Regardless of how you feel about The Bad Batch connecting to the sequel trilogy, this feels like something Palpatine would do anyway. Its very in-character for him.
exactly bro, its like bruh who cares if rise of Rey palpatine is a bad movie, its such a palpatine thing to do and makes perfect sense for his character and for this show about clones and cloning
Yeaa. One thing I can say for sure. I don't like ANY of the sequel movies. They have some moments. But zero rewatch value for me. And even tho sheev is the best part of ROS (every time he shows up on screen he does/says something amazing) I always disagreed w the decision to bring him back, for a million reasons But I DO like how these new Disney shows are connecting the loose threads that trilogy created, and I think they've done so very well. Nothing can be done to fix ALL of the problems w those movies. But they're doing a great job dealing w that particular error
I hope the sequels get canned for many reasons but totally agree the empire getting into cloning is the natural progression of the story post clone wars
There's a detail in ep. 3 no one talks about. When Omega says Emerie is a clone, Crosshair switches his blaster from lethal to stun. This fits Crosshair's character so much. Deadly, but loyal to his clone brothers.
I personally don’t have a problem with Palpatine planning for his resurrection 55 years into the future, although even that’s a little long to plan something. Nor do I have any problem with Star Wars trying to explain how he returned in Rise of Skywalker. The problem is, Star Wars tv shows explaining something that the movie itself should’ve explained on its own
more like having to explain why theres a bag of shit there and how the bag of shit got there makes 0 sense and hurts everyones brain when youre trying to tell the story of how the bag of shit got there
@@ryanmccarthy7572 I personally think it’s starting to make sense, but the fact remains that the movie failed to do its job explaining how Palpatine supposedly returned
You can headcanon-override the Bad Batch episodes a bit if you pretend they're just setting up Dark Empire in the old EU where Palpy was attempting (and eventually succeeded) to clone himself. Pretending the sequels never happen helps immensely.
In the old EU cannon, clones were abnormalities in the force. Which is one of the reasons his Dark Empire comic clone bodies deteriorated rapidly. Not to mention the the clones are a surplus, no one will notice their absence. Less bodies to hide. Maybe use them as fodder for other experiments.
Yes, truth be told there is no solid connection to the Disney trilogy yet, it’s also just implied. But the same implications can be used to connect to the dark empire comic in the EU which I will choose over Disney inferior version.
Great first 3 episodes. Tightly focused, no filler, moments given time to land, solid pacing and development. Almost felt like I was watching Andor Junior. A welcome return to quality following the weak Mando s3 and Ahsoka. Not crazy about the Palpatine cloning in TRoS or the ham-handed way they set it up in Mando, but here it was handled as well as is possible.
One thing I thought was very interesting during episode 2 was the slither vines, and Hemlock's old destroyed base overrun with his old creations. It reminds me of Cassian Andor's home planet essentially being erased on record for what the Empire did to it.
George Lucas initially filmed in Tunisia because the cost of building sets was smaller. It is a lot cheaper to build an igloo in the middle of a desert than a street in the center of a futuristic city with vehicles flying around. That trend has continued throughout all of the Skywalker Saga films. Nearly all of the actual live action sets are located in sparsely populated areas. CGI animation like we saw in the prequels, and now The Volume sound stages were created for this very reason. Costs. You need to move, house, and feed a LOT of people to film outside of a studio. You need technical people to handle the lighting, sounds, and video. You need more people to build sets, maintain costumes, apply makeup to the actors, etc. This get can get really expensive, really fast. The Volume allows all of the support people to work in one place. They can even go to their own homes every night and feed themselves.
i think we definitely will at least get a look at animated grogu this season, for better or worse. im also scared that theyre gonna inject omega with midichlorians somehow and cause her to become force sensitive, we've learned the blood wont reject it but if it does happen then the question becomes- is it better or worse than the sabine force sensitive reveal
I hope they inject her twin brother with midichlorians and he becomes Snoke. Clone Wars hints at setting this up but the sequel writers dropped the ball.
These episodes were awesome. Poor crosshair's hands shaking so bad that he actually misses his shots was a really interesting development, I'm interested to see where it goes. And its pretty crushing to see Omega, the most positive member of the group, just get ground down by Mt Tantiss.
The difference between live action and animation is pretty simple. The animation group, for whatever reason, is less under the thumb of the DEI side. The WRITING is far better than the garbage being churned out in the live action writing rooms. It ALWAYS boils down to the writing/creative process. In live action (Andor: exception) the writing rooms are infested with Disney's DEI processes. See Film Threat's D-File series for more info on that. While overall directives are adhered to, it seems that there is more 'freedom' in the animation group to just tell good stories. Almost like they've been overlooked.
All three of these first three episodes are fantastic and so well-written and paced. It's very impressive and out of the blue I now care about this show.
Clones are never identical to the DNA donor, that's why you see the variations on the clones. Variations happen every time an animal is cloned in real life. It even happens in bananas and they're clones too from a plant in England
These Midichlorian experiments are interesting. As pointed out, all these clones are genetically identical, so why experiment on all of them? Unless they're searching for genetic mutations they didn't account for being the key they need to latch onto to master cloning of force sensitives, or creating clones that can be made to be force sensitive. Also I'm not sure Midichlorian concentration was ever genetic in the first place, it seemed to appear randomly, yet also in bloodlines. I suppose if there is a genetic mutation out there that explains why the midichlorians link to some people and not others, that could explain the random occurrences and the lineage ones. Just thinking out loud, but didn't life originate from the wellspring of life which was the source of midichlorians. Not sure such an organism can appear in all sorts of species, but only those with specific genetic markers, despite the fact that all these different species may not even do DNA the same way. It is interesting though, and although I'm against bringing Palpatine back, it does feel in his character to be doing everything he can to stay alive. (Though I guess he gave up on manipulating the midichlorians to create life).
Actually clones aren't identical. Clones we can make now in the present are never genetically identical to each other or the host donor of the DNA. The fact that you can get variations like Clone Force 99 is proof they use the same technique as us.
I was very pleased with these first three episodes. The Bad Batch is my favorite thing from Disney Star Wars and I am living for the tonal shift that this season is bringing. I can’t wait to see how it wraps up.
