My Uncle and Namesake was one of the Paratroopers who fought at Arnhem Bridge with Jonny Frost , his name was Bombardier Leslie Bluer and he was with the 1st Air-landing Brigade H.Q guns . He was one of the 4 Gun crews that made it to the bridge and one of the lucky ones who survived the action that took place there. Although very badly wounded and taken into captivity, if not for the kind medical attention from some of the Dutch civilians who were helping our wounded he may never have survived. So I am forever grateful to the people of Holland and the brave and courageous citizens of Arnhem for all they did for him and his fellow wounded soldiers.
Ike should have fired Montgomery after this disaster. Patton always said _"It seems Monty is more concerned with no losing a battle than he is about winning one"_
Both the plan and execution of Market Garden were compromised by American officers, so it beggars belief you think that blaming Montgomery is going to wash beyond the borders of undefeated world champions of ignorance, the USA. And the quote from Patton is crass - his nickname of 'blood and guts' comes from his troops, who complained it was "our blood, his guts". Montgomery had a reputation for being more careful with men's lives in WW2, because of his personal experiences on the WW1 battlefields. Come back to me after YOU have been shot through the right lung by a sniper and left on the field until nightfall. It also behoves you to read Eisenhower's WW1 career by contrast - Montgomery's assessment of Ike after their first meeting absolutely nailed him: "nice man, no soldier."
@@davemac1197 Get back to me cupcake when you have been in combat 3 times, shot in the right shoulder, shot in the chest where your plates saved your life but the impact still broke 4 ribs and when a 122mm Katusha lands 10 m from your hooch and you spend 2 weeks in the Army Hospital in Landstuhl German. When you can say you have done that I might listen to you. Until then you can just shut the F up. I doubt you ever served, much less saw combat.
@@davemac1197 My, my you have it all figured out, don't you? "World champions of ignorance" - so now you think you have an entire country pegged. Your own ignorance is showing. So you are the victor on that front. Where would the world be without US participation in WWII? How was the Operation compromised by American officers? A wee bit on the defensive side, aren't you? What's the matter - can't handle the truth? Montgomery did have a reputation for being cautious, but Market Garden was his plan. Patton produced more results in less time with fewer casualties than any other general in any army during World War II and the Germans considered him the best Allied General. Apparently, Eisenhower was put in charge for a reason. Montgomery may have said that about him, but Eisenhower did agree to move forward with Market Garden. A nasty, negative jerk such as yourself would probably not have made the military cut with that shitty attitude. (I did.) You don't seem to know the first thing about the meaning of the word "Allies."
Tomorrow, we have a soldier who was recently identified, coming home to be laid to rest. He was in this operation and lost his life. Such brave brave souls!
I spent a rainy autumn afternoon walking by myself through the war cemetery at Oosterbeek, next to Arnhem. I sobbed uncontrollably as I read each gravestone. Terribly sad.
@@bogan-slayer7469thank you so much for paying your respects to all those fine soldiers. It’s rare to find people being grateful for the past sacrifices so many young men made.
Monty did squat slowy moving ahead giving the gerries the time they need to refit and reinforce with an embarrassment of riches wasting time in hard terrain with winter closing in
Andrew Kawaoka Eisenhower's broad front strategy gave the Germans what they most needed in the Autumn of 1944, time and space. A thrust by half of the allied forces in the west could, and should have taken the allies into Germany in September 1944. To that end, Montgomery offered to stop his forces so long as such a decision was made. Eisenhower made no such decision, and everyone suffered. The 8,000 troop deaths you noted was actually a figure for killed, wounded and missing, (POWs and evaders) at Arnhem. The dead at Arnhem amounted to 1,500. Hope this is of help - Andrew.
*Martin van Creveld calculated in his superb study of logistics, Supplying War: Logistics From Wallenstein to Patton* Monty’s “40 divisions” realistically would have been quickly reduced to a mere 18 when all logistical and operational requirements were considered. Captured ground could not simply be left in a vacuum, but had to be occupied and defended against the inevitable German counterattacks. Supply lines had to be protected and secured, and as a force advanced, those key “sinews of war” extended longer and longer, requiring the diversion of increasing numbers of combat troops to protect them. *Moreover, because Monty failed to capture the Scheldt Estuary expeditiously and open the port of Antwerp (closed to Allied shipping until December),* Ike’s SHAEF logisticians at the time calculated that only 12 divisions could have been supported in a rapid advance. *Van Creveld weighed all the factors in the “broad front” vs. “narrow thrust” strategy debate and concluded, “In the final account, the question as to whether Montgomery’s plan presented a real alternative to Eisenhower’s strategy must be answered in the negative"* *Eisenhower actually gave Montgomery a chance to show that his narrow thrust strategy could succeed - and Monty botched it* Ike approved the September 1944 Operation Market-Garden, Monty’s attempt to “jump” the lower Rhine and position his army group to drive on to the Ruhr industrial region. Market-Garden famously and disastrously failed at the “bridge too far” at Arnhem at the same time that German forces supposedly were so depleted and disorganized that Monty’s narrow thrust, it was claimed, would easily slice right through them and capture the Ruhr. *Monty’s boast that his single axis advance would quickly win the war was both literally and figuratively “a bridge too far” at that point of the war in Europe* Pretty much says it all regardless of Vile Aston's caterwauling to the contrary
TheVillaAston Eisenhowers broad front strategy was the biggest allied mistake of 1944/45. It achieved little, cost a lot. If not for the Germans wasting all those men and tanks etc in the Ardennes then under Eisenhowers poor strategy the Rhine wouldn't have been crossed until summer 1945.
Maybe, just maybe, lack of available footage, but WOE did they put some from WINTER in American sector ? Read Kershaw's "It never snows in September" ! :D
Andrew Kawaoka Army Group Commander Montgomery was at Eindhoven, fact, as noted by General Urquhart. US General Brereton, Commander, First Allied Airborne was nowhere to be seen. Allied Land Forces commander, US General Eisenhower was in France. Montgomery fought with distinction in the First World War, he was wounded twice and was awarded the DSO, fact. Further, Montgomery performed with distinction in trying circumstances in France, when, as a single division commander, he led his troops as he closed the gap on the allied left, and led his troops to safety. Further, of all the allied Army Group commanders, Montgomery was the one that spent the most of his time with the forward troops, living and working out of three caravans. By contrast, the standard accommocation for US Army Group commanders was largest chateaux that could be found, as far back from the front as possible. Eisenhower and Bradley had zero personal experience, fact. I hope this is of help - Andrew.
The only experience Brooke and his heel hound Monty had was what?Wait until the USA arrives and demand their resouces and materiels.The very resouces and materiels those two yapping jackels left on the beach at Dunkirk during the great skedaddle.I have respect for the TOMMIES who were hamstrung by those pathetic pratts.The Briitsh High Command was a blue print on how not to wage war.Afore mentioned beach in France,Singapore 81,000 surrendered to 34,000 Japanese who were out of ammo - Percival didn't know it.Dieppe?,Tobruk? The GIs traverse an Ocean to help a supposed Ally ships loaded with food/fuel/planes/provisions/tanks/trucks/halftracks/artillary/men/materiel.not the other way around.This Methane Cloud that calls himself The Villa Ass is useless at history and simple logic, that is clear to see is a troll Monty wasn't at Market garden and he lied to both Brooke and IKE about that and the Falaise Gap.He was in fact the worst over all commander the Western Allies had.Even other British Officers knew he was a contemptable sod.He didn't show up at the after battle council either,knowing he was going to get pasted - like VA in the comment sections.You're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit British author of Military History, Max Hastings, states the following in his recent book, The SECRET WAR, Spies, Ciphers, and Guerrillas 1939 -1945; referring to Field Marshal Montgomery on page 495 “The little British field-marshal’s neglect of crystal-clear intelligence, and of an important strategic opportunity, became a major cause of the Western Allied failure to break into the heart of Germany in 1944. The same overconfidence was responsible for the launch of the doomed airborne assault in Holland on 17 September, despite Ultra’s flagging of the presence near the drop zone of the 9th and 10th SS Panzer Divisions, together with Field-Marshal Walter Model’s headquarters at Oosterbeek. Had ‘victory fever’ not blinded Allied commanders, common sense dictated that even drastically depleted SS panzers posed a mortal threat to lightly armed and mostly inexperienced British airborne units. Ultra on 14-15 September also showed the Germans alert to the danger of an airborne landing in Holland It was obvious that it would be a very hard to drive the British relief force 70 miles up a single Dutch road, with the surrounding countryside impassable for armor, unless the Germans failed to offer resistance. The decision to launch Operation Market Garden’ against this background was recklessly irresponsible, and the defeat remains a deserved blot on Montgomery’s reputation. *From Six Armies in Normandy,by John Keegan* In just 30 days, Patton finished his sweep across France and neared Germany. The Third Army had exhausted its fuel supplies and ground to a halt near the border in early September. *Allied supplies had been redirected northward for the normally cautious General Montgomery’s reckless Market Garden gambit* That proved a horrible scheme to leapfrog over the bridges of the Rhine River; it devoured Allied blood and treasure, and accomplished almost nothing in return. Meanwhile, the cutoff of Patton’s supplies would prove disastrous Scattered and fleeing German forces regrouped. Their resistance stiffened as the weather grew worse and as shortened supply lines began to favor the defense. *From Patton:A Genius for War,By Carlo D'Este* After the War General Fritz Bayerlein commander of Panzer Lehr Division and the Afrika Corp.He assessed the escape of Rommel's Panzers after AlameinI do not think General Patton would have let us get away so easilysaid Bayerlein .Comparing Patton with Guderian and Montgomery with Von Rundstedt
1:14:53 why did the 82nd wait til day 2 to make a serious attempt at the nimjengen bridge.....is one their number one priority!!! They got grave on day one...and it was the lesser of the bridges.
