You know, while risky, the thrust seems to be the most effective. If the supporting members #2 & #3 timed their strikes As the initial parry connects from #1 #1 would have enough time to recover and strike again. Looks like a lot of fun and would make for an interesting practice class. ~ From Nashville, Tennessee USA
@@KunobiYeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords! (YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty) To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! - Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
The difference between kendo and kenjutsu style is clear as day. Nitenichi was not designed with the rules of Kendo in mind and it shows. The nito user did wonderfully against the full group, waiting and countering whoever moved in first. It seems that they all lost to the same patter of block above and slash in the middle which is interesting, maybe the group experience was so overwhelmingly different it was harder to adapt. The sensei also took advantage of the one weakness the nito user had, which were thrusts. All in all excellent video, keep it up!
I noticed that since they were tightly grouped, it's difficult to throw an attack that isn't a thrust or an attack from above without hitting your allies. If the space was different, maybe they could have surrounded the nito user instead
Три одновременных удара в разные уровни двумя руками не остановить. Движение? Что мешает троим держать строй, прижать к стене, блокировать попытки уйти и атаковать одиночного бойца сразу, как только рыпнется на кого-то из троих?
That is the abc my man. The ideal strategy is put them in line so that you face the 1 at the time. Confined space offer protection only if you are holding the retreat path behind you, so that you can flee without getting trapped.
It's the opposite stop moving n chase your sword as you set it free. If your always running you grow tired n make countless mistakes to list if any moving occurs bend those knees
When fighting against multiple opponent they have to be menaçi ng at the same time, often it's just a succession of 1 v 1 if they do not coordinate properly which isn't as easy as it looks. Try it you'll see ;) As we can see he wins easely when they are not ganging up on him and leaving him space, gotta hit at the same time as your allies.
It is very impressive, but Kendo will get you killed in an actual sword fight, they all pretty much used the same overhead strikes while charging at him which is suicide, Kendo is just not a good sword fighting style
The sabre and shield weilding mongols gave the samurai a very hard time until the tsunami took out the mongol fleet. It happened twice. In Japanese tsunami means divine wind because it saved Japan from mongol invasion... twice.
Told a friend I was a big fan of Musashi because of his amazing skills. He reminded me that he is also a fucking murderer. And he is right. It's good to keep that in mind.
@@elsephiroth666 You talking about how he killed a dude at the age of 13 brutally? Or that he was pretty ruthless and sought out men to kill, simply to test his skill in battle? Killing to improve his reputation and status in life? Yeah, I'm aware of that. Though at least he had a epiphany about how awful he had been, near his final duel.
@@elsephiroth666 please correct me if i'm wrong, but he only killed other swordsmen in battles where if he didn't kill them he would die. We have to understand that this was a different time and whoever chose this path had to be prepared for the worst. Obviously killing is wrong but as far as I know he has never killed an innocent so yes I still look up to him as @LEGENDARY BIG BOSS
@@agnusleal8004 Starting a fight to end up at kill or be kill is still not a good philosophy. He could fight with sticks and end up without killing everyone he met. Also, Killing the master of a dojo, even in a specific duel made him kill the entire dojo (because they sought to end him, yes). Between 60 and 200 dudes for the price of 1. On the other end: 1v~130 is an amazing feet especially with only close combat.
In the live action Rurouni Kenshin movie, there was a slight of realism in the movie, which was the fact that Himura never stopped moving when he was facing a group of enemies. He was always in perpetual motion, he kept running, dodging and moving.
In the book of five rings Musashi talked about the importance of always moving and using the environment. The problem with simulating real combat in a dojo is the lack of environmental variables
@@samuelbishop1701 Arrogance destroys the foothold of victory. Yes, Musashi's technique is better utilized with more than one opponent present, but where does not matter much less if it's against only a single person--anywhere and anyone can be/become dangerous in a matter of moments, which is perfect for this style that is based on reacting to control the situation.
@@samuelbishop1701 yeah but go see it in movements Its interesting to analyze in real time. Cause you can see real factors and attacks that could happen. He must have been training like an Olympic athlete and he must of lived by the sword. It also accounts during that time that fighting was normal and it was everywhere. I’m sure there were other factors, maybe he was very gifted, maybe his teachers were very good. He probably also was very smart in the way he fought. He had to have very good footwork and good timing. He had to be a freak of nature to be able survive that era.