These 3 episodes were legitametely good and I don’t see the connection to the Disney trilogy yet. If anything I can still connect this show to the EU and to heir of the empire and dark empire which I prefer over Disneys version.
It could be just them trying to make force sensitive clones, not necessarily Palpatine. This is what I imagine when I watch it. Helps to forget the sequels
IMO animation is always better for fantasy and science fiction, so I would love if they did more animated shows instead of live action.Maybe remake the movies in the clones wars style.
Omega is special and is a force sensitive clone, they knew that and they want to use her blood for reborn palps. This show never goes crazy with its ideas or lore
Still Omega is in someway an altered clone. Cause if you clone someone they will be the same, same sex haircolor etc. So maybe she has a greater acceptance to the midiclorians. Also heard a theory that the force itself was involved in it. Then her being accepted by midiclorians is not so surprising. Nala Se probably has the answer
It’s interesting to me that the opening comment assumes all the clowning retcon work Disney is doing is trying to fool future generations into believing it was the plan all along. Ascribing bad motivations to Disney has become a default. What if the are just trying to fill in the gaping holes they created with the disjointed storytelling in the sequels? Not a deception, but a sincere effort to fix their mistakes. It’s exactly what worked for the prequels. Those were completely different kinds of holes (relationships that advanced the plot but made no sense in the scenes we actually saw on screen, for example). But The Clone Wars and other media came along and filled in those gaps. 25 years later the generation who watched that era “in order” love the prequels and barely notice all the holes in the actual movies. Why wouldn’t Disney believe that will work again?
Its Impossible for me to see the sequels as canon it just doesn't work in my head but I liked these episodes because trying to "cheat death" is something palpatine was referenced as trying to achieve in ROTS.
Hmm. I dunno... I kinda don't really have a problem per se with Palpy wanting to clone himself. Maybe since i really loved the old dark horse comics from EU, it just seemed like a very Palpy thing to do really. Not to mention as a long time player of SWTOR, there was Emperor Vitiate, and his pursuit of immortality that even got the player character involved. There's probably other sith throughout the ages like that, that I am forgetting about. So it's like... there is a precedent for sith wanting to live forever, possess people etc. That said, yeah the sequels did a very poor job of implementing it, when trying to make it "canon". If they were going to take inspiration from EU content, they should have gone whole hog instead of giving a passing nod, then having to backfill with all these shows.
I agree. In my dream world we would have gotten stories of the Thrawn Trilogy. I'm bummed that they axed it and then disseminated all the parts to other shows like Ahsoka and Bad Batch. I feel like they have done it well here but I wish they would have given us the stories we have waited decades to see.
I didn't go into these three episodes expecting epic happenings, honestly, a progressive, logical story-arc going forward is best. I think we all knew that behind the scenes, Palpatine had people working on cloning for his purposes. The question is what exactly will the scientists gain by adding "midis" to non Force sensitive people? Palpatine possessing Omega's body some day? Or any other Fett clone's body? Success there really wouldn't help with his own Palpatine clones, except to demonstrate that it could be done. The question that is NEVER asked about Omega and that other female Fett clone is how they made two females from male DNA? Men's Y Chromosome lacks an 'arm' that women with two X Chromosomes have, so to produce her, more genetic material would have to be inserted. Even if this material was extracted from Jango's DNA, it's placement to form a second X chromosome would result in an offspring rather than a clone. Of course this is Sci-Fi, but making a biological female clone from a male is nothing simply done. Yet never once did this come up in TBB. You really can't make a clone from the opposite sex, it would be more of an offspring rather than a perfect clone. You can look at Omega and see that clearly she is not a Fett. Jango didn't have blonde hair or pale skin, so obviously there is some different DNA there.
I feel like there is less meddling with the writing in animation. The live actions projects have the same head guys but new writers who haven’t written Star Wars before or only did one episode and they get a whole show. Add 10x more higher up visibility and mandated revisions and you get a crap sandwich. Budget is somewhat irrelevant when you see how much money gets thrown at these projects and they still look like they’re fan made
Palatine's cloning in this show can be super intriguing (which I think it is) but none of it really matters if they lead back to the sequels, This doesn't even begin to fix them, the line "somehow Palatine retuned" is very stupid and lazy but in the grand scheme of things that line does nothing, are they going to make 3 or 4 shows to explain why Rey learns the force randomly, are they going to show why the republic is completely incompetent in the sequels and let the first order take over, are they going to explain why Luke sucks, are they going to explain the ancient sith dagger that also lines up with the deathstar wreckage? Explaining Palatine's return fixes nothing, heck if you were into the EU you already knew with Force Unleashed, the canceled Battlefront 3, and Dark Empire that all showed Palatine's obsession with force sensitive clones, the fact Palatine clones himself isn't the problem, its the sequels themselves they're just so unredeemable it drags down every show that even hints at them.
Everything is redeemable, even Darth Vader. If enough people want those things explained they will explain them in shows and comics and movies. Star Wars has always been this way. They never explain Luke and Leigh making out. The line “somehow Palpatine returned” is equally stupid and genius at the same time because they were obviously setting up to tell more stories (like this one). If they didn’t try to make the sequels make sense I think that would be worse than ignoring them.
@@mkhud50n No, not everything is redeemable. The sequels are an incoherent trilogy by themselves, and they need to be trashed. You completely missed what I was saying "somehow Palpatine returned" is completely stupid and lazy, but it's probably one of the things that needs explained least in a trilogy of bad decisions and lore breaking plot holes, Luke and Leia kissing isn't a plot hole, maybe a bit strange, but literally changes nothing. And I don't hear anyone asking for this to be explained, if anything i hear the exact opposite to never mention the sequels ever again and to just ignore them, which i agree with completely, not inject the shows people actually like with something they actively ask less of. The best part about shows like bad batch and Mando season 1 and 2 was because it reminded us of old Star Wars, real Star Wars before the dark times, before the sequels.
@@ilikepokemans54 so your opinions are all that matters, the most meme-able line from the sequels doesn’t need an explanation because you never hear about people wanting the explanation because you read some books most people haven’t, you think Disney is going to ignore the sequels they spent billions on, confuse unexplained plot points as plot holes. Got it.