The failure of Operation Market Garden did not seriously affect Montgomery’s reputation. He remained the great Viscount Montgomery of Alamein who accepted Germany’s surrender in May 1945.
Where and when did the US military defeat a modern military - without help of the U.S., Canada and Australia? Any in WWII? WWI'... Well...There was Grenada.
♦️Hollywood wasn't there when 198,000 Tommies got tossed into the Channel - Monty was. ♦️Hollywood didn't make 81,000 Tommies surrender at Singapore, ♦️Hollywood didn't sign a deal with The Reich annexing the Czech Republic - Britain did. ♦️Hollywood didn't tell Britain to not cross the 30 mile channel after getting driven into it,for 4 full years after Dunkirk. ♦️Hollywood never showed up at Market Garden,neither did Monty ♦️Hollywood didn't fill ship after ship with tanks,trucks,,halftracks,men,material,munitions, planes,provisions,food,fuel for the duration of the war to prop up the crown. ♦️Hollywood didn't promise that Caen would be taken in D+1,Monty did and finally took it 43 days later. ♦️Hollywood didn't promise before Market Garden that they'd go to Berlin and didn't even make it to Arnhem,Monty did ♦️Hollywood didn't give 16 U.S.Divisions to Monty's 21st Army Group and was practically the last one to cross over the Rhine with them
Operation market garden but in roblox RP: germans in the bridge there tank glitches allied fores; jumping off a plane that is not moving u shoot but cannot kill there using boom box and chilling in real life: *;-;*
Luckily Patton's 3rd army bailed him out, Monty was almost relived of his command by Ike, because Monty wanted to do another huge troop lost plan, Monty was never able to command again
Total rubbish. Patton never bailed out Montgomery. He was too far away, and too junior. Montgomerey went on to bail out Eisenhower in the bulge and to command the crossing of the Rhine.
Patton *failed* to reach the Westwall. Patton was not advancing or being heavily engaged at the time he turned north to Bastogne when the Germans pounded through US lines in the Ardennes. Bastogne was on the very southern German flank, their focus being west. The strategic significance of the stand at Bastogne, is over exaggerated. The 18,000 did not change the course of the battle. The German's bypassed Bastogne, placing a containment force around the town. Only when Patton neared Bastogne did he engage _some_ German armour but not a great deal at all. Patton's ride to Bastogne was mainly through US held territory, with the road from Luxembourg to Bastogne having few German forces. The Fuhrer Grenadier Brigade was far from being one of the best German armoured units with about 80 tanks, 26th Volks-Grenadier having about 12 Hetzers, and the small element of Panzer Lehr (Kampfgruppe 901) left behind with a small number of operational tanks. Patton did not have to smash through full panzer divisions or Tiger battalions on his way to Bastogne. Patton's armoured forces outnumbered the Germans by at least 6 to 1. Patton faced very little German armour when he broke through to Bastogne because the vast majority of the German 5th Panzer Army had already left Bastogne in their rear moving westwards to the River Meuse. They were engaging forces under Montgomery's 21st Army Group near Dinant by the Meuse. Monty's armies halted the German advance pushing them back. On the night of the 22 December 1944, Patton ordered Combat Command B of 4th Armored Division to advance through the village of Chaumont in the night. A small number of German troops with anti tank weapons stopped the American attack who pulled back. The next day, fighter bombers strafed the village of Chaumont weakening the defenders enabling the attack to resume the next afternoon. However, a German counter attack north of Chaumont knocked out 12 Shermans with Combat Command B again retreating. It took Patton almost *THREE DAYS* just to get through the village of Chaumont. They didn't get through Chaumont village until Christmas Day. Hardly racing at breakneck speed. Patton had less than 20 km of German held ground to cover during his actual _'attack'_ towards Bastogne, with the vast majority of his move towards Bastogne through American held lines devoid of the enemy. His start line for the attack was at Vaux-les-Rosieres, 15km southwest of Bastogne and yet he still took him *five days to get through to Bastogne.* After the German attack in the Ardennes, US air force units were put under Coningham of the RAF, who gave Patton massive ground attack support and he still *stalled.* Patton's failure to concentrate his forces on a narrow front and his decision to commit two green divisions to battle without adequate reconnaissance resulted in his *stall.* Patton's Third Army was almost always where the weakest German divisions in the west where. *i)* Who did the 3rd Army engage? *ii)* Who did the 3rd Army defeat? *iii)* Patton never once faced a full strength premier Waffen SS panzer division nor a Tiger battalion. *iv)* Patton was not at any battles that mattered: E Alamein, D-Day or the main area of the Bulge. Patton rarely took any responsibility for his own failures. It was always somebody else at fault. A poor general who thought he was reincarnated, had incestual relationships and wore cowboy guns. Patton detested Hodges, did not like Bradley disobeying his and Eisenhower's orders. He also hated Montgomery. About the only person he ever liked was himself.
Shame they didn't listen to Patton. British military leadership in WW1 and WW2 was incredibly weak. I suppose that's what you get from a rigid, at the time, class structure.
Patton was an average US general, no more, after WW2 most German generals had never heard of him. A US media creation, elevating the average beyond their status. _"The Allied armies closing the pocket now needed to liaise, those held back giving way to any Allied force that could get ahead, regardless of boundaries - provided the situation was clear. On August 16, realising that his forces were not able to get forward quickly, General Crerar attempted to do this, writing a personal letter to Patton in an attempt to establish some effective contact between their two headquarters and sort out the question of Army boundaries, only to get a very dusty and unhelpful answer. Crerar sent an officer, Major A. M. Irving, and some signal equipment to Patton’s HQ, asking for details of Patton’s intentions and inviting Patton to send an American liaison officer to the Canadian First Army HQ for the same purpose._ _Irving located but could not find Patton; he did, however, reach the First Army HQ and delivered Crerar’s letter which was duly relayed to Third Army HQ. Patton’s response is encapsulated in the message sent back by Irving to Canadian First Army; ‘Direct liaison not permitted. Liaison on Army Group level only except corps artillery. Awaiting arrival signal equipment before returning.’ Irving returned to Crerar’s HQ on August 20, with nothing achieved and while such uncooperative attitudes prevailed at the front line, it is hardly surprising that the moves of the Allied armies on Trun and Chambois remained hesitant."_ - Neillands, Robin. The Battle of Normandy 1944 Patton refused to liaise with other allied armies, exasperating a critical situation. _Patton’s corps duly surged away to the east, heading for Dreux, Chartres and Orléans respectively. None of these places lay in the path of the German retreat from Normandy: only Dreux is close to the Seine, Chartres is on the Beauce plain, south-east of Paris, and Orléans is on the river Loire. It appears that Patton had given up any attempt to head off the German retreat to the Seine and gone off across territory empty of enemy, gaining ground rapidly and capturing a quantity of newspaper headlines. This would be another whirlwind Patton advance - against negligible opposition - but while Patton disappeared towards the east the Canadians were still heavily engaged in the new battle for Falaise which had begun on August 14 and was making good progress."_ - Neillands, Robin. The Battle of Normandy 1944 Instead of moving east to cut retreating Germans at the Seine, Patton ran off to Paris. John Ellis in _Brute Force_ described Patton's dash across northern France as well as his earlier _“much overrated”_ pursuit through Sicily as more of _“a triumphal procession than an actual military offensive.”_ In Normandy, the panzer divisions had been largely worn down, primarily by the British and Canadians around Caen. The First US Army around St Lo then Mortain helped a little. *Over 90% of German armour was destroyed by the British.* Once again, Patton who came in late in Normandy, faced very little opposition in his break out in Operation Cobra performing mainly an infantry role. Nor did Patton advance any quicker across eastern France mainly devoid of German troops, than the British and Canadians did, who were in Brussels by early September seizing the vital port of Antwerp intact. This eastern dash devoid of German forces was the ride the US media claimed Patton was some sort of master of fast moving armour. *Patton at Metz advanced 10 miles in three months.* The poorly devised Panzer Brigade concept was deployed in The Lorraine with green German troops. The Panzer Brigades were a rushed concept attempting to plug the gaps while the proper panzer divisions were re-fitting and rebuilt after the Normandy battles. The Panzer Brigades had green crews with little time to train, unfamiliar with their tanks, had no recon elements only meeting their unit commander on his arrival at the front. These were not elite forces. The 17th SS were not amongst the premier Waffen SS panzer divisions. It was not even a panzer division but a panzer grenadier division, equipped only with assault guns not tanks, with only a quarter of the number of AFVs as a panzer division. The 17th SS was badly mauled in Normandy being below strength at Arracourt in The Lorraine. In The Lorraine, the Third Army faced a rabble full of eyes and ears units. Even the German commander of Army Group G in The Lorraine, Hermann Balck, who took command in September 1944 said: _"I have never been in command of such irregularly_ _assembled and ill-equipped troops. The fact that_ _we have been able to straighten out the situation_ _again…can only be attributed to_ *_the bad and hesitating_* *_command of the Americans."