The concept of multiple dreamers in The Return makes sense when you consider the possibility that most scenes that take place in The Roadhouse, including all the musical numbers and scenes involving various characters, are all part of Audrey's coma nightmare that she can't escape from.
It's always strange to me that Frost is never mentioned. Surely he is near 50% of the brains behind this wonderful and crazy world Twin Peaks has given us.
The part where you pointed out that Laura screamed in the original series when the veil dropped and she realized that Bob was occupying her father while he assaulted her made me realize something. Is it possible when she has the exact same realization scream in the return, when she hears her mother's voice while looking at her old house, that Judy is occupying her mother? That explain how her mother did that insane thing with her face and everything, or at least I think it would...
Seeing Take The Ring in the notifications feels like Birthday and Christmas. Someday there will be a notification of It is happening again, David Lynch and Mark Frost joining on creating another season of Twin Peaks. Lets radiate this back to the unified field so that Lynch will pick it up from there and figure out the need to tell us what's on the missing page through another masterpiece like The Return.
That's the thing that really sends a chill down my spine about the end of the Return, this concept that 'Judy' is an all encompassing, erm.... thing. No individuals, no implied ghosts, no singular oddballs (as set out in the original) but a world, a realm or a dimension. Like the one we exist in. Tantalising.
A compelling analysis, brilliantly edited, and a real pleasure to watch. Many thanks! I hope your going to continue making videos on Twin Peaks. Keep the dream alive!
This was a fantastic video, I’ve been bed ridden for 9 days now unable to sit still or prevent myself from going into fits of panic, my throat barely has a needle width gap to breath, I’ve only been able to eat 2 small bowls of soup in 9 days and just generally uneasy because the diagnosis the doctors gave me isn’t adding up and the medicine isn’t working, it’s actually agitating my pain further and giving me new symptoms which are pointing to the bleakest outcome my doctor flirted with but I sat through this entire video and barely blinked with a long hot water bottle tight around my neck, the last 25 minutes and 38 seconds have been the only form of relief I have experienced in what seems like forever squeezed into 9 days & nights. Thank you so much for this!
Jeremiah this is beautifully done. I've had many elements of the theories you express here flash across my mind at one point or another, but you've tied it all together in a way that I don't think anyone else has. Twin Peaks is an exquisite and unique gift to the universe from David Lynch, and videos like yours truly do help keep the dream alive. Thank you for all the work you obviously put in to this piece, and for sharing your very convincing interpretations.
Speaking as one who went through childhood abuse, the idea of Laura's dream fascinates me. It means agent Cooper is her trying to solve her abuse and death. She can't have peace in the afterlife because she is haunted. When bob inhabits Cooper it is an experience for herself to find sympathy for her abuser if her abuser was possessed. Only by experiencing that evil first hand can she forgive who hurt her developing compassion for an abuser who had no choice. I have done the same in understanding my parents upbringing and how they could have made choices I would never have made. Her scream at the end makes total sense for me as well because even though she can forgive the abuser you can never forget the abuse, that scream was towards all that happened to her. It wasn't fair to her and it never will be. But maybe now she can rest in peace. Maybe now she loves her dad and her mom, maybe she has forgiven them.
Welcome back! Good to see new posts by you. Awesome Essay. For Twin Peaks being a dream, David was asked this question and he replied saying, "no, it actually happened". I think this is the same event where David is on Skype to an audience, on one side of the stage and he is also asked whats happening in Twin Peaks right now and he closes his eyes for some seconds to (im guessing) receiving ideas in real time and then tells the answer.
You hit on a lot of great points. A few clues that the Twin Peaks in part 18 is the real world, as opposed the the idealized dream world from the original series and most of the Return, they gas up at a Valero instead of Big Eds. The house is occupied by the actual homeowner. Everything has a realistic look and feel, instead of the TV-like original quaintness. And the way Dale/Richard acts is the biggest clue. He's more of a regular guy, less polite, even a little bit like Mr. C. And you explained perfectly why there's little inconsistencies, like Becky having a car in one scene, and not in another. Theyre caught in an infinite loop where little changes occur but the main story stays the same. This explains all those little odd glitches and time frame issues that didn't add up. Becky's story was full of them but they were all throughout the Return.
damn dude, I don't think I caught that about Becky's car. I always say this, BUT I do plan on talking about Becky in another video - there's a lot of those glitch things going on with her storyline. glad you're digging my content!
@@TakeTheRingforgive my lengthy reply. theres just so many questions. Did something happen to Hawk? Maybe when he found Glastonbury grove? Or visited Sarah? Many clues in his Log lady conversations. (References to when they USE to talk "face to face") Then watch the scene in the station where "Hawk said to meet him here", the way he emerges from his offoce in complete shadow/darkness seems odd. And when Cooper looks at him in part 17 "now, some things will change..." Hawk gives this understanding nod. Something is up with that. With my most recent viewing i realized. Pretty much every character has these odd implications that make you wonder if theyre dead, part of a dream, etc. Like Lucy still dressing the same, saying she never goes home. Wally seems not real. And he was supposedly born 25 years ago. Like everything ties back to Dales original experience in Twin Peaks, the station seems stuck in 1991, minus a few details. Is Dale always the dreamer? And Audrey and her extremely bizarre situation needs to be dissected. 'Whos the dreamer' could almost change scene to scene. Was Big Ed dreaming about getting his freedom, and meeting/proposing to Norma? Maybe him eating soup was the depressing real world. Was the scene where Becky was invited to pie a dream? she had a car and was worried about steven again, after all the chaos we saw. The scene where shelly, becky and bobby meet in the dinner starts kind of normal but unravels quickly into a nightmare type scenario. Also the timeline is weird. It seems to jump all over the place. Most scenes have hints as to what day they take place (dates written, moon phases mentioned, watches visible) and it seems to never quite add up. Frost said the show was mostly happening chronologically but im not so sure. The bleeding drunk in jail, does anyone else see him except the crooked cop Chad? Plus he dissapears as soon as Freddie knocks the cop out. Never seen again. Is he just a manifestation of guilt or something? Also i wish i fully understood the early episode where Dale should be able to come back in. If Dale went through the original socket, before Naido flipped the switch, where would he have ended up? In Mr. Cs Mercedes/BMW driving? Glastonbury Grove? Was Naido working for Mr C in the muave zone? I still don't even fully understand that whole scene, with the blocked curtains and the arms doppleganger .
