Do you prefer heirloom or hybrid seeds in your backyard garden? Let us know! SHOP LAZY DOG FARM FIG TREES: lazydogfarm.com/collections/fig-trees 0:00 Intro 0:50 I'm Not Superstitious, I'm Just a Little Stitious 2:59 Harvesting Cabbage from Our In-Ground Garden 6:42 Comparing Cabbage Varieties from Our Trials 8:53 Comparing Heirloom and Hybrid Seed Varieties
Congrats on the new baby. I was wondering why I hadn't seen Brooklyn much. I can't wait to see the baby helping her daddy in a few years during Tater Time.
We are living in Hawaii now and gardening is completely different than when we lived in the mid-west. I talk to local gardeners to see how the grow things.
Lady Dog Farms is in the perfect location for my information needs! If plants/seeds can handle your area, I’m golden! Sounds awful, but it’s true! Heat wise, we’re real close but we do get colder! Zone 8.. I learn so much from you and your dad.. The fellas up north, all nice folks, and out west just don’t help me out much.. Thanks for all that y’all do.. Ordering some Bravo and Capture in just a few minutes… oh, Them Razorbacks don’t mind hookin’ a ‘Dog on occasion.. when the W-L’s line up right! I’ll give y’all some credit, there were many years of having to eat that Bama sandwich and it was tough! But it’s y’all’s turn.. glad to see it! 🫡
I ordered some Red Snapper plugs this season, real late by the way, just to give ‘em a taste test! My step-mom is a Tomato snob if there ever was one! I’ve grown lots of varieties and there’s only been a few that she really liked. The usual suspects.. Better Boy, Big boy, and the Beefsteaks mainly… well, She just gave the Red Snappers a thumbs up ! And they were late summer stressed plants to boot.. That’s high praise for sure. I’ll be growing more in the spring for sure.
Heck Trav, I didn't even know you were pregnant! Congratulations to y'all! Gonna be fun watching a little lady grow up! All that cabbage might have pushed that Ohio State kick wide left! Glad it did! We're right in line on the hybrid vs heirloom debate. We dang sure need all the help with disease resistance we can get down south! Especially if you're against using the real bad stuff to fight it, like we both are.
Id recommend checking with your county extension service and seeing which heirlooms historically do best for your county/zone. Main reason I like heirlooms is I can collect seeds for next year. If you’re not interesting in the art of saving seeds, then hybrids are fine
I agree hybrids tend to be more robust(hybrid vigor) but I enjoy the challenge of learning how to get a bountiful harvest from the open pollinated varieties. I do a bit of hybridizing myself. I intend to be able to live off what I produce and we may not always be able to buy seed.
I know you hear a ton of suggestions..but.. Try Burpee Triple Crown Bi-color hybrid corn.. oh man! It smoked Peaches-n-cream by 7-8 days, ears were more filled out and complete, more plants made it to the end.. just better all the way around.. and it’s like candy, raw in the shuck! My kids attest to it! Second round coming off in mid-October, Serendipity super sweet bicolor this time… could not find Triple Crown seed in stock anywhere! It’s fast, tough, and very consistent. Eastern Arkansas.
Being born , raised and having lived my life in Ohio for 40 plus years , I'm a OSU fanatic. With that said and all respect intended for / to Georgia , that semi final game was close and on any given day could go either way . I like that you had no bad words for OSU regardless of the very likely possibility you may feel like I do with Michigan , towards OSU . Anyway looking forward to a National Championship rematch and all future content from Lazy Dog Farm ... I wonder what a Bucks bucket could do for your garden lol ....
Dadblammit, I already bought my seeds. And I was really fixin' to argue with you on this one. Then I quickly realized I was only thinking about tomatoes. So far I haven't tasted a decent hybrid for my area (cold, rainy Pacific Northwest). I'll take the few Mortgage Lifters and Gold Medals I can get over Oregon Springs and Early Girls. Yick. But I agree with the rest of what you said. And I learned some and you got me thinking (thank you). But I hope you're wrong about that one packet I bought of Italian heirloom summer squash (whatever they are). The description made me drool a little. No matter, we don't want so much production that it makes the elders complain. Oh wait, they'll do that anyhow. Ha! Well, I thank you Sir on a riveting video, and congratulations on the new addition! We're gonna need to see a little more of her, please. Take care and God bless!
I had that happen to almost all of my cabbages one year. I attributed it to the fact that i had used over head watering the whole season and water settling again the stem. We did eat alot of them. The damage was only in the core.
Congratulations Travis & Brooklyn (and boys)! What a sweet new edition to your homestead! I loved the hybrid vs heirloom discussion today. We’ve grown a lot of heirloom varieties in the past but we are stepping out into more hybrids this year. With grocery prices rising, it’s more important to be productive this year, as we will be relying on our garden much more. Your videos have helped us pick several seeds this year. Take care!
They introduced her on a previous video. So beautiful!! Also they explained about not announcing Brooklyn being pregnant. Hopefully you can go back and catch it. Happy gardening.
Congratulations on you’ll new bundle of joy. Talking about hybrids I’ve been growing a hybrid variety of summer squash called Multipik from Johnny Seeds and it bears loads of squash until it starts to get hot. I don’t believe it can stand up to the Mississippi Delta heat! Been thinking about switching to Gentry squash from Hoss Tools. Heard its very productive and can stand up to the heat. And speaking of Bulldogs I’m hoping my Bulldogs from Mississippi State can eventually simulate some of the same success your Bulldogs are having!
Cabbage autopsy may help determine what killed them, but I suspect that they just froze to death. I grow both heirlooms and hybrids for flavor, yield, and disease resistance. Multi-year tomato trials have revealed my personal favorites. For flavor, #1 is Italian Heirloom (Fruition Seeds). Overall #2 is Red Snapper (Hoss), #3 overall is Bella Rosa (Hoss). #4 overall is Rambler (Hoss). Tops for a sauce tomato is Shelby (Hoss), Avg. 20# yield per plant and well flavored. All grown in 7 gal. nursery pots with drip and under hail cloth. Your results may vary. I need a superb flavor variety of small watermelon (8-10 lbs.) that can be hand pollinated.
Try one of the small yellow icebox watermelons. If you're hand pollinating, you probably want to stick with seeded. Too tricky to try and hand pollinate a seedless flower from a seeded plant.
