Boy, I'm so GRATEFUL for people who love steam locomotives. Because of them, steam Locos are restored, maintained and kept running. I LOVE these primitive beauties - that's why I been buying up a lot HO scale brass steam Locos the last several months. I just love 'em to pieces! 😃 Great show! Thanks!!! 😁
I grew up in Southern Nevada and ever since I learned about the Nevada Northern I've dreamed about going and working there to help preserve those locomotives
Was out to Fallon, Nevada just in early August to take a granddaughter home in time for school. While there, we ran down to Virginia City and enjoyed everything there including their railroad. Due to a strange happening, we returned after hours and met a good amount of their staff in their shop. What great fun that was! Just wish that I knew about this rail system and could of doubled up on my enjoyment. I had a tie in with steam power. I am an old Iowa farm boy. And Mt. Pleasant, Iowa has the Antique Farm Power Show every Labor Day. My Grandfather even ran a steam tractor for a custom harvest group. They thought he ran the tractor better than anyone else. And he and the fellow running the threshing machine really worked good together. He did that until he became the County Auditor, a job that he kept till he retired. I am a motorhead, and just love to see and hear any engine run. Thanks for a great look at those engines.
As a retired engineer, I always tell up and coming shortline (and also museum) operators that the key to a smooth running railroad is having a shop with the right tools. Even if it's only a small put-together building with one track going inside, it's an essential must to have a work place to maintain these wonderful machines. If money is invested in this (having a drop pit and inspection pit along with jacking pads), you're on your way in being able to keep your operations going more effectively. Thank goodness the Nevada Northern is blessed with a fully operational machine shop. That overhead crane, in my opinion, is worth it's weight in gold. Thanks for sharing this with us and stay well you two!
Dale, Karyn, it's good to see you two getting around well after surgeries. I probably should get my left knee worked on, but I'm hoping that physical therapy will prolong the need for surgery. At 11:37 as the No. 93 is rolling away, I see a couple workers having issues with their forklift. It sucks getting a forklift stuck. I personally have never did but I've had a few coworkers that have. I loved seeing all of the locomotives in various states of repair or operation. Engineering back then is fascinating. Seeing how train shops had replaced rolling parts was awesome to learn about. The No. 3 (309) was a very interesting locomotive to see! I've never seen a rolling brick like that before. It's not ugly at all. In fact, it looks cool! Is love to see it up and running. Gotta love the desert rain, and the Utah weather. We had snow fall up in the high Uintas just a couple weeks ago. As always, you two put on a helluva show. Thanks again, and take care.
Another great video, thx Dale. Most wheel bearings before they are fitted have a white metal bearing cast onto the non ferrous surface. This is then machined and scraped so that it fits perfectly to the contours of the axle. Lubrication holes and grooves are also cut in so that the oil can lubricate it. Boiler tubes are replaced as they are thinner than the barrel and the thickness reduces over time with use. This can be caused by the water on one side and the exhaust gasses on the other. Cleaning tubes with a flue brush aids the flow of gasses from the fire box to the chimney.
Gee thank you!! Thanks again for watching. Thanks for your time. Yup the tubes fail quickly. Dan was upset when they required an inspection in order to keep running. In spite of so little time on his locomotive. But when he opened it up omg. So glad he was required to do that. Many near fails in there.
Hi and THANKS AGAIN AS ALWAYS. Really got a lot of work done today. Editing Sundays show on the Lyon. Then bough supplies for the garden railroad and then started waterproofing the hill. Later!
If you want to see one of those square steam engines alive and working visit this channel : J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad they just rebuild one of few that are still left in the U.S.
@5:55, Hey, there’s my father in the right corner! Funny story, while my father and I were going up the grade, we had to make an emergency stop because the bell cord came loose. We all had a good laugh, and then we were off again.
Wonderful video ! I am a member of NN RR and want to get out there and visit someday. By watching your videos on this subject , I can visit from the comfort of my own home, thanks for making this all possible. Great information that is well presented.......Bill Stuessy
I'm glad it's raining in Nevada. Now as for the NN railroad, there are 4 steam locomotives? I've heard of #s 93, 40, and 81 (new to me at the least), but there's a fourth one as well? I never knew that! I love the Nevada Northern! What an inspirational railroad.
