ROG Ally VS Steam Deck | Loading Times & Peformance Comparison | Analista De Bits
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- This review was conducted with the pre-release firmware on ASUS ROG Ally. Its performance might change in the final version.
- ASUS will release 2 models of ROG Ally. The Z1 Extreme version will be released on June 13 for 799€. For more information, visit this link: es.rog.gg/ROGALLY_media
- All games reviewed in this video correspond to the Steam version.
- In terms of materials, ergonomics, display and sound ROG Ally is a substantial improvement over Steam Deck.
- ROG Ally uses a 1080p/120Hz IPS display with Freesync versus Steam Deck's 800p/60Hz LCD.
- Running Windows 11, ROG Ally gives us access to any client available on PC. From Steam, to Epic Games or Xbox Game Pass.
- Steam Deck takes advantage in some aspects better of your hardware thanks to its custom OS and Gaming mode.
- Valve also collaborates with some developers to optimize their games on Steam Deck and this makes the differences with ROG Ally not too far apart in some titles.
- However, ROG Ally hardware can outperform Steam Deck by up to 20/30fps running at its native resolutions as a general rule.
- Load times on ROG Ally are faster when turning it on, starting games or within the game itself.
- ASUS has started down a promising path into handheld PCs. If it continues to work to optimize the ROG Ally hardware, Valve would have its work cut out for it with the successor to Steam Deck.
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- This review was conducted with the pre-release firmware on ASUS ROG Ally. Its performance might change in the final version.
- ASUS will release 2 models of ROG Ally. The Z1 Extreme version will be released on June 13 for 799€. For more information, visit this link: es.rog.gg/ROGALLY_media
- All games reviewed in this video correspond to the Steam version.
- In terms of materials, ergonomics, display and sound ROG Ally is a substantial improvement over Steam Deck.
- ROG Ally uses a 1080p/120Hz IPS display with Freesync versus Steam Deck's 800p/60Hz LCD.
- Running Windows 11, ROG Ally gives us access to any client available on PC. From Steam, to Epic Games or Xbox Game Pass.
- Steam Deck takes advantage in some aspects better of your hardware thanks to its custom OS and Gaming mode.
- Valve also collaborates with some developers to optimize their games on Steam Deck and this makes the differences with ROG Ally not too far apart in some titles.
- However, ROG Ally hardware can outperform Steam Deck by up to 20/30fps running at its native resolutions as a general rule.
- Load times on ROG Ally are faster when turning it on, starting games or within the game itself.
- ASUS has started down a promising path into handheld PCs. If it continues to work to optimize the ROG Ally hardware, Valve would have its work cut out for it with the successor to Steam Deck.
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- Esta review se ha realizado con el firmware de prelanzamiento en ASUS ROG Ally. Su rendimiento podría cambiar en la versión final.
- ASUS lanzará 2 modelos de ROG Ally. La versión Z1 Extreme se lanzará el 13 de junio por 799€. Para más información, visita este enlace: es.rog.gg/ROGALLY_media
- Todos los juegos analizados en este video se corresponden a la versión de Steam.
- En cuanto a materiales, ergonomía, pantalla y sonido ROG Ally supone una mejora sustancial con respecto a Steam Deck.
- ROG Ally utiliza una pantalla IPS de 1080p/120Hz con Freesync frente al LCD de 800p/60Hz de Steam Deck.
- Con Windows 11, ROG Ally nos da acceso a cualquier cliente disponible en PC. Desde Steam, hasta Epic Games o Xbox Game Pass.
- Steam Deck aprovecha en algunos aspectos mejor su hardware gracias a su OS personalizado y su modo Gaming.
- Valve también colabora con algunas desarrolladoras para optimizar sus juegos en Steam Deck y esto hace que las diferencias con ROG Ally no se alejen demasiado en algunos títulos.
- Sin embargo, el hardware de ROG Ally puede superar en hasta 20/30fps el rendimiento de Steam Deck ejecutándose en sus resoluciones nativas por norma general.
- Los tiempos de carga en ROG Ally son más rápidos al encenderla, iniciar juegos o dentro del propio juego.
- ASUS ha empezado un camino prometedor dentro de los PC handheld. Si continua trabajando para optimizar el hardware de ROG Ally, Valve tendría un duro trabajo por delante con la sucesora de Steam Deck.
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It would be interesting to see their comparison with the same tdp
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Customers are not respected here! With such an attitude towards their customers, you should not open online stores at all!
What people think valves thinking- Oh no, competition makes us look bad.
