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Have you been to Milton Heights (converted farm) near Toronto? I made the mistake of dismissing reviews about ridiculous rules. They call themselves "family oriented" but they spy on you in a creepy way, censor websites (my daughter couldn't even log in to a video game) and fine guests for just about anything you can think of. The internet censorship was a first. I've dealt with weak signal, low bandwidth, throttling etc. This place BLOCKS websites. I'm not talking about adult content. Besides the gaming website, my daughter couldn't browse to Spotify, Netflix or social media! They claim their service can't handle streaming speeds. I know for a fact that isn't true. Felt like I drove into communist China instead of Canada.
Their park, they make rules. Why does that bother you so much, you have to make a big deal about it. They don't want your old rig. Sorry find different place. 😢
We were asked to leave an RV park due to the age of the rig. We moved back to Texas from NV and were looking for a property in a very small resort community in the Hill Country and it had been recommended to us by a family member. They reserved us a nice spot over the phone based on our referral. Once we arrived, they said we could stay the night, but would have to leave the next day. We were livid. No other places were available at the time, not even the state park nearby. Luckily, we stopped in at the local VFW and they offered to let us park as long as we wanted, no charge. Good people still exist.
That is BS! Wow. I have camped many places in CA and I have never experienced this kind of discrimination before and I live in an overwhelmingly regulated state. I had the oldest rig at Mission Bay in San Diego and really enjoyed ourselves there.
As a RV Park Manager I can only say, Sorry that that happed to you. So many parks are like that today. Our park we do not have age restrictions just condition restrictions "No Junkers" we allow dogs, we charge extra for them, however not for cats. We would be Proud to have you all stay at Our Park. Snake River RV Resort, Homedale, ID.
I don't understand why parks charge for dogs, you don't charge for kids so why do you charge for dogs, kids use the facilities dogs don't, they live in my house and I clean up after them, as principle I wouldn't stay in a park if they charged a fee for a dog. I'm 10 miles from PA and I don't camp at PA state parks for the same reason, I asked SP representative why and it's because people don't clean up after their dogs, it's always somebody else ruining it for others PEOPLE CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOGS.
You don’t want to stay at this park. They are showing you how difficult they would be during your entire stay. Thank them for warning you about how rigid they are and move on.
She would the first to complain about being sandwiched between two nasty old patched up RV's. She whined to the world about this issue while she included a sponsor in the video. She isn't helping you she is making thousands off you. She showed you that she is difficult and willing to post a one sided agreement and you gobbled the bait like a large mouth bass. Hope this help you navigate through this not what is always seems world of making money off of unassuming sheep.
I am a full timer in a 38 year old class A. It is a one-off build Country Coach diesel pusher with a turbo Cat 340 and driving it is so fun. SOLID walnut throughout (NO veneer or fiberboard), Corian countertops with walnut inlays etc. It sits on a Gillig bus chassis and has only 70,000 miles. Very well cared for with no oil or hydraulic leaks. It is a beautiful classic inside and out . TRY finding an RV park in Reno, Nv and be honest when you tell them your Coach is 38 years old. I keep striking out because of their "policies" but they never detail why they turn me down. I'm sure it's the dreaded 10 year rule. I'd put my CLASSIC COACH up against the NEWER KRAP that is being made anytime! (P.S.- the man that started Country Coach went on to build Prevost, and we all know how nice Prevost's are).
We met a couple, at a campground that had just done a major remodel on a Class A. It was pointed out by the guy that helped them that they even upgraded the paint job by a few years! For our trailer it’s mistaken for a year or two newer because we had damage done to the lower edge and they suggested using the lower skirt design over that area, but finish it by making the rest match. Turns out those skirts were a couple of years newer.
Decades ago our truck camper broke down. On a weekend. The campground, in Fairbanks, AK, even helped manually push the thing into a spot and allowed us to stay the weekend. Monday AM, we called a tow truck and were towed to the local Ford dealer for repairs. Simpler times. Helpful people.
Our 5th wheel is 2 years old but when we are requested to send pictures and state the age of the RV...we just move along! For the same reason I won't live in an HOA, I refuse to give my money to a discriminating business.
We’re traveling with a 2011 well maintained class A. I think my reply would have been: “Since you operate such an exclusive RV ‘resort’, we would not feel welcome there. I will definitely take my business elsewhere and urge others to do the same.”
Yep. We were denied due to our 2008 Fleetwood Terrace 36T in Fairhope, AL. Now that we have upgraded to a 2019 Tiffin Allegro RED 33AA, we are denying them the chance to meet us.
The "elite" attitude of campgrounds will not change until it hits their pocketbook. I totally support revealing all the good and any of the bad that is encountered with a campground, especially during the reservation process. Tell us who the "good" ones are and never omit the problems. That way we can decide where to spend our money! Many thanks for a great channel!
Same. I really don’t like hearing about this, makes me want to buy 40 acre parcel and make my own campground ⛺️ Most of the places I have camped up and down the coast of CA have a tent area, I wonder if this is a indicator for weeding out the snobbery weeds
I think when an RV park has shity catch 22 procedures, you should not be shy about naming the park. A few snooty RVs might appreciate the and head for the park. I think most of us would avoid them like the plague. Keep up the work. HAPPY New Year
Our goal wasn't to disparage the campground but rather bring attention to outdated policies that need changing. PLUS not wanting to give them ANY publicity 🤨
@@GratefulGlamperI think another email is in order… Send them a link to this video! They might think you would call them out… but you have been more gracious then I might have been🤷♀️
New to your channel. Since they reached out originally and had policy’s such as vehicle age, family and pet restrictions, do you think they were looking for confrontation resulting in free publicity? Just a thought. I like how you handled it and did not share their name.
Oh, I would definitely disparage them, I hope they go out of business!, I have ran into the same pet count issues, seems they follow a generic policy they got from another campground and not from a experienced incident. How ridiculous! Love watching you guys! Best of luck
I completely understand if you have an RV that is duct taped together or a very big eye sore, but it really rubs me when parks exclude RVs because they only want newer RVs in their park!! If you have a well maintained and clean unit, you shouldn’t be restricted!! They are certainly NOT worth staying at! Happy New Year!!🎉❤
It's as if those with newer RV's have 'new' money! The face value of a dollar is the same whether new or much older, so turning away customers truly is not a good business proposition! As many have said, if completely unkept, that's a different matter! Our 15 year old coach is well kept, to where I've had people ask if it's new! But the 10 year rule some have, is truly discriminatory, and not a place I would want to spend my money in anyway!
I’ve been to several/many camp grounds were people were living full time (or at least the camper is always there) and they start to make the place look trashy.
Thing is, the overwhelming majority of camps are private businesses and they are entirely within their rights to refuse service so long as it’s in accordance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Act only protects people based on race, nationality, etc. In other words, the businesses are the entitled party in this scenario. Potential customers are entitled to absolutely nothing.
I have to say I also think age restrictions are outdated. I have a newer class A and was stranded on our first trip when electrical issues caused battery drain to the point we couldn’t go anywhere till it was fixed. Age is no indication of reliability. So sorry you had this experience.
I'll give you credit, I'd name them full out because this is absolutely unbelievable and unreasonable for the campground , I agree it was like they were actually trying to find a reason after a while
It sounds like their marketing person probably sent out invites to any RV TH-cam channel but failed to actually pay attention who they were sending to. Your RV looks so much newer than it is. I agree....if you drove it in, you would be able to drive it out in case you all had to evacuate. As far as the cats, you were honest with them and got punished for it. By the way....I love your channel and have learned so much from you!
Yes, I think of all the post-Covid brand new RV's that get to their first destination, then break down, not starting, levelers won't retract, sliders won't retract, etc.
"...you were honest with them and got punished for it." When a peace officer pulls us over for speeding, do we expect them to let us off because we admit it? Sense of entitlement is rampant in today's society. Acknowledge the issue and be prepared to deal with the consequences (like Charity did when offering to have someone kitty-sit). Then if someone shows grace and mercy we can be thankful for it! But expecting someone to ignore the rules for us is simply wrong. Charity wasn't "punished" for it, and she shouldn't feel she is being punished. She was expected to follow the rules like everybody else. That, in itself, is a form of respect shown to Charity! It is a shady thing to hide in the shadows, make deals under the table, and then hope nobody notices. Do we break the rules when we think others won't notice? Transparency and integrity are rare things these days. Kudos to Charity!
Age discrimination should never be a 100% deciding factor. How many times have brand new rigs failed! It sounds to me they reached out blindly and had to back peddle when they realized you weren't the "demographic" they want to draw in. Shame on them
I work at a campground The issues this last year were from USER errors! It doesn't matter the year of the RV it's people thinking they know what they are doing and not willing to ask for help! Hands down
We live in our 2004 fifth wheel and have been full time since 2009. . It is in excellent condition. I always read the campground rules before I book a reservation. I will not book at any park with HOA rules. In 1972 a full timer told me the best parks are old fishing camps. That holds true to this day. Safe travels.
We started to bring our two dogs and two cats with us camping. We have a 40' fifth wheel and whenever we book, we make sure to tell them we have 2 dogs and 2 cats. Every time we've mentioned the cats, we've been told, "Oh, we don't usually count cats since they rarely go outside". It seems real odd that they would count the cats when, literally, NO ONE else in the campground is even going to see them. I'd be surprised if there aren't other campers who do have cats inside their RVs and the campground is just not aware of it.
Our 5th wheel is a 1998. Travel all over the country with it. Never been turned away even pulling it with a rusty truck. We have started boondocking, helps save on costs, and you meet a lot of great people.
Actually, looking back, it's a valuable experience with the conclusion that it's best to stay away from a campground like this. Our RV is also 20 years old, well maintained, and frankly better than newer RVs with the poor quality produced today. FYI : if a 20 year (or so) old motorhome is well maintained is something you can most times see easily from the outside. If it's reasonable clean and everything looks in good order incl. tires, lights, etc. it's a very strong sign the owner keeps engine & chassis also in top running condition. Newer RVs (e.g. built after 2008) often have worse quality and new RV owners often fail to to the regular upkeep work and often think the rig is newer so what can go wrong.
My wife and I just returned from a 4300 mile trip in our 2004 30b Winnebago Sightseer. I helped out more folks with fairly new RVs and our unit did the whole trip without any problems whatsoever. I think these parks should start rethinking some of these policy's and look on a more case by case solution. We are both in our 70s and your experience would cause a reall hardship towards someone like ourselves. Thanks and wishing y'all happy travels. D&M
I had to shake my head over your experience! While we haven’t been turned away, a Thousand Trails campground in Fort Myers almost turned us away, upon check in, because our Siberian Husky weighs 85 pounds and their weight limit was 80#! We had to bring him to the office, so they could meet him and it took them 20 seconds to see he’s mostly fur (like yours), and he won them over with all his kisses!! But, the kicker to this place is they required you to fill out paperwork, provide a doggie poop sample and pay $25 for an “analysis” fee.They send the sample away and IF they find doggie poo not picked up, they submit the offending sample for analysis. If it’s deemed from your dog, they have a significant “fine”! WTH? Crazy people run this campground!!!! But, it doesn’t stop there. We inherited a condo in Clearwater Beach FL that we offered for use to my niece and her husband, while they got established, after their move from Long Island. When my MIL bought the condo, it was pet friendly, but over the years, they changed the bylaws. My niece has a service dog for disability support and the HOA board did everything in their power to make their life miserable. They accused her dog of using the elevator as its pee spot (later determined to be an elderly adult confused male), accused her husband of not cleaning up after their dog, even though my niece and service dog had not been on site for 3 weeks AND the size of the deposited poo was clearly from a dog much larger than theirs! The final straw was when they approached my niece and asked her to use the stairs vs. elevator to our 4th store condo! She had the best response! She said if I could WALK 4 flights of stairs, I wouldn’t need a service dog! There were so many more incidents I can’t list them all here. We threatened legal action as their abuse was abhorrent and illegal. They left and we sold the unit. FL is lovely, but any HOA or administrative group run by older individuals seem to have an axe to grind and have lost any sense of reality. Sorry you experienced the “rejection” but you indirectly won the campground lottery not staying there!!
