Right Way VS Wrong Way Memorize Fretboard
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A great way to help memorize the fretboard is to recognize patterns.
The whole pattern repeats at the twelfth fret no matter what tuning you're in.
The fourth and fifth of the scale are found on the 5th and 7th fret of that string. Since the pattern repeats at the twelve fret, they are also found at the 17th and 19th fret.
Memorizing one string at a time in a random way like this is perfect because you can change tuning and it'll be easier to quickly adapt.
and you can do one scale at a time, on each string. this way you'd memorize out the notes within a scale too. simple logic is actually genius
What I really like about the method you outlined is that it doesn't just focus on note names, but on intervallic relations. While it's important to know the note names, it means nothing if you don't know how those notes work together and how they fit into a scale or chord.
@@GumballMachinery Precisely.
Then you'll just have to deal with the relationships between the strings.
So in Standard Tuning (EADGBe):
E-A= 4th
A-D= 4th
D-G= 4th
G-B= Major 3rd
B-e= 4th
In DADGAD Tuning:
D-A= 5th
A-D= 4th
D-G= 4th
G-A= Major 2nd
A-D= 4th
These relationships are the same running down the entire fretboard. So fret 5 will have the same relationships as fret 19 (in each respective tuning).
Ideally you memorize the notes so that you can jump in to anything from anywhere, and you memorize patterns so you can do work quickly once you're established without necessarily needing to keep track of note names.
I just imagine a piano overlay on the fretboard. Way easier to memorise notes on piano.
The most efficient way in my experience is to just memorise the notes on the dotted frets, then quickly identify the others based on their relation to the dotted frets. You can learn the fretboard REALLY quickly this way
Oh! This one actually sounds good, thanks!
Damn I thought i was the only one!
@@samsingh5202that’s how I did it too.
Thanks ill try that
Can you elaborate slightly on the relationship of the dotted notes?
2 bars back... that a name for a band...
Bro, we gotta do this method with the ABCs on god I go through it every time just to see if S is before Q or after it
Underrated comment 😭😭
Same I literally have to go through the entire alphabet when trying to remember what comes after a letter
True, though realistically there isn't any particular purpose for the arrangement of the alphabet so it's kinda superficial
I figured them out from the counting, but made sure to memorise them, seems to have worked out
Brandon: Do NOT memorize the fretboard in order. It will slow or halt your progress.
Also Brandon: Memorize the fret board in order, one string at a time.
Doesn't the website he shared show up random notes in a different order?
No, he’s advocating for memorizing the notes/frets randomly on a single string as that can be more manageable than for all six at once
@@bissemgill475 I know lol. I’m just talking shit. 😂 I’m a drummer, not a fretboard God, but I can say with absolute certainty that if he says (anything guitar related) is best, then more than likely, it’s what’s best.
I thought the same thing at first. The difference is that instead of doing reps over and over of counting off notes from top to bottom, you only do it once, and then find them at random
Another method is to play the same note from left to right for example A. You play A open, then G 2nd fret, 5th fret on Low and high E, 7th on D, 10th on B and then do it backwards and then find A in each string in a descending order.
that’s what he’s saying but for the whole guitar right? (play all the As, then all the Es etc)
I think ima pick up my guitar again
What? 😂
What I do is I come up with a three note lick and I try to invent other licks using the same notes at four different places of the fret board. This forces me to try to remember my notes and fretboard in a different way every time I practice.
This is a cheat code lol
Also I found this helpful. What I’m doing is, 1.) I pick one note( like E) 2.) By ear, I try to find all the E notes up and down the fret board. 3.) I visualize, when I pick the note, the letter E . That way I’m associating that sound with that letter. I would give yourself time( like a month.) or however long it takes, until you feel really confident that you know where all the E notes are. It actually works! You won’t really need to do it for ever single note but, I recommend doing at least it. I’m self taught and still aren’t where I’d love to be but, if you’re like me and can’t afford guitar lessons there are many things you can do to learn. I found a few books to be extremely helpful like, Hal Leonard Scale Finder very helpful and Uncle Tim’s Building Blocks helpful as well. That book is a series of 3 books. The first one is Uncle Tim’s First Year. The second is Uncle Tim’s Building Blocks and the third is uncle Tim’s Book of Chords. You can find Hal Leonard’s books at any guitar shop or on line. The Uncle Tim’s books, I’d go on line for. Best of luck to all the newb’s and for all the aging novices out the keep at it man!!😃🤙
I've been doing this for the past 2 days and I can tell you it has been the most helpful exercise I've done so far
How to use the website
Do this along with learning triads, the triads will help you develop an understanding on where the root note is and this will help you find the note on the string
This is good advice too lol. Although it boils down to "fuck around until you somehow internalize octaves" and its correct. Guitar is such a fun instrument lol.
Normally your advice is pretty good but this is the most helpful vid of yours I've seen so far. Thanks very much
The first one i understand and i can use
As a professional guitarist for 24 years. This dude drives me nuts.
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All these youtube teachers have got people being so cerebral that they end up too busy thinking about it, to become instinctive about it.
