This was a genuinely useful video - more from this guy! Well-scripted, edited and informative. Thanks for the upload! I suck at manipulating creep and tower aggro, and I need to work on this. It's also useful for supports you want to harass the enemy offlaner.
BTW, if the enemy creep wave has multipe targets to hit (e.g. your allied creep wave), if you target with your auto-attack any enemy hero on the map when you're within 500 range of enemy melee creeps, you draw them to you and they will try to attack you for 2,3 seconds and the cooldown is 3 seconds. So you can attack an enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro if you do it when the 2,3 sec is over. Another way of not getting attacked by creeps is : when you're out of the 500 range, you can target with an auto-attack a enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro, but the creep aggro goes on cooldown for 3 sec. If I'm not wrong, you have 3 sec to hit the enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro (I just tried it in demo mode so I'm pretty sure about that). Try that in demo mode !
Like I said, if you click the enemy hero as if you were tryna auto-attack him when you're more than 500 range away from melee creeps, you have 3 sec to attack the enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro to you (the enemy creeps will keep attacking your creeps). So you can maybe hit 2-3 times if you're ranged. If you're melee, maybe 1 or 2 max (phase boots)
yep fought about that too while he talking all the time about sidestepping the creeps i was thinking when does he mention that.. anyway is a good guid for 4ks but nowdays theres more important about 3v1 mid scenarios
For anyone wanting to have a better teammate you need to change your behaviour Because it is said that they have a hidden pool that counts a users attitude They are counted in low priority reports so good luck on finding a teammate
Dude I have a positive conduct report but my teammates are still on a lower level than me on average. Huhuhuhuhu. I'm hoping that this concept of yours will be added to the game.
I usually played support from my 4 - 5k till now i still ancient 2 . I still watch this type of guides to understand more of the game i just start playin 2016 i originally play cs go and fortnite . Thanks for this guide it usally help me and some thnk that im a dummy acc lol pls guide on stacking nxt multiple stacking thanks
Well, sucks that i just knew the range creep have more exp. Thanks for the guide! I'll try to make sure my range creep didnt die on enemy hand and get the last hit of range creeps once i aggro the creeps
well i dont know if this is sarcasm or not but i won lane against sniper with huskar, now i know mines could be a problem but i dont think techies can beat huskar
To counter huskar just pick Timbersaw or Necrophos, timbersaw with his skill 3 can against, and huskar can be easily killed by timbersaw combo. And necrophos, just press W, Q, or when farm Necrophos' skill 3 aura further than Huskar attack range so you can harass him without getting hit, and don't have to fight with whole his hp, just wait for 40% then buff until. Or BB with skill 2 also powerful
I can use that aggro-to-the-side-of-the-river technique against kunkka and templar assassin; i did not utilize that before. But i think its a bad idea against viper tho. Sad.
Akash Sridhar yeah man. I think zeus can beat him in lane but then again, those shrapnels keep cancelling your clarities and bottles. Medusa can keep him away with mystic snake. Well, it all boils down to the player's techniques and skills in the end.
what you called orb walking is actually called studder stepping your attacks! orb walking is when you use your attack modifying abilities such as silencers glaives of wisdom to attack without drawing aggro.
if youre on sea server, even if you play mid pretty well. your sidelanes will fuck up and blame you in late game. even when you visit them and get kills they will still fuck up. and when you tell them strat guides like in other game leap vids on how to farm or how to rotate they say stfu and farm the jungle
Great vid, except orb walking is not orb walking if you don't have orb attacks? I guess orb walking would be a correct term on Viper but not on a Mirana auto attack.
1 thing i learned from this that it didnt work on low skill brackets, im using qop and win the mid lane and enemy keep ganking me but in the end my carry blame me for being useless meanwhile all his item was only bkb that worth mentioning and he said that "im not a carry" (hes using DK)
ijed The tower had already targeted an allied creep instead of Mirana. So if the targeted creep dies, the tower will begin to attack Mirana. Tower won't change targets, except when a tower attacks a hero then that hero attacks (some kind of denying) his allied creep then the tower will target the allied creep that had been attacked by the hero instead.
im always playing meepo with stout shield. i keep on tanking their attacks cause i know i got a stout shield +good armor and they always end up with low hp. feels good man. then when im lvl 3 i can kill them easily 😂😂
Harsh Jha because it would make your Hero attacking slightly faster than just stand and attack. Maybe it wont give any effect on late game but when on early game it is quite crucial
And it makes a world of difference when playing against for example a pudge, because if he hooks you you will most propably die. Still opponent is much easier to hit
Joel Almeida are you in the offline or against the aggressive enemy offlane? If you are safe, should probably go trilane with pulling neutrals. They won't likely tower dive you 3v2.