What valve actually thinks- IT WORKED! Another device that's going to run Steam and we can now get more people into our platform.
Lmao people are just gonna download pirated copies off steamunlocked, fitgirl oceanofgames etc
that's the only reason these gaming laptops or handheld are worth more than the ps5 and xbox one
@@GamingIntelCoreM-y that was what I was gonna do thas why I am buying rog ally not steam deck
@@GamingIntelCoreM-y yeah I use my ps5 to play games in my bed or while traveling
@@GamingIntelCoreM-y that's just you, people with large libraries of paid games from steam and epic would also buy this handheld
@@GamingIntelCoreM-y a person who can buy an RoG Ally won't even need to pirate game's in the first place . The $700+ price tag alone is very self explanatory.
Exito en tu canal siempre!!. Excelente trabajo!!
I have a steam deck and its impressive how much technology has improved over the years. A small littel motherboard with a small APU and can do so much these days!
We gotta thank Valve for bringing in competition. I hope Sony hops back on handhelds!
PsVita was my adolescence.
Sony Project Q is failure. Sony wont be making handhelds any time soon.
You got to thank Nintendo first.
Lmao
Lmao
Nice comparison tests, which deck did you run your timing/tests on? the 64GB eMMC SSD model or the 256/512GB NVME SSD model(s) ?
This is the best video about the ROG Ally so far! There are several ones from established reviewers where you have to put a lot of imagination in their storytelling about this device.
@@maxxcon170 Do you regret buying Steam Deck, so you only watch 1 superior video for Steam Deck? just accept that rog ally is 1 level above steam deck lmao
@@risyadrezky3242 did you purchase your ally and realise its entire potential relies on you being plugged into your wall at home, defeating the purpose of a handheld lmao
@@risyadrezky3242 you just sound like you're mad that you don't even have the option to purchase a steam deck in your slum town country lmao
@@Suckkoguess he can't buy it cause it is not available in his country.. mine is also not available but local retailers sell it though 64 GB is 430 dollars idk with this people steam deck is already 1 year and they always compare to steam deck of course new one will be better the thing is software is better...armor crate crash a lot which is really annoying though if it works it's good.
@@Suckko 65w powerbanks exist. Easy solution.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to do this.
this comparison is sooooo good. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I own the steam deck and can't wait to get my hand on Ally in Jun 13 ♥
I pre ordered the Ally! I’m so excited for it
The funny thing to me is that people are saying not worth leaving the steam deck or they rather keep the steam deck . I'm gonna keep the ally and the steam deck 😂
@@Tha_Lyons Exactly!
you guys are soo lucky to be able to have both. I need comparison so I can pick which best to invest in long run, you guys don't need it lol
@@PrjctWRXu are excited for playing 30min any game on turbo mode😂
Gracias por tu trabajo, como siempre genial 😊
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The ROG Ally could be the best thing to happen to Steam since the Steam Deck. Being able to play Steam games on a portable Windows platform is the best of both worlds.
is it? go look at what happens in a head to head of windows vs linux when in 15w mode and the truth becomes clear windows is a bloated mess allyn needs those specs just to handle windows what your actually getting for gaming is not as much as you think
the ally is the worst thing to happen to the handheld PC gaming market
because it sets back any and all progress valve could have made now instead of valve being able to apply pressure to the gaming industry to increase support for getting anticheat and other games workable on linux theyll just point to ally and say why should we?
so now were locked back into the windows ecosystem where we need to spend more money on hardware and even the os just to be able to get a decent performance and alot of what you actually paid for in performance you dont get to use because that gets taken up by windows and having to run it
windows is a terrible os for gaming
playstation does not use windows
nintendo does not use windos
and heres the shocker XBOX doesent even use windows it uses a verry verry verry basic stripped back to hell operating system that has only the components needed to run the dashboard and the games themselves
no one does this because the less footprint your os takes the more performance you can throw at the games themselves allowing you to keep hardware costs down
most games being on windows is not a argument for adopting windoes its a symptom of the problem valve was trying to fix by breaking the strangle hold on gaming windows had and they where doing it in a way that didnt even pull the monopoly over to them the same development into proton that made windows games run on steamdeck makes them work on other os's
the only major holdouts was anticheat which valve was slowly making progress towards but now why bother ea activision epic and all the others who barley gave a fuck about there users in the first place will just say fuck em tell em to buy a ally if they wanna play
games being on windows was never because windows was good they was on windows because that was the platform that most people had
@@Sarge92 well, it’s interesting that you would mention ‘anti-cheat’. Some of us (myself included) need to run apps that make games easier. I am 73, with arthritic hands. I regularly run WeMod or Cheat Engine….in single player mode only, of course. Valve’s adamant refusal to allow these tools to run on the Steam Deck has made it impossible for me to play several games. I can use these tools on Windows easily. Look, nobody is saying that these tool s should be used in any online, multiplayer setting. But offline, it’s no harm, no foul. Valve could easily have worked to implement an offline restricted mode for modders. They have refused to do so. On the other hand, it is easily done in Windows. I look forward to buying and playing Dark Souls, Elden Ring, and other hard games, which I will play offline in ‘easy mode’. Valve gets a sale, I get to play, and I stay offline so nobody else cares.
