PANORAMA: Is Uganda an Indian colony?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ย. 2022
- Is Uganda an Indian colony? This is the title for the recently published book by historian, Prof Samwiri Lwanga Lunyiigo, a Ugandan scholar.
The book wades into the combustible subject of Indian story and weaves it around commerce, politics and the culture wars between the settlers and the natives.But is this the case?
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It's not asians fault if the natives can't run a business.
After all that, why call the Indians back to restart the economy? Because the locals ran the economy in to the ground. Only a handful of Indians returned.
Stay in your India and help your numerous population living in squalor
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne Update your knowledge. India is currently the 5th largest economy on its way to the worlds 3rd largest. Feeding 800M people for free. Uplifted over 350M out of poverty. But I guess you won’t know that due to the whole of Africa living in squalor and turmoil. Blame your own government for calling the Indians back.
Millions still live in squalor and filthy surroundings
They shouldn’t have called them back at all
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8nesays the sub Saharan. Lack of water, lack of infrastructure and lack of food is synonymous with your region inspite of being blessed with the most amount of natural resources.
Wow! Beautiful piece. Informative and fairly well researched. Keep it up Ntv.
Lmao. Well researched? At 10:53 this news report insinuates that Indians can have dual Indian and Ugandan citizenship. Which is a blatant lie. Because Indian law does not allow for dual citizenship.
Very educative thank you NTv
To all Africans who are blaming Indian for becoming rich in Africa..
I want to share something,
In India, there are Parisi, who are originally from Persia i e Iran...
Today parisi are among the richest person in India...
We indian never considered parisi as outsiders even if they have foreign roots...
Paris like Tata who gave india industrial revolution.... another parisi gave victory to india in 1971 war.... another Parisi gave india its nuclear weapons...
If someone is born on your land irrespective of its race, colour, religion he is one of yours.
Please I know about the way Siddis as well as Kiratas are treated within South Asia like garbage same as towards Gypsies, Dravidians, Veddoids, Sentinel Islanders, And Nicobar Islanders yeah.
How many countries want to live in Uganda. Uganda is a tiny landlocked country which is meant for The Indigenous Ugandan.
Then stop accepting all foreign aid and investment.
@@death_paradeGood point!
@@death_paradeIt's Africa aiding the west and not the other way around.
@@bang8534oh please. Uganda exports barely anything of importance.
@@death_parade Are you kidding me,the West can never payback what they stole from Africa . Without free raw materials from Africa, the Industrial Revolution wouldn’t have taken place. The so - called Aid is tiny trop in the ocean to Africa
Thanks NTV and Nantume, I learn one thing......... HARDWORK
Dear Ugandan brothers and sisters, as well as all other Africans, and allow me to point out that the Indians and the Chinese will dominate our economics, simply because they are engaged in manufacturing, a sector we are naturally reluctant to adopt. The historic dominance of India and China for the last 3 000 years was based on manufacturing!
Africa and South America are the only continents that have no manufacturing capabilities and their economy shows it.
😂😂😂What??
@@halfdome4158 You heard him.
@@halfdome4158 He is right.
Before the west plundered countries of the world, India and China were the biggest economies of the world. A huge percentage of British colonial Empire was also funded by wealth stolen from India.
Africa, India and China also have trading relationships from ancient times. When the first Portuguese ship reached India, it was an Indian merchant ship that sailed between Africa and India showed it the route to India.
In future, things will go back to as they were before. China has risen, India is rising and Africa is waking up. Meanwhile, the west would crumble and loose it's influence.
@@asmirann3636British looting of India is a myth. The British actually lost money on India. As far as India and China were biggest economies, they were also the biggest populations due to good agricultural lands. Also in 1600 the USA did not exist, but by 1950, the USA was 50 percent of global economy. This squeezed other economies down.
Very nice report!!!
