group (most has a rather cute voice) and half of them are better than her (skill/technically) in singing so of course they would get more line than her.
I think for now we should stop complaining a lot and just accept it (I'm sorry it's getting annoying 🙏🏼). I don't think they intentionally give her less line it's just harder to find a line that suit her. Hiyyih line in mvsk was the prove. we can see in mvsk hiyyih was given more since the song suit her voice more
However the screen time distribution on the MV are really bad. They didn't show her for almost first half of the MV.
well the MV was bad in the first place. cause its almost all choreography theres no visual shot or storyline for all of the girls. You can clearly see the difference if you compare it to other MV from other gg with a lot of member like izone or twice
I LOVE THIS AND THEIR B SIDES???? OMFG, a really good debut!
i love seeing praise for yeseo! she's been my girl since ep 1. i always leave ur vids gaining new appreciation for the song and mv. also i slightly disagree ab youngeun, one of my first reactions was damn her vocals are carrying so she shined for me. and she's not even in my bias line. i feel like she's their lead vocal, even tho they don't have positions (are positions going out of style? a lot of fourth gen groups dont have them)
I'll be in the minority. Thought the song was a lot of fun and mixed the girl crush/cute vibes well. To me its a pretty strong debut. The line distribution is decent and I think the reason people think it's bad has more to do with screentime. The girls have been through a lot even before debut (online hate, COVID, debut delayed). Of course nothing is perfect and I agree the O part of the choreo doesn't seem to fit but it's not surprising they'd try to incorporate hints of GP999 in the song/choreo. My bias is Mashiro and while I'd have loved to see and hear her more I knew she wasn't gonna be the star. Think some fans need to remember that who ranked #1, visuals and main dancers matter in kpop. Have the mini album on repeat. MVSK is an awesome Bside and hope they perform it on music shows alongside Wa Da Da.
Also people saying IZ*ONE had an established sound from debut probably don't remember that La Vie En Rose was originally suppose to go to CLC. It wasn't specifically written for IZ*ONE, it's just the sound/style they ended up keeping. Comparing the 2 survival groups seems a bit unfair. I hope Kep1er maintain the balance between cute and girl crush cuz here's the thing I fans prefer GC and K fans seem to prefer cute concepts. Also Yujin is 25 while Yeseo is 16. Only way to make everyone happy is to balance both.
people are acting like they have wjsn/loona line distribution like its really not that bad 😭
@@bunjay8226 for real!! I was worried the 3 foreign members wouldn't even have lines. But the oh oh oh/Wa Da Da parts were split between everyone.
I agree about screen time vs line distribution! If you check out line distribution vids, it’s really even in comparison to most groups of this size, ESP for a debut song. The song grew on me but I was not disappointed after the first listen at all. I really agree with the comparison to Pristin from most comments. Def a niche that has a precedence so I don’t think it’s weird at all.
agreed
A good callback to a previous song is Brave Girls 치맛바람 and how they reference Rollin. I think the OOO reference here needed to be more subtle.
Loved this song from first listen, that doesnt happen to me often! Made me think of songs from sment, because of the chorus combining vocal heavy parts and noise music. It works really well!
i felt the creative confusion so much when the teasers were coming out, i had no idea what kidn of group they were and they had all kinds of outfits, but the actual MV was edited so epicly and i love the song!
I expected more from them tbh. I expected something magical, esoteric, astral, out of this world, cosmic, planetary. I got pedestrian
Not pedestrian 😭😭💀
seventeen has 13 members and still has a better line distribution than a 7 member group. crazy!
It helps when you're writing songs for your own group!
I'm happy to see Kep1er debut after following GP999 religiously hahah 😂 But I'm a bit disappointed in the mv and that Yujin didn't get more prominent parts. Best part for me was easily Xiaoting, she SERVED!!
glad to see you here in 2022 PD. looking forward to more comebacks and your reactions / takes on them.
I have mixed opinions on their debut. I think it's a good debut, their staff didn't want to be too experimental or something and they wanted to play it safe. I wish they got more budget, i'm talking about both the song and the music video. The MV is not cheap of course, but in comparison to La Vie En Rose we can say that they put less budget. I agree with PD about the shots and the scenarios, they could've done much better. I didn't like the "industrial" type of scenes. About the song, I think it's not a bad song and I can see why many people like it, but it's not my cup of tea because I'm not too much of a fan of beat drops and noise music in general. The "oh oh oh" part doesn't sit right with me, it sounds and looks different from the rest of the song and the choreo, and I especially didn't like the choreo because they were not on beat and the movement with the hand looked weird (?). I LOVED Xiaoting's and Dayeon's part, they slayed this debut, even if Xiaoting didn't get so many lines. I would have prefered more lines by Youngeun, and I hope she will get to shine more in their first comeback. I'm a huge fan of Kep1er because I'm a cheshire so I followed Yujin in Girls Planet 999, falling in love with all the other girls too, but I didn't like this debut and I don't think it is as memorable as LVER, Dream Girls or Energetic. But who knows maybe it will grow on me, I really hope so.
