Process philosophy is what everyone needs now... I never thought a guy driving a car would give me so much wisdom that it could answer the question which gave me 6 months of depression... Watched this for research but came out enlightened, process philosophy indeed.
This made me happy :-) thank for your comment on this vid. This for me is what doing philosophy is all about. “Philosophia aka love of wisdow. It is about finding joy in wisdom and a true insight. If my videos can inspire someones else thoughts. This is all that I wish for. I hope you will subscribe to my Channel and Watch some more of my videos.
I like how this is presented and that you use the word process to describe it because I can get it. And the idea to help you change things in your life.
Every thing must adapt or be changed by outside influences due to chaotic unpredictable interactions with nature's elements and other innumerable factors. The Universal Intelligence has set it up this way for maximum freedom and adventure. Peace and One Love.
Well thanks for your question. One can say, that change is the rule in the physical world does not mean that literally everything real changes. In fact, process philosophy recognizes a level of nomic permanence, something that reminds us of the notion of logos as conceived by Heraclitus and the Stoics. Process thinking and process philosophy does not assert that everything is in process; for that would mean that even the fact that things are in process is subject to change. There are unchanging principles of process and abstract forms. But to be actual is to be a process. Anything which is not a process is an abstraction from process, not a full-fledged actuality one can state. Whithead himself wrote: ”In the inescapable flux, there is something that abides; in the overwhelming permanence, there an element that escapes into flux. Permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts.” Hope this gives you a kind of answer to relation between mathematics and process philosophy.
Enjoyed the video and it really helped me (a newbie) understand it better, was wondering if you could point me to where I could better understand how "the past" is in process and how "God" is in process? Thanks
Hi Octavio Cortez. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. The past is in process in this way: time and the present is for the process philosopher a subjective state and the past is always the past to a new present and the past changes thus his character because the is always a new present that relates to a past. But that present relates differently to that past. Like earlier in the past that past viewed slavery differently than now in this present when looking at the past. It is an ever changing now that in every moment is always relative to a new history of the former and a new future for the future. God in process: You could read this book: www.amazon.com/Process-Theology-Introductory-John-Cobb/dp/0664247431 That's a good introduction to process theism and a theology of process. Process theology operates on the ones side from the perspective of Christian faith and on the other in the metaphysical context provided by process philosophy and its doctrine of God. Arguments for existence of God are not an essential part of its work. The Church gave onto God the attributes which belonged exclusively to Ceasar. For Whitehead , this is a mis- conception to perceive God as the omnipotent ruler, such as. Caesar in ancient times was considered . God is a process , and God is permanent . The world is fluently, World is permanent and God is fluently . God transcends the world and the world transcends God according Whitehead . God creates the world and the world creates God.
Process, change = differentiation or increasing entropy. Differentiation (thesis) is dual to integration (anti-thesis) -- The Hegelian dialectic Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy Teleological physics is dual to non-teleological physics. Energy is dual to mass -- Einstein Dark energy is dual to dark matter Inner tensions, stress, feelings, emotions = energy or duality. Tension, stress is energy in Einstein's theory of General relativity, an elastic band under tension requires two hands or perspectives. Energy is dual! Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy.
As a general policy, one should not use the same word as definition and as the object being defined. In other words, it would be better to eliminate the word "process" from this video since you are trying to define process. As an introduction, you might also try to explain how process thought differs from what is considered common sense. The contrast would make the distinctive features of process thought stand out more clearly.
As I write in the description of this video: It is made in the spirit of process philosophy. That means that my way of presenting the philosophy is in itself in-flux. I don't like a general policy - since for me, it is anti-processesual and a static methodology. I'm trying to use a philosophical method that is in itself in proces. - A fluctuating methodology that is not static (Or trying not to be). I think process philosophy is closer to a continental philosophy and Whitehead held art in high regards. So this is also an artistic presentation of "process philosophy". When defining a word or concept like 'process' the concept itself is in itself in a state of process. To quote A.N.Whitehead: “In philosophical discussion, the merest hint of dogmatic certainty as to finality of statement is an exhibition of folly.” (From the preface of Process and Reality). Yes, process philosophy is a "commen sense" in many respects, that is why it is so appealling to us!
Does the statement "Everything changes, nothing stays the same" ever change? If this truthity of this statement is fixed, your proposition is false. If it changes, your proposition is false. Therefore, there are things immutable, that never change.