@@kevinr.3542 yeah totally, I tried to tease that at the end with showing the shot of Audrey before the waterfall - besides us and the creators, pretty much any character could be considered the dreamer of this story or characters inside another dream. it's an endless game to play in your head - that's why I love it so much and why it's still talked about, I think
Thank you so much for creating this well-made and very revelatory video. It's helping me to understand Lynch's use of dream logic with so much more clarity. Plus, it didn't take you 4:35:39 to explain it, like THAT OTHER VIDEO - LOL! Have most excellent Laura Palmer day: R.I.P. Laura - July 22, 1972 - February 24, 1989
@@jefjaegeryeah idk why people hate on it. Everyone’s take is legit on Tp and though some make more sense than others, that’s what’s great about it and I liked Twin Perfects ideas even if I didn’t agree with all of it… I’d never throw hate at him bc he obviously loves TP as much if not more than I do bc damn he put so much time and effort into that! Even this 20 min video took tons of time so a four hour video that’s informative and edited well and humorous and engaging. And contains reasons for every idea he puts forth!… that alone is impressive and deserves applause. We all love the same series and that is a good thing. We don’t have to agree but we don’t have to throw shade at another creator just bc we don’t like what he thinks the show is about. Personally I thought the flashes on Laura’s face in the lodge being a tv screen was a fkn cool idea.
I love your channel and this is my favorite theory by far. This analysis is so well put together, I love how you used clues from Lynch's other works and his infatuation with "dream logic" to explain the story of Twin Peaks. My dreams definitely follow the type of dream logic that Lynch references and it puts a whole new perspective for me on how the story is being told.
Thanks for the hard work and the thoughtful video essay. If I live to be a million I'll never get enough of Twin Peaks or the intellectual rigor that many members of the fan community bring to theorizing about its many meanings and interpretations. Bravo. And Happy Twin Peaks Day!
Incredible work!! I thoroughly enjoyed this. The idea of the 8/infinity symbol being a mobius loop and the intersection being FWWM is so awesome. This has given me a lot to think about...
This is beautifully clever and well done, a thousand thanks. I've always had the feeling that Audrey was the dreamer somehow, from her reaction to Laura's death in the pilot and her last scene in the Return. And the removal of Annie Blackburn from the story.
@@TakeTheRing I've been thinking a lot about Audrey's psychology recently, and have a suspicion that The Secret Diary unlocks her for me (pgs 13; 27-28 in the paperback reprint). Her quiet, lonely idiosyncrasies in the Pilot reflect Audrey's life up to that point - desperate for the love of her family but instead intensely jealous of Laura and her father's continuous attention and love for her over Audrey. After Laura dies, it's almost like Audrey recognizes the hole left behind and seizes the opportunity to fill that in the lives of everyone around her, especially her father. Her greater openness in Season 1 onward, and her desire to "solve Laura's murder", ultimately comes down to her wish to be who Laura was (and is, in the mind of Cooper) in people's lives so she can finally obtain love and acceptance, and the consequences are disastrous. If we assume TR Audrey is trapped in her own head (institutionalized), and Charlie's threat to "end her story too" is Audrey's internal fear about ending up [dead? abused? trapped and miserable?] like Laura, "the story of the little girl who lived down the lane" is obviously that of Laura, specifically the child Laura who got that strange kick out of how she could divert Ben Horne's attention away from his own daughter.
@@SoLinkSmash this is good 👍 I have a whole bunch of ideas about Audrey, but this is a new take 'being Laura' as ot were. I dig it - definitely makes sense!
This was really amazing to watch and always interesting to see things differently. This show and movie has and will forever have a special place in my heart my birthday is Feb. 24 and as sad as it seems I get to share it with Laura Palmer. Into the Night.
Happy actual birthday! It is the 24th of Feb here just now actually. ❤ that’s crazy! I just happened to see your old comment on the exact right day. Very cool.
wow. i just finished the return for the first time last night, and i still can't shake that ending. fantastic video. you brought up so many great different ideas. i have even more to think about now....
Thanks for making this stories and thinking through all these Amazing details! I AM watching this for the forth time! In love with the storm and explanations❤
The Character called Lill that shows up to notify them of the blue rose incident is the key primer that reveals everything is shown in acoded metaphor.
Also tho what about what the one armed man says when he says like it is, like it sounds. So not always metaphor but something exactly like it seems. So it could be both. “I mean it like it is, like it sounds.” Honestly kinda seems like a way for lynch to have his cake and eat it too 😅 and I’m ok w that. It’s a wild ride even with quirky season 2 part 1 when lynch was mia and the return was… out there… the itchy armpit and the hulk hands were too much for me but I’m still here for it.
Imho TP is a layered cake of meaning. The viewer comprehends only the layers which match their level of consciousness. I've tried writing more about this but my words end up in the silicon void if you catch my drift.
I think there is a case for the dreamer (likely Cooper) having killed Laura Palmer, either literally or figuratively. The dreamer grapples with guilt over her being gone from the dream, everyone saw Laura as this golden perfect being, so creates a dream imagining if she had lived, but its an ugly reality, Laura was actually deeply flawed. This makes Laura in The Return a tulpa, a copy who has some of her memories, who ceases to exist when confronted with this trauma just like any Tulpa who returns to the lodge. But who knows, thats the magic of Twin Peaks.
Thank you so much!! This is such a great talk, really perfect!! There is yet so much to tell and this is such a great way to look into this masterpiece or should I say those masterpieces. Thank you for this
THIS is genius! 🤩🦉☕🍩 I've always believed that it was multiple dreams happening but, that the focus was always on Laura and Cooper. Oh man....you got my wheels spinning now...lol. My brain is on FIRE! 🔥
I adore the voice of narrator. It's perfect! Concentrated, strong, perfect accent and pronounce. I saw this video 4 times in 5 days...I am completely facinated by the theories.
Amazing analysis, makes a lot of sense. One of the best commentaries on TP I've seen thus far. I recently watched a video where the presenter spoke about an ancient text (i forgot which one, possibly a Vedic text) that spoke about the Universe running on an infinite loop with minor variations in each iteration. The brilliant series Dark also hinges its narrative structure on this figure 8 repeating loop concept. In that show two separate yet linked universes are created when a scientist tries to reverse the past. Which is pretty much what you described. Dark also has an ambiguous ending; but is more satisfying imho than TP because you need not watch hours of analysis on TH-cam to understand it... regardless i respect Lynch's penchant for mystery.
Duality as nightmare. You showed the scene where Cole/Lynch is drawing what looks like a dog with antlers or such...in the '90s at the Atlanta alt weekly CL, we ran his cartoon, The Angriest Dog in the World.
A wonderful summary, and beautiful fitting tribute to a great work of art. Your best piece yet. I look forward to more. As soon as the Canadian border opens you'll find me at the Double R/tweeds.