Actually in the stage the choreo look better than in the mv
Yeah, but La Vie En Rose was fire!
Dang. Props to filming a 25 minute reaction and having it edited and loaded in such a short time
Youngeun came into GP999 as a dancer and rapper, and left a main/lead vocalist. Girl is TALENTED!!!
While watching the mv I felt mixed emotions especially cuz I costantly had to be looking for some members for example bahiyiih. I think the line distribution and screentime was a little unfair for some members. But I am glad the company didnt do Xiaoting dirty,because I thougth they will give her few lines and not too much screentime for being a foreigner but thankfully that didnt happen. But unfornatelly it did happen with other of the members. And the coreography part of the "oh oh oh oh" is weird. There is a lot of options they could have done a heart motion of something. And it felt like a perfomance video not a mv tbh(maybe because I was expecting a storyline or a concept about space or some)
Agree with youngeun part maybe producers should make a vocally appealing song than instrumental, also if they didn't had oh oh part and had more new lines then it would have been great, oh oh part just feels like a completely new song
thank you for voicing and explaining all my feelings on this mv and song that i would never have the expertise to
For me, MVSK is the better song between the two, plus we got main vocal Youngeun, center Xiaoting and rapper Hikaru, Bayyihh got more lines too.
love that Yeseo acknowledgement. My baby kills all her lines no matter how short or long ever since gp999. Her stage presence is undeniable
this gives me major pristin vibes in the best way possible
same producer
so far this is the best reaction and the best comments about the debut and everything I saw today...
that's why I love PD so much btw, thank you for this and every video made until now! :)
Honestly I think this is Great for a debut song, it might not be everybody’s cup of tea but nobody can deny that it’s super catchy. Having a catchy song is great for debut!
I don’t think it’s catchy at all. Very forgettable. Wish the girls the best cuz I am a big fan but honestly this one easily one of the weakest debut song of a gen 4 group.
I don’t find this song catchy. I have listened 3 times at this point and there isn’t anything that got stuck in my head. And I am a fan of noise music. But I seriously see no ambition here. Where was this going? I’m clueless.
I feel like their popularity would skyrocket if they took on more of the MVSK vibe and created more sounds like that bc MVSK is the best song on the track. Its so different and cool (like chic) and their voices all sounded amazing!!! MVSK should've been the title! Prove me wrong
Nah I'm absolutely in love with this song!! The chorus reminds me of Fallin' by Monsta X which is one of my all time favorite songs and I'm super here for it! The girls went OFF
Monsta X, you say? I detected a person with taste :)
such an amazing debut i absolutely love it
I need your reaction to p1h’s comeback!! their title track is “Do It Like This” and i just know you’ll love it!!!
As a producer if you decide to go for "girl crush" vibe then *stick* to it, this was a mix of a song but not a great one. I dont think it was bad but it could've been way better. I guess Iz*one left me thinking mnet was going to level up but who knows maybe in the future.
Also I'm using "girl crush" very lightly since I think concepts are on a spectrum and don't have to be a copy of past songs. I think they're definitely mixing some teen crush here and there too but I just wished they would go full out 100% with whatever the concept is instead of different vibez. *Either way they're gonna successful so pleasing my taste won't make a difference in their career lol*
Right. I think the song is very good but this post-chorus is very odd and weird at first. I also think the choreo is stange in that part.
The bside MVSK (Youngeun centered song) and their "intro" are very catchy.
I'm looking forward for their future and very much agree with your opinion.
I will never regret subscribing you for years. You always get the points right. I am totally disappointed with the line distribution. WakeOne failed to utilize some members' talents. Especially bahiyyih. It could've been her shining moment, disproving all the hate she got. And she is the most famous member. The company should've known that. A lot of fans were disappointed and stopped streaming after the mv release. The group can achieve so much if all the fans are fed
@@nahqiv She's gotten literally NOTHING but hate even when she was doing stable and hella consistent on GP999, and now that they're debuting their response is to... make sure she can't prove anyone right, stuff her in the back, and not let her do anything. Of course she probably is fucking frazzled. When they did the AMA thing on Twitter, literally a bunch of the people who got replies to her pretending to be nice were bahiyyih antis who were literally making fun of her, which she didn't realize at the time. It's so bad the producer had to beg people to not harass her and this isn't helping her confidence at all.
@jay_tg no she’s not?? Stability is literally one of the main things she’s praised for lmao
i am pleasantly suprised by the amount of lines Xiaoting has (considering she's not a native korean speaker)
but the song is giving me pristin vibes tho!!
honestly i think it’s so interesting how people don’t love this song because i am OBSESSED. it itches the most perfect spot in my brain