As an Indian I am indebted to Adi Amin. He was one of the greatest Saviour of the Indians in Uganda. He made sure Indians moved to greener pastures before he started the economic and human genocide in Uganda. May God bless him for helping Indians out before carrying out his master plan. Amen!
Lol ROFL
Quite a way to look at it
Silver lining in the darkest of clouds
All those in positions of political power, all governments, all kings, and all republican authorities have always looked askance at private property. There is an inherent tendency in all governmental power to recognize no restraints on its operation and to extend the sphere of its dominion as much as possible. To control everything, to leave no room for anything to happen of its own accord without the interference of the authorities-this is the goal for which every ruler secretly strives. If only private property did not stand in the way! Private property creates for the individual a sphere in which he is free of the state. It sets limits to the operation of the authoritarian will. It allows other forces to arise side by side with and in opposition to political power.
Ludwig von Missies
Author of
Socialism
Why don’t you Guys stay in your country
@@EmmanuelBediako-yg8newe were brought there during the colonial empire.
Anyway, don’t give people visas if you don’t want them - simple.
They told us to leave from uganda, Kenya, Myanmar, Fiji - we left for much greener pastures and results are evident. Learn or lament, make what you want of it
What greener pastures ? India ?, millions live in slums and abject poverty
While the Ugandan President says expelling Asians was a mistake, the locals do not share similar sentiments, it appears. Such being the case, why would a foreigner (except if he were a thrill-seeker) consider investing in Uganda?
@elanjelian
Ur funny! How can u expect a president to come and explain why chasing colonialists was bad....,! He has to sweet talk them & act good for purposes of diplomating relations.
@@ug.nationalist - Precisely why very few will bother investing or setting up shop in Uganda.
@@ug.nationalistcolonists? I thought india was a colony of Britain 😅
@@yv2971
U cant understand ugandan things when u r outside uganda. Example, u may b surprised if i told u that prisoners in uganda doing hard labour in open fields are guarded by fellow prisoners on behalf of Govt...., and they all come back to their respective cells in the evenning.... U see!!!
Similarly, A colonised fellow can implement Colonisation of another on behalf of the Colonialist...
@@ug.nationalist that means not only asians ugandans also acted as colonists after west left . Why didn't IDI AMIN remove them from the country too . The term you are searching is " Loyalists" . They were in America too . They were expelled by American why can't you do that ?
Why is it impossible for Ugandans or Africans for that matter to succeed economically?.
Look at this comment section. These people are busy resenting the one community that is succeeding and helping their economy grow. Is it only in Africa? No. Indians are successful wherever they go. Indian-Americans, for example, are the top earning demographic in USA. This is the result of Indian ethos. Africans in general and Ugandans in particular need to learn from the Indian example. Imagine if Africa could be one nation just like India is one nation. Africa would be one of the top 10 world economies by GDP and military might as well. Instead, Africans are busy resenting their colonial past, forgetting to live in the present. Even if Ugandans got their wish and all foreigners including Indians left, Uganda will still remain the same. This time it will be one black tribe fighting another. And these blame games will remain the same.
BTW, I don't mean everyone in Africa is like that, but many are. And they are the real reason for Africa's lack of progress (although some African nations have been doing rather good).
@@death_parade
U dont know what is in Uganda currently...., How & why indians r given free land & money to b called investors all against public outcry
@@death_paradeit is a painful truth that you are saying
@@ug.nationalist It is to make up for what was taken away. Not Indian gets it. Instead of whining, why don't you watch and learn from Indians residing there and running businesses. Ask them to mentor you because you too want to become successful, I am sure they will be happy to teach what they can as part of it comes from cultural values. Uganda can be and actually all of Africa can be at the top of the world if there was consensus and people of all cultures, races can rise up Africa. If the USA can be successful as a melting pot then why can't Uganda or Africa.
As an African Indian, thank you Idi Amin. Keep saying Indians are colonizers. Propaganda work. Blame foreigners who adopted a new home but were blamed.