Perfect timing. Today I just finished season 3 for my 5th time. I swear it gets better every time. The meanings and layers get deeper. Psyched to see a new video on this subject. God I hope there's a season 4 , and David Lynch is just really being secretive about it. I noticed he recently cut his hair to a more Gordon Cole-esque length. Please let Unrecorded Night be about Carrie Page. Maybe the night Cooper "saved/erased" Laura Palmer in episode 17?
@@TakeTheRing The Return is still being discovered and picked appart today. The only other times ive seen so many layers, interpretations and discussions around a piece of modern fiction are in movies like The Shinning and 2001:A Space Odyssey. Where a masterful director considered every detail and hid many meaningful clues throughout. Nobody is putting that kind of effort/thought into movies these days. We absolutely need more of this caliber of work. Showtime, Netflix, whatever...they should be throwing money at David Lynch
Great work! Thought provoking and thoroughly enjoyable! One thing I found interesting was the number of references to dreaming in The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, which I recently read for the first time. There are numerous examples written by Laura, such as: I have had nightmare after nightmare and have finally chosen to avoid sleeping altogether. Sometimes when I'm dreaming I feel trapped there and so frightened. If only I could stop this fear / Of dreaming that I'm dying I will not let anyone hurt me, like in the dream. I'll hurt myself first. I am either dreaming him [BOB] to life, and slowly killing myself, or he has told my parents of his visits and has offered, in return for their own safety, that these visits will continue without possibility of interruption. I tried to talk to Dad at breakfast and he just sat there twitching, like he doesn't have any extra thoughts [...] Neither one of my parents will talk to me... What is this? Some kind of dream? [...] I am only doing what I am suddenly used to doing... Creating a show for other people to look at, while inside my head, I go into a dream. See? You [BOB] are in my head. No one besides you knew the details of my dream of death. Not sure how canon anyone considers this book, but it's an interesting point of discussion for the topic of dreamers, especially given it was published early on in terms of Twin Peaks material.
you should, it's a really short read - I did the whole thing in one evening. Character stories from The Secret History that would have kind of spoiled The Return and Frost's "final thoughts" as it were
I think this is a good analysis, Twin Pefects 4 and a half hour analysis is the best I've listened to, and yours is like a shorter version. You guys have the same ideas 💡
Damn this video rules. Bravo!!! The only problem I always have with the dream theories (which very may well be true) is that I always feel like it’s just a cop out. I prefer to think of the supernatural elements are truly at play here. Good vs evil. Light vs dark. These characters are in the middle of this battle. But hey that’s just the way I see it. Or rather want to see it. Lynch’s work is open to all interpretations that’s the beauty of it. Still this is a fascinating video and really does make sense from the dream perspective.
Laura's bedroom is different when comparing Fire Walk With Me to the first episode. It's as if there is a parallel version over lapping into each other. It's likely connected through electricity and phantom lodges. But that's just me.
Just finished to watch FWWM, Missing Pieces and first three episodes of your Twin Peaks Analysis (that I downloaded in 2019) and came here to check your channel... Let's talk about Judy now ;) Thank you 👍
The concept of Twin Peaks being a dream of Cooper's makes sense when expanded upon sure, But I think even just the fact that Mark Frost is the co creator of Twin Peaks, rather than it being a sole creation of Lynch is reason to discard this theory. If it was just Lynch, I'd be more open to the idea, but knowing that Frost is the one who was big into the expanding lore of the show in a sci fi/fantasy type sense makes me feel this is more the type of show it is. I love Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (and Eraserhead too) for their dream concepts but I feel like Twin Peaks is just its own thing. It can be an effective story without it needing to be all a dream too
About to rewatch the entire series and movie and I am soaking up as much TP content as possible beforehand. Lynch is the dreamer and I’m here for it. I like the idea TP is a critique on our obsession with tv violence. And all the insanity is such a treat. Then I’m gonna play Alan wake 1 and 2 😂
wonderfully done! taking a LOT of elements and squishing them into an actual idea. but, that's always been Lynch's MO (sorry, couldn't resist). I like that he never says "this IS that" or "here and when is where this is really going on". he's been very canny about keeping specifics loose and up to interpretation. never REALLY spelling it out for you, or spoon-feeding you. he'll give you all the options but he never points one way. i truly admire that, and his idea about 'you fill it in, let yrself try to make sense of it, and you might be right, cause i SURE don't know!'. unfortunately, (or fortunately!), i doubt we'll ever truly know, and I, for one, am totally fine w/ that!!! Stan Kubrick left no real questions (mostly), Coppola the same, but, again, that's alright w/ me. take it for what it is/might be/could be/etc. it's still got that 'what just happened???' quality, no matter what! let's keep it that way and keep asking the questions, cause, let's be honest- that's the answer ;)
It's slippery in here. The antlered creature is also a variation of Lynch's '90s comic strip character The Angriest Dog in the World we ran in an Atlanta alt weekly. Essentially the dog with antlers.
Bruuuhh You Really Figured Some Shit Out I Loved This, Genuinely Learned/Gained Some New Info, I Think You ACTUALLY Solved The Ending In A Literal Sense Anyways, Obviously There Can Be Lots Of Interpretations Symbolically But The Scenes Lining Up And The Screams? That Makes So Much Fucking Sense, A+++
Since that one scene with cole seeing lauras face crying in the doorway in the return i always felt like some subconcious part in his mind, knew , felt or suspected, in another plain of dream or reality he is the person who created her.
Cooper is the one trying to change the past and is messing with time. Hes the one that forces Laura into an infinite loop of reliving her life. She can't rest in peace.
The first time I saw Inland Empire i had been channel surfing in the middle of the night and came upon it after it had started maybe 20 minutes or so into it. I ended up watching the rest of it and I loved it. I remember thinking after it was over that it was the closest any film had ever come to what an actual dream is like. Also just jumping in after it had started and missing the very beginning only added to the mystery and dreamlike quality.
Nice review i like it. My Lynchian addition to ponder is: Harry S Truman + atomic bomb = ? Is it just writers prerogative or something else. Probably nothing but I'm surprised I've never seen anyone else raise this at least as a curiosity. I like the idea he was reincarnated as a sheriff to solve a mystery related to something he is directly responsible for unleashing upon the world.