When Sensei stepped in because he couldn't stand to miss out on the experience... That's what I miss about martial arts. Just being a student again and experiencing an exchange of techniques and seeing what works and what doesn't without ego...😭👍
This eloquently expresses the extreme limitations of kendo. Similar to Olympic fencing, it's extremely powerful at one thing, but has considerably exploitable weaknesses. Very cool video. I wanna try this, too!
Thats really cool that you can do choreographed moves against foes who all do the exact same move and leave themselves wide open immediately. Nice dance
The first thing I noticed was the individual attackers were only throwing one move, then accepting the block/counter. Never throw only one shot. Same for the group tactic. Don't watch while your buddy dies, there should always be coordinated movement.
I feel this is a very good practical show of some of the most basic lessons both on fights and war. If you notice the start of most fights, the dual user lures the three to a corner. While this can be seen as nowhere to run, it also means less space, forcing the 3-man to not go together. Also, the sensei fight was the minimal definition of a commander, without it the group fought each one by themselves, but once added the attack of one was follow by the next one.
And instead of surrounding and boxing him in like they did at the start, they kept their distance from each other. And they only really struck from above, making it easy for the solo swordsman to predict and difficult to block the solo swordsman's low blows. I feel like this was just a restriction on fighting styles. If this were a street fight, there's no way that one guy would survive any encounter against 3 enemies in such circumstances. But while they all have to keep their fighting styles, this dude could run circles around them and use their restrictions against them.
I don't see why not. Mushashi, as suggests, was at least named after Miyamoto Mushashi who himself was a great duelist in the Edo period of Japan. However prior to his fame as a legendary duelist and killer of kenjutsu and kendo masters, he himself had faced multiple battles on the large scale during the Sengoku Jidai period where was was stated to have served under Toyotomi Hideyoshi and upon Hideyoshi's death, his family against Tokugawa Iaeyasu thus he does have combat experience to boot.
Musashi was an undefeated duelist who had been fighting since he was a young boy. He was already a demon when he set foot on the battlefield and long before becoming recognized as a kensei
Not really. His only battle before becoming a famous duelist was Sekigahara when he was 16. He began serving Tokugawas at the age of 29-30, which leaves a 14 years long gap where most of his duels happened.
All I can say here is that this was a very well done demonstration. Especially when sensei went in to lend a hand on the side of the inexperienced kendokas. IMO, if there was another experienced kendo user, the dual sword style will have even less leeway to fight. Also, on the 1st strike the Kendokas used, whatever the starting attack of the 1st attacker uses, the 2nd attacker should probably always follow up with a different attack. When sensei wasn't part of the attacking side, everyone used overhead strikes. Only when sensei joined did anyone even do a thrust attack.
Vaya este video hizo que despertara mi alma de espadachín y el dia yo fui fans de los espadachin y por supuesto Rouronin Keshin es sin duda la mejor de samurais y mi favorita por siempre.....cuando era adolescentes ansiaba aprender ese artes marcial kendo, pero no como habia una en mi pais.. pues me rendi y opte or entrenar artes marciales de cuerpo a cuerpo primero fue karate ( abandonado ) luego fue Muay Thai y BJJ ( activo por siempre ) aun asi, jamas eh olvidado mi amor por aprender kendo por lo menos una vez...🥰
@@estebanflores210 Mira morro, no quien poronga sos, pero si eh visto otras series de anime samurai, y mi poderosima serie Samurai Champlo, Gintama, Afro Samurai, Ninja Jiubei-chan ( de hecho parece mas samurai que ninjas XD ) y me faltan muchas, pero Samurai X es la que mas prefiero despues de Samurai Champlo, me hiciste recordar una serie que ame tanto..
Hello, I studied The Book of Five Rings as it instructed for three months. This is a cool film but the whole range of Actually Permissable motion is not allowed and we all ignore that here so it's just cool. ⚔️🙇🏼♀️ Mortal Kombat 9, especially its Scorpion was Easily Built To Inspire. On round two here, I believe I see a set up just past the initiative for a nasty execution, cheers there. Wont elaborate. 👏🏻👏🏻✌🏼 The, Resolution, is a very powerful tool. There are many many openings at all times we could say.
I see the problem of practicing group classes. All three are hitting from top to bottom. Although a person standing on the side should strike a diagonal blow from below. If he is standing on the left, then the blow should go from the bottom to the top from the left. Syncing with a friend in the center is no problem.
i think a good way to create fighting scenes on film would to take film sequences like this and then just modify them slightly, or use certain camera angles to make it seem real. it would make fight scenes on film look so much more interesting than the usual coreography.