Pretty cool video of the four steam locomotives at the Nevada Northern Railway Museum. I’m going to be visiting Colorado again. I haven’t went there since July 2016.
Our Strasburg Railroad in Pennsylvania is getting close to having 5 operational steam locomotives. There currently working on restoring an 0-6-0 #31 who hasn’t ran on SCR in nearly a decade and a half. Unfortunately it means my favorite staple of locomotive at SCR Great Western 2-10-0 #90 will be pulled from service for her 1,472 day inspection. So a bit of bittersweet news at Strasburg Railroad as well, just like NNR #40 being pulled from service. And to think NNR #40 is about to be brought back into service again in a year. I trust Strasburg Railroad will have #90 operational again quick. I feel 90 as well as 40 are truthfully in great shape. But for a steam locomotive to continue to operate FRA requires those steam locomotives to have a boiler inspected. To think of how long it takes tear down to boiler and get put back together. Glad you NNR 40 is in great shape. I’m sure SCR 90 is in great shape too when her time comes for her in-depth hiatus.
Once again; the Nevada Northern is a time capsule of what a steam railroad was like. they have everything they need to maintain steam locomotives, They "can" go out and buy and refurbish any locomotive that they want ( limited by they're overhead crane capacity only). On top of that, they're such friendly and informative folks, even allowing folks to watch as they work. I hope the young man does well. I'm sure he gets all the real dirty jobs to do too. (that's how they find out if you really want to do the work). Fixing up #309 will be fun to follow, it appears to be a very unique locomotive. Maybe you could explain the differences between the various valve gear sometime, not here though. ;-)
Big locos are alright and all, but I do like the little 0-4-0s and that one is very unusual. Obviously it was that height because it had to access something they kept under the stairs! ;-)
If y'all ever make it around here I'd love to see y'all do a video of The Belle of Louisville. She started out as a steamboat called The Idlewild in or around 1913 but her engine dates back to somewhere in the 1870's-80's. During her career she had been all over the nation but since she became "The Belle" in 1964? she just cruises up and down the Ohio river on short trips from her home. The longest being, I think, Cincinnati on occasion. I imagine rebuilding a locomotive is much like eating an elephant...one bite at a time. Noticing those RS-1's, the train I visit most often, The French Lick, West Baden & Southern is usually pulled by their RS-1 and they've also done photo freights with it and their S-2. That #3 or #309 looks a LOT like Jones & Laughlin #58 "The Rolling Ingot" that Rick Rowlands restored a few years ago at the Youngstown Steel Heritage Museum. It's a Porter 0-4-0. He has 2 others and is looking to get a 4th and is going to restore at least one more of the remaining 3. If you haven't seen #58 it's worth watching and there are plenty of videos of it on youtube so I won't post a link as this comment is long enough already.
Well I assume that y’all have heard about Yellowstone hopefully everyone gets out okay and might won’t to make a video while out on vacation on what to hdo in this situation
So many kinds. Sorry to get back so late. So Many comments. Anyway not sure. Know em when I see them. Mostly. But the big ones are Stevenson. Mostly. I guess? But just Stevenson has I’ll bet 20 versions.
@@ToyManTelevision no, the Nevada Northern has an 0-4-0, a 4-6-0, and 2 2-8-0’s none of which are operated by Strasburg. 90 is a 2-10-0 and is one of only two of that type to be operational in the U.S. with the other being Frisco 1630.
Where's the moggy this week? Unusual for there not to be a clip or two featuring Dirt. Also, I'm surprised at what appears to be evidence of pot shots having been taken at the Baker gear brass plate, it makes it looks like it's still the Wild West!
Finding someone to retire a boiler is not that difficult. In my career I was involved with the retuning of fired heat exchangers (stationary boilers). Some of them produced high pressure steam ( much higher than used by steam locomotives). The standards they ultimately follow are ASME Division 1 standards.
