Thanks for tuning in bruv! And yeah, that happens naturally... we are all growing and learning and that should be reflected in the art if it's authentic. The fans appreciate seeing the journey too. Cheers bro 🍻
Love everything you guys do but if possible can you make sure Sean is as loud as everyone else. I can never hear him when I have my Bluetooth headphones on (which is usually how I listen to podcasts) even with my volume all the way up. When I listen on speakers everyone else is loud as hell and he’s normal. It’s really difficult to keep listening because of this
4 years ago I paid Nate 100$ for 1 hour of his time and it was worth it. He’s a great guy! Was stubborn for 4 years dropping on this account with 70+ songs under QUINCY, but rebrand coming! Nate “Goat” Rose!
My guy!! Hope you've been well bro! And don't issue a strict takedown on those songs... hit your distro up first to see if they can do a metadata change... and if they can't you can re-upload with the same ISRC but new name and such and you should be able to keep your stream counts 🔥
@@NateRoseMusic aye appreciate you!! Everything will be so different haha I’ll never take down any songs under QUINCY cause it’s apart of me and people do listen still and I’m going a completely different route with a band this time and more indie folky chill pop haha Keep killin’ it!!
It's an important step bro! I went 6 years under a different name, and had songs that were over 2million streams on Spotify, but there was no way I'd grow the brand because the name was so generic (It was "Spectrum", look up "Take You There" to find it) I relaunched under this name, and within the first two years i've had music placed on TV, Movies and radio. Don't be afraid! I can see how Quincy would hold you back when the biggest producer in music history is called Quincy lol 😭 keep grinding bro!
The ‘week in advance’ pitch window to hit the release radar is actually a myth, I’ve been posting almost weekly all year on Spotify every Friday (midnight Thursday) and I’ve been running late to pitch several times, this week I pitched it 3 hours after it was released in my Timezone and it still made the release radar the same day … I’ts hard to keep up with weekly but it is a great way to learn the platforms nuances better 💯
It's not a myth. The week in advance guarantees that it hits all of your followers on the Friday release. That doesn't mean that if you don't pitch in advance that it won't hit *any of your followers release radar playlist.
I really take it personal when musicians pay for a feature, and the artist doesn’t follow through with what they promised. Something should be done about that and I don’t care how long ago it was. King Los smh family
That was pretty interesting thank you. I’d be curious what @naterose actual revenue sources are. A few thousand views here and there on TH-cam obviously isn’t paying the bills. I haven’t researched his Spotify numbers. But if he is making all this money purely from Spotify I would be very curious as to how he grew that many listeners (which would have to a Fucking hell of a lot to pay for a normal life) . If so, Really just by Facebook and instagram ads? 🤯 Or is the majority of your revenue coming from online merch sales. T shirts or whatever?
My question is do you all have a video of whennnn an artist should start building their team ? What type of people would you need on your team? (Ex: managers, promoters, etc) Ex: You’re doing everything on your own and there’s no one around you who’s knows/are interested in the music business etc you’re making music, built your “label”/LLC as an independent artist and you’re really ready to push yourself out there
I did everything myself (cover artwork, producing, recording, mixing/mastering, design, marketing, managing, etc.) for a decade. This doesn't have to be the case for everyone. However, I'd make the case that it is important to have a good grasp on all the skillsets because that will help you choose the right team members and give them effective direction. Then once you start making a little bit of money, you can start outsourcing based on what will allow you to reclaim the most time. For me, the first thing I outsourced was the mixing/mastering. And the second thing was single covers. At the time, I was paying $250 for mix/master and $50 for single covers... I was able to afford $300 per song because I knew that within the year I would recoup off streams of that song and then it was pure profit. But the outsourcing increased my output and allowed me to reclaim time and put it towards other things that move the needle as well.
Lets not geek peoples heads up and think they can live off streams not to be a Debbie downer I try not too focus on the few who made it work for them big ups too his success there's more too come
On the contrary, I think too many people have a bleak view of streaming as a source of income… it was the place I first started making real money, and the transparency from Spotify on how to grow and maneuver provides a predictable framework for growth.
