Hilary Benn absolutely destroys government plan to abolish EU laws
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- In a debate on the EU Retained Law Bill, Labour MP Hilary Benn picked apart the Tories' proposals piece by piece.
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Brilliant speech by Hilary Benn.
I taught EU law for 25 years and didn't find one, not even ONE, which did not benefit ordinary working people in some way.
This government is horrendous.
what no plumbers needed, get a job
What do you mean?
17,500,000 people disagree with you! (Get over it!)
@@ferraridinoman what! Did they all teach EU law for 25 years as well?
Who needs experts, eh?
@@ferraridinoman Past tense, matey.... Not that it's worth trying to debate someone who **even now** still thinks brexit was a good idea. What rock have you been hiding under?
An MP who actually reads whats put in front of them, how refreshing.
Not true. What you have just witnessed is the totally normal functioning of the house of commons. Just not those slanging matches you see on news at ten. Thing is this type of "boring" debating doesn't gain audience.
If you want an honest and competent MP with pretty solid integrity Hillary Benn is a damn good example.
Good man on Globalism dump all them laws
@@garyt123 For your country (UK), maybe. But not for many of us...
@@garyt123 Benn is on top of his subject and is absolutely correct about the whole Brexit mistake 😑
This bill sums up why Raw sewage is continually being pumped into the Thames along with other environmental hazards.
Tory MPs don't care because they can't smell it.
@@juanribeiro73 very true
Making broad laws dismantles the whole rule of law.
Some ugly laws have passed in my lifetime in Finland too, but they have always been about a particular subject.
Laws that can be broadly interpreted leads to corruption.
Cheers from Finland!
With the Tories, enabling corruption is not a bug, it's a feature.
Cheers from a Scottish lady in the UK...to you in FINLAND...WE NOW HAVE AUTOCRATS...we already have to suffer, the corrupt, upper crust, rich, entitled spoiled, Tories...who have never understood, the hardships and problems, the poverty stricken, and the general public go through!
I like the MP'S passion, and his knowledge, lacking any fear you can feel how angry he is!
@@shugthehornyhaggis what is your point? Address the lady's opinion instead of her right to hold it.
Finland has a very capable education system, & thus intelligence in the art of semantics & critical thinking. Unfortunately, in the UK the opposite has occurred, & so the population have become mere reflectors of their culture & victims of their own mental illnesses.
Stay a Neutral country Finland
This was everything I feared about leaving the EU.
I voted remain because I knew this was the agenda
This is outrageous. General Election now please.
Taking back control of our money, *laws* and border.
They're too gutless, they know they'd lose by a landslide. Disgusting c unts.
I am happy with Rishi.
@@dragonfly6908 no you're not.
Please check what Gordon Brown did in the changeover from Blair to him ,is it one rule for Socialists and another for everyone else ? . We had to wait 3 years for the message to get through to Brown before we got that election . The difference here is - that Boris got a 80+ majority and the Tories always had that strange way of voting for the head of the party AND of course the voter in the street casts that vote for the party not the individual .
A brief and shining light of clarity, plain talking and sanity among the cesspit of self-serving BS we suffer day to day
Shame that we’re not hardly any MPs sitting in the house on all sides as regards such an important subject.They have had hardly sat the last 3 months as well what are they doing ?
cocaine and hookers
Getting paid handsomely from the public purse for doing nothing.
Ask BoJo in the Caribbean how many of his colleagues are his neighbours ??
Spending our money .Stop their benefits !
Taking suitcases down the coop for another wallpaper selection party. Now Sunaks in then it's obviously Flock that will get the nod.
We were flying back from Portugal a few weeks ago. Most flights were delayed for hours and hours. Everyone at our gate flying EU to EU got a full refund and 300 euro compensation per person.
Everyone at the next gate flying EU to UK got nothing, not a penny.
And they were all cursing the EU saying it was the EU fault they weren't getting anything!