Hi I think your last posting you told the story of the 3985, 5511 and the bid diesel. You mentioned that the diesel wasn't used at all or rarely, the 5511 was too stiff for west rail, it was better on the flat lands and straight rails where the curves were more gentle. The 3985 was in serious mechanical condition and UP didn't want to fool with it. Now is it not possible, inview of some recent news about UP and other railroads - class 1 corporate companies whose stocks are traded on the exchange, trying to cut back operating expenses - This despite incredible corporate profits. So UP is, de fecto, cutting back their "Stream program. Let's face it 4014 was not in good condition. They ran into all sorts of problems but in 2 years rebuilt the engine almost form the bottom up. SO what was so challenging about the challenger? It is old, tired, and was not well cared for even though there was a highly skilled and qualified VOLUNTEER CREW - as I understand it - who could have worked on it. The leaking boiler could have been repaired. But let;s face it UP like other railroads, is seeking to reduce crews, cut rolling stock, mothballing engines on remote sidings all to cut costs and increase profits so the CEO can have bigger bonuses. This is not a moment of generosity or an effort to keep from scrapping 3985, 511 and do on. This is part of a cost cutting operation. Why are they laying off workers? Why selling off rolling stock. Why the request to the government to cut operating crews? To cut costs and increase profits on top of record profits. They are forgetting that their corporate charter requires them to service the nation, the public and operate safely. They are not doing that. This business of getting rid of 3985 - You said they need a 3rd engine like a 3rd leg. What happens when 844 or 4014 must go for inspection and repairs. What replaces on or both of them for the summer tours and all this good will stuff. The steam program, which has been almost entirely eliminated by other rail roads, is now being shut down. My bet is, within 5 years it will not exist All these excursion lines are confined to minor rails that have been abandoned or sold of by the 1st lass roads. Privately owned engines and rolling stock are not allowed to transit 1st class rail systems unless the engines and rolling stock is owned by that line. Anyway, let's face facts. The RR's pay taxes on their equipment. The steam program for UP is just a lark. It stands in the way for corporate profits. THIS is the reason for the "Transfer" of these 3 locomotives to a private company. UP gets a tax write off, they reduce taxes on their inventory, eliminate the need for repairs and updates to 3985 forever and can likely reduce the size of the steam operations building. Tell the truth, This give-away is for corporate profit not to "Save" 3985 or any other engine. 5511 is the last of it's kind and class. They could operate it on their eastern lines. The big Diesel could pull specialty passenger trains on sight-seeing tours. These engines, if properly used, could generate revenue.
Hi. Well… UP could just dump the steam program at any time sure. It’s expensive. But in the overall scheme of things not that expensive for such a large corporation. But after decades of running this program the backlash if they discontinued it would be huge. So I’m betting they never do. Let’s hope. Now the steam program has little micromanaging. Ed gets to do what Ed wants to do generally speaking. Corporate demands are broad. “Be in Ogden with two locomotives on May 8th”. You figure out how. And the annual budget is the annual budget. And that’s about it. A few basic rules. No, you can’t except donations or money. So Ed can “give” a run to a group and they can sell tickets. But UP doesn’t want the problems or liability so let a group step in. No one ever gets to run on UP tracks. Ever. Hard and fast rule. If Ed wants to run a short distance onto other track fine. But no. No other locomotive, hy rail, speeder of skateboard can run on UP tracks. Ever. The program is meant to promote the UP. Period. It’s not a toy. It’s a tool. So while there has been huge interest in restoring other equipment Ed can’t except money from anyone, BUT he can give away the equipment so the people who have the money and track and shops can restore it. So….. big win I think. And if Ed wants to have a meet with these people off UP track fine. Fine…. How is this not a huge win for us all? Totally excited!!
