The part that annoys me the most about this is that the writers WILL win this no matter what but these companies are still going to drag it out as long as they can.
@@DarthObscurityA.I. can only produce writing that's good if there is a human being on the team who has the expertise to differentiate the good writing generated from the bad. A.K.A. Writers...
@@youdontneedthis6804 I have a feeling you don't know much of anything about the grueling work that goes into those roles for comparatively little pay-
@@pannajohns5255ame I literally also just let the tv play & let Drew, Danny Kurtis etc yell at me ab sht they dont like (pro tip:always use playlists so it will just auto-go & *heavily utilize tv sleep-timer if you have one, trust😂) Killed my last tv that way
It's always like that... I used to work at a spa in South Africa. We the therapists work the hardest deal with attitude from entitled clients and the stress of perfection when it comes to nails and waxes. But we got paid peanuts no peanuts are big.. We got paid sesame seeds!😒
I'd rather the computers automate the office jobs. Then again, the office is 90% busywork that would go away with the obsolence of the 40-hour workweek.
This is literally why I feel so hopeless about the world right now. Thanks to the few corporations and people who have their grip on the government and how the US runs, I am terrified of actually pursuing my interests in a career, because I feel like I can be so easily replaced by a machine. Machines aren’t meant to make art. Art comes from the human mind and soul. It’s so grotesque how people are beginning to push for this skewed order of things. It’s terrifying. I’ve heard people say, “if you don’t wanna be replaced by the machines, you gotta work on the machines.” Jeez. What about free choice? What about free market? Why would I want to spend the rest of my life suffering on breadcrumbs and pennies while servicing machines that do the things that we’re supposed to do?
@@ohnoherehego2158 I think there’s a lot to be said about keeping your passions as passions and earning your income through other means. Many artists and creatives who do creative work as a living do deal with burnout because what was once a joy has become work. With that being said, I think the current state of things begs an important question: *How important is keeping the humanity in art to you personally?* If this is important to you, and you feel that you would not be able to see the point of living if you don’t get to manifest the fruits of your creative labor, then put your all into making your creativity your life. You’ll have to work within the system for a bit, but focus on honing your craft, and learning about the system itself so that you can find the cracks in it and find your niche. It’s hard work, but don’t lose hope! If you’re passionate about what you want to do, and you’re in it for the long haul, then it doesn’t matter what’s happening in the world, because you’ll have decided that creativity is your LIFE. I hope this helps!
He's so right about the elementary school teacher thing. It would be awesome actually. Can you imagine how much better society would be if elementary school teachers were paid fairly? I'm actually so angry at the world for that btw
Lol future teacher here, please relax unless you plan to actually do something about it. Nothing is more infuriating than seeing people say things like "omg im so mad about this" only for them to not vote for helpful public education laws. You can literally make a difference if you choose to. Your anger isn't helping us. We are already angry.
@@nomoretwitterhandles hi firstname lastname! I am also a future teacher! We’re currently talking on the internet, where people just say things. You almost certainly cannot tell what someone is doing in real life from a TH-cam comment alone. I definitely hear you on your frustration, but it’s similarly unhelpful to tamper lighthearted comments pointing out an injustice. Why don’t we relax here on the internet as well, and talk about something nicer? I’m real passionate about math and philosophy and I’d love to teach it in the future. What about you? I want to hear what you’re passionate about!
@@nomoretwitterhandles lol current teacher here, please relax unless you somehow speak for the entire worldwide teacher gestalt. It is reassuring to know that, even if they are unable to affect change, that others are upset at our situation, and we may one day be able to convert this into actual change.
Teaching is a fucking hard job. But i hate this typical "anti-authority" society we're all encouraged to support now. "Fuck the pigs! Unless i need them because ive been shot, stabbed, robbed or raped. Dont blame people commiting crimes, its the police that are the scum because ill get likes for posting it on social media!" And that trickles all the way down to teachers. The staggering amount of comments on vids where teachers are caught up in some bullshit and have absolutely no hope of being able to do they jobs youll find people saying the most disgusitng things. "All teachers are useless. They need to be fired. I dropped out in year because my teacher wouldnt let me smoke in class but she wanted me to fail anyway." People finding any reason to justify their own terrible behaviour by blaming anyone with the tiniest bit of authority. Funniest thing to me is its always genuine criminals, like the ones that boast about their crimes that openly hate cops and blame them for being in jail (not the crimes they commit) and privileged middle class whities that have had no negative interactions with police and are the literal first person to call them in any situation. But will slander the ever living fuck out of them onlibe to garner likes from their equality simple minded progressive friends.
meanwhile usa out there spending literally almost a BILLION fat ones on their military while under funding their schools, underpaying their teachers, serving a joke as mid day meal. ill never understand corporate greed and the us society
Yeah, like...it's literally made of code, every single one of them is, and there's a whole damn lot of code to source from! Not only that, but it doesn't have the same issues as writing or drawing where it lacks individualism, because basic code doesn't need to have any! There's also that time Redigit, creator of Terraria, told an AI to write a line of code and mentioned how scarily close it was to writing something coherent, so-
@@damienearl8302 AI is doing a lot better than "scarilly close to writing a coherent line of code" when it comes to writing code. Chat gpt can write simple programs instantly, and they usually do just work out of the box.
What’s weird is the people saying “get a real job” probably have their own favorite shows that they binge watch. They’re calling these people useless while consuming the product they make.
That's what I was thinking. Most of these people no doubt partake in watching movies and shows but yet they'll say that art is useless and not a real job. It's very strange.
As someone who just got a degree in film, it angers me to no end when people think art is an easy job or a lazy profession. It requires so much time, money, dedication, manpower and creative skills.
I hope animators are able to do this at some point. They really get screwed over as well, artists really are tragically undercompensated and underappreciated in the work force
real before the strike writers for animated media have repeatedly been mentioning how they're paid EVEN LESS on their scripts compared to live action ones despite there being no substantial difference to warrant less pay, which should say A TONNNN about the respect of that entire industry receives.
When Drew said sooner we'll only get shows from 22 year olds with rich parents my mind immediately went to Sam Levinson and the on fire trashcan show he wrote to fulfill his porn fantasies also known as The Idol.
Yes, but that is about 90% of the Writer's Guild at this point. Let it burn down so that it can be re-made better. Imagine that this strike creates the opportunity for *actual* competent writers to step in now that they don't have to contend with nepotism writer-activists force feeding us their shoehorned political plot points every film, show, short story, etc.
Pretty impressive how Drew improvised this entire video in the absence of his usual writing team. I hope the strike ends so we can get more videos soon!
I'm a mom with kids in school, and even though it would disrupt my life, I secretly really want all the teachers to go on strike. I hope the writers win, and hope it leads to more wins for those who need it.
It’s honestly amazing there are any teachers at all in the USA. I don’t know if that’s the country you’re referring to but I’m not from there and I only recently learned of their terrible salaries, the threats of school shootings and the abuse they get from students and parents. It’s horrifying. Thank you to all the teachers! 🙌
@@VeronicaGarcia-tl2wb This exactly. It is a good line, but it's not exactly original lol. I do prefer the way he said it but that's just what poetry is honestly.
Theres a weirdly large amount of people completely against the idea of creative jobs. Theyre literally praying on the downfall of artists, writers, and performers for like what reason???
The reason is they’re jealous of their hard work and talent. I myself had a chat with a guy who uses ai because he can’t draw, he tryed but since it didn’t all come at first he gave up.
@@bowen13 the only person responsible for 'gatekeeping' if an individual doesn't have time or talent to do something is themselves. If you want to learn something, you make the time. And we're not all going to be the best at everything, but we can still try our best and give it a shot and guess what! Still enjoy it. Nobody is stopping people from trying. Sure, AI is a cool tool to use to make amalgamations of other people's work, but all it will ever be able to do is copy and compress and imitate. If it makes people feel better then good for them, but don't for a second say that anyone is being prevented or gatekept from sitting down and making art themselves. It's a lazy excuse and provides the foundation for a lot of entitled behaviour, like we all deserve to succeed at everything. That's a very slippery slope.
@@bowen13 Artists are only terrified that corporations see this as an opportunity to cut costs and you know they'll sacrifice quality for a couple pennies. Not only are our paychecks at a threat , but AI is going to stagnate art and significantly slow any development as it continues to regurgitate art already made and without artists consent. While turning away artists from seeking a job in art and continuing to push out art that doesn't produce anything new, you're practically making art a purely corporate experience.
When Drew said " the writers room is getting smaller" I literally thought he meant the room the writers worked in was getting smaller, until he clarified that the amount of writers on staff was what was getting smaller...
Peter Gould is a TV writer whose big break came when he started writing for Breaking Bad in its very first season. After a few seasons (and we can assume some on set experience), he directed an episode. Him and Vince Gillian then teamed up for Better Call Saul and he started directing more episodes, even episodes he didn’t have the writers credit for. When Vince left, Peter became the show runner. The show ended to absolutely critical acclaim despite Vince’s absence. That’s the power of on-set writers
The best thing I saw regarding ai replacing jobs was something close to "we were all really hoping all the shitty jobs nobody wants to do would get taken over by robots/ai so that we could all focus on hobbies and art, but instead we're getting the opposite for literally no reason"
@Gin Andromeda honestly, tech could theoretically replace most jobs requiring unskilled labor- the problem is the hardware is not advanced enough vs the software I think. but there are ones that could theoretically be replaced now, like garbage truck operators, most factory workers and their managers, etc. jobs that are menial and don't require a huge amount of oversight, variation, or dynamic thinking/processing. but people like researchers, creatives, computer scientists, etc are the worst type to replace with AI and tech for the exact same reason. those are jobs that absolutely require an advanced level of education, critical thinking, creativity and adaptability that AI doesn't possess (and there's no hardware to match)
I really don’t understand where the current hatred for the arts and humanities is coming from. Its not even the AI models themselves suggesting they can create poetry (they really REALLY can’t) and whatnot. Its the fact that there’s a really vocal group (I really hope minority) actually ASKING for AI to replace artists and content creators and getting incredibly triggered when its pointed out how terrible that would be. I originally liked the concept of stuff like ChatGPT becoming popular because I thought it might lower the skill floor to highly technical jobs (like game development) while raising the ceiling and allow for much more complex games along with more creative simple ones. I also thought it’d take away some of the less desirable jobs and free up resources for companies to hire people in more positions people WANT to work in and we’d be able to see an increase in people feeling less pressured to pursue expensive educations just to work low skill jobs and people would instead to more free to pursue technical careers and freelance and etc and actually get a job suitable to their degree post graduation. For schools I was hoping the fear would force the education system to revamp and focus on teaching kids how to think and write with personality instead of just following directions and memorizing answers for a test. Also while I’m not trying to say they aren’t worthwhile fields to go into, STEM needs to stop being pushed so hard on kids so early in education. The arts and humanities teach kids how to express themselves creatively, explore who they are, learn how to think and discuss, and so on. STEM is incredibly useful but only specifically if you’re going into those fields and even then not really until university or maybe high school (before then its just memorization you’ll forget). Its not like STEM fields shouldn’t be taught but again not pushed as hard and to the extent they take away from teaching the arts and humanities. I was hoping AI would shift focus back to the Arts and humanities.
When the writer's guild posted on twitter about the strike, I was really surprised to see how viciously negative most of the responses where, but then I scrolled far enough down that the accounts weren't check marked anymore and it was instantly super supportive with people asking how they could support the strike as consumers
of course the Elon Musty Fan Club wouldn't support the strike! the vast majority of Twitter Blue subscribers are bootlickers who want to replace everyone's jobs with AI and will do anything it takes to help the rich get richer and make the less fortunate suffer even more than they already are. they are so out of touch with reality that it's astounding! I would say that it's laughable, but it's also lowkey terrifying tbh. 💀
As a writer in a different industry, writing is entirely seen as the least important. We’re brought in at the last second and told to “whip something up” while they’ve kept us out of the loop on everything that makes up what we’re supposed to write. Still fighting to be a part of the process-and they’re only now realizing how crucial writers and their expertise are.
@@DonnieLouis i'd argue otherwise. writers aren't AS importent. they're the MOST important part of something. because tell me, when's the last time you watched something without caring for the story? for me, the last show i watched without caring for the story was Euphoria. and i only watched that show because of the relatability and the vibes. but other than that, i dont think anyone watches anything without looking at the story. and writers are responsible for the story so them being not compensated enough really makes me infuriated.
Reminds me of a great interview between Conan O'Brien and John Cleese (2 of the greatest writers of all time) where John Cleese talked about writing back in the Monty Python days. He talked about how CEOs and Share Holders don't understand the "writing process". A CEO expects to walk into a room and see every writer sitting at their desk and typing away (like most cubicle/crunch jobs), when reality tells us that's not how writing works. Most the time, writing includes about 45 minutes of wandering around doing meaningless tasks (like sharpening a pencil 15 times) and then morphs in to actually writing for 15 minutes. To most CEOs, they see this as laziness and a lack of "quality production". But THIS is what creativity looks like! It's 45 minutes of mulling over thoughts and getting the engine going, and then spitting the past 45 minutes of culminated thoughts into 15 minutes of genius on paper! This is all to say (and the reason why we have this issue and will continue to have this issue), people like CEOs who are heavily Left-Brain oriented will always struggle immensely attempting to understand the process of the Right-Brain because they just don't think like that. Thus presenting the issue of writer's being looked at as numbers, and not as important pieces to the success of a product (this goes the same for inventors/engineers who's creativity tends to get disrespected)
i, too, am tired of constant remakes and rehashes, have been for years, but not once have i thought the writers were at fault. common sense clearly tells us that execs and studio heads are the people pushing these remakes, not the writers. furthermore, i have no clue how people think ai would fix this lmao bc ai is literally just a machine with no original ideas. how hard is it to just pay writers smh also there are so many good original shows and movies out there (new spiderverse is fucking amazing and mindblowing), and i also choose not to watch things i don't like? it's literally that simple lmao
Couldn't have said it better I see so much attention thrown at little mermaid when everyone already knows it's bad and mediocre and everyone complains about all the bad movies but keep paying for them so companies keep making more bad movies. It's like a machine pay for what you want to see.
People keep focusing on the Hollywood remakes so intensely that they don't realise we're in a golden age of TV right now. Some of the best, most well-written shows have come out/ended in the past few years!!
@@DameOfDiamonds yeah you're definitely as cringy as your name says lmao The writers aren't all-powerful beings in absolute control of what the shows end up being. A lot of them are pressured to make rush decisions, or have their good ideas discarded, by THE STUDIO HEADS AND THE EXECUTIVES. Did you even watch the video? Drew explained how bad writing is constantly the fault of the higher ups. Anyone who calls themselves a "weeb" is such a loser
let's not pretend writers are forced to take these jobs. if everyone who worked on a project deserves a % of the profits when it succeeds, then they also deserve a % of the blame when it fails.
People never fail to amaze me in how they undervalue the workers that are the lifeblood of a system. It reminds me of an anecdote where the janitors and sanitation workers at a hospital wanted better working conditions and pay, and the hospital refused so they went on strike. The hospital was in complete CHAOS within a single hour, and those workers got all of their demands. Everyone loves to lick the boot until they realize they’re being crushed beneath it without the work of thousands of “unknowns.”
"lick the boot until they realize they’re being crushed beneath it" Cringe, do you really have to use that terminology for an otherwise good point. It's beaten to death now.
As someone who is currently going to school for screenwriting, the amount of times i’ve heard people tell me that AI is going to replace my job by the time i graduate is insane. the artists, writers, animators, designers, etc who are willing to take a lower paycheck because they love what they do need to be protected and yet it seems like they get screwed over at every opportunity. idk how it’s possible for production companies to continually ignore the value of the creative people they employ. Thanks for talking about this, i hope this strike succeeds
@@99Plastics my guy with that pfp and username u look like ur about to tell me how to mine etherium. Sit tf down, you couldnt even get an interview at starbucks.
edit: im officially a fucking idiot and forgot to mention the first reply- i was using @SynthwaveHyena’s logic. i support writers, im using their shitty ideas to tell them that ai will only boost shitter movies Hope you cope harder when Disney releases the 23rd toy story because without writers they can do anything they want, and its mid because ai combines things together to make a product, not make a new product. sorry bro, but remakes and reboots will be everything in media if ai can replace writers. why try to create something new when you can just ask chatgpt to make a reboot and make more $$$ of the same franchise?