@@mkhud50n No, my opinion is not the only one that matters, but I guarantee you most fans want the sequels to be ignored, and they'd be making a lot more money if they didn't shit on their fan base. There's too much stuff in the sequels that don't belong, like the force dyad crap it's not real Star Wars and no one wants it
@@ilikepokemans54 a lot of people want them ignored but they are not in the majority. It’s a pipe dream to think they’d flush the saga down the trash and waste billions in potential revenue with a few patches here and there in shows, comics. All people talked about for a couple years was “who is Snoke?” They did put a ton of stupid stuff in there but it’s financially smarter to build on it. I don’t want the saga to end not making sense. If they can make it make sense I won’t cringe as hard if I know the details if I watch them again. Also the force dyad was always a part of Star Wars ie “power couplings”. It just didn’t have a name. That’s master and apprentices, the outreached hand offering to remake the galaxy. C-3PO actually sums up the entire saga in ESB when he says “the negative power coupling has destabilized”. Vader and Palpatine were the power coupling. 🤫 Quit watching Star Wars and you’ll be fine.
the only part im SLIGHTLY disappointed about is this all tying into episode 9, though honestly i dont think the idea of the emperor trying to clone himself is bad exactly, it makes sense that he would do that
I wonder why animation is able to tell a better story than LFs other content besides mando 1-2 and andor. The only thing I can think is executive meddling and maybe better staff writers on the animation side
On your bit about animation and live action, live action is going to be taken more seriously than animation due to real people playing the roles. It takes more to suspend disbelief with live action than with animation, which we all know isn't real.
Hey, Thor. What do you think the reaction would be to Sidious pursuing cloning in this time period, if it might have been received better had we never seen the outcome of it in the Sequel Trilogy? Obviously, I there are a million "what if" questions we could ask about changing various elements of that trilogy, but I think fans would give the idea more leniency if we weren't privy to the result. That's kind of how I've been treating the little bit of Star Wars I've liked from Disney, as though we still don't know what happens after the Original Trilogy. I recognize that isn't the intention of the creators, nor is it ideal, but we do not live in ideal times for Star Wars. I've never been a fan of Sidious returning, either in the movies or the comics/novels (I've never read them, though), but I think it makes total sense for him to at least pursue the option. Everything he does is calculated, and I don't know that Sidious would have invested as much in the clones simply to have a supply of warriors if he were just going to discard them after the war. I think the great thing about a show like this is it provides an opportunity to show all the things our heroes and villains tried in the midst of the main story that didn't quite pan out, and I believe this is a natural progression of his story and motivations.
I completely agree with the comment about the animation being better than the live action. Somehow, the animation feels like real Star Wars, whereas the live action stuff seems more like an imitation of what George Lucas created.
I usually agree with Thor, we seem to be a similar age and to have had similar experiences with Star Wars and other hobbies. In this case I’m concerned, I felt good about both Kenobi and Ahsoka in the early episodes but they declined over time. I can already see a concern on this one. If Omega is an unaltered clone and has a high M count, does that mean Boba and Jango have high M counts too? It feels more like they haven’t fully learned from “we didn’t have a plan” and instead have seen a chance to link a popular series with a less well loved trilogy.
Now that some revelations were made in those episodes its pretty baffling to conclude Disney based two shows on the same concept: a special being (Omega and Grogu) being chased to use his/her M-count. The Star Wars univers is supposed to be at least one if not two galaxie(s). Yet they succeed in cloning (pun intended) their own story line. Lazy bunch.
"same concept: a special being (Omega and Grogu) being chased to use his/her M-count." No. You were clearly not paying attention. Omega's not special because of her M-count. She's special, because she's able to receive an M-count transfer, without said M-count deteriorating. She's another part of the puzzle.
tbh I just want more things in this style of animation but the only thing I dislike from the Disney animated projects is that there's to much silence (music doesn't count for me) and not enough emotions being told with words of the characters (I'm looking at you Tales of the Jedi). Overall I liked these first 3 episodes but it's sad to see our beloved clones go. Hope there will be something else animated with this style in the future after this.
I definitely found this to be a much better start to the season than last season I definitely found the second episode to be the weakest one I mean I like how it shows even how the young clone cadets got the short end of the stick with the Empire but still, I think it could’ve been a bit better, but even that it definitely wasn’t the worst episode we got the series I highly doubt anything is gonna top season two episode five that holds the metal for my least favorite episode of the series the third episode was damn good as well, although crosshair and omega escaping is only gonna last so long and of course Ian slays palatine once more and the way, Hemlock, almost certainly almost died was pretty damn intense, had palpatine found out an escape was happening while he was their. Finally I really hate to bring this up. I’m trying not to let this dictate how I view the episodes mainly the third episodes I just really think it’s stupid that they keep shoving in sequel connections and hoping people don’t notice seriously it’s been confirmed for nearly 4 years. The sequels had no plan the more they try and explain them away the worse it looks I’m sorry they’re not fooling anyone…
Hey Thor, I have a question for you. How long should people wait before talking spoilers? Going into this season my roommates and I needed to have a discussion about when any of the four of us can discuss what happened in fear of any of the others overhearing. Also what about spoilers in the titles of web articles? I remember in the second season of Mandelorian there was a screen rant article titled something along the lines of "Why Luke Skywalker Arriving Actually Makes Sense". I want your perspective as someone who's even more connected to the star wars community than I am.
I would like to think/hope that, when it comes to articles and video titles/thumbnails, that people would wait at least a weak to include spoilers in them, which is what I usually try to do. However, the battle for clicks is so big that most just immediately put spoilers everywhere now.
Palpatine returning via cloning was an awful idea, back when the EU did it, and it was an awful idea when Disney did it. However it was not awful for lore reasons in either case. It was awful because of narrative reasons. It invalidates Return of the Jedi. That's said, it's here, it's been done, there's no undoing TROMS, Star Wars is stuck with it, just like the EU was stuck with Dark Empire. However this idea, that with fleshing out how it was done in-universe is equal to "Lucasfilm is trying to tell us they always planned to do this" is just as mindnumblingly stupid. Palpatine did seek immortality, that was made very clear in ROTS. It's perfectly in-character for him to set-up a large operation like this in order to accomplish that goal. Just ignore the rehash-trilogy, and pretend the operation was ultimately a failure.