Bruh windows trash on handheld
@@findgod... please. Like it or not, Windows is the de-facto OS for the vast majority of software we can get today. Sneer all you like, but good luck getting most games to run on Linux.
@@mjdibella that's the truth. I run Windows 11 on my deck because I want full compatibility with all games. I'd certainly rather have Steam OS Game Mode UI, but I gladly trade that for much higher compatibility.
I love that you can really see the huge diference between displays!
I'm still impressed that steam os works as well as our does since it's using a translation layer (proton) it blows my mind it works that well
and also has shader cache downloaded by steam for the game supported
I remember trying to use Wine (the base of Proton) 15 years ago. It was really bad to use. It not only required too much tinkering but it was extremely glitchy. It certainly evolved amazingly.
Hell, somehow some games works on steam deck through proton but not through windows like FF XIII-2, what kind of magic is that?
@@edmilsoneletrica Yes OG wine was quite the disappointment. Great way to spend hours only to have a game not play in the end anyhow lol
I already pre order the ROG ALLY can wait to get my hand on it ❤
Thanks for the video
🔥fire 🔥
How do u preorder outside of usa and canada
@@wolfmelody2787 Europe can. Asia is Q3
Lucky you
Hey, don't forget to pre-ordered for me. Hehehehe
@@mavvynne444 hahaha 😆
¡Fantástica comparativa! Me da gusto que tengas acceso a hardware con anticipación para hacer pruebas como ésta. La ASUS sin duda es muy llamativa, aunque por precio optaré por una Steam Deck, además sólo será una extensión de mi PC y consolas, así que jugar a 720p/800p es suficiente. Eso si, el mercado de PCs portátiles para gaming se está poniendo muy interesante.
Are u christian
Me ha resultado rara la comparación a x0.25 de velocidad porque aparte de menos fluido, la SD se veía peor. Parece que Elden Ring es el único que se veía mejor en SD a igualdad de resolución. Poping en Hogwarts con Ally. Independientemente, jugar al Cyberpunk o RDR2 en cualquiera de estas máquinas es maravilloso.
I’ve been using the Ally for over a week and it’s been running great. After you do all the updates, it seems to be running okay without any major issues. Overall, it’s a beast! I’ve been playing a lot of FIFA, COD and NFS. The only major issue to me is the battery life, most of the time I have it plugged in. I can barely get through 2 online fifa matches on full charge. A power bank would be a good investment if I were to use it more on the go. So if you are on the fence, just cop it, it’s an amazing handheld! If you can deal with the normal windows problems and god tier battery life 😂, this thing will NOT disappoint!
SD card getting corrupted or burnt is still a design flaw issue in the ROG ally though
Can’t wait to play on the Ally!
People instead of welcoming new options to the market they are like
"hey if you support the steam deck it means you hate the ally and vice versa"
console wars will always exist xdd
Steam deck looks great in mud. The screen feels right at home.
I'm excited to get the Ally Rog pre-order going in this week.
Increíble video y trabajo!!
You didn't show how many power consumption watts they used
Yeah what about battery if it's a handheld that should be a main consideration. If you want to play it docked you might as well just get a PC
@@liamconverse8950 That’s the whole point of the ally…so you know…ppl DON’T have to buy both a handheld and a desktop. YOU CAN JUST DOCK IT AND USE AS A DESKTOP WITH IT’S OWN EGPU..
@@techjunkie1815 ah yes, because most people are buying a $700 handheld to pair it with Asus proprietary $1500 eGPU...
You could build a far more powerful desktop for the price of the XG Mobile eGPU alone.