No, the tower had already targeted one of the creeps. But when that creep dies, it immediately starts attacking Mirana, because she is attacking Storm.
No problem, glad to be of help. No, towers never change their aggro EXCEPT if they are attacking a hero and that hero attacks a friendly creep, then the tower will attack that same creep. It's a very useful mechanic to save yourself when you are under fire :)
i always lose with TA vs Sniper. its hard to harass him with my low atk range despite my damage and especially against his long range and shrapnel burning through refraction. Can someone plz give me advice against snipers?
TA compensates her lack of range with her Psi Blades, if you can master the angles it shouldn't be hard to harrass people out of lane with her, since it deals pure damage. Also remember that psi blades work even when denying your own creeps so you can constantly throw long range attacks with her.
The thing I find hardest about TA (asides from aggroing creeps and losing all of my refraction charges) is pushing the creep wave too hard. Psi blades are great, but keeping lane equilibrium is tough because you tend to be doing much more damage to their wave than they are to yours. I often find with TA that I can easily zone the enemy mid, but I can never get the kill.
My story is that i kept playing against insane bots many times before i get to real server because its fun destroying them and i trashtalk them even if they werent real. I played solo mid cuz i know my bot team will bring me down. Now i can destroy them always and have practiced lasthitting against their denies. I went to the real server and played like usual and i got the rank i deserved. Now im struggling, but the trying to be a better player type of struggle. Not the struggle to win with shit team. Bots really lets you learn if you also think i even won with cm carry easily with strategy, timing of kills, and when to back, cuz the other team will destroy me the moment they see me
I think you have orb walking incorrect. Orb walking is using attack abilities like Drow and Viper to not draw creep aggro. Attacking and side stepping is not orb walking.
megavore97 orb walking originated from "orb effects", or the or spell you apply to your attack (minus armor, poison, chill, life steal, etc). Creeps and towers do not recognize these attacks as normal auto attacks and therefore ignores the aggro, hence orb walk.
Yeah, but you are only talking about the orb part, but the term is called orb WALKING. It's the technique of attacking and moving so you can maintain the orb effect on the enemy longest. For example with level 1 frost arrows you can't chase down most heroes with just rightclicking, you need to orb-walk to keep them slowed.
Orb walking is moving after your orb attacks instead of standing still so you can get more hits off (if your enemy is running away from u) or kill your enemy. It's a very old concept, and one of the basics for any 1v1 lane.
ItsMeHammie Erm, he did not use the definition incorrectly either. Although it's not strictly what orb-walking is about, attacking an enemy hero with an ability that used to be an "orb-effect" does not cause enemy creeps to aggro onto you. So, that is true, but yeah, orb-walking is something different from this.
All of this is a bulshit. You just need normal teammates. No matter how you play, when you have roam pudge and offlane medusa it is over. And believe me it is not happening 1 or two times. It happenes 8/10 of games. So 2k-4k is a dead pool. You just cant.
This was a genuinely useful video - more from this guy! Well-scripted, edited and informative. Thanks for the upload! I suck at manipulating creep and tower aggro, and I need to work on this. It's also useful for supports you want to harass the enemy offlaner.
BTW, if the enemy creep wave has multipe targets to hit (e.g. your allied creep wave), if you target with your auto-attack any enemy hero on the map when you're within 500 range of enemy melee creeps, you draw them to you and they will try to attack you for 2,3 seconds and the cooldown is 3 seconds. So you can attack an enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro if you do it when the 2,3 sec is over. Another way of not getting attacked by creeps is : when you're out of the 500 range, you can target with an auto-attack a enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro, but the creep aggro goes on cooldown for 3 sec. If I'm not wrong, you have 3 sec to hit the enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro (I just tried it in demo mode so I'm pretty sure about that). Try that in demo mode !
So you have 0.7 sec to harass the enemy? sorry im not a very good mid laner
Like I said, if you click the enemy hero as if you were tryna auto-attack him when you're more than 500 range away from melee creeps, you have 3 sec to attack the enemy hero without drawing the creep aggro to you (the enemy creeps will keep attacking your creeps). So you can maybe hit 2-3 times if you're ranged. If you're melee, maybe 1 or 2 max (phase boots)
Donald Garon They already covered this in Aggro mechanics video. Check it out for more understanding. th-cam.com/video/ntzynkJfXd4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Donald Garon
yep fought about that too while he talking all the time about sidestepping the creeps i was thinking when does he mention that.. anyway is a good guid for 4ks but nowdays theres more important about 3v1 mid scenarios
For anyone wanting to have a better teammate you need to change your behaviour
Because it is said that they have a hidden pool that counts a users attitude
They are counted in low priority reports so good luck on finding a teammate
Dude I have a positive conduct report but my teammates are still on a lower level than me on average. Huhuhuhuhu. I'm hoping that this concept of yours will be added to the game.