Musashi : so nobody actually dies in your time when practice those sword arts . Them : no master , we takes it as an art , culture or a sport , we practice it as an honour to the warriors like you who lived and paved the way to those pieces of art you left behind . I wonder what will be his reaction .
I'm not a sword fighter but I was presented with this video on TH-cam "which I liked a lot" and want to say what I saw. 2sword style it's for an very aggressive approach, for me, the 2sword fencer lacks aggressiveness and he let their opponents corner him, you take the initiative and you kill from one side to the other never go for the center and never let the center face you, every time he did this, he won.
You cannot use the same movement after fight against enemy 1, change the target to axila, foot, knees, throat to try avoid create patterns that you enemies can read.
Done this many many times. Defender has to keep circling towards the most aggressive person, and keep that person in front of them. Circle, circle, circle. Wait for your opening. The attackers need to countercircle, and stay close together. use cautious but constant aggression against multiple angles and levels. defenders should never split up, as this allows the attacker a moment of one on one.
opponents almost always hit high on the head! it's easy to block with the first katana and counterattack with the other! if the opponents vary the blows (lateral blows) and simulate attacks without finishing them in order to change the trajectory etc, then it will be difficult to defeat 3 opponents...
I'm a Koryu practitioner, and have had a few free sparring sessions with Kendoka. I think that Kendo becomes very predictable, if you're not using Kendo rules, but the opponent is. However, when I spar with them with Kendo rules, I feel very restricted. For example, you can cut kote from underneath with a real sword. You can cut your enemy's thighs, legs, and pretty much anywhere. You can throw them or trip them up. Because kote and the various men are all very linear and come from above, striking from underneath becomes very powerful. My Koryu has a few such strikes that only puts you in a worse position if you try to avoid it.
It's strange, I cannot actually find a rule which states that kiriage gote or gyaku kesagiri are prohibited or otherwise ineligeable for yuko datotsu. I assume that one would receive really unfavorable judgements on the shisei and hasugi requirements.
I'm no expert, but it seemed that the style of kendo allowed him to perfp very well once he could use katanas, as the opponents mostly attacked in one or two ways (overhead or thrust).
I think they would have had more luck if the person in front of them refused engagement, moving the single fighter towards them and then flank the sides with the other two.
It shows why Musashi did this. It broke the norm, that folks were so used to using. Psychologically people put less effort when working in a group compared to by themselves.
죽도 이도에선 긴 죽도가 공격칼, 짧은 죽도가 방어칼이고요 진검 이도에선 대도가 방어칼, 소도가 공격칼입니다 실제 진검 대도로 내려치는 강도를 소도로 받아내기는 힘듭니다 칼날이 부러지거나 손안에서 칼을 놓칠 수도 있구요 검도의 본 소도 3본만 보아도 대도를 받을때 제치고 능각옆면으로 흘리고 하죠 진검 이도는 대도로 막는 동시에 소도로 목, 겨드랑이, 갈비뼈대 사이를 베거나 찌르면서 운용을 한다고 하네요
I would probably look into switching hands. Use the katana in the left to block while closing the distance, then go for a wakizashi in the dominant hand. This would possibly make the counters faster and more precise an maybe harder to see for the opponents.
With kendo rules it is very difficult to score ippon with the shoto, which I suspect is meant to balance the matches. Thus this kendo derived nito style likewise uses the shoto almost exclusively defensively.
Did hand hits count & were people trying for them? I suspect parring cuts from an actual katana with a wakizashi would be rather dangerous to the defender's hand. It's also likely that few of the torso cuts the fencer with two swords landed would be immediately incapacitating. The single-handed thrusts are great & seemed very effective.
Blocking with the wakizashi isn't too bad- I've used arming sword and a rondel against a longsword, and if you're aggressive with the blocks, the tsuba is plenty big to protect the hand. While not directly equivalent, the size of the guard is about the same between wakizashi and rondel, so I'm comfortable comparing them. I will add that it's definitely an "I'm so glad that got blocked" moment when it works. Thrusts are the hardest to defend against- if they get lined up right, the blade movement disappear, though aggressively blocking it out rather than swatting aside tends to yield better results by changing the line of the thrust.