The Desis that arrived were no saints they were indoctrinated from birth and early on before there arrival by Western Europeans that they were superior to Sub Saharan Africans maybe The SSAs reacted but The Indian Subcontinentals were no merits of virtue themselves either many behaved almost as badly, just as badly, or slightly as badly as Western Euros acted towards SSAs yeah.
uganda,s & African,s are not fairy treaded the same in india, Afwande kikino
Ugandans and Africans are treated rather fairly in India. My University had many Africans studying in it under the Government of India scholarship. Many of them used to be given pardon and extensions on assignments even though us regular Indians never got those benefits.
Indian are still not over colonial hangover....skin color is soMething Which Still matters...
@@death_parade We have witnessed black Africans students in Ind India have been chased and beaten like dogs in different cities of India, the videos are still available on TH-cam. So what are you trying to say here
@@SAKO960 criminality is not rewarded. Or stupidity to venture jntk dodgy areas. Easy to cherry pick events that suit your narrative
Indians was victim of colonialism, but we are damn talented that we can win everything without colonise anyone
Desis invaded much of South East Asia hence why Hinduism became large over there but then again Desis have also been treated like trash since ancient times by other Desis as well as Middle Easterners, South East Asians, East Asians, Eastern Europeans, and more yeah.
12:26 but you have no problem stealing from us.
Why should they fight to become Ugandan citizens? Why aren't our universities producing industrialists?
Because they have ancestral contributions to Uganda. Why should they give up their lawful business and leave?
@@death_paradeChinese have lots of contributions to Singapore inspite of them stepping on the toes of Native Malays and Indians to do it yeah.
Hope the next gorvnment will be a responsible one, which will limite the retail trade for the benfit of ugandans.
1:40 but this is how many years ago? What is stopping Ugandans from taking back wealth 🤔?
A president who is not a Ugandan, foreigners are favored more than Ugandans yet we compete in the same market. Use your brain and think about what i have told you.
@@sagan5051 I am using my brain. What is stopping ordinary Ugandans from taking a stand. Ýour so called Mps are just as corrupt talking but not enough action.
@@ljinhim9022 do you know that the so called investors are given tax holidays after its expiry they change the company name and directors and again apply for the same. While on the on the contrary Ugandans in the same businesses pay taxes, the Indian commodities are chronically cheaper. This unfairness kills native businesses.
@@KPK19800 So? That is the stupidity of your own system that it can be gamed so easily. Why blame the fellow who is taking advantage of it? It is your fault that you can't strengthen your own system.
As for investors getting tax holidays, foreign investors in India also get tax holidays. But they never manage to game the Indian system like that. Because Indian institutions are strong.
@@death_parade
U dont know what is in Uganda currently...., How & why indians r given free land & money& tax holidays so as to b called investors all against public outcry
Ndowooza banange tutegende ensobi zaffe twenyoma, tukwatibwa banaffe obujja kale netwelemesa okufenda mumaso e.g twokya ebintu byabanaffe abagezako okola oba okubajjawo nebava mubunde bwensi. Twedemu ffebenyini era abo abayindi tubayigireko ensi osobole okugenda mumaso mukifo kyokutolotoma
Indians are the hardest working people in the entire world most drive most ambition these people are needed to build economies
How about the gov't investing in Ugandans to gain critical skills, every region should have science center free of charge, youths re busy with bodabodas and others going to middle east as maids and you expect someone from another c'try
Don't know about Govt of Uganda, but Government of India has started three institutions in Uganda recently:-
India-Africa Institute of Foreign Trade
Material Testing Laboratories for Highways
Food-Processing Business Incubation Centre
If Uganda asks for it, India can help in other high-tech areas like Space tech, Weapons tech, Tunnels and Bridges, Civil Nuclear tech, Aerospace, Automobiles, Textiles, Agriculture, etc, etc.
And yet Indians get all the hate in Uganda. Ugandans need to grow up and focus on pulling themselves up instead of pulling others down.
