I love seeing success in terms of melee even though we need that hit cap removed during zerk. They really missed a chance to make a greater berserk codex with this boss. Keep it up and I'll keep watching
I mean...they could still add it, just requiring Zaros comps instead of Cywir? also, as for its effect, instead of lengthening the duration (which is what havoc robes do) it can double the max hit? so 20k regular, 24k crits and up to 30k w/ grimoire. Still no effect on bleeds though cos that would be too much.
@@Pearcinator at this point i just want something that helps melee. they gave us a 4 piece set after releasing a helm to help us with adren gain. With that we either have to sacrifice the helm slot and get extended zerk, or just not use the bleed helm. I guess the 2 piece set effect is nice if you zerk then overpower you get 20% back making overpower a 40% ult, but there could be more..I really like the thought of lifting the max cap during zerk though.
@@UnGudGaming havoc set should be a zerk build (big single hits) while jaws of abyss is bleed build (small hits but in great quantities)...we don't have a bleed armour set though, just the helm. Also, I forgot about the Leng spec. Imagine if that stacked with greater zerk! With grim you could theoretically hit 39K crits! Would be epic to see (especially if you hit 2 crits with overpower...78K damage in 1 tick!)
@@UnGudGaming bro they missed the opportunity to improve melee to an extent i think they hate melee. For example, why are the new arrows allowed a stack of TWO HUNDRED, and the effects wont go away for 30s even if you dont attack. Scourge has 50 stacks and dissappears after 9s and honestly its supereasy to lose stacks. FSOA got released for mage and it absoloutely hit like a truck. Now we got a new powerarmor, with the plot of freaking t70 defence. I dont wanna be a whiner but if anyones played w tmw… i mean you get the rest… t70? Really? Why does melee always need a handicap? Seeing how freaking powerful mage is, they really coulda done something nicer with that zerk extention. 6s…? Cmon dude.
@@Pearcinator also its extra dumb to release a new arm when they just had a helm release, one either becomes useless or it becomes switchscape even more…
@@Joelsmediahere Yeah, the EoF EZK is to get the spear effect for the spec, while the physical EZK is for the T95 stats. On the second cycle of runes you have all the time you want to use, so setting up Igneous Cleave has no downside. The benefit on the second cycle is definitely marginal though, since you'll only get a couple hits of the bleed in before the boss either dies or kills you.
Wait you dont debil / reflect or anything for p7? Just tank w food? Coz i debil for his autos and i still get consumed so thinking i might skip that and just straight dps instead… also what order do you do the edicts for past 100%? Ik i can just rewatch butttt 🙃
The longer it takes to kill the runes, the more damage Zammy will deal. Here I kill the runes fast enough to be able to get through the attacks with little defensive use. It's also worth noting that the TMW set effect which delays damage is really good for keeping HP above the execute line. For the edicts order I did 2-1-6-4-5-3 in this kill, but I've since started to do 4-2-6-3-5-1 (numbers representing the order of runes under the boss HP bar, or from east to west). Starting with the 4th edict seems to make defensive abilities a bit more helpful in P7, which is helpful for pushing enrage.
@@Onyksi thanks ill have a go at it. My kills are flawless in terms of food use I dont touch any piece of food on 100% for the edicts but p7 just does me mercilessly. Im not the type to ever complain, but it seems zamzams p7 is way unbalanced rn. Either theres something we havent figured out yet or its gotta be fixed. Worst part is cant even zerk bc the red bomb…
fello melee'r here. for the last phase(7) I noticed you stalled killing runes a little for the second smoke is that for a particular reason? also what is your rune order?
I stall killing the second set of runes to set up a pre-EZK spec for more damage on the second cycle. I did 2-1-6-4-5-3 in this kill, but I've since started to do 4-2-6-3-5-1 (numbers representing the order of runes under the boss HP bar, or from east to west).
The red bar that fills up during P7 is how much damage you end up taking from the big typeless hits, so killing the runes fast enough prevents the bar from filling, meaning you'll take little damage. On my first cycle in this kill, Zammy charged 6480 damage, so I was able to tank it with just vitality potion, disruption shield, resonance and spam-eating.
@@Onyksi Thanks, I've still been trying, but had no luck, Just cant seem to survive the danage at all, and im killing the runes as fast as i can, ive been using Debilitate also, is that worth using?