I feel like when its 2+ vs 1, it would be alot more affective to approach from different direction ie blind spot of the person. Although I can't really speak about how easy it is in practice, it seems like the three people are always approaching from the front, why not try to get him from the side or even behind lol
Seems like the strength of kendo, attacking the men or head, is also it's weakness against two slashing weapons. Leaves the do or belly open for attack.
honestly, try boxing. it will improve your footwork a lot and a defense like the Philly Shell will help to avoid situations like the last fight where you were outranged by the opponent. By incorporating more movement of the body to avoid blows, followed up with sword movement to protect against additional strikes, it should be very easy to take advantage of these kind of stilted movements. no disrespect to the Kendo students, they're practicing a martial art that has contests with rules. but you could have flowed around their jabs easily in my opinion.
I want to ask a question and must fully admit my ignorance here to avoid sounding arrogant. I know almost nothing about Kendo and am willing to learn from anyone. Why are the Kendo practitioners keeping their weapon (and only guard) so high above their opponent? It leaves so much of their vitals exposed and seems to both limit their attack options as well as make them extremely predictable. Is there a solid reason for this?
There's something that is missed, Ken jitsui although was brought about by Musashi and as is if wearing the three samurai blades katana, wakazashi and tanto often Musashi would take the opponents katana making not a katana and wakazashi attack against a singular armed samurai but a katana and katana against a singular armed samurai allowing more room for Musashi to manoeuvre. Try this and the difference is extremely clear.
According to Musashi himself a skilled warrior should be able to kill ten men at once. This is done through positioning, use of the environment, and the advantages of two swords which you see here.
Why do they hold it at the end of the hilt? Wouldn't that make it easier to be disarmed? Could a strong strike targeting the weapon give a chance to disarm?
We used this wakizashi, but it's dangerous without protective gear🔪🔪🔪🔪
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What protective equipment do you recommend for a beginner?
You know, while risky, the thrust seems to be the most effective.
If the supporting members #2 & #3 timed their strikes
As the initial parry connects from #1
#1 would have enough time to recover and strike again.
Looks like a lot of fun and would make for an interesting practice class.
~ From Nashville, Tennessee USA
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To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
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Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
The difference between kendo and kenjutsu style is clear as day. Nitenichi was not designed with the rules of Kendo in mind and it shows. The nito user did wonderfully against the full group, waiting and countering whoever moved in first. It seems that they all lost to the same patter of block above and slash in the middle which is interesting, maybe the group experience was so overwhelmingly different it was harder to adapt. The sensei also took advantage of the one weakness the nito user had, which were thrusts. All in all excellent video, keep it up!
I noticed that since they were tightly grouped, it's difficult to throw an attack that isn't a thrust or an attack from above without hitting your allies. If the space was different, maybe they could have surrounded the nito user instead
I'm pretty sure Hogu Yeom has not yet studied NIR.
Три одновременных удара в разные уровни двумя руками не остановить. Движение? Что мешает троим держать строй, прижать к стене, блокировать попытки уйти и атаковать одиночного бойца сразу, как только рыпнется на кого-то из троих?
Сразу говорю- в стилях и направлениях не соображаю совсем, но логика боя, достижения результата - она не одинакова для всех стилей?
That's one of the reasons Musashi trained with the monks at Hozoin, thrusts were definitely a weakness he had to overcome
Important - as we can see here: with multiple opponents, never stop moving.
That is the abc my man. The ideal strategy is put them in line so that you face the 1 at the time. Confined space offer protection only if you are holding the retreat path behind you, so that you can flee without getting trapped.
I saw something completely different even though it's important to move around.
It's the opposite stop moving n chase your sword as you set it free. If your always running you grow tired n make countless mistakes to list if any moving occurs bend those knees
When fighting against multiple opponent they have to be menaçi ng at the same time, often it's just a succession of 1 v 1 if they do not coordinate properly which isn't as easy as it looks. Try it you'll see ;) As we can see he wins easely when they are not ganging up on him and leaving him space, gotta hit at the same time as your allies.
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Same lol
Thanks for demonstrating the Musashi style and effective it is with multiple opponents.
still, Musashi oponents didnt use "kendo" wich is a sport, they would be using kenjutsu
It is very impressive, but Kendo will get you killed in an actual sword fight, they all pretty much used the same overhead strikes while charging at him which is suicide, Kendo is just not a good sword fighting style
@@TheDeathOmen No, because Kenjutsu people do not sparr, and no sparring will end up you losing in a real fight.
That is so badass, I didn't expect him to win so much
The sabre and shield weilding mongols gave the samurai a very hard time until the tsunami took out the mongol fleet. It happened twice. In Japanese tsunami means divine wind because it saved Japan from mongol invasion... twice.
