Searching For Ancient Pottery Kilns
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- Salado pottery was the last and greatest form of "oxidized organic paint pottery" produced in the ancient Southwest. When it stopped being made around 1450 the technology for producing it was lost. Archaeologists have been able to identify which villages were producing this pottery but not how it was produced. To date no Salado kilns have ever been identified by archaeologists.
In this video I visit the ruins of a few of these Salado polychrome producing villages and a few other contemporary villages, to see if I can find evidence of how and where they were firing pottery. Come along as I explore the ancient Southwest in search of ancient Salado pottery kilns.
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Can you imagine how cool it would be to take a walk in the desert with Andy ughhh
Let’s go!
I was legit just thinking the same thing and then saw this top comment 😂
Hey Andy! Just wanted to pop in and say how much I appreciate your channel and content. I’m 16 years old and living in northern Utah. I found my love for ancient pottery and living from when I saw ruins at defiance house in Lake Powell. I was instantly fascinated. I appreciate what you do. Thank you.
That's awesome. When I was 12 my parents and I spent a month boating, fishing and exploring Lake Powell. The ruins there had a huge impact on me and my love of the ancient Southwest that lasts to this day.
@@AncientPottery that’s amazing! Love it in the south west
Nice to show how archaeological sites live and die through the action of nature and man.
Good point, thanks.
Well done! A friend ( prefers to remain anonymous) walks the Rio Puerco area quite often. He found a kiln made of flag stone. It has shards and charred wood in and around it. It is in the middle of nowhere and difficult to get to, so I doubt if it is anything recently done. He tells me the Puerco area is littered with artifacts and shards. He does, by the way, leave them in place. My property is located on the San Marcos pueblo land grant. The pueblo ruins are a mere 2 miles away. I have found many shards on my property, including a partial pot. I also have found elongated balls of fired clay with finger indention's in them, as if they were bits left over and just thrown into the fire. Also, I found a black rock with a very hard to see Spanish looking petroglyph on it. Huge amount of history in this area. Michael
That's cool. Those trench kilns like that are found all over the 4 corners area too. Down in my country though, not at all.
That was great!! Love how you showed what features to look for. Very Interesting, informative and well edited. Love your music choices roo. Thank you for all your hard work on these videos!!
Thanks so much, I am glad you are enjoying my content.
Always learning from your videos Andy. This is a good one!
Glad you think so!
You're on fire Andy!
Thank you.
Wonderful episode and I really like your CSI (crime scene investigation) approach. Definitely a hands on way of discovery.
Thank you, I am trying to make it engaging and interesting.
This was absolutely amazing! It is sad to see that we have lost so much knowledge to time and development of land. I hope that you are able to find more of what you are looking for. Best wishes, and safe travels.
Thank you so much!
My new favorite channel!! Thanks for making content.
Thanks a lot, tell your friends.
Thanks to you, who have reignited my interest in South West Archaeology. Especially the design aspect. I have made two pieces so far. First my puki, fired that somewhat successfully and just finishing my first Bowl. My natural clay needs a lot of work. I am experimenting to get it right. What Im trying to say is thank you for inspiring me.!! Loved this video and I was jealous of those sherds you were finding. Keep up the good work!!
Glad to be able to inspire you. All clay is different, much of it is marginal to poor so we either need to just make do with what we have or find something better. I'm sure that's what the ancient potters did, they made great pots from terrible clay in many instances.
Hey Andy thanks for making another awesome video :)
You're welcome, thanks for watching and commenting.
Now that geophysical surveys are getting cheaper and quicker to do, it would be interesting to see what a scan of the agricultural land on the floodplain could show up, and get a map of the land underneath the depth of the plough. I saw a great survey setup recently that could be towed behind a quad bike at about 20mph - scanning multiple fields can be done in an afternoon, making 'speculative' surveys relatively affordable.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Great work
Thank you so much 😀
Truly fascinating, thanks Andy! In Vermont archeological evidence of the First Nations is harder to find because the forests eventually cover everything. It is amazing how well preserved the past is wherw you live.
Yes, we are blessed with bare earth to help in finding artifacts. The dry climate also helps preserve things better.
@@AncientPottery am I using the correct term? In New England (and our neighbors in Canada) we are taught to say "First Nations"
@@rustyshackleford3278 I am used to hearing Canadians say "First Nations" and "Native Americans" is popular in America. Still, I lived in Oklahoma for years and the old term "Indians" is still in common use there and elsewhere.