Good for you
@@NarfireVA Thanks Mate!
i agree with you as an professional musician, all these yt guitar gurus got the right spirit but the constant flow of whats right and whats wrong is confusing at best.
I learned years ago as he said the "bad" way. It works just as fine
I learned it almost the same so I learned every power cord on the e and a string and use the pentatonic scale and go down 3 over 3right to find the same note and if your note is on the b or e string move it over one / 3 down or 4 just follow the pattern of the pentatonic scale that’s how I learned every note on the guitar and every fretboard and if you learn how to do this you could learn the bass guitar after because it’s the same as the first four strings of a regular guitar helpful tips and also I’ve been playing guitar since 2019 and I’m 16
Fun fact: the video of his student is of the student getting every note wrong. He’s naming each note a half-step lower (student says F, but plays F#). It’s probably due to an audio compression issue, but it’s kinda silly.
Damn...
no he’s paying it right… has to be a recording thing
but I can’t tell if he’s playing the wrong notes by ear. I don’t have that talent
Maybe his guitar's tuned in a weird way.
Wow just seeing this now, Brandon. Thanks for the feature!
That's a really helpful tips
Memorize the fretboard using the 6 octave shapes
Your vids are super helpful m8. I'm realizing a lot of my practice routine fookin sucks
Always love the “now just leave” part🤣
Absolutely right.
Thanks 😊
Sir, you are awesome!! Huge respect from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 thanks for your advice to improve the practice system that we the beginners made mistake all time!! ❤
Great tip Brandon, thanks!
Gonna use this awesome advice
This is actually great advice
I've been doing this for years now and didn't think anything of it. I probably do a few things that I'm not even aware of, which can be cool, but I'd like to be able to identify and recreate what I'm actually doing. 😂
Saw this a month ago and it really works very tedious but what matters is it works they don't all gotta be fun ❤
I found that memorizing intervals is better than individual notes.
Damn. This was informative even for a quickie
Thank you Brad i love you
Thanks so much. You are my second teacher.
😂 Who even thinks of notes when improvising? Vocalise a melody and recreate it with your guitar.
This will save you time and get you into composing and learning new things will be a walk in the park because you know how it sounds.
How did any of us learn to play before your genius enlightened us?
Love your videos
Please be lying
A method I used to memorize the fretboard in two weeks and it stuck with me for almost a decade.
Improvise a mode one string, repeat for every string. After two weeks I could find any note on my guitar with little thought. Because of this i was able to learn my drop 2 chords in one week.
what do you mean by a "mode"? could you explain? your method sounds interesting
Teach me bro.
Ok! I’ll go! Geeez thnks 4 th tip
I need this thanks
Thats clever. Thanks
As somebody who uses the first method, it does in fact work. Sometimes this guy just says something for the sake of saying it.
That is such a nice tele.
It was easy for me to do this once I discovered octaves when I was 12. It's easy when you think of it as if the entire guitar starts over a few times
Spot on
That's so true ,unfortunately almost every guitar player learn the Notes in the wrong way😢
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A third method is just to use your ear to find the right note. Then you memorize the scale, and then expand the scale slowly to add all the missing notes. The second method was just memorizing the scale, then copying it above the 12th. I personally find that each person learns a different way. There is no right way or wrong way, there is only the ways that works best for the player.
what i did was utilise the CAGED method of chords and memorise the roots. so if i fret at 7th fret g string, i know it's a D note because a barred A shape at 5th fret creates a D chord and it goes by octave
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I kinda made my own way i call it CEF
Take standard tuning EADGBE
And since E repeats twice you dont have to rememeber the high e
Remember that a octive repeats every 12th fret
And go by the WWHWWWH
But you use The notes C, E, and F as markers/way points, i can make a video to explain it if yall want
So let's say if you wanna find A on the low E in standard Tuning, we know that C is the 8th fret, and if you go back by 1, it will go from C, B, A# and then A, you then end up at the 5th fret
If you want to find A from F, you can remember low e, so the F is the 1st Fret, go up by one. F, F#, G, G#, A. You end up at the fifth fret
It gets easier once you fully comprehend WWHWWWH
Or just memorise the c major scale through the whole fretboard, that way you know every note you don't know on the fretboard is going to be a semitone.
Danke mate
A genius
Maybe it’s jus me but I don’t know any music I know a couple scales and go with the feel of it. Classical music and music as a whole is easy to understand it’s training your ears, putting physical representations makes it complicated
I remember by numbers
This guy's on cigarettes again, I see...
I put the note map stickers on my guitar first to see how it all connects and slowly peeled them off as the muscle memory got better.
I keep them on a spare guitar I use for writing sometimes
The right way is just think about it one time and never forget
Sorry, it’s really important to know where your half steps, (B to C and E to F), are so it’s best to start with the first method IMO. This will be the most logical route for most students who want to understand the fingerboard. Start with # notes, then talk about enharmonic equivalents eg. F# is also Gb. Better to UNDERSTAND what you’re doing rather than just relying on rote memorization.
I play wind instruments too so I already got it 👍🏾
“Clearly no bias here”
Learn to play E minor pentatonic in the 5 CAGED positions from the open position to repeating that same form at the 12th fret.