Why would that upset you if you clean up after your dog? There's a reason they had to resort to those measures. Don't like it, go enjoy the wonders of an rv campground that doesn't mind dogs pooping everywhere.
YES I wanna know which RV park in Tampa does this! I don’t want to stay there!!! If they don’t share it then I will avoid all parks in and around Tampa. There are always harvest hosts in that area.
why even make a video about a bad experience before going to the RV Park if your not going to say what the name of the park then. i guess i would not be planing to go down to Tampa at all.
Many RV campgrounds in canada discriminate based on age, but condo and apartment complexes do too. A few years ago, a relative was living in a 45+ condo building here in Edmonton, Alberta. Her minivan was a few years old and did not leak oil. She ended up in a 3 year battle with the condo board gestapo, with condo members pouring fresh motor oil on her assigned parking spot, and vandalizing her vehicle (security cams "missed" each instance). She even had a large custom shelf with sides installed under the oil pan (after the condo president got under her vehicle and punctured the oil pan or something with a screwdriver - to "prove" her vehicle was leaking oil). The vehicle, with the modification, literally couldn't leak oil. Then, the condo board demanded letters from the auto mechanic. Then they decided to go after her for pre-existing stains on the (unsealed) concrete parking space. Stains listed in the pre-move in rental inspection. There was no end to it, and she was glad to move out. Those types of people are absolutely out of their tiny minds!
As an owner of a well maintained Class A motorhome that is stored indoors which is 2 years older than yours, and was 14 years old when I bought it in 2016, I agree with you entirely on this 10 / 15 / 20 year old rule mentality. I feel the chances of my coach not being able to leave under its own power a few days after arriving is no greater than say for a 5 year old coach. In our 20,000 thousand miles of travel around the US over the last 7 years, we have experienced exactly one incident where we were not able to leave a campground as planned (starter solenoid failed), this was repaired within a few hours after a trip to a nearby auto parts store, and is something that could happen on a newer RV as well.
If a hurricane is coming, you tend to have about a week or so to get your RV out. And then purchasing a large motorhome is a long term investment. Not something your going to trade in every few years. Unless you can buy a $200,000 plus Class A outright, your going to be financing it for close to 10 years. Don't know how many years typical RV financing is for, so just guessing.
@@trevorbryant4360 As someone who has lived through multiple major hurricanes, I can tell you that you really don't know where they are going to hit a week out, you just know there is a chance of one. At a week out the uncertainty cone often covers 400-500 miles of coastline, while the actual intense part of the storm may be 30-40 miles across. You only really know where it will hit at 24-48 hours out, at which point the winds are likely already gusting to the point where driving a high profile vehicle is dangerous itself. As to financing 20-30 years is common on RV's
@@MrPenguinLife Still, if your in hurricane season, you will want to maintain your RV so you can still leave if needed. The 20-30 year financing really makes these age restrictions even more dumber. Think the campground is really using hurricanes or age as an excuse too protect a "high-end" campground image.
Why would the campground be legally liable if a person's motorhome is mechanically unable to leave in the event of a hurricane? That makes no sense. The campground would be liable for its negligence only. It is up to the motorhome owner to make certain that their vehicle is properly maintained and operational.
Yep, RV age restriction has been used to be declined us twice over the years. Our RV is now a 23 year old Prevost bus. We are visited by "orbiters" (people checking out our bus walking around it usually while taking pictures) at most campgrounds we stay in. We've had a few campgrounds that initially declined, but we sent a picture of the bus and were accepted. Sometimes a manager became involved. It is the campground right to set rules. It is our right to go somewhere else.
Of course all places have rules nobody is disputing that, however on their approach those rules should've been made clear and they should've been upfront with them about same said rules in the very beginning. The amount of back pedaling they did and the unnecessary stress they caused is what is being questioned here. Places like these are just glorified HOAs.
Don't folks realize a 23 year old Prevost is built better than many of these new rigs on the road today? I have a 1979 Shasta Class C, I'm the fourth owner and I love my old gal. She gets lots of attention because she has custom paint and lots of upgrades, compliments of my father, the second owner. I have never been turned away but I also don't stay in resorts, I'm a small Mom and Pop campground kind of gal or I boondock since I'm self contained. I know my classic RV isn't everyone's taste but those that do definitely let me know when they see me out and about traveling and it's a great feeling.
You are believing everything she said. She not only disrespected humanity by uploading a whiny child reaction video but also including a sponsor and you don't even recognize that she played you. The story could be all fiction. It is about the sponsor and making money. Who else is fooling you in your life that is the question you should be asking yourself. Hope this helps you understand the world a little bit better @@JennyJenner-w5x
I couldn't imagine accepting a unsolicited invite and only to find out upon arrival they wouldn't accept and allow me to stay at their campground?? After all I drove a number of miles at 7 or 8 MPG. And countless miles off my plotted course!! I just want to thank you for the heads up on Tampa&Sommerset areas to stay away from!! My money spends just as good everywhere else!!!
This is all craziness! First of all, we traveled with three cats for years (and we are now down to two) and we have never had to hide any of this information from anyone before. Sometimes, there has been a limit of 2 pets, but I have always mentioned that there are three cats and no one has mentioned anything at all about them. One of the cats loves to spend time outside on a leash when we are with him; and they both enjoy going for a ride in their pet stroller. I don't see how anyone can even begin to compare the impact of dogs versus the impact of cats at a campground! The age of our RV came into play at an RV campground near Portland, Oregon a few years ago. When making reservations, they didn't even ask about the age of it; but I'd heard rumors that they had such a policy. Not wanting any last-minute surprises, I brought up the subject and was immediately told we could not stay there. I offered to send current photos, but there were NO exceptions, I was told. But in a funny twist of fate, we had friends staying there that wanted us to come visit them, and they vouched for our RV (sight unseen, by the way) and the owners welcomed us with open arms! At this point I'd like to mention that it was the worst RV campground we've ever stayed in. The sites were practically on top of one another, the campground itself was wedged between two freeways so the noise was constant, and one fellow worked on his RV in the very early hours of the day, depriving us of any sleep. We are done with membership campgrounds. Sorry, Thousand Trails- after paying through the nose for many years, we were so disappointed that your Preserves began looking more like homeless camps than the lovely sites you once had. Coast to Coast left us "Orphan Members" after our last campground no longer wanted to be part of their program, and we were offered the "opportunity" to buy a new camp membership for over $11,000, across the country where we would never think to camp. We belong to one "smallish" campground group, and have about 8 campgrounds where we can travel; but the owners are such stingy jerks and treat their members terribly that they are losing members at a rapid pace.
I love older motorhomes. I'm a full timer in Canada. I've had a 1984 Class A and am currently in a 1996 Class A. After running into the age rule for the motorhome one too many times many years ago, I flat out gave up on using RV parks ever. I haven't used an RV park in years and don't intend to in the future. I am totally self sufficient and have saved thousands of dollars over the years. Hopefully this is the last time you run into the age rule with the motorhome.
Do national and state parks not let you stay ? I'm trying to get my dad to restore his 87 winnebego. And I want him to make it look like the original ( orange yellow green etc lol )
We ran into this rv age on the Oregon Coast. I think the campground is called Pelican something. We wanted to spend our 67th wedding anniversary and they turned us down because our RV was over ten years old. Needless to say we do not want to be where we are not welcome but rest assured I have told others about this policy.
Congratulations on your anniversary. It would have been so much more fun if they had welcomed you and thrown a little picnic party to celebrate your special day!
Funny how they couldn't break the rules for number of pets or age of your RV, but seemed to have no problem with the fact that you aren't over 55 years old. Love watching y'all, by the way!
Even in housing properties that are age restrictive, the properties are required to have a percentage available for any age. I think they got this channel mixed up with another, and instead of saying “oh my goodness, here’s what happened, we are SO sorry” they attacked the family and their rig instead. Thousand trails will never see a red cent from me!
@@valerief1231 I agree with the sentiment, but unfortunately the law you're referring to is commonly misunderstood. In order to qualify as a 55+ community, they are ALLOWED to have residents under 55, up to 15% of their total population (at least in FL). If less than 85% of residents are 55+, they lose their zoning/designation for that type of community status. It's not that they MUST accept that many, only that they CAN. HOAs often claim NO ONE under 55 can legally live there. That's a lie. It's only a problem if the 85/15% ratio is in play. As she says in this video, it's easier to reject everyone and hide behind policy than to consider applications on a case by case basis. It's really not a good way to do business, but in Florida, where so much of the population has this attitude, it's sadly common. Other laws come into play if an HOA rejects someone under 55, due to circumstances like disability, inherited property etc. No one should just accept "that's our policy" when it comes to where they can live. Get the facts, check your rights and go from there.
@@mandiexxi4522 I not sure how that applies exactly because the condo that I own has a stipulation that you can own but can't stay there unless someone over 55 is in the condo with you (makes me think it's based on ownership), or they're just trying to loophole law. They've been sued for age discrimination at least once that I know. They were hassling and trying to force out a couple under 55 (they looked to me to be in there mid-40's maybe early 50's). It's like these communities always have a issues with anyone they deem not worthy of addition to their "herd".
You're not getting the whole story in my opinion. They changed their mind along the way and then started making excuses. They reached out to you on your website that does show everything that will be coming with you and have watched videos....crazy. Makes zero sense except they changed their mind and then made excuses. I don't truly think it's over the RV age. It's a very nice looking RV and I can't tell it's that old. I commend you for not calling them out by name, but then there is that part of me that thinks they deserve a bad review since they did the reaching out.
You are the bigger person. You could be splashing the name of this park all over social media ( which is what I would have done. That's just me), but you didn't. Kudos to you! You handled this strange situation with grace. Good luck to you and your family with your future travels.
I give you major props for how you handled this. I would have at least called out the park by name. My wife and I are both 60 and at fortunately Florida is not a planned destination for us at this time If I knew the name of the Campground I would specifically avoid this campground. Time to make them famous. If you have completed a visit you would have likely given an honest review, the good, the bad the ugly.
I agree with you! It has been like this for a while! We have personally been denied from places because they said we have "too many kids" (while we were in a RV). We are now converting a bus into an RV so that limits us as well since many rv parks and resorts including Thousand Trails do not allow bus conversions, regardless of what they look like. I am hoping things will change, but we love boondocking too. ❤
You need to be RVIA certified for the campgrounds insurance so no they won't change on that. If you go that way just know where your BLM land is and have enough solar onboard. It's better than waking up next to ugly rv's and putting up with the people that live in the rv's, yes I live in an rv park the neighbors are always drunks or druggies (even in the adult only parks)
I'm torn. As a rental property owner, I have a no pets policy so everyone knows up front. Sadly, rather than being honest, like you were tenants tell me they don't have pets, then I find out from other tenants that they do.
A lot of these RV parks have insane rules that shouldn’t even be in place and don’t focus on the things that really matter. Glad you posted this love the honesty 😊
You should open a campground, we’d stay at it! While we have a newer RV, my husband and I agree totally. Understandable that parks want to verify the state and that everything is functioning but so many people renovate older ones like you did that many should be fine. If it’s truly the liability in an evacuation situation I wonder why they couldn’t have some sort of waiver for that. Good thing there are many other park options that will accommodate and be a better experience for your wonderful family.
We camp with our two cats. We never included them with our reservation because they never leave the camper. All their facilities are inside. They do have a few fans at different sites when they are discovered. It has never been an issue camping in Alaska.
It doesn't matter if the cat doesn't leave the camper, their POOP does and their litter waste does. Just like dog poop and doggie bags. That kind of waste adds up.
@@jenniferkopf7879 not sure I understand your comment. Their poop goes out with the normal trash. I don't think my cats have ever made so much waste that I needed to make a seperate trip to the trash for them.
@@AKben1775 Campgrounds are businesses that pay by the pound for waste removal. Each persona and pet - adds to that. In order to calculate how much removal service they will need annually, they need to KNOW how many are staying there. So, like I said...even if your kitty doesn't ever leave your trailer - their WASTE does and contributes to the expense of the park.