@@conmar30 If you're relying on defensives to survive P7, you should charge the 4th edict first as that hex reduces the effectiveness of defensives. This way you'll have the minimum amount of stacks on P7 and abilities like Debilitate will be more worthwhile to use there.
Certain parts of the fight give the player a fixed attack range (not sure on the exact number of tiles, probably 8 or 9), meaning you can damage stuff from far away even with Melee. It's definitely a unique mechanic and can look pretty bizarre if you don't know about it already.
Rune of Destruction (when Zammy says "You're already dead") gives the player a fixed attack range (I think it's 9 tiles), so you can attack from a distance even with Melee. This video is from the day after release, and back then P7 was bugged and also had this interaction.
In the final phase where he's throwing red orbs at you, you just pray melee and basically tank / out eat the damage? Every time I get into that phase I res bomb then get immediately killed by his following attacks
Yes. Melee prayer to reduce some damage from the melee hits, and spam-eating food to live through the rest of the attacks. The longer it takes to kill the runes, the more damage Zammy will deal, so the start of P7 is essentially a burst DPS check.
Nice vid man, I enjoyed watching this with melee :) I'm on 90% solo melee and I'm struggling to get past final phase on 100%. Getting to it isn't an issue but usually after I kill the runes, vit pot the red smoke, I just get rinsed, by the second smoke and his hard hitting autos, really messes my dps as well. Any tips lad, for countering second smoke and dealing with the damage?
Some damage reduction effects like Spirit shields and Hellhound familiar work on the smoke hits, so bringing those could help with surviving the attacks. Killing the runes as fast as you can also means Zammy will hurt less, so good DPS there is equally important.
@@MAZisDEAD dam melee looks so difficult… i do it with mage but tbh i died and failed like 50 times before i was finally able to get consistent kills… got 240kc and if i fail to 1 cycle with mage then its over idk how people do 2 cycles
I haven't been able to find a solo 100% anywhere on YT. What exactly is going on during the final phase? You just kill the Hex he brings to himself, hit home some and then repeat?
Pretty much. After killing all the correct hexes in order Zammy becomes damageable, and he will also start attacking you with melee/typeless attacks. If Zammy isn't killed during this damage period, the phase repeats from the start.
Do you think this is doable without endgame gear? Something around t90 equipments and not having all combat upgrades unlocked yet. If not then is normal mode doable for that?
@@friz_official With practice, 90% and below in basic gear should be doable no problem. Based on what's known about P7 right now, I'd say the major endgame upgrades which help with DPS are vital to making 100%+ manageable, so doing that with t90s would be very difficult at the very least.
@@Onyksi is it a problem though? I mean top priority is to go to rune and back to zammy so you can stun as early as possible and then disrupt reso. Then deal with the demon. Idk i dont get it?
@@abdoali51 If making it to do the stun in time is tight, then it would be better to just instantly go back, otherwise it doesn't really matter if you take a bit longer to kill the demon.
![Flawless TzKal-Zuk (HM) [No food/Melee]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Us_W6jo0qXk/mqdefault.jpg)
I love seeing success in terms of melee even though we need that hit cap removed during zerk. They really missed a chance to make a greater berserk codex with this boss. Keep it up and I'll keep watching
I mean...they could still add it, just requiring Zaros comps instead of Cywir?
also, as for its effect, instead of lengthening the duration (which is what havoc robes do) it can double the max hit? so 20k regular, 24k crits and up to 30k w/ grimoire. Still no effect on bleeds though cos that would be too much.
@@Pearcinator at this point i just want something that helps melee. they gave us a 4 piece set after releasing a helm to help us with adren gain. With that we either have to sacrifice the helm slot and get extended zerk, or just not use the bleed helm. I guess the 2 piece set effect is nice if you zerk then overpower you get 20% back making overpower a 40% ult, but there could be more..I really like the thought of lifting the max cap during zerk though.
@@UnGudGaming havoc set should be a zerk build (big single hits) while jaws of abyss is bleed build (small hits but in great quantities)...we don't have a bleed armour set though, just the helm.
Also, I forgot about the Leng spec. Imagine if that stacked with greater zerk! With grim you could theoretically hit 39K crits! Would be epic to see (especially if you hit 2 crits with overpower...78K damage in 1 tick!)