@@ToyManTelevision Hi again. Very nice response. Logical maybe, considered, interesting. Unfortunately it does not consider the fact that UP is downsizing. Getting rid of these locomotives is one way to reduce taxes AND get tax credits. You didn't mention that. I didn't mention anything about who does and does not run on UP rails - BNBSF does. I think NS does as well. That is NOT the issue here. The point is the Ed has a near fully equipped shop to renovate, rebuild, repair virtually any locomotive UP has or has had. 3985 was, is a back up to be run when 844 OR 4014 is off for inspection or tear-down. With three operating locomotives - two of them being the largest practical engines ever built, two of them will always be available. If what you say is true, then 3985 will never again run on UP rials. It will languish in some museum and that's it - next stop, scrapyard. There should be a public outcry over 3985 being given away. This engine has been running for years. It was returned to service my the efforts of many volunteers. You made no mention that UP is laying off workers, reducing crew sizes, attempting to reduce the cab crew on long, heavy trains. They are in a tangle with congress right now . You did not mention that UP last year had one of the most profitable years in it's history. AND - they care cutting, crews, personell, rolling stock, engines are being mothballed and maintenance programs curtained. They are not even properly inspecting rail cars. This has nothing to do with UP budget, Ed or anything else. Truth be known I would bet that Ed was told to get those engines a new home. CUT THE STEAM SHOP COSTS just like everything else for the sake of the stockholders profit and CEO' insulting bonus. Unlike 4014, 3985 can go like a scared cat. It is less damaging to the rails, far more trackage available, easier engine to make curves. consumes less fuel, has longer legs and is just as fascinating as 4014. There is every reason to keep it, rebuild it as required and return it to UP service. You do a great job of promoting. You have a lot of people interested in your banter and travel tales. USE IT to help Ed keep that engine at home where it belongs. It has a shield on the front UP. Not Illinois museum, repair shops or junk yard. Please, look at what it going on in congress right now. Look at what ALL rail roads are trying to do. UP spending way down, UP profits - Way Up. UP CEO Bigger Bonus. Please, speak up. Call a spade a spade and not a F...... shovel. Boeing made the same mistake - catering to stockholders, remember what happened. Take care. Waiting for your next adventure. You have a great channel.
just like 😊😊 a truck 🚚 or car when engine is worn out it has 2 be overhauled new pistons rings cylinder sleeves new vavles and vavle gudies new main and rod bearings new oil pump new water pump new vavle seats and the engine and the cylinder head needs 2 be checked w a straight edge 2 make sure the engine and the cylinder head is level and the crank shaft needs 2 be built back up and turned back 2 spec 😊😊 OMG 5 6 2O24
too bad ol marky rammasch of Wabash Railroad Contractors aint around to help! lolololo! too bad the state and feds wont ever come in and look at the books of the railroad.
Boy, I'm so GRATEFUL for people who love steam locomotives. Because of them, steam Locos are restored, maintained and kept running. I LOVE these primitive beauties - that's why I been buying up a lot HO scale brass steam Locos the last several months. I just love 'em to pieces! 😃 Great show! Thanks!!! 😁
I like think that my late friend, Mr. Richard Reynolds, who brought the Nevada Northern back to life, is seeing this from afar. Wonderful video!
I grew up in Southern Nevada and ever since I learned about the Nevada Northern I've dreamed about going and working there to help preserve those locomotives
Was out to Fallon, Nevada just in early August to take a granddaughter home in time for school. While there, we ran down to Virginia City and enjoyed everything there including their railroad. Due to a strange happening, we returned after hours and met a good amount of their staff in their shop. What great fun that was! Just wish that I knew about this rail system and could of doubled up on my enjoyment.
I had a tie in with steam power. I am an old Iowa farm boy. And Mt. Pleasant, Iowa has the Antique Farm Power Show every Labor Day. My Grandfather even ran a steam tractor for a custom harvest group. They thought he ran the tractor better than anyone else. And he and the fellow running the threshing machine really worked good together. He did that until he became the County Auditor, a job that he kept till he retired. I am a motorhead, and just love to see and hear any engine run. Thanks for a great look at those engines.
As a retired engineer, I always tell up and coming shortline (and also museum) operators that the key to a smooth running railroad is having a shop with the right tools.
Even if it's only a small put-together building with one track going inside, it's an essential must to have a work place to maintain these wonderful machines. If money is invested in this (having a drop pit and inspection pit along with jacking pads), you're on your way in being able to keep your operations going more effectively.