I fully agree with you. In fact, I can add that such restrictions are discriminatory against senior citizens. Senior citizens might have an older RV that they purchased years ago and cared for very well, but senior citizens are often on a fixed income during retirement and absolutely cannot afford to "upgrade" their RV. I'm not afraid to identify RV parks by name. I pointed out such discrimination to CalExpo RV Park in Sacramento, CA, which has a 10-year rule. Fortunately, they use discretion if you can provide evidence, and their requirements for evidence are extensive: photos of all 4 sides of your RV, photos of your valid registration that must match the guest's name, photos of your valid insurance that must match the guest's name, and photos of your license plates with valid registration stickers. I asked them how they ensure that all of these documents with personal information on them are kept secure, and they stated that they keep such records secure (what could I do but believe them? At least they're a state-sponsored organization, which could be a good or a terrible thing). CalExpo RV Park is a very decent bare-bones park with very nice staff. It's the neighborhood and area that are the problem. CalExpo really does have 24/7 security patrol (I heard them and saw them throughout the night patrolling), and they have a live-in host. CalExpo is literally about half the cost of the next cheapest private RV park in the area, which averages about $100 per night. I think the RV park that rejected you is simple-minded (inflexible) and discriminatory. I'm not sure why you won't name the RV park that rejected you, so that we could be warned, because it doesn't seem like you are saying anything but what you actually experienced. It's not slander. Many RV TH-camrs are completely open about the businesses they visit, and we really appreciate that.
I used to work at a campground that didnt do that, but i have heard of it happening, and this is why i dont make reservations at any RV PARK, alot of times its not just the campground but some of the guest staying there, they ARE the problem, not all are this way but there are some and those are the ones who ruin it for everyone, so i go boondocking just to avoid these ppl
Have a 2006 class A. Have taken very good care of it. If I must say so myself still looks new. We met some friends at a park in FL with the age restrictions, the park looked at it and gave us a site. Our friends had a brand spanking new one, not 3 months old, and 3 things went wrong with theirs, slide wound only come out so far and stop, water issues, and lastly it wouldn’t start when it was time to leave. Ours, not one problem! Our friends told us “ don’t get rid of your rig. It is built better and will last longer than the new ones!” Apparently they have had nothing but issues with their $400,000.+ unit. I understand not wanting a beat up held together with bailing wire one in the park. But like you stated the majority of us can afford to get a new RV every 10-15 years. I must say though that if this is a trend this will be our last rig. We will not play those snooty games. Keep up the great videos and information!
I made reservations for a rv park for the winter in Arizona last year. I told them I had 2 dogs. Right after I got there I got a notice that they only had a one pet policy. I went to the manager. Thankfully they modified their policy to allow my 2 dogs.
RV owners want your money. She is just a whiner or more likely the story is made up so that she can post a sponsored video. Although if I were a sponsor I would not want my company associated.
Are you accusing the poster of making up the situation? How cynical! They try to honestly share their experiences so others are aware of what can go wrong. Shame on you!
About 5 yrs ago I tried to make reservations at a park in Florida, first thing they asked, What year is your RV? We didn't qualify! Bunch of elitest snobs I say!
I can see how you feel you were used by this RV Park. Your exchange with them reminds me of the HOA nightmares I binge watched. Just thank your lucky stars you aren't being fined nor having your RV taken from you and go where you all will be truly appreciated.
Hi! I am a professional motorcoach driver and am in the process of converting one of our "Old Junkers" (a military surplus 1969 MCI MC-5 with a whole 120k miles on it), the bus cleans up like new and I can imagine the complaints I'll get for that one! Or perhaps I'll drive up in our oldest coach a 1963 GM 4106! Stumbled into your channel and I liked your story! I guess it explains why when I stumbled into winning a land auction for $1 that my friend wanted me to install a RV pad. Nearest neighbor is more than a mile away and it's in the mountains of northern Nevada. Perfect camping spot if you like the high country! I guess he hates dealing with picky RV parks (his RV is a bit older than yours is)!
When you said that it was at the Villages in Summerfield Florida says it all. The Villages are mostly a high dollar community with very strict rules. I used to have a home just outside the Villages, and I'd never consider living in the Villages. They rule the area with an iron fist.
I'm only 50 and live in the midwest, and even I have heard of the iron fist of the Villages (along with other Villages legends which makes me never ever consider retiring there).
I love that you give them ZERO publicity by name! My initial thought was let us know the place to avoid... but that's giving them free advertising! And our family isn't over 55 and we have 3 dogs so we wouldn't be welcome there either...
@@GratefulGlamperThough…. You do have a great platform and could hurt them greatly it would be justified. We once had a year membership with 1000 Trails (4 great homeschool kids, no pets, except a hamster) , and I really didn’t like that most people were very rude and snooty! We will never again have a membership.
Campgrounds can’t make different rules for different people. If they let the Grateful Glampers in, then someone with a junky 16 yr old RV, a dog and 2 feral cats who were turned away could then sue the campground for discrimination. Our laws and rules in America are not set on a case by case basis. It’s unreasonable to expect campgrounds, who often are understaffed, to be expected to constantly make these judgment calls. It’s easier and cleaner to just have ONE SET OF RULES FOR EVERYONE! If you don’t like their rules then go somewhere else. This is just another “victim” story. 🤦♂️
I think you're going to run into this run-around whenever you deal with the camping "resorts" whether they reach out to your not. We avoid them like the plague.
I’m not a part of the Rv community, but I am a new resident of the state of Florida. All I can say is that things are different here lol. I am continually amazed at the “rules” I have encountered I. This state is living in a different era and different world than the rest of the US!
It was like that when we moved to Texas twenty years ago. We heard the phrase, "See in Texas, we do things differently, " so much it became a running joke in our family. Oh, and it was always over something truly absurd, too. LOL
I have been to RV parks where people live month by month and have so much stuff around outside their RV they couldn’t move it if they had too. Crazy world
We have encountered a number of pet restrictions, 10 yr. RV age restriction, and many 55+ parks. We have never taken our cat, she's a barn cat, but have traveled with 3 dogs, one being a Rot mix. It's their parks and they can make whatever rules they want. However, the fact they invited you guys makes me doubt they had ever watched your channel.
I get emails ALL the time about looking for creative people like myself. I just delete & block. Hello, they are just sending out the emails to everyone. That's why they didn't know of your family situation.
Absolutely insane. I get why you didn’t but I’d be so tempted to name names here, I’m not sure I’d want to trust staying at a place that seems to be run by keystone cops. At any rate, regarding the kitties, we are relatively new to the scene and just took our cats with us for the first time last year. I didn’t mention them because, like you, I thought well, they don’t ever leave the camper, they don’t add any additional wear or tear to the facility so why would I? In my mind that is equivalent to declaring your bringing along an extra set of sheets! What difference does it make? Well, I sort of “let the cat(s) out of the bag when we were getting ready to check out and I mentioned how well our cats did on their first adventure and you would have thought I’d committed a Madoff level fraud on the place. I guess I was supposed to have paid an additional deposit for having pets like they were going to escape and wreak havoc on the place like it was a motel room or something. So now I just know to not mention them at all.
Im traveling in a new class A in Florida, right now, and any information on RV parks/resorts/campgrounds managed by flaky personnel is always good to know so to avoid.
There are many people buying older RV's and remodeling them and using them, my friend has a old Greyhound bus from the 1950's and I would put it up against to many 2023 models because the thing is so beautiful and it has a new computer controlled engine and everything else. He uses it as a home while he is racing at drag strips instead of staying at hotels.
Thank you so so much for pointing out this discrimination issue ( which is becoming more and more an issue across this country because of discrimination)
@@simonelliot3712 I'm afraid not there is rules and regulations yes but when it becomes to the discrimination and there is discrimination just because that way a certain group of people can associate themselves with the same I like people
@simonelliott3712...oh goober call me karen! You just prove my point every time you attempt to stifle anyone who is not goober ish, you know.... challenged.
@@annettegraves-s6v Nobody is trying to stifle you. What you're experiencing is the discomfort associated with the cognitive dissonance that results when you make yourself look like a dumb-dumb in front of everyone. But hey, at least, now you know.
Glad you’re using your platform to bring awareness to things like this. My wife and I will start our RV journeys in 2024. We are filling up on knowledge of all things RV. This help.
You want more whining "I was treated unfairly" like a child on a playground content. This is informative or entertaining? You know she included a sponsor and she makes thousands and tens of thousands of dollars. It is probably made up. If it were genuine and for your benefit would she include a sponsor? Hope this helps you understand how this works. Hope this comments helps you in life.
We have a 2001 American Eagle 40 foot diesel pusher. We have only been declined in 1 rv park in 8 months of travel from North Carolina to California. We were even approved at an age limit park in Breckenridge, CO ( with a photo) ...the park that rejected us is in Cabot, Arkansas...not exactly a popular destination. Lol. We also have an indoor cat...but I don't mention it as she stays in.
I'm glad that I watched this video (and subscribed, BTW), it was very enlightening. As we have a now 33 years old Foretravel, I can expect to be excluded from some locations, based merely on the age of the coach. It is very good looking, and after I do some cosmetic work, will simply be spectacular. The ONLY real negative for visiting campgrounds is that it does not have modern pollution controls, so that cold startups can be deisel stinky. When I select a site at a campground, I try to get the most remote spot, where the exhaust prior to our departure would be least likely to irritate or affect others. Edit: The contact you got regarding collaboration was probably sent by a marketing company, not through the campground itself. That would explain the disconnect between your very public situation and the HOA-like restrictions of the place this video is about.
It’s Florida. They have no trouble filling the park especially if it is not June through August. They also have the loudmouth elderly people who do not want (other people’s) kids and noise around. Try buying a condo in Florida if you are under 55 and you’ll see what I mean.
This whole video is a gem. Thousand Trails BY FAR had some the OLDEST RVs I ever saw staying there. In many cases they looked like they flat out had not moved in YEARS! Some even were vacant but obviously still staying there. So to turn away you and your family is the absolute biggest tell that they just were making excuses. We were turned away because of my family being over 6 people. Our RV was only 24ft at the time. We took up less space than the larger trailers and RVs, didn't use any of the activities in the park. Yet they told us we had to leave because they didn't support our style of family. We don't live in our trailer we camp in it 30 days out of the year max!
To the best of my knowledge Thousand Trails (I am a member) does not have RV age restrictions only that it must be in decent working condition with no obvious need of repair. Each park is individually managed and they can use their discretion. I've only been to a handful of them from CA to WA. Also some of them have permanent yearly paid for sites which explains why you might see vacant RV's that have been there a long time. They do you have a rule about the owner only being allowed to occupy it maybe 5 or 6 months out of the year.
The park that turned us away wasn’t a thousand trails park (we stay at TT parks often) but a private campground. Guess we will stick to the TT and state parks! Thanks for watching
Charity, you nailed it... we have a 13 year old RV... and this is insane.. these people realized they did not know who you were when they invited you. Thus, trying to find a way out... my opinion.
nope ... somebody probably pointed out the flood of "karen" complaints they would get, plus potentially a lawsuit - it's Florida after all! How DARE they bring that old hunka junk into the campground? Campground rules are becoming like HOA rules - Karen is gonna enforce them.
I agree they blindly reached out, and instead of being upfront that the marketing department made an error, they backpeddled... which I think is more harmful than owning up to a mistake.
Hubby and I are planning our 2024 RVing schedule as new RV owners. I am glad that you have brought this issue to our attention. Thanks for all your tips/tricks/musthave's and such!!!! Love it!!
IN AUSTRALIA there are NO restrictions on age or type of caravan or tent at camping parks - but usually a dog & cat limit. Fun fact though, there are no large American style RV's in Australia... we simply don't import them. So, you get (a) caravan (b) tent and (c) conversion of a truck into something you can sleep in or next to overnight. I thought the whole point of these places was a CHEAP and CONVENIENT stopover for people on the move who are on a budget. WOW, that is next level you have to have a fancy, expensive, late model RV to stay there - it's like asking people at Walmart to dress in black tie and tiaras.
My brother had his trailer in a park and when it passed from father to son they started to kick out older trailers, it was obviously just a case of the owner not wanting it to look run down. My brother got kicked two years later because he intentionally bought a fire damaged one than was well within the range, moved his to a new park first, and put that one in to break the lease. He still had to pay half a season because it took that long for them to find a legal excuse to ask him to leave.