God you cant win with those thick Gammons !
well I hope when it happens in Britain that flights are cancelled and that eu get nothing works both ways when people won the vote to get out of the eu out means out no ties none of there laws and if they do not want to trade well its them that will loose in the end
From my research, EU261 should still apply. I recently flew Ryanair Lisbon to Manchester and got delayed 4 hours. We were told to put a claim in, and I have. Will have to wait and see if I get a payout.
@@rounsterbout Can't see many EU citizens wanting to spend their holidays with ye.
@@rounsterbout People *did not* "win the vote to get out": the Referendum was merely an opinion poll: no one wins or loses an opinion poll !
Workers rights are looked after better in the EU.
No,try working in Spain
@@ImadZeryouh Oh yeah we're all brainwashed 😆
The relentless process of the concentration of legislative powers without scrutiny or ability to stop, is probably the most dangerous aspect of this bill.
All politicians know that no good crisis should be not be exploited. They also know that people forget and can be easily illinformed if not outright misinformed. Because without robust checks and balances, the people can be stripped of rights and protections without their knowledge or consent.
This is borderline evil at work.
@Iguazu65 not borderline, blatant!
"Without their knowledge or consent " is the by - word in your rant . Most of these European laws were put in place with the same rules & a similar "run out of time clause" and as I say the public at large were never informed about these laws and how the U.K. was not there voting them in ,they were only in the room ,to observe . Look through the video again and catch what Hilary Benn said ,he just mentions it in passing ,without admitting the U.K. had very little input ?. And that has been the problem all along , various governments of different types thought that the voter [me & you] were not bright enough to absorb what was going - on ,so they all decided to keep it quiet from the public and now it is all breaking what went - on ,the Marxists & the Re-moaners realise this has all come back to bite them on the a** . It was all wrong and what not was wrong - was hidden ,let the rules & laws ,slide in 2023 - Amen ! .
The UK on the way to autocracy.
Fk em
Wonder what comes first. The being a fascist state or the U.K. getting bankrupt.
We could fill some of the debt burden by making people value voting more; we could charge say £2500 a vote.
Poor people could sell their vote to somebody else for, say, £500.
For further information on this idea contact JRM c/o. Tuffton St.
Just like the U.S. 😢
We’ve been beaten into submission.
Wish Benn was on the front bench again. A voice of reason.
Why was he excluded/resigned from the shadow cabinet? Was there some sort of bad blood between him and Starmer?
He may sound good here but he is a war monger so I have no love for him.
He wanted to stay on his committee
.....but no one listens.
Tried to tell my fellow factory workers that their right to paid holidays could be coming to an end but I dont think many were taking me seriously. This is 100% the kind of thing the Tories will want through parliament.
Good! Tory voting plebs need to suffer.
You really believe the nasty Tory’s want to stop factory workers having paid hols…? 🤣🤣🤣 get a grip for gods sake ..
Lol, funny! Are you a fully grown adult?
Absolute rubbish,scaremongering again
They’ll definitely be riots of that happens
What's the point of electing MP's when they will just vote whatever way they are told?
Exactly Laura ! and yet as an Anarchist communist, I am slated for saying the very same thing .
Hilary Benn is making a powerful speech highlighting the madness of this bill.
Unfortunately, most Tory MP's will vote in support of their party without considering the arguments Hilary highlights so eloquently.
Our political system is broken and we will all suffer as a consequence.
Strikes will come because this goverment take away workers right pple will walk oh but gov ernment not bother cos we got boat pple to fiill why they not stopping boat pple
Whats the plan for how to change it?
Starmers labour is the Alternative Party a new party ideally led by Corbyn but if not union led with a natural leader from that background .
@@colinbrigham8253 would simply gaurantee tory rule by watering down resistance.
Not only will they not consider the arguments, they won't even hear them because they don't even bloody show up.
A vote to Leave the EU was simply a vote to leave. Not a vote to change 'burdensome' laws. We havent been asked which laws we wish to abolish.
But this is partly what it was all about.
Westminster makes the law now.
And you fell hook, line and sinker and voted for Brexit.
@@evolassunglasses4673 on the sneak lacking any proper scrutiny.
Bill's which remove established people's rights (in this free and democratic land), did nae even ought to be up for review....
