Going to try stock pressure 36/42 cold for the set of tires to see how long they last and if I need to change the way I ride or the pace. I’ll keep you posted! @bridgestonemotousa S23
With your experiment. What are you using for your air gage? I use Jaco digital for my reference. And add or subtract on my other gages. For instance, my portable air pump reads 3lbs low compared to my Jaco. It's my OCD I very particularly about my tire pressure.
Your thoughts. Haley only show max pressure in the book I always roll thought water to understand tire contact worth the road. My thinking is the center one third is about where I need to be what are your thoughts?
A real interesting subject and experiment. I find 42 psi rear just kicks my back side at slower speeds. So I use 38 as an experiment. I expect lesser mileage.
While not the best pressures for outright grip, control, comfort or anything, your tires will last a lot longer than "sporty" riders suggested pressures I used to just do factory pressures and check occasionally. Got about 10k km out of the rear. Now with a TPMS and more regular tire checks, my rear has still some rubber left at 12.500km
Sorry, but you know am going to ask, is that the 2024 1000XR? Beautiful it kind of looks like an MT 10 but I think its prettier than the older MT 10s. Good stuff👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I really hope that we get a review.
I ran 36F/38-40R on my MT10 and they still got ate up fairly quickly. But damn do they perform much better than S22's. I ended up switching to Pirelli though because I noticed I was going all the way to the edge too easy on the S23's rear as if the center is a little flatter profile than usual.
It's a very interesting topic stock tyre pressures. How can stock tyre pressures be correct for a motorcycle being ridden in conditions between approximately 0 to 35 degrees Celsius? Maybe the stock pressures are a compromise and correct for ambient temperature of approximately 20 degrees Celsius. And adjust accordingly depending on ambient temperature.
This is so they don’t loose their shape too much when cold. Stock pressures are also meant to support 2 up and luggage as well. If you start with lower pressures you need to generate heat really and warm them up, otherwise if you only think you fast then they will stay out of shape and the bike will feel like not turning at all. You can easily ride with stock pressures while outside it’s 35c and also do the same at -2
@deanmsimpson OK tyre pressures at ambient is just that. So you do need to adjust them depending on the temperature so a tyre set at 40PSI in 35 degree C will lose pressure if you check it at 0 degrees C and conversely a tyre set at 40psi at 0 degrees C will increase pressure if you check it again at 35 degrees C. That pressure is designed to work over a broad range of riding styles and conditions. If you are faster and generate more heat then if you check or talk to the distributor they will have a hot pressure so you can set the tyre pressure at a specific temperature of say 85 degrees C if you ride hard enough to either generate or maintain that temp when riding. If you cannot do that then use the cold pressures.
@YAMR1M Also, it is height dependent too, the pressure you would set it too, at the top of the rockies is not the same as at sea level even though the gauge will show the same pressure. BMW used to specify that the tpms pressure displayed was based on an ambient temperature of 16°c and the amount to decrease/increase to compensate for the actual ambient temperature.
@@bhok1971 so you think this guy rides hard enough to actually need lower pressures on the road, regardless of how fast he thinks he is? On the road I run much higher pressures then I do at the track. I am not slow on the road and I am fast enough to run in the fast (advanced) group on a 30 year old 250cc Honda NSR.
Fast canyon riding and rough roads will do that. I can't even get 4k+ out of any rear tire on Texas roads for example but I ride hard and keep my rear around 36-42 psi with the exception of doing track/twisted sisters canyons.
@badgerman23 It's not stupidly low if you're a fast rider needing grip 😂. 36/42 will definitely cause handling and performance issues taking canyons fast.
@@ganuvien Thats stupidly low for road riding, so much so your tyre is nearly under inflated. 36/42 does not cause handling issue at all, sure it's less grippy but you increase tyre life. He's not a fast rider so there is 0 need for him to be that low
@@badgerman23If he's really up that level, S23's are not a good choice. They are fine for the odd trackday, but they are not intended to be used to their treshold continously. Supercorsas would be the better option and will take low pressure far better. But like you, I think his low pressures are kind of non-sensical.
Lad you are not at the level of riding where you will notice a difference in traction, really all you will notice is faster turn in. 100000000s of miles under your belt yet you lack the basic under standing of tyre mechanics
Faster turn in, but also a stiff response, less feedback.... Everything you don't want when riding the streets. But all the Beemer rider aids may possibly compensate for that. 🤷🏼♂️
Going to try stock pressure 36/42 cold for the set of tires to see how long they last and if I need to change the way I ride or the pace. I’ll keep you posted! @bridgestonemotousa S23
Can’t wait to see the results!
With your experiment. What are you using for your air gage? I use Jaco digital for my reference. And add or subtract on my other gages. For instance, my portable air pump reads 3lbs low compared to my Jaco. It's my OCD I very particularly about my tire pressure.
Have you purchased any tools to measure tire temperature? Temp data might help determine best pressures to run depending on load and type of riding.
@@thinkingimpaired5663 whats he gonna do, measure air temp, measure road temp, measure tyre temp then adjust, what a stupid comment
Your thoughts. Haley only show max pressure in the book I always roll thought water to understand tire contact worth the road. My thinking is the center one third is about where I need to be what are your thoughts?