Mam, thank you so much gameleap.
You guys are the best when it comes to dota
thank god finally a guy who can speak normally
I wanna see that moroon doom build
M.shakir 1995 I suppose he had stout shield and 3-4 mangos
lolololol
In this episode we learn: how to zone a level 25 invoker as a level 3 shadow fiend! :)
I usually played support from my 4 - 5k till now i still ancient 2 . I still watch this type of guides to understand more of the game i just start playin 2016 i originally play cs go and fortnite . Thanks for this guide it usally help me and some thnk that im a dummy acc lol pls guide on stacking nxt multiple stacking thanks
Well, sucks that i just knew the range creep have more exp. Thanks for the guide! I'll try to make sure my range creep didnt die on enemy hand and get the last hit of range creeps once i aggro the creeps
Followed this guide and use my herald 2 acc,get 13 win streak . Amazing
get a life noob. smurf ffs
Pick Huskar and spam burning spear that's the best way to harass.
Please. STOP. I dont want to play against that again.
Anant Lunia Sorry I just pointed out that.
Pịc techies, his attack range further than huskar
well i dont know if this is sarcasm or not but i won lane against sniper with huskar, now i know mines could be a problem but i dont think techies can beat huskar
To counter huskar just pick Timbersaw or Necrophos, timbersaw with his skill 3 can against, and huskar can be easily killed by timbersaw combo. And necrophos, just press W, Q, or when farm Necrophos' skill 3 aura further than Huskar attack range so you can harass him without getting hit, and don't have to fight with whole his hp, just wait for 40% then buff until. Or BB with skill 2 also powerful
at 5:50 shines the dota 2 community
Wow, that's actually pretty useful. Thanks
I can use that aggro-to-the-side-of-the-river technique against kunkka and templar assassin; i did not utilize that before. But i think its a bad idea against viper tho. Sad.
what about sniper man? I mean, shrapnel and headshot are pretty annoying to deal with and sometimes force aggro on you because of the slow
Akash Sridhar yeah man. I think zeus can beat him in lane but then again, those shrapnels keep cancelling your clarities and bottles. Medusa can keep him away with mystic snake. Well, it all boils down to the player's techniques and skills in the end.
everything is a bad idea against viper
what you called orb walking is actually called studder stepping your attacks! orb walking is when you use your attack modifying abilities such as silencers glaives of wisdom to attack without drawing aggro.
At 5:46 i got curious at what was doom building
im an avarage player or even bellow but this all seemed so logical it didnt need to be mentioned
Can you please tell me which screen recorded do you use? Thank you
How to harass pro tip no. 1: pick viper
Son Of The Sun 2. Pick 7.00 venomancer feelsbadman
if those two are unavailable, pick Huskar
or huskar
Angelo Huskar is actually not that bad as he loses health as well and early game it doesn't help him
pick clinkz and it will fuck this shit outta viper huskar and veno
Why did the creep move away from puck when puck clicking qop @5:05 ?
clinkz and drow have advantage here
if youre on sea server, even if you play mid pretty well. your sidelanes will fuck up and blame you in late game. even when you visit them and get kills they will still fuck up. and when you tell them strat guides like in other game leap vids on how to farm or how to rotate they say stfu and farm the jungle
Great vid, except orb walking is not orb walking if you don't have orb attacks? I guess orb walking would be a correct term on Viper but not on a Mirana auto attack.
Very nice... More videos from this guy... Get rid of bsj... I'm 3.2k scrub... Very helpful info
when i was support i always do this better than my teammate carry
Now I learn something , ty
WOW VERY HELPFULL THANK MATE
Thnx 4 this😊
awsome guide
useful guide thanks!! :D
1 thing i learned from this that it didnt work on low skill brackets, im using qop and win the mid lane and enemy keep ganking me but in the end my carry blame me for being useless meanwhile all his item was only bkb that worth mentioning and he said that "im not a carry" (hes using DK)
Play mid heroes that scale to late late game, I found that a lot of my games are always 1v5. So I play heroes like Ursa, Luna, MK mid.
Wow I didn’t know this at all.. maybe that’s the main reason for me staying in the 5k mmr
Jeremy Martinez lol,sounds like 1-2k bracket kids talking,any 5k knew n master this,unless ur a pinoy account buyer
What do u mean by "trade"?
