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String crossings via the fingers really is a stroke of genius. It's odd how the least efficient means of doing something are typically the mainstream. Thank you SO much for sharing your discoveries across so many thousands of hours of practice! 🤜🏻
Thanks so much! I picked that up from my old teacher Grigori Zhislin! Amazing violinist. I didn't really believe it when he was explaining it to back then, but years later I realized that he has been totally right all along :D My pleasure, more content coming soon!
I had a close friend who was an American violin soloist. He was Maestro Zukerman’s pupil before and he shared the exact same right hand techniques and exercises you showed in these video, it was painful at the beginning when I tried to control my bow with these Galamian style bow grip! I accidentally dropped my bow many times on my bed😂😂😂 it helped me to find my own sound few months later, at the end it also benefits my own solo and chamber music career a lot now! Language can’t express how grateful I am to my friend! I was surprised by you showed this “Bank Account” knowledge in your TH-cam channel for free which you can easily make tons of money with it. Wishing you more and more viewers on TH-cam channel!🎉
Thank you for your kind words! Glad to hear you found the video helpful! I was also a Zukerman student at Manhattan School of music. Did my Masters with him. That's where that came from 😂
I just started learning violin at the age of 67. I am struggling with ways of learning violin. Your ideas are very scientific and proving a great help to me during the lockdown period in Mumbai .India . Non availability of teacher to show in person the correct methods I was learning on my own. Good that I came across your videos . God will bless you musically .
Thank you for uploading this video, dude. I've been searching for a bow holding method that I can work with. I just tried this method and found that it gives me far better control over the bow and it helps me with keeping my pinky in the right position on top of the bow. You're a life saver.🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing these tips!!! I’ve been working on reforming how I hold/operate my bow and this video is a huge help!! Thank you!!! I love how you use this way of playing to bring out that deep, full, rich luscious sound (😍) that I absolutely adore as opposed to the now popular lighter sound (😣).
Can you please put these tutorial videos together in a playlist? And if it will be beginner to advanced that’s also would be great. Thank youu so much!
Wow! THE best video on bow hold/wrist action I've ever seen. I'm 8 months in learning the violin... a late in life(!) learner... and so want to get into good habits. My sound/intonation is mediocre at best and while one's finger positioning is key, without the right bow 'hold' and bow action, one won't make good sounds. I've heard about 'the rabbit' bow hold with the thumb between the ears but that doesn't work for me. Your thumb and middle finger forming a circle does. Trying to have both pinkie and thumb bent has always been an issue but this way is easier. Oh my, to have your flexibility of hand and wrist... It's a joy to behold... Thank you, Filip...
Thank you so much! Very happy to hear it was helpful! :) Also the finger flexibility is something that develops over time. I do not thing my hands are naturally very flexible. It's also building strength in your hand that helps with being able to curl your pinky while supporting the bow weight. Good luck with everything :)
@@filippogady And thank YOU for taking the trouble to respond, Filip! One day all this will be second nature along with my intonation, so then I'll be able to focus on my expression and musicality... Get back to me in 10 years!
This technique is similar to the teaching of Alexandre Brussilovsky in his DVD The Russian School. He doesn't spread his fingers, so that seems to be an optional element of the hold. That suits me, as personally my fingers simply don't want to spread, For additional freedom, he recommends placing the thumb on the leather rather than in the notch of the frog - though he concedes that this is controversial. From my own tentative experiments, this approach seems to rely on bow speed to compensate for the lack of pressure on the index finger. Brussilovsky argues that the lower pressure helps in tone production. Brussilovsky is a fine artist, as is Filip, so clearly it works for some. But if you do take this path, just be aware that it's unconventional and very few teachers will be able to help you with it - you're pretty much on your own.
Thank you for the comment! Yes I know a few people who hold the bow about half an inch higher, thus placing the thumb on the leather. The famous teacher Kuschnir in Vienna teaches this way. One of the benefits is supposed to be more control by the tip, as well. Some people really enjoy it and play amazingly well doing it, but it's not for me. The edge on the frog gives me a more stable feel for the bow. You can just try both and see what works better for you. As long as it sounds great and it feels good to you there is no right or wrong way :)
@@filippogady Yes - as you say it's the result that counts. Simon Fischer tells a humbling story of how as a young and eager teacher he watched a competition and it was won by a dazzling young violinist who was holding her bow spectacularly "wrong". Many say the same about Heifetz. And everyone says it about Spivakovsky. But it seemed to work for them!