@@TalesForWhales Florida has that same advantage from other states lol all the new yorkers and Californians are fleeing after Ian.
@@TalesForWhales Tsunami means harbor/port wave, tsu being harbor and nami being wave
@@woopidooindeed and correction they called those specific storms divine wind. Ty
@@TalesForWhales you're thinking kamikaze, which means divine wind.
Miyamoto Musashi is my favorite historical figure. It's cool to see how his style of fighting with two swords, would look like.
Told a friend I was a big fan of Musashi because of his amazing skills. He reminded me that he is also a fucking murderer. And he is right. It's good to keep that in mind.
@@elsephiroth666 You talking about how he killed a dude at the age of 13 brutally? Or that he was pretty ruthless and sought out men to kill, simply to test his skill in battle? Killing to improve his reputation and status in life?
Yeah, I'm aware of that. Though at least he had a epiphany about how awful he had been, near his final duel.
@@elsephiroth666 please correct me if i'm wrong, but he only killed other swordsmen in battles where if he didn't kill them he would die. We have to understand that this was a different time and whoever chose this path had to be prepared for the worst. Obviously killing is wrong but as far as I know he has never killed an innocent so yes I still look up to him as @LEGENDARY BIG BOSS
Me too
@@agnusleal8004 Starting a fight to end up at kill or be kill is still not a good philosophy. He could fight with sticks and end up without killing everyone he met. Also, Killing the master of a dojo, even in a specific duel made him kill the entire dojo (because they sought to end him, yes). Between 60 and 200 dudes for the price of 1.
On the other end: 1v~130 is an amazing feet especially with only close combat.
In the live action Rurouni Kenshin movie, there was a slight of realism in the movie, which was the fact that Himura never stopped moving when he was facing a group of enemies. He was always in perpetual motion, he kept running, dodging and moving.
In the book of five rings Musashi talked about the importance of always moving and using the environment. The problem with simulating real combat in a dojo is the lack of environmental variables
It is the nature of that environment.
@@Axel5550 That's true, but Musashi developed it for actual combat in aifuauojs that would actually be dangerous. Not for empty dojos
@@samuelbishop1701 Arrogance destroys the foothold of victory. Yes, Musashi's technique is better utilized with more than one opponent present, but where does not matter much less if it's against only a single person--anywhere and anyone can be/become dangerous in a matter of moments, which is perfect for this style that is based on reacting to control the situation.
@@samuelbishop1701 yeah but go see it in movements Its interesting to analyze in real time. Cause you can see real factors and attacks that could happen. He must have been training like an Olympic athlete and he must of lived by the sword. It also accounts during that time that fighting was normal and it was everywhere.
I’m sure there were other factors, maybe he was very gifted, maybe his teachers were very good. He probably also was very smart in the way he fought. He had to have very good footwork and good timing. He had to be a freak of nature to be able survive that era.
When Sensei stepped in because he couldn't stand to miss out on the experience... That's what I miss about martial arts. Just being a student again and experiencing an exchange of techniques and seeing what works and what doesn't without ego...😭👍
Beautiful demo of the dual sword, I can see how a proficient master could go undefeated as the legend says.
Yeah
This eloquently expresses the extreme limitations of kendo. Similar to Olympic fencing, it's extremely powerful at one thing, but has considerably exploitable weaknesses.
Very cool video. I wanna try this, too!
this channel deserves more recognition
Whether in fencing or Kenjutsu or Kendo, it’s always a pleasure watching the adaptability of a master at work
This is so crazy love these "musashi" videos
Thats really cool that you can do choreographed moves against foes who all do the exact same move and leave themselves wide open immediately. Nice dance
The first thing I noticed was the individual attackers were only throwing one move, then accepting the block/counter. Never throw only one shot.
Same for the group tactic. Don't watch while your buddy dies, there should always be coordinated movement.
I feel this is a very good practical show of some of the most basic lessons both on fights and war. If you notice the start of most fights, the dual user lures the three to a corner. While this can be seen as nowhere to run, it also means less space, forcing the 3-man to not go together. Also, the sensei fight was the minimal definition of a commander, without it the group fought each one by themselves, but once added the attack of one was follow by the next one.
5:56 when the sensei starts squaring up
Great channel. I enjoy the variety of weapons and scenarios. Would love to see some kobudo weapons like Sai and Tonfa tested against sword techniques
That wasn't fighting multiple opponents. That was fighting multiple opponents one at a time.