I always thought the preserved Jedi in Kenobi were done in an attempt to prevent their physical forms from becoming one with the force to pervert the Jedi Ideals even more
Guys, about the Dog, they translated into Beth in Portuguese. So... She's a good girl! About talking about it on social media, well... I want to see until the end first. Disney has a horrible habit of ruining things... Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
If the cloning part of the story had nothing to do with "Somehow Palpatine returned" then it could be interesting. But we all know this is being done to try and fix the unfixable ST, just like they have been trying to do in The Mandalorian and Ahsoka.
A magic kid the empire is hunting for to do clone shenanigans?!?! Wow Dave Feloni is sooooooo original. But hey we will finally have a mandalorian Jedi!
1: Not even the most ardent Filoni fans ever claimed he was very original. We like him, because he tells good stories. We recognise he's fairly derivative, and we don't care, because his execution is always solid. 2: Filoni is not even that deeply involved in TBB. His role is the same as Lucas's was on TCW. He is closely overseeing the production, but he's not the showrunner. 3: The fandoms obsession with mandalorian Jedi is beyond ridiculous.
I liked all the episodes and trying to figure out what happened to all the clones. I did like your thoughts on the Jedi and how they are probably being used as science materials for Hemlock. I do love Crosshair and his arc so far. I can't wait to see where it goes. Also the rest of the team and Omega.
They definitely would have had problems trying to shoot Kamino Lost from s1 in live action. I don't know if I'm excited, but my curiosity is definitely peaked.
Hey Thor, I have a question for you. We see in the Vader comics that he goes to Exegol and sees some of the clones palps has there. So, I’m assuming Vader knew about all this. After that comic Vader realizes he can’t beat palpatine and rejoins him as his apprentice. So, would Vader approve of what’s going on in Mt. Tantiss? I’m going to assume again he probably wouldn’t because that would mean Vader would never have a shot at the throne.
The thing is, Vader never had a shot at becoming Emperor. After his loss on Mustafar, Palpatine no longer viewed him as a successor and focused on extending his own life and reign.
@@elmermedina1713yes. I should’ve said he in some ways he wanted to kill palpatine even though he’d lost hope. So, would he be in support of palpatine cloning himself because there are times I know he’s wanted to kill palps for the throne? Even if it wasn’t in his reach he did think about it. I am simply curious about vaders thoughts on cloning palpatine.
Why is filler a bad thing? Basicly a lot of shows are only self contained stories so what is the problem? I love episodes that are self contained like "monster of the week".
Wish I could get into the animated stuff again, but I only made it through a couple episodes of season 1. There's just too much filler and more kid-oriented stuff than I can put up with these days for some reason
?!? Can we please make-up our minds??? It's bad, if it's tied to a larger story, it's "filler kid's stuff" if it's not. Star Wars fans really are an unpleaseable bunch.
The prequels sucked though Ep III was modestly okay. Remember that? I was a believer in that because I grew up with the original trilogy and many of the Legends books. After watching Mandalorian and digging it, I watched the Clone Wars and Rebels and now have softened on the prequels. The Sequels? Garbage. But, if Filoni and Favreau tell new stories that improve on the mess started and finished by JJ, I’m all for it. We can pine for the idea of Rian given all Sequel movies to tell a story, but we got what we got. So let’s accept the goal to make the stories we dislike a little better.
All this, to explain how Palps returned. I'd prefer if they spent their resources to find a way to make the sequels non-existent. I guess I'll just wait until Disney goes bankrupt, Elon Musk buys it and simply removes them from canon.
the problem is mediocrity is awarded, this show isnt amazing or good by any strech, its OK. theres a problem when you say nothing happens but it was good. that doesn't make sense. imagine going to a restaurant and saying my food is bland but its good. bad batch had an good concept but terrible execution.
Such a shame that a show about a team of clones with unique abilities mentoring the true sister of Boba Fett turned into a story about a blood donor muguffin whose only purpose is to justify some sequel trilogy nonsense.
It's weird how a series of episodes as good as these are picking up the pieces for the abysmal plot of episode 9. It's really making a silk purse out of a sows ear. And its a real return to form for emotional storytelling after Ahsoka was so businesslike and frankly forgettable
It was boring and somewhat cringe to me. Omeeega is just as annoying as young Ahsoka in CW and it makes zero sense why any clone would have a different M count than the host. Makes even less sense that they would test the same clone's blood over and over for months expecting different results.
Maybe I will catch up on season 3 when it is finished and if the reviews are good, but the truth is I've lost interest. It has nothing to do with it being a cartoon. I've started reading through the EU again and am reminded of how much better it was than Disney Star Wars. I am currently working through the X-Wing series by Michael A. Stackpole. The closest anyone has come to even holding a candle to the EU is Rogue One and Andor, and the first two seasons of the Mandalorian. The idea of cloning does not bother me because this was canon in the EU as well. I just don't want to watch it connect to a terrible sequel trilogy.
I will just put this out there regarding “predictable plot points”…unlike real life actors/movies they have to animate literally everything…including subtlety. I mean you can get something animated with plot and all of it like a Miyazaki film…you will just get things every 10 years or so. So for what this is the amount of craft put into what is supposedly season 3 of a kids show is amazing.
I may have said this before on one of your other channels. But I'm gonna tell you. I don't understand why it is that Lucas film can put out such great animated series. Yet they get do it with live action it's pathetic
hey thor…. please don’t take this as me being a hater or negative i’m just calling how i see it. they reused scenes multiple times on the first episode. and the second episode i feel like ive seen 4 times. a bunch of little spider monsters and using explosives to get away from the big boss. i had to turn it off after the second episode it was really bad and low effort to me(excluding animation and music as always)
@@nightgirlgaming1985 He is talking about how they had multiple similar looking shots to help establish how Omega is stuck in a cycle at this prison and clearly does not understand good story telling.