Arm weight is usually used wrong- yes lifting arm high shouldn't be the solution but you need to have some space for the mobility. What I like to think about arm weight is actually shoulder-blade-weight, you can lift or drop your elbow as much as you want, but you will for sure sound good while playing from your back. Of course shoulder stays calm and down also.
Brilliant again! Thanks Filip. You mentioned string crossings entirely with fingers, but what about string skipping? E.g G string to A in a first passage for example? Would donate to your Patreon if the lowest level was less by the way, and wouldn't be surprised if you'd get a bunch more people there if there was a 1/2 dollars a month option, but just my opinion. I plan to say fuck it anyway and have weekly lessons some time in the future! All the best Filip.
Thanks Sam! Even when I skip strings I still apply those principles. Paganini caprice no. 2 would probably be a good example. Still very useful to keep your elbow low and use mostly the fingers. Also staying super close to the frog makes the distance that you have to travel between the strings smaller. Thanks for your input, will revise my tiers 🙌🏼
If my right hand is my bank account, that’s why I am so broken. I mean your bow grip and movement need time to understand. My bow grip is much more like2:22, but different from what the internet is saying , middle finger should do this, index finger should do that. I am taught to play with index and thumb only, and occasionally lift with picky or ring finger. Tbh the way my teacher taught me is fking me so hard, because I can’t just be told just relax your palm and gets my finger in position and play. I get what’s she is trying to do, less contact contributes better sound, but hard to act it.
Sounds like your hand position is closer to what is called the russian bow grip where you are leaning more towards your index. The reason why I don’t choose to play like that is that it gives me less control by the frog, which is where the actual power is, i feel like. Your bow hold is probably superior at the tip of the bow, though.
@@filippogady I asked my teacher about that, is it the Russian bow grip but she did say no, and said it is still a Franco-Belgian bow grip. But your video does inspire me, show some possibilities how to solve my problem. I mean my right hand has to sound less tense and more brighter sound.
That is a good question 😅. Well, as long as the teacher knows more than you, any guidance is better than NO guidance. There are many subtle differences in violin playing which everybody teaches differently, but eventually you will find your own way of doing it. It's always good to study with a teacher who's playing you respect, or who has great results with his/her students, that way you can trust in their ability to help you become the best violinist you can be.
String crossings via the fingers really is a stroke of genius. It's odd how the least efficient means of doing something are typically the mainstream. Thank you SO much for sharing your discoveries across so many thousands of hours of practice! 🤜🏻
Thanks so much! I picked that up from my old teacher Grigori Zhislin! Amazing violinist. I didn't really believe it when he was explaining it to back then, but years later I realized that he has been totally right all along :D
My pleasure, more content coming soon!
I had a close friend who was an American violin soloist. He was Maestro Zukerman’s pupil before and he shared the exact same right hand techniques and exercises you showed in these video, it was painful at the beginning when I tried to control my bow with these Galamian style bow grip! I accidentally dropped my bow many times on my bed😂😂😂 it helped me to find my own sound few months later, at the end it also benefits my own solo and chamber music career a lot now! Language can’t express how grateful I am to my friend! I was surprised by you showed this “Bank Account” knowledge in your TH-cam channel for free which you can easily make tons of money with it. Wishing you more and more viewers on TH-cam channel!🎉
Thank you for your kind words! Glad to hear you found the video helpful! I was also a Zukerman student at Manhattan School of music. Did my Masters with him. That's where that came from 😂
"The right hand is your bank account." Sounds like something Pinchas Zukerman would say haha. Great lesson! Love your sound!
Lol that’s exactly where it’s coming from. He was my teacher! 😂
@@filippogady wow that is amazing I would love to take a class with pinchas
Brings back memories with Zhislin... Great
Thanks for sharing your gems.
Your explanation is life saving. Please keep making videos for this series. Thank you!
Wow
Yeah dude
I just started learning violin at the age of 67.