_* Patton *failed* to reach the Westwall. Patton was not advancing or being heavily engaged at the time he turned north to Bastogne when the Germans pounded through US lines in the Ardennes. Bastogne was on the very southern German flank, their focus being west. The strategic significance of the stand at Bastogne, is over exaggerated. The 18,000 did not change the course of the battle. The German's bypassed Bastogne, placing a containment force around the town. Only when Patton neared Bastogne did he engage _some_ German armour but not a great deal at all. Patton's ride to Bastogne was mainly through US held territory, with the road from Luxembourg to Bastogne having few German forces. The Fuhrer Grenadier Brigade was far from being one of the best German armoured units with about 80 tanks, 26th Volks-Grenadier having about 12 Hetzers, and the small element of Panzer Lehr (Kampfgruppe 901) left behind with a small number of operational tanks. Patton did not have to smash through full panzer divisions or Tiger battalions on his way to Bastogne. Patton's armoured forces outnumbered the Germans by at least 6 to 1. Patton faced very little German armour when he broke through to Bastogne because the vast majority of the German 5th Panzer Army had already left Bastogne in their rear moving westwards to the River Meuse. They were being stopped by forces under Montgomery's 21st Army Group near Dinant by the Meuse. Monty's armies halted the German advance pushing them back. ▪️Start line for Patton's attack was at Vaux-les-Rosieres, *15km* southwest of Bastogne; ▪️It took him *five days* to get through to Bastogne; ▪️On the night of the 22 December 1944, Patton ordered Combat Command B of 4th Armored Division to advance through the village of Chaumont in the night; ▪️A small number of German troops with anti tank weapons stopped the American attack who pulled back; ▪️The next day, allied fighter bombers strafed the village of Chaumont weakening the defenders; ▪️ The attack to resume the next afternoon; ▪️A German counter attack north of Chaumont knocked out 12 Shermans with Combat Command B again retreating; ▪️It took Patton almost *THREE DAYS* just to get through the village of Chaumont; ▪️They didn't get through Chaumont village until Christmas Day. Hardly racing at breakneck speed. Patton had less than 20 km of German held ground to cover during his actual _'attack'_ towards Bastogne, with the vast majority of his move towards Bastogne through American held lines devoid of the enemy. After the German attack in the Ardennes, US air force units were put under Coningham of the RAF, who gave Patton massive ground attack support and he still *stalled.* Patton's failure to concentrate his forces on a narrow front and his decision to commit two green divisions to battle without adequate reconnaissance resulted in his *stall.* US historian Roger Cirillo said, _"Patton launched attack, after attack, after attack, after attack, that failed. Because he never waited to concentrate"._ The 18,000 men in Bastogne pretty well walked out, even the commander of the US 101st stated that. The Germans had vacated the area heading west. Decades later, Eisenhower recalled how Patton would telephone with frustrating progress reports, saying: _“General, I apologize for my slowness. This snow is God-awful. I’m sorry.”_ Patton's Third Army was almost always where the weakest German divisions in the west where. ▪️Who did the 3rd Army engage? ▪️Who did the 3rd Army defeat? ▪️Patton never once faced a full strength premier Waffen SS panzer division nor a Tiger battalion. ▪️Patton was not at E Alamein, D-Day or the main area of the Bulge. Patton repeatedly denigrated his subordinates: ▪️In Sicily he castigated Omar Bradley for the tactics Bradley's II Corps were employing; ▪️He accused the commander of 3rd Infantry Division, Truscott of being _"afraid to fight";_ ▪️In the Ardennes he castigated Middleton of the US VIII Corps and Millikin of the US III Corps; ▪️When his advance from Bastogne to Houffalize stalled, he criticised the 11th Armoured Division for being _"very green and taking unnecessary casualties to no effect";_ ▪️He called the 17th Airborne Division _"hysterical"_ in reporting their losses; Patton rarely took any responsibility for his own failures. It was always somebody else at fault. A poor general who thought he was reincarnated, had incestual relationships and wore cowboy guns. Patton detested Hodges, did not like Bradley disobeying his and Eisenhower's orders. He also hated Montgomery. About the only person he ever liked was himself. Read: _Monty and Patton: Two Paths to Victory_ by Michael Reynolds and_Fighting Patton: George S. Patton Jr. Through the Eyes of His Enemies_ by Harry Yeide
@@thevillaaston7811 Won the war for the allies, largely by pushing the incompetent Brits to the sideline after Market Garden. The Brits gave us Singapore, Market Garden, and the incredible waste of time known as the "Soft Underbelly of Europe".
@@dancahill9585 The war was won in skies over Britain in 1940, and in Russia in 1941. By the time that the USA finally joined the war, it time for tea and medals.
@@thevillaaston7811 lol. The Brits were irrelevant to the European theater and to the Asian theater. If the Brits lost the Battle of Britain, the Germans and Japs still would have lost. Russia still takes out the Germans with American lend lease, and the Japanese lose to American troops.
Ok, the timeline and movements of both sides seem fairly accurate, as well as the plans, strengths, weaknesses, response, weapons employed, and the outcome overall on both sides. However, the newsreel and film additions are horrible and distracting when considering the topic. Authentic footage from the invasion of France and Poland, Russia, Normandy, the breakout from the Bocage, and the Bulge...even a clip of an American tank crewman gravely injured after a tank duel in the city of Cologne (Koln), Germany...not so much from the actual area of operation...the Netherlands. I do appreciate the clips but I hate fillers. This is a History Channel pizza time account of Operation Market Garden. It does not address the true desperation of the battle. Too bad. It is more of a display of 10 years of WW2 film footage without any thought as to its accuracy when they are cast upon the battle for the bridges. Shabbily done... "An AMARDA Of The Air"? WTF is an Amarda? Poorly done and a waste of time. Read September Snow instead.
Why was it deemed a failure, by the Allies, when XXX Corps was just 1 mile from Arnhem? Yes, 2nd Para capitulated, but the Brits could have just pushed on and captured Arnhem. No infantry? There was an entire US Airborne division at their disposal. And couldn't that salient created into Holland be used as a jumping off point into the Ruhr Valley as envisaged by Monty?
Arnhem is 12 miles from Nijmegen,. By XXX Corps, do you mean the troop of three ranks which crossed the bridge in semi-darkness on the evening of 20 September? By 'entire US Airborne Division', do you mean the battered remnants of a single battalion which had been more or less contantly in action since they landed, and had just lost around 200 men crossing the Waal? Is any of that not accurate?
Yes, I do mean that. As I understand it, the Germans hadn’t as yet committed more forces in that area. Why not reinforce that salient? Strengthen it. And either exploit the breech, or draw German resources there, while Patton and Devers take advantage of the diversion and advance in their own sectors.? And based on this video, the Allies were 1 mile from Arnhem went they stopped.
@@aaropajari7058 More like Bradley hived off supplies from Hodges to Patton, preventing a division of the US First Army participating in Market Garden. Few people are aware that there were supporting units on either flank who set off to the left and right of XXX Corps. One of these supporting flanks pushed the Germans away from cutting the highway near Eindhoven on the 20th after XXX Corps had gone through ahead. They even widened the axis of advance with their follow on actions. Promised supplies from SHAEF failed to arrive, leaving VIII Corps, who were supposed to attack alongside XXX Corps, mostly stranded in place. Montgomery had also had been promised a division from Hodges First US Army as a flanking advance. Bradley was stealing fuel and other resources from Hodges giving them to Patton. Garden launched with only half the troops it should have had.
The allies underestimated the strength of German forces. Articles written from the German point of view indicated why the allies did not retreat sooner. Sorry for the losses.
No. No armour at Arnhem. Germans given a two day window in which to pour in troops because two US para units *failed* to seize their bridges causing delays.
@@bigwoody4704 Rambo, a quiz. Name the two US generals of the 82nd and 101st that *failed* to seize their bridges in Operation Market Garden? 10 points for each general named.
Burns I haven't administered a good pounding to you for a while.Have they given you some tasks over there at the center to keep you busy?You can't keep sitting on your ample backside and pounding out your Monty novels like you do.Every now and then your 3 chins hit the keyboard and a garbled post like the one above are produced
@@johnburns4017 Gavin didn't. Also Browning, but he was a Brit. Some bridges weren't seized (by, e.g., Horrocks[Brit] b/c they were blown up.) Woody is a moron.
The Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine and Ardennes were far bigger "disasters", yet Patton, Hodges, Bradley and Eisenhower got off scott free for being responsible for 200, 0000 needless casualties.
@@swagman673 Total rubbish. Nobody listened to the Dutch resistance at that time due to the German 'Englandspiel' penetration of the Dutch Underground.
Nope, he failed to take the Schelde estuary (island of Walcheren) making the taking of Antwerpen useless. Market Garden had to be supplied and resupplied from Cherbourg Normandy over 600 kilometers / 375 miles away
Patton was also an egotist. Actually both generals admired each other very much. Patton was a great general with strong convictions. It was a tragedy the way he died. He was the only allied leader who publicly warned about the Russians and he was proved right. Montgomery was a much more cautious general who did his best to ensure as little casualties as possible. I'm sure had either general commanded XXX Corps on the ground the outcome would have been different, especially Patton. Although with Patton there would be much more deaths due to his cut and thrust nature.
Stop Apologising Market Garden didnt fail on the ground. It failed when the airborne troops failed to take their primary bridges and this was because of the decisions made by Brereton, Williams and Hollinghurst.
