If anyone watching this video has updated their 14th or 13th gen intel cpu, to the latest microcode fix. I would love to know if you have noticed any differences in performance, temps under heavy load, basically any changes. Seems like there is a bit of a mixed bag of experiences online from what I'm seeing
Yo whats up 👍, Some people have noticed lower temps, found a few reddit posts, but this post on steam seems like the microcode fix has lowered voltages resulting in lower temps under heavy loads steamcommunity.com/app/949230/discussions/0/4511003584759344630/ But I'm wondering if the damage is already done, I think intel are going to be replacing alot of cpus. I'm gonna keep checking up on this issue, hoping for all those affected that intel sort them out with new cpus. But will be interesting to see how the various different models are affected by the microcode update.
There is a much more simple explanation, its the single core boost that shoves too much voltage into one or two cores , which over time causes degradation on those cores.
No problem. That's the primary issue. The degradation due to heat seems to be a mixed bag, some people have experienced it, some haven't. I have read and seen that with the new microcode update, some users have noticed temp reductions. Especially in the heavy load 100% cpu usage scenarios. Which makes sense as there is less spikes and over pulling of power from the cpus themselves. But by reducing the voltage pull by the cpu, firstly you slow down the copper interconnect degradation and should also get lower temps at the same time reducing the silicon degradation, i think temp degradation would take longer vs the copper interconnects issue. It gets a bit more complicated than this. But this is the base of it in a nutshell. Excuse the length of this reply
@@gettoecoding1058 Well... If you are releasing CPUs just to make them faster than Ryzen and don't care about super high voltage and temps that's what it happens. Money, money, money. But now they are losing a lot of cash.
Apologies for the late reply 😓, so it seems to only be affecting DESKTOP processors, Im presuming you have a LAPTOP with a 13900hx or are planning on buying one, if that is the case I think you are fine, according to what I read online a few days ago. I did see some reddit forums talking about instability possibly affecting laptops with 13th and 14th gen, but most of them were talking about high temps and throttling which is normal for laptop CPU's, I have a older gaming laptop with an intel i5 10300H with a RTX 3060 and that thing hits temps into the 90s while gaming, and it throttles due to those reasons, its not necessarily instability in that case. Laptop processors are just designed differently. Here is the list I managed to find for the DESKTOP processors affected. Intel Core i9 i9-13900KS -14900KS Intel Core i9 i9-13900K -14900K Intel Core i9 i9-13900KF -14900KF Intel Core i9 i9-13900 -14900 Intel Core i7 i7-13700K -14700K Intel Core i7 i7-13700KF -14700KF Intel Core i7 i7-13790F -14790F Intel Core i7 i7-13700F -14700F Intel Core i7 i7-13700 -14700 Intel Core i5 i5-13600K -14600K Intel Core i5 i5-13600KF -14600KF But I have also read that it seems to be any intel 13th or 14th gen DESKTOP processors with a TDP of 65 watts or higher, which is a large range of CPUs
If anyone watching this video has updated their 14th or 13th gen intel cpu, to the latest microcode fix. I would love to know if you have noticed any differences in performance, temps under heavy load, basically any changes. Seems like there is a bit of a mixed bag of experiences online from what I'm seeing
the new microcode does not lower temps , this either means your first explanation is wrong or intel is still having problems.
Yo whats up 👍, Some people have noticed lower temps, found a few reddit posts, but this post on steam seems like the microcode fix has lowered voltages resulting in lower temps under heavy loads
steamcommunity.com/app/949230/discussions/0/4511003584759344630/
But I'm wondering if the damage is already done, I think intel are going to be replacing alot of cpus. I'm gonna keep checking up on this issue, hoping for all those affected that intel sort them out with new cpus. But will be interesting to see how the various different models are affected by the microcode update.
Great explanations !
There is a much more simple explanation, its the single core boost that shoves too much voltage into one or two cores , which over time causes degradation on those cores.
So what's degrading? Copper, silicon?
Yo 👍, The copper interconnects, which then lead to the faults and instability
@@gettoecoding1058 Thanks for the answer🤝 I've searched everywhere and couldn't find the answer.
No problem. That's the primary issue. The degradation due to heat seems to be a mixed bag, some people have experienced it, some haven't. I have read and seen that with the new microcode update, some users have noticed temp reductions. Especially in the heavy load 100% cpu usage scenarios. Which makes sense as there is less spikes and over pulling of power from the cpus themselves. But by reducing the voltage pull by the cpu, firstly you slow down the copper interconnect degradation and should also get lower temps at the same time reducing the silicon degradation, i think temp degradation would take longer vs the copper interconnects issue. It gets a bit more complicated than this. But this is the base of it in a nutshell. Excuse the length of this reply
@@gettoecoding1058 Well... If you are releasing CPUs just to make them faster than Ryzen and don't care about super high voltage and temps that's what it happens. Money, money, money. But now they are losing a lot of cash.
100%, I would love to know how many cpus have been replaced so far, I'm pretty sure we will never know :/
Does this problem also happen in laptops with a Core i9-13900hx?
Apologies for the late reply 😓, so it seems to only be affecting DESKTOP processors,
Im presuming you have a LAPTOP with a 13900hx or are planning on buying one, if that is the case I think you are fine, according to what I read online a few days ago. I did see some reddit forums talking about instability possibly affecting laptops with 13th and 14th gen, but most of them were talking about high temps and throttling which is normal for laptop CPU's, I have a older gaming laptop with an intel i5 10300H with a RTX 3060 and that thing hits temps into the 90s while gaming, and it throttles due to those reasons, its not necessarily instability in that case. Laptop processors are just designed differently.
Here is the list I managed to find for the DESKTOP processors affected.
Intel Core i9 i9-13900KS -14900KS
Intel Core i9 i9-13900K -14900K
Intel Core i9 i9-13900KF -14900KF
Intel Core i9 i9-13900 -14900
Intel Core i7 i7-13700K -14700K
Intel Core i7 i7-13700KF -14700KF
Intel Core i7 i7-13790F -14790F
Intel Core i7 i7-13700F -14700F
Intel Core i7 i7-13700 -14700
Intel Core i5 i5-13600K -14600K
Intel Core i5 i5-13600KF -14600KF
But I have also read that it seems to be any intel 13th or 14th gen DESKTOP processors with a TDP of 65 watts or higher, which is a large range of CPUs
@@gettoecoding1058 Thanks❤️❤️
Underrated video