I am struggling with ways of learning violin. Your ideas are very scientific and proving a great help to me during the lockdown period in Mumbai .India . Non availability of teacher to show in person the correct methods I was learning on my own. Good that I came across your videos . God will bless you musically .
You are one of the best teacher I ever seen on youtube, thanks a lot Maestro!! 😊
Interesting tips. Going into my notebook. Many thanks.
Another great video! Gratulujem TAK
TAK!!!!!
Your explanations are very very detailed. I have not seen this kind of clear insight in probably any other violin video. Thanks.
Wonderful video ! Beautiful editing and you are a fantastic and lighthearted teacher ! Thank you so much for sharing your time and wisdom
Thank you for uploading this video, dude. I've been searching for a bow holding method that I can work with. I just tried this method and found that it gives me far better control over the bow and it helps me with keeping my pinky in the right position on top of the bow. You're a life saver.🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thanks Filip. I’m keen to try out all of this. It’s important for me to be told WHY, rather then just ‘Do it this way’!
Found the perfect channel thank you so much
I'm your Korean fan!
I liked you so much that I found TH-cam and subscribed. Thank you for uploading this violin teaching video!
Love the comedy Mr. Pogady. 😅 keep ‘em coming!
hehe thanks Dennis! Hope all is well!
Can't wait to see more videos of you, Filip!
These are GREAT!
Thank you 🙏 Sharing looking forward to many more!!
Bagus sekali ! Matur suksma 🎻😇🌹
Great Video Filip! It is awesome to hear your thoughts behind the magic precisely articulated and presented. Keep them going! Zddd!
Very helpful, Filip,Thanks, for the humor too!!
Bravo !!!
Rien qu'à regarder vos coups d'archets on avance
Cette vidéos est d'un grand secours
Merci beaucoup !
Amazing content Filip. Very detailed and valuable instruction. Thank you for sharing!
Very useful lecture really, thanks maestro…
Wow, thank you for sharing this knowledge!
My pleasure 🤗
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing these tips!!! I’ve been working on reforming how I hold/operate my bow and this video is a huge help!! Thank you!!! I love how you use this way of playing to bring out that deep, full, rich luscious sound (😍) that I absolutely adore as opposed to the now popular lighter sound (😣).
Thanks Erica! Sounds like we have the same ideals when it comes to sound! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Can you please put these tutorial videos together in a playlist? And if it will be beginner to advanced that’s also would be great. Thank youu so much!
I enjoyed the lesson. But am having a hard time changing the angle of my hand to leaning toward the pinky
Wow! THE best video on bow hold/wrist action I've ever seen. I'm 8 months in learning the violin... a late in life(!) learner... and so want to get into good habits. My sound/intonation is mediocre at best and while one's finger positioning is key, without the right bow 'hold' and bow action, one won't make good sounds. I've heard about 'the rabbit' bow hold with the thumb between the ears but that doesn't work for me. Your thumb and middle finger forming a circle does. Trying to have both pinkie and thumb bent has always been an issue but this way is easier. Oh my, to have your flexibility of hand and wrist... It's a joy to behold... Thank you, Filip...
Thank you so much! Very happy to hear it was helpful! :)
Also the finger flexibility is something that develops over time. I do not thing my hands are naturally very flexible. It's also building strength in your hand that helps with being able to curl your pinky while supporting the bow weight. Good luck with everything :)
@@filippogady And thank YOU for taking the trouble to respond, Filip! One day all this will be second nature along with my intonation, so then I'll be able to focus on my expression and musicality... Get back to me in 10 years!
Thank you... What is the exercise that you used in this video?
This technique is similar to the teaching of Alexandre Brussilovsky in his DVD The Russian School. He doesn't spread his fingers, so that seems to be an optional element of the hold. That suits me, as personally my fingers simply don't want to spread, For additional freedom, he recommends placing the thumb on the leather rather than in the notch of the frog - though he concedes that this is controversial.
From my own tentative experiments, this approach seems to rely on bow speed to compensate for the lack of pressure on the index finger. Brussilovsky argues that the lower pressure helps in tone production.
Brussilovsky is a fine artist, as is Filip, so clearly it works for some. But if you do take this path, just be aware that it's unconventional and very few teachers will be able to help you with it - you're pretty much on your own.