Were living in an age where being nerdy and working the computer beats talent. Your music can be trash if you can manipulate the system you will be successful. Too bad success doesn't equal talent
It's not one or the other... if your product (music) is trash, you're not going to garner very many listeners despite your marketing efforts. If you make amazing music but don't know how to get other people to hear it, it's also not going to go very far. You need both to have the easiest pathway to a full-time career.
1) What’s wrong being nerdy? 2) “Working the computer” can very much lead you to having some talent. 3) Ever combined Zoom & Audiomovers to bring the experience of Moment House into movie theaters for a sold out audience? On average, tech savvy artists are more successful than those who complain & dwell on the past 🤦♂️
A couple things to add to your comment: 1.) Monthly listeners are not the same as streams... monthly listeners refer to unique people that have streamed at least 1 song in the past 28 days. If you are in a bunch of playlists you can run up "monthly listeners" but still not have people really listening to your music outside of the singular playlist playthrough. 2.) As far as revenue goes, it depends on how much you own of the backend and what your business splits are like. I produce + write a lot of my own music, so I own the majority of my catalogue. How many of your listeners are from songs which you have master splits on? Do you have team members that take commission of gross revenue? Does your distributor take percentage? All these things play into the total revenue from streams.
I'm as honest as it gets in relation to the streaming conversation... don't let ignorance + dogmatism stop you from building a career off of one of the most predictable, workable platforms to focus on.
@@NateRoseMusic yeah your a streaming artist I can imagine how much money you left on the table. I also studied phycology and People only defend what they don't believe or something they don't understand. a lier will always have the need to prove it is real. But somone who is confident in what they say to be true will let people believe what they want to believe. Yet you defend streaming because you're lying 🤥. Just admit that you had a lot of time on your hand and you had money stacked up from your 9-5 and you didn't care about money as much as you cared about recognition. I dropped one video last month its first video. I plan on just making videos this year. Next year I will have my music on my own website for 1.00 per song. The web sight to my music will be under every TH-cam video... we will see where you at next in 3 years because nobody will actually pay for your music sorry. You have nothing valuable to support especially when the world craves good vybes right now..... you out of luck buddy 👋 Next year you still gone be sending Spotify email and waiting for response.... fool... lier and you a corn ball 🤣 good luck because music industry is changing and when it does, no one is putting money in your pot Because your music is nothing people will trade their energy (money) for Not to mention you're following the comment section to see what people say ..... how do you still have time for the comment section? On a vid that's not even your music It show what level you on about this,because if you was rely working hard you wouldn't care what people say in a comment section because you would have like minded people around you that you wouldn't even care what people say in a comment section And not to say that you not working hard but you working hard for free.... like wha? It just sucks for you because they told you Spotify and streaming was the way and it's going to be hard for you to get in these people pockets because they already trained you to grab attention and not money and the only thing that will make these people give you their money when that time comes is offering music of substance and that will be hard for you especially after displaying yourself as a "Man child" good luck tho
@@NateRoseMusicif you're being honest why respond..... you lack confidence in what you preach. Why not just let me be? Don't worry in 3 years We will see if people put money In your pot because it won't be about streams. People on streams will be considered free music from old artist and singles that artist allow on The platform. Gud luck liar
Yeah when I was 20... spent my only bread I had for the album on a feature. Was ghosted for months and eventually just released the project without it. Got it 8 months later as an .mp3 baked into a verse on a beat that wasn't complete and got ghosted again when I asked for an acapella.
@NateRoseMusic same thing happened to me 2 years ago. Got ghosted by Slikk Musik, grammy winning producer. Met him thru a childhood friend. He told me he loved my voice and wanted to work. Paid for a beat and we were supposed to work. Thought that opportunity would change my life as a singer. Never heard back from dude. Straight up ghosted
1st🙋🏾♂️
Let's get it!
You know the come up real, Them boys went half on an outfit.. Sean got the pants and Kohrey got the shirt lol
😂😂 chill out
Lol😂
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😂😂😂
😂 🔥
This one a dem episodes right here . Bro really dropped hella sauced in no time
Glad you gained some value from it bruv!