Why didn't high ground invo punish that sf in the river?
pretty sure orb walking means attacking someone with poison attack, frost arrows, etc. Attacking and running is called attack-move is it not?
Manu Val orb walking is switching between (example) frost arrow and normal attack to conserve mana
6:40 can someone explain why didn't tower attack him? he clicked on enemy heroes like 5 times
ijed The tower had already targeted an allied creep instead of Mirana. So if the targeted creep dies, the tower will begin to attack Mirana. Tower won't change targets, except when a tower attacks a hero then that hero attacks (some kind of denying) his allied creep then the tower will target the allied creep that had been attacked by the hero instead.
i think there is no orb walking now with recent updates
Thank you :3
watch liquid vs eg ESL Genting! Enough tutorial there
Thanks :D
Pls make a video in how to dominate solo offlane against a trilane in the new patch (when they removed talon >:(.
THE HUMBZ beast master is op in this patch specially offlane
You have to be a god to dominate a trilane with most offflaners. Maybe NP can do it, but most would be happy just getting exp.
Is he saying "Orb blocking" ? or "orb mocking" ? or "orb walking"? Im confused
Or backing
how to move the creeps?
This guide is like teaching you how to eat
Eating gives you energy, make you fat, don't eat and you die
No ahí alguna página donde lo pasen en español o con subtítulos, entiendo algunas cosas y otras no
You don't seem to have any idea what orb walking is
im always playing meepo with stout shield. i keep on tanking their attacks cause i know i got a stout shield +good armor and they always end up with low hp. feels good man. then when im lvl 3 i can kill them easily 😂😂
What’s up with moving the hero while attacking anything? Like even when hitting the creeps or wards, pros keep moving their heroes here and there.
Harsh Jha because it would make your Hero attacking slightly faster than just stand and attack. Maybe it wont give any effect on late game but when on early game it is quite crucial
Al-Kautsar Fajar D. Ah, thank you!
And it makes a world of difference when playing against for example a pudge, because if he hooks you you will most propably die. Still opponent is much easier to hit
Matti Virtanen YeAh, I always keep my hero actively moving when there’s a pudge in the opposing team.
Harsh Jha moving the same direction again and again can be hooked to😉i do that often
Every Midlaner: Harass Midlane
Topson: Harass Sidelanes
Now, how can i harass with my supp a agressive dual offlane?
Joel Almeida are you in the offline or against the aggressive enemy offlane? If you are safe, should probably go trilane with pulling neutrals. They won't likely tower dive you 3v2.
Crystal maiden. first ability
Song pls?
now dis is a guide
B-b-but the pic says offlane..
Jk nice advice u give there
GameLeap np boss :)
Lel
Where is bsj ?
Why puck in mid?
Damn that Doom is a moroon
6:39 the tower wouldn't aim mirana even she is attacking storm? is this the attack and move trick you said?
No, the tower had already targeted one of the creeps. But when that creep dies, it immediately starts attacking Mirana, because she is attacking Storm.
thanks, understood. So tower will target a unit until it dies. I thought tower will change its target immediately when Mirana is attacking Storm.
No problem, glad to be of help. No, towers never change their aggro EXCEPT if they are attacking a hero and that hero attacks a friendly creep, then the tower will attack that same creep. It's a very useful mechanic to save yourself when you are under fire :)
1st tower change attack tho by denying creeps or press a to creeps then the tower will stop attacking you
SuBi BH tower will attack u when u go aggro enemy heroes, try to attack your own creep so tower will 'reset' its attack and randomly attack your creep
How to lane as shadow feind vs huskar.... It almost seems impossible :(...
I get annoyed when TW is in mid...but I think his a gud TW since his good at denying and last hitting which unables my Necromastery
Sweeg' Jigz' u mean ta?
Not as bad as TA vs Viper - a lane that is impossible to win without roaming
try to win ember vs SF in this patch. Laning phase only.
Easy..just disconnect that's all
Roamer is the key of win midlane. tuskar + pudge + potm + shaman + earth shaker + earth spirit + sb roamers are really shit. sometimes roamer tiny nyx is assholes.
5:48 nyx😆
i always lose with TA vs Sniper. its hard to harass him with my low atk range despite my damage and especially against his long range and shrapnel burning through refraction. Can someone plz give me advice against snipers?
Carpezo try to aggro or tell your team to help you.
TA compensates her lack of range with her Psi Blades, if you can master the angles it shouldn't be hard to harrass people out of lane with her, since it deals pure damage. Also remember that psi blades work even when denying your own creeps so you can constantly throw long range attacks with her.