Thank you for the comment! Yes I know a few people who hold the bow about half an inch higher, thus placing the thumb on the leather. The famous teacher Kuschnir in Vienna teaches this way. One of the benefits is supposed to be more control by the tip, as well. Some people really enjoy it and play amazingly well doing it, but it's not for me. The edge on the frog gives me a more stable feel for the bow. You can just try both and see what works better for you. As long as it sounds great and it feels good to you there is no right or wrong way :)
@@filippogady Yes - as you say it's the result that counts. Simon Fischer tells a humbling story of how as a young and eager teacher he watched a competition and it was won by a dazzling young violinist who was holding her bow spectacularly "wrong". Many say the same about Heifetz. And everyone says it about Spivakovsky. But it seemed to work for them!
Is that a Codabow Diamond GX?
Arm weight is usually used wrong- yes lifting arm high shouldn't be the solution but you need to have some space for the mobility. What I like to think about arm weight is actually shoulder-blade-weight, you can lift or drop your elbow as much as you want, but you will for sure sound good while playing from your back. Of course shoulder stays calm and down also.
Agree. Using arm weight does NOT mean the arm has to be low. Actually a bit of pronation can help, slightly lifting the elbow
What kinda hair is it that you're using on your bow?
Could you put the name of the pieces you played in the video please
Good idea! Will do in the upcoming videos :)
ah ! codabow! i have my joule
I hope you come to Turkey for a cancert video I liked o lot...
Thanks :)
I hope so too! Had a great time there when i played there last 🤗 🇹🇷
@@filippogady great, glad to hear that🌸💞
Brilliant again! Thanks Filip. You mentioned string crossings entirely with fingers, but what about string skipping? E.g G string to A in a first passage for example?
Would donate to your Patreon if the lowest level was less by the way, and wouldn't be surprised if you'd get a bunch more people there if there was a 1/2 dollars a month option, but just my opinion. I plan to say fuck it anyway and have weekly lessons some time in the future! All the best Filip.
Thanks Sam! Even when I skip strings I still apply those principles. Paganini caprice no. 2 would probably be a good example. Still very useful to keep your elbow low and use mostly the fingers. Also staying super close to the frog makes the distance that you have to travel between the strings smaller.
Thanks for your input, will revise my tiers 🙌🏼
If my right hand is my bank account, that’s why I am so broken. I mean your bow grip and movement need time to understand.
My bow grip is much more like2:22, but different from what the internet is saying , middle finger should do this, index finger should do that. I am taught to play with index and thumb only, and occasionally lift with picky or ring finger.
Tbh the way my teacher taught me is fking me so hard, because I can’t just be told just relax your palm and gets my finger in position and play.
I get what’s she is trying to do, less contact contributes better sound, but hard to act it.
Sounds like your hand position is closer to what is called the russian bow grip where you are leaning more towards your index. The reason why I don’t choose to play like that is that it gives me less control by the frog, which is where the actual power is, i feel like. Your bow hold is probably superior at the tip of the bow, though.
@@filippogady I asked my teacher about that, is it the Russian bow grip but she did say no, and said it is still a Franco-Belgian bow grip. But your video does inspire me, show some possibilities how to solve my problem. I mean my right hand has to sound less tense and more brighter sound.
Great video. But how can I learn when NO teacher ever agrees with another teacher on ANYTHING?
That is a good question 😅. Well, as long as the teacher knows more than you, any guidance is better than NO guidance. There are many subtle differences in violin playing which everybody teaches differently, but eventually you will find your own way of doing it. It's always good to study with a teacher who's playing you respect, or who has great results with his/her students, that way you can trust in their ability to help you become the best violinist you can be.
So bottom line, "don't shake your moneymaker".
I make more money than a violinist ever would make lol
Hey, violist here. Are you usually playing with the Coda bow?
Yes, it's my main playing bow right now and I actually really like it. It's very sturdy 😁
@@filippogady thanks for the answer! I'm ordering Coda Marquise GS for a trial next week!
@@zec2006 I like the Marquise, I briefly owned one! I think it sounds a little warmer/better than the Diamond GX, but I preferred the feel of the GX.
@@filippogady how is that you prefere to play with Coda and not for example some Sartory? :) Is it feel, price or something else?