I love this idea. He’s just laughing at all of us with these deep takes on what it all means. And maybe that’s the point or there is no point or all the points are right. I did hear when the return was being written one of the writers asked lynch who judy was and lynch says “I have no idea” 😂😂 That writer was who came up with the Jau-day idea from an ancient Sumerian god. And came up with the idea David Bowie said jau-day in his country accent so it just sounded like judy. So as much as we wanna credit Lynch for a lot of the big ideas it’s possible lynch was just letting the crew kinda run with random ideas to see what wild takes he could foster in other people’s minds. Dudes kinda like a god at this point.
great video! i hate the theory people throw around of it just "being a dream". this video takes it into so much more depth, and i much prefer it over an easy write off that none of it happened
that's what I struggled with when The Return finished too - "it's all a dream" feels like a cop out, right? but like you said, I chose to go deeper and have some fun with it and explore that angle from different characters to Lynch to us as viewers. also, I always try to remember that the Wizard of Oz is all a dream too - and it doesn't really take away from the hero's journey. so, even if it's not real, we experience it with the character as if it was real - so really, what's the difference, you know? thanks for the comment!
Did you even watched any of Lynch movies? Its all about dreams, and Twin Peaks is about dreaming, too. Just look carefully all episodes from start to finish and especially FWWM movie.
@@nikolailic431 i’ve watched them all, many times. lynch is inspired by dreams and uses dreams in his stories. this does not mean his movies are all dreams. twin peaks is not just all one long dream, and if thats your interpretation i feel sorry for you
@@thebasedgodmax1163 I know, but I didnt want to waste my time with thousand uneccesary theories. Twin Peaks is all about occulth/duality. "Twin" Peaks, Mike/Bob, good/evil, black/white lodges. Double life of Laura Palmer, and her father Leland, mirror reflection of Bob/Leland- duality, double life of almost all TP citizens just look season1&2 every single character, good/bad Dale Cooper... It is also worshipping of Owl/Bob and saturn/ring Mike. Its all about dualism, show is full of masonic and occult symbols. I know all that bcs been in world of occult and esoteric practices for years before I became a Christian, glory to Jesus my Lord. But every time when I watch TP show again from beggining to end, it definitely looking like someone's dream.
As in the material world there are different material forces acting on the material plain for power and control it makes sense to assume that in the spiritual world also such "Dreamers" are in competition with one another.
For me I think you need to take the dreamer one step further. We are the dreamer who watch the dreamer (Lynch) dream. I think it is always wise to not get caught up in plot. Plot is the red herring that Lynch likes to use to obscure the story.
rewatching this for like the 10th time 8:16 theres a resident evil Umbrella symbol on one of the boxes which.. i know is really a symbol of something else but it just strikes me as odd... like maybe they took this prop from the resident evil movies.. forgot to take off the label? what is that for? am i missing something?
Excellent! I would love to see how you would differentiate The Missing Pieces and Fire Walk With Me in this schema - the same hingepoint between the two circles during two different loops? Perhaps one could interpret TMP to be 'canon' to the version of history which Cooper changes by saving Laura and in which Jeffries arrives in 1989 instead of 1988. I am interested in further analysis between these two works and their relationship to everything else bc I interpret TMP as the developmental lynchpin (heh) between the original TP productions from 1989-92 and The Return: shot as part of the original FWWM in 1992 but only edited and released in 2014, reflecting Lynch's later fragmented directorial/editing style we see in The Return, and operating on a very similar emotional level. Contrary to the belief that FWWM was "darker" than the rest of TP, when FWWM and TMP are taken together, the style and content so closely resembles the tonal and narrative variety of The Return.
🔥🔥🔥 yes! I agree 100% about TMP relating to The Return. I have some notes jotted down about it - not sure if I'll do a whole video though. but YES - the actual editing, like the long gaps in dialogue and silence/staring between Truman and Andy in TMP is just like TR. AND things like Lucy not understanding the intercom in TMP is literally the same thing as her not understanding cell phones in TR. AND YES, I'm totally onboard with TMP is the missing Jeffries link, the crossroads/intersection of where 1988 (original canon/timeline) meets 1989 (retcon/new timeline) -- great comments! (I do explore this a little bit in my Jeffries video if you haven't seen it 👍)
@@TakeTheRing Thanks for the quick reply! One example of a scene in TMP that gives me such an impression of TR is the wide shot of the Double R that lasts for a long time, intercut with Shelly going out and in, Nadine/Ed going in and out, and Norma crying in the booth. Or another: the fight between Chet and Cable (and indeed, the whole "new setting" of the Deer Meadow investigation) would fit right into any episode of TR tonally and pacing-wise. Anyway, glad to hear that you've noticed this too and have some notes on it already. Cheers!
The concept of multiple dreamers in The Return makes sense when you consider the possibility that most scenes that take place in The Roadhouse, including all the musical numbers and scenes involving various characters, are all part of Audrey's coma nightmare that she can't escape from.
It's always strange to me that Frost is never mentioned. Surely he is near 50% of the brains behind this wonderful and crazy world Twin Peaks has given us.
they said that when you write with someone, they stop remembering who came up with what, they’re all just 100% THEIR ideas :)
He's had plenty of time and opportunity to bitch about it and never has. I don't think he gives a shit.
The part where you pointed out that Laura screamed in the original series when the veil dropped and she realized that Bob was occupying her father while he assaulted her made me realize something. Is it possible when she has the exact same realization scream in the return, when she hears her mother's voice while looking at her old house, that Judy is occupying her mother? That explain how her mother did that insane thing with her face and everything, or at least I think it would...
I think this is pretty dead on tbh
@@JacketVEVO Laura's mother may have invited Bob through Judy. Kind of chilling.
Seeing Take The Ring in the notifications feels like Birthday and Christmas. Someday there will be a notification of It is happening again, David Lynch and Mark Frost joining on creating another season of Twin Peaks. Lets radiate this back to the unified field so that Lynch will pick it up from there and figure out the need to tell us what's on the missing page through another masterpiece like The Return.
too kind, thanks!
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Awesome video stay safe
That's the thing that really sends a chill down my spine about the end of the Return, this concept that 'Judy' is an all encompassing, erm.... thing. No individuals, no implied ghosts, no singular oddballs (as set out in the original) but a world, a realm or a dimension. Like the one we exist in. Tantalising.
A compelling analysis, brilliantly edited, and a real pleasure to watch. Many thanks! I hope your going to continue making videos on Twin Peaks. Keep the dream alive!
That's the plan!
This is splendidly done. Well worth the wait. You may have triggered a rewatch.
This was a fantastic video, I’ve been bed ridden for 9 days now unable to sit still or prevent myself from going into fits of panic, my throat barely has a needle width gap to breath, I’ve only been able to eat 2 small bowls of soup in 9 days and just generally uneasy because the diagnosis the doctors gave me isn’t adding up and the medicine isn’t working, it’s actually agitating my pain further and giving me new symptoms which are pointing to the bleakest outcome my doctor flirted with but I sat through this entire video and barely blinked with a long hot water bottle tight around my neck, the last 25 minutes and 38 seconds have been the only form of relief I have experienced in what seems like forever squeezed into 9 days & nights.