I grow op or heirloom for many things and will save the seeds. My tomatoes and peppers are mostly heirloom but I will also grow a few Summerpick tomatoes (hybrid). For cucumbers, I grow heirloom and I don't need a lot of cucumbers so 2 plants is plenty. Max production is not needed. Sweet is hybrid. I want the sh2, triple sweet or augmented super sweet. Winter squash is heirloom acorn and butternut. Zucchini can go either way but I think the seeds I currently have are hybrid. Lettuce and carrots are a mix of both.
I am happy that you had an artic blast! Welcome to my world. We were -10 actual temperature. Arkansas was 7 degrees. Gardening is always unpredictable.
I think some people confuse hybrid with gmo. The difference is the gardener using the natural pollen across verieties to make a better variety the gmo is done on a sub cellular basis in a lab.i have met several people that will argue that a hybrid is the same thing as a gmo, and very passionate about it. hybrids can happen in an open pollinated situation in the wild. aW gmo cannot. It makes total sense for a hybrid to cost more. An heirloom just collect and store your seed a hybrid takes a lot of work to controle pollination between the proper verieties every time seeds are produced. It's a funny sight to see ,say for a corn hybrid. Looking across a field that say five rows tasseled and five rows the tassels have been mowed off , to get the correct pollen corn with the correct seed producing corn.
Many, many folks are confused about that. Seed companies started putting non-GMO on all their catalogs and seed packets, which scared folks into thinking that they could actually purchase GMO seeds by accident. GMO seeds are very expensive and I doubt have ever been accidentally purchased.
Excellent points on the Heirloom vs. Hybrid. Usually hybrid squash with the most productivity and the shortest to harvest time. Got to get that squash before the squash bugs and borers get my plants. Also found that if I plant late summer, I actually can have a harvest of squash.
Congrats on the arrival of your new mini-farmer! Good points all around on the hybrid vs. heirloom discussion. I grow some of both, but I do lean toward heirloom, largely because of the seed-saving opportunity. It's not about price for seeds, it's about availability in today's world. I don't grow heirloom and hybrid of the same vegetable at the same time, to prevent cross-pollination of my seed-saving heirlooms. I like Clemson Spineless okra, a really popular heirloom. Flavor's good, not much "itchiness". As for production, if you've got time to cut okra every couple days to get them while they're tender, I cannot imagine a single family needing more okra than 50 or so row-feet of Clemson will provide during a summer in the south. On the taste difference between hybrid or heirloom Bell Peppers, I tried a hybrid variety last summer. They produced well. But honestly, I should have thrown away the seeds and eaten the seed packet...it would've tasted much better!
Congratulations Travis and Brooklyn on that sweet little lucky charm! Only heirlooms I grow are about a dozen tomato plants. With the crazy weather I deal with, hybrids work best for me. I may give an heirloom okra a try this year.
A quick search for issues that might cause the stem on cabbages to rot turned up something call "hollow stem" that affects brassicas. It looks a lot like what you have from what I can see in the video. The information I found suggests that fast growing and larger varieties are more susceptible. That might be something to research.
I like the ability to save seeds. Not long ago a state (Michigan) tried banning the sale of seeds. That worries me over the ability to buy seed year after year.
Congratulations on the new addition to the family, bet she has some proud big brothers!! I'm like you there's a place for hybrid and heirloom in the garden. ✌🏻
Congratulations on then new bundle of joy! I am planting more hybrids this year. Will plant a few heirloom tomatoes, but the majority will be hybrids with better disease resistance. Was just deciding this evening which brassica seeds I'll be ordering.
Great discussion on Heirloom vs Hybrid. You had lots of really good points. This year I am mainly growing Heirllooms mainly because I really want to get a nice stockpile of seeds. In the past I have had really decent production out of most of my Heirlooms. Disease hadn't been too much of an issue for me until last year when 3 of my heirloom tomatoes got hit hard by disease and bugs. Luckily for me they were my determinate varieties and I was still able to get a good harvest before the plants were toast. The issue I have with heirlooms and saving seeds is planning how I am going to plant different varieties in my different garden so cross pollination don't occur. Next year I will definitely add some hybrids to the list. Thanks for all you knowledge
I've had the best luck by hand pollinating then covering the chosen blooms with little organza bags. I buy a bulk pack of little paint brushes to do the hand pollinating of closed blossoms that I kind of force open a bit. Once the fruit begins to develop, I cut the bag off but leave the tie and tape on... so I know they're "chosen breeders" and need to be left on the plant to fully develop the seed. Works pretty good and I can grow whatever varieties I want. I learned to do this when my cantaloupe and cucumber kept cross pollinating.
Thanks for that. I’m working with a small garden so production is very important for me, I really need hybrids for that! I really don’t want to spray any chemicals on our food (most are banned in Ontario anyway and we don’t have the same availability of organic spray as the USA in our small market) so hybrids with lots of disease resistance are really important for that reason too. I did see a video where a gardener planted a load of tomato seed saved from his hybrid plants, the resulting tomatoes were definitely different from the parents but it was still a decent crop over all, so if there was some calamity and you couldn’t buy seed you could still sow your own and eat! Klaus Klaus
I’ve been thinking about your hybrid vs heirloom. I agree with everything you said, in fact I am growing some hybrids because out of 50+ tomato plants last year, I got NOTHING! My only question would be this - is the nutrient levels the same? The reason I ask that is we bred our wheat to take care of disease and such. Now, we have gluten allergies all over the place. My own health took a turn. My Doctor got my attention when she said “ watch your food supply- just because it’s in the grocery store produce, doesn’t mean it’s good for you”. We are starting on a food Forrest this year. Here in Texas, the weather doesn’t know it’s winter. Storms took my hoop house and some beds with it. We have to start over. Look at the garden channel James pegoni ( bad spelling) it’s interesting, I think you will enjoy seeing what he’s doing. I would love your thoughts. Congratulations on the new baby. You’all look like a very happy family! God bless you all.
Decided to grow a lot of San Marzano tomatoes this year. I’m still growing some sweet corn (bodacious or Nirvana). But I want to make some sauce and I have never done it.