@@UnGudGaming bro they missed the opportunity to improve melee to an extent i think they hate melee.
For example, why are the new arrows allowed a stack of TWO HUNDRED, and the effects wont go away for 30s even if you dont attack. Scourge has 50 stacks and dissappears after 9s and honestly its supereasy to lose stacks.
FSOA got released for mage and it absoloutely hit like a truck. Now we got a new powerarmor, with the plot of freaking t70 defence. I dont wanna be a whiner but if anyones played w tmw… i mean you get the rest… t70? Really? Why does melee always need a handicap?
Seeing how freaking powerful mage is, they really coulda done something nicer with that zerk extention. 6s…? Cmon dude.
@@Pearcinator also its extra dumb to release a new arm when they just had a helm release, one either becomes useless or it becomes switchscape even more…
Amazing work old friend! Keep doing your best as you push higher and higher!
Props to this guy for not only the great vid, but answering all the questions too! Glgl on drops
That looked so intense toward the end. He hits so hard!!!
The legend is back at it again
What ability are you using at 9:04? Is that pulverize?
"Igneous Cleave", the Ek-Zekkil special attack (via EoF).
The animation for it is actually based on the Pulverise animation, so they look similar.
@@Onyksi right on thx for info! And dam you own two? Do you always go with igneous cleave before finishing edict?
@@Joelsmediahere Yeah, the EoF EZK is to get the spear effect for the spec, while the physical EZK is for the T95 stats.
On the second cycle of runes you have all the time you want to use, so setting up Igneous Cleave has no downside. The benefit on the second cycle is definitely marginal though, since you'll only get a couple hits of the bleed in before the boss either dies or kills you.
As a Melee main who just did a 90% and is terrified to do the upcoming 100, I thank you for the hope
Great video, very good player !
Hell yeah keep the melee hencher vids coming
Crazy dps! Even though I mage, I learned a lot, thank you!
whats that head gear called ????
Jaws of the Abyss
idk what the fuck is happening because i dont play runescape, i only play osrs but nice dude!
Wait you dont debil / reflect or anything for p7? Just tank w food? Coz i debil for his autos and i still get consumed so thinking i might skip that and just straight dps instead… also what order do you do the edicts for past 100%? Ik i can just rewatch butttt 🙃
The longer it takes to kill the runes, the more damage Zammy will deal. Here I kill the runes fast enough to be able to get through the attacks with little defensive use. It's also worth noting that the TMW set effect which delays damage is really good for keeping HP above the execute line.
For the edicts order I did 2-1-6-4-5-3 in this kill, but I've since started to do 4-2-6-3-5-1 (numbers representing the order of runes under the boss HP bar, or from east to west). Starting with the 4th edict seems to make defensive abilities a bit more helpful in P7, which is helpful for pushing enrage.
@@Onyksi thanks ill have a go at it. My kills are flawless in terms of food use I dont touch any piece of food on 100% for the edicts but p7 just does me mercilessly.
Im not the type to ever complain, but it seems zamzams p7 is way unbalanced rn. Either theres something we havent figured out yet or its gotta be fixed. Worst part is cant even zerk bc the red bomb…
fello melee'r here. for the last phase(7) I noticed you stalled killing runes a little for the second smoke is that for a particular reason? also what is your rune order?
I stall killing the second set of runes to set up a pre-EZK spec for more damage on the second cycle.
I did 2-1-6-4-5-3 in this kill, but I've since started to do 4-2-6-3-5-1 (numbers representing the order of runes under the boss HP bar, or from east to west).
Are you able to explain exactly what u used and where to surrvive p7? im getting fed up of being one shot after using 15 differnt defensives
The red bar that fills up during P7 is how much damage you end up taking from the big typeless hits, so killing the runes fast enough prevents the bar from filling, meaning you'll take little damage.
On my first cycle in this kill, Zammy charged 6480 damage, so I was able to tank it with just vitality potion, disruption shield, resonance and spam-eating.
@@Onyksi Thanks, I've still been trying, but had no luck, Just cant seem to survive the danage at all, and im killing the runes as fast as i can, ive been using Debilitate also, is that worth using?
@@conmar30 If you're relying on defensives to survive P7, you should charge the 4th edict first as that hex reduces the effectiveness of defensives. This way you'll have the minimum amount of stacks on P7 and abilities like Debilitate will be more worthwhile to use there.