Best video EVER ....thank you very much AMAZING!!!!
I cannot help but notice every time the single swordsman won, the three kendo swordsmen attempted to strike the...exact...same...way.
And instead of surrounding and boxing him in like they did at the start, they kept their distance from each other.
And they only really struck from above, making it easy for the solo swordsman to predict and difficult to block the solo swordsman's low blows.
I feel like this was just a restriction on fighting styles. If this were a street fight, there's no way that one guy would survive any encounter against 3 enemies in such circumstances. But while they all have to keep their fighting styles, this dude could run circles around them and use their restrictions against them.
I don't see why not. Mushashi, as suggests, was at least named after Miyamoto Mushashi who himself was a great duelist in the Edo period of Japan. However prior to his fame as a legendary duelist and killer of kenjutsu and kendo masters, he himself had faced multiple battles on the large scale during the Sengoku Jidai period where was was stated to have served under Toyotomi Hideyoshi and upon Hideyoshi's death, his family against Tokugawa Iaeyasu thus he does have combat experience to boot.
Musashi was an undefeated duelist who had been fighting since he was a young boy. He was already a demon when he set foot on the battlefield and long before becoming recognized as a kensei
Not really. His only battle before becoming a famous duelist was Sekigahara when he was 16. He began serving Tokugawas at the age of 29-30, which leaves a 14 years long gap where most of his duels happened.
A moment of appreciation for the camera work. Surely helps to be trained in sure footing.
Really, fighting a group that takes turns is just like fighting one.
All I can say here is that this was a very well done demonstration. Especially when sensei went in to lend a hand on the side of the inexperienced kendokas.
IMO, if there was another experienced kendo user, the dual sword style will have even less leeway to fight.
Also, on the 1st strike the Kendokas used, whatever the starting attack of the 1st attacker uses, the 2nd attacker should probably always follow up with a different attack. When sensei wasn't part of the attacking side, everyone used overhead strikes. Only when sensei joined did anyone even do a thrust attack.
Chicos me encantan sus videos, sigan trabajando así!!!
Can we talk about how at 4:10 we see the rare practical use of spinning in combat?
I dont understand why they kept going at him 1 and 1. But even so, what awesome fighting from the katana man.
So the legend that he fought 40 people and won might be true? Are you kidding me?
What a beast!
I remember a self defence video and just like the instructor explained, he doesn't allow himself to be surrounded and he is constantly moving.
Vaya este video hizo que despertara mi alma de espadachín y el dia yo fui fans de los espadachin y por supuesto Rouronin Keshin es sin duda la mejor de samurais y mi favorita por siempre.....cuando era adolescentes ansiaba aprender ese artes marcial kendo, pero no como habia una en mi pais.. pues me rendi y opte or entrenar artes marciales de cuerpo a cuerpo primero fue karate ( abandonado ) luego fue Muay Thai y BJJ ( activo por siempre ) aun asi, jamas eh olvidado mi amor por aprender kendo por lo menos una vez...🥰
pero si no has visto nada de Samurais que valga la pena ..no puedes poner esa serie como un referente solo por ser lo unic0 que has visto en tu vida
@@estebanflores210 Mira morro, no quien poronga sos, pero si eh visto otras series de anime samurai, y mi poderosima serie Samurai Champlo, Gintama, Afro Samurai, Ninja Jiubei-chan ( de hecho parece mas samurai que ninjas XD ) y me faltan muchas, pero Samurai X es la que mas prefiero despues de Samurai Champlo, me hiciste recordar una serie que ame tanto..
he could indeed battle 3 people. but he would indeed die.
You remind me of a movie I watched called Crazy Samurai. I hope all gyms teach people real things like you do. All due respect, teacher🙏
Hello, I studied The Book of Five Rings as it instructed for three months. This is a cool film but the whole range of Actually Permissable motion is not allowed and we all ignore that here so it's just cool. ⚔️🙇🏼♀️ Mortal Kombat 9, especially its Scorpion was Easily Built To Inspire. On round two here, I believe I see a set up just past the initiative for a nasty execution, cheers there. Wont elaborate. 👏🏻👏🏻✌🏼 The, Resolution, is a very powerful tool. There are many many openings at all times we could say.
I see the problem of practicing group classes. All three are hitting from top to bottom. Although a person standing on the side should strike a diagonal blow from below. If he is standing on the left, then the blow should go from the bottom to the top from the left. Syncing with a friend in the center is no problem.