Thank you so much for this!
Hope you're feeling better now
Jesus Christ you poor thing! I hope that all went away after all this time XO that sounds like literal hell !
This is fascinating. I haven't stopped thinking about The Return since I watched it. I can't say the same for any of my other favorite shows.
Amazing. Twin Peaks is so meta that it is hard to analyse.
Jeremiah this is beautifully done. I've had many elements of the theories you express here flash across my mind at one point or another, but you've tied it all together in a way that I don't think anyone else has. Twin Peaks is an exquisite and unique gift to the universe from David Lynch, and videos like yours truly do help keep the dream alive. Thank you for all the work you obviously put in to this piece, and for sharing your very convincing interpretations.
🔥thanks so much man🔥
Speaking as one who went through childhood abuse, the idea of Laura's dream fascinates me. It means agent Cooper is her trying to solve her abuse and death. She can't have peace in the afterlife because she is haunted. When bob inhabits Cooper it is an experience for herself to find sympathy for her abuser if her abuser was possessed. Only by experiencing that evil first hand can she forgive who hurt her developing compassion for an abuser who had no choice. I have done the same in understanding my parents upbringing and how they could have made choices I would never have made. Her scream at the end makes total sense for me as well because even though she can forgive the abuser you can never forget the abuse, that scream was towards all that happened to her. It wasn't fair to her and it never will be. But maybe now she can rest in peace. Maybe now she loves her dad and her mom, maybe she has forgiven them.
Welcome back! Good to see new posts by you. Awesome Essay.
For Twin Peaks being a dream, David was asked this question and he replied saying, "no, it actually happened". I think this is the same event where David is on Skype to an audience, on one side of the stage and he is also asked whats happening in Twin Peaks right now and he closes his eyes for some seconds to (im guessing) receiving ideas in real time and then tells the answer.
Damn, your videos are always super solid, but this one was something else. I'm going to be thinking about it for a week.
You hit on a lot of great points. A few clues that the Twin Peaks in part 18 is the real world, as opposed the the idealized dream world from the original series and most of the Return, they gas up at a Valero instead of Big Eds. The house is occupied by the actual homeowner. Everything has a realistic look and feel, instead of the TV-like original quaintness.
And the way Dale/Richard acts is the biggest clue. He's more of a regular guy, less polite, even a little bit like Mr. C.
And you explained perfectly why there's little inconsistencies, like Becky having a car in one scene, and not in another. Theyre caught in an infinite loop where little changes occur but the main story stays the same. This explains all those little odd glitches and time frame issues that didn't add up. Becky's story was full of them but they were all throughout the Return.
damn dude, I don't think I caught that about Becky's car. I always say this, BUT I do plan on talking about Becky in another video - there's a lot of those glitch things going on with her storyline. glad you're digging my content!
@@TakeTheRingforgive my lengthy reply. theres just so many questions.
Did something happen to Hawk? Maybe when he found Glastonbury grove? Or visited Sarah? Many clues in his Log lady conversations. (References to when they USE to talk "face to face") Then watch the scene in the station where "Hawk said to meet him here", the way he emerges from his offoce in complete shadow/darkness seems odd. And when Cooper looks at him in part 17 "now, some things will change..." Hawk gives this understanding nod. Something is up with that.
With my most recent viewing i realized. Pretty much every character has these odd implications that make you wonder if theyre dead, part of a dream, etc. Like Lucy still dressing the same, saying she never goes home. Wally seems not real. And he was supposedly born 25 years ago. Like everything ties back to Dales original experience in Twin Peaks, the station seems stuck in 1991, minus a few details. Is Dale always the dreamer?
And Audrey and her extremely bizarre situation needs to be dissected.
'Whos the dreamer' could almost change scene to scene. Was Big Ed dreaming about getting his freedom, and meeting/proposing to Norma? Maybe him eating soup was the depressing real world.
Was the scene where Becky was invited to pie a dream? she had a car and was worried about steven again, after all the chaos we saw.
The scene where shelly, becky and bobby meet in the dinner starts kind of normal but unravels quickly into a nightmare type scenario.
Also the timeline is weird. It seems to jump all over the place. Most scenes have hints as to what day they take place (dates written, moon phases mentioned, watches visible) and it seems to never quite add up. Frost said the show was mostly happening chronologically but im not so sure.
The bleeding drunk in jail, does anyone else see him except the crooked cop Chad? Plus he dissapears as soon as Freddie knocks the cop out. Never seen again. Is he just a manifestation of guilt or something?
Also i wish i fully understood the early episode where Dale should be able to come back in. If Dale went through the original socket, before Naido flipped the switch, where would he have ended up? In Mr. Cs Mercedes/BMW driving? Glastonbury Grove? Was Naido working for Mr C in the muave zone? I still don't even fully understand that whole scene, with the blocked curtains and the arms doppleganger .
@@kevinr.3542 yeah totally, I tried to tease that at the end with showing the shot of Audrey before the waterfall - besides us and the creators, pretty much any character could be considered the dreamer of this story or characters inside another dream. it's an endless game to play in your head - that's why I love it so much and why it's still talked about, I think
Thank you so much for creating this well-made and very revelatory video. It's helping me to understand Lynch's use of dream logic with so much more clarity. Plus, it didn't take you 4:35:39 to explain it, like THAT OTHER VIDEO - LOL! Have most excellent Laura Palmer day: R.I.P. Laura - July 22, 1972 - February 24, 1989
'The other video' is still very good and worth the watch...
@@jefjaegeryeah idk why people hate on it. Everyone’s take is legit on Tp and though some make more sense than others, that’s what’s great about it and I liked Twin Perfects ideas even if I didn’t agree with all of it… I’d never throw hate at him bc he obviously loves TP as much if not more than I do bc damn he put so much time and effort into that! Even this 20 min video took tons of time so a four hour video that’s informative and edited well and humorous and engaging. And contains reasons for every idea he puts forth!… that alone is impressive and deserves applause.
We all love the same series and that is a good thing. We don’t have to agree but we don’t have to throw shade at another creator just bc we don’t like what he thinks the show is about. Personally I thought the flashes on Laura’s face in the lodge being a tv screen was a fkn cool idea.
One of the best episodes so far, brilliant, congrats.
