Is this a trial and error kind of thing for airplanes that dont have the turn coordinator instrument? Full glass G1000 doesnt seem to have a turn coordinator that i can find. Just the magenta turn rate indicator. I suppose i could fly around timing circles to determine the standard rate, but i must be he missing something....
Aaahhh classic. As soon as I ask someone, I find the answer. From the G1000 POH: The Turn Rate Indicator is located directly above the rotating compass card. Tick marks to the left and right of the lubber line denote half-standard and standard turn rates. A magenta Turn Rate Trend Vector shows the current turn rate. The end of the trend vector gives the heading predicted in 6 seconds, based on the present turn rate. A standard-rate turn is shown on the indicator by the trend vector stopping at the standard turn rate tick mark, corresponding to a predicted heading of 18˚ from the current heading. At rates greater than 4 deg/sec, an arrowhead appears at the end of the magenta trend vector and the prediction is no longer valid. Can't include a pic in my comment, but the tick marks it's talking about are the ones that lie above the magenta Turn Rate Trend Vector.
1:25 why make the calculation so complicated? You don't wanna know how many degrees will take one second, you wanna know how many seconds does it take to turn 1°. If you know that, you can easily determine any amount of degrees. Your's was only so simple because the degrees to turn was a multiple of 3 (or 30) if it had been something odd (like 127) you would have massive problems getting the result. Once you do it the other way around though ((120*127)/360) you can do it much faster. And if you want to do it even faster: it takes 1/3 of a second to turn 1°. Thus, if you wish to know how long it takes to turn left from 125 to 236 all you gotta do is (360-(236-125))/3 or in other words: devide [degrees to turn] by 3
The question as far as I interpret it is alluding to turning on partial panel using the timed turn method. You don’t need a 1 degree level of accuracy in those circumstances so knowing the number of seconds needed to turn through 10 and 30 degrees is enough to determine the amount of time to turn. If you can fly to a one degree level of accuracy with a gyro suction failure on a magnetic compass not directly in your line of sight, you are a better pilot than me for sure!
@@Taylair It's not about how accurate you can fly. It's about how many steps you need to calculate the required time. In your case I first need to determine the delta to turn. then I need to check how many 30° chunks and how many 10° chunks there are, then I need to keep track of all of that and then finally add everything up. By doing it the other way you determin the total delta and divide by three.150/3? easy, 50. 210 divided by 3? easy 70. 127 divided by 3? easy: ~42.
I understood first time what you meant, you didn’t have to repeat yourself 😂 I haven’t put the full partial panel perspective in my video because it was just a quick one but that’s the intent behind it. My way can be done in a partial panel scenario by glancing at a compass rose and adding up in 10s and then basically adding either 3 or 6 to it. I would bet you if we taught 10 students both methods 5 of yours would still be trying to work out the difference between the headings and at least 2 would then turn the wrong way while most of mine were already turning in the right direction having just counted it that direction around a compass rose. It does work pretty well honestly.
I appear to have said 330 instead of 300 when talking about the heading during the turn. I will of course surrender my pilots licence immediately!
“Always the best place for balls...” ok, the laugh you gave me got you a new subscriber from the moment alone.
Balls jokes seem to be more popular than I thought 😂
Thank you, these quickies are great!
Thank you for these videos, very informative!
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Is this a trial and error kind of thing for airplanes that dont have the turn coordinator instrument? Full glass G1000 doesnt seem to have a turn coordinator that i can find. Just the magenta turn rate indicator. I suppose i could fly around timing circles to determine the standard rate, but i must be he missing something....
Aaahhh classic. As soon as I ask someone, I find the answer. From the G1000 POH:
The Turn Rate Indicator is located directly above the rotating compass card. Tick marks to the left and right
of the lubber line denote half-standard and standard turn rates. A magenta Turn Rate Trend Vector shows the
current turn rate. The end of the trend vector gives the heading predicted in 6 seconds, based on the present
turn rate. A standard-rate turn is shown on the indicator by the trend vector stopping at the standard turn
rate tick mark, corresponding to a predicted heading of 18˚ from the current heading. At rates greater than 4
deg/sec, an arrowhead appears at the end of the magenta trend vector and the prediction is no longer valid.
Can't include a pic in my comment, but the tick marks it's talking about are the ones that lie above the magenta Turn Rate Trend Vector.
Yes, I point it out on some of my G1000 videos too!
@@Taylair nice!! Thanks I'll have to check them out to see what else I'm missing. :) Thanks for the videos.
1:25 why make the calculation so complicated? You don't wanna know how many degrees will take one second, you wanna know how many seconds does it take to turn 1°. If you know that, you can easily determine any amount of degrees.
Your's was only so simple because the degrees to turn was a multiple of 3 (or 30) if it had been something odd (like 127) you would have massive problems getting the result.
Once you do it the other way around though ((120*127)/360) you can do it much faster.
And if you want to do it even faster: it takes 1/3 of a second to turn 1°. Thus, if you wish to know how long it takes to turn left from 125 to 236 all you gotta do is (360-(236-125))/3 or in other words: devide [degrees to turn] by 3
The question as far as I interpret it is alluding to turning on partial panel using the timed turn method. You don’t need a 1 degree level of accuracy in those circumstances so knowing the number of seconds needed to turn through 10 and 30 degrees is enough to determine the amount of time to turn.
If you can fly to a one degree level of accuracy with a gyro suction failure on a magnetic compass not directly in your line of sight, you are a better pilot than me for sure!
@@Taylair It's not about how accurate you can fly. It's about how many steps you need to calculate the required time.
In your case I first need to determine the delta to turn. then I need to check how many 30° chunks and how many 10° chunks there are, then I need to keep track of all of that and then finally add everything up.
By doing it the other way you determin the total delta and divide by three.150/3? easy, 50. 210 divided by 3? easy 70. 127 divided by 3? easy: ~42.
I understood first time what you meant, you didn’t have to repeat yourself 😂 I haven’t put the full partial panel perspective in my video because it was just a quick one but that’s the intent behind it. My way can be done in a partial panel scenario by glancing at a compass rose and adding up in 10s and then basically adding either 3 or 6 to it. I would bet you if we taught 10 students both methods 5 of yours would still be trying to work out the difference between the headings and at least 2 would then turn the wrong way while most of mine were already turning in the right direction having just counted it that direction around a compass rose. It does work pretty well honestly.