One of your best videos and really well edited. Hopefully this will attract the interest of archeologists who will do some research. After hundreds of years it is amazing that anything remains. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Wes. I would love to be able to guide some archaeologists to these locations.
it's there. In the UK they are constantly finding old Roman mosaics and villas under tilled farmland. Usually damaged, but sometimes fairly well preserved. If mosaic chips can be preserved in the soil for 2000 years, 300 year old pottery shards should be easy if you're looking in the right place.
Hey, wonderful video...love the gulley walk and sherds....lots of luck turning up something new...thank you
Thanks Allen. It was a lot of fun filming this.
Being a potter and one who was tremendously influenced initially by the pottery of Maria, I find this so interesting. I am wondering do you take anybody on hiking excursions to any of the Salado areas?
No I have never had any guided tours or anything. With federal land you need a permit to take a tour around, so let's just say I want to avoid any imperial entanglements.
Very informative thank you good work fun healthy HOBBY.
Yes it is, thanks for watching Rob.
Such a shame that so many ancient sites have been destroyed and desecrated in Arizona by development.
That is very true.
Another great video, thank you. I've seen a few agave roasting pits here and there. One in particular in Sycamore Canyon I now question. Maybe it's a kiln? Looks very similar to roasting pits near Sedona, but a few sherds litter the ground around perimeter. It's fairly near a ruin, not by river. I still think roasting pit, but maybe they had a multi-use as fuel became scarce? I dunno... very similar to the Hopi picture... I'm definitely going for second look. You, sir, spark the curiosity. Again, thanks!
Yes, I wonder if many ancient kilns have been written off as roasting pits and such.
Very nice video. I've seen the small holes in various pieces. Do you know the purpose for them? My guess would be a woven basket attached to the top. 🤷♂️
The bigger pieces of sherds would have been tempting to see them pieced together, especially if there were more than the 2. Again, great video as always. 👍👍
Nobody knows what those holes were for, lots of speculated about it. Thanks
Ironically, your download appeared while watching Archaeology Southwest and Henry Wallace presentation on Hohokam Cults. The long way to ask you if you hace found a good source of clay for buff ware?
It sounds like a large percentage off the buff ware was coming from the Snaketown area which is all on reservation land. I have looked around some in the Coolidge area off reservation but most of that fires brown.
Interesting. I tried to fire above the coals and I believe I got the fire to hot too quick. Any indications of how they controlled temp?
Not a whole lot you can do to control temperature. Some light their fire from the top of the fuel so it heats up more slowly. Try adding more temper to your clay to protect against thermal shock.
At 3:05. Do you think there were considerable differences in, say, coloring, between the cottonwood and pine barks? I am wondering if this is significant. (Pine plays an important part in Bizen firings here in Japan.) Thank you.
Interesting. I would have to do some experimenting to answer that. I have used cottonwood bark but have never tried pine bark. Maybe?
I know where one is by lindon arizona but its on private land
Lots of amazing archaeology in that area.
Maybe with a drone it would help to find them.
Good idea, I will try that.
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Interesting to hear him say "sherds".
Sherds? That's what they are
@@AncientPottery I don't dispute that, sir. I have never heard it except as "shard". I was acknowledging your pronunciation. Is that just how you pronounce it, or is that jargon among potters?
If I have heard that before, it was long ago. I note it, as I am an amateur linguist. Tongues are fascinating, unto me. Loved the videos I saw. And you replied to the very first comment I made! Thanks.
@@Svensk7119 I picked the pronunciation up from archaeologists.
@@AncientPottery Nice! I have always said a short a, and not the schwa sound (lower case e, though in English every Vowel makes it in its exceptions).
Instead of the word "sherds" or "shurds", are you looking for the word "shards"? (great post)
What about solomon?
Solomonville, AZ? First of all studies show that Salado Polychrome was not made there, it was coming from down river near Thatcher or Pima. Second that area has pretty much all been leveled by agriculture so there probably isn’t much left. If you know something I would be interested in looking around out there.
i found a 300 mt cave full of pottery and nobody payed by gouverment cares i see you care more about pottery than my whole country :))
I want to touch and feel.
Do it!
@@AncientPottery but I don't have 😥
what are sherds
Pieces of broken pottery
@@AncientPottery ahh ok thanks great vid by the way
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