How do you melee from 6 tiles away sometimes?
Certain parts of the fight give the player a fixed attack range (not sure on the exact number of tiles, probably 8 or 9), meaning you can damage stuff from far away even with Melee. It's definitely a unique mechanic and can look pretty bizarre if you don't know about it already.
How did attack from a distance with melee?
Rune of Destruction (when Zammy says "You're already dead") gives the player a fixed attack range (I think it's 9 tiles), so you can attack from a distance even with Melee.
This video is from the day after release, and back then P7 was bugged and also had this interaction.
Can u please do a melee guide??
damn seeing this makes me realise how much i suck at pvm, lol im even struggling at helwyr. good work on the boss though
In the final phase where he's throwing red orbs at you, you just pray melee and basically tank / out eat the damage?
Every time I get into that phase I res bomb then get immediately killed by his following attacks
Yes. Melee prayer to reduce some damage from the melee hits, and spam-eating food to live through the rest of the attacks.
The longer it takes to kill the runes, the more damage Zammy will deal, so the start of P7 is essentially a burst DPS check.
@@Onyksi Thank you :)
Nice vid man, I enjoyed watching this with melee :)
I'm on 90% solo melee and I'm struggling to get past final phase on 100%.
Getting to it isn't an issue but usually after I kill the runes, vit pot the red smoke, I just get rinsed, by the second smoke and his hard hitting autos, really messes my dps as well.
Any tips lad, for countering second smoke and dealing with the damage?
Some damage reduction effects like Spirit shields and Hellhound familiar work on the smoke hits, so bringing those could help with surviving the attacks. Killing the runes as fast as you can also means Zammy will hurt less, so good DPS there is equally important.
@@Onyksi Cheers for the tips
@@MAZisDEAD dam melee looks so difficult… i do it with mage but tbh i died and failed like 50 times before i was finally able to get consistent kills… got 240kc and if i fail to 1 cycle with mage then its over idk how people do 2 cycles
God damn that hud...
I haven't been able to find a solo 100% anywhere on YT. What exactly is going on during the final phase? You just kill the Hex he brings to himself, hit home some and then repeat?
Pretty much. After killing all the correct hexes in order Zammy becomes damageable, and he will also start attacking you with melee/typeless attacks. If Zammy isn't killed during this damage period, the phase repeats from the start.
Why do u use Reaver's ring instead of champion ring w/ enchantment?
At the time of recording I hadn't bought the upgrade yet. The enchanted Champion's is absolutely better than the Reaver's ring.
wow amazing! what specs you got in your eof?
Red one has an EZK and orange one has Dhally.
Never thought of the dhally but that would help w the dungeon runs alot. Big brain
Are the red blast in the last phase melee ?
Nah, they seem to be typeless. I just wasn't changing prayers properly.
Do you think this is doable without endgame gear? Something around t90 equipments and not having all combat upgrades unlocked yet. If not then is normal mode doable for that?
You don't have to deal with the last phase in normal mode
@@ardentlight7958 yeah i know. I'm asking if the whole boss fight is doable or not with subpar gear.
@@friz_official With practice, 90% and below in basic gear should be doable no problem.
Based on what's known about P7 right now, I'd say the major endgame upgrades which help with DPS are vital to making 100%+ manageable, so doing that with t90s would be very difficult at the very least.
@@Onyksi okay thanks that helps alot. really love your melee content
Why do you keep hitting the boss after his hp turns grey
Whenever you charge an edict, whatever grey HP was left turns into the red shield for the next phase, so it's all damage you have to do anyway.
@@Onyksi when zammy places a rune on you and teles why do you kill demon and nor go straight to that rune
@@abdoali51 If you let the demon be, it'll move up to where Zammy is and start attacking you there.
@@Onyksi is it a problem though? I mean top priority is to go to rune and back to zammy so you can stun as early as possible and then disrupt reso. Then deal with the demon. Idk i dont get it?
@@abdoali51 If making it to do the stun in time is tight, then it would be better to just instantly go back, otherwise it doesn't really matter if you take a bit longer to kill the demon.
sick
Hench af
this does not look like Runescape at all
cuz its not
Lol, what r u on about, go back to where u can count pixels 07 players...