Looks to me that the Tories, with a little emotional support by ukippers, took the referendum as a blank cheque to do what ever their twisted minds desire!! And to inflict as much damage as possible to Britain! Financially and especially reputationally!
Benn is brilliant
I agree.
He's not his father in afraid. 😐
@@capt.bart.roberts4975 I agree !!!
Benn Senior yes, junior no.
or not !!!
What's the betting they get rid of "the working time directive" which means that an employer could make you work for more than 48 hours per week and the employees would not have a leg to stand on. It will be a simple case of work over 48 hours or face losing your job.
That's precisely what they're after, increased productivity through effective slavery. It's the US of K and it's just around the corner. Anything to further exploit the population. They'll take every last penny, health insurance will be privatised entirely. All your gizmos and gadgets you've been enjoying will already have had all the data sold to private enterprise. Need to make a claim, well we're sorry but your phone's health app tells us you live far from a model lifestyle so unfortunately your claim is invalid, but thanks for the 10's of thousands of pounds you've spent on insurance premiums!
Never mind that! They want rid of paid, hoilday, sick pay and parental leave.
There's already a get out clause. Employment agencies ask workers to sign a waver. So the law doesn't apply to the people working in the gig economy and neither does the idea of job security. I remember arguing this with people in the run up to the EU referendum. People were being asked to vote to stay in the EU so they could benefit from workers rights that did not apply to them because of the loopholes which allows employers to deny those rights to the people who need them the most.
It's also about losing your right to paid overtime and holidays for overtime worked... meaning you accrue holidays for working overtime (quite rightly, you work more so you should have more entitlement to rest) but this will scrap the rights so it is a working to death/permanent disability for free at its best...
Dont worry they got new slavery to replacecommon working man called illegal migrants who work mutiple jobs minmum hrs pay but wont pay tax if pple dont strike for their right for work life balance not be able to sue employer neglegence not provide adequate protect clothing harrassment bullying holiday sick maternity pay all gone nothing u can do about it is what this bill is say no protection of green wildlife so they can destroy it build mega factories that run by pple lets not forget most these mp own multiple businesses so they benefit from not having to shell out for the above they think we dumb ones
I can't believe how bored and I can't be f..d expressions they got on their faces. Remember this is their job and it doesn't look like there is any passion or interest especially on the Torry side and also can count them on my fingers very little presences. Dodgy politicians.
The MPs present are not the dodgy ones; those are absent because they have better things to do or don’t want to hear criticism.
I think this every time I watch the Tories . All a load of self serving bastards.
The Tory makes a false argument that legislation was entered into the House without scrutiny under EU rules.
The UK had, at that time, quite a number of elected MEP's whose job it was to ensure good laws were passed. So these laws did most certainly pass parliamentary scrutiny, with an additional option for a UK government veto.
The Tories like to act that the EU did things without their consent. This is simply not true. The UK was, in its day, the most influential country deciding exactly what the EU did. Not a single law appeared on the EU statue book without UK approval.
That is plainly false.
We never had any influence in the EU, ask Cameron, he tried to renegotiate the treaty and they laughed at him, Blair promised referendum twice but didn't allow it, we where getting shat on, if the Tories had left after the vote we would be in a better state but they don't really want it, it doesn't fit with their globalist agendas.
Brexit was inevitable but they won't let it happen.
Exactly, been screaming this since BREXIT was proposed.
That these criminals still get away with stating these lies blows my mind.
That Tory is Bill Cash. He’s 82 and was the leader of the Maastricht Rebels back in the 1990s. This seems to be a personal obsession of his.
Nice to see everyone showed up to work today...
I've been against the EU all my life purely on a democratic front, but its already our law now so we have to deal with the law as it is, I disagree with Bill Cash, Hilary Benn is right, if we want to repeal EU law we should have to repeal the laws on a case by case basis, with a vote in the house, just being able to run down the clock on laws is extremely irresponsible and could have unforeseen consequences.
Happen the plan from the off, cloaked in obsquiesennt hot air and diversions.
What is the house of lords is that democrazy i don't think so .
you couldnt make it up how clueless the Torys are.