I think it all depens on how we define change and the degree of change in qustion. On a first glance you are correct in your assement that the statement; "Everything changes, nothing stays the same" is false. I offen had speculated about that. But consider what do you mean by change and what is a change? What kind of change are we considering here? The statement on a semantic, liguistic level may change since the letters change from Language to language. From english to say german. (thats a change on some level). That also in statement: Everything changes, nothing stays the same" ever change. (Change at some kind of level or interpretation). The understanding you or somebody have of the statement: Everything changes, nothing stays the same = that may change and also the statement that: It is false that everything changes, nothing stays the same. (The understanding of this may change, so that is change at some level). And also to quote Whitehead on this very subject: ”In the inescapable flux, there is something that abides; in the overwhelming permanence, there an element that escapes into flux. Permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts.”
i came here after reading Haraway in which she said that Whitehead was one of her major influences. thanks for the video! ps. i'm weirdly attracted to you :3
The fact that many things change, that change exists, is not a very strong argument for saying that processial language is the best way to understand reality. Then very smoothly you go ahead and say that everything is "holy and radical open, anything may happen." That is taking it to far without argumenting for it. You might want to process your theory or approach.
This is an introduction to process philosophy, so there are limits to what I can explain in 23 minutes. First many thing change is inaccurate = Everything (All) changes. You can not find anything in the universe that does not change. - Like the electron explained in the video, many quantum scientist have concluded that processual thermonology is need also as way to explain quantum collapses and so on. Remember that in fact there is nothing wrong with the theory; that the laws of nature may change at some point, so anything is possible and the future is holy and radical open. Like say Trump winning the US election :-) Process philosophy stipulates that no matter what you try to understand: The mind, history, love, psychology, elections, communication and so on is best understood using a processual thermonology and a processual descriptation.
Okay, all things might change on some level. Still, you have no argument that processual thinking is the best way to understand reality. Thing do tend to also keep certain aspects during time. Processual thinking could add to a better understanding of reality. Why state that it's the best way? I don't read any argument for that.
Perhaps this quote from Alfred North Whitehead can help you understand the change and permanence concept of process thinking: "In the inescapable flux, there is something that abides; in the overwhelming permanence, there is an element that escapes into flux. Permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts". - Regards to the word 'best', - ok that's my word because for me it is the best way, so here I am bias, but your welcome to show me a better understanding that is not flawed in someway? So you can formulated as you did: "Processual thinking could add to a better understanding of reality" for sure.
Manja Ijs If you're looking for the nuts and bolts of process philosophy, a paper by Vincent Vesterby called "The Intrinsic Nature of Emergence" might be what you're looking for. In it he describes 3 different possible interactions of what he calls units, which could be quarks, steps in training an employee, or water filling up a dam and moving towards the spillway, to use a few of his examples. These units (one stationary and one fixed) can be; -moving away from each other (no interaction) - moving parallel (moving towards, reaching the closest point then moving away, with interaction at closest point) -moving directly at each other (greatest interaction). I think this helps me to understand the double slit experiment, as when the measurement is taken (moving directly at the beam of light) it interferes with the light, whereas with no measurement the photons go through the full range of possibilities as the Feynman diagrams show. The Philosopher: this is worthy of a video!
That river analogy is misleading because a person is also a process if you put a rock which is unchangeble and unmovable in the river the river will change its course and the river will stream along in different speeds and volum but not the rock stays the same a fixed point in a ever changing process.
Panentheism = all in God - is the belief that the divine intersects every part of the universe and also extends beyond space and time. Well it a certain kind of process philosophy there is NOTHING beyond time and space. That´s all there is, so process philosophy is about whole physical world. God is equivalent to world/universe itselt. So process philosophy IS a Pantheism = Pantheism is the philosophical and religious belief that reality, the universe, and nature are identical to divinity or a supreme entity. But it is all a matter of definitions and possible semantics ;-)
Process philosophy is what everyone needs now... I never thought a guy driving a car would give me so much wisdom that it could answer the question which gave me 6 months of depression... Watched this for research but came out enlightened, process philosophy indeed.
This made me happy :-) thank for your comment on this vid. This for me is what doing philosophy is all about. “Philosophia aka love of wisdow. It is about finding joy in wisdom and a true insight. If my videos can inspire someones else thoughts. This is all that I wish for. I hope you will subscribe to my Channel and Watch some more of my videos.
I like how this is presented and that you use the word process to describe it because I can get it. And the idea to help you change things in your life.