@@steph_on_yt Huh maybe that's part of Asus' plan, I mean I don't know how much profit margin they get on each unit if Ayaneo is selling a comparable device for $500 dollars more
@@liamconverse8950 the Ally is actually priced competitively, but it seems like Asus is building an ecosystem (starting with the overpriced XG Mobile) to monetize the R&D costs. Valve, on the other hand, makes money from Steam.
Como era de esperarse en cuanto a potencia la Asus Rog Ally no tiene competidor en el segmento de las portátiles. Que bueno ver llegar nuevos interesados en el segmento para hacer mas competitivo el mercado. Dos propuestas muy interesantes que ofrecen distintas prestaciones y que espero continuen mejorando sus servicios.
La competencia siempre es buena para el consumidor :)
Mi pregunta: Es esa asus una competencia cuando cuesta el doble de una steam deck?
@@Ron-hf4nj depende, para ciertos mercados como en latinoamérica dónde no se vende de forma oficial comprar una Steam Deck eleva mucho su costo debido a impuestos a la venta, aduaneros y de importación. Asus alnser una marca con presencia global podría vender la Rog Ally a un precio competitivo y también hay planes de una Rog Ally más económica en camino.
Se ve bastante bien y adema ala pantalla también se ve de bastante mejor calidad y como se sabe resolución también,hay que ver el precio nomás
@@Ron-hf4nj Bueno, el Rog Ally viene con el SSD 512, por lo que es un precio similar el SD de la misma capacidad. Si es competitivo.
Gracis por tu incansable trabajo. De momento soy poseedor de lanzamiento de una deck, y me voy a quedar aquí. Esta bastante interesante como se está poniendo el terreno de los pc de mano.
Exactly the video I was looking for.
Yes finally an unbias one. If there's one thing Valve is doing right now is they are putting a lot of money into marketing and "free devices" for top content creators. So there is a ton of bias info out there on the Steam Deck. Ally is the clear winner.
Who knew a day would come when we can play AAA games natively on a handheld.
Switch did it first 🤷♂️
@@MrMoose-mf1oy no?
@@uxsenebeli MK8, BOTW and Super Mario Odyssey, Skyrim, Witcher 3, Wolfenstein aren't AAAs?? Plus these are pricey, chunky, 600g PCs
Yup, switch first... then Win 3, OXP...etc...
@@uxsenebeliyes? Lol
Thanks for the video. How long does the Rog Ally battery lasts when playing a local 1080p video?
Seria interesante un test que se centre en bateria.
Ambas a plena potencia con el mismo juego a misma configuración, con la potencia minima en ambas y luego la deck a plena potencia y la asus capada al mismo consumo. Asi veriamos duracion de batería en todas las circunstancias
On the rog ally were the games on the turbo profile or performance profile?
This is important info
Watch and pause it at 2:25
This is a very good comparison for the screen quality, even though I love the steam deck, the screen is absolutely trash on it.
Muchas gracias por la comparativa. Durante las rebajas pasadas pillé una Steam Deck y la devolví porque no era lo que me esperaba (quería usarla para más cosas que Steam y le instalé Windows 11; y ni aún así me mereció la pena), pero esta ROG Ally tiene buena pìnta...
Will wait for 2 3 months before buying ally.
Asus's after sales service is bad and many reviews pointed out poor quality of face buttons.
Asus said those were review units and the X button is now fixed. Let's see though, I remember valve having the same B button issues that was probably fixed lata
@@rickmcintosh3570
That's Valve. They released cad files for steam deck design, ifixit partnership etc. I'll take a broken device from them, because I trust their service and their intention.
Asus on the other hand is different and has a long history of bad service
@@arjitmishra100 some frightening stuff being revealed lately. Let's see what happens next.
Ausus has great contrast for an IPS matrix. I thought to buy it, but in Poland, after conversion, including taxes, it comes out to 913 dollars. And for that much there are laptops with rtx3050 ti. Good video😊
yep... the important question is what your needs are. Laptop and handheld.. two different things. For example I can say that for 913 USD I can get much better PC than a laptop :)
@@Simon-ik1kb Yeah for 700$ it’s a really good device but here in Europe Ally is min. 800€ which is basically 880$ and for that price I don’t think Ally is worth it. You can save some more and get yourself a really decent PC.
Además hay que tener en cuenta que esto no es una Steam Deck que sólo se vende vía web en su página oficial no en tiendas como esta Asus, lo cual a efectos prácticos nos deja con que si esperamos un poco esta empezará a bajar de precio en poco tiempo y a salir ofertas.