I get it. I watch this show for the hope of getting something good. I struggle through many episodes I find boring and subpar to get to nuggets of things I enjoy. I have been tempted to stop many times but i usually get just enough to keep me coming back.
Regardless of how you feel about The Bad Batch connecting to the sequel trilogy, this feels like something Palpatine would do anyway. Its very in-character for him.
exactly bro, its like bruh who cares if rise of Rey palpatine is a bad movie, its such a palpatine thing to do and makes perfect sense for his character and for this show about clones and cloning
happens in Legends, too.
Yeaa. One thing I can say for sure. I don't like ANY of the sequel movies. They have some moments. But zero rewatch value for me. And even tho sheev is the best part of ROS (every time he shows up on screen he does/says something amazing) I always disagreed w the decision to bring him back, for a million reasons
But I DO like how these new Disney shows are connecting the loose threads that trilogy created, and I think they've done so very well. Nothing can be done to fix ALL of the problems w those movies. But they're doing a great job dealing w that particular error
I hope the sequels get canned for many reasons but totally agree the empire getting into cloning is the natural progression of the story post clone wars
Why would he have made Snoke if this was the plan all along??
There's a detail in ep. 3 no one talks about. When Omega says Emerie is a clone, Crosshair switches his blaster from lethal to stun. This fits Crosshair's character so much. Deadly, but loyal to his clone brothers.
And sisters as it happens😁
Omega kicking the mouse droid made me love her. I always liked her but now she is my favorite of the show
I thought that little mouse sh*t was gonna be the downfall of her escape plan, but im glad she just gave it the boot
I personally don’t have a problem with Palpatine planning for his resurrection 55 years into the future, although even that’s a little long to plan something. Nor do I have any problem with Star Wars trying to explain how he returned in Rise of Skywalker.
The problem is, Star Wars tv shows explaining something that the movie itself should’ve explained on its own
It's odd we've only seen the beginning and the very end
You can also easily say that this leads to Dark Empire or the experiments ultimately fail
more like having to explain why theres a bag of shit there and how the bag of shit got there makes 0 sense and hurts everyones brain when youre trying to tell the story of how the bag of shit got there
@@ryanmccarthy7572 I personally think it’s starting to make sense, but the fact remains that the movie failed to do its job explaining how Palpatine supposedly returned
Palpatine shouldn’t have returned. They are just too uncreative to make a good antagonist.
You can headcanon-override the Bad Batch episodes a bit if you pretend they're just setting up Dark Empire in the old EU where Palpy was attempting (and eventually succeeded) to clone himself. Pretending the sequels never happen helps immensely.
6:45 Naboo just blew my mind lol. I wonder if it would seem like an awesome payoff if someone watches it chronologically in 10 years.
In the old EU cannon, clones were abnormalities in the force. Which is one of the reasons his Dark Empire comic clone bodies deteriorated rapidly. Not to mention the the clones are a surplus, no one will notice their absence. Less bodies to hide. Maybe use them as fodder for other experiments.
Yes, truth be told there is no solid connection to the Disney trilogy yet, it’s also just implied. But the same implications can be used to connect to the dark empire comic in the EU which I will choose over Disney inferior version.
I have an unshakeable feeling most of them will die
Great first 3 episodes. Tightly focused, no filler, moments given time to land, solid pacing and development. Almost felt like I was watching Andor Junior. A welcome return to quality following the weak Mando s3 and Ahsoka. Not crazy about the Palpatine cloning in TRoS or the ham-handed way they set it up in Mando, but here it was handled as well as is possible.
My theory on Cody is he was captured after his escape. He now is the assassin Clone we saw getting into the elevator in ep 2 I think it was.
I like that better than the tech theory that Star Wars theory is throwing out
One thing I thought was very interesting during episode 2 was the slither vines, and Hemlock's old destroyed base overrun with his old creations. It reminds me of Cassian Andor's home planet essentially being erased on record for what the Empire did to it.
George Lucas initially filmed in Tunisia because the cost of building sets was smaller. It is a lot cheaper to build an igloo in the middle of a desert than a street in the center of a futuristic city with vehicles flying around.
That trend has continued throughout all of the Skywalker Saga films. Nearly all of the actual live action sets are located in sparsely populated areas.
CGI animation like we saw in the prequels, and now The Volume sound stages were created for this very reason. Costs.
You need to move, house, and feed a LOT of people to film outside of a studio. You need technical people to handle the lighting, sounds, and video.
You need more people to build sets, maintain costumes, apply makeup to the actors, etc. This get can get really expensive, really fast.
The Volume allows all of the support people to work in one place. They can even go to their own homes every night and feed themselves.
i think we definitely will at least get a look at animated grogu this season, for better or worse. im also scared that theyre gonna inject omega with midichlorians somehow and cause her to become force sensitive, we've learned the blood wont reject it but if it does happen then the question becomes- is it better or worse than the sabine force sensitive reveal
I hope they inject her twin brother with midichlorians and he becomes Snoke. Clone Wars hints at setting this up but the sequel writers dropped the ball.
These episodes were awesome. Poor crosshair's hands shaking so bad that he actually misses his shots was a really interesting development, I'm interested to see where it goes. And its pretty crushing to see Omega, the most positive member of the group, just get ground down by Mt Tantiss.
I do like ROGUE ONE, SOLO, and ANDOR- but BB is truly Disney’s finest hour in channeling the feel of the pre-Disney era.
The difference between live action and animation is pretty simple. The animation group, for whatever reason, is less under the thumb of the DEI side. The WRITING is far better than the garbage being churned out in the live action writing rooms.
It ALWAYS boils down to the writing/creative process. In live action (Andor: exception) the writing rooms are infested with Disney's DEI processes. See Film Threat's D-File series for more info on that. While overall directives are adhered to, it seems that there is more 'freedom' in the animation group to just tell good stories. Almost like they've been overlooked.
All three of these first three episodes are fantastic and so well-written and paced. It's very impressive and out of the blue I now care about this show.
The cloning of force sensitives goes back to the book Plagueis and him spending many decades focused just on that.
Clones are never identical to the DNA donor, that's why you see the variations on the clones.