I grew the San Mariano tomatoes last yr for the first x. They did very well. They pretty much went dormant during the 100 degree heat we had last summer. I just kept watering them & as soon as it cooled down a little they took off & I had a good crop. Excellent canning tomato👍
Congratulations! So excited for you! So happy you welcomed a girl to your family. My daughter and I are the best of friends! Family is our treasure. BTW plant your mega ton cabbage in your finished compost bin by your house and put a frost cloth over it for good measure. You might get your bragging rights after all. lol
Congratulations!!! I know y’all must be excited to the moon and back with a new lil one in the house. I agree I love to grow some heirloom tomatoes but boy they are hard in this NWFL heat. I’m finding hybrids are so much easier and I do love the extra production that I get from all vegetables I grow.
We have several. The best thing to do is to start checking it when the silks turn brown. Usually a couple days after the silks get really crispy, the kernels are plump and ready. But checking daily ensures you don't let it stay on there too long and get starchy.
Last 2 years I grew all local store bought. Broccoli and cauliflower were crap. Broccoli set tiny heads then they bolted right away. Heads no bigger than my thumb. Cauliflower got some heads then it froze. Killed everything off. I had real good luck with my yellow pear tomatoes. Shared with neighbors. They shared with us. Beets came up this year I cooked some that were the size of ping pong balls. Year before last A-hole mailman walked all over my beets and killed them. I complained at the post office. My Rosemary did well last year and my 2 mint plants did alright. Basil grows very well here. Had trouble with some of my lettuces last year but no trouble the year before. Bok Choy all bolted. I have no idea why. Yellow squash and zucchini both came up well but not as many actual squash to eat. Some direct sun all day some in shade mornings. I think I need more fertilizer. I tried not to do much to my soil to see what would work without adding to it. This year I am using dead fish. Bought some cheap soil to add last year and got a lot of mushrooms from it. I did not intend to grow mushrooms. We dug up any when they came up. Husband loves Asian eggplant last year both plants the flowers would come out and die off only had one set actual eggplant the size of my big toe. Year before had very nice eggplants from same plants bought from the same place.
Travis, You grew triploid watermelon last year with good success. I don’t have the space to grow triploids and a pollenizer variety using the ratio the seed company suggests. Is it possible to manually pollinate triploids with good results? I always grow Estrella and Sangria so I’ll have pollen. I’m interested in several varieties including Sweet Dawn and Valor. Thanks !
You could hand pollinate. But I don't think seedless watermelons require a huge plot. You could just sprinkle a few triploid transplants among your diploid planting just to try a few seedless ones.
You should try the sapporo giant #4 cabbage, it's supposed to get up to 44lbs under optimal conditions. I'm gonna give it a try this year. Got the seeds from baker creek
Whatever helps you sleep at night...Ha. We do that all the time. Take that frozen cabbage and make cabbage aide. Enjoy every moment with that beautiful family.
You're a funny guy... you gotta work on the delivery though...lol. Always grateful for your insights Travis. Happy for you, the FAM and the new addition. Not upset about GA, well deserved!! Tempered by the fact we're tn fans. That aside, I think I'm a little surprised you left the dying leaves still attached to the cabbage as they tend to drain energy form the rest of the plant. Have to wonder if there would have been a little better recovery had you clipped the dead stuff.
Hey Travis I live in New Mexico and I have for about 10 years. I was just wondering if you've ever grown any hatch Green chili? If not I may have to send some hatch Green chili seed your way. These are some of the largest green chilies I've ever grown and they have some of the best flavor I've ever tasted and the heat I like a medium don't like them too hot. Great video sir thank you for all the wonderful information.
Hi SH. I believe that the term Hatch chile just refers to any of a wide variety of Anaheim type chiles grown in the Hatch Valley of New Mexico. There's a broad spectrum of heat levels within those varieties. Big Jim, Joe E. Parker, and Numex 6-4, for examples. Like you, I prefer the mid -range heat levels and always prepare them roasted and peeled to provide a unique regional cuisine. Sandia Seeds is an excellent source of seed varieties.
That is correct I prefer the New Mexico Big Jim the largest variety of the Hatch green chilies. I also think it's the most producing of the Hatch varieties. I grew three different varieties and heat levels. Big Jim took the cake. Best variety for roasting, chopping and freezing. The size and meatiness of the pods is unreal.
@@SH-gd9uq ... Last year I furnished Travis with some seeds of Pueblo Chiles of the Mosco cultivar. They're a mirasol type and, I believe, a little more pungent than Big Jim. I'm certain that he'd enjoy the classic flavor of some Big Jims if we could persuade him to roast and peel them as we do.
Hey bud ive got a couple cabbage transplants ready to go in the garden. Im down near tampa my last frost is feb 15. Do you think those transplants will form a head ?
We think alike for the most part. In regards to heirloom sweet corn, I would rather eat heirloom field corn as roasting ears. I prefer hybrid sweet corn, especially the (se) and (su-1) types. The good thing about heirloom okree for me is that you can select for spineless plants when saving seed. I destroy plants that have spines and only select seed afterwards. Hybrid okree, like Travis stated, is often loaded with huge spines both on the plant and the pods. It's informative to look at the history of southern watermelon breeding prior to the introduction of hybrids. Prior to the advent of agriculture schools, experiment stations, breeding programs, etc., most large scale plant and planting experimentation took place on private plantations. For example the Bradford and (Odell's) White Stoney Mountain watermelons bred in South Carolina. Long story short, by the late 1950s&60s, open pollinated watermelon breeding hit its zenith. Charleston Gray, Jubilee, Crimson Sweet are representative of that era. Improved selections from those varieties are comparable to modern hybrids in many areas. Many of the best modern seedless and hybrid seeded watermelon varieties are based on those varieties.
I agree with your argument with regard to buying hybrid verse heirloom seeds. However, when the shit hits the fan.... and it will, the hybrids will be scarce. Heirloom seed savers will be the productive producers. That's why we do it. Your videos are great. Got Think Prepping?
Travis is the UGA pumpkin a mochata ( probably spelled wrong) type pumpkin. I can't find that information online. That's all I can grow here that will survive the vine borers. I'd love to have a highly disease resistant variety that will overcome the vine borers. I don't have the option of planting them in another plot. I move to a new part of the backyard but it's still only a few feet from where I grew them last year.