I have a PC. I'm looking for something mobile. What could I use to continue the game when I'm away from home, and I often am. The mobility of a handheld exceeds that of a laptop, but I don't want to overpay.And since the distribution is different and it will have an impact on the price drop, it's probably worth the wait :)
I thought about it too, but c'mon it's almost double the price. Steam Deck + 512GB SSD costs 2100 zł (460€) and Asus Ally costs 3799 zł (830€) 😔
Amazing video. ASUS screen is incredible i preorder ally and now selling my steam deck.
What no one mentions is that it is using Turbo mode 🔥 where the battery lasts less than 1 hour.
Turbo mode is only accessible when plugged into power for the ROG Ally
@@jumper55fulIt's not, but it is 25W when unplugged and 30W when plugged
@@stealth0n what about the elephant in the room those amazing battery times posted by asus where in 15w mode which when you put both deck and ally into the same power mode with the same resolution the deck storms ahead in performance its only when you crank up to the 25 or higher watt modes that the ally seems to gain any performance advantage which brings us back to the big issue
a huge chunk of the allys extra performance goes to hauling microsofts fat ass around infact its kinda pathetic that a native windows program cant run better than the same program running on linux even with the overhead of using the proton adaption layer which itself should put linux behind windows but it doesn't
maybe asus should have used this amazing Microsoft partnership for more than a crappy free trial to xbox cloud gaming and instead used it
to develop a real skimmed down jeos version of windows for gaming
@@Sarge92 according to reviews, 15W has slightly better performance than Deck, like 15-20% or so. It's 10W or lower that run worse than Deck with the same wattage. Please link the reviews that mention worse performance in 15W scenario, I'd gladly take a look
And I'm well aware that the battery life sucks and having a regular Windows installation on such device is crap
Most people aren’t going to be using turbo. Performance mode at 15w is more than enough for most games while still performing better than the steam deck. At that the Ally’s battery life is about equal to the Steam deck
Definitely an improvement in performance but ill still keep my steam deck. Im happy with the emulation that it does and UI seems easier to navigate especially with the touchpads. Give another year and Im sure that even more competition will arrive.
Go cry somewhere else
@@undisturbed809 🤨
enjoy that low 1280x800 res..
Looooll massive L 😂
Go cry haha, sleep with it
The lack of suspend/resume and trackpads is a big downer for the Ally. Suspend/resume especially is essential for handheld gaming.
It’ll probably be implemented as a sleep mode that is refined and tweaked for Windows handhelds. Or at least, that’s what I am hoping. We shall see, but it’s very early
I believe it doesn't have gyro either
Windows does have hibernate.... it's slower but it's the same thing
@@kevinbuchanan67 heard that it does have gyro tech, not as of today but will be implemented
very nice comparison thanks from s.korea
Es que la comparativa debería ser desconectada de la corriente y que pudieramos ver el consumo y el tiempo restante de la bateria. Y según he leído, ahí está la trampa de esta Asus.
The Ally's screen looks so good.
thats whats winning me over - outside the whole point of a handheld i cant see the screen in light - its awful unless in the dark outside - my switch OLED doesnt have this problem and it looks like this will not suffer same way
Daros cuenta que la Asus, todavía ni ha salido, como todo sistema, a medida que pase el tiempo, habrá actualizaciones y muy probablemente mejore el rendimiento. Steam deck al principio no iba tan bien como va ahora. Dicho esto, me convence más las Asus, pero la Deck por 419 Euros, tiene un precio imbatible para todo lo que da.
completamente de acuerdo pero con un matiz que el modelo de 419 tienes que añadirle al precio para ser justos un ssd de 512 e instalarlo que es muy fácil pero pierdes la garantia, añadir que tengo la steam deck de 512 y estoy encantado con ella por que donde creo que esta su fuerte es en los juegos indies que ahora hay muchos y muy buenos, aun esa ally no esta preparada para jugar como se debe a un gow ya no en ultra si no por lo menos en alto en una pantalla como esa por ejemplo.
Resumiendo portatil ordenador juegos indies y juegos de generaciones anteriores mas emuladores, ordenador de mesa para todos los AAA para jugar como es debido, si me apuras una ps5 o xbox.
Ese tipo de juegos muchos y variados se pueden jugar en esa consola al maximo en 1080p y a 120hz tiene que ser una gozada jugar con ella la verdad.
@@francisco82i Te equivocas con lo de que cambiarle el SSD afecta a la garantía de la Steam Deck, la propia valve tiene hasta un vídeo de cómo hacerlo. No afecta absolutamente en nada.