A real interesting subject and experiment. I find 42 psi rear just kicks my back side at slower speeds. So I use 38 as an experiment. I expect lesser mileage.
While not the best pressures for outright grip, control, comfort or anything, your tires will last a lot longer than "sporty" riders suggested pressures
I used to just do factory pressures and check occasionally. Got about 10k km out of the rear. Now with a TPMS and more regular tire checks, my rear has still some rubber left at 12.500km
Sorry, but you know am going to ask, is that the 2024 1000XR? Beautiful it kind of looks like an MT 10 but I think its prettier than the older MT 10s. Good stuff👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I really hope that we get a review.
I ran 36F/38-40R on my MT10 and they still got ate up fairly quickly. But damn do they perform much better than S22's. I ended up switching to Pirelli though because I noticed I was going all the way to the edge too easy on the S23's rear as if the center is a little flatter profile than usual.
Try Sport attack 4 Conti
Performance I'm interested in.
It's a very interesting topic stock tyre pressures. How can stock tyre pressures be correct for a motorcycle being ridden in conditions between approximately 0 to 35 degrees Celsius?
Maybe the stock pressures are a compromise and correct for ambient temperature of approximately 20 degrees Celsius. And adjust accordingly depending on ambient temperature.
One size fits nobody.
This is so they don’t loose their shape too much when cold. Stock pressures are also meant to support 2 up and luggage as well. If you start with lower pressures you need to generate heat really and warm them up, otherwise if you only think you fast then they will stay out of shape and the bike will feel like not turning at all. You can easily ride with stock pressures while outside it’s 35c and also do the same at -2
@deanmsimpson OK tyre pressures at ambient is just that. So you do need to adjust them depending on the temperature so a tyre set at 40PSI in 35 degree C will lose pressure if you check it at 0 degrees C and conversely a tyre set at 40psi at 0 degrees C will increase pressure if you check it again at 35 degrees C. That pressure is designed to work over a broad range of riding styles and conditions. If you are faster and generate more heat then if you check or talk to the distributor they will have a hot pressure so you can set the tyre pressure at a specific temperature of say 85 degrees C if you ride hard enough to either generate or maintain that temp when riding. If you cannot do that then use the cold pressures.
@YAMR1M Also, it is height dependent too, the pressure you would set it too, at the top of the rockies is not the same as at sea level even though the gauge will show the same pressure. BMW used to specify that the tpms pressure displayed was based on an ambient temperature of 16°c and the amount to decrease/increase to compensate for the actual ambient temperature.
Got 12k out of my Road 5 rear on my XR (only 6k on the front) using stock pressures…but I ride pretty easy
motojitsu doesn't understand that lower pressures = more wear
@@badgerman23Fast Eddie (Greg) gets it…he’s trying to maximize grip because he can. For me, no me gusta comprar tires every 2 months.
@@andrewschuster4772 he really doesn't because he will then complain about tyres not lasting long when he's sub 30 psi
I feel like there’s an M version of that bad boy.
...yeah, i will be keeping an eye on it...greg (the difference)
Yeah, what do a bunch of German engineers know anyway
He rides like a girl anyway so it will be fine, but you know he will claim to know better....
They know how to take your money. That's for sure.
Chris Harris would know. 👌👌
Thats max pressure for passenger and max tire life. Not max grip
@@bhok1971 so you think this guy rides hard enough to actually need lower pressures on the road, regardless of how fast he thinks he is? On the road I run much higher pressures then I do at the track. I am not slow on the road and I am fast enough to run in the fast (advanced) group on a 30 year old 250cc Honda NSR.
42 for solo riding is too much. Even if you weigh 80-85 kgs 37-38 should be the sweet spot.
its not to much at all
I'm 160kg and run stock pressure. After testing higher and lower pressures, I've stuck with stock
Did you say your tires only lasted 2100 miles😮. That is Horrid
Fast canyon riding and rough roads will do that. I can't even get 4k+ out of any rear tire on Texas roads for example but I ride hard and keep my rear around 36-42 psi with the exception of doing track/twisted sisters canyons.
that what happens when you low stupidly low pressures
@badgerman23 It's not stupidly low if you're a fast rider needing grip 😂. 36/42 will definitely cause handling and performance issues taking canyons fast.
@@ganuvien Thats stupidly low for road riding, so much so your tyre is nearly under inflated.
36/42 does not cause handling issue at all, sure it's less grippy but you increase tyre life.
He's not a fast rider so there is 0 need for him to be that low
@@badgerman23If he's really up that level, S23's are not a good choice. They are fine for the odd trackday, but they are not intended to be used to their treshold continously.
Supercorsas would be the better option and will take low pressure far better. But like you, I think his low pressures are kind of non-sensical.
Lad you are not at the level of riding where you will notice a difference in traction, really all you will notice is faster turn in.
100000000s of miles under your belt yet you lack the basic under standing of tyre mechanics
100% agree with this comment...
Faster turn in, but also a stiff response, less feedback.... Everything you don't want when riding the streets. But all the Beemer rider aids may possibly compensate for that. 🤷🏼♂️
I’m sure you’re so much faster and more knowledgeable, cuck. 😂🤡
@@ganuvien sigh, most road users in europe roll with that pressure and 90% are faster than your americans
@@ExquisiteLee-o6y I'll take that trade off for tyre life, I'll keep my faster riding to the track lol