Variations happen every time an animal is cloned in real life. It even happens in bananas and they're clones too from a plant in England
These Midichlorian experiments are interesting. As pointed out, all these clones are genetically identical, so why experiment on all of them? Unless they're searching for genetic mutations they didn't account for being the key they need to latch onto to master cloning of force sensitives, or creating clones that can be made to be force sensitive. Also I'm not sure Midichlorian concentration was ever genetic in the first place, it seemed to appear randomly, yet also in bloodlines. I suppose if there is a genetic mutation out there that explains why the midichlorians link to some people and not others, that could explain the random occurrences and the lineage ones. Just thinking out loud, but didn't life originate from the wellspring of life which was the source of midichlorians. Not sure such an organism can appear in all sorts of species, but only those with specific genetic markers, despite the fact that all these different species may not even do DNA the same way. It is interesting though, and although I'm against bringing Palpatine back, it does feel in his character to be doing everything he can to stay alive. (Though I guess he gave up on manipulating the midichlorians to create life).
Actually clones aren't identical. Clones we can make now in the present are never genetically identical to each other or the host donor of the DNA.
The fact that you can get variations like Clone Force 99 is proof they use the same technique as us.
I was very pleased with these first three episodes. The Bad Batch is my favorite thing from Disney Star Wars and I am living for the tonal shift that this season is bringing. I can’t wait to see how it wraps up.
These 3 episodes were legitametely good and I don’t see the connection to the Disney trilogy yet. If anything I can still connect this show to the EU and to heir of the empire and dark empire which I prefer over Disneys version.
It could be just them trying to make force sensitive clones, not necessarily Palpatine. This is what I imagine when I watch it. Helps to forget the sequels
IMO animation is always better for fantasy and science fiction, so I would love if they did more animated shows instead of live action.Maybe remake the movies in the clones wars style.
Omega is special and is a force sensitive clone, they knew that and they want to use her blood for reborn palps. This show never goes crazy with its ideas or lore
Still Omega is in someway an altered clone. Cause if you clone someone they will be the same, same sex haircolor etc. So maybe she has a greater acceptance to the midiclorians. Also heard a theory that the force itself was involved in it. Then her being accepted by midiclorians is not so surprising. Nala Se probably has the answer
I loved it as I have loved most of the rest of this series. I truly is a hidden gem of Star Wars
It’s interesting to me that the opening comment assumes all the clowning retcon work Disney is doing is trying to fool future generations into believing it was the plan all along. Ascribing bad motivations to Disney has become a default.
What if the are just trying to fill in the gaping holes they created with the disjointed storytelling in the sequels? Not a deception, but a sincere effort to fix their mistakes.
It’s exactly what worked for the prequels. Those were completely different kinds of holes (relationships that advanced the plot but made no sense in the scenes we actually saw on screen, for example). But The Clone Wars and other media came along and filled in those gaps. 25 years later the generation who watched that era “in order” love the prequels and barely notice all the holes in the actual movies.
Why wouldn’t Disney believe that will work again?
Its Impossible for me to see the sequels as canon it just doesn't work in my head but I liked these episodes because trying to "cheat death" is something palpatine was referenced as trying to achieve in ROTS.
Hmm. I dunno... I kinda don't really have a problem per se with Palpy wanting to clone himself. Maybe since i really loved the old dark horse comics from EU, it just seemed like a very Palpy thing to do really. Not to mention as a long time player of SWTOR, there was Emperor Vitiate, and his pursuit of immortality that even got the player character involved. There's probably other sith throughout the ages like that, that I am forgetting about. So it's like... there is a precedent for sith wanting to live forever, possess people etc.
That said, yeah the sequels did a very poor job of implementing it, when trying to make it "canon". If they were going to take inspiration from EU content, they should have gone whole hog instead of giving a passing nod, then having to backfill with all these shows.
I agree. In my dream world we would have gotten stories of the Thrawn Trilogy. I'm bummed that they axed it and then disseminated all the parts to other shows like Ahsoka and Bad Batch. I feel like they have done it well here but I wish they would have given us the stories we have waited decades to see.
They're testing against Sidious's Midi-chlorians.
I had some doubts about the cloning connections but now that has become the thing I’m most interested in this season, can’t wait to see more
I didn't go into these three episodes expecting epic happenings, honestly, a progressive, logical story-arc going forward is best. I think we all knew that behind the scenes, Palpatine had people working on cloning for his purposes. The question is what exactly will the scientists gain by adding "midis" to non Force sensitive people? Palpatine possessing Omega's body some day? Or any other Fett clone's body? Success there really wouldn't help with his own Palpatine clones, except to demonstrate that it could be done. The question that is NEVER asked about Omega and that other female Fett clone is how they made two females from male DNA? Men's Y Chromosome lacks an 'arm' that women with two X Chromosomes have, so to produce her, more genetic material would have to be inserted. Even if this material was extracted from Jango's DNA, it's placement to form a second X chromosome would result in an offspring rather than a clone. Of course this is Sci-Fi, but making a biological female clone from a male is nothing simply done. Yet never once did this come up in TBB. You really can't make a clone from the opposite sex, it would be more of an offspring rather than a perfect clone. You can look at Omega and see that clearly she is not a Fett. Jango didn't have blonde hair or pale skin, so obviously there is some different DNA there.
I feel like there is less meddling with the writing in animation. The live actions projects have the same head guys but new writers who haven’t written Star Wars before or only did one episode and they get a whole show. Add 10x more higher up visibility and mandated revisions and you get a crap sandwich. Budget is somewhat irrelevant when you see how much money gets thrown at these projects and they still look like they’re fan made
Palatine's cloning in this show can be super intriguing (which I think it is) but none of it really matters if they lead back to the sequels, This doesn't even begin to fix them, the line "somehow Palatine retuned" is very stupid and lazy but in the grand scheme of things that line does nothing, are they going to make 3 or 4 shows to explain why Rey learns the force randomly, are they going to show why the republic is completely incompetent in the sequels and let the first order take over, are they going to explain why Luke sucks, are they going to explain the ancient sith dagger that also lines up with the deathstar wreckage? Explaining Palatine's return fixes nothing, heck if you were into the EU you already knew with Force Unleashed, the canceled Battlefront 3, and Dark Empire that all showed Palatine's obsession with force sensitive clones, the fact Palatine clones himself isn't the problem, its the sequels themselves they're just so unredeemable it drags down every show that even hints at them.