They are so foolish for thinking consumers won't notice or will be ok with the quality decline of work without writers, animators, etc or if they try to use AI.
I'm a writer and loath ChatGPT with my entire being. All my life, I've tried to have a talent. Something I''m good at. Something I can bring to the table and help with. I love writing stories and characters and entire worlds for others to see, and I've grown confident in my skills(room for improvement, ofc). To see everyone flock to an AI system is just gut wrenching. I finally found something I know I can do well, and it is quite literally being ripped away from me.
I'm afraid of it but also excited to see what things like it could do in the future for people who aren't corporate suits looking to make even higher profit margins.
It's crazy how the same crowd of people who all whine about how modern music is all bland and autotuned are immediately falling to their knees in worship of an online fridge magnet collection the plagiarizes real artists' work. I know it's apples to oranges, but it still makes my head spin.
@@hajidle My god! How did none of us think of this before?!? We'll just John Henry our way out of the automation of the arts! Because that turned out so well for him
treating underpaid writers like they’re apart of billionaires in hollywood is like thinking a walmart cashier is rich because they work for a billion dollar company
no, it's like treating them that ''orangemanbad'' jokes just aren't funny anymore. Only 100,000 times you can say ''orangemanbad'' and get laughs. What a shame. Oh how i pity them.
I'm a visual effects artist. When people say "we'll fix it in post," I'm "post." We're also being effected by this strike and have similar scenarios where we're hired for a short time, do a ton of work, then we're laid off for 6 months until clients decide to send us another project and the studio needs more artists to work to death. This industry is brutal and it's very hard to depend on your income for long-term. It's not something they talked about when I was in school and it was a very sad and hard lesson to learn.
I am so sorry to learn this, keep you head up dude and if you can please fight for your rights and unionize! I am a hobby writer, studying to code so this particular strike hits home on both fronts. People don't realize how garbage AI is, with it's hallucination problems and generating data based on existing data. It has potential to only automate things which are structured. People can't be replaced, so it's about damn time we start treating them better.
This plague has been going for ages now. Movies being made in less than 2 years (from scripting to the theater), and many scenes only taking 1 day to record sounds like a bunch of shit being thrown and hoping something sticks... And many artists cane out about this. Really hurts how this, for the longest time, doesn't sound like it has an end...
I have heard they put unfair time crunches on your departments. Vfx is still art. I've been interested in learning how to become an amateur effects artists, any tips?
I believe it was Steve Carrell who called in sick from filming The Office every single day of the last writer’s strike out of solidarity with the writers, saying he couldn’t come in because of “enlarged balls.” Hoping we see some of that energy from actors this time around too.
@@breadstore_1 no, the strike happened during filming of season 4, which is why there’s only 14 episodes. Steve Carrell leaves near the end of season 7.
We live in such a weird, warped society where people don't think art should be paid for and supported but still want to benefit from it. They want high quality TV shows to watch but for writers to not get paid fair wages for them. They want art museums and cultural sites to visit, but don't think anyone should get a degree in the humanities and should just learn to code. They have yet to learn that you can't have it both ways.
Exactly, I don’t get the disconnect either. They keep saying they’re sick and tired of reboots, sequels, and remakes but also don’t care to support anything that would incentivize people to create original works that are entertaining and thought provoking. People have gotten so used to quickly served slop that they don’t think about all the work needed to get high quality content. Instant gratification and profit don’t mix with art and long lasting goods.
There's kind of a weird fascist push in the world right now, and a lot of misplaced anger. Assuming the base reason for that is people are having a harder time getting basic needs met. Creativity suffers under that trend...along with a lot of other things. People are scared.
I work in the dubbing industry and I’ve been noticing this problem for the past year or so. For example, every time we have a new show, we start our dubbing process as usual and more often then not, it’s all over the place. We receive multiple new re-shot versions along the way, no one at the production company seems to be sure which version is the right one, the order of episodes, and there are a lot of continuity errors that WE sometimes let them know of. It is wild! It disrupts the whole chain, makes everyone in post work long hours to fix the problem and ends up costing them so much money because they have to pay the reshoots, post-production and if they are dubbing or subtitling in multiple languages, all of that is considered as extra. They end up spending much more money than if they had just let writers do their jobs in the first place. Never fix it in post, guys ;)
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I’m a writer, and although I currently work as a copywriter and not in a creative field like I’d like to, I love how passionate Drew is about cinema and art in general. Writing is wonderful because anyone can do it. Writing is difficult because not everyone can do it well. I love this episode and I hope all the writers on strike get exactly what they’re asking for.
You know why parents proudly display art made by their children? It's not because it looks amazing or because it can't be replicated by a computer. It's because the very fact that it was made by a person - especially a person they care about - makes it meaningful. Not to compare the work writers do to the fridge drawings of three-year-old children, but what makes art powerful and meaningful to me is because - like Drew said - it's a celebration of humanity. I would get more out of a "bad" story written by a human than a "good" story written by a computer. I want to experience what real people, my fellow human beings, are creating! I don't care if it's bad, messy, inefficient, unprofitable, incomprehensible, and not tailor-made to my exact desires and sensibilities. I wouldn't want it any other way. Otherwise, what is art? Just an algorithmically generated product to push dopamine receptors and make billionaires even richer? No thanks, I'll pass.
So what will you do in the future when anyone can generate a well-written story and just pretend they wrote it? The technology is going to get to the point where unless you see the person creating/performing their work right in front of you there will be no reason to believe it wasn't AI-generated.
@@InternetPersons Okay. Just ask them about the story and writing process then as well as their inspirations. If they just generated it they would be dumbfounded and have no answers for you.
@@kingblue2632 I mean all media you consume in general. You're not going to be able talk to every Youber, every musician, or every artist you enjoy. And AI use won't be limited to just people who don't have any talent. It's going to be used by people who know what they are doing as well. If hypothetically someone like Stephen King were to generate a novel that's convincingly like it his writing style he'd know enough about the writing process to convince people he wrote it.
@@InternetPersons So you're afraid REAL writers could speed up their process using AI? Oh, the humanity. Out of all human trends, art in every way has seemed to stay with us no matter your culture or time. AI is temporary.
So glad I'm not on Twitter. Supporting the strike is so blindingly obvious to me, I kinda assumed everybody was on the same page about it. They are literally striking to not only improve their working conditions but to improve shows and the industry in general. So I can support worker's rights and indulge the selfish desire to find awesome tv shows to write fanfiction for? Yes please.
There's a bunch of overpaid dandys that are in a bloated industry that doesn't need them, I don't care. The Simpsons doesn't need 35 writers it needs to end, Kimmel doesn't need 35 writers it should be mostly about the people talking to Kimmel Everyone is only supporting it out of self interest, a "first they came for the Communists, then they came for the Jews" moment that we are watching right before our eyes. (That's an actual quote from Martin Niemoller I'm not just a lunatic anti Semite)
Twitter used to be a funny, occasionally insane place to spend some spare time on. now it's just a circlejerk of whatever Elon Musk has decided the people need to see (often propaganda)
Drew, I always watch your videos before I fall asleep (not because they're boring!) because they're comforting and I love the way you talk about things, I struggle with anxiety, especially at night, and watching your mental health video mentioning panic attacks really made me feel like I'm not alone, watching your videos at night helps me calm down instead of thinking about every mistake I have ever made, so thanks for that. Anyways, I love how you put a lot of work into your videos and I hope you know you are a really comforting person to listen to.
I hope this strike doesn't just stop with the writers. I want to see animators unionize and strike, vfx artists unionize and strike, show runner, makeup artists, etc. I want the entire tv/movie industry to grind to a halt until all the people who go into actually making the tv shows and movies amazing are treated with the respect they deserve. I hope it doesn't stop in america. I hope we see this happen world wide. I hope the manga and anime industry go through the same thing. I hope the heads of the company realize that they will make the most profit and have the happiest audience when *everyone is treated well* and are allowed to have complete creative freedom
I hope it doesn't stop with the entertainment industry, either. Practically everyone who earns a wage/salary in today's world has good reason to strike.
I just really want to applaud drew for being Funny Commentary TH-camr while also helping bring attention to workers rights, and the writers and artists behind all the things we love. This is the stuff we should all be caring about right now (especially if we want to continue having any creatively fulfilling entertainment/art to consume)! I'm just happy to have the inventor of youtube on our side
Yeah. Drew needs to stop using Twitter. No AI will write the next Breaking bad. Nobody deserves a creative job, but those that do should be paid fairly. Poor movies with good potential sucks.
@overlordfemto7523 Because mistreatment of workers in one industry is obviously just in a tiny little vacuum and not indicative of any larger issue whatsoever. Nope. Nosiree.
@Femto Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were the arbiter of things people are allowed to care about. Please provide us with a list so we don’t make the same mistake in the future. Make sure “starving children in Africa” is at the top to really drive home your point.
@@cartermilan Why do you assume that this doesn’t affect us or people that we know? Why are you unable to see how this is indicative of a widespread societal problem?
I missed angry Drew rants. He’s so unbelievably funny and makes so many valid and amazing points. Thanks Drew glad to see you back!! Maybe get a tile so you don’t lose your keys again! Or buy some floaters for the swim next time!
i doubt anyone will see this but seeing such a cool creator like drew speak up about this is so cool. ive no experience working as im underaged but ive spent my life on art and was devastated by ai and the possibility of it taking over. i genuinely teared up a little bit when i heard him support workers in the creative field. this was a really uplifting video :)
I saw this. I'm a professional artist who teaches art to children and adults, so I want impart some of my wisdom onto you. 1) You say yourself that you are underage. You have yet to spend your life on art. Try not to stress too much, and enjoy your time being a kid. Childhood is temporary, but art is forever. 2) If you're an artist to seek validation, you're not alone, but don't expect what you crave. You don't need people like Drew to stand up for art. Us artists and art lovers already know AI art is terrible and we don't like it. But we also have trained eyes, so we can tell if something is AI generated or not. We love art for the heart and soul, not for the "perfection" that AI art fails at being capable of producing. Your options for being an artist will never go away. 3) If you're still worried about AI art taking over, just get better at art. I know that sounds silly, but it's true; AI art can only reproduce a bunch of things it has been given, and it's usually always messed up. AI struggles with hair, hands, collarbones, and details (such as eyes and eyebrows or tattoos and clothing wrinkles). Practice what AI sucks at, and your art will stand out. Or just be completely original; add a bit of abstract to your artwork. I don't mean Jackson Pollock levels of abstract (unless that's what you want to do), but even surrealism can boost your originality. Just remember, one of the oldest paintings we ever managed to find was hidden in a cave. It wasn't any Mona Lisa or Statue of David, but it is amazing in its own right. Humanity speaks through art, and if you're not speaking through your art, you're just painting.
Don't worry, AI art is just a fad. An annoying, harmful, and dragged out fad, but still just a fad. It adds nothing to the landscape of art and is designed to fail. I wish you luck on your artistic creations. I can't offer you much advice or help since I just began my art career not to long ago, it's tough but so rewarding and creatively fufilling.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesI just watched this video and am so glad I came across this comment. What you said about the humanity shining through is beautiful. It’s so heartening to read the comments on this video because sometimes it feels like I’m alone in my views on ai art.
Drew’s rant about how movies and tv shows are important and impactful BECAUSE humans made them is so validating and ironically enough put exactly into words what I’ve been thinking for so long but couldn’t quite explain. No matter the medium or genre, having *human* writers are the reason that so many people can come together and feel less alone - making an “advanced” ai would suck the life out of literally every aspect of that.
I especially hate the argument that Hollywood is creatively bankrupt with nothing but remakes, sequels and recognizable properties so why shouldn’t chatgpt replace writers? Because not only is automation making films mediocre, but even remakes and adaptations require a lot of writing and human input from concept creators. Good example: the Super Mario Bros movie. Sure, a Mario plot is pretty simple. But the concepts of the mario world are complicated to translate to screen. So you need a writer to incorporate world building into the story elements using familiar Mario elements. You need storyboard creators and concept artists to design scenes and backgrounds, making sure those elements make sense, like how would the mushroom kingdom’s logic operate on screen or how would a level look in a landscape? And of course you need animators and graphic designers to make it all happen. If you had AI do it, it might look like Mario, but it won’t act like Mario. Same goes for Marvel, Star Wars, Disney remakes, DC, fast and furious, and every other major franchise. Nostalgia only works when it is made carefully. It’s like pizza. Sure, we all love a great pizza made to perfection at a restaurant or higher end pizza place. But sometimes we just need something to tie us over and is cheaper but familiar, like Little Caesar’s or a frozen pizza. It tastes like pizza and looks like pizza. It’s not the best but it’s satisfying and you know someone actually made it. Nobody wants gas station pizza. You don’t know where it came from, how it was made, and you don’t even know that it’s pizza. That’s ai
idk bro if AI ever advances to where it can make better scripts than human writers, as a consumer the choice is pretty simple. But that's at least a decade or two in the future. Right now writers should be able to reap and enjoy the benefits of their work. If we can make a tool that can generate content leagues more unique and entertaining at a far faster rate than humans every could, why wouldn't we? The whole "sucking the life out of art" argument is so redundant and pointless. If you like a piece of media, you're gonna like it regardless of if it was generated by AI or human, that argument feels like what Charlie's father in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory would say about robots screwing caps onto toothpaste tubes
considering we have absolutely zero instance of a movie written by ai and produced typically, your aspiration that "having human writers are the reason that so many people can come together and feel less alone" is a completely untested hypothesis. we are still at the early birth stage of AI development and usage. this is a tool that democratizes so many difficult jobs, making them much simpler to do/learn. this demonization by creatives labeling all AI generated creativity plagiarism, as if all artists don't develop their own creativity by studying prior art every day. it's complete hypocrisy.
@@kingkarlito at the end of the day, using AI or bots can be expensive, ChatGPT is an AI that created specifically to assist in writing, yet even he can make grammar mistakes, create non sense and boring stories etc. If AI gonna take over the world, they would have long time ago. We now have Google, machines making our foods etc, but we still need humans. If AI and robots can take over the world, jobs like cashiers, front desk jobs etc would no longer exist. Yet they still exist, AI wont take over the world-- at least not around 50 or even century later. Unless we can be like Japan, where bots and machine are favored.
@@Amodh1257 what you're describing is impossible. an AI cannot, and will never be able to write original works of fiction, with elements of theme or philosophy or human understanding. to achieve the level of complexity and quality you are taking for granted, AI would need to literally be a sentient being capable of thinking and exercising free will. that's fiction, the same fiction you've been consuming your entire life, the very idea that an algorithm can surpass a human being is a literary device, it's a trope that goes back several decades. humoring this idea, art is a human construction, it is a form of expression and communication, it's primary function is as a link between people. an AI, fundamentally, cannot achieve this. there is no personal background to consider, no lived experience, no actual opinions or contemplations, no commentary track explaining WHY certain decisions were made. there can be no why to art if there is no human being, as human beings are uniquely aware and interested in meaning and purpose, an AI cannot ask questions, it can only give answers. i really don't know how much clearer i can make this point, i can't even really parse where this mindset of yours comes from, have you just never consumed a piece of art before? i feel like the purpose and value (not monetary value) of art is self-evident
Additional point: writers *want* to create new original art but studios will literally not fund them. They'll reject new pitches in favor of stuff they already own because it's cheaper to make and that's how we get Disney slapping a brand new coat of shiny high gloss doo doo onto 30+ year old perfectly good 2D animated features.
And people keep paying to see it.If lion king live action remake didn’t make a billion dollars they would stop making them. The average movie goer wants what they know
i’m currently in school studying screenwriting and media. the wga strike is not just important for current writers in the industry, but also for future writers that are second-guessing their chosen career path because of the horrible treatment writers get from industry bigwigs. thanks drew for talking about this and i hope folks learn from this video.