Yeom is truly invincible under the sun
i think a good way to create fighting scenes on film would to take film sequences like this and then just modify them slightly, or use certain camera angles to make it seem real. it would make fight scenes on film look so much more interesting than the usual coreography.
Musashi : so nobody actually dies in your time when practice those sword arts .
Them : no master , we takes it as an art , culture or a sport , we practice it as an honour to the warriors like you who lived and paved the way to those pieces of art you left behind .
I wonder what will be his reaction .
Legend: musashi. Worthy of a name and its proven
Musashi clearly trained with DUST self defense guy
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I'm not a sword fighter but I was presented with this video on TH-cam "which I liked a lot" and want to say what I saw.
2sword style it's for an very aggressive approach, for me, the 2sword fencer lacks aggressiveness and he let their opponents corner him, you take the initiative and you kill from one side to the other never go for the center and never let the center face you, every time he did this, he won.
You cannot use the same movement after fight against enemy 1, change the target to axila, foot, knees, throat to try avoid create patterns that you enemies can read.
Done this many many times. Defender has to keep circling towards the most aggressive person, and keep that person in front of them. Circle, circle, circle. Wait for your opening. The attackers need to countercircle, and stay close together. use cautious but constant aggression against multiple angles and levels. defenders should never split up, as this allows the attacker a moment of one on one.
As Musashi said in the book of 5 rings. 2 swords can do 4 things , 1 sword can do 1.
This looks like a standoff in Ghost Of Tsushima
Thank you for the video it was very informative 👊🏻
We used the same tactics as against a spearman - line. As shown: when kendokas break their line - they loose.
only way to face multiple combatants is for each to know death is singular no matter how many
opponents almost always hit high on the head! it's easy to block with the first katana and counterattack with the other! if the opponents vary the blows (lateral blows) and simulate attacks without finishing them in order to change the trajectory etc, then it will be difficult to defeat 3 opponents...
I'm a Koryu practitioner, and have had a few free sparring sessions with Kendoka. I think that Kendo becomes very predictable, if you're not using Kendo rules, but the opponent is. However, when I spar with them with Kendo rules, I feel very restricted. For example, you can cut kote from underneath with a real sword. You can cut your enemy's thighs, legs, and pretty much anywhere. You can throw them or trip them up. Because kote and the various men are all very linear and come from above, striking from underneath becomes very powerful. My Koryu has a few such strikes that only puts you in a worse position if you try to avoid it.
It's strange, I cannot actually find a rule which states that kiriage gote or gyaku kesagiri are prohibited or otherwise ineligeable for yuko datotsu. I assume that one would receive really unfavorable judgements on the shisei and hasugi requirements.
The thing is the multiple attackers are all doing kendo fighting against a Nito-Ryu practitioner doing kenjutsu.
I'm no expert, but it seemed that the style of kendo allowed him to perfp very well once he could use katanas, as the opponents mostly attacked in one or two ways (overhead or thrust).
His opponents really shouldn't have attacked his sword. They probably have never fought nito before.
your right if it was a real fight it wouldn’t go so good
I think they would have had more luck if the person in front of them refused engagement, moving the single fighter towards them and then flank the sides with the other two.
So glad you love Korean culture. But not to make fun like it is simple.
I hope you could do a sparring match with Europeans or Americans who practice European swordsmanship. It would be great to watch.
An excellent demonstration of the Mushaisi
Every video from you is a fun learning experience, 감사합니다!
I love this channel so much
When I see this outfit, all I can think of is Kendo Nagasaki from 80's pro wrestling.
It shows why Musashi did this. It broke the norm, that folks were so used to using.
Psychologically people put less effort when working in a group compared to by themselves.
Thank you for the video, enjoyable as always!
죽도 이도에선 긴 죽도가 공격칼, 짧은 죽도가 방어칼이고요
진검 이도에선 대도가 방어칼, 소도가 공격칼입니다
실제 진검 대도로 내려치는 강도를 소도로 받아내기는 힘듭니다
칼날이 부러지거나 손안에서 칼을 놓칠 수도 있구요
검도의 본 소도 3본만 보아도 대도를 받을때 제치고 능각옆면으로 흘리고 하죠
진검 이도는 대도로 막는 동시에 소도로 목, 겨드랑이, 갈비뼈대 사이를 베거나 찌르면서 운용을 한다고 하네요
In movies, it seems it's always easier to fight multiple opponents. Not so in real life.