The thing I find hardest about TA (asides from aggroing creeps and losing all of my refraction charges) is pushing the creep wave too hard. Psi blades are great, but keeping lane equilibrium is tough because you tend to be doing much more damage to their wave than they are to yours. I often find with TA that I can easily zone the enemy mid, but I can never get the kill.
I watched alot of 'how to mid' videos, still shit my mid heroes winrate is below 50%. Guess ill just avoid the lane lol
internetsmart depends on your games though. i got 80% winrate in unranked but only bout 50%~ in ranked
My story is that i kept playing against insane bots many times before i get to real server because its fun destroying them and i trashtalk them even if they werent real. I played solo mid cuz i know my bot team will bring me down. Now i can destroy them always and have practiced lasthitting against their denies. I went to the real server and played like usual and i got the rank i deserved. Now im struggling, but the trying to be a better player type of struggle. Not the struggle to win with shit team. Bots really lets you learn if you also think i even won with cm carry easily with strategy, timing of kills, and when to back, cuz the other team will destroy me the moment they see me
Kuroko Tetsuya Give me an example of how you trash talked the bots xD
same problem here. i guess I'll stick to using tanks like BB and Axe 😂😂😂
I think you have orb walking incorrect. Orb walking is using attack abilities like Drow and Viper to not draw creep aggro. Attacking and side stepping is not orb walking.
I think orb walking just means moving after each attack instead of just rightclicking the hero.
megavore97 orb walking originated from "orb effects", or the or spell you apply to your attack (minus armor, poison, chill, life steal, etc). Creeps and towers do not recognize these attacks as normal auto attacks and therefore ignores the aggro, hence orb walk.
Yeah, but you are only talking about the orb part, but the term is called orb WALKING. It's the technique of attacking and moving so you can maintain the orb effect on the enemy longest. For example with level 1 frost arrows you can't chase down most heroes with just rightclicking, you need to orb-walk to keep them slowed.
Orb walking is moving after your orb attacks instead of standing still so you can get more hits off (if your enemy is running away from u) or kill your enemy. It's a very old concept, and one of the basics for any 1v1 lane.
ItsMeHammie Erm, he did not use the definition incorrectly either. Although it's not strictly what orb-walking is about, attacking an enemy hero with an ability that used to be an "orb-effect" does not cause enemy creeps to aggro onto you. So, that is true, but yeah, orb-walking is something different from this.
Oh no, I'm gonna be a Godly invoker mid now. Muwahahahaha
gg4 - a 7800 mmr player 2017
how to counter a harassing in mid
GameLeap++++
how about if u join Dota2 international 🔥🔥
Timber
How to win in the mid lane...
1. Pick Night Stalker
2. Buy a set of tango’s, a stout shield, and 2 mangoes
3. Max you q and win the lane
tldw: creep aggro -- the game
Looking at those storm players remnant positioning's just too awful
nice video background song pleaseV
MMR 7800+?
What MMR???
we dont fucking harass our midlaner, we fucking harass enemy midlane
wtf is this 7 minute and 5 second gameleap ad?
Oh...nvm.
MMR doesn't matter, what's your medal B
aw
ur calling out wrong armor numbers god I am tilting at you
"SAMMYBOY | MMR 7800" why still use MMR?? i need medal INFORMATION
aidil azhar that would be devine 5*. There are conversion tables, look it up. Also, the mmr is still displayed in your statistics window.
day 3 of asking speeed (on this post to prove my loyalty to him and the gals in gameleap😂) to play ogre magi 👹 mid
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Talking about sea players and their wrong plays, when abed was the one who dominates in u.s. servers. Lmao
3yr
This is useless when your team is cancer
Just fucos if you're playing
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no such thing as harasx or dominx or not about it, nonerx
Me mid ty 2tango sea server
Me mid 2 tango 1 ward 1 sentry mine bounty rune pls gank mid-----Sea server
All of this is a bulshit. You just need normal teammates. No matter how you play, when you have roam pudge and offlane medusa it is over. And believe me it is not happening 1 or two times. It happenes 8/10 of games. So 2k-4k is a dead pool. You just cant.
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Tutorial on how to play without any russians please. This shit youre saying wont work if i got ruski on my side. Thanks
Como cuando vees canales de inglés pero no entiendes ni un carajo :'v
Por pobre
another peruvian muted XD
X2
no cuesta nada estudiar un poco de ingles
Go back to your server peruvian
who cares..i just want play dota..😂
primero :)
Srrsly get this dota crap outta ma face. I was looking for league content
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