I'm not in an RV yet, but in my research I have heard that there are a lot of parks that limit the age of the RVs. Most I have heard of limit them to cannot be more than 10 years old. I've heard that it has more to do with having RVs that look "junky" and old. Some people have said that if they send the park recent photos showing that their RV is in good condition (looking nice on the outside), the park would make exceptions for them. This case sounds like they just tried to mass invite channels to collab, but only older couples for the new park, and now they want out of their invite. Shady.
My wife and I live in a 1996 34' class A and we have never been rejected to a park even the ones that have a 10 year rule. We have been asked to send pictures however. We are both in our sixties but, we discovered we do not like 55+ parks. They just get a little weird to us.
Really, places think you need to buy a new RV every year!!! Even 15 years is ridiculous!! For many buying a large RV is a long term investment. Especially if our financing a $100,000 plus RV or for a Class A motorhome, your likely looking at $200,000 plus. You might be looking at 5-6 or more years to pay it off. I really think these campgrounds only care about their image and being able to show all new RV's. And many of these campgrounds are like camping in a Walmart parking lot.
Wow, this is so frustrating! I've gotten offers from RV parks and resorts too and my RV is older and more beat up than yours. I wonder if I'd have gone through the same thing. I've seen, from the hundreds of offers I've gotten that they blast offers to creators without really knowing who we are and what we're about. I've gotten the most ridiculous offers from perfume of the month clubs to fancy RV resorts (which are absolutely not my thing, I'm a boondocker). They should do their due diligence before reaching out to us, but they don't. What a frustrating experience. I'm sorry you had to go through all that. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching and for the comment! Yes, we get super crazy offers sometimes too. But why ask a family to come at your RV resort only to turn them away…? Wires were definitely crossed somewhere. Best wishes 💙
95+ % of our camping is in State, Federal and Provincial parks, who do not care. Once contemplated a private park an California and once I saw the "rules" decided Big Redwoods was a better choice. Found out from my sister that our family had camped there when I was 3.
I'm planning to start full time RVing this spring. I have a dog and 3 cats. I knew campgrounds might have breed/weight restrictions about dogs, but I wasn't sure about my cats. Like yours, mine would never leave the RV.
In the short time we’ve been RV’ing in our 2004 (same as you) we’ve run into this alot. Worse, having 3 dogs, who might I add, are certified water rescue dogs and therapy dogs who travel to teach-we run into this rule of 2 pet rule a lot.
One dog could be way more trouble than four dogs, it depends on the owner and dog. Your trained dogs getting shunned from campgrounds is a pity. Anyone who has been around a Newfie knows they are gentle, slobber, fur bundles.
I totally agree with Rv age. There are 2010s that still look brand new yet cost 30,000 and would be rejected. I’ve had area campgrounds, in a very rural area, turn us away with a 99 that we have redone while the entire campground is packed full of empty unmoveable trash that looks worse. One of which my grandparents stayed at seasonally for 10 years. Ridiculous really… btw always tell them about pets for fire reasons.
Funny, I just recently watched several video's about how worthless new RV warranties were and how many problems they had. (Lehto's Law) The suggestion was better to let someone else take the depreciation and work all the problems out. So much for new RV's being better.
Hello 😊 We admire your professionalism demonstrated in this video as the frustration of the “Exclusive (haughty)” Park representative is enough to make anyone’s blood boil😳! You guys are a pleasure to watch and we appreciate the time and effort you must put into making such EXCELLENT videos. Al and Cathy in Michigan. (25 ft Airstream).
Welcome to RVing in Florida. It all started in 2016 when fuel prices fell. Florida filled up and started raising prices. It is now insane. So parks can make any crazy rule they want and they can charge insane prices for a site.
We typically mention all of our pets... since we have a German Shepherd, a mix breed with some Pit in him and a cat. Funny enough, we have run into MORE issues with the German Shepherd, than the mix or our cat. As for the age restrictions... I feel like those should really kick in for long term residency situations. Even if you have a vintage RV, if you were able to drive it in and park it, like you said... there's a reasonable expectation that it's driving out in a week as well. Typically when I see RV's that I would wonder if they'd crumble to bits if moved an inch... they're ALL long term stay situations. We're a travel nurse family, so we don't bounce around a lot... typically it's a 3-6 month commitment! I 100% agree that it's insane to think I'm going to just up and buy a relatively new RV, every 8-10 years!
I've been on the fence about the RV age restrictions for the very reasons you've highlighted. I think you've helped me find the “policy” for our park that takes the middle road. RV Age plus exception criteria, all above board with no exceptions to the exception criteria. And then I have to get our attorney to find a replacement phrase for exception criteria because the courts wouldn't go exceptions to the rule and then enforce exception criteria.. Because it's no longer an exception. This lets us welcome the family or couple pulling that mint-condition Airstream or in your case, the well-maintained Class A motorhome. For pets, this is a tricky one. I ask that all pets be listed, but now I think I need to find a way to work our form to account for cats that's never leave the vehicle. Being blunt: dogs are a mixed bag. Even dogs that never leave the vehicle can be unruly. And some dog breeds are more talkative than others, with personalities that affect jist how talkative they are and reactive to noises/presence outside the vehicle. So maybe the contract wording should be about unruly pets and not number of pets? I'd love to hear some thoughts by others.
"On arrival at our campground If the photograph you appended to your booking application does not reflect the condition of the RV when we inspect your RV and your pets do not meet the description as submitted on the application we reserve the right to not accept your booking and to refuse you entry to the campground.. as per the T&C attached and ticked by you when you submitted your application on line or by mail or text." This is fair warning. You have already decided that any RV that has applied can be accommodated based on the information given.... but if they are lying..... refunds would have to be sorted out of course...
Dog restrictions should be by weight. Many senior citizens have toy weight dogs that weigh less than cats. They are not a danger to anyone, and like to stay next to their owners.
We tow with a semi truck (HDT) and an older trailer. Never had a problem until we tried to stop near Savannah GA. The owner told my wife NO and not just because we used a semi, but because he would not accept anyone that was a truck driver and would kick out anyone if he found out they drove truck. So we called the next place, found out they would accept us, but were booked, they put us in touch with a GA State Park that had room and we had a great stay. I rarely mention what we tow with, but had a feeling this time. I also never mention the age of our trailer, it does not look it's age, but can not be hidden, part of the model name 2000. I have had friends that use HDT's get told they are too heavy, but most places change their mind once they point out they weigh less than most Class A motorhomes and turn far shorter, actually shorter than pickups pulling same trailer. I have had some other campers say we should be banned for what we tow with and even a state park officer that wanted us out, but could not, nothing against trucks of any size being used. Now we can not stay at high end resorts and that is ok, not wanting to spend that much any ways.
Condition of the RV should take precedence over age. There are plenty of older RVs that are well-maintained and look terrific, especially some of the renovated RVs from the 50s and 60s.. Like you said in the video, it seems like they were looking for an excuse not to let you into the park. Personally, I think you should have named the campground. You were stating factual information about your interaction with them. You were in no way being malicious. Safe travels!
Wow, just wow… Sounds like the owners/managers have a disconnect with the marketing company. I can see requiring a photo but to have a hard rule is just ridiculous. Glad to see this video to show people that “stuff” happens even to well seasoned travel veterans. Adapt and overcome….
In Québec (Canada), we often see an age restriction for those that are seasonal at a campground. They stay there and their camper or RV is not expected to move all summer. They often like to have newer models. For travellers like we are, they do not have an age restriction because we will stay for a week or two maybe at the top. Often we like to explorer and not be based at the same place.
I’ve never heard of any camp ground having an age restriction lol I’m from the Midwest and we drive through the local camp grounds just because we love camping and love seeing other ppls set ups. And we see some pretty fire vintage campers. Love seeing the verity and character that comes with camping.
This is definitely a challenge with RVing. The 55 + thing makes it very hard to find a spot in the south. I understand there is a demand for those communities but there is also a demand for younger family setups as well. It is so funny that they reached out to you but then turned you down.
40 years ago there were many campgrounds that accepted pets and any RV age, just NOT kids….lol. I was 12 at the time, and remember my parents searching for campgrounds in Nevada and Arizona that would accept “little old (relatively new, actually) me”. At the time, this restriction was unheard of in Canada. That’s my little story about RV park restrictions…
Wow... just wow. We have 1 dog & 4 cats (cats never go outside the RV) & an almost 10 year old motorhome. Not sure we would want to stay there! That campground is just too restrictive. There's so many other gorgeous places & campgrounds to visit. Thanks for the video! We don't bother saying we have cats in our reservation requests. We had several experiences like that when we had a horse trailer w/LQ... but it was a bit odd thou we were traveling without our horses. The KOAs did let us in but many independent RV parks would not. We figure it's their loss! 😂
Thanks for your story. Pretty much informs us that this place is not a place that we would choose to stay at simply for their holier than thou attitude. Which raises the question . . . why be so discreet about their name?
Our goal with this video was not necessarily to trash these two campgrounds (they own two - one is a 55 plus in The Villages and one is in Tampa) but rather to bring awareness to the absurd policies these campgrounds (and many others) are enforcing. We have already received several emails from campground owners THANKING us for sharing our experience as it helps them in knowing how to BEST run their campgrounds. Thanks for watching and best wishes.
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Have you been to Milton Heights (converted farm) near Toronto? I made the mistake of dismissing reviews about ridiculous rules. They call themselves "family oriented" but they spy on you in a creepy way, censor websites (my daughter couldn't even log in to a video game) and fine guests for just about anything you can think of. The internet censorship was a first. I've dealt with weak signal, low bandwidth, throttling etc. This place BLOCKS websites. I'm not talking about adult content. Besides the gaming website, my daughter couldn't browse to Spotify, Netflix or social media! They claim their service can't handle streaming speeds. I know for a fact that isn't true. Felt like I drove into communist China instead of Canada.
Their park, they make rules. Why does that bother you so much, you have to make a big deal about it. They don't want your old rig. Sorry find different place. 😢
I think they wanted publicity from the reaction video but you did good by not saying the name of the park because they don’t deserve the publicity
We were asked to leave an RV park due to the age of the rig. We moved back to Texas from NV and were looking for a property in a very small resort community in the Hill Country and it had been recommended to us by a family member. They reserved us a nice spot over the phone based on our referral. Once we arrived, they said we could stay the night, but would have to leave the next day. We were livid. No other places were available at the time, not even the state park nearby. Luckily, we stopped in at the local VFW and they offered to let us park as long as we wanted, no charge. Good people still exist.
That is bullshit! But glad someone let you stay somewhere
That is BS! Wow. I have camped many places in CA and I have never experienced this kind of discrimination before and I live in an overwhelmingly regulated state. I had the oldest rig at Mission Bay in San Diego and really enjoyed ourselves there.
As a RV Park Manager I can only say, Sorry that that happed to you. So many parks are like that today. Our park we do not have age restrictions just condition restrictions "No Junkers" we allow dogs, we charge extra for them, however not for cats. We would be Proud to have you all stay at Our Park. Snake River RV Resort, Homedale, ID.
Thanks so much!
Oh I want to go there!
Love to have you here! @@sandydemars8100
I don't understand why parks charge for dogs, you don't charge for kids so why do you charge for dogs, kids use the facilities dogs don't, they live in my house and I clean up after them, as principle I wouldn't stay in a park if they charged a fee for a dog. I'm 10 miles from PA and I don't camp at PA state parks for the same reason, I asked SP representative why and it's because people don't clean up after their dogs, it's always somebody else ruining it for others PEOPLE CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOGS.
Loving Snake River RV Resort, Homedale, ID. God bless!
You don’t want to stay at this park. They are showing you how difficult they would be during your entire stay. Thank them for warning you about how rigid they are and move on.
Exactly
Agree!
I think this park is showing why they can’t get the RV ‘ers to visit.
Dodged that bullet.
She would the first to complain about being sandwiched between two nasty old patched up RV's. She whined to the world about this issue while she included a sponsor in the video. She isn't helping you she is making thousands off you. She showed you that she is difficult and willing to post a one sided agreement and you gobbled the bait like a large mouth bass. Hope this help you navigate through this not what is always seems world of making money off of unassuming sheep.