I love your channel and this is my favorite theory by far. This analysis is so well put together, I love how you used clues from Lynch's other works and his infatuation with "dream logic" to explain the story of Twin Peaks. My dreams definitely follow the type of dream logic that Lynch references and it puts a whole new perspective for me on how the story is being told.
Thanks for the hard work and the thoughtful video essay. If I live to be a million I'll never get enough of Twin Peaks or the intellectual rigor that many members of the fan community bring to theorizing about its many meanings and interpretations. Bravo. And Happy Twin Peaks Day!
your videos are phenomenal - both on an analytical/research level and in terms of technical prowess. Incredible, incredible stuff.
I wasn’t mentally ready for the sake cooper analysis, thanks will have watch again now.
Incredible work!! I thoroughly enjoyed this. The idea of the 8/infinity symbol being a mobius loop and the intersection being FWWM is so awesome. This has given me a lot to think about...
This is beautifully clever and well done, a thousand thanks. I've always had the feeling that Audrey was the dreamer somehow, from her reaction to Laura's death in the pilot and her last scene in the Return. And the removal of Annie Blackburn from the story.
I tried to tease a shot of Audrey at the end there - she's a whole other video!
@@TakeTheRing she does appear quickly in this one... A teaser 😊 can't wait for more videos from you.
@@TakeTheRing I've been thinking a lot about Audrey's psychology recently, and have a suspicion that The Secret Diary unlocks her for me (pgs 13; 27-28 in the paperback reprint). Her quiet, lonely idiosyncrasies in the Pilot reflect Audrey's life up to that point - desperate for the love of her family but instead intensely jealous of Laura and her father's continuous attention and love for her over Audrey. After Laura dies, it's almost like Audrey recognizes the hole left behind and seizes the opportunity to fill that in the lives of everyone around her, especially her father. Her greater openness in Season 1 onward, and her desire to "solve Laura's murder", ultimately comes down to her wish to be who Laura was (and is, in the mind of Cooper) in people's lives so she can finally obtain love and acceptance, and the consequences are disastrous. If we assume TR Audrey is trapped in her own head (institutionalized), and Charlie's threat to "end her story too" is Audrey's internal fear about ending up [dead? abused? trapped and miserable?] like Laura, "the story of the little girl who lived down the lane" is obviously that of Laura, specifically the child Laura who got that strange kick out of how she could divert Ben Horne's attention away from his own daughter.
@@SoLinkSmash this is good 👍 I have a whole bunch of ideas about Audrey, but this is a new take 'being Laura' as ot were. I dig it - definitely makes sense!
Another fantastic analysis 🤭 This is so well done and fascinating 😲 Once again I’m totally captivated 👏🏻
This was really amazing to watch and always interesting to see things differently. This show and movie has and will forever have a special place in my heart my birthday is Feb. 24 and as sad as it seems I get to share it with Laura Palmer. Into the Night.
Happy actual birthday! It is the 24th of Feb here just now actually. ❤ that’s crazy! I just happened to see your old comment on the exact right day. Very cool.
thank you!@@HeatherHolt It's 4:52 am for me right now. I just got the chills from your comment.
wow. i just finished the return for the first time last night, and i still can't shake that ending. fantastic video. you brought up so many great different ideas. i have even more to think about now....
Take the ring...beautiful again. I love your takes on my favorite show. Watched it when it was first on the air; yes I'm old!
I love your Twin Peaks videos so much! Brilliant, introspective and beautifully edited. Thanks. 👍🏼☕
Excellent work as always! Totally ate up every second.
Thanks for making this stories and thinking through all these Amazing details! I AM watching this for the forth time! In love with the storm and explanations❤
The Character called Lill that shows up to notify them of the blue rose incident is the key primer that reveals everything is shown in acoded metaphor.
Also tho what about what the one armed man says when he says like it is, like it sounds. So not always metaphor but something exactly like it seems.
So it could be both.
“I mean it like it is, like it sounds.”
Honestly kinda seems like a way for lynch to have his cake and eat it too 😅 and I’m ok w that. It’s a wild ride even with quirky season 2 part 1 when lynch was mia and the return was… out there… the itchy armpit and the hulk hands were too much for me but I’m still here for it.
Imho TP is a layered cake of meaning. The viewer comprehends only the layers which match their level of consciousness. I've tried writing more about this but my words end up in the silicon void if you catch my drift.
I think there is a case for the dreamer (likely Cooper) having killed Laura Palmer, either literally or figuratively.
The dreamer grapples with guilt over her being gone from the dream, everyone saw Laura as this golden perfect being, so creates a dream imagining if she had lived, but its an ugly reality, Laura was actually deeply flawed.
This makes Laura in The Return a tulpa, a copy who has some of her memories, who ceases to exist when confronted with this trauma just like any Tulpa who returns to the lodge.
But who knows, thats the magic of Twin Peaks.
THIS IS EXTREMELY PROFOUND AND SUPERBE…
I wish you could just sit me down and explain the whole show to me. I think we would need a bit of time for that ! Great to see this video.
Thank you so much!! This is such a great talk, really perfect!! There is yet so much to tell and this is such a great way to look into this masterpiece or should I say those masterpieces. Thank you for this
Great work, thanks so much for your excellent work and contribution to the greater discussion of this incredible show.
Glad you enjoyed it!
THIS is genius! 🤩🦉☕🍩
I've always believed that it was multiple dreams happening but, that the focus was always on Laura and Cooper.
Oh man....you got my wheels spinning now...lol. My brain is on FIRE! 🔥
thanks Jami!
I adore the voice of narrator. It's perfect! Concentrated, strong, perfect accent and pronounce. I saw this video 4 times in 5 days...I am completely facinated by the theories.
Amazing analysis, makes a lot of sense. One of the best commentaries on TP I've seen thus far. I recently watched a video where the presenter spoke about an ancient text (i forgot which one, possibly a Vedic text) that spoke about the Universe running on an infinite loop with minor variations in each iteration. The brilliant series Dark also hinges its narrative structure on this figure 8 repeating loop concept. In that show two separate yet linked universes are created when a scientist tries to reverse the past. Which is pretty much what you described. Dark also has an ambiguous ending; but is more satisfying imho than TP because you need not watch hours of analysis on TH-cam to understand it... regardless i respect Lynch's penchant for mystery.
Duality as nightmare. You showed the scene where Cole/Lynch is drawing what looks like a dog with antlers or such...in the '90s at the Atlanta alt weekly CL, we ran his cartoon, The Angriest Dog in the World.
I like to remember things my way, yesterday doesnt exist
Bravo ! Quel travail remarquable. Vos vidéos sont passionnantes. Merci.