Your recommendations on Supremo cucumber and the Pantheon Italian zucchini were great. Both did exceptionally well here in SW Arkansas. Johnny's has been out of the Supremo seeds for months. Do you happen to know if they'll be carrying them again?
I saw that. As a result, I actually went with a variety called "Excelsior." Good disease package and it's parthenocarpic, which usually means super-productive.
@@LazyDogFarm thanks. I am covered over here and been trying BT for 2 years.. I'm gonna try your way this year. Keep feeding us your info.. You the man
I'm sure that works both ways. There are probably some heirlooms that are more nutritious, but also other cases where the hybrid is equally as nutritious.
Important question about parthenocarpic cucumbers. Is it true that you can't plant a non parthenocarpic cucumber next to a parthenocarpic one because it'll mess up and deform the fruit? If so, is that also true if you plant 2 different parthenocarpic varieties like beit alpha and h-19 little leaf next to each other?
We did a test on that theory last year. We planted Corinto and Supremo on the same trellis and noticed no issues. I'd say go for it. This year I'm growing two parthenocarpic varieties side by side -- Corinto and Excelsior.
It won’t mess up any fruit on your first year. The issue is if you want to save the seeds, you won’t know what you will get if you try to save seeds and plant where two cucurbits were planted close together.
You will have to clarify your analysis on pickling cucumbers. Are you selling or just trying to keep up with 20 feet of row? I had 100 feet of row a few years ago. That was a mistake.
I can't imagine having to pick a 100' row of cucumbers. Usually 20' is way more than enough for us. Just saying that if you want to maximize production in a small space, a hybrid would allow you to do that.
Yes we sell at farmers markets and around locally. I enjoy watching other gardeners and seeing how they overcome problems. I plant hybrids and OP. I like the idea of tarps you and a couple others have convinced me to try it. Keep up the good work.
I have no bees . What kind of squash and cucumbers can I grow to see any product from. Them? Last year, I had no squash at all and very few cucumbers toward the end of the season. Even had my soil tested and was ok with that and didn't have to add anything. Really had me disappointed.
You'll want to grow parthenocarpic cucumbers as they don't require pollination. Corinto is a great one -- we grew it last year. As far as the squash go, there are some parthenocarpic summer squash varieties as well. Golden Glory is a yellow zucchini that does very well.
I’m wondering how the cabbage and sausage agreed with the baby?😉 I was born on New Year’s Eve. My dad never called me his little sweetie or darling. He called me his little tax deduction.!
I have never eaten a good tasting SEEDLESS WATERMELON from a store , Not saying they were bad or not sweet just not as good as seeded. and as KIDS we loved spitting watermelon seeds
Heirlooms and OP all the way, our seeds are so monopolized now it’s not funny. We have lost 80-90% of the varieties we had 100 yrs ago. Biodiversity is super important, I for one don’t like to outsource control of our seeds more than we already have. Market gardens may like the hybrids for looks and production, I prefer taste, if it doesn’t taste good what’s the point? All comes down to preference. I’ve grown Heirlooms for decades for many reasons, when that gene pool is severely limited then where do the new varieties come from? I don’t take my seed for granted and relinquish control to big corporations and their patents on seed and plant traits, patent the coloration of a lettuce? No way. I support smaller public domain plant breeders. I like John Navazio’s philosophy , he is a breeder for Johnny’s seeds, don’t succumb to Hybriditis as he quotes in his great book , the organic seed grower. Keep the balance and diversity in gardening seeds.
Do you prefer heirloom or hybrid seeds in your backyard garden? Let us know!
SHOP LAZY DOG FARM FIG TREES: lazydogfarm.com/collections/fig-trees
0:00 Intro
0:50 I'm Not Superstitious, I'm Just a Little Stitious
2:59 Harvesting Cabbage from Our In-Ground Garden
6:42 Comparing Cabbage Varieties from Our Trials
8:53 Comparing Heirloom and Hybrid Seed Varieties
Congrats on the new baby. I was wondering why I hadn't seen Brooklyn much. I can't wait to see the baby helping her daddy in a few years during Tater Time.
We are living in Hawaii now and gardening is completely different than when we lived in the mid-west. I talk to local gardeners to see how the grow things.
Lady Dog Farms is in the perfect location for my information needs! If plants/seeds can handle your area, I’m golden! Sounds awful, but it’s true! Heat wise, we’re real close but we do get colder! Zone 8.. I learn so much from you and your dad.. The fellas up north, all nice folks, and out west just don’t help me out much.. Thanks for all that y’all do.. Ordering some Bravo and Capture in just a few minutes… oh, Them Razorbacks don’t mind hookin’ a ‘Dog on occasion.. when the W-L’s line up right! I’ll give y’all some credit, there were many years of having to eat that Bama sandwich and it was tough! But it’s y’all’s turn.. glad to see it! 🫡
I ordered some Red Snapper plugs this season, real late by the way, just to give ‘em a taste test! My step-mom is a Tomato snob if there ever was one! I’ve grown lots of varieties and there’s only been a few that she really liked. The usual suspects.. Better Boy, Big boy, and the Beefsteaks mainly… well, She just gave the Red Snappers a thumbs up ! And they were late summer stressed plants to boot.. That’s high praise for sure. I’ll be growing more in the spring for sure.
Heck Trav, I didn't even know you were pregnant! Congratulations to y'all! Gonna be fun watching a little lady grow up! All that cabbage might have pushed that Ohio State kick wide left! Glad it did! We're right in line on the hybrid vs heirloom debate. We dang sure need all the help with disease resistance we can get down south! Especially if you're against using the real bad stuff to fight it, like we both are.
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2 thumbs up if that was possible. Dawgs smack talk AND a Michael Scott reference in the first minute! Great video as always Trav!
Id recommend checking with your county extension service and seeing which heirlooms historically do best for your county/zone. Main reason I like heirlooms is I can collect seeds for next year. If you’re not interesting in the art of saving seeds, then hybrids are fine
Congratulations on the new lucky bundle of joy! 🥰
I agree hybrids tend to be more robust(hybrid vigor) but I enjoy the challenge of learning how to get a bountiful harvest from the open pollinated varieties. I do a bit of hybridizing myself. I intend to be able to live off what I produce and we may not always be able to buy seed.
