I’m shocked at how few comments you have here but thanks so much for this video. I’ve watched a zillion pack videos like everyone else out there but the way you showed everything made so much sense and the interior bag shot helped a ton. Also FINALLY someone with a real sized tent. 😂 Thank you. Big new fan here.
Tim, I wish I had seen this a few months ago, it would have saved me from getting rid of my GG40-42 and sumo, because no matter how I packed them, they just didn't give me a good carry. Seeing this, you pointed out where I was going wrong. Weight distribution...is one thing, but where to put it, a different ball game. I am not light weight by any means, but this has given me so much food for thought, and confidence I could be better. A big thanks for this tutorial, that over head shot was so informative too. I subbed on the strength of this video. Go steady and safely out there. B...
Packing is so personal, everyone has their style, but moving to a frameless pack requires thinking differently. Your process is similar to mine, probably driven by the PNW rainy season. I really like the mood of the video, the editing, and your presentation.
Glad you found it interesting. So far its the best system I've come across, and I got the idea from Cam Honan over at the Hiking Life website. Let me know how it works for you!
Wow I think this just made me realize I want a frameless set up. Only problem is my base weight is about 12lb without food and water :’( Awesome video man! So glad I came across your channel
I carry 12 lb baseweights in my frameless pack without much issue, so you don't need to rule it out, but I think it depends on your personal level of comfort. So glad you've been enjoying the videos!
Great video! I have an MLD prophet which I love. For the first time I am going on a trip to an area where a bear can is required. What are your thoughts on carrying a bear can in a frameless pack like the MLD prophet? My base weight without the bear can is typically around 9 pounds in the summer.
Thanks for the kind words, Chris! The most recent Prophet and the Exodus (2020ish) are the same dimensions in width and depth, and I can fit a BV500 in mine, no problem. I keep my sleeping pad on the back, then put my tent at the bottom, bear can, followed by pack liner with clothes and sleeping bag to pad around the can as much as possible. It's not perfect, but it works. You could also strap it to the top, which I've done, but I hate having things hanging off of my pack. Another option for you would be to get an Ursack, which would be ideal. You'd be able to pack it like normal and it's about a third the weight of a bear can, and its easier to hang than a normal bear bag (around here anyway where prime bear hang trees are hard to find.) I haven't used one yet but its on the list. You'll need to check with the park to see if they're permitted, though. Have a great week!
What max fully loaded weight have you used for the MLD Exodus? Im floating somewhere 26-27 in alpine environments given the need for bear and bug protection items.
Hey! Probably taken it to the low 20s. At 26-27 I'd personally take something with a true frame. It's not just the frame itself, but framed packs fit different and take lots of stress off of the shoulders.
I’m surprised you don’t pack the rain jacket in that outside pocket. That way, when you need it, you have quick access to it without having to open your pack.
Thanks for the comment, Andrew! I'm not a huge fan of having stuff outside of my pack and I like using the rain jacket to help keep my ditty bag from bouncing around - only takes me a moment to grab it if needed. Everyone does it a little different, though!
Excellent. Prefer food-bag as close to small-of-back as possible. Food-bag packing is crucial, since it it the densest item in the pack. Important that it: 1) conform to the shape of ones lower-back curvature, as this is the only "shelf" on the body suitable for resting weight (shoulders are the other, but shoulders aren't for resting weight upon). 2) Food-bag should be smooth on the side facing one's back. Place pan's, spoons or other irregularly-shaped objects away from touching one's back. Folding items are ok, but tend to leave creases in expensive gear. Better to roll when possible. (more...) Rolled items tend to fill in the gaps anyway (effectively 'squaring' themselves up as they are inserted). Rolled items are thus available from the top without removing other items (whereas folded items tend to get stuck, requiring removal of other items to pull them out individually). Also, rolled-items provide slightly more stiffness and structure to the pack than do folded items. These are finer points and many will debate. Nevertheless, this is one of the best packing videos out there. Well done, sir.
Thanks so much for the feedback, Tom! Yep, there's a million and one ways to pack a pack, and part of the fun is debating the details. I appreciate the kind words!
Show, don't tell. The basic rule of instruction. Sorry, but I didn't come to look at your face (nice as it may be). On to the next video. (No, I didn't bother to watch the whole thing.)
I’m shocked at how few comments you have here but thanks so much for this video. I’ve watched a zillion pack videos like everyone else out there but the way you showed everything made so much sense and the interior bag shot helped a ton. Also FINALLY someone with a real sized tent. 😂
Thank you. Big new fan here.
So glad you enjoyed it, Caleb! Yeah I tried to show with the size of tent most people would be familiar with. Thanks for the kind words!