The saturation looks better in the Ally gameplay, I think you need to get/adjust your vibrantdeck settings to make it comparable
Is this in turbo mode? Seems low from what I’ve seen on other channels
Wow the contrast on the ally is so close to the Oled. Just like at 1:28
Its a direct capture man. You are not seeing the screens here but direct capture.... Lol.....😊
hm what version of steam deck is this sd card or nvme also dont think ally competes vs the $400 version of deck and maybe if they drop it to $350 would be 2x cheaper still
Valve should release a bareboness version of the steamdeck without the internal SSD and price it at $300 - user can install a large SSD later
@@GGoblin1 $400 is already barebones it has basically sd card in there for $2 to store operating system
Can’t wait June 13!!!!!🎉
I like that the performance full resolution on bothvdeviced isnt even that different
Would like to see the ally at 720p in games
Took me a while to decide which of these machines I want to buy. After careful consideration, I chose the steam deck.
Just bought the 512 gb model for 450 in like new condition on ebay 😁
Was it a good choice? Im currently trying to choose between a ally or steam deck help a brother out ❤
How is ally’s is blacker than steam deck on the display? Arent both ips lcd?
What performance mode is being used on the rog for these comparisons? And the tdp being used? 15 25 or 30 w?
Damn….. rog ally virtually destroyed steamdeck. Next video battery charging speed with in box charger please 🙏
basically steam deck frame rate performance but at 1080p, for those who don’t want to watch the whole thing
From a hardware perspective this is pretty much spot on.
From a software perspective the major advantage of the Ally is that instead of you having to spend hours troubleshooting with the Linux mallet to drive that nail all the way in, the Windows hammer will only need one hit.
I'm not anti Linux in any way, but if you are getting something for gaming, go Windows. If you are getting a file host or an app/web server for your homelab, go for Linux. "Horses for courses" I believe they say.
Exactly. They're even imo except the deck is superior in battery life and UX/UI
@@oladipupodurotimi4754 steam deck is weak lol stop copping
@@skyfigurefun lol. You're the one definitely coping. We can all see from these tests that thyre both neck and neck.
@@haakonht Linux is substantially better then windows in many ways with the only thing holding it back being game compatibility. That’s fucking it. Also part of the reason steam chose Linux is because it gave them greater control and ease of development, which means on the technical side asus will have to invest more and it will take longer for them to push out quality of life updates. If the game doesn’t follow blatantly anti-consumer and anti-competitive practices then it runs in Linux just fine
Thank you very good Content
Pero en que modo estaba la rog ally? Perfomance (15W) o turbo? Porque claro, es importante saber eso..
The upgrade isn’t significant enough to justify leaving the steam deck and it’s exclusive features. It’s probably safer to wait for a steam deck 2
This is also my own opinion overall.
I'm not leaving the steam deck I'm just gonna rock both more options🎉
I’ll wait on oled steam 2
Yeah, I don’t feel like I made a bad choice recently buying a steam deck
what exclusive features?
You can easily see the differences in engineering feats by this comparison.. Why would you put 1080p 120hz panel in a handheld console ? Make it 720p or 800p 60hz like SteamDeck and enjoy the extra performance. Screen is already small, and battery is already on a tight budget. Now people will say "then open games in lower resolution" ... Nope, nothing compares to 1:1 native scale.
Asus always does this. Gives 2k 360hz screen to a laptop that has lower end mobile GPU. They just throw buch of stacked hardware but don't think mindfully or ponder over it when it comes to engineering.
then use fsr to upscale from 720p and it will look better without much of battery cost.
Well the ally is more expensive. I just paid 450 euros for my steam deck new. Bought the smallest version and put in a 512gb ssd which was very cheap. So a difference of 350 euros, which is a lot for me.
So I can't really see it as competition
Ahora me pregunto. Vale la pena jugar en este tipo de pc consolisados, independientemente de la resolución, siempre en gráficos al mínimo ? A menos que quieras ponerlo en medio o alto y tener solo 30fps, cosa que igual la mayoría de personas se queja.
Thanks for the detailed apples to apples comparison.
ROG Ally's display looks like OLED and it's good to see.
Unfortunately valve really cheap out when it came to the screen. Even the OG switch has a better screen
tbh I hate OLED and any kind of forced obsolescence techs
any OLED screen will eventually have shadow and burn-in, I'd much rather stick with IPS for long term use of my devices
It is actually pretty insane how much better the Ally performs in certain instances, like with GTA V
Waiting to see if Deck goes on sale.
El modelo del Steam Deck esdel SSD o eMMC?