As an LSU grad and fan, it hurts me to admit that the dawgs did well! I must admit they did good! Go TIGERS!
I know you hear a ton of suggestions..but.. Try Burpee Triple Crown Bi-color hybrid corn.. oh man! It smoked Peaches-n-cream by 7-8 days, ears were more filled out and complete, more plants made it to the end.. just better all the way around.. and it’s like candy, raw in the shuck! My kids attest to it! Second round coming off in mid-October, Serendipity super sweet bicolor this time… could not find Triple Crown seed in stock anywhere! It’s fast, tough, and very consistent. Eastern Arkansas.
Being born , raised and having lived my life in Ohio for 40 plus years , I'm a OSU fanatic. With that said and all respect intended for / to Georgia , that semi final game was close and on any given day could go either way . I like that you had no bad words for OSU regardless of the very likely possibility you may feel like I do with Michigan , towards OSU . Anyway looking forward to a National Championship rematch and all future content from Lazy Dog Farm ... I wonder what a Bucks bucket could do for your garden lol ....
Dadblammit, I already bought my seeds. And I was really fixin' to argue with you on this one. Then I quickly realized I was only thinking about tomatoes. So far I haven't tasted a decent hybrid for my area (cold, rainy Pacific Northwest). I'll take the few Mortgage Lifters and Gold Medals I can get over Oregon Springs and Early Girls. Yick. But I agree with the rest of what you said. And I learned some and you got me thinking (thank you). But I hope you're wrong about that one packet I bought of Italian heirloom summer squash (whatever they are). The description made me drool a little. No matter, we don't want so much production that it makes the elders complain. Oh wait, they'll do that anyhow. Ha! Well, I thank you Sir on a riveting video, and congratulations on the new addition! We're gonna need to see a little more of her, please. Take care and God bless!
I had that happen to almost all of my cabbages one year. I attributed it to the fact that i had used over head watering the whole season and water settling again the stem. We did eat alot of them. The damage was only in the core.
Congratulations to y'alls new addition ♡ new blessing
Congratulations Travis & Brooklyn (and boys)! What a sweet new edition to your homestead! I loved the hybrid vs heirloom discussion today. We’ve grown a lot of heirloom varieties in the past but we are stepping out into more hybrids this year. With grocery prices rising, it’s more important to be productive this year, as we will be relying on our garden much more. Your videos have helped us pick several seeds this year. Take care!
Congratulations on the lil lady!!
Thanks Diane!
That’s awesome you had a baby girl! And the fact that she was the reason the Dawgs won is even better! Congratulations!!!
New subscriber here. Really enjoyed the vid. I’m about 40 miles north of Atlanta GO DAWGS! Excited to find a GA gardening channel.
Welcome aboard!
What how did I not know Brooklyn was expecting... Congratulations can’t wait to meet her
They introduced her on a previous video. So beautiful!! Also they explained about not announcing Brooklyn being pregnant. Hopefully you can go back and catch it. Happy gardening.
Congratulations on you’ll new bundle of joy. Talking about hybrids I’ve been growing a hybrid variety of summer squash called Multipik from Johnny Seeds and it bears loads of squash until it starts to get hot. I don’t believe it can stand up to the Mississippi Delta heat! Been thinking about switching to Gentry squash from Hoss Tools. Heard its very productive and can stand up to the heat. And speaking of Bulldogs I’m hoping my Bulldogs from Mississippi State can eventually simulate some of the same success your Bulldogs are having!
I grew a variety called Delta last year or the year before that. It was pretty good from what I remember.
Cabbage autopsy may help determine what killed them, but I suspect that they just froze to death. I grow both heirlooms and hybrids for flavor, yield, and disease resistance. Multi-year tomato trials have revealed my personal favorites. For flavor, #1 is Italian Heirloom (Fruition Seeds). Overall #2 is Red Snapper (Hoss), #3 overall is Bella Rosa (Hoss). #4 overall is Rambler (Hoss). Tops for a sauce tomato is Shelby (Hoss), Avg. 20# yield per plant and well flavored. All grown in 7 gal. nursery pots with drip and under hail cloth. Your results may vary.
I need a superb flavor variety of small watermelon (8-10 lbs.) that can be hand pollinated.
Try one of the small yellow icebox watermelons. If you're hand pollinating, you probably want to stick with seeded. Too tricky to try and hand pollinate a seedless flower from a seeded plant.
I grow op or heirloom for many things and will save the seeds. My tomatoes and peppers are mostly heirloom but I will also grow a few Summerpick tomatoes (hybrid). For cucumbers, I grow heirloom and I don't need a lot of cucumbers so 2 plants is plenty. Max production is not needed. Sweet is hybrid. I want the sh2, triple sweet or augmented super sweet. Winter squash is heirloom acorn and butternut. Zucchini can go either way but I think the seeds I currently have are hybrid. Lettuce and carrots are a mix of both.
Travis, you should plan on the deep freeze happening once every winter, that way you plant cabbages that will survive, just in case there is a freeze.
I want to see my boys.
I am happy that you had an artic blast! Welcome to my world. We were -10 actual temperature. Arkansas was 7 degrees. Gardening is always unpredictable.
CONGRATULATIONS TRAVIS AND BROOKLYN AND BOYS ON THE SWEET NEW EDITION TO THE FAMILY ❤
I think some people confuse hybrid with gmo. The difference is the gardener using the natural pollen across verieties to make a better variety the gmo is done on a sub cellular basis in a lab.i have met several people that will argue that a hybrid is the same thing as a gmo, and very passionate about it. hybrids can happen in an open pollinated situation in the wild. aW gmo cannot. It makes total sense for a hybrid to cost more. An heirloom just collect and store your seed a hybrid takes a lot of work to controle pollination between the proper verieties every time seeds are produced. It's a funny sight to see ,say for a corn hybrid. Looking across a field that say five rows tasseled and five rows the tassels have been mowed off , to get the correct pollen corn with the correct seed producing corn.
Many, many folks are confused about that. Seed companies started putting non-GMO on all their catalogs and seed packets, which scared folks into thinking that they could actually purchase GMO seeds by accident. GMO seeds are very expensive and I doubt have ever been accidentally purchased.
Congratulations on the new member of the family!
Thank you!!