Everything is redeemable, even Darth Vader. If enough people want those things explained they will explain them in shows and comics and movies. Star Wars has always been this way. They never explain Luke and Leigh making out. The line “somehow Palpatine returned” is equally stupid and genius at the same time because they were obviously setting up to tell more stories (like this one). If they didn’t try to make the sequels make sense I think that would be worse than ignoring them.
@@mkhud50n No, not everything is redeemable. The sequels are an incoherent trilogy by themselves, and they need to be trashed. You completely missed what I was saying "somehow Palpatine returned" is completely stupid and lazy, but it's probably one of the things that needs explained least in a trilogy of bad decisions and lore breaking plot holes, Luke and Leia kissing isn't a plot hole, maybe a bit strange, but literally changes nothing. And I don't hear anyone asking for this to be explained, if anything i hear the exact opposite to never mention the sequels ever again and to just ignore them, which i agree with completely, not inject the shows people actually like with something they actively ask less of. The best part about shows like bad batch and Mando season 1 and 2 was because it reminded us of old Star Wars, real Star Wars before the dark times, before the sequels.
@@ilikepokemans54 so your opinions are all that matters, the most meme-able line from the sequels doesn’t need an explanation because you never hear about people wanting the explanation because you read some books most people haven’t, you think Disney is going to ignore the sequels they spent billions on, confuse unexplained plot points as plot holes. Got it.
@@mkhud50n No, my opinion is not the only one that matters, but I guarantee you most fans want the sequels to be ignored, and they'd be making a lot more money if they didn't shit on their fan base. There's too much stuff in the sequels that don't belong, like the force dyad crap it's not real Star Wars and no one wants it
@@ilikepokemans54 a lot of people want them ignored but they are not in the majority. It’s a pipe dream to think they’d flush the saga down the trash and waste billions in potential revenue with a few patches here and there in shows, comics. All people talked about for a couple years was “who is Snoke?” They did put a ton of stupid stuff in there but it’s financially smarter to build on it. I don’t want the saga to end not making sense. If they can make it make sense I won’t cringe as hard if I know the details if I watch them again.
Also the force dyad was always a part of Star Wars ie “power couplings”. It just didn’t have a name. That’s master and apprentices, the outreached hand offering to remake the galaxy.
C-3PO actually sums up the entire saga in ESB when he says “the negative power coupling has destabilized”. Vader and Palpatine were the power coupling. 🤫
Quit watching Star Wars and you’ll be fine.
the only part im SLIGHTLY disappointed about is this all tying into episode 9, though honestly i dont think the idea of the emperor trying to clone himself is bad exactly, it makes sense that he would do that
I think that Cody is going to die based off of the reaction that Rex had in the Clone Wars inspired episode of Rebels.
I love the new Naboo voice.
Very Marge Simpson.👍🏾👍🏾
Oh, and the episodes were pretty good.
Why would Palpatine have every Jedi killed if he was searching for high M count creatures ?
I wonder why animation is able to tell a better story than LFs other content besides mando 1-2 and andor. The only thing I can think is executive meddling and maybe better staff writers on the animation side
On your bit about animation and live action, live action is going to be taken more seriously than animation due to real people playing the roles. It takes more to suspend disbelief with live action than with animation, which we all know isn't real.
Hey, Thor. What do you think the reaction would be to Sidious pursuing cloning in this time period, if it might have been received better had we never seen the outcome of it in the Sequel Trilogy? Obviously, I there are a million "what if" questions we could ask about changing various elements of that trilogy, but I think fans would give the idea more leniency if we weren't privy to the result. That's kind of how I've been treating the little bit of Star Wars I've liked from Disney, as though we still don't know what happens after the Original Trilogy. I recognize that isn't the intention of the creators, nor is it ideal, but we do not live in ideal times for Star Wars. I've never been a fan of Sidious returning, either in the movies or the comics/novels (I've never read them, though), but I think it makes total sense for him to at least pursue the option. Everything he does is calculated, and I don't know that Sidious would have invested as much in the clones simply to have a supply of warriors if he were just going to discard them after the war. I think the great thing about a show like this is it provides an opportunity to show all the things our heroes and villains tried in the midst of the main story that didn't quite pan out, and I believe this is a natural progression of his story and motivations.
I completely agree with the comment about the animation being better than the live action. Somehow, the animation feels like real Star Wars, whereas the live action stuff seems more like an imitation of what George Lucas created.
Me personally I forget about palpatine returning and that this stuff is supposed to explain his resurrection. I just be enjoying stuff man
Some of the baby clones and cadets became storm troopers and/purge troopers. Torrent Tx-828 is one of the baby clones at the end of the Clone Wars
Oh god somehow palpatine is in this? Lolol. This is the first show I’m sitting out until things change. I don’t miss it
I usually agree with Thor, we seem to be a similar age and to have had similar experiences with Star Wars and other hobbies. In this case I’m concerned, I felt good about both Kenobi and Ahsoka in the early episodes but they declined over time. I can already see a concern on this one. If Omega is an unaltered clone and has a high M count, does that mean Boba and Jango have high M counts too? It feels more like they haven’t fully learned from “we didn’t have a plan” and instead have seen a chance to link a popular series with a less well loved trilogy.
Note to Disney: There is no *FIXING* the Sequels. Forget about that right now, if that's what you are trying to do.
Now that some revelations were made in those episodes its pretty baffling to conclude Disney based two shows on the same concept: a special being (Omega and Grogu) being chased to use his/her M-count.
The Star Wars univers is supposed to be at least one if not two galaxie(s). Yet they succeed in cloning (pun intended) their own story line.
Lazy bunch.
"same concept: a special being (Omega and Grogu) being chased to use his/her M-count."
No. You were clearly not paying attention. Omega's not special because of her M-count. She's special, because she's able to receive an M-count transfer, without said M-count deteriorating.
She's another part of the puzzle.
