This is a great follow-up video and thank you for the guidance! I picked up a similar jack for nearly nothing off Marketplace for my son and wanted to replace the pump O-ring seal before giving it to him. If I might, I'd like to offer a couple of additional tips that I found helpful regarding removal and replacement of the O-ring. - Pump up the jack before you begin...at least half way. That will avoid the flood of oil when you remove the plunger. - Once the plunger is removed, pull out enough hydraulic oil from the pump cavity to clearly see the O-ring and plastic retainer. - Polish the plunger shaft on a wire wheel and then with steel wool to a shine. Also, polish the lead-in chamfer on the plunger...this is rough machined and could abrade the O-ring upon insertion. - Grab a 1/4" wood dowel and round the end. Instead of using a screwdriver which may cut or nick the new O-ring, maneuver the new O-ring into the groove below the plastic spacer using the rounded end. - Before reinstalling the plunger, open the jack and push down on the jack pad. This will push some oil out of the plunger port and purge any remaining contaminants in the plunger area.
I must say how much I appreciate your floor jack repair video. Mine looks almost identical, only in red, manufactured by Rodac (NL) FYI: for those in Europe looking for the size of the o-ring: it's a 16mm x 4 mm (inner diameter x thickness)
@mikecurtis3333 De nada! Mi casa es tu casa ;-) Already on to my next repair and learn challenge: chainsaw carburettor throttle adjustment whilst avoiding tennis arm sensation.
My jack would not hold pressure very long. The book said bleed it by having jack arm released all the way down, then open the filler plug and put your foot on front wheels, then pull the jacking arm all the way up by hand. While up, put filler plug back in, lower jack arm with the handle release then jack up something. It fixed mine ... no more slowly dropping down.. Didn't have to pump anything looking for air bubbles and stuff.
This is exactly where my jack is leaking from. It's a very old craftsman 3 ton that was in the basement when I moved in so decided to clean and paint it and it looks and works great. Used it many many times and now just developed the leak. It's a strong jack, no reason to get rid of it if I can fix it easy enough.
@@WJHandyDad I saw the o-ring package says Buna 90, is that 90A hardness? Im coming across both 90A and 70A type o-rings. Think it matters? the 70A I can find locally, they sell #94 which is 5/8-7/8-1/8 also.
Bought a brand new jack and immediately started leaking fluids from the pump. It doesn't have a gear like that one. It won't even lock...it keeps free spinning either direction. Dusted off the junk one i found on the side of the road and sprayed it with some PB blast, and the thing worked like a charm. I'll be using this vid to service it and im returning the new one
Thank you. I have this exact same jack, but mine is a 3.5 ton and is black and gold. I bough the full rebuild kit from HRC for under $40 because mine leaks internally.
I have a smaller condition of what you had with the leaking piston. Where about's might I find the o-ring or even a set of o-rings if I wanted to match it up with what I have - which are two Allied 3.5 ton jacks. Thanks for making these floor jack videos! It motivated me to get both of mine working better.
I have two 3 ton Floor Jacks, one was a Freebee, because they said it didn't work, but it didn't have the lifting Plate that fits in the hole in the top, where it meets the car frame. But got the jack lifting by filling the 3 access holes for the fluid. 2 screw out holes, and the rubber plug in the cylinder. So now I had find a similar jack with a lift Plate to fit this one. Found one on Offer Up, that they said it wouldn't lift, cost me $25, Plate fit perfectly. Then I filled and bleed the other jack, and got it working too. Took the 2 big front wheels off cleaned them up, oiled them, then went to the 2 little wheels on the back. WARNING: A nut and lock washer holds them on the Frame, and I thought it had captivated bearings, it didn't, it had a top and bottom bearing plates with 19 little ball bearings in between, and I had to chase all these little ball bearing across the floor. So be careful if you remove the 2 little back wheels. I cleaned the plates, put grease in the groves or both plates and placed the ball bearings in them and held them together till I put the wheels back on the jack frame. Great Video, saved them both for future use. Thank You.
Thanks for the reply. I have watched some more videos and am still none the wiser. I'm taking it to bits yet again shortly. I am still certain everything is in the right place and nice new seals fitted. This is embarrassing as there are so few parts.
I've got this same jack - first repaired it about 4 years ago using this video as a guide. Now it's leaking again but the nylon O-ring (the second one in the groove) appears to be bent and buggered up so much that it won't allow the new rubber O-ring to slip into place. Wondering if maybe just the rubber O-ring can suffice?