Excellent points on the Heirloom vs. Hybrid. Usually hybrid squash with the most productivity and the shortest to harvest time. Got to get that squash before the squash bugs and borers get my plants. Also found that if I plant late summer, I actually can have a harvest of squash.
Good point I didn't consider on the squash. Fast maturity can be a game changer on those if you have high pest and disease pressure.
Congrats on the arrival of your new mini-farmer! Good points all around on the hybrid vs. heirloom discussion. I grow some of both, but I do lean toward heirloom, largely because of the seed-saving opportunity. It's not about price for seeds, it's about availability in today's world. I don't grow heirloom and hybrid of the same vegetable at the same time, to prevent cross-pollination of my seed-saving heirlooms. I like Clemson Spineless okra, a really popular heirloom. Flavor's good, not much "itchiness". As for production, if you've got time to cut okra every couple days to get them while they're tender, I cannot imagine a single family needing more okra than 50 or so row-feet of Clemson will provide during a summer in the south. On the taste difference between hybrid or heirloom Bell Peppers, I tried a hybrid variety last summer. They produced well. But honestly, I should have thrown away the seeds and eaten the seed packet...it would've tasted much better!
Congratulations.
Congratulations Travis and Brooklyn on that sweet little lucky charm!
Only heirlooms I grow are about a dozen tomato plants. With the crazy weather I deal with, hybrids work best for me. I may give an heirloom okra a try this year.
Great video!! I appreciate your points of view.
Thanks for watching!
Good advice. Thanks
A quick search for issues that might cause the stem on cabbages to rot turned up something call "hollow stem" that affects brassicas. It looks a lot like what you have from what I can see in the video. The information I found suggests that fast growing and larger varieties are more susceptible. That might be something to research.
Great info. Thanks
Thanks Travis and congrats on the baby, and well I guess the dogs too!
I like the ability to save seeds. Not long ago a state (Michigan) tried banning the sale of seeds. That worries me over the ability to buy seed year after year.
Baby Essie and the magic Dawg bucket sure sounds like a plan for a "three-peat" for next season!!!
Let's hope so!
Congratulations on the new addition to the family, bet she has some proud big brothers!! I'm like you there's a place for hybrid and heirloom in the garden. ✌🏻
Great video, valuable information!
Thanks!
Congratulations on then new bundle of joy! I am planting more hybrids this year. Will plant a few heirloom tomatoes, but the majority will be hybrids with better disease resistance. Was just deciding this evening which brassica seeds I'll be ordering.
Great discussion on Heirloom vs Hybrid. You had lots of really good points. This year I am mainly growing Heirllooms mainly because I really want to get a nice stockpile of seeds. In the past I have had really decent production out of most of my Heirlooms. Disease hadn't been too much of an issue for me until last year when 3 of my heirloom tomatoes got hit hard by disease and bugs. Luckily for me they were my determinate varieties and I was still able to get a good harvest before the plants were toast. The issue I have with heirlooms and saving seeds is planning how I am going to plant different varieties in my different garden so cross pollination don't occur. Next year I will definitely add some hybrids to the list. Thanks for all you knowledge
I've had the best luck by hand pollinating then covering the chosen blooms with little organza bags. I buy a bulk pack of little paint brushes to do the hand pollinating of closed blossoms that I kind of force open a bit. Once the fruit begins to develop, I cut the bag off but leave the tie and tape on... so I know they're "chosen breeders" and need to be left on the plant to fully develop the seed. Works pretty good and I can grow whatever varieties I want. I learned to do this when my cantaloupe and cucumber kept cross pollinating.
Thanks for that. I’m working with a small garden so production is very important for me, I really need hybrids for that! I really don’t want to spray any chemicals on our food (most are banned in Ontario anyway and we don’t have the same availability of organic spray as the USA in our small market) so hybrids with lots of disease resistance are really important for that reason too.
I did see a video where a gardener planted a load of tomato seed saved from his hybrid plants, the resulting tomatoes were definitely different from the parents but it was still a decent crop over all, so if there was some calamity and you couldn’t buy seed you could still sow your own and eat!
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Clemson Spineless my favorite
I’ve been thinking about your hybrid vs heirloom. I agree with everything you said, in fact I am growing some hybrids because out of 50+ tomato plants last year, I got NOTHING!
My only question would be this - is the nutrient levels the same? The reason I ask that is we bred our wheat to take care of disease and such. Now, we have gluten allergies all over the place.
My own health took a turn. My Doctor got my attention when she said “ watch your food supply- just because it’s in the grocery store produce, doesn’t mean it’s good for you”.
We are starting on a food Forrest this year. Here in Texas, the weather doesn’t know it’s winter. Storms took my hoop house and some beds with it. We have to start over.
Look at the garden channel James pegoni ( bad spelling) it’s interesting, I think you will enjoy seeing what he’s doing. I would love your thoughts.
Congratulations on the new baby. You’all look like a very happy family! God bless you all.
I might have to re- think my seed starting plan. Thanks Travis.
Congratulations on the new baby. Didn't know you were expecting. Exciting times.
Y’all are going to have a ball with baby Essie!! I couldn’t be happier for you ❤
It’s just where they froze from the stem first and traveled up into the rear end of it. The ones I lost did the same thing
Decided to grow a lot of San Marzano tomatoes this year. I’m still growing some sweet corn (bodacious or Nirvana). But I want to make some sauce and I have never done it.
I grew the San Mariano tomatoes last yr for the first x. They did very well. They pretty much went dormant during the 100 degree heat we had last summer. I just kept watering them & as soon as it cooled down a little they took off & I had a good crop. Excellent canning tomato👍
Congratulations! So excited for you! So happy you welcomed a girl to your family. My daughter and I are the best of friends! Family is our treasure. BTW plant your mega ton cabbage in your finished compost bin by your house and put a frost cloth over it for good measure. You might get your bragging rights after all. lol
Congratulations!!! I know y’all must be excited to the moon and back with a new lil one in the house. I agree I love to grow some heirloom tomatoes but boy they are hard in this NWFL heat. I’m finding hybrids are so much easier and I do love the extra production that I get from all vegetables I grow.
Looks like cabbage root rot Travis. Check it out on the www. I like the superstitious references. I’m using that one. 👍 Happy gardening.