Writing has basically been my whole life, and I was so excited to potentially get into the industry: even anywhere in film and tv, but since wages have tanked below the mariana trench I'm probably gonna have to shelve that dream. This shit sucks
@@augonaut i feel most bad for those just entering the industry, or writers who've been in it for only a couple of years, cause what they've trained for and likely got a degree in is becoming so unsustainable, financially, as a career
I feel similarly as someone who wanted to become a teacher but chose a different career path purely because of the terrible treatment they receive. No wonder there's a shortage.
The strike just ended today, but now we've got auto workers and flight attendants striking, too. Can't wait to see which industry revolts against their corporate overlords next.
I got my bachelors in screenwriting. Being on set for a feature film I wrote and produced was so incredibly fun, rewarding, and EDUCATIONAL. To take that experience away from writers is such a travesty.
@@pandajesus5052 it’s actually still in production at my school 😄 I just graduated a few months ago. It’s called O’ Brawling Love and it’s a rom com. Although, because writers basically get no say after the script is bought, they’re probably going to change the name :’(
@@bowen13 That’s such a dumb argument, honestly. Just because there are worse things going on in the world (obviously), doesn’t mean this issue doesn’t negatively affect people. Don’t pretend like you’ve never complained about something that is completely minuscule compared to other problems of the world. Of course you have. Other negative experiences don’t negate your own experience just because they’re worse.
@@pandajesus5052 thanks 😅 it’s pretty basic because our budget was very small. Basically a rom com about 2 people fighting to get a scholarship to go to an acting school. Very enemies to lovers
Even if writers did make a boat load of money, they deserve it. They put the work and creativity into what they do and if a show makes millions, the writers and crew should get a big portion of it
The part that kills me with some people's reactions is they seem to think the writers concerns should be dismissed because they're Hollywood and they get paid a lot but like...they work for that money. They should be compensated for their work.
came back to the video because i love your speech on “human creativity” (14:06) currently working on a huge film project and your speech just resparks my love for film in every way possible. It’s such a beautiful thing that we can create anything we want and tell stories in such abstract ways and I’m so glad that you put it in words that I was never able to. Thank you Drew!
When I heard about the strike I initially had the "don't they make enough already? I mean, they work in show business ffs" reaction and then I took the next step of looking up the average wage of Hollywood writers and accounting for the cost of living around Hollywood and realized that most of them are probably barely making ends meet and then the strike made a lot more sense. I fact checked my assumptions and discovered that they were shallow and inaccurate. Unfortunately, it seems to be very hard for some people to do the same and they'd rather just accept their assumptions as facts and run with them.
My sister is a Hollywood writer and is on food stamps because it’s just so expensive to live out there. She makes so very little writing because she’s just starting her career, but has to live in the area to be competitive.
I agree, unless you’re on top, you’re not making a lot of money in Hollywood. I saw a video from an actress on a popular show talking about her expenses. So much of her money went into her agency, her publicist, tons of the other places to keep up with her career and how little she had left at the end. It makes sense that a lot of these big names in Hollywood have connections or have rich families because I don’t understand how anyone could survive out there otherwise.
@@gracefoster7587 I remember when Danny Pudi (Abed from Community) responded to a claim that he has his own private plane and said that compared to a lot of actors he wasn't making much which makes sense. The idea that everyone in Hollywood is making a 100 million a year is ridiculous
As a creative person, I couldn't agree more. It always bugs me how much people hate artists actually getting paid for their authentic, original ideas. Just because it brings us joy and we're pursuing our passion, does not make us any less deserving to get revenue!
@@ShinyTillDawn only for some time. if ai replaces art, at some point there will be no creative ideas circulating, just the same, equally regurgitated ideas on repeat. because you need humans with unique perspectives and experiences for something truly revolutionary and creative and amazing that speaks to us. I’m not excited for a future which will most likely run itself into the ground after ruining real artists.
@@ShinyTillDawn AI art is for people with no proper eyesight or functioning brain. I can always, ALWAYS tell when something is AI generated. It's a good thing I'm an art critic, because I spot mistakes within seconds. For others it may take a good minute of searching an image to tell if it's AI or not, but I can tell from so much as a thumbnail of the image. AI art will never replace artists. If haters want dogshit art for free, they can have it all they want. Some of us actually ENJOY real artwork.
@@violetbackedstarling Well considering AI art requires human input to even do anything, man-made art will always have a place, especially among people who want tailored pieces. Honestly A.I. art is only consistently good for concepts, filler pieces, and porn. It's not impressive to make, so true art-lovers wouldn't really care for it and not only that, many galleries and shows despise A.I. art with a passion. I am sure there will always be a place for man-made art. A.I. art can easily just be considered the Wall-Mart brand of the art world.
“I like watching TV and movies because they’re a celebration of human creativity”… “turn hard times into art because it’s incredible that it’s even possible to do that” Well said 🤙🏼
One thing that I hope people remind themselves of in a few months is "don't blame the writers". When shows and movies start to turn to shit because of the lack of writers, don't blame the writers. There will be hit-pieces and articles commissioned by the executives to try to make the public turn on the writers... don't blame the writers. Our favorite shows are born from these people's minds. We understand the importance of that. The executives don't. PAY THE WRITERS!
It's the same with everything. When the postal service turns to shit it's not because postmen are lazier than they were 30 years ago, it's because they have one guy doing the job of 3 people now. But the general public is literally retarded and can't see past the of their own nose, so they always think problems with a service must start and end at the front line.
oh nooo not the higher ups underpaying... who coulda seen this coming1!!1 If a show I've been waiting on for more than half my life gets turned to a hot steaming turd pile because of this strike, I don't care who it is, I'm blaming everyone The execs are at fault The writers are at fault The industry is at fault Hell at this point I'm blaming Saturn for not being in retrograde
@@Amodh1257"If a show I've been waiting on for more than half my life gets turned to a hot steaming turd pile.." Based on the Minecraft profile picture, half of your life is only six years 💀
Writers also don’t share the loss if their work ends up being a flop and the movie doesn’t profit. They don’t have any risk, so they miss out on the reward
It kind of makes sense. A streaming service pays for the right to stream your show. Thats about it. And if any more money is made.. its to the distributor. It’s insane
@@donbunson5031the tea lady and cleaners don’t create the actual show. for the camera operator it’s complicated, but for people like the writers and animators they absolutely deserve royalties. if a show makes millions of dollars there is zero reason (besides capitalistic greed) not to send the people who created the show a couple hundred bucks each month.
Literally everything that Drew said in this video I cannot agree with more. It's bonkers to me that the same people who complain about Hollywood and them not being original are the exact people who watch nothing but reboots/remakes and sequels, and then wonder why that's all there is. It's also crazy to me how insanely greedy CEO's and high level executives are. I read an article that was talking to Bob Iger of Disney and he's like "it's just so sad how these writers are trying to sabotage the industry like this by striking", like how out of touch can you possibly be? And then he's like "I wonder why all these Marvel and Star Wars shows on Disney+ aren't connecting with people" like hmm I wonder probably because you don't pay the writers and are stretching them too thin? But instead of paying the writers, instead he decides to take tons of stuff OFF of Disney+ (you know, so they don't have to pay people when it gets streamed). It's utter nonsense. I can guarantee the people at all the traditional networks who have a streaming service, and definitely Netflix, Hulu, and all the Netflix-wanna-be apps are the exact same way.
I'm sorry but what evidence do you have that the same people who complain about sequels and remakes only watch those? I complain about them and don't watch them. Boom. Point invalidated.
One thing i miss about being a teen superfan of a tv show, is knowing the names of the writers and getting excited when writers of my fav episodes were the main writers of the newest episode. I would read interviews with writers and analyze how each writer thought differently about this character or that theme. It really made a TV show feel like a community and made me appreciate all the work that goes into shows more. 😊
I wanted to hold his hand and tell him it's all going to be okay. Definetly the most emotional and touching rant I have seen from him. And I am not saying that as if that is a bad thing.
The animation industry is going through the same problems as live action and it's encouraging to see support like this for the writers' strike! I hope we can see something like this for animation soon!
14:29 this is so real - one of my fave movies Mad Max Fury Road is just a jaw dropping unbelievable behind the scenes production. I thought the end product of the movie was unbelievable but the production process behind it is another level. Watching the documentation of production reminded me a lot that the film was made by a team of real artists and craftspeople. The amount of detail put into every aspect is something AI cannot replicate.
Ooooh, where did you come across the production process, if I may ask? As someone who is re-discovering as an adult how much fun the special features of movies are, I’d really like to get back into them. I thought I’d find them on DVDs, but it seems not all DVDs have that extra material.
@rumfordc no it isnt? its a pretty beautifully written movie that manages to tell a clear story about a large cast of characters with pretty much minimal dialogue
one of the most infuriating things is that shareholders and CEOs that are ruining the entertainment industry to "save money", dont NEED to save money????? They have more than enough money to invest in their workers. Thanks for making a video about this Drew!! I'm an Animator and everyone in my industry are feeling a sense of doom when people point at us like because we animated some tv shows and movies, we're like the rich elite when we're literally pinching pennies and going without food to pay rent between contracts.
It's like they have a distorted view of who are the wealthy ones just because they saw a couple nepobaby "artists" get overexposure and they think everyone must be like them.
"If all the teachers suddenly went on strike, their demands would be met instantly." Drew, as an educator this is so funny because teachers literally go on week-long strikes all the time because their demands aren't being met.
Teachers and even doctors are striking in the UK at the moment and their demands definitely are not being met. Instead the government just demonises them in the mainstream media.
@@himenyx153 Good luck finding all those teachers on a good week, financially speaking. And the general public is already disgustingly apathetic to every service job imaginable, there's no way a teacher's strike of that magnitude would really make a difference.
Not every single teacher. A couple of schools max going on strike is what ever. But if everyone at any job all decided to stop working at the same time, the owners would be forced to meet the demands.
On behalf of a writer, not even one in Hollywood, thank you. You’re saying everything I’ve been preaching to every single person I know, absolutely genius.
Drew your take on AI makes me feel so much better as an artist. It feels like so many people are drolling over software while degrading the people that software feeds off of and sometimes it brings me to tears man. The fact at least someone out there cares really means a lot to me
Same. As someone who's dream is to able to make a living out of my writing, all the things around A.I and especially the way most people observe it is just terryfing for me. And out of all of Drew's videos, that was probably the most emotional and powerful one for me
the thing is they should be used as tools to gain inspiration, like no one should rely on chatgpt to write a compelling story but a conversation could spark the idea that makes the script come together, just like no one should really upload what they get dall-e to generate, but it could give you inspiration to do something that is yours. no matter what the con artists say, and by con artists i mean the ones suggesting that all you need to make a book, game, comic, cartoon or movie is access to openai
I genuinely think shows like Community are a really good example of how important writers are. Community uses elements of classic sitcoms which makes it an incredibly comfortable show. However, there are also so many references, ridiculous plot points and so many moments of pure childish and lovely moments between characters that a computer simply could not create.
All the shows people respect had abusive creators. Dan Harmon and Greg Daniels created long, unpredictable hours and tentative situations with lying or being unreliable just to produce a product for their own vision. It's really cool how hard the writers worked, but let's not forget the needless abuse they went through
As a WGA member who's been picketing on and off for the past 2 weeks, this was INCREDIBLY cathartic to watch. Thanks for speaking up like this, Drew! All the supportive comments are super encouraging too - thanks y'all ❤
@@MaskedMadmann Funnily enough fighting multi-billion dollar corporations for better work conditions, compensation, residuals, healthcare, and creative ownership IS actually a grown-up thing to do, but thanks for your concern - it's adorable.
@@gabbinks WGA writer here as well -- keep fighting the good fight and ignore the bootlickers who don't understand that labor strikes are why they can, you know, retire one day
The fact that people assume every writer is rich because they create these amazing works that generate billions of dollars is honestly a testament that people think they should be the ones profiting.
The whole complaint about there being too many sequels and reboots is irrelevant to the writer's strike, anyway. It's not the _writers_ who are deciding to retread old ground, it's the executives and other higher-ups. Sabotaging the writer's strike and/or replacing writers with AI will only make the "too many sequels" problem *infinitely* worse.
Honestly. If they're complaining that they don't see any original ideas, I don't know that "robot who is explicitly fed existing ideas" would change things in any positive way
Exactly! As I told someone else earlier, I'm really not sure how they think Chat GPT and the like will solve the issues of movie concepts becoming stale- Like, I don't think the producers are just itching to come up with new ideas, but the writers are just like "but what if Shrek 5?!", and with that in mind...well, what do we think is *really* gonna happen when the people most likely to benefit from being able to pump out several of the same movie at a rapid pace gain that ability?
Also goes for the woke comments. Writers seldom choose the path of "and xe is also a NB fem presenting lesbian, biracial and in a wheelchair," those nudges come from higher up because it gets people feeling strongly one way or the other and that's the best free advertising.
it’s really sad how consistently marginalized the arts are in the sphere of workers rights, im an artist and to hear people say all the same shit about museums is so incredibly frustrating and shortsighted. they’ll consistently consume the media we create, yet in the same breath will devalue it. artists are workers too!!
@@casadastraphobia I'm just pointing out that it's a bigger problem than just with writers, your little rhetorical technique doesn't apply here. I never devalued the strike or writers.....
@Bono Larusso I work in workforce development and the arts industry is definitely one of the most broken and lowest paid, at least in my country. All workforces have it rough, but the creative industry is something else
Animation has been going through the same thing for longer but with no sign of help or many advocates for change/help. I hope the WGA is successful again and eventually animators can join the WGA because storyboard artists are also script writers.
Animators guild publicly endorsed WGA very early in the strike. I hope there will be some reciprocation. Animators aren’t as pervasive in the industry as writers, but if animators and VFX were to strike simultaneously, Marvel/Disney would collapse.
Animators have been supporting other unions through it all - the IATSE negotiations, the WGA strike, etc. I’m proud, but also a bit bitter that during the TAG negotiations there wasnt any fanfare around it. The gig economy is killing us too, but just bc the most popular animation is “ugly” adult shows and “junk for kids”, it’s less respected. The gig economy is coming for us all, and the fact that I’ve been working on amazing shows and constantly being promoted, yet still need roommates to just live in a tiny apartment (only to get laid off as they cancelled our show) is infuriating and degrading.
@@kit2635 I had a whole graduating class of college classmates from Texas, we realized none of us were ever going to use our animation degrees because the state of the industry is so economically and structurally inhospitable to anyone who can't come in and deliver perfect results immediately and also have the money to move to LA and live there. Had to change our entire career plans immediately after graduating.
When my wife and I were still together, I was resigned to the fact that my programming-AI is coming for programmers, too-and CAD skills would support us while she pursued animation. We’re living in a system that survives on modern slavery. I’m ashamed to be surprised that it’s coming for the rest of us.
thanks! I'm a 3D artist and I cant find work at the time due to the WGA strike going on (studios arent hiring since there's less work), but I am totally on their side and I am celebrating that VFX artists at Marvel are starting to unionize too!! The entertainment industry can be rough
I'm not a writer but, as someone who studied art to become a game artist, we are in the same position and I want to thank you for this video I felt depressed for the last few months, since ai """"art"""" became a thing and seeing how some don't seem to value us at all, so seeing someone support and talk for us is so refreshing
Definitely sending you love. You can enjoy ai art, but I think what really makes art cool is the personal touch. Everyone has a different style and I love it.
This video is a great breakdown of why we need the arts, writers, and... teachers. We have devalued the arts so thoroughly that people don't even know how to support them right now with the rise of AI. But you're right, if we don't figure this out then goodbye to all other jobs.
imagine if someone said "yeah you couldve easily written BCS with chatgpt and you couldve just asked it to decide which shots to use for which scene i would personally make sure they will never see the light of day if they said that out lout
Arcame is a great example of what TV could be like. It took 6 years to create 1 season, they never cut corners and ensured that the animators/writers/producers were treated well. In the end they created a masterpiece, with a highly anticipated second season to come. Granted Riot have a bigger budget than most, but I think the point still applies.
Arcane inspired me to completely overhaul the story I've been developing since I was in middle school (I'm almost 22 now) the impact it had on my creativity and thought process is not to be understated. I felt like my third eye open with how effective the writing was.