Very good vid mate, i had the wrong size o ring from halfords but it still fit eventually and once oiled was smooth, my jack was full of water and was completely buggered
good update. i see you edited put where you remove the piston pump and throw on the floor. that would of course scratch the shaft of the pump and in turn damage the new o ring. cool vid.
Great Video ! Can you tell me how to adjust the DO NOT ADJUST screw with the Orange DO NOT ADJUST cap over it. I adjusted mine before I saw your video. Thanks !! Greg
I have this same jack but it is a Blue Point version 2.5T. It didn't leak but finally stopped lifting so I stripped it down totally before I found this video. The problem was that the main seal on the piston had disintegrated. I have replaced this from a local supplier and put all the little springs and balls back where they came from. I have refilled it with hydraulic oil but now I can't get it to lift at all. The pump seems to be working but there is no sign of lift. Is there something that I may have missed? How can I be certain all the air has been expelled? The video was great, bit I'm missing something.
@@WJHandyDad I'm going to take it all to bits again and see if anything has become misplaced. It's strange that the effort on the handle suddenly changed when I was trying to pump it up. Something's amiss.
@@WJHandyDad Hello again, I have lost count of the number of times I have stripped this jack down and every time it fails to lift or even attempt to lift. It is just like the pump is doing nothing.. I have the exploded diagram of all the parts and everything seems to be there and in the right place and it's filled with oil. All the seals have been replaced. The big ball is on top of the small ball and the safety valve is assembled correctly. The small ball is under the up/down valve. Are there any other valves or balls hiding anywhere? I am desperate to get it going again as I have some work for it. Can someone please suggest what I might be missing or doing wrong? Any suggestion is welcomed.
I put a link in the video to the o ring that fit mine. No guarantees yours is the same. I had to special order mine because I bought several sets of o rings and none of them were correct. I found my size by taking the old o ring and holding it over a ruler
@@WJHandyDad Well. Mine ended up using 2 different sizes and by dumb luck, I bought them! Can't do a test until I see how to bleed it, but that can wait for tomorrow. Plus I forgot to get more fluid. 😋
@@sethvaughn6316 glad you were able to get it fixed. The fill and bleed should go smoothly. I've replaced my o-ring 1 time since I filmed this video and the jack still works like brand new
Looks like your floor jack is identical to mine. I removed the oil plug and added oil, and then purged the air, but I could not get that original oil plug back into it's hole no matter what I did. Wondering whether you had a similar problem, and if so how did you finally get that plug back in.
@@WJHandyDad Could be that my rubber plug is very old and very hard, and therefore not pliable enough to squeeze back into the oil fill hole. Will order a new plug that hopefully will fit. Thanks for your response.
I would say the real test would be to test the jack under load. My jack also does not leak when not under load and pumps properly. But as soos as you push it to 500kg-1ton it stats to leak at that o ring again :(
I replaced the o-ring one time since I filmed the original video, but that jack still works great. I show it picking up my Avalanche in the final bleed video
I have the same one and probably bought it early 90's. I am going to completely rebuild/paint it. Is there a kit number to replace all the seals? Thank you.
How do you know what oring size to order? do they have numbers on them?I mean it's not jacks are cars where you can order spareparts by just searching under the make. How do you go about this?
my 05 Craftsman has a double lip upper dust seal and below that is a groove for the o-ring and a plastic washer under it. And unfortunately the new o-ring does not want to fit in the groove with the plastic washer. I may try removing the plastic washer.
hope you get it - it can be tricky. I heard someone else mention putting the o-ring on the piston and then trying to install it by pushing the piston it.
Mine looks very very similar amx leaking at the same spot... mine is a GJ 6000 3 ton. i too cant find replacement parts... im going to bite the bullet on your suggestion of the o ring 208. crossing fingers
is the jack handle supposed to be able to turn all the way to the left (counter clockwise) until it stops? - I notice if I do that, I can't pump the handle unless I turn it to the right a few times... is that normal?
Think your original video sucks OP? Well, lol, must be something to do with you getting in early, because now there're MANY more contributors to this medium. As of 11/28/2018, THIS video has 11,800 views, 112 Likes, 8 Dislikes. Whereas your ORIGINAL video has 619,000 views, 2.7 thousand Likes, and 319 Dislikes. Go figure, lol.
Every channel has to have a first video and I suspect most creators cringe when they see their first video. I would shoot it even differently now than I did for the 1 year update.
This is a great follow-up video and thank you for the guidance! I picked up a similar jack for nearly nothing off Marketplace for my son and wanted to replace the pump O-ring seal before giving it to him. If I might, I'd like to offer a couple of additional tips that I found helpful regarding removal and replacement of the O-ring.