Thank goodness the Nevada Northern is blessed with a fully operational machine shop. That overhead crane, in my opinion, is worth it's weight in gold. Thanks for sharing this with us and stay well you two!
Wow the 309 is not ugly ... I like the unique .... what gem.
I wish I lived closer to Ely. I could easily spend a lot of time there! Gracias for all the informative you are providing!🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🙏🏼
Dale, Karyn, it's good to see you two getting around well after surgeries. I probably should get my left knee worked on, but I'm hoping that physical therapy will prolong the need for surgery.
At 11:37 as the No. 93 is rolling away, I see a couple workers having issues with their forklift. It sucks getting a forklift stuck. I personally have never did but I've had a few coworkers that have.
I loved seeing all of the locomotives in various states of repair or operation. Engineering back then is fascinating. Seeing how train shops had replaced rolling parts was awesome to learn about.
The No. 3 (309) was a very interesting locomotive to see! I've never seen a rolling brick like that before. It's not ugly at all. In fact, it looks cool! Is love to see it up and running.
Gotta love the desert rain, and the Utah weather. We had snow fall up in the high Uintas just a couple weeks ago.
As always, you two put on a helluva show. Thanks again, and take care.
Hi Robert. I’ll get next to this later. Coffee.
Hi again. What a morning. Long story. Anyway thanks as always for watching and spending time talking to us. Nevada Northern is alway a fav.
j&l narrrow gauge also has a brick design loco running and is restoring more
Another great video, thx Dale.
Most wheel bearings before they are fitted have a white metal bearing cast onto the non ferrous surface. This is then machined and scraped so that it fits perfectly to the contours of the axle. Lubrication holes and grooves are also cut in so that the oil can lubricate it.
Boiler tubes are replaced as they are thinner than the barrel and the thickness reduces over time with use. This can be caused by the water on one side and the exhaust gasses on the other. Cleaning tubes with a flue brush aids the flow of gasses from the fire box to the chimney.
Gee thank you!! Thanks again for watching. Thanks for your time. Yup the tubes fail quickly. Dan was upset when they required an inspection in order to keep running. In spite of so little time on his locomotive. But when he opened it up omg. So glad he was required to do that. Many near fails in there.
Hello from Kansas 🇺🇸
Thank you for another wonderful video. 😁👍
Hi and THANKS AGAIN AS ALWAYS. Really got a lot of work done today. Editing Sundays show on the Lyon. Then bough supplies for the garden railroad and then started waterproofing the hill. Later!
If you want to see one of those square steam engines alive and working visit this channel : J&L Narrow Gauge Railroad they just rebuild one of few that are still left in the U.S.
Hi. Yes as soon as I posted this the TH-cam algorithm recommended that!!! Smart bot or smart not.. anyway thanks I’ll look.
I was wondering if someone was going to mention us here in the comments. Thanks for the plug!
Very informative. Thank you.
Thanks
If you're going to run a piece of equipment of its caliber you have to do the right thing. Love y'all's channel!
I so look forward to the train ride on the Silver State Express. 😊
Thank you for these videos, I just love em so so much!!
@5:55, Hey, there’s my father in the right corner! Funny story, while my father and I were going up the grade, we had to make an emergency stop because the bell cord came loose. We all had a good laugh, and then we were off again.
309 is a bit of an odd duck, but sorta neat at the same time. Cool to see that.
Wonderful video ! I am a member of NN RR and want to get out there and visit someday. By watching your videos on this subject ,
I can visit from the comfort of my own home, thanks for making this all possible. Great information that is well presented.......Bill Stuessy
Do find the time. And gas! Geeezzz. Anyway in 2 years they should have three steam locomotives and some great early diesels.
I'm glad it's raining in Nevada. Now as for the NN railroad, there are 4 steam locomotives? I've heard of #s 93, 40, and 81 (new to me at the least), but there's a fourth one as well? I never knew that! I love the Nevada Northern! What an inspirational railroad.
It would be fun to work on 40. Thanks for an in depth video 😁👍!
Pretty cool video of the four steam locomotives at the Nevada Northern Railway Museum. I’m going to be visiting Colorado again. I haven’t went there since July 2016.