@Mark Mullin The finest army in the world from mid 1942 onwards was the British under Montgomery. From Alem el Halfa it moved right up into Denmark, through nine countries, and not once suffered a reverse taking all in its path. Over 90% of German armour in the west was destroyed by the British. Montgomery, in command of all ground forces, had to give the US armies an infantry role in Normandy as they were not equipped to engage massed German SS armour. *Montgomery* stopped the Germans in every event they attacked him: *** August 1942 - Alem el Halfa; October 1942 - El Alamein; *** March 1943 - Medenine; *** June 1944 - Normandy; *** Sept/Oct 1944 - The Netherlands; *** December 1944 - Battle of the Bulge; *A list of Montgomery’s victories in WW2:* *** Battle of Alam Halfa; *** Second Battle of El Alamein; *** Battle of El Agheila; *** Battle of Medenine; *** Battle of the Mareth Line; *** Battle of Wadi Akarit; *** Allied invasion of Sicily; *** Operation Overlord - the largest amphibious invasion in history; *** Market Garden - a 60 mile salient rammed into German territory, splitting the German armies; *** Battle of the Bulge - while taking control of two shambolic US armies; *** Operation Veritable; *** Operation Plunder. *Montgomery not once had a reverse.* *Not on one occasion were ground armies, British, US or others, under Monty's command pushed back into a retreat by the Germans.* Monty's 8th Army advanced the fastest of any army in WW2. From El Alamein to El Agheila from the 4th to 23rd November 1942, 1,300 km in just 17 days. After fighting a major exhausting battle at El Alemein through half a million mines. This was an Incredible feat, unparalleled in WW2. With El Alamein costing just 13,500 casualties. The US Army were a shambles in 1944/45 retreating in the Ardennes. The Americans didn't perform well at all east of Aachen, then the Hurtgen Forest defeat with 33,000 casualties and Patton's Lorraine crawl of 10 miles in three months at Metz with over 50,000 casualties, with the Lorraine campaign being a failure. Then Montgomery had to be put in command of the shambolic US First and Ninth armies, aided by the British 21st Army Group, just to get back to the start line in the Ardennes, with nearly 100,000 US casualties. Hodges, head of the US First army, fled from Spa to near Liege on the 18th, despite the Germans never getting anywhere near to Spa. Hodges did not even wait for the Germans to approach Spa. He had already fled long before the Germans were stopped. The Germans took 20,000 US POWs in the Battle of The Bulge in Dec 1944. No other allied country had that many prisoners taken in the 1944-45 timeframe. The USA retreat at the Bulge, again, was the only allied army to be pushed back into a retreat in the 1944-45 timeframe. Montgomery was effectively in charge of the Bulge having to take control of the US First and Ninth armies. Coningham of the RAF was put in command of USAAF elements. The US Third Army constantly stalled after coming up from the south. The Ninth stayed under Monty's control until the end of the war just about. The US armies were losing men at unsustainable rates due to poor generalship. Normandy was planned and commanded by the British, with Montgomery involved in planning, with also Montgomery leading *all* ground forces, which was a great success coming in ahead of schedule and with less casualties than predicted. The Royal Navy was in command of all naval forces and the RAF all air forces. The German armour in the west was wiped out by primarily the British - the US forces were impotent against massed panzers. Monty assessed the US armies (he was in charge of them) giving them a supporting infantry role, as they were just not equipped, or experienced, to fight concentrated tank v tank battles. On 3 Sept 1944 when Eisenhower took over overall allied command of ground forces everything went at a snail's pace. The fastest advance of any western army in Autumn/early 1945 was the 60 mile thrust by the British XXX Corps to the Rhine at Arnhem. *You need to give respect where it is due.*
The British 1st Airborne made it to Arnhem bridge, taking the north end of the bridge, denying its use to the Germans. The other two airborne units, both US, *failed* to seize their assigned bridges immediately. If they had XXX Corps would have been in Arnhem on d-day+1, before any armour came in from Germany. Game set and match. The Germans would not have known what had hit them. The *12 hour delay* caused by the 101st not seizing the Zon bridge, meant the Germans for 12 hours had a critical *_time window_* to pour in troops and get armour moving towards Arnhem. The *36 hour delay,* on top of the 12 hour delay, caused by the 82nd not seizing their bridge at Nijmegen (XXX Corps had to take it for them), meant another longer time window for the Germans to keep up the reinforcing. The 36 hour delay created by the 82nd, meant a bridgehead over the Rhine was precluded, as the *two day time window* given to the Germans was far too long. The British paras did their part in securing a crossing over its assigned waterway, the Rhine. The two US para units *failed* in theirs. XXX Corps hardly put a foot wrong.
@@talon1313 Charming. The British denied the Arnhem bridge to the Germans for their use. The Germans had to slowly raft men and materials over to the _island,_ and denying them to place explosive on the bridge. The paras were in control. The two US airborne units, both *failed* to seize their assigned bridges immediately. *If the US airborne units had, XXX Corps would have been in Arnhem on d-day+1,* before any armour came in from Germany. Game set and match. The Germans would not have known what had hit them. At the end of the d-day all crossings were denied to the Germans, except one - the Nijmegen bridge. The 101st *failure* to secure a crossing at Zon, was partially negated by XXX Corps by themselves, erecting a Bailey bridge.
Monty like the cowards in the Burns family were never at Monty Garden thoughly enjoyed splashing around the channel. Read the Full Monty - burns was mentioned in it
This one's barking,I love quizzes What so called Field Marshall didn't cross the 30 Mile so called Channel for 4 FULL YEARS, when it only took 16-20 days to leave? The French,Belgians,Dutch,Poles and Czechs would like to know .You're going to have to make up a whole bunch of wonderful new lies or people aren't going to want to go on reading,Johhny. The 82nd and 101st didn't end up in the Channel like Bernard.And showed up for the fight in the Netherlands unlike Bernard.Yup MONTY GARDEN,don't worry the Big Boys were more than happy to assist the Crown as it crumbled - sad to see indeed,I'm sure you'll agree
@@bigwoody4704 *BZZZZZZZZZZZT!* Wrong answer. Rambo, the name the two bridges the 82nd and 101st failed to seize in Operation Market Garden were.... 🎈🎊🍾 *Nijmegen bridge* 🎈🎊🍾 🎈🎊🍾 *Zon bridge* 🎈🎊🍾 Zero points Rambo. Zero. Better luck next time.
Serious? Guards Armoured, 101st Airborne, 82nd Airborne, and the Red Devils Ametuers? Just because one fails to reach an objective under difficult circumstances does not make one an amateur.
I did the Nijmegen march along with the Paras. They are certainly not amateurs and a very tough bunch. However the planning was a bit poor on this one.
@@stevedunn5546 Indeed. They set the whole thing up in seven days in the hope the Germans in retreat would not regroup significantly in time. Turns out even this was not early enough. But it's a shock they managed to put it together so quickly amyway. D-Day had months of planning, amd was smaller in terms of airborne units.
@@stevedunn5546 The flanking XII and VIII corp started two days late due to fuel shortage also, leaving XXX corp stuck out like a sore thumb. Despite promises from Eisenhower for total logistical support, Patton managed to acquire a great deal meant for Montgomery, and a great many deaths resulted from it. Many forget Patton very negative role, at the strategic level, in the failure.
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My Uncle and Namesake was one of the Paratroopers who fought at Arnhem Bridge with Jonny Frost , his name was Bombardier Leslie Bluer and he was with the 1st Air-landing Brigade H.Q guns . He was one of the 4 Gun crews that made it to the bridge and one of the lucky ones who survived the action that took place there. Although very badly wounded and taken into captivity, if not for the kind medical attention from some of the Dutch civilians who were helping our wounded he may never have survived.
So I am forever grateful to the people of Holland and the brave and courageous citizens of Arnhem for all they did for him and his fellow wounded soldiers.
My father was 82nd Airborne - 505 PIR during Market Garden.
my respects bro
Such a brave generation never to be seen ever again. they paved the way to the country we now inherit.
Superb documentary. Very interesting to learn how the defence strategists. One of the best docs
As poorly thought out as it was poorly worded.
Never heard the Sherman and Cromwell tanks being praised so much before
Kapitalist propaganda.
The main problem is that the parachutists, and not just XXX Corps, seem to have them.
(Also see the Churchill Crocodile at 1:17:24!)
Ike should have fired Montgomery after this disaster. Patton always said _"It seems Monty is more concerned with no losing a battle than he is about winning one"_
Both the plan and execution of Market Garden were compromised by American officers, so it beggars belief you think that blaming Montgomery is going to wash beyond the borders of undefeated world champions of ignorance, the USA. And the quote from Patton is crass - his nickname of 'blood and guts' comes from his troops, who complained it was "our blood, his guts". Montgomery had a reputation for being more careful with men's lives in WW2, because of his personal experiences on the WW1 battlefields. Come back to me after YOU have been shot through the right lung by a sniper and left on the field until nightfall. It also behoves you to read Eisenhower's WW1 career by contrast - Montgomery's assessment of Ike after their first meeting absolutely nailed him: "nice man, no soldier."
@@davemac1197 Get back to me cupcake when you have been in combat 3 times, shot in the right shoulder, shot in the chest where your plates saved your life but the impact still broke 4 ribs and when a 122mm Katusha lands 10 m from your hooch and you spend 2 weeks in the Army Hospital in Landstuhl German. When you can say you have done that I might listen to you. Until then you can just shut the F up. I doubt you ever served, much less saw combat.