I actually add in one other note which is G#, the major 3rd of the chord.
Then I play E7- D7(2nd fret)-C7(5th fret)-A7(7th fret)-G7(9th fret).
Now, besides learning the NAMES of the notes, it’s even more important to learn the NUMBERS of the notes.
By that I mean, find the roots, the minor thirds sliding up to the major 3rds, the 5ths, and the b7’s of the chord from within each position.
After you’ve learned the locations of all of the E7 chord tones (E-G#-B-D) within each position then find the 2-4-6 and b5’ s.
Finally find the b2-b6-7 as they are going to be the least useful but still playable as chromatic passing tones.
1) the 5 CAGED shapes and 1-b3/3-5-b7’s from within each position (E-G/G#-B-D).
2) Find 2-4-6-b5’s or F#-A-C#-Bb’s.
3) Find b2-b6-7’s or F-C-D#’s.
Count and you’ll see that’s all 12 notes by both name and by number from within all 5 CAGED positions in only the key of E.
Now, just like you use a capo to move ideas around, do the same in all 12 keys.
I would go in this order of keys:
E-A-D-G-C, F-Bb-Eb-Ab, Db-Gb-B.
😮 I'm not sure I understood everything, but enough to see it's valuable information. Thank you so much
why E minor first? Why not A minor pentatonic and then build move to the next key in fifths that way you progressively learn and take in the sharps and flats.
On the rare occasion I attempt to solo I just pick one of the few scales I know and use that since the pattern for the scale’s the same. I pick a root, what sort of scale I want, and apply that pattern across the board and BAM improve solo that doesn’t sound too bad (though proper practice is the best way ofc)
I hate the way you yell at me 😭 but I gotta give it to you, great food for thought. Never thought about fretboard memorization or visualization in that way. Good stuff 🙌
this was a challenge but i enjoyed it nonetheless
My teacher also says that and now i Can remember Them kinda
Funny guy lol
Makes sense
Don't go to the description guys 😂
i started learning from the 1st string then made my way down and used octaves as a shortcut to find the notes faster.
I've never logged the time it takes before and I'm hoping it's more motivating than only using the metronome.
Do both
well that makes sense then..been doing the wrong method for a few years lol
how i learned was i used to take piano and i learned every note and i just act like the fret board is a piano it works really well
My advice: learn the natural notes and where they are. When you need to sharp or flat them you make the propper adjustment.
I memorized the fretboard of my bass by trial by fire, I joined the school jazz band with no knowledge on the note positions (I already knew how to read bass clef) and played until I learned how to read sheet music and know the notes.
The most proper way is probably to practice sight reading of easy melodies in all keys.
Is that a Richie Katzen sig tele? Very cool either way.
Not knowing his notes made joe satriani kick Steve Vai out lol
True story joe told him he has a week to learn all the notes on the fretboard
When Steve was satches student ....after the week was uphe said play an F# on the B string
Steve couldn't find it satch said lesson over
N wrote him a note saying if u don't know ur notes u don't know $***
never had a lesson, after 10 years of just dicking around on a guitar you know the right notes from the wrong notes
Learn where 1 note is everywhere on the fretboard, learn where all those octaves are and everything should fall into place.
Nah, I just call it "string 1 fret 1"
i play classical guitar for about 7 years, memorized the fret board with time but i first memorized the notes on the 5th 7th and 10th fret and you kinda build between them
I was about to leave but I have to read comments
It’s true. I still have to sing the alphabet song
You don’t need all that. Once you play for couple years you will just know. By ear.
That is one of the reason i dont do solo
I’m not leaving
The best way to memorize all the notes on the fretboard is to, err, just learn all the notes on the fretboard.
I counted up like that, then just got someone to point at random frets until I could instantly say. I don't think there's a "wrong" way, just the way that doesn't work for you.
Hang on I'm gonna give this a try. Immediately the problem I have is that there is no feedback so I don't know if I'm getting anything right or wrong. There's no comparison tone on the website and so no reference point. The only way of knowing if I am correct would be if I already know the notes on the fretboard which feels like a bit of a cycle. I'm obviously not using this tool correctly so any explanation would be appreciated.
Ive myself realized that on the E string, every few 1-2 notes follow the order of piano noted.
(Yes im a new guitar player)
I don’t count when I improvise. I play
Idk bro or just learn scale shapes and once you figure out how to connect two scale forms together youre just... good to go
I just used anki lol 😂
I remember the order to remember the note tho? Just think faster
Just play in 12 tones ever day major and minor… then go minor harmonic and melodic
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No. If you ever change to a different tuning everything you learned will suddenly be wrong. Learn intervals. Think in patterns, not individual notes.
Tgis is the same with memorizing alphabet from another language
I was doing it by like the theory of it like knowing there's a full step and half step the half's are one fret the full steps are a like whole note i was still going that too but was also doing that too like let's find all the C's for a while. Ok now let's find all the B's, ok now the A's and on all the way to G then learn the sharps and then flats after too
I agree with you most of the time. But who is thinking of what the notes are when improvising a solo ?? You're nailing them based on experience and positional relationship. The only time you are thinking about what the notes are is if you are transcribing said solo.