Look at Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia and Hongkong under the British Imperialist Rule. They got the best brains into their country and that turned around things for them. I can understand Idi Amin's anxiety because the Africans were poor and basically labor class or subsistence farmers. But having said that, Indians were the Middle Class of the Ugandan Society. Amin broke the back of his country by throwing trained people out of
Thailand was never part of any European Empire and Indonesia was part of the Dutch Empire, not British Empire.
Yet South East Asia is still less developed then East Asia while West Asia less so then SEA and South Asia less so then West Asia yeah.
How is the government gaining from these foreign investments.
Africans are in India centuries before Indians were brough to Africa as 'coolies' by Britain. Africans known as 'SIDDI' are in India, brought by Arabs around 700 CE These are Bantu peoples of Southeast Africa. Later few Africans came with the Portuguese and the British. At present tens of thousands' on Nigerians have entered India. Indian Punjabi were brought to East Africa by Britain in 1895 to build the railways Of the 32,000 or so workers from India 2,493 are reported to have died in East Africa and 6,454 were severely injured. The man eating lions of Tsavo alone killed 130 Indian. Today India is ahead of UK in several fields including the economy that is the 5th largest.
Why do we have bosses?
CEO?
Exactly 💯 not everyone has the same capabilities
Take a look at the Africans that live in their countries and compare the difference. Far too many of those leaders are our nightmares. They will just be eliminated or imprisoned by the oppressors when it's over.
Balance, sense and dignity is what we must demand from those leaders. Throw out those who fail their nationals in return for under hand envelopes.
Indians are not a enemy for Uganda...
I guess The Han Chinese are not the enemy of Taiwan concerning The Taiwanese Aborignals in that case so yeah.
This is Problem with most deconised nations 😂😂
The thinking of ugandans is same as Indians in era of 1947(freedom) to 1990. In these Years India was doomed . Failed to industrialise . India defaulted in 1990s had to give all its gold to take loan. Then we changed iur mind. Opened up . Today we want as much more investment from world as they can bring. We dont think like u ugandans to now. Thats why we r growing fastest in the world
Really really feel sorry forour east African Brothers and sisters, i must say a kudos to our African brothers and sisters from west and central Africa countries, they so resisted the French and British to the points that they could not ship the Indians into West and central Africa. It's East Africa and Southern Africa that have battled the Indian invasions of their regions since the colonial days till date, we in Western Africa and central Africa could have been in the similar situations if not that our founding fathers completely resisted the colonizers with the last drop of blood, they would have turned our societies a multi cultural societies the way they did to East Africa and Southern Africa
General Id-Amin-Dada was right. I am so happy Uganda is free at last.
So Why Your Dada Left Uganda
Idi Amin destroyed Uganda and spared no one
we never colonize any one
Dear Ugandan brothers and sisters, how many companies around the world have an Ugandan or an African at the top? Running a business requires different kind of intelligence Without that competency just driving out the business community based on their race, will only backfire.
1. If we came to know what those Indians are doing, even we Ugandans can do it also. 2. If our government starts supporting us, as they support Indians and others then we will not become someone's colony.
Indians are busy working hard and smart at the same time. Ugandans can't even get a handle on their own hatred for Indians insomuch that they end up targeting new Indian investors from India who have no previous connection to Uganda. Haters gonna hate. And then they gonna lose. Universally applicable rule.
@@death_parade
U dont know what is in Uganda currently...., How & why indians r given free land & money to b called investors all against public outcry.