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Thank you for your service. God bless.
@@davemac1197 My, my you have it all figured out, don't you? "World champions of ignorance" - so now you think you have an entire country pegged. Your own ignorance is showing. So you are the victor on that front. Where would the world be without US participation in WWII? How was the Operation compromised by American officers? A wee bit on the defensive side, aren't you? What's the matter - can't handle the truth? Montgomery did have a reputation for being cautious, but Market Garden was his plan. Patton produced more results in less time with fewer casualties than any other general in any army during World War II and the Germans considered him the best Allied General. Apparently, Eisenhower was put in charge for a reason. Montgomery may have said that about him, but Eisenhower did agree to move forward with Market Garden. A nasty, negative jerk such as yourself would probably not have made the military cut with that shitty attitude. (I did.) You don't seem to know the first thing about the meaning of the word "Allies."
Tomorrow, we have a soldier who was recently identified, coming home to be laid to rest. He was in this operation and lost his life. Such brave brave souls!
I spent a rainy autumn afternoon walking by myself through the war cemetery at Oosterbeek, next to Arnhem.
I sobbed uncontrollably as I read each gravestone.
Terribly sad.
@@bogan-slayer7469thank you so much for paying your respects to all those fine soldiers. It’s rare to find people being grateful for the past sacrifices so many young men made.
excellent documentary!
The M1 was NOT an automatic rifle. It was semi auto.
8 thousand troops lost their lives under Monty plans, other generals outline plans at minimum troop lost, the price of his glory cost too many lives
Montgomery's record on casualties eas outstanding, as he showed in North Africa, Sicily, Normandy and at the Rhine.
Monty did squat slowy moving ahead giving the gerries the time they need to refit and reinforce with an embarrassment of riches wasting time in hard terrain with winter closing in
Andrew Kawaoka
Eisenhower's broad front strategy gave the Germans what they most needed in the Autumn of 1944, time and space. A thrust by half of the allied forces in the west could, and should have taken the allies into Germany in September 1944. To that end, Montgomery offered to stop his forces so long as such a decision was made. Eisenhower made no such decision, and everyone suffered.
The 8,000 troop deaths you noted was actually a figure for killed, wounded and missing, (POWs and evaders) at Arnhem. The dead at Arnhem amounted to 1,500.
Hope this is of help - Andrew.
*Martin van Creveld calculated in his superb study of logistics, Supplying War: Logistics From Wallenstein to Patton* Monty’s “40 divisions” realistically would have been quickly reduced to a mere 18 when all logistical and operational requirements were considered. Captured ground could not simply be left in a vacuum, but had to be occupied and defended against the inevitable German counterattacks. Supply lines had to be protected and secured, and as a force advanced, those key “sinews of war” extended longer and longer, requiring the diversion of increasing numbers of combat troops to protect them.
*Moreover, because Monty failed to capture the Scheldt Estuary expeditiously and open the port of Antwerp (closed to Allied shipping until December),* Ike’s SHAEF logisticians at the time calculated that only 12 divisions could have been supported in a rapid advance. *Van Creveld weighed all the factors in the “broad front” vs. “narrow thrust” strategy debate and concluded, “In the final account, the question as to whether Montgomery’s plan presented a real alternative to Eisenhower’s strategy must be answered in the negative"*
*Eisenhower actually gave Montgomery a chance to show that his narrow thrust strategy could succeed - and Monty botched it* Ike approved the September 1944 Operation Market-Garden, Monty’s attempt to “jump” the lower Rhine and position his army group to drive on to the Ruhr industrial region. Market-Garden famously and disastrously failed at the “bridge too far” at Arnhem at the same time that German forces supposedly were so depleted and disorganized that Monty’s narrow thrust, it was claimed, would easily slice right through them and capture the Ruhr. *Monty’s boast that his single axis advance would quickly win the war was both literally and figuratively “a bridge too far” at that point of the war in Europe*
Pretty much says it all regardless of Vile Aston's caterwauling to the contrary
TheVillaAston
Eisenhowers broad front strategy was the biggest allied mistake of 1944/45.
It achieved little, cost a lot.
If not for the Germans wasting all those men and tanks etc in the Ardennes then under Eisenhowers poor strategy the Rhine wouldn't have been crossed until summer 1945.
Maybe, just maybe, lack of available footage, but WOE did they put some from WINTER in American sector ? Read Kershaw's "It never snows in September" ! :D
That King Tiger from the Bulge with the troops riding on it (e.g., 1:16:26) shows up a lot, but it' not the only video that is from other battles.
Showmanship cost too many lives!
'Showmanship cost too many lives!'
When did that happen?
You're right VA Monty never showed
Andrew Kawaoka
Army Group Commander Montgomery was at Eindhoven, fact, as noted by General Urquhart. US General Brereton, Commander, First Allied Airborne was nowhere to be seen. Allied Land Forces commander, US General Eisenhower was in France.
Montgomery fought with distinction in the First World War, he was wounded twice and was awarded the DSO, fact. Further, Montgomery performed with distinction in trying circumstances in France, when, as a single division commander, he led his troops as he closed the gap on the allied left, and led his troops to safety. Further, of all the allied Army Group commanders, Montgomery was the one that spent the most of his time with the forward troops, living and working out of three caravans. By contrast, the standard accommocation for US Army Group commanders was largest chateaux that could be found, as far back from the front as possible.
Eisenhower and Bradley had zero personal experience, fact.
I hope this is of help - Andrew.
The only experience Brooke and his heel hound Monty had was what?Wait until the USA arrives and demand their resouces and materiels.The very resouces and materiels those two yapping jackels left on the beach at Dunkirk during the great skedaddle.I have respect for the TOMMIES who were hamstrung by those pathetic pratts.The Briitsh High Command was a blue print on how not to wage war.Afore mentioned beach in France,Singapore 81,000 surrendered to 34,000 Japanese who were out of ammo - Percival didn't know it.Dieppe?,Tobruk? The GIs traverse an Ocean to help a supposed Ally ships loaded with food/fuel/planes/provisions/tanks/trucks/halftracks/artillary/men/materiel.not the other way around.This Methane Cloud that calls himself The Villa Ass is useless at history and simple logic, that is clear to see is a troll
Monty wasn't at Market garden and he lied to both Brooke and IKE about that and the Falaise Gap.He was in fact the worst over all commander the Western Allies had.Even other British Officers knew he was a contemptable sod.He didn't show up at the after battle council either,knowing he was going to get pasted - like VA in the comment sections.You're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit
British author of Military History, Max Hastings, states the following in his recent book, The SECRET WAR, Spies, Ciphers, and Guerrillas 1939 -1945; referring to Field Marshal Montgomery on page 495 “The little British field-marshal’s neglect of crystal-clear intelligence, and of an important strategic opportunity, became a major cause of the Western Allied failure to break into the heart of Germany in 1944.
The same overconfidence was responsible for the launch of the doomed airborne assault in Holland on 17 September, despite Ultra’s flagging of the presence near the drop zone of the 9th and 10th SS Panzer Divisions, together with Field-Marshal Walter Model’s headquarters at Oosterbeek. Had ‘victory fever’ not blinded Allied commanders, common sense dictated that even drastically depleted SS panzers posed a mortal threat to lightly armed and mostly inexperienced British airborne units.
Ultra on 14-15 September also showed the Germans alert to the danger of an airborne landing in Holland It was obvious that it would be a very hard to drive the British relief force 70 miles up a single Dutch road, with the surrounding countryside impassable for armor, unless the Germans failed to offer resistance. The decision to launch Operation Market Garden’ against this background was recklessly irresponsible, and the defeat remains a deserved blot on Montgomery’s reputation.
*From Six Armies in Normandy,by John Keegan* In just 30 days, Patton finished his sweep across France and neared Germany. The Third Army had exhausted its fuel supplies and ground to a halt near the border in early September. *Allied supplies had been redirected northward for the normally cautious General Montgomery’s reckless Market Garden gambit* That proved a horrible scheme to leapfrog over the bridges of the Rhine River; it devoured Allied blood and treasure, and accomplished almost nothing in return. Meanwhile, the cutoff of Patton’s supplies would prove disastrous Scattered and fleeing German forces regrouped. Their resistance stiffened as the weather grew worse and as shortened supply lines began to favor the defense.
*From Patton:A Genius for War,By Carlo D'Este* After the War General Fritz Bayerlein commander of Panzer Lehr Division and the Afrika Corp.He assessed the escape of Rommel's Panzers after AlameinI do not think General Patton would have let us get away so easilysaid Bayerlein .Comparing Patton with Guderian and Montgomery with Von Rundstedt
this isnt a tutorial for how to market garden in tf2
1:14:53 why did the 82nd wait til day 2 to make a serious attempt at the nimjengen bridge.....is one their number one priority!!! They got grave on day one...and it was the lesser of the bridges.
The failure of Operation Market Garden did not seriously affect Montgomery’s reputation. He remained the great Viscount Montgomery of Alamein who accepted Germany’s surrender in May 1945.
Where and when did the British military defeat a modern military - without help of the U.S., Canada and Australia? Any in WWII? WWI?
Where and when did the US military defeat a modern military - without help of the U.S., Canada and Australia? Any in WWII? WWI'...
Well...There was Grenada.
I was looking for operation Market Garden the full movie. Can anyone help me out?