I am a full timer in a 38 year old class A. It is a one-off build Country Coach diesel pusher with a turbo Cat 340 and driving it is so fun. SOLID walnut throughout (NO veneer or fiberboard), Corian countertops with walnut inlays etc. It sits on a Gillig bus chassis and has only 70,000 miles. Very well cared for with no oil or hydraulic leaks. It is a beautiful classic inside and out . TRY finding an RV park in Reno, Nv and be honest when you tell them your Coach is 38 years old. I keep striking out because of their "policies" but they never detail why they turn me down. I'm sure it's the dreaded 10 year rule. I'd put my CLASSIC COACH up against the NEWER KRAP that is being made anytime! (P.S.- the man that started Country Coach went on to build Prevost, and we all know how nice Prevost's are).
We met a couple, at a campground that had just done a major remodel on a Class A. It was pointed out by the guy that helped them that they even upgraded the paint job by a few years! For our trailer it’s mistaken for a year or two newer because we had damage done to the lower edge and they suggested using the lower skirt design over that area, but finish it by making the rest match. Turns out those skirts were a couple of years newer.
So long as your camper passes as inspection that is all that should matter.
Decades ago our truck camper broke down. On a weekend. The campground, in Fairbanks, AK, even helped manually push the thing into a spot and allowed us to stay the weekend. Monday AM, we called a tow truck and were towed to the local Ford dealer for repairs.
Simpler times. Helpful people.
Different state, different people!
Alaskans are great
Alaska, where neighbors help each other survive!
It's really sad when even RV parks are going "profits over people."
Our 5th wheel is 2 years old but when we are requested to send pictures and state the age of the RV...we just move along!
For the same reason I won't live in an HOA, I refuse to give my money to a discriminating business.
Smart!
I agree 100%
Same, 2022.. 20 foot bumper pull and they wanted pics.. Yeah ..no F off.
@@Timw927 It's easy to spot the trailer park dwellers
ya you say that now. But when you pull into a campground full of crackhead RV's you'll understand why
We’re traveling with a 2011 well maintained class A. I think my reply would have been: “Since you operate such an exclusive RV ‘resort’, we would not feel welcome there. I will definitely take my business elsewhere and urge others to do the same.”
Great reply
Perfect reply!
Lots of these RV resorts are nothing but parking lots with hook-ups. We stayed at one, once. Not for us.
Well except they've already denied your business so taking it elsewhere is your only option.
It happened to us also in NH, Turtle Kraul. RV cannot be more than 10 yrs old. We have a BEAUTIFULLY well kept 2015 Tiffin Phaeton. Oh well.
Yep. We were denied due to our 2008 Fleetwood Terrace 36T in Fairhope, AL. Now that we have upgraded to a 2019 Tiffin Allegro RED 33AA, we are denying them the chance to meet us.
I love this response. 😂
lol lol
LOL, I'm sure they're just *heartbroken*.
I can hear them crying from here
That’s hog wash
When asked for a picture of my 25 yo motorhome, I sent a pic of Lucille Ball's Long, Long, Trailer. They welcomed us with humor.
Great idea!!!
love that movie
The "elite" attitude of campgrounds will not change until it hits their pocketbook.
I totally support revealing all the good and any of the bad that is encountered with a
campground, especially during the reservation process.
Tell us who the "good" ones are and never omit the problems. That way we can
decide where to spend our money! Many thanks for a great channel!
Same. I really don’t like hearing about this, makes me want to buy 40 acre parcel and make my own campground ⛺️ Most of the places I have camped up and down the coast of CA have a tent area, I wonder if this is a indicator for weeding out the snobbery weeds
I think when an RV park has shity catch 22 procedures, you should not be shy about naming the park. A few snooty RVs might appreciate the and head for the park. I think most of us would avoid them like the plague. Keep up the work. HAPPY New Year
Our goal wasn't to disparage the campground but rather bring attention to outdated policies that need changing. PLUS not wanting to give them ANY publicity 🤨
@@GratefulGlamperI think another email is in order…
Send them a link to this video!
They might think you would call them out… but you have been more gracious then I might have been🤷♀️
@@GratefulGlamper That's good of you. But they obviously don't watch your channel. Maybe someone will tell them.
New to your channel. Since they reached out originally and had policy’s such as vehicle age, family and pet restrictions, do you think they were looking for confrontation resulting in free publicity? Just a thought. I like how you handled it and did not share their name.
Oh, I would definitely disparage them, I hope they go out of business!, I have ran into the same pet count issues, seems they follow a generic policy they got from another campground and not from a experienced incident. How ridiculous! Love watching you guys! Best of luck
I completely understand if you have an RV that is duct taped together or a very big eye sore, but it really rubs me when parks exclude RVs because they only want newer RVs in their park!! If you have a well maintained and clean unit, you shouldn’t be restricted!! They are certainly NOT worth staying at!
Happy New Year!!🎉❤
It's as if those with newer RV's have 'new' money! The face value of a dollar is the same whether new or much older, so turning away customers truly is not a good business proposition! As many have said, if completely unkept, that's a different matter! Our 15 year old coach is well kept, to where I've had people ask if it's new! But the 10 year rule some have, is truly discriminatory, and not a place I would want to spend my money in anyway!
I’ve been to several/many camp grounds were people were living full time (or at least the camper is always there) and they start to make the place look trashy.
Thing is, the overwhelming majority of camps are private businesses and they are entirely within their rights to refuse service so long as it’s in accordance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Act only protects people based on race, nationality, etc. In other words, the businesses are the entitled party in this scenario. Potential customers are entitled to absolutely nothing.
@@I_Am_SciCurious This is true, but the campground invited them. They didn't even know this campground existed.
@@I_Am_SciCurious So irrational prejudice is OK? No shirt, no shoes, black skin? Get lost!
I have to say I also think age restrictions are outdated. I have a newer class A and was stranded on our first trip when electrical issues caused battery drain to the point we couldn’t go anywhere till it was fixed. Age is no indication of reliability. So sorry you had this experience.
Florida has age restrictions galore.
RVs built in 2020 and 2021 are infamous for poor quality.
I'll give you credit, I'd name them full out because this is absolutely unbelievable and unreasonable for the campground , I agree it was like they were actually trying to find a reason after a while
You should absolutely call out that RV park by name... they need to know this practice is not okay
It sounds like their marketing person probably sent out invites to any RV TH-cam channel but failed to actually pay attention who they were sending to. Your RV looks so much newer than it is. I agree....if you drove it in, you would be able to drive it out in case you all had to evacuate. As far as the cats, you were honest with them and got punished for it.
By the way....I love your channel and have learned so much from you!
Thank you! 💙
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Yes, I think of all the post-Covid brand new RV's that get to their first destination, then break down, not starting, levelers won't retract, sliders won't retract, etc.
"...you were honest with them and got punished for it." When a peace officer pulls us over for speeding, do we expect them to let us off because we admit it? Sense of entitlement is rampant in today's society. Acknowledge the issue and be prepared to deal with the consequences (like Charity did when offering to have someone kitty-sit). Then if someone shows grace and mercy we can be thankful for it! But expecting someone to ignore the rules for us is simply wrong. Charity wasn't "punished" for it, and she shouldn't feel she is being punished. She was expected to follow the rules like everybody else. That, in itself, is a form of respect shown to Charity! It is a shady thing to hide in the shadows, make deals under the table, and then hope nobody notices. Do we break the rules when we think others won't notice? Transparency and integrity are rare things these days. Kudos to Charity!
Age discrimination should never be a 100% deciding factor. How many times have brand new rigs failed! It sounds to me they reached out blindly and had to back peddle when they realized you weren't the "demographic" they want to draw in. Shame on them
So true! Brand new isn’t immune to issues either.
I work at a campground
The issues this last year were from USER errors! It doesn't matter the year of the RV it's people thinking they know what they are doing and not willing to ask for help! Hands down
Insurance companies are requiring this sometimes, also some Burroughs, counties etc (because of homeless).
They can’t make different rules for different people. THAT is how they end up getting sued.
@@scottmichaels12That's true, but they invited them to visit their rv park free of charge to promote their business.
We live in our 2004 fifth wheel and have been full time since 2009. . It is in excellent condition. I always read the campground rules before I book a reservation. I will not book at any park with HOA rules. In 1972 a full timer told me the best parks are old fishing camps. That holds true to this day. Safe travels.
We started to bring our two dogs and two cats with us camping. We have a 40' fifth wheel and whenever we book, we make sure to tell them we have 2 dogs and 2 cats. Every time we've mentioned the cats, we've been told, "Oh, we don't usually count cats since they rarely go outside". It seems real odd that they would count the cats when, literally, NO ONE else in the campground is even going to see them. I'd be surprised if there aren't other campers who do have cats inside their RVs and the campground is just not aware of it.
Our 5th wheel is a 1998. Travel all over the country with it. Never been turned away even pulling it with a rusty truck. We have started boondocking, helps save on costs, and you meet a lot of great people.
Actually, looking back, it's a valuable experience with the conclusion that it's best to stay away from a campground like this. Our RV is also 20 years old, well maintained, and frankly better than newer RVs with the poor quality produced today.
FYI : if a 20 year (or so) old motorhome is well maintained is something you can most times see easily from the outside. If it's reasonable clean and everything looks in good order incl. tires, lights, etc. it's a very strong sign the owner keeps engine & chassis also in top running condition. Newer RVs (e.g. built after 2008) often have worse quality and new RV owners often fail to to the regular upkeep work and often think the rig is newer so what can go wrong.
It’s not really about the RV age, their just trying to filter the people to the kind they want. The ones with deep pockets…
My wife and I just returned from a 4300 mile trip in our 2004 30b Winnebago Sightseer. I helped out more folks with fairly new RVs and our unit did the whole trip without any problems whatsoever. I think these parks should start rethinking some of these policy's and look on a more case by case solution. We are both in our 70s and your experience would cause a reall hardship towards someone like ourselves. Thanks and wishing y'all happy travels. D&M
I had to shake my head over your experience! While we haven’t been turned away, a Thousand Trails campground in Fort Myers almost turned us away, upon check in, because our Siberian Husky weighs 85 pounds and their weight limit was 80#! We had to bring him to the office, so they could meet him and it took them 20 seconds to see he’s mostly fur (like yours), and he won them over with all his kisses!! But, the kicker to this place is they required you to fill out paperwork, provide a doggie poop sample and pay $25 for an “analysis” fee.They send the sample away and IF they find doggie poo not picked up, they submit the offending sample for analysis. If it’s deemed from your dog, they have a significant “fine”! WTH? Crazy people run this campground!!!!
But, it doesn’t stop there. We inherited a condo in Clearwater Beach FL that we offered for use to my niece and her husband, while they got established, after their move from Long Island. When my MIL bought the condo, it was pet friendly, but over the years, they changed the bylaws. My niece has a service dog for disability support and the HOA board did everything in their power to make their life miserable. They accused her dog of using the elevator as its pee spot (later determined to be an elderly adult confused male), accused her husband of not cleaning up after their dog, even though my niece and service dog had not been on site for 3 weeks AND the size of the deposited poo was clearly from a dog much larger than theirs! The final straw was when they approached my niece and asked her to use the stairs vs. elevator to our 4th store condo! She had the best response! She said if I could WALK 4 flights of stairs, I wouldn’t need a service dog! There were so many more incidents I can’t list them all here. We threatened legal action as their abuse was abhorrent and illegal. They left and we sold the unit. FL is lovely, but any HOA or administrative group run by older individuals seem to have an axe to grind and have lost any sense of reality. Sorry you experienced the “rejection” but you indirectly won the campground lottery not staying there!!
What an awful experience. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience
A group of monkeys is called a congress, a herd of hyenas is called a cackle, a gathering of Karens is called an HOA... 'nuff said. :)
This is why I'm avoiding HOA's in looking for a second home. Way too many Karen's and power-hungry people out there on these HOAs.
Why would that upset you if you clean up after your dog? There's a reason they had to resort to those measures. Don't like it, go enjoy the wonders of an rv campground that doesn't mind dogs pooping everywhere.