A wonderful summary, and beautiful fitting tribute to a great work of art. Your best piece yet. I look forward to more. As soon as the Canadian border opens you'll find me at the Double R/tweeds.
Thank you very much!
Perfect timing. Today I just finished season 3 for my 5th time. I swear it gets better every time. The meanings and layers get deeper. Psyched to see a new video on this subject. God I hope there's a season 4 , and David Lynch is just really being secretive about it. I noticed he recently cut his hair to a more Gordon Cole-esque length. Please let Unrecorded Night be about Carrie Page. Maybe the night Cooper "saved/erased" Laura Palmer in episode 17?
that would be sweet
@@TakeTheRing The Return is still being discovered and picked appart today. The only other times ive seen so many layers, interpretations and discussions around a piece of modern fiction are in movies like The Shinning and 2001:A Space Odyssey. Where a masterful director considered every detail and hid many meaningful clues throughout. Nobody is putting that kind of effort/thought into movies these days. We absolutely need more of this caliber of work. Showtime, Netflix, whatever...they should be throwing money at David Lynch
Great work! Thought provoking and thoroughly enjoyable!
One thing I found interesting was the number of references to dreaming in The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, which I recently read for the first time. There are numerous examples written by Laura, such as:
I have had nightmare after nightmare and have finally chosen to avoid sleeping altogether.
Sometimes when I'm dreaming I feel trapped there and so frightened.
If only I could stop this fear / Of dreaming that I'm dying
I will not let anyone hurt me, like in the dream. I'll hurt myself first.
I am either dreaming him [BOB] to life, and slowly killing myself, or he has told my parents of his visits and has offered, in return for their own safety, that these visits will continue without possibility of interruption.
I tried to talk to Dad at breakfast and he just sat there twitching, like he doesn't have any extra thoughts [...] Neither one of my parents will talk to me... What is this? Some kind of dream?
[...] I am only doing what I am suddenly used to doing... Creating a show for other people to look at, while inside my head, I go into a dream.
See? You [BOB] are in my head. No one besides you knew the details of my dream of death.
Not sure how canon anyone considers this book, but it's an interesting point of discussion for the topic of dreamers, especially given it was published early on in terms of Twin Peaks material.
This video just got me amped for another journey through the Twin-Peaks-verse, though I should probably finish The Final Dossier first.
you should, it's a really short read - I did the whole thing in one evening. Character stories from The Secret History that would have kind of spoiled The Return and Frost's "final thoughts" as it were
As always, EXTREMELY REWARDING CONTENT! Thank you.
I, with many, watched _FWWM_ Thursday. I missed a 2nd viewing tonight...for reasons.
Your video was welcome, and brilliant.
Have a great day!
Best video on twin peaks ive seen 🎉❤
I think this is a good analysis, Twin Pefects 4 and a half hour analysis is the best I've listened to, and yours is like a shorter version. You guys have the same ideas 💡
Damn this video rules. Bravo!!! The only problem I always have with the dream theories (which very may well be true) is that I always feel like it’s just a cop out. I prefer to think of the supernatural elements are truly at play here. Good vs evil. Light vs dark. These characters are in the middle of this battle. But hey that’s just the way I see it. Or rather want to see it. Lynch’s work is open to all interpretations that’s the beauty of it. Still this is a fascinating video and really does make sense from the dream perspective.
Thank you great to be back in that world I can never get enough Twin peaks.
That was fantastic. Thank you!
Thanks for the video! Great watch!
This was insanely well done. Thank you
i can watch this over and over. thank you
Literally got chills. Insanely great work 👍 ☕️
Appreciate your work!
Laura's bedroom is different when comparing Fire Walk With Me to the first episode. It's as if there is a parallel version over lapping into each other. It's likely connected through electricity and phantom lodges.
But that's just me.
Just finished to watch FWWM, Missing Pieces and first three episodes of your Twin Peaks Analysis (that I downloaded in 2019) and came here to check your channel... Let's talk about Judy now ;) Thank you 👍
Another great video, Jeremiah. 👍
thanks man!
The concept of Twin Peaks being a dream of Cooper's makes sense when expanded upon sure,
But I think even just the fact that Mark Frost is the co creator of Twin Peaks, rather than it being a sole creation of Lynch is reason to discard this theory.
If it was just Lynch, I'd be more open to the idea, but knowing that Frost is the one who was big into the expanding lore of the show in a sci fi/fantasy type sense makes me feel this is more the type of show it is.
I love Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (and Eraserhead too)
for their dream concepts but I feel like Twin Peaks is just its own thing.
It can be an effective story without it needing to be all a dream too
all good points
I agree. I enjpyed this video a lot, but I don't like to think of all of Twin Peaks - which to me includes Frost's books - as a dream.
About to rewatch the entire series and movie and I am soaking up as much TP content as possible beforehand. Lynch is the dreamer and I’m here for it. I like the idea TP is a critique on our obsession with tv violence. And all the insanity is such a treat.
Then I’m gonna play Alan wake 1 and 2 😂
nice visual parallels
wonderfully done! taking a LOT of elements and squishing them into an actual idea. but, that's always been Lynch's MO (sorry, couldn't resist). I like that he never says "this IS that" or "here and when is where this is really going on". he's been very canny about keeping specifics loose and up to interpretation. never REALLY spelling it out for you, or spoon-feeding you. he'll give you all the options but he never points one way. i truly admire that, and his idea about 'you fill it in, let yrself try to make sense of it, and you might be right, cause i SURE don't know!'. unfortunately, (or fortunately!), i doubt we'll ever truly know, and I, for one, am totally fine w/ that!!! Stan Kubrick left no real questions (mostly), Coppola the same, but, again, that's alright w/ me. take it for what it is/might be/could be/etc. it's still got that 'what just happened???' quality, no matter what! let's keep it that way and keep asking the questions, cause, let's be honest- that's the answer ;)
Amazing Work, i hope to see more in the future.
I must say though, your video is still excellently presented.
I love your content
I'm loving your vids man. So great.
It's slippery in here. The antlered creature is also a variation of Lynch's '90s comic strip character The Angriest Dog in the World we ran in an Atlanta alt weekly. Essentially the dog with antlers.
Bruuuhh You Really Figured Some Shit Out I Loved This, Genuinely Learned/Gained Some New Info, I Think You ACTUALLY Solved The Ending In A Literal Sense Anyways, Obviously There Can Be Lots Of Interpretations Symbolically But The Scenes Lining Up And The Screams? That Makes So Much Fucking Sense, A+++
you're like the Return, who uploads and then returns for a later upload.