Thanks for comments James :-)
Thank you for sharing your insights.
Hi Gary. Thank you. I´ll be very pleased if you will subscribe to my channel.
Every thing must adapt or be changed by outside influences due to chaotic unpredictable interactions with nature's elements and other innumerable factors.
The Universal Intelligence has set it up this way for maximum freedom and adventure.
Peace and One Love.
When does 2+2 change to be 4?
Well thanks for your question. One can say, that change is the rule in the physical world does not mean that literally everything real changes. In fact, process philosophy recognizes a level of nomic permanence, something that reminds us of the notion of logos as conceived by Heraclitus and the Stoics. Process thinking and process philosophy does not assert that everything is in process; for that would mean that even the fact that things are in process is subject to change. There are unchanging principles of process and abstract forms. But to be actual is to be a process. Anything which is not a process is an abstraction from process, not a full-fledged actuality one can state. Whithead himself wrote: ”In the
inescapable flux, there is something that abides; in the overwhelming permanence, there an element that escapes into flux. Permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts.” Hope this gives you a kind of answer to relation between mathematics and process philosophy.
Enjoyed the video and it really helped me (a newbie) understand it better, was wondering if you could point me to where I could better understand how "the past" is in process and how "God" is in process? Thanks
Hi Octavio Cortez. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. The past is in process in this way: time and the present is for the process philosopher a subjective state and the past is always the past to a new present and the past changes thus his character because the is always a new present that relates to a past. But that present relates differently to that past. Like earlier in the past that past viewed slavery differently than now in this present when looking at the past. It is an ever changing now that in every moment is always relative to a new history of the former and a new future for the future.
God in process: You could read this book: www.amazon.com/Process-Theology-Introductory-John-Cobb/dp/0664247431 That's a good introduction to process theism and a theology of process. Process theology operates on the ones side from the perspective of
Christian faith and on the other in the metaphysical context provided by process philosophy and its doctrine of
God. Arguments for existence of God are not an essential part of its work. The Church gave onto God the attributes which belonged exclusively to Ceasar. For Whitehead , this is a mis- conception to perceive God as the omnipotent ruler, such as. Caesar in ancient times was considered . God is a process , and God is permanent . The world is fluently, World is permanent and God is fluently . God transcends the world and the world transcends God according Whitehead . God creates the world and the world creates God.
imagine that this moment is eternal..and there is no time passing. Everything that is..is a symptom of the vibrating universe.
Cool video
Thanks 🙂
Process, change = differentiation or increasing entropy.
Differentiation (thesis) is dual to integration (anti-thesis) -- The Hegelian dialectic
Syntropy is dual to increasing entropy
Teleological physics is dual to non-teleological physics.
Energy is dual to mass -- Einstein
Dark energy is dual to dark matter
Inner tensions, stress, feelings, emotions = energy or duality. Tension, stress is energy in Einstein's theory of General relativity, an elastic band under tension requires two hands or perspectives. Energy is dual! Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy.
In process ever changing and developing
Heraclitus: Life flows like a river.
0. Potential = Being
1. Actual = Becoming (actualized)
As a general policy, one should not use the same word as definition and as the object being defined. In other words, it would be better to eliminate the word "process" from this video since you are trying to define process. As an introduction, you might also try to explain how process thought differs from what is considered common sense. The contrast would make the distinctive features of process thought stand out more clearly.
As I write in the description of this video: It is made in the spirit of process philosophy. That means that my way of presenting the philosophy is in itself in-flux. I don't like a general policy - since for me, it is anti-processesual and a static methodology. I'm trying to use a philosophical method that is in itself in proces. - A fluctuating methodology that is not static (Or trying not to be).
I think process philosophy is closer to a continental philosophy and Whitehead held art in high regards. So this is also an artistic presentation of "process philosophy". When defining a word or concept like 'process' the concept itself is in itself in a state of process.
To quote A.N.Whitehead: “In philosophical discussion, the merest hint of dogmatic certainty as to finality
of statement is an exhibition of folly.” (From the preface of Process and Reality).
Yes, process philosophy is a "commen sense" in many respects, that is why it is so appealling to us!
Does the statement "Everything changes, nothing stays the same" ever change? If this truthity of this statement is fixed, your proposition is false. If it changes, your proposition is false. Therefore, there are things immutable, that never change.