@@gooffy120Insightful Ken. Or is it Karen?
Expose them and urge business to go elsewhere.
YES I wanna know which RV park in Tampa does this! I don’t want to stay there!!! If they don’t share it then I will avoid all parks in and around Tampa. There are always harvest hosts in that area.
‘Expose’ them? Most people will be happy knowing what they can expect
why even make a video about a bad experience before going to the RV Park if your not going to say what the name of the park then. i guess i would not be planing to go down to Tampa at all.
@@LokiandBjorn It is Bay Bayou in Tampa and Sunkissed Village in Summerfield.
Many RV campgrounds in canada discriminate based on age, but condo and apartment complexes do too.
A few years ago, a relative was living in a 45+ condo building here in Edmonton, Alberta. Her minivan was a few years old and did not leak oil. She ended up in a 3 year battle with the condo board gestapo, with condo members pouring fresh motor oil on her assigned parking spot, and vandalizing her vehicle (security cams "missed" each instance).
She even had a large custom shelf with sides installed under the oil pan (after the condo president got under her vehicle and punctured the oil pan or something with a screwdriver - to "prove" her vehicle was leaking oil).
The vehicle, with the modification, literally couldn't leak oil. Then, the condo board demanded letters from the auto mechanic. Then they decided to go after her for pre-existing stains on the (unsealed) concrete parking space. Stains listed in the pre-move in rental inspection. There was no end to it, and she was glad to move out.
Those types of people are absolutely out of their tiny minds!
That is aweful... 😢so sorry for that issue in her life
As an owner of a well maintained Class A motorhome that is stored indoors which is 2 years older than yours, and was 14 years old when I bought it in 2016, I agree with you entirely on this 10 / 15 / 20 year old rule mentality. I feel the chances of my coach not being able to leave under its own power a few days after arriving is no greater than say for a 5 year old coach. In our 20,000 thousand miles of travel around the US over the last 7 years, we have experienced exactly one incident where we were not able to leave a campground as planned (starter solenoid failed), this was repaired within a few hours after a trip to a nearby auto parts store, and is something that could happen on a newer RV as well.
Grab your jumper cables and start it that way in an emergency/ kicked out situation.
If a hurricane is coming, you tend to have about a week or so to get your RV out. And then purchasing a large motorhome is a long term investment. Not something your going to trade in every few years. Unless you can buy a $200,000 plus Class A outright, your going to be financing it for close to 10 years. Don't know how many years typical RV financing is for, so just guessing.
@@trevorbryant4360 As someone who has lived through multiple major hurricanes, I can tell you that you really don't know where they are going to hit a week out, you just know there is a chance of one. At a week out the uncertainty cone often covers 400-500 miles of coastline, while the actual intense part of the storm may be 30-40 miles across. You only really know where it will hit at 24-48 hours out, at which point the winds are likely already gusting to the point where driving a high profile vehicle is dangerous itself. As to financing 20-30 years is common on RV's
@@MrPenguinLife Still, if your in hurricane season, you will want to maintain your RV so you can still leave if needed. The 20-30 year financing really makes these age restrictions even more dumber. Think the campground is really using hurricanes or age as an excuse too protect a "high-end" campground image.
Why would the campground be legally liable if a person's motorhome is mechanically unable to leave in the event of a hurricane? That makes no sense. The campground would be liable for its negligence only. It is up to the motorhome owner to make certain that their vehicle is properly maintained and operational.
Yep, RV age restriction has been used to be declined us twice over the years. Our RV is now a 23 year old Prevost bus. We are visited by "orbiters" (people checking out our bus walking around it usually while taking pictures) at most campgrounds we stay in. We've had a few campgrounds that initially declined, but we sent a picture of the bus and were accepted. Sometimes a manager became involved. It is the campground right to set rules. It is our right to go somewhere else.
Of course all places have rules nobody is disputing that, however on their approach those rules should've been made clear and they should've been upfront with them about same said rules in the very beginning. The amount of back pedaling they did and the unnecessary stress they caused is what is being questioned here. Places like these are just glorified HOAs.
Don't folks realize a 23 year old Prevost is built better than many of these new rigs on the road today? I have a 1979 Shasta Class C, I'm the fourth owner and I love my old gal. She gets lots of attention because she has custom paint and lots of upgrades, compliments of my father, the second owner. I have never been turned away but I also don't stay in resorts, I'm a small Mom and Pop campground kind of gal or I boondock since I'm self contained. I know my classic RV isn't everyone's taste but those that do definitely let me know when they see me out and about traveling and it's a great feeling.
You are believing everything she said. She not only disrespected humanity by uploading a whiny child reaction video but also including a sponsor and you don't even recognize that she played you. The story could be all fiction. It is about the sponsor and making money. Who else is fooling you in your life that is the question you should be asking yourself. Hope this helps you understand the world a little bit better
@@JennyJenner-w5x
I never knew there were RV HOA Nazi's at resorts. No thank you! I would never stay there again and would tell all my friends.
These are the same kind of people who would demand no ordinary caskets be buried in their cemetery.
I couldn't imagine accepting a unsolicited invite and only to find out upon arrival they wouldn't accept and allow me to stay at their campground?? After all I drove a number of miles at 7 or 8 MPG. And countless miles off my plotted course!!
I just want to thank you for the heads up on Tampa&Sommerset areas to stay away from!! My money spends just as good everywhere else!!!
This is all craziness! First of all, we traveled with three cats for years (and we are now down to two) and we have never had to hide any of this information from anyone before. Sometimes, there has been a limit of 2 pets, but I have always mentioned that there are three cats and no one has mentioned anything at all about them. One of the cats loves to spend time outside on a leash when we are with him; and they both enjoy going for a ride in their pet stroller. I don't see how anyone can even begin to compare the impact of dogs versus the impact of cats at a campground!
The age of our RV came into play at an RV campground near Portland, Oregon a few years ago. When making reservations, they didn't even ask about the age of it; but I'd heard rumors that they had such a policy. Not wanting any last-minute surprises, I brought up the subject and was immediately told we could not stay there. I offered to send current photos, but there were NO exceptions, I was told. But in a funny twist of fate, we had friends staying there that wanted us to come visit them, and they vouched for our RV (sight unseen, by the way) and the owners welcomed us with open arms!
At this point I'd like to mention that it was the worst RV campground we've ever stayed in. The sites were practically on top of one another, the campground itself was wedged between two freeways so the noise was constant, and one fellow worked on his RV in the very early hours of the day, depriving us of any sleep.
We are done with membership campgrounds. Sorry, Thousand Trails- after paying through the nose for many years, we were so disappointed that your Preserves began looking more like homeless camps than the lovely sites you once had. Coast to Coast left us "Orphan Members" after our last campground no longer wanted to be part of their program, and we were offered the "opportunity" to buy a new camp membership for over $11,000, across the country where we would never think to camp. We belong to one "smallish" campground group, and have about 8 campgrounds where we can travel; but the owners are such stingy jerks and treat their members terribly that they are losing members at a rapid pace.
Thousand Trails camps are in really bad shape, but a one year membership is paid for in a couple of weeks at the going rate of $65 a day.
I love older motorhomes. I'm a full timer in Canada. I've had a 1984 Class A and am currently in a 1996 Class A. After running into the age rule for the motorhome one too many times many years ago, I flat out gave up on using RV parks ever. I haven't used an RV park in years and don't intend to in the future. I am totally self sufficient and have saved thousands of dollars over the years. Hopefully this is the last time you run into the age rule with the motorhome.
Thanks for sharing!
Do national and state parks not let you stay ? I'm trying to get my dad to restore his 87 winnebego. And I want him to make it look like the original ( orange yellow green etc lol )
We ran into this rv age on the Oregon Coast. I think the campground is called Pelican something. We wanted to spend our 67th wedding anniversary and they turned us down because our RV was over ten years old. Needless to say we do not want to be where we are not welcome but rest assured I have told others about this policy.
Congratulations on your anniversary. It would have been so much more fun if they had welcomed you and thrown a little picnic party to celebrate your special day!
I live near that Pelican place. I think they are kind of snooty. Lots of other places here that don't even ask. Sorry, that happened to you. Kathleen
Funny how they couldn't break the rules for number of pets or age of your RV, but seemed to have no problem with the fact that you aren't over 55 years old. Love watching y'all, by the way!
Right!?! 😂 thanks for watching 💙
Even in housing properties that are age restrictive, the properties are required to have a percentage available for any age. I think they got this channel mixed up with another, and instead of saying “oh my goodness, here’s what happened, we are SO sorry” they attacked the family and their rig instead. Thousand trails will never see a red cent from me!
Could have thought she's 55. Certainly cranky enough to be 55.
@@valerief1231 I agree with the sentiment, but unfortunately the law you're referring to is commonly misunderstood. In order to qualify as a 55+ community, they are ALLOWED to have residents under 55, up to 15% of their total population (at least in FL). If less than 85% of residents are 55+, they lose their zoning/designation for that type of community status. It's not that they MUST accept that many, only that they CAN. HOAs often claim NO ONE under 55 can legally live there. That's a lie. It's only a problem if the 85/15% ratio is in play. As she says in this video, it's easier to reject everyone and hide behind policy than to consider applications on a case by case basis. It's really not a good way to do business, but in Florida, where so much of the population has this attitude, it's sadly common.
Other laws come into play if an HOA rejects someone under 55, due to circumstances like disability, inherited property etc. No one should just accept "that's our policy" when it comes to where they can live. Get the facts, check your rights and go from there.
@@mandiexxi4522 I not sure how that applies exactly because the condo that I own has a stipulation that you can own but can't stay there unless someone over 55 is in the condo with you (makes me think it's based on ownership), or they're just trying to loophole law. They've been sued for age discrimination at least once that I know. They were hassling and trying to force out a couple under 55 (they looked to me to be in there mid-40's maybe early 50's). It's like these communities always have a issues with anyone they deem not worthy of addition to their "herd".
You're not getting the whole story in my opinion. They changed their mind along the way and then started making excuses. They reached out to you on your website that does show everything that will be coming with you and have watched videos....crazy. Makes zero sense except they changed their mind and then made excuses. I don't truly think it's over the RV age. It's a very nice looking RV and I can't tell it's that old. I commend you for not calling them out by name, but then there is that part of me that thinks they deserve a bad review since they did the reaching out.
You are the bigger person. You could be splashing the name of this park all over social media ( which is what I would have done. That's just me), but you didn't. Kudos to you! You handled this strange situation with grace. Good luck to you and your family with your future travels.
I prefer to camp in County, State, or Private Campgrounds only. I've never had an issue.
I give you major props for how you handled this. I would have at least called out the park by name. My wife and I are both 60 and at fortunately Florida is not a planned destination for us at this time If I knew the name of the Campground I would specifically avoid this campground. Time to make them famous. If you have completed a visit you would have likely given an honest review, the good, the bad the ugly.
Even though we would all like to know, Charity is wisely not giving out the name of the RV park to avoid a possible slander lawsuit from them,
I agree with you! It has been like this for a while! We have personally been denied from places because they said we have "too many kids" (while we were in a RV). We are now converting a bus into an RV so that limits us as well since many rv parks and resorts including Thousand Trails do not allow bus conversions, regardless of what they look like. I am hoping things will change, but we love boondocking too. ❤
You need to be RVIA certified for the campgrounds insurance so no they won't change on that. If you go that way just know where your BLM land is and have enough solar onboard. It's better than waking up next to ugly rv's and putting up with the people that live in the rv's, yes I live in an rv park the neighbors are always drunks or druggies (even in the adult only parks)
And this is sad too as in our 5 yearsof travel we came across some amazing converted buses. Best of luck with the build.
@@RobertnMichelle19 thank you ♥️
Ya...theyHATE,buses
We're always glad to leave where we're not well received😊
I'm torn. As a rental property owner, I have a no pets policy so everyone knows up front. Sadly, rather than being honest, like you were tenants tell me they don't have pets, then I find out from other tenants that they do.