I think drew really hit a very good point on the head. Even *IF* AI could fully write and produce a TV show. I don't want to watch it. Part of the worth comes from the human aspect of creation. Seeing the real people who made a show is always and amazing part of the experience. ( *cough cough* visual art too, coming from someone who wants to work in an artstic field)
@@Pugkin5405 "Human creation" and "human aspects" are different. An AI can write dialogue, but a PERSON has to read it so a PERSON can film it so a a PERSON can edit it. AI can't do all that. And if they can in 20 years, who fucking cares? We can do it now. We will STILL be able to do it in 20 years.
@@RSmith-qd2uk PlagiaristBot's creative writing is never going to be more complex than a high schooler's summary of someone else's work. It's all "X and Y go on adventures and live happily ever after".
I love that statement “everything is a remake”. As we see with the HBO/ Discovery merger that led to so many original, unique stories being pulled; also how we learned why the Star Wars trilogy artistic choices were inconsistent: it’s not the creatives but the companies. The same way we notice the nepotism in front of the screen, it’s happening behind it as well. AI is a profit line as remakes and franchises used to be sufficient but the audience no longer wants. Those who want AI still come with the belief that STEM and algorithms are superior to everything yet they balk at having to learn social sciences as to why sooner rather than later, we aren’t computers. This was a great video. That’s all.
The comment about "what if all public school teachers went on strike at the same time" is actually something that happened. In Arizona, during my last year of high school in 2019, teachers went on strike because the pay/benefits were (are) horrendous. Multiple schools shut down because nobody was there to teach classes. Some schools had to extend their academic years because they didn't meet the school day quota. The strike lasted about 2 weeks or so and it had a huge impact on the community. It was called "Red for Ed" since people would wear red to show their support. But it seems we haven't even learned from it because we reelected the same governor that year and teachers still get treated like crap.
I interviewed for a desk job at a high school and instead was recommended for a TA job and like babes it's $100 a day only when school is in session. Bullshit!!! Pay educators better!!!!!
Local politics is not given the attention it deserves. They are the people that will touch your families lives more directly than the presidents changes will.
hello arizona homie i am equally frustrated with how our state treats education and im glad to see a fellow arizonan who still cares! it seems like everyone put the stickers on their car and bought the red shirts and them promptly forgot all about the actual teachers that inspired Red for Ed
My dad works in the arab music industry as a composer. Composers are usually extremely overlooked in Western music, but they're acknowledged and recognized in Eastern places. He always tells me to respect the poets and writers who give him the possibility to compose. Even in the arab music industry, poets and writers are paid next to nothing, there's no clear agency or management for them either, and they have to struggle paycheck to paycheck barely getting the minimum wage. Since my dad's always worked freelance, he tends to pay poets a lot more than what they normally get paid, and so work between them is extremely frequent. It's really sad that people give no real value to those responsible for making everything happen. I mean, show, movie, song, and even book writers are severely overlooked and underpaid. It's not only disrespectful but just shows where your values reside as a human being.
Yeah, I sometimes see original poets/writers commenting on hit songs of big arab musicians that they're happy people enjoyed their lyrics, they'd get maybe 5 likes and that's it, not pinned by the artist, sometimes not even get their names written on the credits, I get really sad how unappreciated they are
I'm also extremely curious to know who your dad is and if I've heard any of his music, lol, are we talking khaliji music or Egyptian music (a.k.a as a 90s baby, Amr Mostafa) or sham music?
I would say that American composers, generally the producer, is given plenty of credit and generally treated quite well. In fact, legendary producers are sometimes more popular than legendary singers/songwriters/rappers, etc
@@vahgarimo9864 true. and being both a poet and a composer put you in goat contention. AKA Kanye West (jonah hill is the real goat tho because now i can mention kanye and not be ostracised).
I’m purposely rewatching this because the strike is announced to be over. It’ll be official as of like midnight tomorrow but I’m glad that it finally worked out for the best
The fact that just a few seconds of two rocks on a cliff can STILL make me tear up should be proof enough that there are insanely creative people out there making amazing art and they need to be protected at all costs
Once I saw new videos from Danny, Kurtis, and Scott, I knew that Drew wouldn’t be far behind. Somehow those guys are all on the same cycle at this point. You get one, you’re gonna get four in relatively short order.
That's what I was thinking. Imagine Megan Ganz, writer of my favourite puns in my favourite episodes of one my favourite shows- one of my favourite experiences- delivering my pizza.
I'm currently doing my bachelor's in creative writing and every damn day it gets more and more disheartening because the industry I want to so desperately be apart of treat the people who come up with the ideas and stories and the literal core of every movie and show like absolute ass. Thank you for making a video on the strike and how important it is, I genuinely hope more people realize that writers and storytellers are the backbone of art and culture. From my classmates, coworkers and the bottom of my heart, support writers; support the up and coming novelist in your town, support the one who's been writing script draft after script draft, support the ones who get jobs, support the ones that get rejected, support the ones in theatre and the ones that work at bookstores, the writers who go into journalism, the writers who go into blogging, support your niece who writes bad fanfiction, support your brother who comes up with huge fantasy stories. Every writer, new, old, in the industry or just starting out, need all the damn support they can get.
yep, as someone who is also doing Bachelor's in lit for the same, i agree. Hey also, i would love to talk more about creative writing if we could connect.
Hey, remember. Writers are one of the MAIN reasons you get to enjoy the stories you do. The good content, the great movies, the catchy songs, the addictive tv shows --- ALL OF IT. Writers have to write and rewrite scripts -- sometimes on location -- SO MANY times. It is an insanely stressful job with little return and they don't even make much money off it in the long-run due to streaming bullshit. We HAVE to fight for writers to get better pay --- in fact, they deserve MUCH, MUCH better pay and benefits than they are currently asking for, which is a measly sliver of what big execs get for doing next to nothing.
@@atrvcious They have mostly been asking people to donate to the Entertainment Fund mostly to help out the crew whose productions will be shut down because of this. You can picket if you're in the area. You can spread word on social media. Like news spreads faster then it used to and social media wasnt the powerhouse that it was in 08. Hell Drew making this and it being the #1 trending video (as of me writing this comment) is probably doing alot for the WGA right now. You could probably email services like Netflix and Co urging them to give into writers. There hasnt been a call for a boycott of any of the platforms yet but keep your eyes open.
As someone who wants to become a writer, I don't want my job to be treated as a gig job, especially when movies make hundreds of millions yet writers can barely make ends meet. And because the WGA and the studios and producers are so far apart, the strike isn't ending any time soon.❤
That's how I feel about the food delivery that I'm quitting: it's hazardous to be on the street for so long because people in traffic (and out of it, I almost ran over a teenager thinking he should run across the street barely a few meters away from my motorcycle) are always trying to make you crash, then you get paid per delivery, are expected to work 6 or 7 days a week, pay every maintenance on your vehicle, have no vacations and no work accident compensation whatsoever, as if "oops, you had an accident during work" became invalid when you don't "actually work" and just have "a side gig that coincidentally takes up the same time and even more effort". Worse even are the people who keep treating it as a side gig because "lol get a real job" when my "not real job" feeds at least a hundred people just on the restaurant I work at, with the city having dozens of them open at the same time and easily amounting to thousands of deliveries each day... thousands of people get fed by people with fake jobs and I'm supposed to suck it up.
@@ih8theantichrist yeah dont live where most media in the US is written and produced! very smart! how about just paying writers their worth for the job?
As an artist, I find your perspective on Ai refreshing. Sometimes I feel like I’m surrounded by people with no value for creative work. It’s exhausting. I feel like watching this video gave me more tools in my arsenal to defend my fucking career choice 😂 everybody wants cool games, shows, decor, etc until they realize they need an artistic human to WORK and create a quality product for them 🙄
fr like it’s so sad to see people not appreciate art while simultaneously enjoying it. i would rather the science and technological and business fields have so involvement than art .
As a visual artist, thanks for sharing your opinions on A.I, I feel like most content creators feel differently and hearing your opinion was refreshing. Thanks Danny
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Dang it, I thought he stopped uploading
congrats on the pin
Shut up
drew will never stop the grind 💪
ALREADY???
that was quick
I can't believe the CEO of TV let this happen
too busy fighting CEO of racism
Straight to jail
sowwy >_< its hard to be ceo
@@JokeswithMitochondria shhh I'm trying to lay low
God damn you John Television!
The part that annoys me the most about this is that the writers WILL win this no matter what but these companies are still going to drag it out as long as they can.
i think they drag it out as a strategy to keep writers from doing this more often
They'll win like fast food workers won. It will just make the AI for writing TV and Movies come out faster and better.
@@DarthObscurityA.I. can only produce writing that's good if there is a human being on the team who has the expertise to differentiate the good writing generated from the bad. A.K.A. Writers...
@@DarthObscurity AI will come for your job too buddy.
Writers will win, but a ton of them are gonna get fired. That's kinda how strikes work, unfortunately
this makes me so sad because paying writers is literally so easy for these giant productions. they don't do it just because they can get away with it.
I feel like this is the case for a lot of industries and it's so very frustrating
exactly. the things they're asking for is not even much at all
@@gaj30 But if they give a raise to the writers, how will the CEO of Warner bros. buy his 3rd house in cayman island. smh
It might help if the writing wasn't so piss poor.
@@youdontneedthis6804 I have a feeling you don't know much of anything about the grueling work that goes into those roles for comparatively little pay-
I love playing Drew’s videos at full volume on my phone and then leaving the room, so it sounds like Some Guy is just angrily ranting in my house
this comment is funny thank you
i love you
I literally put Drew’s videos on to get me to fall asleep, listening to Some Guy getting scammed by a moon-pod is a 10/10 sleep inducing experience
@@pannajohns5255ame
I literally also just let the tv play & let Drew, Danny Kurtis etc yell at me ab sht they dont like (pro tip:always use playlists so it will just auto-go & *heavily utilize tv sleep-timer if you have one, trust😂) Killed my last tv that way
Lmao who are you
So proud of Drew for improvising this entire video in solidarity with the strike.
i wanna like this, but it’s at 420 likes so i feel like it would be disrespectful to ruin it
@@andrewekker938 theres 481 you can like it now
@@andrewekker938 u can like it now, andrew
@@andrewekker938 Andrew, I expect your like now.
@@andrewekker938 Andrew, what are you doing? Like it now.
I find it crazy how every single show would never exist without writers and yet they get the short end of every stick.
I think there was some guy who wrote something about this way back in the day, can't remember his name though. Carl something?
yo wanna become a communist? it's pure drip
It's always like that... I used to work at a spa in South Africa. We the therapists work the hardest deal with attitude from entitled clients and the stress of perfection when it comes to nails and waxes. But we got paid peanuts no peanuts are big.. We got paid sesame seeds!😒
Replace “writers” with “workers” and “show” with “industry” and you’ve figured out our society
The workers always get the short end of the stick
a world where humans do the boring office jobs while computers write scripts and make art is not the world i want to live in
EXACTLY
I'd rather the computers automate the office jobs.
Then again, the office is 90% busywork that would go away with the obsolence of the 40-hour workweek.
This is literally why I feel so hopeless about the world right now. Thanks to the few corporations and people who have their grip on the government and how the US runs, I am terrified of actually pursuing my interests in a career, because I feel like I can be so easily replaced by a machine. Machines aren’t meant to make art. Art comes from the human mind and soul. It’s so grotesque how people are beginning to push for this skewed order of things. It’s terrifying. I’ve heard people say, “if you don’t wanna be replaced by the machines, you gotta work on the machines.” Jeez. What about free choice? What about free market? Why would I want to spend the rest of my life suffering on breadcrumbs and pennies while servicing machines that do the things that we’re supposed to do?
@@ohnoherehego2158 Because the idea that someone out in the world isn't as miserable and materialistic as them is terrifying in their eyes.
@@ohnoherehego2158 I think there’s a lot to be said about keeping your passions as passions and earning your income through other means. Many artists and creatives who do creative work as a living do deal with burnout because what was once a joy has become work. With that being said, I think the current state of things begs an important question: *How important is keeping the humanity in art to you personally?* If this is important to you, and you feel that you would not be able to see the point of living if you don’t get to manifest the fruits of your creative labor, then put your all into making your creativity your life. You’ll have to work within the system for a bit, but focus on honing your craft, and learning about the system itself so that you can find the cracks in it and find your niche. It’s hard work, but don’t lose hope! If you’re passionate about what you want to do, and you’re in it for the long haul, then it doesn’t matter what’s happening in the world, because you’ll have decided that creativity is your LIFE. I hope this helps!
He's so right about the elementary school teacher thing. It would be awesome actually. Can you imagine how much better society would be if elementary school teachers were paid fairly? I'm actually so angry at the world for that btw
Lol future teacher here, please relax unless you plan to actually do something about it. Nothing is more infuriating than seeing people say things like "omg im so mad about this" only for them to not vote for helpful public education laws. You can literally make a difference if you choose to. Your anger isn't helping us. We are already angry.
@@nomoretwitterhandles hi firstname lastname! I am also a future teacher! We’re currently talking on the internet, where people just say things. You almost certainly cannot tell what someone is doing in real life from a TH-cam comment alone. I definitely hear you on your frustration, but it’s similarly unhelpful to tamper lighthearted comments pointing out an injustice. Why don’t we relax here on the internet as well, and talk about something nicer? I’m real passionate about math and philosophy and I’d love to teach it in the future. What about you? I want to hear what you’re passionate about!
@@nomoretwitterhandles lol current teacher here, please relax unless you somehow speak for the entire worldwide teacher gestalt.
It is reassuring to know that, even if they are unable to affect change, that others are upset at our situation, and we may one day be able to convert this into actual change.
Teaching is a fucking hard job. But i hate this typical "anti-authority" society we're all encouraged to support now. "Fuck the pigs! Unless i need them because ive been shot, stabbed, robbed or raped. Dont blame people commiting crimes, its the police that are the scum because ill get likes for posting it on social media!"
And that trickles all the way down to teachers. The staggering amount of comments on vids where teachers are caught up in some bullshit and have absolutely no hope of being able to do they jobs youll find people saying the most disgusitng things. "All teachers are useless. They need to be fired. I dropped out in year because my teacher wouldnt let me smoke in class but she wanted me to fail anyway." People finding any reason to justify their own terrible behaviour by blaming anyone with the tiniest bit of authority.
Funniest thing to me is its always genuine criminals, like the ones that boast about their crimes that openly hate cops and blame them for being in jail (not the crimes they commit) and privileged middle class whities that have had no negative interactions with police and are the literal first person to call them in any situation. But will slander the ever living fuck out of them onlibe to garner likes from their equality simple minded progressive friends.
meanwhile usa out there spending literally almost a BILLION fat ones on their military while under funding their schools, underpaying their teachers, serving a joke as mid day meal. ill never understand corporate greed and the us society
“Learn to code” made me burst out laughing because programmers are worried about the exact same thing happening to them
Same. It had me thinking, "Who's gonna tell them?"
Yeah, like...it's literally made of code, every single one of them is, and there's a whole damn lot of code to source from! Not only that, but it doesn't have the same issues as writing or drawing where it lacks individualism, because basic code doesn't need to have any!
There's also that time Redigit, creator of Terraria, told an AI to write a line of code and mentioned how scarily close it was to writing something coherent, so-
even faster
learn how to use AI
@@damienearl8302 AI is doing a lot better than "scarilly close to writing a coherent line of code" when it comes to writing code.
Chat gpt can write simple programs instantly, and they usually do just work out of the box.
What’s weird is the people saying “get a real job” probably have their own favorite shows that they binge watch. They’re calling these people useless while consuming the product they make.
Yeah thats the most frustrating thing, do they not understand that most of their hobbies/interests are due to creatives like writers?
That's what I was thinking. Most of these people no doubt partake in watching movies and shows but yet they'll say that art is useless and not a real job. It's very strange.
@@jard4864 entertainment is just as important as basic necessities to me, what is the point of surviving if all you do is work, eat and sleep.