Tim, I wish I had seen this a few months ago, it would have saved me from getting rid of my GG40-42 and sumo, because no matter how I packed them, they just didn't give me a good carry.
Seeing this, you pointed out where I was going wrong.
Weight distribution...is one thing, but where to put it, a different ball game. I am not light weight by any means, but this has given me so much food for thought, and confidence I could be better.
A big thanks for this tutorial, that over head shot was so informative too.
I subbed on the strength of this video. Go steady and safely out there.
B...
Thanks so much for the kind words! I'm glad you found the video useful :)
Packing is so personal, everyone has their style, but moving to a frameless pack requires thinking differently. Your process is similar to mine, probably driven by the PNW rainy season. I really like the mood of the video, the editing, and your presentation.
Thanks! Editing is a work in progress haha.
Good tips, just got a frameless pack and will give this a go
Thanks for the comment! Let me know how it works out!
I also like to play with gear at home in the middle of the day.
Pretty much the best way to spend an afternoon, besides actually being outside haha.
Pretty novel approach with the tent down the back thing. I’m gonna play around and give this a shot.
Glad you found it interesting. So far its the best system I've come across, and I got the idea from Cam Honan over at the Hiking Life website. Let me know how it works for you!
Wow I think this just made me realize I want a frameless set up. Only problem is my base weight is about 12lb without food and water :’(
Awesome video man! So glad I came across your channel
I carry 12 lb baseweights in my frameless pack without much issue, so you don't need to rule it out, but I think it depends on your personal level of comfort. So glad you've been enjoying the videos!
Good point that a large pack allows you to stuff the sleeping bag looser
Great video! I have an MLD prophet which I love. For the first time I am going on a trip to an area where a bear can is required. What are your thoughts on carrying a bear can in a frameless pack like the MLD prophet? My base weight without the bear can is typically around 9 pounds in the summer.
Thanks for the kind words, Chris! The most recent Prophet and the Exodus (2020ish) are the same dimensions in width and depth, and I can fit a BV500 in mine, no problem. I keep my sleeping pad on the back, then put my tent at the bottom, bear can, followed by pack liner with clothes and sleeping bag to pad around the can as much as possible. It's not perfect, but it works. You could also strap it to the top, which I've done, but I hate having things hanging off of my pack.
Another option for you would be to get an Ursack, which would be ideal. You'd be able to pack it like normal and it's about a third the weight of a bear can, and its easier to hang than a normal bear bag (around here anyway where prime bear hang trees are hard to find.) I haven't used one yet but its on the list. You'll need to check with the park to see if they're permitted, though.
Have a great week!
What max fully loaded weight have you used for the MLD Exodus? Im floating somewhere 26-27 in alpine environments given the need for bear and bug protection items.
Hey! Probably taken it to the low 20s. At 26-27 I'd personally take something with a true frame. It's not just the frame itself, but framed packs fit different and take lots of stress off of the shoulders.
I’m surprised you don’t pack the rain jacket in that outside pocket. That way, when you need it, you have quick access to it without having to open your pack.
Thanks for the comment, Andrew! I'm not a huge fan of having stuff outside of my pack and I like using the rain jacket to help keep my ditty bag from bouncing around - only takes me a moment to grab it if needed. Everyone does it a little different, though!
I know I do
Excellent. Prefer food-bag as close to small-of-back as possible. Food-bag packing is crucial, since it it the densest item in the pack. Important that it: 1) conform to the shape of ones lower-back curvature, as this is the only "shelf" on the body suitable for resting weight (shoulders are the other, but shoulders aren't for resting weight upon). 2) Food-bag should be smooth on the side facing one's back. Place pan's, spoons or other irregularly-shaped objects away from touching one's back. Folding items are ok, but tend to leave creases in expensive gear. Better to roll when possible. (more...)
Rolled items tend to fill in the gaps anyway (effectively 'squaring' themselves up as they are inserted). Rolled items are thus available from the top without removing other items (whereas folded items tend to get stuck, requiring removal of other items to pull them out individually). Also, rolled-items provide slightly more stiffness and structure to the pack than do folded items.
These are finer points and many will debate. Nevertheless, this is one of the best packing videos out there. Well done, sir.
Thanks so much for the feedback, Tom! Yep, there's a million and one ways to pack a pack, and part of the fun is debating the details. I appreciate the kind words!
Show, don't tell. The basic rule of instruction. Sorry, but I didn't come to look at your face (nice as it may be). On to the next video. (No, I didn't bother to watch the whole thing.)
I want to hear the principles and the thinking behind the decisions. Keep on telling