A lot of these RV parks have insane rules that shouldn’t even be in place and don’t focus on the things that really matter. Glad you posted this love the honesty 😊
You should open a campground, we’d stay at it! While we have a newer RV, my husband and I agree totally. Understandable that parks want to verify the state and that everything is functioning but so many people renovate older ones like you did that many should be fine. If it’s truly the liability in an evacuation situation I wonder why they couldn’t have some sort of waiver for that. Good thing there are many other park options that will accommodate and be a better experience for your wonderful family.
@@D-n-F-Gaming that makes sense
We camp with our two cats. We never included them with our reservation because they never leave the camper. All their facilities are inside. They do have a few fans at different sites when they are discovered. It has never been an issue camping in Alaska.
It doesn't matter if the cat doesn't leave the camper, their POOP does and their litter waste does. Just like dog poop and doggie bags. That kind of waste adds up.
@@jenniferkopf7879 not sure I understand your comment. Their poop goes out with the normal trash. I don't think my cats have ever made so much waste that I needed to make a seperate trip to the trash for them.
@@AKben1775 Campgrounds are businesses that pay by the pound for waste removal. Each persona and pet - adds to that. In order to calculate how much removal service they will need annually, they need to KNOW how many are staying there.
So, like I said...even if your kitty doesn't ever leave your trailer - their WASTE does and contributes to the expense of the park.
I fully agree with you. In fact, I can add that such restrictions are discriminatory against senior citizens. Senior citizens might have an older RV that they purchased years ago and cared for very well, but senior citizens are often on a fixed income during retirement and absolutely cannot afford to "upgrade" their RV. I'm not afraid to identify RV parks by name. I pointed out such discrimination to CalExpo RV Park in Sacramento, CA, which has a 10-year rule. Fortunately, they use discretion if you can provide evidence, and their requirements for evidence are extensive: photos of all 4 sides of your RV, photos of your valid registration that must match the guest's name, photos of your valid insurance that must match the guest's name, and photos of your license plates with valid registration stickers. I asked them how they ensure that all of these documents with personal information on them are kept secure, and they stated that they keep such records secure (what could I do but believe them? At least they're a state-sponsored organization, which could be a good or a terrible thing). CalExpo RV Park is a very decent bare-bones park with very nice staff. It's the neighborhood and area that are the problem. CalExpo really does have 24/7 security patrol (I heard them and saw them throughout the night patrolling), and they have a live-in host. CalExpo is literally about half the cost of the next cheapest private RV park in the area, which averages about $100 per night. I think the RV park that rejected you is simple-minded (inflexible) and discriminatory. I'm not sure why you won't name the RV park that rejected you, so that we could be warned, because it doesn't seem like you are saying anything but what you actually experienced. It's not slander. Many RV TH-camrs are completely open about the businesses they visit, and we really appreciate that.
I used to work at a campground that didnt do that, but i have heard of it happening, and this is why i dont make reservations at any RV PARK, alot of times its not just the campground but some of the guest staying there, they ARE the problem, not all are this way but there are some and those are the ones who ruin it for everyone, so i go boondocking just to avoid these ppl
Have a 2006 class A. Have taken very good care of it. If I must say so myself still looks new. We met some friends at a park in FL with the age restrictions, the park looked at it and gave us a site. Our friends had a brand spanking new one, not 3 months old, and 3 things went wrong with theirs, slide wound only come out so far and stop, water issues, and lastly it wouldn’t start when it was time to leave. Ours, not one problem! Our friends told us “ don’t get rid of your rig. It is built better and will last longer than the new ones!” Apparently they have had nothing but issues with their $400,000.+ unit. I understand not wanting a beat up held together with bailing wire one in the park. But like you stated the majority of us can afford to get a new RV every 10-15 years. I must say though that if this is a trend this will be our last rig. We will not play those snooty games.
Keep up the great videos and information!
I made reservations for a rv park for the winter in Arizona last year. I told them I had 2 dogs. Right after I got there I got a notice that they only had a one pet policy. I went to the manager. Thankfully they modified their policy to allow my 2 dogs.
RV owners want your money. She is just a whiner or more likely the story is made up so that she can post a sponsored video. Although if I were a sponsor I would not want my company associated.
Are you accusing the poster of making up the situation? How cynical! They try to honestly share their experiences so others are aware of what can go wrong. Shame on you!
About 5 yrs ago I tried to make reservations at a park in Florida, first thing they asked, What year is your RV? We didn't qualify! Bunch of elitest snobs I say!
I can see how you feel you were used by this RV Park. Your exchange with them reminds me of the HOA nightmares I binge watched. Just thank your lucky stars you aren't being fined nor having your RV taken from you and go where you all will be truly appreciated.
Hi! I am a professional motorcoach driver and am in the process of converting one of our "Old Junkers" (a military surplus 1969 MCI MC-5 with a whole 120k miles on it), the bus cleans up like new and I can imagine the complaints I'll get for that one! Or perhaps I'll drive up in our oldest coach a 1963 GM 4106! Stumbled into your channel and I liked your story! I guess it explains why when I stumbled into winning a land auction for $1 that my friend wanted me to install a RV pad. Nearest neighbor is more than a mile away and it's in the mountains of northern Nevada. Perfect camping spot if you like the high country! I guess he hates dealing with picky RV parks (his RV is a bit older than yours is)!
When you said that it was at the Villages in Summerfield Florida says it all. The Villages are mostly a high dollar community with very strict rules. I used to have a home just outside the Villages, and I'd never consider living in the Villages. They rule the area with an iron fist.
I'm only 50 and live in the midwest, and even I have heard of the iron fist of the Villages (along with other Villages legends which makes me never ever consider retiring there).
How do we find out which campground this is so we can make sure not to use them?
I love that you give them ZERO publicity by name! My initial thought was let us know the place to avoid... but that's giving them free advertising! And our family isn't over 55 and we have 3 dogs so we wouldn't be welcome there either...
Exactly!
@@GratefulGlamperThough…. You do have a great platform and could hurt them greatly it would be justified.
We once had a year membership with 1000 Trails (4 great homeschool kids, no pets, except a hamster) ,
and I really didn’t like that most people were very rude and snooty!
We will never again have a membership.
Campgrounds can’t make different rules for different people. If they let the Grateful Glampers in, then someone with a junky 16 yr old RV, a dog and 2 feral cats who were turned away could then sue the campground for discrimination. Our laws and rules in America are not set on a case by case basis. It’s unreasonable to expect campgrounds, who often are understaffed, to be expected to constantly make these judgment calls. It’s easier and cleaner to just have ONE SET OF RULES FOR EVERYONE! If you don’t like their rules then go somewhere else. This is just another “victim” story. 🤦♂️
I think you're going to run into this run-around whenever you deal with the camping "resorts" whether they reach out to your not. We avoid them like the plague.
ME TOO.RUN LIKE,HOA,S....NO WAY NEVER....IN SIX YEARS
Few " RV resorts" deserve the name.
Thank you for all the information what's the name of the RV park.
I’m not a part of the Rv community, but I am a new resident of the state of Florida. All I can say is that things are different here lol. I am continually amazed at the “rules” I have encountered I. This state is living in a different era and different world than the rest of the US!
It was like that when we moved to Texas twenty years ago. We heard the phrase, "See in Texas, we do things differently, " so much it became a running joke in our family. Oh, and it was always over something truly absurd, too. LOL
This is so weird. The campground is being mismanaged.
I have been to RV parks where people live month by month and have so much stuff around outside their RV they couldn’t move it if they had too.
Crazy world
We have encountered a number of pet restrictions, 10 yr. RV age restriction, and many 55+ parks. We have never taken our cat, she's a barn cat, but have traveled with 3 dogs, one being a Rot mix. It's their parks and they can make whatever rules they want. However, the fact they invited you guys makes me doubt they had ever watched your channel.
Full time since 2009 and we have 3 cats and no, I do not. We do not let our cats out at all.
I get emails ALL the time about looking for creative people like myself. I just delete & block.
Hello, they are just sending out the emails to everyone. That's why they didn't know of your family situation.
Exactly. The marketers would rather waste your time, they don’t take the time to review content.
I’ve heard of a lot of campgrounds only allowing newer campers/RVs. It’s horrible!
Absolutely insane. I get why you didn’t but I’d be so tempted to name names here, I’m not sure I’d want to trust staying at a place that seems to be run by keystone cops. At any rate, regarding the kitties, we are relatively new to the scene and just took our cats with us for the first time last year. I didn’t mention them because, like you, I thought well, they don’t ever leave the camper, they don’t add any additional wear or tear to the facility so why would I? In my mind that is equivalent to declaring your bringing along an extra set of sheets! What difference does it make? Well, I sort of “let the cat(s) out of the bag when we were getting ready to check out and I mentioned how well our cats did on their first adventure and you would have thought I’d committed a Madoff level fraud on the place. I guess I was supposed to have paid an additional deposit for having pets like they were going to escape and wreak havoc on the place like it was a motel room or something. So now I just know to not mention them at all.
Im traveling in a new class A in Florida, right now, and any information on RV parks/resorts/campgrounds managed by flaky personnel is always good to know so to avoid.
I'm so sorry you were treated like that. Wish you would list the campground name, we definitely wouldn't stay there !!
There are many people buying older RV's and remodeling them and using them, my friend has a old Greyhound bus from the 1950's and I would put it up against to many 2023 models because the thing is so beautiful and it has a new computer controlled engine and everything else. He uses it as a home while he is racing at drag strips instead of staying at hotels.
Thank you so so much for pointing out this discrimination issue ( which is becoming more and more an issue across this country because of discrimination)
Expecting _guests_ to abide by established rules is not discrimination to anyone other than a Karen.
@@simonelliot3712 I'm afraid not there is rules and regulations yes but when it becomes to the discrimination and there is discrimination just because that way a certain group of people can associate themselves with the same I like people
@@mrsurreal4271 Thanks for proving my point again. Cheers.
@simonelliott3712...oh goober call me karen! You just prove my point every time you attempt to stifle anyone who is not goober ish, you know.... challenged.
@@annettegraves-s6v Nobody is trying to stifle you. What you're experiencing is the discomfort associated with the cognitive dissonance that results when you make yourself look like a dumb-dumb in front of everyone. But hey, at least, now you know.
Glad you’re using your platform to bring awareness to things like this. My wife and I will start our RV journeys in 2024. We are filling up on knowledge of all things RV. This help.
You want more whining "I was treated unfairly" like a child on a playground content. This is informative or entertaining? You know she included a sponsor and she makes thousands and tens of thousands of dollars. It is probably made up. If it were genuine and for your benefit would she include a sponsor? Hope this helps you understand how this works. Hope this comments helps you in life.
We have a 2001 American Eagle 40 foot diesel pusher. We have only been declined in 1 rv park in 8 months of travel from North Carolina to California. We were even approved at an age limit park in Breckenridge, CO ( with a photo) ...the park that rejected us is in Cabot, Arkansas...not exactly a popular destination. Lol. We also have an indoor cat...but I don't mention it as she stays in.
Our goal wasn't to disparage the campground but rather bring attention to outdated policies that need changing.
You may not mention your cats, Kelly, but your cats will be looking out every window.
@@donnabaardsen5372 she's a scardy cat. She rarely is near windows.
I'm glad that I watched this video (and subscribed, BTW), it was very enlightening. As we have a now 33 years old Foretravel, I can expect to be excluded from some locations, based merely on the age of the coach. It is very good looking, and after I do some cosmetic work, will simply be spectacular. The ONLY real negative for visiting campgrounds is that it does not have modern pollution controls, so that cold startups can be deisel stinky. When I select a site at a campground, I try to get the most remote spot, where the exhaust prior to our departure would be least likely to irritate or affect others.
Edit: The contact you got regarding collaboration was probably sent by a marketing company, not through the campground itself. That would explain the disconnect between your very public situation and the HOA-like restrictions of the place this video is about.
It’s Florida. They have no trouble filling the park especially if it is not June through August. They also have the loudmouth elderly people who do not want (other people’s) kids and noise around. Try buying a condo in Florida if you are under 55 and you’ll see what I mean.