As someone who just got a degree in film, it angers me to no end when people think art is an easy job or a lazy profession. It requires so much time, money, dedication, manpower and creative skills.
istg, like ain't no way you've never liked a show in your life
I hope animators are able to do this at some point. They really get screwed over as well, artists really are tragically undercompensated and underappreciated in the work force
Tis only natural
Especially considering none of Hollywood could exist without it's creatives
the death of 2d animation is genuinely so incredibly sad for art as a whole and nobody is talking about it :(
@@kittylett sadly a lot of artists are trying to fight against it but so many art jobs now just requre u to know 3d software :((((
real before the strike writers for animated media have repeatedly been mentioning how they're paid EVEN LESS on their scripts compared to live action ones despite there being no substantial difference to warrant less pay, which should say A TONNNN about the respect of that entire industry receives.
When Drew said sooner we'll only get shows from 22 year olds with rich parents my mind immediately went to Sam Levinson and the on fire trashcan show he wrote to fulfill his porn fantasies also known as The Idol.
his fantasies are an interesting combination of dull and unpleasant
@@louschwick7301i was going to say me too but actually maybe not
Yes, but that is about 90% of the Writer's Guild at this point. Let it burn down so that it can be re-made better. Imagine that this strike creates the opportunity for *actual* competent writers to step in now that they don't have to contend with nepotism writer-activists force feeding us their shoehorned political plot points every film, show, short story, etc.
I really hope The Weeknd got his bag for that.
@@xdsp The strike won't change who is writing and who isn't
Pretty impressive how Drew improvised this entire video in the absence of his usual writing team. I hope the strike ends so we can get more videos soon!
huh? i’m pretty sure he writes his own videos.
@@swagxnajno no chatgbt and a team of writers do it!
@@freya2093 r you being sarcastic cuz i literally can’t tell.
@@swagxnaj yes lol
That's actually why Drew hasn't made a video in months. The writers' strike came early to him.
I'm a mom with kids in school, and even though it would disrupt my life, I secretly really want all the teachers to go on strike. I hope the writers win, and hope it leads to more wins for those who need it.
It’s honestly amazing there are any teachers at all in the USA. I don’t know if that’s the country you’re referring to but I’m not from there and I only recently learned of their terrible salaries, the threats of school shootings and the abuse they get from students and parents. It’s horrifying. Thank you to all the teachers! 🙌
You are so cool. Coolest mom award goes to you. I love this energy.
WV did it
Unions are strongest
My family is made up of teachers. Two of them are special educators and it's insane just how poorly they are treated by administration
Yes, TV shows AND films are re-written as they happen. When you act on a show, you often get an updated script every two hours.
Omg he's here
That's actually so interesting, always nice to find the OG TayZonday randomly online
CHOCOLATE RAAAAIIIINNN
Chocolate rain
on an alien christmas this would never be a problem
"You're so distracted by this one tree that you have yet to notice the forest you're standing in" is such a good line wtf
It's essentially the exact same phrase as "missing the forest for the trees"
@@VeronicaGarcia-tl2wb This exactly. It is a good line, but it's not exactly original lol. I do prefer the way he said it but that's just what poetry is honestly.
Theres a weirdly large amount of people completely against the idea of creative jobs. Theyre literally praying on the downfall of artists, writers, and performers for like what reason???
The reason is they’re jealous of their hard work and talent. I myself had a chat with a guy who uses ai because he can’t draw, he tryed but since it didn’t all come at first he gave up.
@@bowen13 the only person responsible for 'gatekeeping' if an individual doesn't have time or talent to do something is themselves. If you want to learn something, you make the time. And we're not all going to be the best at everything, but we can still try our best and give it a shot and guess what! Still enjoy it. Nobody is stopping people from trying. Sure, AI is a cool tool to use to make amalgamations of other people's work, but all it will ever be able to do is copy and compress and imitate. If it makes people feel better then good for them, but don't for a second say that anyone is being prevented or gatekept from sitting down and making art themselves. It's a lazy excuse and provides the foundation for a lot of entitled behaviour, like we all deserve to succeed at everything. That's a very slippery slope.
Because they're boring.
@@bowen13 "No sympathy" say goodbye to all art jobs in the future then.
@@bowen13 Artists are only terrified that corporations see this as an opportunity to cut costs and you know they'll sacrifice quality for a couple pennies. Not only are our paychecks at a threat , but AI is going to stagnate art and significantly slow any development as it continues to regurgitate art already made and without artists consent. While turning away artists from seeking a job in art and continuing to push out art that doesn't produce anything new, you're practically making art a purely corporate experience.
When Drew said " the writers room is getting smaller" I literally thought he meant the room the writers worked in was getting smaller, until he clarified that the amount of writers on staff was what was getting smaller...
Don’t give them ideas.
In at least one case, it's literally true. One room was basically a closet that only three people could fit inside at once.
fr 😭😭
They’re saving so much money on building materials
I too, thought the same thing
Peter Gould is a TV writer whose big break came when he started writing for Breaking Bad in its very first season. After a few seasons (and we can assume some on set experience), he directed an episode. Him and Vince Gillian then teamed up for Better Call Saul and he started directing more episodes, even episodes he didn’t have the writers credit for. When Vince left, Peter became the show runner. The show ended to absolutely critical acclaim despite Vince’s absence. That’s the power of on-set writers
Bravo
@@sandy_paul
Pretty sure it was AMC actually
Say it louder for those in the back!
EXACTLY
Bravo Peter
i appreciate drew standing in solidarity with the strike by not posting a video for 2 months 🤩
He's like been in a billion of other videos over the month
@ChudDin hey dude, my whole family is union. if you want to be wrong, go do it somewhere else.
@ChudDinwhat are you even talking about? What writers hate you? Did actors burn your toast? How could an entire industry possibly hate everyone else?
@ChudDinwho hurt you
@ChudDin go be cringe where people won’t be bothered by it
The best thing I saw regarding ai replacing jobs was something close to "we were all really hoping all the shitty jobs nobody wants to do would get taken over by robots/ai so that we could all focus on hobbies and art, but instead we're getting the opposite for literally no reason"
All the jobs are getting taken over though.
What jobs would classify as shitty that AI could do though?
@Gin Andromeda honestly, tech could theoretically replace most jobs requiring unskilled labor- the problem is the hardware is not advanced enough vs the software I think. but there are ones that could theoretically be replaced now, like garbage truck operators, most factory workers and their managers, etc. jobs that are menial and don't require a huge amount of oversight, variation, or dynamic thinking/processing. but people like researchers, creatives, computer scientists, etc are the worst type to replace with AI and tech for the exact same reason. those are jobs that absolutely require an advanced level of education, critical thinking, creativity and adaptability that AI doesn't possess (and there's no hardware to match)
I really don’t understand where the current hatred for the arts and humanities is coming from. Its not even the AI models themselves suggesting they can create poetry (they really REALLY can’t) and whatnot. Its the fact that there’s a really vocal group (I really hope minority) actually ASKING for AI to replace artists and content creators and getting incredibly triggered when its pointed out how terrible that would be.
I originally liked the concept of stuff like ChatGPT becoming popular because I thought it might lower the skill floor to highly technical jobs (like game development) while raising the ceiling and allow for much more complex games along with more creative simple ones. I also thought it’d take away some of the less desirable jobs and free up resources for companies to hire people in more positions people WANT to work in and we’d be able to see an increase in people feeling less pressured to pursue expensive educations just to work low skill jobs and people would instead to more free to pursue technical careers and freelance and etc and actually get a job suitable to their degree post graduation. For schools I was hoping the fear would force the education system to revamp and focus on teaching kids how to think and write with personality instead of just following directions and memorizing answers for a test. Also while I’m not trying to say they aren’t worthwhile fields to go into, STEM needs to stop being pushed so hard on kids so early in education. The arts and humanities teach kids how to express themselves creatively, explore who they are, learn how to think and discuss, and so on. STEM is incredibly useful but only specifically if you’re going into those fields and even then not really until university or maybe high school (before then its just memorization you’ll forget). Its not like STEM fields shouldn’t be taught but again not pushed as hard and to the extent they take away from teaching the arts and humanities. I was hoping AI would shift focus back to the Arts and humanities.
@Sum Boi fast food workers are already getting replaced without AI. Most places have electronic kiosks to order in doors and push mobile ordering.
When the writer's guild posted on twitter about the strike, I was really surprised to see how viciously negative most of the responses where, but then I scrolled far enough down that the accounts weren't check marked anymore and it was instantly super supportive with people asking how they could support the strike as consumers
of course the Elon Musty Fan Club wouldn't support the strike! the vast majority of Twitter Blue subscribers are bootlickers who want to replace everyone's jobs with AI and will do anything it takes to help the rich get richer and make the less fortunate suffer even more than they already are. they are so out of touch with reality that it's astounding! I would say that it's laughable, but it's also lowkey terrifying tbh. 💀
Anyone with a blue check on twitter is probably the biggest idiot you’ve ever seen
People that pay for Twitter blue are automatically 5 times more insufferable
People believe what’s on twitter?
I use twitter to argue with gen z and looking at cats
As a writer in a different industry, writing is entirely seen as the least important. We’re brought in at the last second and told to “whip something up” while they’ve kept us out of the loop on everything that makes up what we’re supposed to write. Still fighting to be a part of the process-and they’re only now realizing how crucial writers and their expertise are.
video games?
They do all the screwing up and then ask you guys to put out the fires. Very unfair.
It seems so delusional to me. Like how can you even convince yourself the WRITER isn’t as important?! Literally the person crafting the thing lol.
@@DonnieLouis i'd argue otherwise. writers aren't AS importent. they're the MOST important part of something. because tell me, when's the last time you watched something without caring for the story? for me, the last show i watched without caring for the story was Euphoria. and i only watched that show because of the relatability and the vibes. but other than that, i dont think anyone watches anything without looking at the story. and writers are responsible for the story so them being not compensated enough really makes me infuriated.
Reminds me of a great interview between Conan O'Brien and John Cleese (2 of the greatest writers of all time) where John Cleese talked about writing back in the Monty Python days. He talked about how CEOs and Share Holders don't understand the "writing process". A CEO expects to walk into a room and see every writer sitting at their desk and typing away (like most cubicle/crunch jobs), when reality tells us that's not how writing works. Most the time, writing includes about 45 minutes of wandering around doing meaningless tasks (like sharpening a pencil 15 times) and then morphs in to actually writing for 15 minutes. To most CEOs, they see this as laziness and a lack of "quality production". But THIS is what creativity looks like! It's 45 minutes of mulling over thoughts and getting the engine going, and then spitting the past 45 minutes of culminated thoughts into 15 minutes of genius on paper!
This is all to say (and the reason why we have this issue and will continue to have this issue), people like CEOs who are heavily Left-Brain oriented will always struggle immensely attempting to understand the process of the Right-Brain because they just don't think like that. Thus presenting the issue of writer's being looked at as numbers, and not as important pieces to the success of a product (this goes the same for inventors/engineers who's creativity tends to get disrespected)
i, too, am tired of constant remakes and rehashes, have been for years, but not once have i thought the writers were at fault. common sense clearly tells us that execs and studio heads are the people pushing these remakes, not the writers. furthermore, i have no clue how people think ai would fix this lmao bc ai is literally just a machine with no original ideas. how hard is it to just pay writers smh
also there are so many good original shows and movies out there (new spiderverse is fucking amazing and mindblowing), and i also choose not to watch things i don't like? it's literally that simple lmao
Couldn't have said it better I see so much attention thrown at little mermaid when everyone already knows it's bad and mediocre and everyone complains about all the bad movies but keep paying for them so companies keep making more bad movies. It's like a machine pay for what you want to see.
People keep focusing on the Hollywood remakes so intensely that they don't realise we're in a golden age of TV right now. Some of the best, most well-written shows have come out/ended in the past few years!!
Writers are definitely partly at fault, they are the ones writing it after all
@@DameOfDiamonds yeah you're definitely as cringy as your name says lmao
The writers aren't all-powerful beings in absolute control of what the shows end up being. A lot of them are pressured to make rush decisions, or have their good ideas discarded, by THE STUDIO HEADS AND THE EXECUTIVES. Did you even watch the video? Drew explained how bad writing is constantly the fault of the higher ups.
Anyone who calls themselves a "weeb" is such a loser
let's not pretend writers are forced to take these jobs. if everyone who worked on a project deserves a % of the profits when it succeeds, then they also deserve a % of the blame when it fails.
People never fail to amaze me in how they undervalue the workers that are the lifeblood of a system. It reminds me of an anecdote where the janitors and sanitation workers at a hospital wanted better working conditions and pay, and the hospital refused so they went on strike. The hospital was in complete CHAOS within a single hour, and those workers got all of their demands. Everyone loves to lick the boot until they realize they’re being crushed beneath it without the work of thousands of “unknowns.”
Capital propaganda
Perfectly said
This delusion never fails to make me laugh, people have been saying this for years, and it still hasn't happened, and it won't happen in our lifetime.
"lick the boot until they realize they’re being crushed beneath it" Cringe, do you really have to use that terminology for an otherwise good point. It's beaten to death now.
@@dekumutant you can't be calling people cringe with that username
Censoring the names but keeping the blue check is actually the exact kind of editing im here for on the Drew Gooden TH-cam Channel
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As someone who is currently going to school for screenwriting, the amount of times i’ve heard people tell me that AI is going to replace my job by the time i graduate is insane.
the artists, writers, animators, designers, etc who are willing to take a lower paycheck because they love what they do need to be protected and yet it seems like they get screwed over at every opportunity. idk how it’s possible for production companies to continually ignore the value of the creative people they employ. Thanks for talking about this, i hope this strike succeeds
Keep coping harder, you'll have debt and no job. Hope Starbucks still has spots open lol
@@99Plastics Synthwave Hyena
@@99Plastics my guy with that pfp and username u look like ur about to tell me how to mine etherium. Sit tf down, you couldnt even get an interview at starbucks.
edit: im officially a fucking idiot and forgot to mention the first reply-
i was using @SynthwaveHyena’s logic. i support writers, im using their shitty ideas to tell them that ai will only boost shitter movies
Hope you cope harder when Disney releases the 23rd toy story because without writers they can do anything they want, and its mid because ai combines things together to make a product, not make a new product. sorry bro, but remakes and reboots will be everything in media if ai can replace writers. why try to create something new when you can just ask chatgpt to make a reboot and make more $$$ of the same franchise?
They are so foolish for thinking consumers won't notice or will be ok with the quality decline of work without writers, animators, etc or if they try to use AI.
I'm a writer and loath ChatGPT with my entire being. All my life, I've tried to have a talent. Something I''m good at. Something I can bring to the table and help with. I love writing stories and characters and entire worlds for others to see, and I've grown confident in my skills(room for improvement, ofc). To see everyone flock to an AI system is just gut wrenching. I finally found something I know I can do well, and it is quite literally being ripped away from me.
I'm afraid of it but also excited to see what things like it could do in the future for people who aren't corporate suits looking to make even higher profit margins.
It's crazy how the same crowd of people who all whine about how modern music is all bland and autotuned are immediately falling to their knees in worship of an online fridge magnet collection the plagiarizes real artists' work. I know it's apples to oranges, but it still makes my head spin.
Just write better than it lmao
@@hajidle Wow dude you really solved all of our problems
@@hajidle My god! How did none of us think of this before?!? We'll just John Henry our way out of the automation of the arts! Because that turned out so well for him
treating underpaid writers like they’re apart of billionaires in hollywood is like thinking a walmart cashier is rich because they work for a billion dollar company
Wait that mf isn’t rich? I think I need to make some apologies…
@@IAmTheRealHim bro, run me my money back. I had to spend a week in the Walmart baseme...
Except the Walmart cashier doesn't hold all of their customers in open contempt.
no, it's like treating them that ''orangemanbad'' jokes just aren't funny anymore. Only 100,000 times you can say ''orangemanbad'' and get laughs.
What a shame. Oh how i pity them.
LITERALLY
I'm a visual effects artist. When people say "we'll fix it in post," I'm "post." We're also being effected by this strike and have similar scenarios where we're hired for a short time, do a ton of work, then we're laid off for 6 months until clients decide to send us another project and the studio needs more artists to work to death. This industry is brutal and it's very hard to depend on your income for long-term. It's not something they talked about when I was in school and it was a very sad and hard lesson to learn.