I think it all depens on how we define change and the degree of change in qustion. On a first glance you are correct in your assement that the statement; "Everything changes, nothing stays the same" is false. I offen had speculated about that. But consider what do you mean by change and what is a change? What kind of change are we considering here? The statement on a semantic, liguistic level may change since the letters change from Language to language. From english to say german. (thats a change on some level). That also in statement: Everything changes, nothing stays the same" ever change. (Change at some kind of level or interpretation). The understanding you or somebody have of the statement: Everything changes, nothing stays the same = that may change and also the statement that: It is false that everything changes, nothing stays the same. (The understanding of this may change, so that is change at some level). And also to quote Whitehead on this very subject: ”In the inescapable flux, there is something that abides; in the overwhelming permanence, there an element that escapes into flux. Permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts.”
i came here after reading Haraway in which she said that Whitehead was one of her major influences. thanks for the video!
ps. i'm weirdly attracted to you :3
Thx Aaron ;-)
I forgot to ask, is the processual philosophy proposed by whitehead the same as the concept of processuality in anthropology?
I'm not familiar with concept of processuality in anthropology. Do you have link to an article and I can read about it and get back to you?
a western form of Buddhism?
Actually there is a book Emptiness and Becoming which is about Process philosophy and buddhistic thinking!
Interesting way of looking at it
The fact that many things change, that change exists, is not a very strong argument for saying that processial language is the best way to understand reality. Then very smoothly you go ahead and say that everything is "holy and radical open, anything may happen." That is taking it to far without argumenting for it. You might want to process your theory or approach.
This is an introduction to process philosophy, so there are limits to what I can explain in 23 minutes. First many thing change is inaccurate = Everything (All) changes. You can not find anything in the universe that does not change. - Like the electron explained in the video, many quantum scientist have concluded that processual thermonology is need also as way to explain quantum collapses and so on. Remember that in fact there is nothing wrong with the theory; that the laws of nature may change at some point, so anything is possible and the future is holy and radical open. Like say Trump winning the US election :-)
Process philosophy stipulates that no matter what you try to understand: The mind, history, love, psychology, elections, communication and so on is best understood using a processual thermonology and a processual descriptation.
Okay, all things might change on some level. Still, you have no argument that processual thinking is the best way to understand reality. Thing do tend to also keep certain aspects during time. Processual thinking could add to a better understanding of reality. Why state that it's the best way? I don't read any argument for that.
Perhaps this quote from Alfred North Whitehead can help you understand the change and permanence concept of process thinking: "In the inescapable flux, there is something that abides; in the overwhelming permanence, there is an element that escapes into flux. Permanence can be snatched only out of flux; and the passing moment can find its adequate intensity only by its submission to permanence. Those who would disjoin the two elements can find no interpretation of patent facts". - Regards to the word 'best', - ok that's my word because for me it is the best way, so here I am bias, but your welcome to show me a better understanding that is not flawed in someway? So you can formulated as you did: "Processual thinking could add to a better understanding of reality" for sure.
Manja Ijs If you're looking for the nuts and bolts of process philosophy, a paper by Vincent Vesterby called "The Intrinsic Nature of Emergence" might be what you're looking for. In it he describes 3 different possible interactions of what he calls units, which could be quarks, steps in training an employee, or water filling up a dam and moving towards the spillway, to use a few of his examples.
These units (one stationary and one fixed) can be;
-moving away from each other (no interaction)
- moving parallel (moving towards, reaching the closest point then moving away, with interaction at closest point)
-moving directly at each other (greatest interaction).
I think this helps me to understand the double slit experiment, as when the measurement is taken (moving directly at the beam of light) it interferes with the light, whereas with no measurement the photons go through the full range of possibilities as the Feynman diagrams show.
The Philosopher: this is worthy of a video!
That river analogy is misleading because a person is also a process if you put a rock which is unchangeble and unmovable in the river the river will change its course and the river will stream along in different speeds and volum but not the rock stays the same a fixed point in a ever changing process.
Panentheism; not pantheism.
Panentheism = all in God - is the belief that the divine intersects every part of the universe and also extends beyond space and time. Well it a certain kind of process philosophy there is NOTHING beyond time and space. That´s all there is, so process philosophy is about whole physical world. God is equivalent to world/universe itselt. So process philosophy IS a Pantheism = Pantheism is the philosophical and religious belief that reality, the universe, and nature are identical to divinity or a supreme entity. But it is all a matter of definitions and possible semantics ;-)
Sadly mostly tautological waffle and one is non the wiser about the nature of process philosophy after watching.