Our Strasburg Railroad in Pennsylvania is getting close to having 5 operational steam locomotives. There currently working on restoring an 0-6-0 #31 who hasn’t ran on SCR in nearly a decade and a half. Unfortunately it means my favorite staple of locomotive at SCR Great Western 2-10-0 #90 will be pulled from service for her 1,472 day inspection. So a bit of bittersweet news at Strasburg Railroad as well, just like NNR #40 being pulled from service. And to think NNR #40 is about to be brought back into service again in a year. I trust Strasburg Railroad will have #90 operational again quick. I feel 90 as well as 40 are truthfully in great shape. But for a steam locomotive to continue to operate FRA requires those steam locomotives to have a boiler inspected. To think of how long it takes tear down to boiler and get put back together. Glad you NNR 40 is in great shape. I’m sure SCR 90 is in great shape too when her time comes for her in-depth hiatus.
Once again; the Nevada Northern is a time capsule of what a steam railroad was like. they have everything they need to maintain steam locomotives, They "can" go out and buy and refurbish any locomotive that they want ( limited by they're overhead crane capacity only). On top of that, they're such friendly and informative folks, even allowing folks to watch as they work.
I hope the young man does well. I'm sure he gets all the real dirty jobs to do too. (that's how they find out if you really want to do the work).
Fixing up #309 will be fun to follow, it appears to be a very unique locomotive.
Maybe you could explain the differences between the various valve gear sometime, not here though. ;-)
I always enjoy your videos! Thanks for the images from inside the shop.
309 looks like J&L 58
I always "like" your videos. My favorite channel!
Thanks a lot!
Awesome video ❤
I've heard that there's a steam train gathering at the Nevada State Railroad Museum July 1st through the 4th, will you be going to it
Heck yes!!
I'm part of the crew that's transporting the Genoa and J.W. Bowker up there
Thanks for the video
Thx again
Awesome video
I want an Ho scale version of the 0-4-0
Big locos are alright and all, but I do like the little 0-4-0s and that one is very unusual. Obviously it was that height because it had to access something they kept under the stairs! ;-)
Awesome,
Great Video ! Are you going to Colorado for the National Garden Railroad Convention?
If y'all ever make it around here I'd love to see y'all do a video of The Belle of Louisville. She started out as a steamboat called The Idlewild in or around 1913 but her engine dates back to somewhere in the 1870's-80's. During her career she had been all over the nation but since she became "The Belle" in 1964? she just cruises up and down the Ohio river on short trips from her home. The longest being, I think, Cincinnati on occasion. I imagine rebuilding a locomotive is much like eating an elephant...one bite at a time. Noticing those RS-1's, the train I visit most often, The French Lick, West Baden & Southern is usually pulled by their RS-1 and they've also done photo freights with it and their S-2. That #3 or #309 looks a LOT like Jones & Laughlin #58 "The Rolling Ingot" that Rick Rowlands restored a few years ago at the Youngstown Steel Heritage Museum. It's a Porter 0-4-0. He has 2 others and is looking to get a 4th and is going to restore at least one more of the remaining 3. If you haven't seen #58 it's worth watching and there are plenty of videos of it on youtube so I won't post a link as this comment is long enough already.
Amazing!!!
Hi again!
@@ToyManTelevision Thank you so much for a totally awesome and informative video. You guys are fantastic.
Well I assume that y’all have heard about Yellowstone hopefully everyone gets out okay and might won’t to make a video while out on vacation on what to hdo in this situation
As a cat person (& a railfan) myself, VERY touching, moving video. I know how hard it it personally to see them "cross the rainbow bridge". 😑
Could you please explain the differences between the various types of valve gear? Thanks
So many kinds. Sorry to get back so late. So
Many comments. Anyway not sure. Know em when I see them. Mostly. But the big ones are Stevenson. Mostly. I guess? But just Stevenson has I’ll bet 20 versions.
Any update on the Up heritage equipment move?
Yup. Fuel costs. Fall 4014 trip canceled. Move put off a bit. September perhaps.