Es una oportunidad desaprovechada no haber puesto el tiempo que tarda en agotarse la batería en ambas usando las mismas condiciones (vatios, brillo, resolucion de pantalla, ajustes graficos). Tambien veo que te ha faltado poner en ambas el modo o voltaje que estan consumiendo, deduzco que la ally usa el modo turbo (30w) en todo momento en este video por lo que en estos test la batería jugando deberia durar notablemente menos que la Steam Deck.
Tranquilo, esto es sólo una preview. De cara al lanzamiento, habrá más análisis de ROG Ally más detallados cuando tenga acceso al firmware definitivo.
@@ElAnalistaDeBitsLa gracia está en poner esos datos, de que me vale si está consumiendo 30w y la otra 15?
Si encima está enchufada a corriente, porque que yo sepa es una portátil, si empezamos con las trampas y no ha salido aún. Supongo que está promocionado el contenido por eso no interesa que se sepa todo y como dices que no tiene el firmware definitivo, pero entonces no se está mostrando el producto en uso real.
No seas salty bro la verdad verdad es que el steam deck es mejor a voltaje bajo pero la Asus ally le pasa el trapo desde los 15 voltios en adelante.
@@joseromero3082 bueno, la ROG Ally todavía no ha salido, no es culpa suya, lo de los Watts estoy de acuerdo
@@rubenalejandrojozaminassif142 dicen Asus que lo van a mejorar a Voltajes bajos
It is the best hardware comparaison, i have ever seen between SD and Ally. You magnify the overlay and play in the same area. Ally is a good upgrade. Steamdeck continue to do a good job today in 800p.
It is one of the worst, it puts accessories that worsen the quality of the Steam Deck and it does not even show the battery life. Look at the one from Retro Game Corps, it's the best and fairest.
@FranDX thanks for your comment.
Wish there is a battery life test from latest AAA title to old AAA ,and indie games.
Gow rog ally temp goes to 95 celcius. Is this normal?
Asus: The future is now old man (steam deck)
*Laughs in shader stutters*
*Dies after 30 minutes of gaming*
agreed steam dead is the past
Maybe when the Ally gets optimized a bit more and can run low TDP as good as it runs high TDP.
You still honestly can’t compete with the SteamDeck at that price level. If Valve bumped their 256gb down to their $400 system and the 512gb to their $500 they’d be even better.
Sure, until you realize how quick these amd APUs seem to be leapfrogging each previous iteration. A year from now, the 78xx will be obsolete again
That's a great comparison, thanks. I have my Deck since Q1'22 and am very happy I got it. It cost me 530€ (Basic model + 500GB SSD upgrade and 512GB SD Card). Sure Asus has advantages, but the support Valve gives to the Deck makes me think I got the better product. I also do not play AAA titles from 2022 or beyond except for Elden Ring, so performance is not my main concern.
The same thing here. I got basic deck for half a price of ally which cost in Germany 799 eur. Already have a ps5 so the current gen games are not in priority for me to be played on a steam deck
@@clerk1257 also in Germany here :)
For the $699 price tag, if it were the same number in Euros, it would be extremely tempting, but 799€ not really. Also a lot of reviewers are pointing at (what is to be expected) bad software. Well Armory Crate is garbage at best and Windows is not meant for handheld gaming. Sure the performance is there, but most people owning a Deck, have at least another more high end machine, be it a PS5 like you or two more PCs like me lol. I am not impressed and I still love my Deck.
My 64gb deck cost me 350€ and I'm soon getting my hands on that 1tb ssd I ordered. For that price, you can't beat it.
@@fystikogiannopoulos nice
@@fystikogiannopouloswhere did you ordered?
Thanks for this
a ver esto es como todo la asus es superior si.....pero steam con el exito que esta teniendo sacara la steam deck 2 mas potente que esta y quien sabe si a un precio competitivo como la actual,en mi opinion me quedo con deck y esperar al siguiente modelo a ver que tal,definitivamente esto de las portatiles ultrapotentes ha venido para quedarse y competencia habra.
Important to point out is if the steam deck is using the slow 64gb emmc,or using a faster nvme SSD.
Theyre the same thing, no difference
Can we get comparisons at the same TDP? At like 5W, 10W, 15W, etc efc
Linus did that and Ally lose at 15w below
@@DrenzAwe he said it was at 10 watts
Actually at 13 watts, the ally looses but more significantly so at 10 watts.
How is battery test, For AAA game low/max settings ?