I am so sorry to learn this, keep you head up dude and if you can please fight for your rights and unionize! I am a hobby writer, studying to code so this particular strike hits home on both fronts. People don't realize how garbage AI is, with it's hallucination problems and generating data based on existing data. It has potential to only automate things which are structured. People can't be replaced, so it's about damn time we start treating them better.
This plague has been going for ages now. Movies being made in less than 2 years (from scripting to the theater), and many scenes only taking 1 day to record sounds like a bunch of shit being thrown and hoping something sticks... And many artists cane out about this. Really hurts how this, for the longest time, doesn't sound like it has an end...
i hope you guys unionize and strike next, good luck
I have heard they put unfair time crunches on your departments. Vfx is still art. I've been interested in learning how to become an amateur effects artists, any tips?
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It's crazy how people who complain that "all the new stuff is unoriginal" think that having robots write it would somehow fix that issue.
I believe it was Steve Carrell who called in sick from filming The Office every single day of the last writer’s strike out of solidarity with the writers, saying he couldn’t come in because of “enlarged balls.” Hoping we see some of that energy from actors this time around too.
cool, but The Office fucking sucks. It's terrible.
Oh wait is this why the show is like “michael is gone for the next season and now the show is last and bad for a while”
@@breadstore_1 no, the strike happened during filming of season 4, which is why there’s only 14 episodes. Steve Carrell leaves near the end of season 7.
@@kmr32393 ohhh ok thank you!
We live in such a weird, warped society where people don't think art should be paid for and supported but still want to benefit from it. They want high quality TV shows to watch but for writers to not get paid fair wages for them. They want art museums and cultural sites to visit, but don't think anyone should get a degree in the humanities and should just learn to code. They have yet to learn that you can't have it both ways.
Exactly, I don’t get the disconnect either. They keep saying they’re sick and tired of reboots, sequels, and remakes but also don’t care to support anything that would incentivize people to create original works that are entertaining and thought provoking. People have gotten so used to quickly served slop that they don’t think about all the work needed to get high quality content. Instant gratification and profit don’t mix with art and long lasting goods.
Amen. Couldn't have said it better myself.
There's kind of a weird fascist push in the world right now, and a lot of misplaced anger. Assuming the base reason for that is people are having a harder time getting basic needs met. Creativity suffers under that trend...along with a lot of other things. People are scared.
I work in the dubbing industry and I’ve been noticing this problem for the past year or so. For example, every time we have a new show, we start our dubbing process as usual and more often then not, it’s all over the place. We receive multiple new re-shot versions along the way, no one at the production company seems to be sure which version is the right one, the order of episodes, and there are a lot of continuity errors that WE sometimes let them know of. It is wild! It disrupts the whole chain, makes everyone in post work long hours to fix the problem and ends up costing them so much money because they have to pay the reshoots, post-production and if they are dubbing or subtitling in multiple languages, all of that is considered as extra. They end up spending much more money than if they had just let writers do their jobs in the first place. Never fix it in post, guys ;)
Yes but money
I aint reading all that😂
@flopper good for you, buddy 🎉🥰🥳🎉
@@flopper297 congrats you are illiterate 👏👏
@@flopper297 we love illiteracy xx
After watching Drew's Christmas episode, I'm convinced that Hallmark has been using AI to write its scripts for decades.
He: Merry Christmas
She: merry Christmas
He1: Merry Christmas
She2: merry
Hope everyone doing good. Sending support and hearts! ❤️❤️❤️ Stay safe. Always remember that people care. Sending support and even more hearts!❤️❤️❤️ Stay safe❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Oh 100 percent. They probably havent had s human writer in years
Let’s just appreciate drew and all that his hair has been through
It’s been dragged through the 7 purgatories of hell😔
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We're now entering the blonde drew phase. I wonder what arc he will go through.
I actually like the way it looks now, it’s like nicely dirty blonde
@@BlueButterFlyXOXO A beach episode is next… that or the hentai cut
I’m a writer, and although I currently work as a copywriter and not in a creative field like I’d like to, I love how passionate Drew is about cinema and art in general. Writing is wonderful because anyone can do it. Writing is difficult because not everyone can do it well. I love this episode and I hope all the writers on strike get exactly what they’re asking for.
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i want that job! So hard to find it :(
And I hope they get exactly what they deserve, the boot. You're right not everyone can write well and the people who are on strike right now can't.
@@MamaMOB what exactly makes you say that?
@@MamaMOBlol ok
Really love this evolution of what kind of content you produce
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Very nice
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You know why parents proudly display art made by their children? It's not because it looks amazing or because it can't be replicated by a computer. It's because the very fact that it was made by a person - especially a person they care about - makes it meaningful. Not to compare the work writers do to the fridge drawings of three-year-old children, but what makes art powerful and meaningful to me is because - like Drew said - it's a celebration of humanity.
I would get more out of a "bad" story written by a human than a "good" story written by a computer. I want to experience what real people, my fellow human beings, are creating! I don't care if it's bad, messy, inefficient, unprofitable, incomprehensible, and not tailor-made to my exact desires and sensibilities. I wouldn't want it any other way. Otherwise, what is art? Just an algorithmically generated product to push dopamine receptors and make billionaires even richer? No thanks, I'll pass.
So what will you do in the future when anyone can generate a well-written story and just pretend they wrote it? The technology is going to get to the point where unless you see the person creating/performing their work right in front of you there will be no reason to believe it wasn't AI-generated.
@@InternetPersons Okay. Just ask them about the story and writing process then as well as their inspirations. If they just generated it they would be dumbfounded and have no answers for you.
@@kingblue2632 I mean all media you consume in general. You're not going to be able talk to every Youber, every musician, or every artist you enjoy.
And AI use won't be limited to just people who don't have any talent. It's going to be used by people who know what they are doing as well. If hypothetically someone like Stephen King were to generate a novel that's convincingly like it his writing style he'd know enough about the writing process to convince people he wrote it.
@@InternetPersons So you're afraid REAL writers could speed up their process using AI? Oh, the humanity. Out of all human trends, art in every way has seemed to stay with us no matter your culture or time. AI is temporary.
ok
So glad I'm not on Twitter. Supporting the strike is so blindingly obvious to me, I kinda assumed everybody was on the same page about it. They are literally striking to not only improve their working conditions but to improve shows and the industry in general. So I can support worker's rights and indulge the selfish desire to find awesome tv shows to write fanfiction for? Yes please.
There's a bunch of overpaid dandys that are in a bloated industry that doesn't need them, I don't care. The Simpsons doesn't need 35 writers it needs to end, Kimmel doesn't need 35 writers it should be mostly about the people talking to Kimmel
Everyone is only supporting it out of self interest, a "first they came for the Communists, then they came for the Jews" moment that we are watching right before our eyes.
(That's an actual quote from Martin Niemoller I'm not just a lunatic anti Semite)
Twitter used to be a funny, occasionally insane place to spend some spare time on. now it's just a circlejerk of whatever Elon Musk has decided the people need to see (often propaganda)
Yeah same I had no idea that people were complaining about it LMAO
The beginning of your sentence makes it sound like you’re saying the opposite. Supporting the strike would be supporting the workers
I love it when Drew goes on an insane rant about something and it expresses EXACTLY how I’m feeling about it too. This video was poetry
Drew Gooden rants are always perfect and 100% spot on!
He is the messiah
@@JokeswithMitochondria Funny username
He tends to do that a lot for me. It’s crazy lol
Drew, I always watch your videos before I fall asleep (not because they're boring!) because they're comforting and I love the way you talk about things, I struggle with anxiety, especially at night, and watching your mental health video mentioning panic attacks really made me feel like I'm not alone, watching your videos at night helps me calm down instead of thinking about every mistake I have ever made, so thanks for that. Anyways, I love how you put a lot of work into your videos and I hope you know you are a really comforting person to listen to.
Yeah, his videos are really comforting, I do the same ong
@@pissboy1867 literally- also I love your username, it’s beautiful
@@jamiekremer Drew's not a great person unfortunately, he broke into someone's house.
@@OfficialMidnightRubyyeah it was mine :/
SAME to all of what you said!!!
I hope this strike doesn't just stop with the writers. I want to see animators unionize and strike, vfx artists unionize and strike, show runner, makeup artists, etc. I want the entire tv/movie industry to grind to a halt until all the people who go into actually making the tv shows and movies amazing are treated with the respect they deserve.
I hope it doesn't stop in america. I hope we see this happen world wide. I hope the manga and anime industry go through the same thing. I hope the heads of the company realize that they will make the most profit and have the happiest audience when *everyone is treated well* and are allowed to have complete creative freedom
I hope it doesn't stop with the entertainment industry, either. Practically everyone who earns a wage/salary in today's world has good reason to strike.
general strike!!!
AGREED!!!
Least based aro ace person (you are incredibly based)
Bro said anime and manga industry
I just really want to applaud drew for being Funny Commentary TH-camr while also helping bring attention to workers rights, and the writers and artists behind all the things we love. This is the stuff we should all be caring about right now (especially if we want to continue having any creatively fulfilling entertainment/art to consume)! I'm just happy to have the inventor of youtube on our side
Yeah. Drew needs to stop using Twitter. No AI will write the next Breaking bad. Nobody deserves a creative job, but those that do should be paid fairly. Poor movies with good potential sucks.
@overlordfemto7523
Because mistreatment of workers in one industry is obviously just in a tiny little vacuum and not indicative of any larger issue whatsoever.
Nope.
Nosiree.
i'm not gonna lie my man there are literally thousands of more pressing issues in my life and yours than a strike in an industry neither of us work in
@Femto Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were the arbiter of things people are allowed to care about. Please provide us with a list so we don’t make the same mistake in the future. Make sure “starving children in Africa” is at the top to really drive home your point.
@@cartermilan Why do you assume that this doesn’t affect us or people that we know? Why are you unable to see how this is indicative of a widespread societal problem?
I missed angry Drew rants. He’s so unbelievably funny and makes so many valid and amazing points. Thanks Drew glad to see you back!! Maybe get a tile so you don’t lose your keys again! Or buy some floaters for the swim next time!
i doubt anyone will see this but seeing such a cool creator like drew speak up about this is so cool. ive no experience working as im underaged but ive spent my life on art and was devastated by ai and the possibility of it taking over. i genuinely teared up a little bit when i heard him support workers in the creative field. this was a really uplifting video :)
It’s such a great video :)
I saw this. I'm a professional artist who teaches art to children and adults, so I want impart some of my wisdom onto you.
1) You say yourself that you are underage. You have yet to spend your life on art. Try not to stress too much, and enjoy your time being a kid. Childhood is temporary, but art is forever.
2) If you're an artist to seek validation, you're not alone, but don't expect what you crave. You don't need people like Drew to stand up for art. Us artists and art lovers already know AI art is terrible and we don't like it. But we also have trained eyes, so we can tell if something is AI generated or not. We love art for the heart and soul, not for the "perfection" that AI art fails at being capable of producing. Your options for being an artist will never go away.
3) If you're still worried about AI art taking over, just get better at art. I know that sounds silly, but it's true; AI art can only reproduce a bunch of things it has been given, and it's usually always messed up. AI struggles with hair, hands, collarbones, and details (such as eyes and eyebrows or tattoos and clothing wrinkles). Practice what AI sucks at, and your art will stand out. Or just be completely original; add a bit of abstract to your artwork. I don't mean Jackson Pollock levels of abstract (unless that's what you want to do), but even surrealism can boost your originality.
Just remember, one of the oldest paintings we ever managed to find was hidden in a cave. It wasn't any Mona Lisa or Statue of David, but it is amazing in its own right. Humanity speaks through art, and if you're not speaking through your art, you're just painting.
Don't worry, AI art is just a fad. An annoying, harmful, and dragged out fad, but still just a fad. It adds nothing to the landscape of art and is designed to fail.
I wish you luck on your artistic creations. I can't offer you much advice or help since I just began my art career not to long ago, it's tough but so rewarding and creatively fufilling.
Good youtuber like him make the strike less influential. YT is where most a large portion of people already get their entertainment.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesI just watched this video and am so glad I came across this comment. What you said about the humanity shining through is beautiful. It’s so heartening to read the comments on this video because sometimes it feels like I’m alone in my views on ai art.
Drew’s rant about how movies and tv shows are important and impactful BECAUSE humans made them is so validating and ironically enough put exactly into words what I’ve been thinking for so long but couldn’t quite explain. No matter the medium or genre, having *human* writers are the reason that so many people can come together and feel less alone - making an “advanced” ai would suck the life out of literally every aspect of that.
I especially hate the argument that Hollywood is creatively bankrupt with nothing but remakes, sequels and recognizable properties so why shouldn’t chatgpt replace writers? Because not only is automation making films mediocre, but even remakes and adaptations require a lot of writing and human input from concept creators.
Good example: the Super Mario Bros movie. Sure, a Mario plot is pretty simple. But the concepts of the mario world are complicated to translate to screen. So you need a writer to incorporate world building into the story elements using familiar Mario elements. You need storyboard creators and concept artists to design scenes and backgrounds, making sure those elements make sense, like how would the mushroom kingdom’s logic operate on screen or how would a level look in a landscape? And of course you need animators and graphic designers to make it all happen. If you had AI do it, it might look like Mario, but it won’t act like Mario. Same goes for Marvel, Star Wars, Disney remakes, DC, fast and furious, and every other major franchise. Nostalgia only works when it is made carefully.
It’s like pizza. Sure, we all love a great pizza made to perfection at a restaurant or higher end pizza place. But sometimes we just need something to tie us over and is cheaper but familiar, like Little Caesar’s or a frozen pizza. It tastes like pizza and looks like pizza. It’s not the best but it’s satisfying and you know someone actually made it. Nobody wants gas station pizza. You don’t know where it came from, how it was made, and you don’t even know that it’s pizza. That’s ai
idk bro if AI ever advances to where it can make better scripts than human writers, as a consumer the choice is pretty simple. But that's at least a decade or two in the future. Right now writers should be able to reap and enjoy the benefits of their work.
If we can make a tool that can generate content leagues more unique and entertaining at a far faster rate than humans every could, why wouldn't we? The whole "sucking the life out of art" argument is so redundant and pointless. If you like a piece of media, you're gonna like it regardless of if it was generated by AI or human, that argument feels like what Charlie's father in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory would say about robots screwing caps onto toothpaste tubes
considering we have absolutely zero instance of a movie written by ai and produced typically, your aspiration that "having human writers are the reason that so many people can come together and feel less alone" is a completely untested hypothesis. we are still at the early birth stage of AI development and usage. this is a tool that democratizes so many difficult jobs, making them much simpler to do/learn. this demonization by creatives labeling all AI generated creativity plagiarism, as if all artists don't develop their own creativity by studying prior art every day. it's complete hypocrisy.
@@kingkarlito at the end of the day, using AI or bots can be expensive, ChatGPT is an AI that created specifically to assist in writing, yet even he can make grammar mistakes, create non sense and boring stories etc.
If AI gonna take over the world, they would have long time ago. We now have Google, machines making our foods etc, but we still need humans.
If AI and robots can take over the world, jobs like cashiers, front desk jobs etc would no longer exist. Yet they still exist, AI wont take over the world-- at least not around 50 or even century later.
Unless we can be like Japan, where bots and machine are favored.
@@Amodh1257 what you're describing is impossible. an AI cannot, and will never be able to write original works of fiction, with elements of theme or philosophy or human understanding. to achieve the level of complexity and quality you are taking for granted, AI would need to literally be a sentient being capable of thinking and exercising free will. that's fiction, the same fiction you've been consuming your entire life, the very idea that an algorithm can surpass a human being is a literary device, it's a trope that goes back several decades. humoring this idea, art is a human construction, it is a form of expression and communication, it's primary function is as a link between people. an AI, fundamentally, cannot achieve this. there is no personal background to consider, no lived experience, no actual opinions or contemplations, no commentary track explaining WHY certain decisions were made. there can be no why to art if there is no human being, as human beings are uniquely aware and interested in meaning and purpose, an AI cannot ask questions, it can only give answers. i really don't know how much clearer i can make this point, i can't even really parse where this mindset of yours comes from, have you just never consumed a piece of art before? i feel like the purpose and value (not monetary value) of art is self-evident
Additional point: writers *want* to create new original art but studios will literally not fund them. They'll reject new pitches in favor of stuff they already own because it's cheaper to make and that's how we get Disney slapping a brand new coat of shiny high gloss doo doo onto 30+ year old perfectly good 2D animated features.