I would probably look into switching hands. Use the katana in the left to block while closing the distance, then go for a wakizashi in the dominant hand. This would possibly make the counters faster and more precise an maybe harder to see for the opponents.
With kendo rules it is very difficult to score ippon with the shoto, which I suspect is meant to balance the matches. Thus this kendo derived nito style likewise uses the shoto almost exclusively defensively.
The most valuable piece of protective equipment of all: the face mask
Great content! It was super interesting to watch!
Cheers from France :)
very good combats, miyamoto musashi style
6:46 difference between experience and skill
NGL this is rad as fuck! Beautiful!
There should be DOOM music playing when he picked up the katana and... the smaller katana
Did hand hits count & were people trying for them? I suspect parring cuts from an actual katana with a wakizashi would be rather dangerous to the defender's hand. It's also likely that few of the torso cuts the fencer with two swords landed would be immediately incapacitating. The single-handed thrusts are great & seemed very effective.
Blocking with the wakizashi isn't too bad- I've used arming sword and a rondel against a longsword, and if you're aggressive with the blocks, the tsuba is plenty big to protect the hand. While not directly equivalent, the size of the guard is about the same between wakizashi and rondel, so I'm comfortable comparing them. I will add that it's definitely an "I'm so glad that got blocked" moment when it works.
Thrusts are the hardest to defend against- if they get lined up right, the blade movement disappear, though aggressively blocking it out rather than swatting aside tends to yield better results by changing the line of the thrust.
love it
note to kohai when asked to run dont asked back just do
Two sword is best style
I feel like when its 2+ vs 1, it would be alot more affective to approach from different direction ie blind spot of the person. Although I can't really speak about how easy it is in practice, it seems like the three people are always approaching from the front, why not try to get him from the side or even behind lol
Seems like the strength of kendo, attacking the men or head, is also it's weakness against two slashing weapons. Leaves the do or belly open for attack.
They shouldn't be attacking his sword.
honestly, try boxing. it will improve your footwork a lot and a defense like the Philly Shell will help to avoid situations like the last fight where you were outranged by the opponent. By incorporating more movement of the body to avoid blows, followed up with sword movement to protect against additional strikes, it should be very easy to take advantage of these kind of stilted movements.
no disrespect to the Kendo students, they're practicing a martial art that has contests with rules. but you could have flowed around their jabs easily in my opinion.
I want to ask a question and must fully admit my ignorance here to avoid sounding arrogant. I know almost nothing about Kendo and am willing to learn from anyone.
Why are the Kendo practitioners keeping their weapon (and only guard) so high above their opponent? It leaves so much of their vitals exposed and seems to both limit their attack options as well as make them extremely predictable. Is there a solid reason for this?
Maybe an overhead chop will work....eventually.....someday....300 attempts later....still....IT WILL WORK WE KNOW IT WILL.
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I noticed the main strikes were aimed at disemboweling them lol that’s brutal
Reduce CHOPPING ACTIONS is probably a good idea.
They all attack the same way and lose the same way each time. When the attack was changed, he lost that one time.
Fun and instructive! Thanks a lot for sharing 🙂
Yes. At least that is what the Book of Five Rings says.
There's something that is missed, Ken jitsui although was brought about by Musashi and as is if wearing the three samurai blades katana, wakazashi and tanto often Musashi would take the opponents katana making not a katana and wakazashi attack against a singular armed samurai but a katana and katana against a singular armed samurai allowing more room for Musashi to manoeuvre. Try this and the difference is extremely clear.
this is what you do when you dont have a shield
Always line them up. Don't let cloud you.
As we can see here, attack one at a time and the same way each time. ☠️🤷♂️ so real.
According to Musashi himself a skilled warrior should be able to kill ten men at once. This is done through positioning, use of the environment, and the advantages of two swords which you see here.
This is AWESOME!!!!
Why do they hold it at the end of the hilt? Wouldn't that make it easier to be disarmed? Could a strong strike targeting the weapon give a chance to disarm?
If all the attackers advance the same exact way in a staged demo. Yes
just dont forget to ask them to come at you one by one and have no idea of what they are doing
Yo siento que solo atacaron desde arriba, las estocadas casi siempre entraban en la guardia, pero, siempre hacian el mismo ataque
More of this please!!
Nice work 💪🏼🤙🏼🤘🏼
Just as the one needs
practice using two
swords
So too do the three need to learn how to attack in coordination, like wolves.
My favorite yet.