Im having steam deck and all my needed games are working so for now im very satisfied plus own pc and ps5 ill wait two more generation until they fix the high battery consuming issue in the handheld pc
There are glaring issues like battery life, but that can be explained since windows loves to run a lot of stuff in the background. I reckon waiting for the next generation of the ally is a better choice.
The Z1 extreme is just a power hog.
for more windows? hell no id sooner wait for steamdeck 2
At the 15w they are about identical but at lower wattages the steam deck consumes less power
Did you make sure to test them at the same wattage? Otherwise you would be playing for less than 1 hour in the Ally ;)
Max wattage on the steam deck is 15!!!
@@coolmodee Yes but what wattage was the ally running in the video? That was the point of my question, the max wattage of the Ally is 30W which is what I was referring to.
Finally an unbias comparison of the two. Ally is the clear winner
Did you tested the Z1 or Z1 Extreme in this video?
Me encantaría saber cómo corre RE4 y Hogwarts en medium. Llegará a 30FPS estables?
La steam deck llega usando el frs 2 asi que la ally 100% que llega tambien.
Interesting that if you’re playing the Deck at 720p/800p and Ally at 1080p the performance is pretty close if not
Identical between them which isn’t bad at all. I know at 720p on the ROG performance is up significantly but I always prefer to run native personally so looking at this there isn’t the headroom for performance like one would have expected.
... wattage wasn't mentioned. Also, run at 720p and upscale to 1080p "native" if you want the boosts
Considering the specs on the ally the steam deck ain't doing bad.
The screen is much superior on the ally though.
45fps es el sweet spot. Sigue subiendo videos del Ally
SteamDeck is much easier to replace parts and you can even get hall effect sticks. Asus I don't believe it will be more forgiving in that aspect.
true. but the ally performance is killing it
@@musquitova especially the screen
True but thankfully I won't have to replace parts on my Deck since I'll be playing the Ally instead once I get one.
What wattage were these tests ?
Yeah we need to know this
Doesnt matter, steamdeck fanboi
Really , I have already preordered one of these
Does it or not the answer aog ally has a better display than the steam deck?
These all 15watt, or is Ally at 28watt?
Gran comparativa. Muchas gracias. Pero por precio, me quedo con la steam Deck
¿Si difiere mucho el precio compi?
@@user-jf3yy3sg4g depende con que lo compares. en USA, la steamdeck de 512GB cuesta 50$ menos que la asus ally
Thank you for this analyze. For me looks like it's not worth to upgrade from Steam Deck at all. Performance SD 800p vs ROG 1080p is very similar. On such small sized screens, 1080p is not a a very big improvement from 800p. Also I like 16:10 aspect ratio.
God of War clearly looked much better on the rog
Exactly it’s actually disappointing because this SOC is capable of a lot more. Asus went cheap with the ram it should be the 7500mhz variant and windows 11 which has high overhead costs. If valve makes a handheld with the 7840 it will be legitimately twice the performance of not more. SteamOS is a streamlined operating system of beauty especially with game scope! I knew windows was going to have crazy overhead smh. Hopefully valve decides to release one later this year or next but if they wait that will be even better next gen amd igpus should run 1080p native 60fps
U need to get the ally and play it on ur own hands, see the difference, steam is weak. instead watching a video lol
La pantalla es de otro nivel el rog
Why the colours seems better on the ROG Ally ?
is the rog in turbo mode?
No
The rob is better but I’m definitely not gonna go out of my way to sell my steam deck and then patiently wait for the rog. Hard pass
wait... so ROG Ally is a portable pc ? like.... more portable than laptop ?
It’s obviously better than the Steam Deck, but is the Rog Ally better than the Ayaneo 2? I’m deciding on which one to get
Ally is faster and cheaper than the Ayaneo. Build quality on the Aya is better
La diferencia de calidad de la pantalla, menor tamaño, peso y sobretodo mejor refrigeracion y un menor ruido hacen que esta maquina sea mucho mas confortable a la hora de jugar que Steam Deck.
Por el doble de precio no merece la pena la vrdd
@@ENB16199 No es el doble de precio. Es $100 mas por el Steamdeck mas caro y tiene mejor todo que ese.
@@jdeleon5816 400€ vs 800€
@@Sitamitlu en Estados Unido vale 757 y la steam deck 649🤷♂️
@@Sitamitlu esta comparando el asus más caro ya que la económica no ha salido por el momento ya que vale $599
ROG Ally screen and colors are a lot better.
Can I check what are the games featured ?
720p is a sweet spot for playing on smaller screen