- Pump up the jack before you begin...at least half way. That will avoid the flood of oil when you remove the plunger.
- Once the plunger is removed, pull out enough hydraulic oil from the pump cavity to clearly see the O-ring and plastic retainer.
- Polish the plunger shaft on a wire wheel and then with steel wool to a shine. Also, polish the lead-in chamfer on the plunger...this is rough machined and could abrade the O-ring upon insertion.
- Grab a 1/4" wood dowel and round the end. Instead of using a screwdriver which may cut or nick the new O-ring, maneuver the new O-ring into the groove below the plastic spacer using the rounded end.
- Before reinstalling the plunger, open the jack and push down on the jack pad. This will push some oil out of the plunger port and purge any remaining contaminants in the plunger area.
great tips. thank you for sharing
I must say how much I appreciate your floor jack repair video. Mine looks almost identical, only in red, manufactured by Rodac (NL)
FYI: for those in Europe looking for the size of the o-ring: it's a 16mm x 4 mm (inner diameter x thickness)
glad it was helpful. Mine still works although I did replace the o ring a second time since the original filming in 2016
I'm in Spain so the metric sizes were useful. Thanks
@mikecurtis3333 De nada! Mi casa es tu casa ;-)
Already on to my next repair and learn challenge: chainsaw carburettor throttle adjustment whilst avoiding tennis arm sensation.
It really helps how you show quick clips of the past repairs as you speak on it. 👍thank you I hope it works for me
I'm still using that same jack today. I had to replace the o-ring 1 time since the original video
My jack would not hold pressure very long. The book said bleed it by having jack arm released all the way down, then open the filler plug and put your foot on front wheels, then pull the jacking arm all the way up by hand. While up, put filler plug back in, lower jack arm with the handle release then jack up something. It fixed mine ... no more slowly dropping down.. Didn't have to pump anything looking for air bubbles and stuff.
This is exactly where my jack is leaking from. It's a very old craftsman 3 ton that was in the basement when I moved in so decided to clean and paint it and it looks and works great. Used it many many times and now just developed the leak. It's a strong jack, no reason to get rid of it if I can fix it easy enough.
should be fixable. It's 7 years since I filmed the fix and I am still using it. I did replace the o-ring one more time since the original video
@@WJHandyDad I saw the o-ring package says Buna 90, is that 90A hardness? Im coming across both 90A and 70A type o-rings. Think it matters? the 70A I can find locally, they sell #94 which is 5/8-7/8-1/8 also.
Bought a brand new jack and immediately started leaking fluids from the pump. It doesn't have a gear like that one. It won't even lock...it keeps free spinning either direction.
Dusted off the junk one i found on the side of the road and sprayed it with some PB blast, and the thing worked like a charm. I'll be using this vid to service it and im returning the new one
"they don't make 'em like they used to"
Thanks brother will see if I can stop my 3 ton jack oil spills with your tips.
hope it helps... mine is still working great although I did replace that o-ring a second time since the original video
Thanks! I need to fix my 2.5 ton Craftsman jack I bought back in '77.
I'll keep you posted.
Thank you. I have this exact same jack, but mine is a 3.5 ton and is black and gold. I bough the full rebuild kit from HRC for under $40 because mine leaks internally.
hopefully you get yours fixed back like new! Good luck!
I have a smaller condition of what you had with the leaking piston. Where about's might I find the o-ring or even a set of o-rings if I wanted to match it up with what I have - which are two Allied 3.5 ton jacks. Thanks for making these floor jack videos! It motivated me to get both of mine working better.
I searched and searched looking for o-rings that fit. The only place I could find them was Amazon.
I have two 3 ton Floor Jacks, one was a Freebee, because they said it didn't work, but it didn't have the lifting Plate that fits in the hole in the top, where it meets the car frame. But got the jack lifting by filling the 3 access holes for the fluid. 2 screw out holes, and the rubber plug in the cylinder. So now I had find a similar jack with a lift Plate to fit this one. Found one on Offer Up, that they said it wouldn't lift, cost me $25, Plate fit perfectly. Then I filled and bleed the other jack, and got it working too. Took the 2 big front wheels off cleaned them up, oiled them, then went to the 2 little wheels on the back. WARNING: A nut and lock washer holds them on the Frame, and I thought it had captivated bearings, it didn't, it had a top and bottom bearing plates with 19 little ball bearings in between, and I had to chase all these little ball bearing across the floor. So be careful if you remove the 2 little back wheels. I cleaned the plates, put grease in the groves or both plates and placed the ball bearings in them and held them together till I put the wheels back on the jack frame. Great Video, saved them both for future use. Thank You.
thanks for sharing those tips
Thanks for the reply. I have watched some more videos and am still none the wiser. I'm taking it to bits yet again shortly. I am still certain everything is in the right place and nice new seals fitted.