Try Hollywood. All the heroes will be American and all the villians will be British.
♦️Hollywood wasn't there when 198,000 Tommies got tossed into the Channel - Monty was.
♦️Hollywood didn't make 81,000 Tommies surrender at Singapore,
♦️Hollywood didn't sign a deal with The Reich annexing the Czech Republic - Britain did.
♦️Hollywood didn't tell Britain to not cross the 30 mile channel after getting driven into it,for 4 full years after Dunkirk.
♦️Hollywood never showed up at Market Garden,neither did Monty
♦️Hollywood didn't fill ship after ship with tanks,trucks,,halftracks,men,material,munitions, planes,provisions,food,fuel for the duration of the war to prop up the crown.
♦️Hollywood didn't promise that Caen would be taken in D+1,Monty did and finally took it 43 days later.
♦️Hollywood didn't promise before Market Garden that they'd go to Berlin and didn't even make it to Arnhem,Monty did
♦️Hollywood didn't give 16 U.S.Divisions to Monty's 21st Army Group and was practically the last one to cross over the Rhine with them
The bridge to far try it
Operation market garden but in roblox RP: germans in the bridge there tank glitches
allied fores; jumping off a plane that is not moving
u shoot but cannot kill
there using boom box and chilling
in real life: *;-;*
Bruh lmao
Ok, Im all for kids learning history. But keep that stupid fucking roblox 12 and under shit to yourself, do not bring it to a fucking WAR doc.
One of the craft seems like a flying boat
Luckily Patton's 3rd army bailed him out, Monty was almost relived of his command by Ike, because Monty wanted to do another huge troop lost plan, Monty was never able to command again
Total rubbish.
Patton never bailed out Montgomery. He was too far away, and too junior. Montgomerey went on to bail out Eisenhower in the bulge and to command the crossing of the Rhine.
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Why do you call yourself a dummy?
@@thevillaaston7811 ROFLMAO
Patton *failed* to reach the Westwall.
Patton was not advancing or being heavily engaged at the time he turned north to Bastogne when the Germans pounded through US lines in the Ardennes. Bastogne was on the very southern German flank, their focus being west. The strategic significance of the stand at Bastogne, is over exaggerated. The 18,000 did not change the course of the battle. The German's bypassed Bastogne, placing a containment force around the town.
Only when Patton neared Bastogne did he engage _some_ German armour but not a great deal at all. Patton's ride to Bastogne was mainly through US held territory, with the road from Luxembourg to Bastogne having few German forces. The Fuhrer Grenadier Brigade was far from being one of the best German armoured units with about 80 tanks, 26th Volks-Grenadier having about 12 Hetzers, and the small element of Panzer Lehr (Kampfgruppe 901) left behind with a small number of operational tanks.
Patton did not have to smash through full panzer divisions or Tiger battalions on his way to Bastogne. Patton's armoured forces outnumbered the Germans by at least 6 to 1. Patton faced very little German armour when he broke through to Bastogne because the vast majority of the German 5th Panzer Army had already left Bastogne in their rear moving westwards to the River Meuse. They were engaging forces under Montgomery's 21st Army Group near Dinant by the Meuse. Monty's armies halted the German advance pushing them back.
On the night of the 22 December 1944, Patton ordered Combat Command B of 4th Armored Division to advance through the village of Chaumont in the night. A small number of German troops with anti tank weapons stopped the American attack who pulled back. The next day, fighter bombers strafed the village of Chaumont weakening the defenders enabling the attack to resume the next afternoon. However, a German counter attack north of Chaumont knocked out 12 Shermans with Combat Command B again retreating. It took Patton almost *THREE DAYS* just to get through the village of Chaumont. They didn't get through Chaumont village until Christmas Day. Hardly racing at breakneck speed.
Patton had less than 20 km of German held ground to cover during his actual _'attack'_ towards Bastogne, with the vast majority of his move towards Bastogne through American held lines devoid of the enemy. His start line for the attack was at Vaux-les-Rosieres, 15km southwest of Bastogne and yet he still took him *five days to get through to Bastogne.*
After the German attack in the Ardennes, US air force units were put under Coningham of the RAF, who gave Patton massive ground attack support and he still *stalled.* Patton's failure to concentrate his forces on a narrow front and his decision to commit two green divisions to battle without adequate reconnaissance resulted in his *stall.*
Patton's Third Army was almost always where the weakest German divisions in the west where.
*i)* Who did the 3rd Army engage?
*ii)* Who did the 3rd Army defeat?
*iii)* Patton never once faced a full strength premier Waffen SS panzer division nor a Tiger battalion.
*iv)* Patton was not at any battles that mattered: E Alamein, D-Day or the main area of the Bulge.
Patton rarely took any responsibility for his own failures. It was always somebody else at fault. A poor general who thought he was reincarnated, had incestual relationships and wore cowboy guns. Patton detested Hodges, did not like Bradley disobeying his and Eisenhower's orders. He also hated Montgomery. About the only person he ever liked was himself.
they where not in holland they where in the netherlands . get it right people .
Holland is inside the Netherlands
Shame they didn't listen to Patton. British military leadership in WW1 and WW2 was incredibly weak. I suppose that's what you get from a rigid, at the time, class structure.
Patton was an average US general, no more, after WW2 most German generals had never heard of him. A US media creation, elevating the average beyond their status.
_"The Allied armies closing the pocket now needed to liaise, those held back giving way to any Allied force that could get ahead, regardless of boundaries - provided the situation was clear. On August 16, realising that his forces were not able to get forward quickly, General Crerar attempted to do this, writing a personal letter to Patton in an attempt to establish some effective contact between their two headquarters and sort out the question of Army boundaries, only to get a very dusty and unhelpful answer. Crerar sent an officer, Major A. M. Irving, and some signal equipment to Patton’s HQ, asking for details of Patton’s intentions and inviting Patton to send an American liaison officer to the Canadian First Army HQ for the same purpose._ _Irving located but could not find Patton; he did, however, reach the First Army HQ and delivered Crerar’s letter which was duly relayed to Third Army HQ. Patton’s response is encapsulated in the message sent back by Irving to Canadian First Army; ‘Direct liaison not permitted. Liaison on Army Group level only except corps artillery. Awaiting arrival signal equipment before returning.’ Irving returned to Crerar’s HQ on August 20, with nothing achieved and while such uncooperative attitudes prevailed at the front line, it is hardly surprising that the moves of the Allied armies on Trun and Chambois remained hesitant."_
- Neillands, Robin. The Battle of Normandy 1944
Patton refused to liaise with other allied armies, exasperating a critical situation.
_Patton’s corps duly surged away to the east, heading for Dreux, Chartres and Orléans respectively. None of these places lay in the path of the German retreat from Normandy: only Dreux is close to the Seine, Chartres is on the Beauce plain, south-east of Paris, and Orléans is on the river Loire. It appears that Patton had given up any attempt to head off the German retreat to the Seine and gone off across territory empty of enemy, gaining ground rapidly and capturing a quantity of newspaper headlines. This would be another whirlwind Patton advance - against negligible opposition - but while Patton disappeared towards the east the Canadians were still heavily engaged in the new battle for Falaise which had begun on August 14 and was making good progress."_
- Neillands, Robin. The Battle of Normandy 1944
Instead of moving east to cut retreating Germans at the Seine, Patton ran off to Paris. John Ellis in _Brute Force_ described Patton's dash across northern France as well as his earlier _“much overrated”_ pursuit through Sicily as more of _“a triumphal procession than an actual military offensive.”_
In Normandy, the panzer divisions had been largely worn down, primarily by the British and Canadians around Caen. The First US Army around St Lo then Mortain helped a little. *Over 90% of German armour was destroyed by the British.* Once again, Patton who came in late in Normandy, faced very little opposition in his break out in Operation Cobra performing mainly an infantry role. Nor did Patton advance any quicker across eastern France mainly devoid of German troops, than the British and Canadians did, who were in Brussels by early September seizing the vital port of Antwerp intact. This eastern dash devoid of German forces was the ride the US media claimed Patton was some sort of master of fast moving armour.
*Patton at Metz advanced 10 miles in three months.* The poorly devised Panzer Brigade concept was deployed in The Lorraine with green German troops. The Panzer Brigades were a rushed concept attempting to plug the gaps while the proper panzer divisions were re-fitting and rebuilt after the Normandy battles. The Panzer Brigades had green crews with little time to train, unfamiliar with their tanks, had no recon elements only meeting their unit commander on his arrival at the front. These were not elite forces. The 17th SS were not amongst the premier Waffen SS panzer divisions. It was not even a panzer division but a panzer grenadier division, equipped only with assault guns not tanks, with only a quarter of the number of AFVs as a panzer division. The 17th SS was badly mauled in Normandy being below strength at Arracourt in The Lorraine.
In The Lorraine, the Third Army faced a rabble full of eyes and ears units. Even the German commander of Army Group G in The Lorraine, Hermann Balck, who took command in September 1944 said: _"I have never been in command of such irregularly_ _assembled and ill-equipped troops. The fact that_ _we have been able to straighten out the situation_ _again…can only be attributed to_ *_the bad and hesitating_* *_command of the Americans."_*
Patton *failed* to reach the Westwall.