@@ToyManTelevision thanks man
Anyone know where i can find a 2 rail o scale Weaver consolidation ?
Sorry nope
Does 81 have the same wheel arrangement as Strasburg 90
I think it’s a 1-8-0? Not sure on the 90.
@@ToyManTelevision no, the Nevada Northern has an 0-4-0, a 4-6-0, and 2 2-8-0’s none of which are operated by Strasburg. 90 is a 2-10-0 and is one of only two of that type to be operational in the U.S. with the other being Frisco 1630.
That last one kinda reminds me of the steel locomotives being restored and operated at the J&L railroad in Ohio.
And shop switchers. Tiny little thing but heavy lifters.
Where's the moggy this week? Unusual for there not to be a clip or two featuring Dirt. Also, I'm surprised at what appears to be evidence of pot shots having been taken at the Baker gear brass plate, it makes it looks like it's still the Wild West!
More coming up on this. Two of the three finished.
hot take, carlos is goated, he's the cool one
Finding someone to retire a boiler is not that difficult. In my career I was involved with the retuning of fired heat exchangers (stationary boilers). Some of them produced high pressure steam ( much higher than used by steam locomotives). The standards they ultimately follow are ASME Division 1 standards.
I hate auto correct. Retire is retube!
Hi I think your last posting you told the story of the 3985, 5511 and the bid diesel. You mentioned that the diesel wasn't used at all or rarely, the 5511 was too stiff for west rail, it was better on the flat lands and straight rails where the curves were more gentle. The 3985 was in serious mechanical condition and UP didn't want to fool with it. Now is it not possible, inview of some recent news about UP and other railroads - class 1 corporate companies whose stocks are traded on the exchange, trying to cut back operating expenses - This despite incredible corporate profits. So UP is, de fecto, cutting back their "Stream program. Let's face it 4014 was not in good condition. They ran into all sorts of problems but in 2 years rebuilt the engine almost form the bottom up. SO what was so challenging about the challenger? It is old, tired, and was not well cared for even though there was a highly skilled and qualified VOLUNTEER CREW - as I understand it - who could have worked on it. The leaking boiler could have been repaired. But let;s face it UP like other railroads, is seeking to reduce crews, cut rolling stock, mothballing engines on remote sidings all to cut costs and increase profits so the CEO can have bigger bonuses. This is not a moment of generosity or an effort to keep from scrapping 3985, 511 and do on. This is part of a cost cutting operation. Why are they laying off workers? Why selling off rolling stock. Why the request to the government to cut operating crews? To cut costs and increase profits on top of record profits. They are forgetting that their corporate charter requires them to service the nation, the public and operate safely. They are not doing that. This business of getting rid of 3985 - You said they need a 3rd engine like a 3rd leg. What happens when 844 or 4014 must go for inspection and repairs. What replaces on or both of them for the summer tours and all this good will stuff. The steam program, which has been almost entirely eliminated by other rail roads, is now being shut down. My bet is, within 5 years it will not exist All these excursion lines are confined to minor rails that have been abandoned or sold of by the 1st lass roads. Privately owned engines and rolling stock are not allowed to transit 1st class rail systems unless the engines and rolling stock is owned by that line. Anyway, let's face facts. The RR's pay taxes on their equipment. The steam program for UP is just a lark. It stands in the way for corporate profits. THIS is the reason for the "Transfer" of these 3 locomotives to a private company. UP gets a tax write off, they reduce taxes on their inventory, eliminate the need for repairs and updates to 3985 forever and can likely reduce the size of the steam operations building. Tell the truth, This give-away is for corporate profit not to "Save" 3985 or any other engine. 5511 is the last of it's kind and class. They could operate it on their eastern lines. The big Diesel could pull specialty passenger trains on sight-seeing tours. These engines, if properly used, could generate revenue.