@@ug.nationalistI mean how Long will you guys make excuses for your own lacking , instead of learning business acumen you guys just hating , I can't accept any human is superior than other ,but business acumen can definitely be different, indians were traders for thousands of years , so indians are quite hard working and have business mindset of taking risk ,
they are successful everywhere they go ,
Uganda should work with their indian counterpart to get experience and start their own company
indians where invaded ethnically cleansed for 1200 uears from islma to brits .brits took them to african nations tjey never had anyone backing them for 70 years even after independence.they bealy had any idenity beciluse bakc in india the government after independece was comprimised by british and then russians so no one helped to exist and grow
Why can’t they go to India
They obviously can. But why should they? They own a lawful business in Uganda, not in India. You can't just uproot your family and business from one backward nation and then suddenly move to a competitive nation like India and then hope to be successful.
@@death_paradeNah.
@@is17a985 Such a slothful reply. _Anata taida desu ne_
Because they want to dominate africsns
They will.. Just make another law to expel them... India will very happy to recive them...
Recently Kampala over runned with gangs
How many ugandans hold infian passports, whose interest ,answer urself. Tukooye ejoogo
If you mean to ask how many Indians in Uganda hold dual citizenship of India and Uganda, the answer is zero, despite what this fake news report might make you believe.
If you mean to ask how many Black Ugandans hold Indian citizenship, the answer is: ask your own damn selves. Black Ugandans can get Indian citizenship by following proper procedure just as easily as White Westerners can. Indian law in this regard is the same, it doesn't depend on skin colour or race.
First ask urself a Americans dominating India or china,after that start thinking patoritic
Idi Amin is a hero
Outsiders not giving back just taking. A monoply. Same as Haiti has suffered.
The same thing on a small scale happens in the hood. People not from there can easily get a business and get rich but dont keep the money or spend it there, or try to help the community, and they hire very few people from the community. Its sadly a parasitic relationship and anyone can see it. They just want to get rich from a community but don't want to give anything back even on the smalest scale.
YOU can see why Idi amin kicked them out.
😂 After That Uganda Has Very Good Economy And Good Government
@@soorajs2644 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@soorajs2644😂😂😂😂
Idi Amin still my hero about Indians
What did he achieve apart from running to Saudi and getting their citizenship till he died there as a coward
😂
Okay
No Ugandan can ever get citizenship in India
Says who? You? There is a proper process by which you can get Indian citizenship. Many people do. Just get married to an Indian, live in India for 7 years and then you can apply for citizenship. After that, swear the oath to Mother India and just like that, you are now an Indian citizen.
@@death_parade
Oh! What if the indian pipo sabotage u from;
1. Not Marrying an indian by culture or any other excuse
2. Not Staying there for 7yrs
"India for indians" u forgot that phrase....
@tugumegilbert4704 Why do you want to marry Indians who are not of your blood or culture? How will you adjust to an Indian wife?! But other forms of social cooperation is certainly possible between Ugandans and Indians. Unfortunately, intermarriage is extremely difficult. The huge cultural gap can't sustain such a marriage.
@@CHUTZPAH-y7t
Why then make marrying an indian citizen a Condition to Citizenship if u well know that its culturally impossible to marry an indian Citizen.
Besides, Stronger Racist Laws like in South africa & US have all been banned...., They too had their explanations then for those Racist laws.
@@ug.nationalistMarrying Indian is not a condition for citizenship. Living for a certain period of time and knowing one of the official languages is.
Also, having and sustaining an Indian wife is very very difficult for non-Indians. Are you willing to sacrifice your food habits, change your religious practices, face nuances of the caste system, too many rituals, buy too much gold for your wife, be okay with your kids following different religions and speaking different languages etc?
An Indian woman would not be okay marrying others unless she gets these liberties. Even in western world, mixed Indians almost always have Indian part as a dominant one. The US Vice President's mother was Indian, father was black. Now their 3rd generation kids including her nieces and their kids all have Indian Hindu names. Even my own ethnicity has some Portuguese great grandfathers. But our great grandmothers who married foreigners completely absorbed their husband's cultures and it vanished overtime. We hardly have any Portuguese and are fully Indian now. Are you willing to pay that price for having an Indian wife? Your own heritage will be lost among your descendents.