Since that one scene with cole seeing lauras face crying in the doorway in the return i always felt like some subconcious part in his mind, knew , felt or suspected, in another plain of dream or reality he is the person who created her.
Lynch got the mob all riled up and Frost is a cool guy.
Cooper is the one trying to change the past and is messing with time. Hes the one that forces Laura into an infinite loop of reliving her life. She can't rest in peace.
The first time I saw Inland Empire i had been channel surfing in the middle of the night and came upon it after it had started maybe 20 minutes or so into it. I ended up watching the rest of it and I loved it. I remember thinking after it was over that it was the closest any film had ever come to what an actual dream is like. Also just jumping in after it had started and missing the very beginning only added to the mystery and dreamlike quality.
That was excellent! Thanks.
Nice review i like it. My Lynchian addition to ponder is:
Harry S Truman + atomic bomb = ?
Is it just writers prerogative or something else. Probably nothing but I'm surprised I've never seen anyone else raise this at least as a curiosity. I like the idea he was reincarnated as a sheriff to solve a mystery related to something he is directly responsible for unleashing upon the world.
This amazing...well done!!
David lynch just put random things based on his imagination and trolling people 😅
I love this idea. He’s just laughing at all of us with these deep takes on what it all means. And maybe that’s the point or there is no point or all the points are right. I did hear when the return was being written one of the writers asked lynch who judy was and lynch says “I have no idea” 😂😂
That writer was who came up with the Jau-day idea from an ancient Sumerian god. And came up with the idea David Bowie said jau-day in his country accent so it just sounded like judy. So as much as we wanna credit Lynch for a lot of the big ideas it’s possible lynch was just letting the crew kinda run with random ideas to see what wild takes he could foster in other people’s minds. Dudes kinda like a god at this point.
By the way, «Twin Peaks» apparently had an affair with «Breaking Bad» from which «Too Old to Die Young» was born.
great video! i hate the theory people throw around of it just "being a dream". this video takes it into so much more depth, and i much prefer it over an easy write off that none of it happened
that's what I struggled with when The Return finished too - "it's all a dream" feels like a cop out, right? but like you said, I chose to go deeper and have some fun with it and explore that angle from different characters to Lynch to us as viewers. also, I always try to remember that the Wizard of Oz is all a dream too - and it doesn't really take away from the hero's journey. so, even if it's not real, we experience it with the character as if it was real - so really, what's the difference, you know? thanks for the comment!
Did you even watched any of Lynch movies? Its all about dreams, and Twin Peaks is about dreaming, too. Just look carefully all episodes from start to finish and especially FWWM movie.
@@nikolailic431 i’ve watched them all, many times. lynch is inspired by dreams and uses dreams in his stories. this does not mean his movies are all dreams. twin peaks is not just all one long dream, and if thats your interpretation i feel sorry for you
@@thebasedgodmax1163 I know, but I didnt want to waste my time with thousand uneccesary theories. Twin Peaks is all about occulth/duality. "Twin" Peaks, Mike/Bob, good/evil, black/white lodges. Double life of Laura Palmer, and her father Leland, mirror reflection of Bob/Leland- duality, double life of almost all TP citizens just look season1&2 every single character, good/bad Dale Cooper... It is also worshipping of Owl/Bob and saturn/ring Mike. Its all about dualism, show is full of masonic and occult symbols. I know all that bcs been in world of occult and esoteric practices for years before I became a Christian, glory to Jesus my Lord. But every time when I watch TP show again from beggining to end, it definitely looking like someone's dream.
Superb! 👌🏾✨🙌🏾👏
Wow, you nailed it man!
It's yrev very good to see you again old friend.
As in the material world there are different material forces acting on the material plain for power and control it makes sense to assume that in the spiritual world also such "Dreamers" are in competition with one another.
Teamwork makes the dream work
OOOOOHH YES, have not yet seen the vid but Im so exited!
So excited for a new vid!
All this decoding of twin peaks and I’m here still confused as to why Lynch lent his voice to the Cleveland show.
19:42 When you ask when and where does the sleeper awaken it brought be back to the scene in Lynch's Dune: "Father! The sleeper has awakened!"
that's why I put that line in there! 👊
Nice work. 👍
Amazing work thank you
This is amazing ❤
Great video
What is the background music
For me I think you need to take the dreamer one step further. We are the dreamer who watch the dreamer (Lynch) dream. I think it is always wise to not get caught up in plot. Plot is the red herring that Lynch likes to use to obscure the story.
Wow. This is great.
Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see, one chance out between two worlds, fire walk with me!
rewatching this for like the 10th time 8:16 theres a resident evil Umbrella symbol on one of the boxes which.. i know is really a symbol of something else but it just strikes me as odd... like maybe they took this prop from the resident evil movies.. forgot to take off the label? what is that for? am i missing something?
Excellent! I would love to see how you would differentiate The Missing Pieces and Fire Walk With Me in this schema - the same hingepoint between the two circles during two different loops? Perhaps one could interpret TMP to be 'canon' to the version of history which Cooper changes by saving Laura and in which Jeffries arrives in 1989 instead of 1988. I am interested in further analysis between these two works and their relationship to everything else bc I interpret TMP as the developmental lynchpin (heh) between the original TP productions from 1989-92 and The Return: shot as part of the original FWWM in 1992 but only edited and released in 2014, reflecting Lynch's later fragmented directorial/editing style we see in The Return, and operating on a very similar emotional level. Contrary to the belief that FWWM was "darker" than the rest of TP, when FWWM and TMP are taken together, the style and content so closely resembles the tonal and narrative variety of The Return.
🔥🔥🔥 yes! I agree 100% about TMP relating to The Return. I have some notes jotted down about it - not sure if I'll do a whole video though. but YES - the actual editing, like the long gaps in dialogue and silence/staring between Truman and Andy in TMP is just like TR. AND things like Lucy not understanding the intercom in TMP is literally the same thing as her not understanding cell phones in TR. AND YES, I'm totally onboard with TMP is the missing Jeffries link, the crossroads/intersection of where 1988 (original canon/timeline) meets 1989 (retcon/new timeline) -- great comments! (I do explore this a little bit in my Jeffries video if you haven't seen it 👍)
@@TakeTheRing Thanks for the quick reply! One example of a scene in TMP that gives me such an impression of TR is the wide shot of the Double R that lasts for a long time, intercut with Shelly going out and in, Nadine/Ed going in and out, and Norma crying in the booth. Or another: the fight between Chet and Cable (and indeed, the whole "new setting" of the Deer Meadow investigation) would fit right into any episode of TR tonally and pacing-wise. Anyway, glad to hear that you've noticed this too and have some notes on it already. Cheers!