Good morning, im wondering if you have a video, of WHEN to pick sweet corn... i kinda left mine on too long last year.
We have several. The best thing to do is to start checking it when the silks turn brown. Usually a couple days after the silks get really crispy, the kernels are plump and ready. But checking daily ensures you don't let it stay on there too long and get starchy.
Good points made in this video. Thanks for sharing 😊
Last 2 years I grew all local store bought. Broccoli and cauliflower were crap. Broccoli set tiny heads then they bolted right away. Heads no bigger than my thumb. Cauliflower got some heads then it froze. Killed everything off. I had real good luck with my yellow pear tomatoes. Shared with neighbors. They shared with us. Beets came up this year I cooked some that were the size of ping pong balls. Year before last A-hole mailman walked all over my beets and killed them. I complained at the post office. My Rosemary did well last year and my 2 mint plants did alright. Basil grows very well here. Had trouble with some of my lettuces last year but no trouble the year before. Bok Choy all bolted. I have no idea why. Yellow squash and zucchini both came up well but not as many actual squash to eat. Some direct sun all day some in shade mornings. I think I need more fertilizer. I tried not to do much to my soil to see what would work without adding to it. This year I am using dead fish. Bought some cheap soil to add last year and got a lot of mushrooms from it. I did not intend to grow mushrooms. We dug up any when they came up. Husband loves Asian eggplant last year both plants the flowers would come out and die off only had one set actual eggplant the size of my big toe. Year before had very nice eggplants from same plants bought from the same place.
Travis,
You grew triploid watermelon last year with good success. I don’t have the space to grow triploids and a pollenizer variety using the ratio the seed company suggests. Is it possible to manually pollinate triploids with good results? I always grow Estrella and Sangria so I’ll have pollen. I’m interested in several varieties including Sweet Dawn and Valor.
Thanks !
You could hand pollinate. But I don't think seedless watermelons require a huge plot. You could just sprinkle a few triploid transplants among your diploid planting just to try a few seedless ones.
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Thanks for your Travis.
You should try the sapporo giant #4 cabbage, it's supposed to get up to 44lbs under optimal conditions. I'm gonna give it a try this year. Got the seeds from baker creek
Wow. Didn't know a 40 lb cabbage was possible.
Whatever helps you sleep at night...Ha. We do that all the time. Take that frozen cabbage and make cabbage aide. Enjoy every moment with that beautiful family.
You're a funny guy... you gotta work on the delivery though...lol. Always grateful for your insights Travis. Happy for you, the FAM and the new addition. Not upset about GA, well deserved!! Tempered by the fact we're tn fans. That aside, I think I'm a little surprised you left the dying leaves still attached to the cabbage as they tend to drain energy form the rest of the plant. Have to wonder if there would have been a little better recovery had you clipped the dead stuff.
Could you do a blog on your warm season seeds and planting times like you did your fall planting?
Yeah I'll try to do that.
@@LazyDogFarm thank you so much!!! ❤️
I don't think I can give up some of my heirloom tomatoes. ❤🍅
Travis,what do you think of burpless cucumbers?
Cucumbers have never made me burp, so I don't really get the burpless thing.
Hey Travis I live in New Mexico and I have for about 10 years. I was just wondering if you've ever grown any hatch Green chili? If not I may have to send some hatch Green chili seed your way. These are some of the largest green chilies I've ever grown and they have some of the best flavor I've ever tasted and the heat I like a medium don't like them too hot. Great video sir thank you for all the wonderful information.
Hi SH. I believe that the term Hatch chile just refers to any of a wide variety of Anaheim type chiles grown in the Hatch Valley of New Mexico. There's a broad spectrum of heat levels within those varieties. Big Jim, Joe E. Parker, and Numex 6-4, for examples. Like you, I prefer the mid -range heat levels and always prepare them roasted and peeled to provide a unique regional cuisine. Sandia Seeds is an excellent source of seed varieties.
That is correct I prefer the New Mexico Big Jim the largest variety of the Hatch green chilies. I also think it's the most producing of the Hatch varieties. I grew three different varieties and heat levels. Big Jim took the cake. Best variety for roasting, chopping and freezing. The size and meatiness of the pods is unreal.
@@SH-gd9uq ... Last year I furnished Travis with some seeds of Pueblo Chiles of the Mosco cultivar. They're a mirasol type and, I believe, a little more pungent than Big Jim. I'm certain that he'd enjoy the classic flavor of some Big Jims if we could persuade him to roast and peel them as we do.
Hey bud ive got a couple cabbage transplants ready to go in the garden. Im down near tampa my last frost is feb 15. Do you think those transplants will form a head ?
We think alike for the most part. In regards to heirloom sweet corn, I would rather eat heirloom field corn as roasting ears. I prefer hybrid sweet corn, especially the (se) and (su-1) types.
The good thing about heirloom okree for me is that you can select for spineless plants when saving seed. I destroy plants that have spines and only select seed afterwards. Hybrid okree, like Travis stated, is often loaded with huge spines both on the plant and the pods.
It's informative to look at the history of southern watermelon breeding prior to the introduction of hybrids. Prior to the advent of agriculture schools, experiment stations, breeding programs, etc., most large scale plant and planting experimentation took place on private plantations. For example the Bradford and (Odell's) White Stoney Mountain watermelons bred in South Carolina. Long story short, by the late 1950s&60s, open pollinated watermelon breeding hit its zenith. Charleston Gray, Jubilee, Crimson Sweet are representative of that era. Improved selections from those varieties are comparable to modern hybrids in many areas. Many of the best modern seedless and hybrid seeded watermelon varieties are based on those varieties.
Hey Travis how long dose it Take for a water melon to get ripe.
We usually transplant in April and they're ready around July, so several months.
I agree with your argument with regard to buying hybrid verse heirloom seeds. However, when the shit hits the fan.... and it will, the hybrids will be scarce. Heirloom seed savers will be the productive producers. That's why we do it. Your videos are great. Got Think Prepping?
I ain't got time to wait on or worry about a SHTF scenario. lol
Travis is the UGA pumpkin a mochata ( probably spelled wrong) type pumpkin. I can't find that information online. That's all I can grow here that will survive the vine borers. I'd love to have a highly disease resistant variety that will overcome the vine borers. I don't have the option of planting them in another plot. I move to a new part of the backyard but it's still only a few feet from where I grew them last year.