African 😂😂😂
indians were part and parcel aswel as beneficiaries of the Colonial Project in uganda......., When Colonisers were forced to leave Uganda, the White man instead, for his own benefit, handed Uganda's Resources i.e economy, Properties and Big Jobs to his indian friends of British Nationality/Passport hence compromising independence;
Recall; uganda by that time was more of a Socialist state as per Obote's "Common man's charter" with all resources owned by the Gov't..,
By this, independence was not complete as per the african Desires..., But a change of Guard.
After the Expulsion (Real independence), All those properties and those that were acquired by High Ranking Uganda government officials of indian/foreign origin as a result of Corruption and Embezzlement were supposed to be confiscated by govt as well, as it will be the case Now after Sevo rule..., No foreigner is Demanding Uganda Govt whatsoever in that regard......, All Those initial 10,000 properties(i.e All Properties & Factories in Ugandan Towns then) should be re-nationalised again including Busoga sugar factories as they were supposed to be handed over at independence Day.
You know what Uganda's problem is? Ugandans resent Indians. You lot kicked out Indians once before. Now only a few are still left. Now when Indian companies and Indian Nationals who have nothing to do with Uganda's history come to invest in Uganda, they get the same harsh treatment.
This hatred against even new Indian entrants into Uganda is illogical and while it is to no detriment of India if one puny nation with a GDP as small as some Indian cities decides to kick Indians out, the reverse is not true. If Uganda can't protect interests of foreign investors, it will receive no foreign investment and keep languishing at this same level forever.
@@death_parade
The problem of uganda since creation has always been identifying what belongs to Uganda as a Group of pipo and how to manage foreign investors, Stopping them from exiting all profits and Raw materials...,
The accomplices in dealings i.e indians and local politicians are scape goats of a weak system.
@@death_parade Yeah, yeah, if India is so great what are you doing in Uganda???
@@bekisiphotshili2566 I am not in Uganda. Curb your self-importance. Think logically. At the end of the day, developing nations need foreign investment to thrive. No nation has gone from developing to developed in the post-WW2 era without foreign investment.
@@death_parade No we don't. We are not even a developing nation... Developing nation are these without any resources, such as India. Emptying your bowels in the streets of Mumbai. Yikes!!!
Is it possible the africans dont want to do this work? Perhaps educate the african children from young age. Prepare them to be future managers of their land.
Also tell them to concentrate on work and not to take rests all the time. Indian companies in Uganda want to recruit Ugandans but sadly most of them are extremely lazy
These lectures are nothing there should a clear Government Policy to include Ugandans in this Economy.
This entire news report has questionable authenticity given the stupid, factually incorrect statement displayed at 10:53 . That statement insinuates that Indians can hold Indian and Ugandan citizenship at the same time. But everyone knows that India does not allow dual citizenship, so in the eyes of the Indian government, you can either be a Ugandan citizen or an Indian citizen, not both. So this news piece is lying about this one fact. How many more lies are hidden in this news report?
No😂
We should get another idi Amin to chase them again 😂😂
Ngenda olwe amatako nga mama wo
@@kashq1667 ggwe genda olye amanege ga kitaawo
@@florence2563 nawe ngenda okombe emana ya jajja wo ewunya
Your country will be doomed
instead of learning business acumen and growing together you are busy Hating your own people , indians were bought as indentured labour slaves by british ,so they too were slaves , Ugandan people are portraying Indians as they were british posh rich traders invading Uganda, india was also colonized btw , indians have that business aptitude , for thousands of years they have been doing business, during colonial rule they also learnt some skill to earn money , and british used those slaves to build infrastructure all around the world
Ugandans, please don't be so foolish, as a black person, in India you cannot even open a simple corner shop
False. It’s difficult to start for everyone
Ugandans are still poor.
Ideology driven blame game. Enjoy your new Chinese friends.
A great good fortune for Asians to leave Uganda. Thank you Idi Amin.