"The price of privilege is to service others" 🔥
Oh shit Nate Rose. Ya'll really are spinning the indie scene.
More Blessings to Nate Rose 🎉, super smart and his intervention make sense 😮
Thank you bro!
My boy Nate Rose. Met him at a track meet in high school; then again at MTSU. Glad to see him still goin
Let's go! Yeah I used to walk around at our track meets and try to get my music out to the neighboring schools haha
I love how his growth is heavily inbedded in his music career! Dope interview wit plenty gems! Salute!
Thanks for tuning in bruv! And yeah, that happens naturally... we are all growing and learning and that should be reflected in the art if it's authentic. The fans appreciate seeing the journey too. Cheers bro 🍻
Insightful and inspiring interview fellas , appreciate this channel
fire convo. Nate's a solid dude he just made me a fan...bouta peep his catalog.
Appreciate it bro! If I may suggest a song to start with it'd be "Nate Rose - Level Up" 🙏
I gotta come back to this again when I can really listen
We'll be here
This was amazing! Nate seems like a good dude ! 💯
I love the work you guys are doing. Great work!
love the content, been here since before you and Korey joined up together
Fire interview. Invite your boy to the next writing camp, Nate. It’s up. 👁
This dude Nate is solid.
Great interview
Thanks G! Appreciate you
Thank you so much for this content🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
love it being here and a lot to learn
Love everything you guys do but if possible can you make sure Sean is as loud as everyone else. I can never hear him when I have my Bluetooth headphones on (which is usually how I listen to podcasts) even with my volume all the way up. When I listen on speakers everyone else is loud as hell and he’s normal. It’s really difficult to keep listening because of this
This the type of content I loveee
He intentional and strategic 🧠
I definitely try to be (as much as I can 😂) 🙏🏼
Thanks to streaming, I was able to quit my job and just face music full time.
Let's gooooooo
What’s your artist name so if an support.
What I’ve learned from this is I AM ABSOLUTELY READY and all I need is the income. Thank you guys
If that's what you got from this interview, try listening again but w/o projecting as much of your own views onto it.
Oh wow I went to Mtsu for audio engineering as well. From Nashville myself 🔥🔥
MTSU alum STAND UP!
Nah... I love everything about this interview.
Oh man, this is GREAT! I feel like Nate is telling my story haha.
It’s similar for a lot of us 🙏🏼
This was all the game right here 💎
4 years ago I paid Nate 100$ for 1 hour of his time and it was worth it. He’s a great guy!
Was stubborn for 4 years dropping on this account with 70+ songs under QUINCY, but rebrand coming!
Nate “Goat” Rose!
My guy!! Hope you've been well bro! And don't issue a strict takedown on those songs... hit your distro up first to see if they can do a metadata change... and if they can't you can re-upload with the same ISRC but new name and such and you should be able to keep your stream counts 🔥
@@NateRoseMusic aye appreciate you!! Everything will be so different haha I’ll never take down any songs under QUINCY cause it’s apart of me and people do listen still and I’m going a completely different route with a band this time and more indie folky chill pop haha
Keep killin’ it!!
It's an important step bro! I went 6 years under a different name, and had songs that were over 2million streams on Spotify, but there was no way I'd grow the brand because the name was so generic (It was "Spectrum", look up "Take You There" to find it)
I relaunched under this name, and within the first two years i've had music placed on TV, Movies and radio. Don't be afraid! I can see how Quincy would hold you back when the biggest producer in music history is called Quincy lol 😭 keep grinding bro!
Great episode!!
Thank you!
So much value
Great interview shout out to Nate 💪🏾💪🏾👑
Shoutout you for peeping bro!