You also couldn't make it up that people are that thick they haven't yet worked out that both the Tories and Labour party are two cheeks of the same ass masquerading as enemies and that they no longer give two figs as to what the people of this country want , parliament is nothing but a show put on by actors . so to keep voting for them and expecting a different outcome is lunacy .
@Concrete Head Yup, it’s so disingenuous when people talk about Tory “failures” when it overlooks the chilling truth that their policies and legislation have exactly the effect they desired.
Not so much clueless an simply malicious.
Nah, it's all calculated. They just don't give a shite. Bunch of psychopaths.
@@theotherandrew5540 They thrive off viciousness don't forget .That it's only a few years since they used to hunt and watch With the upmost glee as animals were torn to pices . Frenzied to dive into the entrails and wipe them across their faces .With the most hideous relish. This is what decency is up against and they wish now set upon us .They are in deep degeneration but cannot see because they are so removed from real people Absolute self indulgence and no remorse at all.Best wishes to all 🌷
His father, Tony, would be be proud of his eloquent and learned son.
Absolutely shocking!
This is what people should watch not the damn BBC!!
True, the BBC is now a lefty woke biased channel and this is why i? have stopped watching it along with Sky News.. I can recall watching the BBC three times in the last 25 years and this was for Princess Diana's funeral, the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral and the recent funeral of The Queen.
3 times in 25 years, I guess that makes you an authority on the BBC 😂.
why are so few allowed to show up?
An indication of just how unimportant Benn's opinion is.
Because then they'd have to work for their money
His father was one of the greatest orators in parliament who could change the views of MPs in his speeches to parliament, and Hilary follows that tradition without question , Tony Benn is sadly missed ,I think there is not many MPs who have that gift
Fact
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Wasn't Tony Benn anti EU?
Yes he was ,as was Enoch Powell, strange bedfellows
Why is it that when anyone actually says something of any value that's devoid of theatre and Pantomime the house and chambers are empty 🤔
BILL CASH??????????????????????not the working mans Friend
It is a bill for the lazy because it means they don't have to do anything, they can sit back and let it happen. The inevitable consequences are chaos and unintended consequences.
I see all of this utter madness and think thank god I’m Scottish,hopefully soon we can leave leave this house of horror and control our own path towards fairness and prosperity🏴
Half my family are Scottish so if you'd welcome a northerner I'd happily join
And put a hard border between you and the one country 90% of your trade goes through. I deeply share the anger and frustration felt by areas that voted remain (my own area, Brighton and Hove, was 70% remain, which is more than most of Scotland was), but going it alone will only damage England further and MASSIVELY damage Scotland further (ONS reckons a 10% hit to your economy). In the wake of a yes vote see how long your free universities, free prescriptions and free hospital car parks last. It’s a nice dream but Independence will not bring prosperity. Far from it!
@@gerardmackay8909 we'd just set up new trade routes that avoid England, just like Ireland did. We're getting a shipping route to Belgium next year I believe.
@@gerardmackay8909 Scotland won't ever vote to leave.
@@mdog2501 well that might help a bit but anything like enough? It still seems to be piling damage on damage ( look what wishful thinking did in 2016 ). Anyway much of my heritage is Scottish (Mackays and McTavish’s) and I will always wish the land of my forbears well.
MPs are so rude just on their phones whilst important matters are being discussed.
This is a terrible bill!
Worth watching until the end to get all of the amazing points.
This is what every eu citizens that lives in the UK said would happen. Why because EU countries are run a lot better than the UK, the only reason the UK ran well was because it was in the EU. EU countries don’t profit from warmongering so while you may make more than them it’s not sustainable. My dad said it in 2015, he said it again in 2016 and he said god rest her soul the queen would have to step in and take over suspending parliament. He’s a conservative btw but due to tax breaks but even he knew it wasn’t about making anyone richer besides literally the very very 0.001 of the population and the politicians.
So blame Cameron.
Probably the most ridiculous comment ever made on TH-cam ^^^
Hilary Benn... another complete waste of space!! What has he ever done, ever????