And people keep paying to see it.If lion king live action remake didn’t make a billion dollars they would stop making them. The average movie goer wants what they know
Devil's Advocate: Most of what the writers are pitching isn't any good.
@@Vaniity_Velvet How would you know?
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Because none of them are getting shows
@@Vaniity_Velvet circular logic is great because it's so circular
i’m currently in school studying screenwriting and media. the wga strike is not just important for current writers in the industry, but also for future writers that are second-guessing their chosen career path because of the horrible treatment writers get from industry bigwigs. thanks drew for talking about this and i hope folks learn from this video.
Writing has basically been my whole life, and I was so excited to potentially get into the industry: even anywhere in film and tv, but since wages have tanked below the mariana trench I'm probably gonna have to shelve that dream. This shit sucks
@@mrlagoonslawyer i’m sorry you feel that way :( let’s hope that the writer’s demands are met and that won’t happen
@@augonaut i feel most bad for those just entering the industry, or writers who've been in it for only a couple of years, cause what they've trained for and likely got a degree in is becoming so unsustainable, financially, as a career
I feel similarly as someone who wanted to become a teacher but chose a different career path purely because of the terrible treatment they receive. No wonder there's a shortage.
i'm the same, writing my passion project show as we speak, Im fully for the strike
The strike just ended today, but now we've got auto workers and flight attendants striking, too. Can't wait to see which industry revolts against their corporate overlords next.
But how is elon musk going to afford to build his personal cyber yacht?
Automobile Workers are also fighting tesla over in Northern Europe
Over a year later, it's the port workers.
I got my bachelors in screenwriting. Being on set for a feature film I wrote and produced was so incredibly fun, rewarding, and EDUCATIONAL. To take that experience away from writers is such a travesty.
What was the movie?
@@pandajesus5052 it’s actually still in production at my school 😄 I just graduated a few months ago. It’s called O’ Brawling Love and it’s a rom com.
Although, because writers basically get no say after the script is bought, they’re probably going to change the name :’(
@@bowen13 That’s such a dumb argument, honestly. Just because there are worse things going on in the world (obviously), doesn’t mean this issue doesn’t negatively affect people. Don’t pretend like you’ve never complained about something that is completely minuscule compared to other problems of the world. Of course you have. Other negative experiences don’t negate your own experience just because they’re worse.
@@Belelelekake aw nice :) rip the title tho probably- what’s it about?
@@pandajesus5052 thanks 😅 it’s pretty basic because our budget was very small. Basically a rom com about 2 people fighting to get a scholarship to go to an acting school. Very enemies to lovers
Even if writers did make a boat load of money, they deserve it. They put the work and creativity into what they do and if a show makes millions, the writers and crew should get a big portion of it
Yeah, like a lot of the paychecks go to the big name actors when they're only one cog in the machine
@@blakewhite3131
And the corporation that does nothing for the show or movie
The part that kills me with some people's reactions is they seem to think the writers concerns should be dismissed because they're Hollywood and they get paid a lot but like...they work for that money. They should be compensated for their work.
I love that Drew has now clearly caught the hair dye bug. The beach blonde looks good!!
He did it to audition for ken but heard about it too late
@@ryanfeller5765 😂
Idk why but he looks like Jake from Brooklyn 99 after they come back from witness protection and it really fits
@@Subpar1O1 Literally it looks just like that. Like completely doesn’t fit his face
He's dyed his hair before this.
came back to the video because i love your speech on “human creativity” (14:06)
currently working on a huge film project and your speech just resparks my love for film in every way possible. It’s such a beautiful thing that we can create anything we want and tell stories in such abstract ways and I’m so glad that you put it in words that I was never able to. Thank you Drew!
Drew's dedication is admirable he went to Europe and lived to tell the tale (I'm Bulgarian)
I’m going to Europe soon, wish me luck
@@KingOfGaymes you're gonna need it
He lives in Florida. He could go anywhere lmao.
I'm bulgarian too (I live in france tho)
Wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy (I’m Romanian)
When I heard about the strike I initially had the "don't they make enough already? I mean, they work in show business ffs" reaction and then I took the next step of looking up the average wage of Hollywood writers and accounting for the cost of living around Hollywood and realized that most of them are probably barely making ends meet and then the strike made a lot more sense. I fact checked my assumptions and discovered that they were shallow and inaccurate. Unfortunately, it seems to be very hard for some people to do the same and they'd rather just accept their assumptions as facts and run with them.
My sister is a Hollywood writer and is on food stamps because it’s just so expensive to live out there. She makes so very little writing because she’s just starting her career, but has to live in the area to be competitive.
I agree, unless you’re on top, you’re not making a lot of money in Hollywood. I saw a video from an actress on a popular show talking about her expenses. So much of her money went into her agency, her publicist, tons of the other places to keep up with her career and how little she had left at the end. It makes sense that a lot of these big names in Hollywood have connections or have rich families because I don’t understand how anyone could survive out there otherwise.
@@gracefoster7587 I remember when Danny Pudi (Abed from Community) responded to a claim that he has his own private plane and said that compared to a lot of actors he wasn't making much which makes sense. The idea that everyone in Hollywood is making a 100 million a year is ridiculous
As a creative person, I couldn't agree more. It always bugs me how much people hate artists actually getting paid for their authentic, original ideas. Just because it brings us joy and we're pursuing our passion, does not make us any less deserving to get revenue!
Well, AI art exists now, so those haters will get a W.
@@ShinyTillDawn ai art will never truly replace artists, because it doesn't actually have creativity
I hope
@@ShinyTillDawn only for some time. if ai replaces art, at some point there will be no creative ideas circulating, just the same, equally regurgitated ideas on repeat. because you need humans with unique perspectives and experiences for something truly revolutionary and creative and amazing that speaks to us. I’m not excited for a future which will most likely run itself into the ground after ruining real artists.
@@ShinyTillDawn AI art is for people with no proper eyesight or functioning brain. I can always, ALWAYS tell when something is AI generated. It's a good thing I'm an art critic, because I spot mistakes within seconds. For others it may take a good minute of searching an image to tell if it's AI or not, but I can tell from so much as a thumbnail of the image. AI art will never replace artists. If haters want dogshit art for free, they can have it all they want. Some of us actually ENJOY real artwork.
@@violetbackedstarling Well considering AI art requires human input to even do anything, man-made art will always have a place, especially among people who want tailored pieces. Honestly A.I. art is only consistently good for concepts, filler pieces, and porn. It's not impressive to make, so true art-lovers wouldn't really care for it and not only that, many galleries and shows despise A.I. art with a passion. I am sure there will always be a place for man-made art.
A.I. art can easily just be considered the Wall-Mart brand of the art world.
“I like watching TV and movies because they’re a celebration of human creativity”… “turn hard times into art because it’s incredible that it’s even possible to do that”
Well said 🤙🏼
One thing that I hope people remind themselves of in a few months is "don't blame the writers". When shows and movies start to turn to shit because of the lack of writers, don't blame the writers. There will be hit-pieces and articles commissioned by the executives to try to make the public turn on the writers... don't blame the writers.
Our favorite shows are born from these people's minds. We understand the importance of that. The executives don't. PAY THE WRITERS!
It's the same with everything. When the postal service turns to shit it's not because postmen are lazier than they were 30 years ago, it's because they have one guy doing the job of 3 people now. But the general public is literally retarded and can't see past the of their own nose, so they always think problems with a service must start and end at the front line.
I mean the industry will be to blame, but the writers will be at fault lol
oh nooo not the higher ups underpaying... who coulda seen this coming1!!1 If a show I've been waiting on for more than half my life gets turned to a hot steaming turd pile because of this strike, I don't care who it is, I'm blaming everyone
The execs are at fault
The writers are at fault
The industry is at fault
Hell at this point I'm blaming Saturn for not being in retrograde
@@Amodh1257 oh yeah. Everyone is absolutely at fault here.
The industry DOES indeed suck
@@Amodh1257"If a show I've been waiting on for more than half my life gets turned to a hot steaming turd pile.."
Based on the Minecraft profile picture, half of your life is only six years 💀
it’s so wild to me that writers don’t get money from the amount of streams a show/movie gets. like, WHAT?!?
Yeah it's practically outright theft
Writers also don’t share the loss if their work ends up being a flop and the movie doesn’t profit. They don’t have any risk, so they miss out on the reward
It kind of makes sense. A streaming service pays for the right to stream your show. Thats about it. And if any more money is made.. its to the distributor. It’s insane
Does the tea lady, camera operator and the cleaners get a proportion of each show? Were do you draw the line? I think it's quite complicated.
@@donbunson5031the tea lady and cleaners don’t create the actual show. for the camera operator it’s complicated, but for people like the writers and animators they absolutely deserve royalties. if a show makes millions of dollars there is zero reason (besides capitalistic greed) not to send the people who created the show a couple hundred bucks each month.
Literally everything that Drew said in this video I cannot agree with more. It's bonkers to me that the same people who complain about Hollywood and them not being original are the exact people who watch nothing but reboots/remakes and sequels, and then wonder why that's all there is.
It's also crazy to me how insanely greedy CEO's and high level executives are. I read an article that was talking to Bob Iger of Disney and he's like "it's just so sad how these writers are trying to sabotage the industry like this by striking", like how out of touch can you possibly be? And then he's like "I wonder why all these Marvel and Star Wars shows on Disney+ aren't connecting with people" like hmm I wonder probably because you don't pay the writers and are stretching them too thin? But instead of paying the writers, instead he decides to take tons of stuff OFF of Disney+ (you know, so they don't have to pay people when it gets streamed). It's utter nonsense. I can guarantee the people at all the traditional networks who have a streaming service, and definitely Netflix, Hulu, and all the Netflix-wanna-be apps are the exact same way.
I'm sorry but what evidence do you have that the same people who complain about sequels and remakes only watch those? I complain about them and don't watch them. Boom. Point invalidated.
@@enespanolporfavor6263if you’re actually being serious and not a troll that would be hilarious
One thing i miss about being a teen superfan of a tv show, is knowing the names of the writers and getting excited when writers of my fav episodes were the main writers of the newest episode. I would read interviews with writers and analyze how each writer thought differently about this character or that theme. It really made a TV show feel like a community and made me appreciate all the work that goes into shows more. 😊
It's always comforting to see Drew get as dangerously frustrated as possible.
I wanted to hold his hand and tell him it's all going to be okay. Definetly the most emotional and touching rant I have seen from him. And I am not saying that as if that is a bad thing.
@@BorderKeeperyou should watch his rant vid ab a bagel, his emotions in that video are unmatched
@@Heather-ip8sd he was so mad about that bagel
The animation industry is going through the same problems as live action and it's encouraging to see support like this for the writers' strike! I hope we can see something like this for animation soon!
Yes! Especially now when people are gutsy enough to make an animation with AI only to have it fixed by an actual animator 😕
YESSSSS
14:29 this is so real - one of my fave movies Mad Max Fury Road is just a jaw dropping unbelievable behind the scenes production. I thought the end product of the movie was unbelievable but the production process behind it is another level. Watching the documentation of production reminded me a lot that the film was made by a team of real artists and craftspeople. The amount of detail put into every aspect is something AI cannot replicate.
Ooooh, where did you come across the production process, if I may ask? As someone who is re-discovering as an adult how much fun the special features of movies are, I’d really like to get back into them. I thought I’d find them on DVDs, but it seems not all DVDs have that extra material.
the writing in that movie is abysmal btw
@rumfordc no it isnt? its a pretty beautifully written movie that manages to tell a clear story about a large cast of characters with pretty much minimal dialogue
one of the most infuriating things is that shareholders and CEOs that are ruining the entertainment industry to "save money", dont NEED to save money????? They have more than enough money to invest in their workers. Thanks for making a video about this Drew!! I'm an Animator and everyone in my industry are feeling a sense of doom when people point at us like because we animated some tv shows and movies, we're like the rich elite when we're literally pinching pennies and going without food to pay rent between contracts.
It's like they have a distorted view of who are the wealthy ones just because they saw a couple nepobaby "artists" get overexposure and they think everyone must be like them.
Greed makes people illogical. It creates problems where there are none.
"If all the teachers suddenly went on strike, their demands would be met instantly."
Drew, as an educator this is so funny because teachers literally go on week-long strikes all the time because their demands aren't being met.
Honestly, at best it would have to be a strike for a month and even then.
Teachers and even doctors are striking in the UK at the moment and their demands definitely are not being met. Instead the government just demonises them in the mainstream media.
@@himenyx153 Good luck finding all those teachers on a good week, financially speaking. And the general public is already disgustingly apathetic to every service job imaginable, there's no way a teacher's strike of that magnitude would really make a difference.
@@iantaakalla8180 strikes are meant to be indefinite until the demands are met. just striking for a week will not accomplish anything
Not every single teacher. A couple of schools max going on strike is what ever. But if everyone at any job all decided to stop working at the same time, the owners would be forced to meet the demands.
On behalf of a writer, not even one in Hollywood, thank you. You’re saying everything I’ve been preaching to every single person I know, absolutely genius.
Goofy
@@mccgroover5098 ok badger
15:54 “he’s not gonna let you ride it. He doesn’t know you”
Drew your take on AI makes me feel so much better as an artist.
It feels like so many people are drolling over software while degrading the people that software feeds off of and sometimes it brings me to tears man.
The fact at least someone out there cares really means a lot to me
Same. As someone who's dream is to able to make a living out of my writing, all the things around A.I and especially the way most people observe it is just terryfing for me.
And out of all of Drew's videos, that was probably the most emotional and powerful one for me
I'm an aspiring writer and I use image generating A.I. (ai art) all the time to generate images of my characters
@@sokagames0114 I use AI to give me ideas for stuff I'll draw by hand later lol
the thing is they should be used as tools to gain inspiration, like no one should rely on chatgpt to write a compelling story but a conversation could spark the idea that makes the script come together, just like no one should really upload what they get dall-e to generate, but it could give you inspiration to do something that is yours. no matter what the con artists say, and by con artists i mean the ones suggesting that all you need to make a book, game, comic, cartoon or movie is access to openai
I just wanted you to know that, ironically, there's a sex bot that stole this comment somewhere else in this comment section
I genuinely think shows like Community are a really good example of how important writers are. Community uses elements of classic sitcoms which makes it an incredibly comfortable show. However, there are also so many references, ridiculous plot points and so many moments of pure childish and lovely moments between characters that a computer simply could not create.
okay fine i’m finally gonna stop rewatching my usual shows and try community
@@lunar3nyou won’t be disappointed
All the shows people respect had abusive creators. Dan Harmon and Greg Daniels created long, unpredictable hours and tentative situations with lying or being unreliable just to produce a product for their own vision. It's really cool how hard the writers worked, but let's not forget the needless abuse they went through
@@jenm1 thank you, yes! i think that’s critical to remember. also chevy chase was racist towards donald glover and danny pudi on a regular basis!
no fr i’m glad you mentioned Community, and i CANNOT imagine what type of show it would be if it was written by an AI.
As a WGA member who's been picketing on and off for the past 2 weeks, this was INCREDIBLY cathartic to watch. Thanks for speaking up like this, Drew! All the supportive comments are super encouraging too - thanks y'all ❤
Grow up love
@@MaskedMadmann Wdym grow up? 💀
@@MaskedMadmann Funnily enough fighting multi-billion dollar corporations for better work conditions, compensation, residuals, healthcare, and creative ownership IS actually a grown-up thing to do, but thanks for your concern - it's adorable.
@@gabbinks hope you mf start writing better too
@@gabbinks WGA writer here as well -- keep fighting the good fight and ignore the bootlickers who don't understand that labor strikes are why they can, you know, retire one day
The fact that people assume every writer is rich because they create these amazing works that generate billions of dollars is honestly a testament that people think they should be the ones profiting.