This was dope
The ‘week in advance’ pitch window to hit the release radar is actually a myth, I’ve been posting almost weekly all year on Spotify every Friday (midnight Thursday) and I’ve been running late to pitch several times, this week I pitched it 3 hours after it was released in my Timezone and it still made the release radar the same day … I’ts hard to keep up with weekly but it is a great way to learn the platforms nuances better 💯
It's not a myth. The week in advance guarantees that it hits all of your followers on the Friday release. That doesn't mean that if you don't pitch in advance that it won't hit *any of your followers release radar playlist.
shout out to the connection Indie Tribe and Mowgli the Iceberg
The brodiessss
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Sean pants on 10 rn 😂😂😂 🔥
I really take it personal when musicians pay for a feature, and the artist doesn’t follow through with what they promised. Something should be done about that and I don’t care how long ago it was. King Los smh family
At 33 I’m still trying to make it. Shit is hard to keep going
MORE LIKE FROM MUSIC BUSINESS IN COLLEGE - TO DIGITAL MARKETER - TO MUSIC ON THE SIDE TIL U GET GOOD ENOUGH TO ONLY DO MUSIC😂
That was pretty interesting thank you. I’d be curious what @naterose actual revenue sources are.
A few thousand views here and there on TH-cam obviously isn’t paying the bills.
I haven’t researched his Spotify numbers. But if he is making all this money purely from Spotify I would be very curious as to how he grew that many listeners (which would have to a Fucking hell of a lot to pay for a normal life) . If so, Really just by Facebook and instagram ads? 🤯
Or is the majority of your revenue coming from online merch sales. T shirts or whatever?
Thank you 😊
Mamba Mentality!
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My question is do you all have a video of whennnn an artist should start building their team ?
What type of people would you need on your team? (Ex: managers, promoters, etc)
Ex: You’re doing everything on your own and there’s no one around you who’s knows/are interested in the music business etc you’re making music, built your “label”/LLC as an independent artist and you’re really ready to push yourself out there
I did everything myself (cover artwork, producing, recording, mixing/mastering, design, marketing, managing, etc.) for a decade. This doesn't have to be the case for everyone.
However, I'd make the case that it is important to have a good grasp on all the skillsets because that will help you choose the right team members and give them effective direction. Then once you start making a little bit of money, you can start outsourcing based on what will allow you to reclaim the most time.
For me, the first thing I outsourced was the mixing/mastering. And the second thing was single covers. At the time, I was paying $250 for mix/master and $50 for single covers... I was able to afford $300 per song because I knew that within the year I would recoup off streams of that song and then it was pure profit. But the outsourcing increased my output and allowed me to reclaim time and put it towards other things that move the needle as well.
@@NateRoseMusic thank you!!!!
shout out Indie Tribe
THE BRODIES
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What’s their @? I wanna give their music a listen
It’s me! @NateRoseMusic
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Lets not geek peoples heads up and think they can live off streams not to be a Debbie downer I try not too focus on the few who made it work for them big ups too his success there's more too come
On the contrary, I think too many people have a bleak view of streaming as a source of income… it was the place I first started making real money, and the transparency from Spotify on how to grow and maneuver provides a predictable framework for growth.
I would love to know where he is at now 😂 10:08
Me too... hope he's doing well
Were living in an age where being nerdy and working the computer beats talent. Your music can be trash if you can manipulate the system you will be successful. Too bad success doesn't equal talent
It's not one or the other... if your product (music) is trash, you're not going to garner very many listeners despite your marketing efforts. If you make amazing music but don't know how to get other people to hear it, it's also not going to go very far. You need both to have the easiest pathway to a full-time career.
1) What’s wrong being nerdy? 2) “Working the computer” can very much lead you to having some talent. 3) Ever combined Zoom & Audiomovers to bring the experience of Moment House into movie theaters for a sold out audience? On average, tech savvy artists are more successful than those who complain & dwell on the past 🤦♂️
Can we have Travis Scott? Travis Scott at home:
“King Los” 👀
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@@NateRoseMusic 😂 hope he sees and follows up with you to meet his end of the deal
This time around he gotta pay me 5 racks for a feature and I'll turn it over in 1 day just to show him how to move professionally @@angelothemessenger
Y’all just want us to roast the fit so bad
sheesh spoke to los too... lowkey glad i didn't send...