I'm getting a kind of Argentina before it was hit by devastating Shock Doctine feeling about what is happening. I think the Cons are deliberatly causing chaos.
Mogg's father wrote a book on the benefits ofdisaster capitalism , its in his blood !
This bill is truly frightening, but it’s impact is likely to be ignored by most of the public because it’s deemed to be either too boring or another justifiable step in getting rid of EU laws under Brexit without regard to the consequences. I want all our laws to be debated and examined before they’re passed, not just accepted because they exceed a time limit!
Brilliant......bring back Ben, Milliband and the likes, to save the country. They are heads an shoulders above the current crew..
Ah ah ah, good one, you should do stand up.
And this is the real reason behind brexit… to abolish European laws that benefit the masses not the few.
this is the type of politician i want in my country
This bill is an Enabling Act by another name. When laws are made without detail, without scrutiny and without monitoring to measure their effectiveness they can be interpreted widely, giving ministers great latitude to apply them to their own advantage. This is how a Parliament turns into a fascist rubber stamp.
All the other MPs were on their phones and their papers.
Did anybody listen? Shouldn't phones be banned from the House?
just keep pressing for a general election
We need a elected upper house ffs, turn the house of lords into museum where it belongs.
What positive difference would it make? Likely we'd just end up with two houses like the Commons that either have the same majority party and just vote everything through, or different parties and constantly suffer legislature gridlock. The Lords have detailed debates from a different viewpoint, often proposing amendments to otherwise unworkable Commons bills.
Undoubtedly there are Lords who work the system and get paid for doing practically nothing, but you don't have to look too deeply into the MPs and their expenses to see that's not unique to the Upper House. I agree the recent (past 2 decades of) expansion of the Lords is unnecessary, and it should have maintained the size after the reforms in 1999.
Bloody Hell, I agree with Hilary Benn.
Me too, I can’t believe I’m saying this,things must be bad.
Mr Ben your father was a great debater carry on the good work🇬🇧
Hilary Benn where have you been ? Something of a restoration of thought- through wise common sense
I don’t understand what Hilary Ben’s objection is to parliament being sidelined now. Parliament IS sidelined and has been ever since the passing of the The Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act 2022 made clear the constitutional position that parliament only sits because the government of the day allows it to.
That bill should have been fought with everything backbenchers had, legals, sit ins, filibusters etc, but it wasn’t.
Thanks for pointing this out. I'll read it. Did Starmer oppose it? There has been so much 'silent coup' legislation and so little opposition, people don't know what's going on and the kind of dictatorship that's come in.
Take back control was not by you, or for you, but of you !
Best comment yet, succinct and piercingly accurate 👍
Something that I always thought was their cunning intention. They cleverly misled many by their devious,misleading words.
The sunset clause is insane! Essentially just a bonfire of regulations by default on 31st Dec 2023
How refreshing. An MP who dare speak the name of Brexit and identify its threat!
He gets his oratory skills from his firebrand socialist father 👏. People believed in the Tories and a better future including my dead 52 year old brother
Hillary benn is not a SOCIALIST like his father. He is a right wing war monger who voted for the Iraq war 5 times.
Well done Hilary. Thank God you are keeping vigilant on this.
Needing more politicians to agree before something can be done will ensure nothing gets done until the agreement benefits more politicians.
This is the most scandalous post brexit bill of them all
People actually voted for Bill Cash, just think about that.
Turkeys voting for Xmas..
@@davidpeppert777 you mean - thanksgiving
@@XxfibergearxX Yes if you live over the other side of the Atlantic!😊
@@davidpeppert777 fortunately I don’t, just out of curiosity is turkeys on Christmas also a saying in the Uk?
Thanksgiving is an American thing. Turkey is a tradition at Christmas in the UK because it was once expensive and therefore a treat, despite it being relatively bland and unexciting. Matches a lot of our food to be honest, or at least the versions of it most people subject themselves to.
Fucking right, too. You tell 'em, Hilary.
When is the vote, and are the government whipping it?