The whole complaint about there being too many sequels and reboots is irrelevant to the writer's strike, anyway. It's not the _writers_ who are deciding to retread old ground, it's the executives and other higher-ups. Sabotaging the writer's strike and/or replacing writers with AI will only make the "too many sequels" problem *infinitely* worse.
Fr writers don't decide what the premise of a show is
I bet most writers would much prefer to write original scripts, too...
Honestly. If they're complaining that they don't see any original ideas, I don't know that "robot who is explicitly fed existing ideas" would change things in any positive way
Exactly! As I told someone else earlier, I'm really not sure how they think Chat GPT and the like will solve the issues of movie concepts becoming stale-
Like, I don't think the producers are just itching to come up with new ideas, but the writers are just like "but what if Shrek 5?!", and with that in mind...well, what do we think is *really* gonna happen when the people most likely to benefit from being able to pump out several of the same movie at a rapid pace gain that ability?
Also goes for the woke comments. Writers seldom choose the path of "and xe is also a NB fem presenting lesbian, biracial and in a wheelchair," those nudges come from higher up because it gets people feeling strongly one way or the other and that's the best free advertising.
it’s really sad how consistently marginalized the arts are in the sphere of workers rights, im an artist and to hear people say all the same shit about museums is so incredibly frustrating and shortsighted. they’ll consistently consume the media we create, yet in the same breath will devalue it. artists are workers too!!
Most people are marginalized in the sphere of workers rights these days bud.
@@FeiFongWang "you can't talk about that person who is dying! We ALL die!!!"
every time i hear someone downplay the labor that goes into art, i show them one of my works and ask them to paint it for me.
@@casadastraphobia I'm just pointing out that it's a bigger problem than just with writers, your little rhetorical technique doesn't apply here. I never devalued the strike or writers.....
@Bono Larusso I work in workforce development and the arts industry is definitely one of the most broken and lowest paid, at least in my country. All workforces have it rough, but the creative industry is something else
Animation has been going through the same thing for longer but with no sign of help or many advocates for change/help. I hope the WGA is successful again and eventually animators can join the WGA because storyboard artists are also script writers.
Animators guild publicly endorsed WGA very early in the strike. I hope there will be some reciprocation. Animators aren’t as pervasive in the industry as writers, but if animators and VFX were to strike simultaneously, Marvel/Disney would collapse.
Animators have been supporting other unions through it all - the IATSE negotiations, the WGA strike, etc. I’m proud, but also a bit bitter that during the TAG negotiations there wasnt any fanfare around it. The gig economy is killing us too, but just bc the most popular animation is “ugly” adult shows and “junk for kids”, it’s less respected. The gig economy is coming for us all, and the fact that I’ve been working on amazing shows and constantly being promoted, yet still need roommates to just live in a tiny apartment (only to get laid off as they cancelled our show) is infuriating and degrading.
Animation is suffering the worst slump in 14 years. There's not many shows being made, so half of animators are suddenly out of a job.
@@kit2635 I had a whole graduating class of college classmates from Texas, we realized none of us were ever going to use our animation degrees because the state of the industry is so economically and structurally inhospitable to anyone who can't come in and deliver perfect results immediately and also have the money to move to LA and live there. Had to change our entire career plans immediately after graduating.
When my wife and I were still together, I was resigned to the fact that my programming-AI is coming for programmers, too-and CAD skills would support us while she pursued animation. We’re living in a system that survives on modern slavery. I’m ashamed to be surprised that it’s coming for the rest of us.
thanks!
I'm a 3D artist and I cant find work at the time due to the WGA strike going on (studios arent hiring since there's less work), but I am totally on their side and I am celebrating that VFX artists at Marvel are starting to unionize too!! The entertainment industry can be rough
Either way, working during a strike makes you unqualified to join a union, so it's a good thing you didn't.
I'm not a writer but, as someone who studied art to become a game artist, we are in the same position and I want to thank you for this video
I felt depressed for the last few months, since ai """"art"""" became a thing and seeing how some don't seem to value us at all, so seeing someone support and talk for us is so refreshing
Woof game devs need to strike ASAP
@@yitzakIr We need to strike before Henry Ford puts all us horse breeders out of business with his new "car" thing. Ford doesn't value us at all!
@@heath_00000 if only a horse could breed me
@@fynnli6685 based and horsiepilled
Definitely sending you love. You can enjoy ai art, but I think what really makes art cool is the personal touch. Everyone has a different style and I love it.
This video is a great breakdown of why we need the arts, writers, and... teachers. We have devalued the arts so thoroughly that people don't even know how to support them right now with the rise of AI. But you're right, if we don't figure this out then goodbye to all other jobs.
Yes!
drew is totally in his element when he talks about the state of entertainment
The bear, better call saul, & barry is prob the best shows we have gotten in the last couple years. We don’t deserve them.
imagine if someone said "yeah you couldve easily written BCS with chatgpt and you couldve just asked it to decide which shots to use for which scene
i would personally make sure they will never see the light of day if they said that out lout
Arcame is a great example of what TV could be like. It took 6 years to create 1 season, they never cut corners and ensured that the animators/writers/producers were treated well. In the end they created a masterpiece, with a highly anticipated second season to come. Granted Riot have a bigger budget than most, but I think the point still applies.
Agreed
Arcane inspired me to completely overhaul the story I've been developing since I was in middle school (I'm almost 22 now) the impact it had on my creativity and thought process is not to be understated. I felt like my third eye open with how effective the writing was.
@@corenlavolpe6143 I had a very similar experience. Good luck out there!
@@Amateur_Ambiance Ay! you as well!
How? Arcane felt so meh to me
I think drew really hit a very good point on the head. Even *IF* AI could fully write and produce a TV show. I don't want to watch it. Part of the worth comes from the human aspect of creation. Seeing the real people who made a show is always and amazing part of the experience. ( *cough cough* visual art too, coming from someone who wants to work in an artstic field)
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@@rutherfordgamingofficial Thank you Rutherford Gaming. Glad to have your support in these trying times.
If AI could write them, you wouldn't be able to tell. It also doesn't mean there are no human aspects of it, so your entire point kinda falls apart
@@Pugkin5405 that's exactly what it means, actually. There is no human creation behind an AI. That's what AI Means. ARTIFICIAL Intelligence
@@Pugkin5405 "Human creation" and "human aspects" are different. An AI can write dialogue, but a PERSON has to read it so a PERSON can film it so a a PERSON can edit it. AI can't do all that. And if they can in 20 years, who fucking cares? We can do it now. We will STILL be able to do it in 20 years.
Anyone who genuinely thinks ChatGPT can write good scripts has either never actually read anything it's written or has an 8th grade reading level
Unfortunately most working adults only have an 8th grade reading level.
Give it time.
@@RSmith-qd2uk PlagiaristBot's creative writing is never going to be more complex than a high schooler's summary of someone else's work. It's all "X and Y go on adventures and live happily ever after".
only ai coin bros believe in something like this
have you ever watched most of what's airing right now? you don't need anything above an 8th grade writing level to make content for 99% of viewers
I love that statement “everything is a remake”. As we see with the HBO/ Discovery merger that led to so many original, unique stories being pulled; also how we learned why the Star Wars trilogy artistic choices were inconsistent: it’s not the creatives but the companies. The same way we notice the nepotism in front of the screen, it’s happening behind it as well. AI is a profit line as remakes and franchises used to be sufficient but the audience no longer wants. Those who want AI still come with the belief that STEM and algorithms are superior to everything yet they balk at having to learn social sciences as to why sooner rather than later, we aren’t computers. This was a great video. That’s all.
The comment about "what if all public school teachers went on strike at the same time" is actually something that happened. In Arizona, during my last year of high school in 2019, teachers went on strike because the pay/benefits were (are) horrendous. Multiple schools shut down because nobody was there to teach classes. Some schools had to extend their academic years because they didn't meet the school day quota. The strike lasted about 2 weeks or so and it had a huge impact on the community. It was called "Red for Ed" since people would wear red to show their support. But it seems we haven't even learned from it because we reelected the same governor that year and teachers still get treated like crap.
I interviewed for a desk job at a high school and instead was recommended for a TA job and like babes it's $100 a day only when school is in session. Bullshit!!! Pay educators better!!!!!
fun fact, the county i grew up in isnt allowed to strike
Local politics is not given the attention it deserves. They are the people that will touch your families lives more directly than the presidents changes will.
@@Natalie-hg3gh When I found out that in the USA educators are paid only when the schools are open I was SHOCKED! This makes no sense!
hello arizona homie i am equally frustrated with how our state treats education and im glad to see a fellow arizonan who still cares! it seems like everyone put the stickers on their car and bought the red shirts and them promptly forgot all about the actual teachers that inspired Red for Ed
Drew’s passion and understanding of TV is legitimately so cool
My dad works in the arab music industry as a composer. Composers are usually extremely overlooked in Western music, but they're acknowledged and recognized in Eastern places. He always tells me to respect the poets and writers who give him the possibility to compose. Even in the arab music industry, poets and writers are paid next to nothing, there's no clear agency or management for them either, and they have to struggle paycheck to paycheck barely getting the minimum wage. Since my dad's always worked freelance, he tends to pay poets a lot more than what they normally get paid, and so work between them is extremely frequent.
It's really sad that people give no real value to those responsible for making everything happen. I mean, show, movie, song, and even book writers are severely overlooked and underpaid. It's not only disrespectful but just shows where your values reside as a human being.
Yeah, I sometimes see original poets/writers commenting on hit songs of big arab musicians that they're happy people enjoyed their lyrics, they'd get maybe 5 likes and that's it, not pinned by the artist, sometimes not even get their names written on the credits, I get really sad how unappreciated they are
I'm also extremely curious to know who your dad is and if I've heard any of his music, lol, are we talking khaliji music or Egyptian music (a.k.a as a 90s baby, Amr Mostafa) or sham music?
I would say that American composers, generally the producer, is given plenty of credit and generally treated quite well. In fact, legendary producers are sometimes more popular than legendary singers/songwriters/rappers, etc
@@vahgarimo9864 true. and being both a poet and a composer put you in goat contention. AKA Kanye West (jonah hill is the real goat tho because now i can mention kanye and not be ostracised).
I’m purposely rewatching this because the strike is announced to be over. It’ll be official as of like midnight tomorrow but I’m glad that it finally worked out for the best
The fact that just a few seconds of two rocks on a cliff can STILL make me tear up should be proof enough that there are insanely creative people out there making amazing art and they need to be protected at all costs
What show is that?
@@nazmmetin1862 the movie: Everything Everywhere All At Once. It's really good!
@@undercover_idiot Do you also know the soldier one he showed?
@@nazmmetin1862 that one is called 1917 :) highly highly recommend!
Two new movie recs in one day 🥺🙌🏾
I genuinely hope from the bottom of my heart those writers don’t write a single sentence until they’re properly compensated.
Agreed
Once I saw new videos from Danny, Kurtis, and Scott, I knew that Drew wouldn’t be far behind. Somehow those guys are all on the same cycle at this point. You get one, you’re gonna get four in relatively short order.
ah, yeah, i’ve heard cycles can sync up if you spend enough time together. always thought it was myth
(/j)
I'm very sorry, who's Scott?
@@warmgoodrob5611 scott cramer another commentary youtuber :)
Scott?
@@shrekshronk3469 Scott Cramer
Could you imagine your food being delivered by someone who wrote the movie you just went to see in cinemas or the season you just finished on Netflix?
That's what I was thinking. Imagine Megan Ganz, writer of my favourite puns in my favourite episodes of one my favourite shows- one of my favourite experiences- delivering my pizza.
My reaction would depend on the movie, they might be better at delivering food than writing.
@@Zeus17xthat would be pretty stupid that you went to see a movie written by someone you think deserves to serve pizza rather than write a movie lol
@@aryanram02
How would you know if the writer is pizza-tier without seeing the movie first? 🤔
I'm currently doing my bachelor's in creative writing and every damn day it gets more and more disheartening because the industry I want to so desperately be apart of treat the people who come up with the ideas and stories and the literal core of every movie and show like absolute ass. Thank you for making a video on the strike and how important it is, I genuinely hope more people realize that writers and storytellers are the backbone of art and culture.
From my classmates, coworkers and the bottom of my heart, support writers; support the up and coming novelist in your town, support the one who's been writing script draft after script draft, support the ones who get jobs, support the ones that get rejected, support the ones in theatre and the ones that work at bookstores, the writers who go into journalism, the writers who go into blogging, support your niece who writes bad fanfiction, support your brother who comes up with huge fantasy stories. Every writer, new, old, in the industry or just starting out, need all the damn support they can get.
yep, as someone who is also doing Bachelor's in lit for the same, i agree. Hey also, i would love to talk more about creative writing if we could connect.
Doing my bachelors in education rn so I get how you feel
Should've breached into the industry with a business degree. A creative writing degree is worthless to Hollywood
@@elenagonzalez8463 good luck. The world needs more people genuinely invested in education even if it remains extremely under-funded.
Damn man that’s why I didn’t get into video game development because they always treat them like ass
Hey, remember. Writers are one of the MAIN reasons you get to enjoy the stories you do. The good content, the great movies, the catchy songs, the addictive tv shows --- ALL OF IT. Writers have to write and rewrite scripts -- sometimes on location -- SO MANY times. It is an insanely stressful job with little return and they don't even make much money off it in the long-run due to streaming bullshit. We HAVE to fight for writers to get better pay --- in fact, they deserve MUCH, MUCH better pay and benefits than they are currently asking for, which is a measly sliver of what big execs get for doing next to nothing.
do you know of any way we can help the writers? like with petitions or something?
@@atrvcious They have mostly been asking people to donate to the Entertainment Fund mostly to help out the crew whose productions will be shut down because of this.
You can picket if you're in the area.
You can spread word on social media. Like news spreads faster then it used to and social media wasnt the powerhouse that it was in 08. Hell Drew making this and it being the #1 trending video (as of me writing this comment) is probably doing alot for the WGA right now.
You could probably email services like Netflix and Co urging them to give into writers.
There hasnt been a call for a boycott of any of the platforms yet but keep your eyes open.
Maybe if there were any good shows produced in the last 5 years I'd have some sympathy for them.
@@gurigura4457 skip to 12:23 I think it applies here
@@gurigura4457 jeez dude, we get it. you're braindead. you don't have to broadcast that everywhere.
As someone who wants to become a writer, I don't want my job to be treated as a gig job, especially when movies make hundreds of millions yet writers can barely make ends meet. And because the WGA and the studios and producers are so far apart, the strike isn't ending any time soon.❤
Me too
Don't live in California and you'll make ends meet
@@ih8theantichrist what are you talking about, we need to get these work from home LOSERS back into the office, they HAVE to live in california >:(
That's how I feel about the food delivery that I'm quitting: it's hazardous to be on the street for so long because people in traffic (and out of it, I almost ran over a teenager thinking he should run across the street barely a few meters away from my motorcycle) are always trying to make you crash, then you get paid per delivery, are expected to work 6 or 7 days a week, pay every maintenance on your vehicle, have no vacations and no work accident compensation whatsoever, as if "oops, you had an accident during work" became invalid when you don't "actually work" and just have "a side gig that coincidentally takes up the same time and even more effort".
Worse even are the people who keep treating it as a side gig because "lol get a real job" when my "not real job" feeds at least a hundred people just on the restaurant I work at, with the city having dozens of them open at the same time and easily amounting to thousands of deliveries each day... thousands of people get fed by people with fake jobs and I'm supposed to suck it up.
@@ih8theantichrist yeah dont live where most media in the US is written and produced! very smart! how about just paying writers their worth for the job?
I love Drew’s thorough breakdowns on topics he’s passionate about, like this.
As an artist, I find your perspective on Ai refreshing. Sometimes I feel like I’m surrounded by people with no value for creative work. It’s exhausting. I feel like watching this video gave me more tools in my arsenal to defend my fucking career choice 😂 everybody wants cool games, shows, decor, etc until they realize they need an artistic human to WORK and create a quality product for them 🙄
fr like it’s so sad to see people not appreciate art while simultaneously enjoying it. i would rather the science and technological and business fields have so involvement than art .
As a visual artist, thanks for sharing your opinions on A.I, I feel like most content creators feel differently and hearing your opinion was refreshing. Thanks Danny