This is embarrassing as there are so few parts.
good luck
Most popular because there are lots of leaky jacks out there . :-)
Exactly
I've got this same jack - first repaired it about 4 years ago using this video as a guide. Now it's leaking again but the nylon O-ring (the second one in the groove) appears to be bent and buggered up so much that it won't allow the new rubber O-ring to slip into place. Wondering if maybe just the rubber O-ring can suffice?
my guess is the plastic ring is needed and hopefully you can find a suitable replacement
Very good vid mate, i had the wrong size o ring from halfords but it still fit eventually and once oiled was smooth, my jack was full of water and was completely buggered
Great vid helped for the job got the same jack thanks guy😊😊😊😊
I'm gonna try this. I just scored 2 free jacks off Craigslist but they need a little work. One is a 3 ton though
good update. i see you edited put where you remove the piston pump and throw on the floor. that would of course scratch the shaft of the pump and in turn damage the new o ring. cool vid.
Great Video ! Can you tell me how to adjust the DO NOT ADJUST screw with the Orange DO NOT ADJUST cap over it. I adjusted mine before I saw your video. Thanks !!
Greg
I do not know. I don't mess with that do not adjust screw.
Do you fill that tank were you replacement o rings
initially I did put some in there, but the proper refill procedure is through the rubber cap
I have the same jack. Purchased in 1995.
that's probably the year I bought mine too!
I have this same jack but it is a Blue Point version 2.5T. It didn't leak but finally stopped lifting so I stripped it down totally before I found this video. The problem was that the main seal on the piston had disintegrated. I have replaced this from a local supplier and put all the little springs and balls back where they came from. I have refilled it with hydraulic oil but now I can't get it to lift at all. The pump seems to be working but there is no sign of lift.
Is there something that I may have missed? How can I be certain all the air has been expelled?
The video was great, bit I'm missing something.
I'm not a jack specialist, but usually low fluid or air in the fluid would cause the lift failure from what I have experienced
@@WJHandyDad I'm going to take it all to bits again and see if anything has become misplaced. It's strange that the effort on the handle suddenly changed when I was trying to pump it up. Something's amiss.
@@mikecurtis3333 good luck, hope you figure it out
@@WJHandyDad Hello again, I have lost count of the number of times I have stripped this jack down and every time it fails to lift or even attempt to lift. It is just like the pump is doing nothing.. I have the exploded diagram of all the parts and everything seems to be there and in the right place and it's filled with oil.
All the seals have been replaced. The big ball is on top of the small ball and the safety valve is assembled correctly. The small ball is under the up/down valve.
Are there any other valves or balls hiding anywhere?
I am desperate to get it going again as I have some work for it. Can someone please suggest what I might be missing or doing wrong?
Any suggestion is welcomed.
Sorry you are going through that. Unfortunately I'm not a jack expert, just a DIY dad who managed to fix his jack
My inherited Craftsman has been leaking from the same spot. Would you say the o-ring is a ¾" outer diameter x ⁹/¹⁶" inner diameter x ³/³²"?
I put a link in the video to the o ring that fit mine. No guarantees yours is the same. I had to special order mine because I bought several sets of o rings and none of them were correct. I found my size by taking the old o ring and holding it over a ruler
@@WJHandyDad Well. Mine ended up using 2 different sizes and by dumb luck, I bought them! Can't do a test until I see how to bleed it, but that can wait for tomorrow. Plus I forgot to get more fluid. 😋
@@sethvaughn6316 glad you were able to get it fixed. The fill and bleed should go smoothly. I've replaced my o-ring 1 time since I filmed this video and the jack still works like brand new
Can I buy these at homedepot?
I found them on Amazon. That was the only place I found them at and I looked at quite a few places.
The plastic ring is called a backer ring. It should be installed on top of the O-ring.
Also called a back-up ring.
Looks like your floor jack is identical to mine. I removed the oil plug and added oil, and then purged the air, but I could not get that original oil plug back into it's hole no matter what I did. Wondering whether you had a similar problem, and if so how did you finally get that plug back in.
I honestly don't remember having any trouble with it. Try putting a dab of jack oil on the bottom of it or soaking it in 303 and see if that helps.
@@WJHandyDad Could be that my rubber plug is very old and very hard, and therefore not pliable enough to squeeze back into the oil fill hole. Will order a new plug that hopefully will fit. Thanks for your response.