A lot of my working life has been IT systems in insurance. Currently the UK is able to do insurance business with the EU because we have GDPR equivalence and Solvency II regulations. Get rid of those and we wave goodbye to that business. What's more, currently there are a lot of IT systems which fling data around - e.g. the failover servers for Ireland are in the UK and vice-versa. That will cost a huge amount of money to untangle. This is insanity.
The hand of JRM and the ERG all over it. Such fine people.
Goodbye democracy.
Abandon everything to do with the EU. Ridiculous.
I agree with previous comment. Ots an excellent bit of political dismantling of another fascist like tory Bill, but no-one there to hear it! So frustrating
A powerful speech which hits the nail solidly on the head.
This bill could sabotage any attempt by a future government to join a free trade agreement with the EU. Such an agreement would require common rules on both sides, and this bill seeks to abolish many of those rules arbitrarily. A free trade agreement would also promote growth, thus demonstrating that the UK is better off in the Eu, and also that Boris, Faridge and all the other brexiteers lied to us. In this context this shoddy bill makes sense. While disguised as "freedom" from EU regulation it also serves as a barrier to improving the economy by undoing some of the damage caused by leaving the EU. Just imagine an end to customs queues, an end to the seasonal labour shortage, an end to the current tensions in Northern Ireland and no more miles of trucks at the ports. People might realise they were lied to, at least some of them.
This is what Modi is doing in India, he is bypassing Parliament and making executive decisions to run the Govt.
Onkar Bhaduri....seems true democracy is as far away as ever....both in Britain and elsewhere!
Very worrying...
Bill Cash talking absolute garbage again…
Fascism people. UK is heading down a very dark tunnel.
🤡
Project Fear should have been called Project Cassandra
An excellent speech. At least this guy has half a brain.
The Bill will not get through the Lords ........where are all the Tories who should be listening to the common sense
from Hilary Benn ? Cheers, DaveH.
They have just changed Rees mogg with another 🤡
It's like I'm watching a prequel of V for Vendetta
What do you mean “what are the rules”? Isn’t it obvious? The working population has to do whatever the employer comes up with. No matter what.
That’s one simple rule.
This is what the likes of Steve Baker & Jacob Reece - Mogg meant by " EU red tape ". It's not surprising they were always careful not to go into any details.
Hilary Benn a very honest man we don’t hear enough from him.
We should be the same as other countries who are not subject to EU laws either.
A bill designed by sadistic and psychopathic individuals
It is a sinister bill and should not succeed.
This can’t pass surely
It still has to go the Lords...who will jam it up with ammendments and send it back. So it can be ping ponged back and forth. But that sunset clause Dec 2023, is very worrying 😡
That was also said about the truly ominous Public Order Bill, wasn't it?
This is unconscionable. Your country is being torn apart from within. Bit by bit. I am no fan but this is very worrying. No one with a backbone to oppose this?
Brilliant speech
Why isn’t Benn on the front bench?
Good man 👏
around 30 MPs present in chambers - out of how many hundreds?
Remember to turn back your clocks...
This man is totally brilliant.
Well Done ! Clapping 👏 I started to subscribe.
Yes this bill should be rejected it concerns our human rights and ministers should not be above the law in Thier decision makeing
The bill throws out the baby with the bathwater. All for ideological dogma.
Thank you for your analysis..... picking up the important issues.
Laughing all the way to his offshore moneybox.
he's totally right - how many laws from the EU did we not have to pass on a national level, because they were already implemented at the EU level? (I believe parliament has a kind of rubber stamp vote to implement EU laws as an Act of Parliament, but the EU law was a kind of 'minimum'?). Repealing these laws would remove great swathes of hard won worker and environmental protections - this should be done case by case, no expiry dates that will lead to a legislative bonfire. Tory donors are hoping this passes as quietly as possible, I'm sure
They knew what they were voting for!
Brexshit!!
Roll on Scottish independence .. Saor Alba 🏴
That's what 'Take Back Control' actually means. Power to the few, not the people.
His father would be ashamed of him.
as should yours be of you.
All party's need to bring this up in parliment they owe it to Thier constituents