Hi. Well… UP could just dump the steam program at any time sure. It’s expensive. But in the overall scheme of things not that expensive for such a large corporation. But after decades of running this program the backlash if they discontinued it would be huge. So I’m betting they never do. Let’s hope. Now the steam program has little micromanaging. Ed gets to do what Ed wants to do generally speaking. Corporate demands are broad. “Be in Ogden with two locomotives on May 8th”. You figure out how. And the annual budget is the annual budget. And that’s about it. A few basic rules. No, you can’t except donations or money. So Ed can “give” a run to a group and they can sell tickets. But UP doesn’t want the problems or liability so let a group step in. No one ever gets to run on UP tracks. Ever. Hard and fast rule. If Ed wants to run a short distance onto other track fine. But no. No other locomotive, hy rail, speeder of skateboard can run on UP tracks. Ever. The program is meant to promote the UP. Period. It’s not a toy. It’s a tool. So while there has been huge interest in restoring other equipment Ed can’t except money from anyone, BUT he can give away the equipment so the people who have the money and track and shops can restore it. So….. big win I think. And if Ed wants to have a meet with these people off UP track fine. Fine…. How is this not a huge win for us all? Totally excited!!
@@ToyManTelevision Hi again. Very nice response. Logical maybe, considered, interesting. Unfortunately it does not consider the fact that UP is downsizing. Getting rid of these locomotives is one way to reduce taxes AND get tax credits. You didn't mention that. I didn't mention anything about who does and does not run on UP rails - BNBSF does. I think NS does as well. That is NOT the issue here. The point is the Ed has a near fully equipped shop to renovate, rebuild, repair virtually any locomotive UP has or has had. 3985 was, is a back up to be run when 844 OR 4014 is off for inspection or tear-down. With three operating locomotives - two of them being the largest practical engines ever built, two of them will always be available. If what you say is true, then 3985 will never again run on UP rials. It will languish in some museum and that's it - next stop, scrapyard. There should be a public outcry over 3985 being given away. This engine has been running for years. It was returned to service my the efforts of many volunteers.
You made no mention that UP is laying off workers, reducing crew sizes, attempting to reduce the cab crew on long, heavy trains. They are in a tangle with congress right now . You did not mention that UP last year had one of the most profitable years in it's history. AND - they care cutting, crews, personell, rolling stock, engines are being mothballed and maintenance programs curtained. They are not even properly inspecting rail cars. This has nothing to do with UP budget, Ed or anything else. Truth be known I would bet that Ed was told to get those engines a new home. CUT THE STEAM SHOP COSTS just like everything else for the sake of the stockholders profit and CEO' insulting bonus. Unlike 4014, 3985 can go like a scared cat. It is less damaging to the rails, far more trackage available, easier engine to make curves. consumes less fuel, has longer legs and is just as fascinating as 4014. There is every reason to keep it, rebuild it as required and return it to UP service. You do a great job of promoting. You have a lot of people interested in your banter and travel tales. USE IT to help Ed keep that engine at home where it belongs. It has a shield on the front UP. Not Illinois museum, repair shops or junk yard. Please, look at what it going on in congress right now. Look at what ALL rail roads are trying to do. UP spending way down, UP profits - Way Up. UP CEO Bigger Bonus. Please, speak up. Call a spade a spade and not a F...... shovel. Boeing made the same mistake - catering to stockholders, remember what happened. Take care. Waiting for your next adventure. You have a great channel.
Technically five steam engines The fifth is the steam crane.
Well then six! The steam rotary.
13:42 how cheeky...
>w
Those 2 steam locomotives that are apart. Are both named; "Napoleon"!
"Napoleon Blown apart!!""
Can you buy a ticket and ride in the crummy?
Hi. Oops missed this. Yes!
0:40
3:30 2x speed
5:53 normal
just like 😊😊 a truck 🚚 or car when engine is worn out it has 2 be overhauled new pistons rings cylinder sleeves new vavles and vavle gudies new main and rod bearings new oil pump new water pump new vavle seats and the engine and the cylinder head needs 2 be checked w a straight edge 2 make sure the engine and the cylinder head is level and the crank shaft needs 2 be built back up and turned back 2 spec 😊😊 OMG 5 6 2O24
too bad ol marky rammasch of Wabash Railroad Contractors aint around to help! lolololo! too bad the state and feds wont ever come in and look at the books of the railroad.
I personally think the whole thing is rather sad. Just unfortunate all the way around.