This whole video is a gem. Thousand Trails BY FAR had some the OLDEST RVs I ever saw staying there. In many cases they looked like they flat out had not moved in YEARS! Some even were vacant but obviously still staying there. So to turn away you and your family is the absolute biggest tell that they just were making excuses. We were turned away because of my family being over 6 people. Our RV was only 24ft at the time. We took up less space than the larger trailers and RVs, didn't use any of the activities in the park. Yet they told us we had to leave because they didn't support our style of family. We don't live in our trailer we camp in it 30 days out of the year max!
To the best of my knowledge Thousand Trails (I am a member) does not have RV age restrictions only that it must be in decent working condition with no obvious need of repair. Each park is individually managed and they can use their discretion. I've only been to a handful of them from CA to WA. Also some of them have permanent yearly paid for sites which explains why you might see vacant RV's that have been there a long time. They do you have a rule about the owner only being allowed to occupy it maybe 5 or 6 months out of the year.
The park that turned us away wasn’t a thousand trails park (we stay at TT parks often) but a private campground. Guess we will stick to the TT and state parks! Thanks for watching
Charity, you nailed it... we have a 13 year old RV... and this is insane.. these people realized they did not know who you were when they invited you. Thus, trying to find a way out... my opinion.
nope ... somebody probably pointed out the flood of "karen" complaints they would get, plus potentially a lawsuit - it's Florida after all! How DARE they bring that old hunka junk into the campground? Campground rules are becoming like HOA rules - Karen is gonna enforce them.
I agree they blindly reached out, and instead of being upfront that the marketing department made an error, they backpeddled... which I think is more harmful than owning up to a mistake.
@@capnkirk5528I've been saying for awhile that HOA's are nothing but a group of karens
Hubby and I are planning our 2024 RVing schedule as new RV owners. I am glad that you have brought this issue to our attention. Thanks for all your tips/tricks/musthave's and such!!!! Love it!!
Glad it was helpful!
Be sure to avoid this place. Oh yeah, no way to since it wasn't identified.
IN AUSTRALIA there are NO restrictions on age or type of caravan or tent at camping parks - but usually a dog & cat limit. Fun fact though, there are no large American style RV's in Australia... we simply don't import them. So, you get (a) caravan (b) tent and (c) conversion of a truck into something you can sleep in or next to overnight. I thought the whole point of these places was a CHEAP and CONVENIENT stopover for people on the move who are on a budget. WOW, that is next level you have to have a fancy, expensive, late model RV to stay there - it's like asking people at Walmart to dress in black tie and tiaras.
My brother had his trailer in a park and when it passed from father to son they started to kick out older trailers, it was obviously just a case of the owner not wanting it to look run down. My brother got kicked two years later because he intentionally bought a fire damaged one than was well within the range, moved his to a new park first, and put that one in to break the lease. He still had to pay half a season because it took that long for them to find a legal excuse to ask him to leave.
I'm not in an RV yet, but in my research I have heard that there are a lot of parks that limit the age of the RVs. Most I have heard of limit them to cannot be more than 10 years old. I've heard that it has more to do with having RVs that look "junky" and old. Some people have said that if they send the park recent photos showing that their RV is in good condition (looking nice on the outside), the park would make exceptions for them. This case sounds like they just tried to mass invite channels to collab, but only older couples for the new park, and now they want out of their invite. Shady.
My wife and I live in a 1996 34' class A and we have never been rejected to a park even the ones that have a 10 year rule. We have been asked to send pictures however. We are both in our sixties but, we discovered we do not like 55+ parks. They just get a little weird to us.
Really, places think you need to buy a new RV every year!!! Even 15 years is ridiculous!! For many buying a large RV is a long term investment. Especially if our financing a $100,000 plus RV or for a Class A motorhome, your likely looking at $200,000 plus. You might be looking at 5-6 or more years to pay it off. I really think these campgrounds only care about their image and being able to show all new RV's. And many of these campgrounds are like camping in a Walmart parking lot.
That's a campground I will never go to. Thanks for sharing your experience and saving others the nightmare at this place.
Thanks for watching
Wow, this is so frustrating! I've gotten offers from RV parks and resorts too and my RV is older and more beat up than yours. I wonder if I'd have gone through the same thing.
I've seen, from the hundreds of offers I've gotten that they blast offers to creators without really knowing who we are and what we're about. I've gotten the most ridiculous offers from perfume of the month clubs to fancy RV resorts (which are absolutely not my thing, I'm a boondocker).
They should do their due diligence before reaching out to us, but they don't.
What a frustrating experience. I'm sorry you had to go through all that.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching and for the comment! Yes, we get super crazy offers sometimes too. But why ask a family to come at your RV resort only to turn them away…? Wires were definitely crossed somewhere. Best wishes 💙
95+ % of our camping is in State, Federal and Provincial parks, who do not care. Once contemplated a private park an California and once I saw the "rules" decided Big Redwoods was a better choice. Found out from my sister that our family had camped there when I was 3.
I'm planning to start full time RVing this spring. I have a dog and 3 cats. I knew campgrounds might have breed/weight restrictions about dogs, but I wasn't sure about my cats. Like yours, mine would never leave the RV.
In the short time we’ve been RV’ing in our 2004 (same as you) we’ve run into this alot. Worse, having 3 dogs, who might I add, are certified water rescue dogs and therapy dogs who travel to teach-we run into this rule of 2 pet rule a lot.
One dog could be way more trouble than four dogs, it depends on the owner and dog. Your trained dogs getting shunned from campgrounds is a pity. Anyone who has been around a Newfie knows they are gentle, slobber, fur bundles.
I totally agree with Rv age. There are 2010s that still look brand new yet cost 30,000 and would be rejected. I’ve had area campgrounds, in a very rural area, turn us away with a 99 that we have redone while the entire campground is packed full of empty unmoveable trash that looks worse. One of which my grandparents stayed at seasonally for 10 years. Ridiculous really… btw always tell them about pets for fire reasons.
This is what being honest gets you.
Funny, I just recently watched several video's about how worthless new RV warranties were and how many problems they had. (Lehto's Law) The suggestion was better to let someone else take the depreciation and work all the problems out. So much for new RV's being better.
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Welcome to RVing in Florida. It all started in 2016 when fuel prices fell. Florida filled up and started raising prices. It is now insane. So parks can make any crazy rule they want and they can charge insane prices for a site.
We typically mention all of our pets... since we have a German Shepherd, a mix breed with some Pit in him and a cat. Funny enough, we have run into MORE issues with the German Shepherd, than the mix or our cat.
As for the age restrictions... I feel like those should really kick in for long term residency situations. Even if you have a vintage RV, if you were able to drive it in and park it, like you said... there's a reasonable expectation that it's driving out in a week as well. Typically when I see RV's that I would wonder if they'd crumble to bits if moved an inch... they're ALL long term stay situations.
We're a travel nurse family, so we don't bounce around a lot... typically it's a 3-6 month commitment! I 100% agree that it's insane to think I'm going to just up and buy a relatively new RV, every 8-10 years!
I've been on the fence about the RV age restrictions for the very reasons you've highlighted. I think you've helped me find the “policy” for our park that takes the middle road. RV Age plus exception criteria, all above board with no exceptions to the exception criteria. And then I have to get our attorney to find a replacement phrase for exception criteria because the courts wouldn't go exceptions to the rule and then enforce exception criteria.. Because it's no longer an exception.
This lets us welcome the family or couple pulling that mint-condition Airstream or in your case, the well-maintained Class A motorhome.
For pets, this is a tricky one. I ask that all pets be listed, but now I think I need to find a way to work our form to account for cats that's never leave the vehicle. Being blunt: dogs are a mixed bag. Even dogs that never leave the vehicle can be unruly. And some dog breeds are more talkative than others, with personalities that affect jist how talkative they are and reactive to noises/presence outside the vehicle. So maybe the contract wording should be about unruly pets and not number of pets? I'd love to hear some thoughts by others.
Thanks for watching and the reply!
"On arrival at our campground If the photograph you appended to your booking application does not reflect the condition of the RV when we inspect your RV
and your pets do not meet the description as submitted on the application
we reserve the right to not accept your booking and to refuse you entry to the campground..
as per the T&C attached and ticked by you when you submitted your application on line or by mail or text."
This is fair warning.
You have already decided that any RV that has applied can be accommodated based on the information given....
but if they are lying.....
refunds would have to be sorted out of course...
Dog restrictions should be by weight. Many senior citizens have toy weight dogs that weigh less than cats. They are not a danger to anyone, and like to stay next to their owners.
We tow with a semi truck (HDT) and an older trailer. Never had a problem until we tried to stop near Savannah GA. The owner told my wife NO and not just because we used a semi, but because he would not accept anyone that was a truck driver and would kick out anyone if he found out they drove truck. So we called the next place, found out they would accept us, but were booked, they put us in touch with a GA State Park that had room and we had a great stay. I rarely mention what we tow with, but had a feeling this time. I also never mention the age of our trailer, it does not look it's age, but can not be hidden, part of the model name 2000. I have had friends that use HDT's get told they are too heavy, but most places change their mind once they point out they weigh less than most Class A motorhomes and turn far shorter, actually shorter than pickups pulling same trailer. I have had some other campers say we should be banned for what we tow with and even a state park officer that wanted us out, but could not, nothing against trucks of any size being used. Now we can not stay at high end resorts and that is ok, not wanting to spend that much any ways.
Wow! That is crazy! Thanks for sharing your experience
It is hard to understand how that man could not see the difference between a tractor pulling a camper and a tractor pulling a camper.
Condition of the RV should take precedence over age. There are plenty of older RVs that are well-maintained and look terrific, especially some of the renovated RVs from the 50s and 60s.. Like you said in the video, it seems like they were looking for an excuse not to let you into the park. Personally, I think you should have named the campground. You were stating factual information about your interaction with them. You were in no way being malicious. Safe travels!
Wow, just wow… Sounds like the owners/managers have a disconnect with the marketing company. I can see requiring a photo but to have a hard rule is just ridiculous. Glad to see this video to show people that “stuff” happens even to well seasoned travel veterans. Adapt and overcome….
In Québec (Canada), we often see an age restriction for those that are seasonal at a campground. They stay there and their camper or RV is not expected to move all summer. They often like to have newer models. For travellers like we are, they do not have an age restriction because we will stay for a week or two maybe at the top. Often we like to explorer and not be based at the same place.
I’ve never heard of any camp ground having an age restriction lol I’m from the Midwest and we drive through the local camp grounds just because we love camping and love seeing other ppls set ups. And we see some pretty fire vintage campers. Love seeing the verity and character that comes with camping.
This is definitely a challenge with RVing. The 55 + thing makes it very hard to find a spot in the south. I understand there is a demand for those communities but there is also a demand for younger family setups as well. It is so funny that they reached out to you but then turned you down.
40 years ago there were many campgrounds that accepted pets and any RV age, just NOT kids….lol. I was 12 at the time, and remember my parents searching for campgrounds in Nevada and Arizona that would accept “little old (relatively new, actually) me”. At the time, this restriction was unheard of in Canada. That’s my little story about RV park restrictions…
Yes. I am old now. I was a quiet little bookworm then, so I was accepted.
Wow thanks for the update on this camp ground. I wouldn't stay at that camp ground.
Wow... just wow. We have 1 dog & 4 cats (cats never go outside the RV) & an almost 10 year old motorhome. Not sure we would want to stay there! That campground is just too restrictive. There's so many other gorgeous places & campgrounds to visit.
Thanks for the video! We don't bother saying we have cats in our reservation requests.
We had several experiences like that when we had a horse trailer w/LQ... but it was a bit odd thou we were traveling without our horses. The KOAs did let us in but many independent RV parks would not. We figure it's their loss! 😂
No imaginary horses allowed-HA!
Thanks for your story. Pretty much informs us that this place is not a place that we would choose to stay at simply for their holier than thou attitude. Which raises the question . . . why be so discreet about their name?
Our goal with this video was not necessarily to trash these two campgrounds (they own two - one is a 55 plus in The Villages and one is in Tampa) but rather to bring awareness to the absurd policies these campgrounds (and many others) are enforcing. We have already received several emails from campground owners THANKING us for sharing our experience as it helps them in knowing how to BEST run their campgrounds. Thanks for watching and best wishes.