If you do bad business it gets around 🤷♂️
Wtf this dude only has twice my monthly listeners and my last royalty payment was £400… *gets out notepad and sits more upright*
A couple things to add to your comment:
1.) Monthly listeners are not the same as streams... monthly listeners refer to unique people that have streamed at least 1 song in the past 28 days. If you are in a bunch of playlists you can run up "monthly listeners" but still not have people really listening to your music outside of the singular playlist playthrough.
2.) As far as revenue goes, it depends on how much you own of the backend and what your business splits are like. I produce + write a lot of my own music, so I own the majority of my catalogue. How many of your listeners are from songs which you have master splits on? Do you have team members that take commission of gross revenue? Does your distributor take percentage? All these things play into the total revenue from streams.
@@NateRoseMusicglad you explained that was solid info
How you make another streaming video when we just said we walking away this guy is not honest at all
I'm as honest as it gets in relation to the streaming conversation... don't let ignorance + dogmatism stop you from building a career off of one of the most predictable, workable platforms to focus on.
@@NateRoseMusic yeah your a streaming artist I can imagine how much money you left on the table.
I also studied phycology and People only defend what they don't believe or something they don't understand. a lier will always have the need to prove it is real. But somone who is confident in what they say to be true will let people believe what they want to believe. Yet you defend streaming because you're lying 🤥. Just admit that you had a lot of time on your hand and you had money stacked up from your 9-5 and you didn't care about money as much as you cared about recognition.
I dropped one video last month its first video. I plan on just making videos this year. Next year I will have my music on my own website for 1.00 per song. The web sight to my music will be under every TH-cam video... we will see where you at next in 3 years because nobody will actually pay for your music sorry. You have nothing valuable to support especially when the world craves good vybes right now..... you out of luck buddy 👋
Next year you still gone be sending Spotify email and waiting for response.... fool... lier and you a corn ball 🤣
good luck because music industry is changing and when it does, no one is putting money in your pot
Because your music is nothing people will trade their energy (money) for
Not to mention you're following the comment section to see what people say ..... how do you still have time for the comment section? On a vid that's not even your music
It show what level you on about this,because if you was rely working hard you wouldn't care what people say in a comment section because you would have like minded people around you that you wouldn't even care what people say in a comment section
And not to say that you not working hard but you working hard for free.... like wha?
It just sucks for you because they told you Spotify and streaming was the way and it's going to be hard for you to get in these people pockets because they already trained you to grab attention and not money and the only thing that will make these people give you their money when that time comes is offering music of substance and that will be hard for you especially after displaying yourself as a "Man child" good luck tho
@@NateRoseMusicif you're being honest why respond..... you lack confidence in what you preach. Why not just let me be? Don't worry in 3 years We will see if people put money In your pot because it won't be about streams. People on streams will be considered free music from old artist and singles that artist allow on The platform. Gud luck liar
@@NateRoseMusic so why respond to me if your so confident in what your saying... it's because you don't want others to agree with my comment.
Pure lies he's a Spotify plant wow
A white rapper? Nope. I’ll pass.
so dumb.
@@AI-ConsultantKick rocks, clown.
@@AI-Consultant I think he's being crease
Don’t let racism stop you from learning something bruv 🫡🙏🏼
Then just pass what’s the point of exposing urself as a racist clown lol
King los scammed you for a feature? 👀😭
Yeah when I was 20... spent my only bread I had for the album on a feature. Was ghosted for months and eventually just released the project without it. Got it 8 months later as an .mp3 baked into a verse on a beat that wasn't complete and got ghosted again when I asked for an acapella.
@@NateRoseMusic strip the vocal from it now and arrange into a new song. that's what I'd do at least. dope interview homie
@NateRoseMusic same thing happened to me 2 years ago. Got ghosted by Slikk Musik, grammy winning producer. Met him thru a childhood friend. He told me he loved my voice and wanted to work. Paid for a beat and we were supposed to work. Thought that opportunity would change my life as a singer. Never heard back from dude. Straight up ghosted
Dope y’all 👍 🫡
Thanks chief!