Patton was not advancing or being heavily engaged at the time he turned north to Bastogne when the Germans pounded through US lines in the Ardennes. Bastogne was on the very southern German flank, their focus being west. The strategic significance of the stand at Bastogne, is over exaggerated. The 18,000 did not change the course of the battle. The German's bypassed Bastogne, placing a containment force around the town. Only when Patton neared Bastogne did he engage _some_ German armour but not a great deal at all. Patton's ride to Bastogne was mainly through US held territory, with the road from Luxembourg to Bastogne having few German forces. The Fuhrer Grenadier Brigade was far from being one of the best German armoured units with about 80 tanks, 26th Volks-Grenadier having about 12 Hetzers, and the small element of Panzer Lehr (Kampfgruppe 901) left behind with a small number of operational tanks. Patton did not have to smash through full panzer divisions or Tiger battalions on his way to Bastogne.
Patton's armoured forces outnumbered the Germans by at least 6 to 1. Patton faced very little German armour when he broke through to Bastogne because the vast majority of the German 5th Panzer Army had already left Bastogne in their rear moving westwards to the River Meuse. They were being stopped by forces under Montgomery's 21st Army Group near Dinant by the Meuse. Monty's armies halted the German advance pushing them back.
▪️Start line for Patton's attack was at Vaux-les-Rosieres, *15km* southwest of Bastogne;
▪️It took him *five days* to get through to Bastogne;
▪️On the night of the 22 December 1944, Patton ordered Combat Command B of 4th Armored Division to advance through the village of Chaumont in the night;
▪️A small number of German troops with anti tank weapons stopped the American attack who pulled back;
▪️The next day, allied fighter bombers strafed the village of Chaumont weakening the defenders;
▪️ The attack to resume the next afternoon;
▪️A German counter attack north of Chaumont knocked out 12 Shermans with Combat Command B again retreating;
▪️It took Patton almost *THREE DAYS* just to get through the village of Chaumont;
▪️They didn't get through Chaumont village until Christmas Day.
Hardly racing at breakneck speed.
Patton had less than 20 km of German held ground to cover during his actual _'attack'_ towards Bastogne, with the vast majority of his move towards Bastogne through American held lines devoid of the enemy. After the German attack in the Ardennes, US air force units were put under Coningham of the RAF, who gave Patton massive ground attack support and he still *stalled.* Patton's failure to concentrate his forces on a narrow front and his decision to commit two green divisions to battle without adequate reconnaissance resulted in his *stall.* US historian Roger Cirillo said, _"Patton launched attack, after attack, after attack, after attack, that failed. Because he never waited to concentrate"._
The 18,000 men in Bastogne pretty well walked out, even the commander of the US 101st stated that. The Germans had vacated the area heading west. Decades later, Eisenhower recalled how Patton would telephone with frustrating progress reports, saying: _“General, I apologize for my slowness. This snow is God-awful. I’m sorry.”_
Patton's Third Army was almost always where the weakest German divisions in the west where.
▪️Who did the 3rd Army engage?
▪️Who did the 3rd Army defeat?
▪️Patton never once faced a full strength premier Waffen SS panzer division nor a Tiger battalion.
▪️Patton was not at E Alamein, D-Day or the main area of the Bulge.
Patton repeatedly denigrated his subordinates:
▪️In Sicily he castigated Omar Bradley for the tactics Bradley's II Corps were employing;
▪️He accused the commander of 3rd Infantry Division, Truscott of being _"afraid to fight";_
▪️In the Ardennes he castigated Middleton of the US VIII Corps and Millikin of the US III Corps;
▪️When his advance from Bastogne to Houffalize stalled, he criticised the 11th Armoured Division for being _"very green and taking unnecessary casualties to no effect";_
▪️He called the 17th Airborne Division _"hysterical"_ in reporting their losses;
Patton rarely took any responsibility for his own failures. It was always somebody else at fault. A poor general who thought he was reincarnated, had incestual relationships and wore cowboy guns. Patton detested Hodges, did not like Bradley disobeying his and Eisenhower's orders. He also hated Montgomery. About the only person he ever liked was himself.
Read:
_Monty and Patton: Two Paths to Victory_ by Michael Reynolds and_Fighting Patton: George S. Patton Jr. Through the Eyes of His Enemies_ by Harry Yeide
Dan Cahill
'British military leadership in WW1 and WW2'
And the American military leadership'did what?..
@@thevillaaston7811 Won the war for the allies, largely by pushing the incompetent Brits to the sideline after Market Garden. The Brits gave us Singapore, Market Garden, and the incredible waste of time known as the "Soft Underbelly of Europe".
@@dancahill9585
The war was won in skies over Britain in 1940, and in Russia in 1941.
By the time that the USA finally joined the war, it time for tea and medals.
@@thevillaaston7811 lol. The Brits were irrelevant to the European theater and to the Asian theater. If the Brits lost the Battle of Britain, the Germans and Japs still would have lost. Russia still takes out the Germans with American lend lease, and the Japanese lose to American troops.
Ok, the timeline and movements of both sides seem fairly accurate, as well as the plans, strengths, weaknesses, response, weapons employed, and the outcome overall on both sides. However, the newsreel and film additions are horrible and distracting when considering the topic. Authentic footage from the invasion of France and Poland, Russia, Normandy, the breakout from the Bocage, and the Bulge...even a clip of an American tank crewman gravely injured after a tank duel in the city of Cologne (Koln), Germany...not so much from the actual area of operation...the Netherlands. I do appreciate the clips but I hate fillers. This is a History Channel pizza time account of Operation Market Garden. It does not address the true desperation of the battle. Too bad. It is more of a display of 10 years of WW2 film footage without any thought as to its accuracy when they are cast upon the battle for the bridges. Shabbily done... "An AMARDA Of The Air"? WTF is an Amarda? Poorly done and a waste of time. Read September Snow instead.
49:22 "An Amarda of the Air" - Armada.
Why was it deemed a failure, by the Allies, when XXX Corps was just 1 mile from Arnhem? Yes, 2nd Para capitulated, but the Brits could have just pushed on and captured Arnhem. No infantry? There was an entire US Airborne division at their disposal. And couldn't that salient created into Holland be used as a jumping off point into the Ruhr Valley as envisaged by Monty?
Arnhem is 12 miles from Nijmegen,.
By XXX Corps, do you mean the troop of three ranks which crossed the bridge in semi-darkness on the evening of 20 September?
By 'entire US Airborne Division', do you mean the battered remnants of a single battalion which had been more or less contantly in action since they landed, and had just lost around 200 men crossing the Waal?
Is any of that not accurate?
Yes, I do mean that. As I understand it, the Germans hadn’t as yet committed more forces in that area.
Why not reinforce that salient? Strengthen it. And either exploit the breech, or draw German resources there, while Patton and Devers take advantage of the diversion and advance in their own sectors.?
And based on this video, the Allies were 1 mile from Arnhem went they stopped.
Das Ende der ersten britischen Luftlandedivision bei Arnheim
A Bridge Too Far! Watch the movie.
Why, when hardly anything of it is actually historical? Hollywood is how you get your “history?” SMH
The alternative to market garden may cost a bigger price
Not if they had listen to Patton
@@swagman673
Why, what did Patton know?
@@swagman673 Patton hoarded Montgomerys supplies preventing the flanking VIII amd XII corp from assisting properly.
moron HQ stopped Patton's advance to assist monty and his putzing - pick up a history book
@@aaropajari7058
More like Bradley hived off supplies from Hodges to Patton, preventing a division of the US First Army participating in Market Garden.
Few people are aware that there were supporting units on either flank who set off to the left and right of XXX Corps. One of these supporting flanks pushed the Germans away from cutting the highway near Eindhoven on the 20th after XXX Corps had gone through ahead. They even widened the axis of advance with their follow on actions.
Promised supplies from SHAEF failed to arrive, leaving VIII Corps, who were supposed to attack alongside XXX Corps, mostly stranded in place.
Montgomery had also had been promised a division from Hodges First US Army as a flanking advance. Bradley was stealing fuel and other resources from Hodges giving them to Patton.
Garden launched with only half the troops it should have had.
The allies underestimated the strength of German forces. Articles written from the German point of view indicated why the allies did not retreat sooner. Sorry for the losses.
No. No armour at Arnhem. Germans given a two day window in which to pour in troops because two US para units *failed* to seize their bridges causing delays.
The coward burns hides behind her keyboard as any of her relatives hid as the 82nd & 1st Para fought on
@@bigwoody4704
Rambo, a quiz.
Name the two US generals of the 82nd and 101st that *failed* to seize their bridges in Operation Market Garden?
10 points for each general named.
Burns I haven't administered a good pounding to you for a while.Have they given you some tasks over there at the center to keep you busy?You can't keep sitting on your ample backside and pounding out your Monty novels like you do.Every now and then your 3 chins hit the keyboard and a garbled post like the one above are produced
@@johnburns4017 Gavin didn't. Also Browning, but he was a Brit. Some bridges weren't seized (by, e.g., Horrocks[Brit] b/c they were blown up.)
Woody is a moron.
I just saw my uncle
THE GOOD GUYS WON!
The Allies won most of Market Garden. The Germans only won at Arnhem. The Germans lost at Nijmegen, Eindhoven and elsewhere.
@@lyndoncmp5751 too bad
Typical English documentary of the subject, full of "What If's" and justifications and praise for Monty to defuse the scope of the disaster.
So how big was this 'disaster'?
The Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine and Ardennes were far bigger "disasters", yet Patton, Hodges, Bradley and Eisenhower got off scott free for being responsible for 200, 0000 needless casualties.
Empire total war.