It's a maxima species. But I can attest it does well down here, even when grown in the fall. Here's the info on it: orangebulldogpumpkin.uga.edu
Your recommendations on Supremo cucumber and the Pantheon Italian zucchini were great. Both did exceptionally well here in SW Arkansas.
Johnny's has been out of the Supremo seeds for months. Do you happen to know if they'll be carrying them again?
I saw that. As a result, I actually went with a variety called "Excelsior." Good disease package and it's parthenocarpic, which usually means super-productive.
@@LazyDogFarm thanks, I'll check it out!
Damn! just got my seed order from Johnny's and didn't get "Pantheon"! well, next year.......
Hey there, Congrats on the new Baby. I wasn't aware you guys were pregnant. Will you be selling the dwarf cowhorn Okra seeds soon?
Yes I'll be adding those to the website soon.
All of our cabbage froze smooth to death!
Sorry to hear that.
They had a baby? I didn't even know they were expecting. CONGRATULATIONS! Is this the only girl?
Thanks! Yes, we announced it on this video: th-cam.com/video/eH4Hm6nrN-s/w-d-xo.html
Congrats, dawgs 2nd greatest team ever maybe. 2019 LSU is still the best team ever.
That was a strong team for sure!
I was wondering if the Azara was good for vine borers?
It will help with the little guys. But as is the case with most insects, adults are tough to kill.
@@LazyDogFarm thanks. I am covered over here and been trying BT for 2 years.. I'm gonna try your way this year. Keep feeding us your info.. You the man
From a nutrition standpoint, do you have any information on whether there is any difference between an heirloom and a hybrid?
I'm sure that works both ways. There are probably some heirlooms that are more nutritious, but also other cases where the hybrid is equally as nutritious.
Important question about parthenocarpic cucumbers.
Is it true that you can't plant a non parthenocarpic cucumber next to a parthenocarpic one because it'll mess up and deform the fruit?
If so, is that also true if you plant 2 different parthenocarpic varieties like beit alpha and h-19 little leaf next to each other?
We did a test on that theory last year. We planted Corinto and Supremo on the same trellis and noticed no issues. I'd say go for it. This year I'm growing two parthenocarpic varieties side by side -- Corinto and Excelsior.
Awesome! Thanks man!
It won’t mess up any fruit on your first year. The issue is if you want to save the seeds, you won’t know what you will get if you try to save seeds and plant where two cucurbits were planted close together.
Travis can you freeze cabbage?
Never have tried.
I saw that "Never Have tried" I thought it was a fun guessing game or trivia saying what we've never tried!! Lol Never had I tried Rudabegas
You will have to clarify your analysis on pickling cucumbers. Are you selling or just trying to keep up with 20 feet of row? I had 100 feet of row a few years ago. That was a mistake.
I can't imagine having to pick a 100' row of cucumbers. Usually 20' is way more than enough for us. Just saying that if you want to maximize production in a small space, a hybrid would allow you to do that.
Yes we sell at farmers markets and around locally. I enjoy watching other gardeners and seeing how they overcome problems. I plant hybrids and OP. I like the idea of tarps you and a couple others have convinced me to try it. Keep up the good work.
😊👍
Go Dawgs!
I have no bees . What kind of squash and cucumbers can I grow to see any product from. Them? Last year, I had no squash at all and very few cucumbers toward the end of the season. Even had my soil tested and was ok with that and didn't have to add anything. Really had me disappointed.
You'll want to grow parthenocarpic cucumbers as they don't require pollination. Corinto is a great one -- we grew it last year. As far as the squash go, there are some parthenocarpic summer squash varieties as well. Golden Glory is a yellow zucchini that does very well.
@@LazyDogFarm thank you.
I’m wondering how the cabbage and sausage agreed with the baby?😉 I was born on New Year’s Eve. My dad never called me his little sweetie or darling. He called me his little tax deduction.!
Haha! We told the doctor that if she was born a few hours into the New Year, that we were going to backdate the birth certificate. lol
Do you get your seeds from Hoss still?
I don't
Have you try any Japanese or Russian giant cabbages
I have not.
I have never eaten a good tasting SEEDLESS WATERMELON from a store , Not saying they were bad or not sweet just not as good as seeded. and as KIDS we loved spitting watermelon seeds
I lost several broccoli plants. They were young but the stem froze and turned to mush
I guess i missed the pregnancy announcement! Congrats!
Thank you!!
Have you ever grown a cabbage called Savoy? If so what did think of it?
I have. Those tend to get a lot more bug damage for us than standard cabbage, so I don't grow them as much. They're very tender and tasty though.
The hard freeze causes the rot
Have you asked the ducks their opinion about the watermelons 😂😂😂😂😂
They're not particular about the seed origins.
@@LazyDogFarm 😂😂
roll tide!
😂❤😂❤😂 love you all
Heirlooms and OP all the way, our seeds are so monopolized now it’s not funny.
We have lost 80-90% of the varieties we had 100 yrs ago.
Biodiversity is super important, I for one don’t like to outsource control of our seeds more than we already have.
Market gardens may like the hybrids for looks and production, I prefer taste, if it doesn’t taste good what’s the point?
All comes down to preference.
I’ve grown Heirlooms for decades for many reasons, when that gene pool is severely limited then where do the new varieties come from?
I don’t take my seed for granted and relinquish control to big corporations and their patents on seed and plant traits, patent the coloration of a lettuce? No way. I support smaller public domain plant breeders.
I like John Navazio’s philosophy , he is a breeder for Johnny’s seeds, don’t succumb to Hybriditis as he quotes in his great book , the organic seed grower.
Keep the balance and diversity in gardening seeds.
What do y'all do with your cabbage to preserve other than sauerkraut? I just don't like it.
We don't really preserve it besides making some sauerkraut now and then. We just enjoy it while we have it.
Have you ever grown yellow meat watermelon?
Gonna try some this year. We've got some seedless ones and seeded ones we're planning on growing.
😂😂😂 I knew that was coming them people should of had never been in that championship game
Michigan was no better.
roll tide!! see you next year!
What, new baby??
Wife did not like the taste of Jambalaya okra.