Thank you bro
I would say the real test would be to test the jack under load. My jack also does not leak when not under load and pumps properly. But as soos as you push it to 500kg-1ton it stats to leak at that o ring again :(
I replaced the o-ring one time since I filmed the original video, but that jack still works great. I show it picking up my Avalanche in the final bleed video
SAME HERE BUT I HAVNT STARTED VIDEOING BUT I AM DAMN GLAD I DIDNT GET RID OF MY JACK I THINK MINE IS A 1970'S
How do you service the wheels?
I've never serviced them on this jack, I did on a Harbor Freight jack here: th-cam.com/video/WvnBzhCI2H0/w-d-xo.html
Was your pump piston 3/4" in size, that's what I have.
Mine is 19mm....
BTW that's close to 3/4 inch...... Can you give me the thickness from the o ring?
I have the same one and probably bought it early 90's. I am going to completely rebuild/paint it. Is there a kit number to replace all the seals? Thank you.
I'm not aware of any
I just bought the seal from amazon Part# B0188VX5A4 Was about 4 1/2 bucks. Good luck, i'm trying to gat the seal in now, not very easy
Awesome
How do you know what oring size to order? do they have numbers on them?I mean it's not jacks are cars where you can order spareparts by just searching under the make. How do you go about this?
I measured it with a ruler
my 05 Craftsman has a double lip upper dust seal and below that is a groove for the o-ring and a plastic washer under it. And unfortunately the new o-ring does not want to fit in the groove with the plastic washer. I may try removing the plastic washer.
hope you get it - it can be tricky. I heard someone else mention putting the o-ring on the piston and then trying to install it by pushing the piston it.
I just bought a new Halfords floor jack(3T) and used it maybe once and notice out of sudden it started leaking like mad right from the piston…..
that sucks, hopefully they'll exchange for a new one or give you a full refund
Mine looks very very similar amx leaking at the same spot... mine is a GJ 6000 3 ton. i too cant find replacement parts... im going to bite the bullet on your suggestion of the o ring 208. crossing fingers
good luck - I hope it works. Remember to put some jack oil on the o-ring before installing (I don't think I mentioned that in the video)
GREAT INFO! j
Did you deleted the other video?
you referring to this video: th-cam.com/video/pe7NY1Nh6sQ/w-d-xo.html
is the jack handle supposed to be able to turn all the way to the left (counter clockwise) until it stops? - I notice if I do that, I can't pump the handle unless I turn it to the right a few times... is that normal?
mine pumps no matter where I have the handle turned. Whether or not that is normal or not, I don't know
I filled the jack with the oil and it still won’t go up. Any ideas on what’s going on? Thanks in advance
unfortunately not... don't think that would be easy to diagnose without being there
At 2:21 of your video. To the right of your big spring. Do you see a hump on that tank? That's your fill plug.
Honest question..obviously plugs are important but if so important why is there no mentioning of it at all?
hi there we have same one and need repair can you tell us the repair kit code or Jack trademark please thanks
there wasn't a specific "repair kit" available for mine, I had to measure the o-ring and order replacement o-rings off Amazon
@@WJHandyDad ok thanks
What is the manufacturer date of this jack?
purchased in 1995
@@WJHandyDad Ok cool this jack was passed down to me from my father who passed away and I still use it often today. Thanks for the info
I lost my rubber cap were he pours the oil can any tell me were to buy it
measure yours to be sure, but I found these on Amazon: amzn.to/2ugwj6w
i bought the oring from ebay. 5 for 2.50. Order oring #208
Fast forward 2 minutes to skip all the crap
thought a had the same jack and ordered the o ring but sadly its too big :(
Go to the local Horror Fright and pick up one of their metric O-ring kits. Should have the size you need in that kit...
MINE HAS AN EXTRA PORT 3 PORTS
did u paint your wrenches also ?. lol. its a Griffin car jack that you'll rarely use.... yeah go on and pretty it up. She n lol
I think i have the same jack, 🤔
hi can u tell us the trademark please
Think your original video sucks OP? Well, lol, must be something to do with you getting in early, because now there're MANY more contributors to this medium. As of 11/28/2018, THIS video has 11,800 views, 112 Likes, 8 Dislikes. Whereas your ORIGINAL video has 619,000 views, 2.7 thousand Likes, and 319 Dislikes. Go figure, lol.
Every channel has to have a first video and I suspect most creators cringe when they see their first video. I would shoot it even differently now than I did for the 1 year update.
I have to shit very badly
fuzzy wuzzy...I have a feeling that if you took a huge dump, you would completely disappear!!