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why COD din't not put market garden as game
lmao
Mijn opa is dood gegaan door een bom in Nederland.
In spanish please
Montgomery was overrated and market garden was terribly flawed he could never be in the same league as General Patton
And he was to stubborn not to listen to the Dutch resistance
What did Patton ever do?
@@swagman673
Total rubbish. Nobody listened to the Dutch resistance at that time due to the German 'Englandspiel' penetration of the Dutch Underground.
@@thevillaaston7811 do you really know what the englandspiel was al about?
@@swagman673
I think so. Why do you ask?
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The only failure of a career ...what a big one !!
Big? Compared to what?
Nope, he failed to take the Schelde estuary (island of Walcheren) making the taking of Antwerpen useless. Market Garden had to be supplied and resupplied from Cherbourg Normandy over 600 kilometers / 375 miles away
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Montgomery was a idiotic " showboater"
He cared too much about his own ego, than worry about the objective!
Patton was a much better general.
Patton was also an egotist. Actually both generals admired each other very much. Patton was a great general with strong convictions. It was a tragedy the way he died. He was the only allied leader who publicly warned about the Russians and he was proved right. Montgomery was a much more cautious general who did his best to ensure as little casualties as possible. I'm sure had either general commanded XXX Corps on the ground the outcome would have been different, especially Patton. Although with Patton there would be much more deaths due to his cut and thrust nature.
Mark Mullin
Learn some history.
Stop Apologising
Market Garden didnt fail on the ground. It failed when the airborne troops failed to take their primary bridges and this was because of the decisions made by Brereton, Williams and Hollinghurst.
@@thevillaaston7811
I have,! But don't believe you ever did,dullard.
@Mark Mullin
The finest army in the world from mid 1942 onwards was the British under Montgomery. From Alem el Halfa it moved right up into Denmark, through nine countries, and not once suffered a reverse taking all in its path. Over 90% of German armour in the west was destroyed by the British. Montgomery, in command of all ground forces, had to give the US armies an infantry role in Normandy as they were not equipped to engage massed German SS armour.
*Montgomery* stopped the Germans in every event they attacked him:
*** August 1942 - Alem el Halfa; October 1942 - El Alamein;
*** March 1943 - Medenine;
*** June 1944 - Normandy;
*** Sept/Oct 1944 - The Netherlands;
*** December 1944 - Battle of the Bulge;
*A list of Montgomery’s victories in WW2:*
*** Battle of Alam Halfa;
*** Second Battle of El Alamein;
*** Battle of El Agheila;
*** Battle of Medenine;
*** Battle of the Mareth Line;
*** Battle of Wadi Akarit;
*** Allied invasion of Sicily;
*** Operation Overlord - the largest amphibious invasion in history;
*** Market Garden - a 60 mile salient rammed into German territory, splitting the German armies;
*** Battle of the Bulge - while taking control of two shambolic US armies;
*** Operation Veritable;
*** Operation Plunder.
*Montgomery not once had a reverse.*
*Not on one occasion were ground armies, British, US or others, under Monty's command pushed back into a retreat by the Germans.* Monty's 8th Army advanced the fastest of any army in WW2. From El Alamein to El Agheila from the 4th to 23rd November 1942, 1,300 km in just 17 days. After fighting a major exhausting battle at El Alemein through half a million mines. This was an Incredible feat, unparalleled in WW2. With El Alamein costing just 13,500 casualties.
The US Army were a shambles in 1944/45 retreating in the Ardennes. The Americans didn't perform well at all east of Aachen, then the Hurtgen Forest defeat with 33,000 casualties and Patton's Lorraine crawl of 10 miles in three months at Metz with over 50,000 casualties, with the Lorraine campaign being a failure.
Then Montgomery had to be put in command of the shambolic US First and Ninth armies, aided by the British 21st Army Group, just to get back to the start line in the Ardennes, with nearly 100,000 US casualties. Hodges, head of the US First army, fled from Spa to near Liege on the 18th, despite the Germans never getting anywhere near to Spa. Hodges did not even wait for the Germans to approach Spa. He had already fled long before the Germans were stopped. The Germans took 20,000 US POWs in the Battle of The Bulge in Dec 1944. No other allied country had that many prisoners taken in the 1944-45 timeframe.
The USA retreat at the Bulge, again, was the only allied army to be pushed back into a retreat in the 1944-45 timeframe. Montgomery was effectively in charge of the Bulge having to take control of the US First and Ninth armies. Coningham of the RAF was put in command of USAAF elements. The US Third Army constantly stalled after coming up from the south. The Ninth stayed under Monty's control until the end of the war just about. The US armies were losing men at unsustainable rates due to poor generalship.
Normandy was planned and commanded by the British, with Montgomery involved in planning, with also Montgomery leading *all* ground forces, which was a great success coming in ahead of schedule and with less casualties than predicted. The Royal Navy was in command of all naval forces and the RAF all air forces. The German armour in the west was wiped out by primarily the British - the US forces were impotent against massed panzers.
Monty assessed the US armies (he was in charge of them) giving them a supporting infantry role, as they were just not equipped, or experienced, to fight concentrated tank v tank battles. On 3 Sept 1944 when Eisenhower took over overall allied command of ground forces everything went at a snail's pace. The fastest advance of any western army in Autumn/early 1945 was the 60 mile thrust by the British XXX Corps to the Rhine at Arnhem.
*You need to give respect where it is due.*
The British 1st Airborne made it to Arnhem bridge, taking the north end of the bridge, denying its use to the Germans.
The other two airborne units, both US, *failed* to seize their assigned bridges immediately. If they had XXX Corps would have been in Arnhem on d-day+1, before any armour came in from Germany. Game set and match.
The Germans would not have known what had hit them.
The *12 hour delay* caused by the 101st not seizing the Zon bridge, meant the Germans for 12 hours had a critical *_time window_* to pour in troops and get armour moving towards Arnhem.
The *36 hour delay,* on top of the 12 hour delay, caused by the 82nd not seizing their bridge at Nijmegen (XXX Corps had to take it for them), meant another longer time window for the Germans to keep up the reinforcing. The 36 hour delay created by the 82nd, meant a bridgehead over the Rhine was precluded, as the *two day time window* given to the Germans was far too long.
The British paras did their part in securing a crossing over its assigned waterway, the Rhine. The two US para units *failed* in theirs. XXX Corps hardly put a foot wrong.
@@talon1313
Charming.
The British denied the Arnhem bridge to the Germans for their use. The Germans had to slowly raft men and materials over to the _island,_ and denying them to place explosive on the bridge. The paras were in control.
The two US airborne units, both *failed* to seize their assigned bridges immediately. *If the US airborne units had, XXX Corps would have been in Arnhem on d-day+1,* before any armour came in from Germany. Game set and match. The Germans would not have known what had hit them.
At the end of the d-day all crossings were denied to the Germans, except one - the Nijmegen bridge. The 101st *failure* to secure a crossing at Zon, was partially negated by XXX Corps by themselves, erecting a Bailey bridge.
Monty like the cowards in the Burns family were never at Monty Garden thoughly enjoyed splashing around the channel. Read the Full Monty - burns was mentioned in it
@@bigwoody4704
Rambo, a quiz.
Name the two bridges the 82nd and 101st *failed* to seize in Operation Market Garden?
10 points for each bridge named.
This one's barking,I love quizzes What so called Field Marshall didn't cross the 30 Mile so called Channel for 4 FULL YEARS, when it only took 16-20 days to leave? The French,Belgians,Dutch,Poles and Czechs would like to know .You're going to have to make up a whole bunch of wonderful new lies or people aren't going to want to go on reading,Johhny.
The 82nd and 101st didn't end up in the Channel like Bernard.And showed up for the fight in the Netherlands unlike Bernard.Yup MONTY GARDEN,don't worry the Big Boys were more than happy to assist the Crown as it crumbled - sad to see indeed,I'm sure you'll agree
@@bigwoody4704
*BZZZZZZZZZZZT!* Wrong answer.
Rambo, the name the two bridges the 82nd and 101st failed to seize in Operation Market Garden were....
🎈🎊🍾 *Nijmegen bridge* 🎈🎊🍾
🎈🎊🍾 *Zon bridge* 🎈🎊🍾
Zero points Rambo. Zero. Better luck next time.
This only could’ve been done by the Germans. What a costly and humiliating beating this amateurs received,
Serious? Guards Armoured, 101st Airborne, 82nd Airborne, and the Red Devils Ametuers? Just because one fails to reach an objective under difficult circumstances does not make one an amateur.
I did the Nijmegen march along with the Paras. They are certainly not amateurs and a very tough bunch. However the planning was a bit poor on this one.
@@stevedunn5546 Indeed. They set the whole thing up in seven days in the hope the Germans in retreat would not regroup significantly in time. Turns out even this was not early enough. But it's a shock they managed to put it together so quickly amyway. D-Day had months of planning, amd was smaller in terms of airborne units.
@@aaropajari7058 Also the Garden part i.e the tanks ran out of fuel and had to stop until it was too late to be of any use.
@@stevedunn5546 The flanking XII and VIII corp started two days late due to fuel shortage also, leaving XXX corp stuck out like a sore thumb. Despite promises from Eisenhower for total logistical support, Patton managed to acquire a great deal meant for Montgomery, and a great many deaths resulted from it. Many forget Patton very negative role, at the strategic level, in the failure.
Monotonous narration and poor voice quality of narrator