@@Verebazs you are nitpicking. Still the same plot device
Not to mention Disney writers have just been stealing from EU and rewriting it to be worse. Lazy indeed.
tbh I just want more things in this style of animation but the only thing I dislike from the Disney animated projects is that there's to much silence (music doesn't count for me) and not enough emotions being told with words of the characters (I'm looking at you Tales of the Jedi). Overall I liked these first 3 episodes but it's sad to see our beloved clones go. Hope there will be something else animated with this style in the future after this.
I definitely found this to be a much better start to the season than last season I definitely found the second episode to be the weakest one I mean I like how it shows even how the young clone cadets got the short end of the stick with the Empire but still, I think it could’ve been a bit better, but even that it definitely wasn’t the worst episode we got the series I highly doubt anything is gonna top season two episode five that holds the metal for my least favorite episode of the series the third episode was damn good as well, although crosshair and omega escaping is only gonna last so long and of course Ian slays palatine once more and the way, Hemlock, almost certainly almost died was pretty damn intense, had palpatine found out an escape was happening while he was their. Finally I really hate to bring this up. I’m trying not to let this dictate how I view the episodes mainly the third episodes I just really think it’s stupid that they keep shoving in sequel connections and hoping people don’t notice seriously it’s been confirmed for nearly 4 years. The sequels had no plan the more they try and explain them away the worse it looks I’m sorry they’re not fooling anyone…
Why didn't they use anakins blood? Surely a cloned body with his high m count would be an ideal host for palpatine
Hey Thor, I have a question for you. How long should people wait before talking spoilers? Going into this season my roommates and I needed to have a discussion about when any of the four of us can discuss what happened in fear of any of the others overhearing. Also what about spoilers in the titles of web articles? I remember in the second season of Mandelorian there was a screen rant article titled something along the lines of "Why Luke Skywalker Arriving Actually Makes Sense". I want your perspective as someone who's even more connected to the star wars community than I am.
I would like to think/hope that, when it comes to articles and video titles/thumbnails, that people would wait at least a weak to include spoilers in them, which is what I usually try to do. However, the battle for clicks is so big that most just immediately put spoilers everywhere now.
Palpatine returning via cloning was an awful idea, back when the EU did it, and it was an awful idea when Disney did it. However it was not awful for lore reasons in either case. It was awful because of narrative reasons. It invalidates Return of the Jedi.
That's said, it's here, it's been done, there's no undoing TROMS, Star Wars is stuck with it, just like the EU was stuck with Dark Empire.
However this idea, that with fleshing out how it was done in-universe is equal to "Lucasfilm is trying to tell us they always planned to do this" is just as mindnumblingly stupid.
Palpatine did seek immortality, that was made very clear in ROTS. It's perfectly in-character for him to set-up a large operation like this in order to accomplish that goal. Just ignore the rehash-trilogy, and pretend the operation was ultimately a failure.
I always thought the preserved Jedi in Kenobi were done in an attempt to prevent their physical forms from becoming one with the force to pervert the Jedi Ideals even more
Guys, about the Dog, they translated into Beth in Portuguese. So... She's a good girl!
About talking about it on social media, well... I want to see until the end first. Disney has a horrible habit of ruining things...
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
The Jedi blood supply idea ties into luminara in rebels where they find "her"
If the cloning part of the story had nothing to do with "Somehow Palpatine returned" then it could be interesting. But we all know this is being done to try and fix the unfixable ST, just like they have been trying to do in The Mandalorian and Ahsoka.
Hey Thor....what would you think of a Star Wars show that was a medical based psychological thriller based on events at Mt.Tantis?
Dave Filoni 🤝🏻 Paul "Triple H" Levesque: not letting Cody finish his story
A magic kid the empire is hunting for to do clone shenanigans?!?! Wow Dave Feloni is sooooooo original. But hey we will finally have a mandalorian Jedi!
1: Not even the most ardent Filoni fans ever claimed he was very original. We like him, because he tells good stories. We recognise he's fairly derivative, and we don't care, because his execution is always solid.
2: Filoni is not even that deeply involved in TBB. His role is the same as Lucas's was on TCW. He is closely overseeing the production, but he's not the showrunner.
3: The fandoms obsession with mandalorian Jedi is beyond ridiculous.
I liked all the episodes and trying to figure out what happened to all the clones. I did like your thoughts on the Jedi and how they are probably being used as science materials for Hemlock. I do love Crosshair and his arc so far. I can't wait to see where it goes. Also the rest of the team and Omega.
Will we get to see Omega become Force Sensitive since her cells can accept a Midichlorian transfer?
It's not that animation works better, it's just that the animation team seems to have better writers.
They definitely would have had problems trying to shoot Kamino Lost from s1 in live action. I don't know if I'm excited, but my curiosity is definitely peaked.
Are we sure that emerie is using a fett dna sample, its possible that she could he a different Donner
I just do not think you should know anything anything outside the Star Ways movies to understand how anything happened to any Star Wars character.
No its very obviously jedi in the tubes, think back to the kenobi scene in fortress inquisitorious. The jedi frozen in amber?
Hey Thor, I have a question for you. We see in the Vader comics that he goes to Exegol and sees some of the clones palps has there. So, I’m assuming Vader knew about all this. After that comic Vader realizes he can’t beat palpatine and rejoins him as his apprentice. So, would Vader approve of what’s going on in Mt. Tantiss? I’m going to assume again he probably wouldn’t because that would mean Vader would never have a shot at the throne.
The thing is, Vader never had a shot at becoming Emperor. After his loss on Mustafar, Palpatine no longer viewed him as a successor and focused on extending his own life and reign.
@@elmermedina1713yes. I should’ve said he in some ways he wanted to kill palpatine even though he’d lost hope. So, would he be in support of palpatine cloning himself because there are times I know he’s wanted to kill palps for the throne? Even if it wasn’t in his reach he did think about it. I am simply curious about vaders thoughts on cloning palpatine.
Why is filler a bad thing?
Basicly a lot of shows are only self contained stories so what is the problem?
I love episodes that are self contained like "monster of the week".
Emerie Karr, F**K YEAH!
I don't know why that only came to me now.
HOLOCRON HEIST clone wars we get Palpatine dabbling with testing Young Jedi Season 3 before Disney
Wish I could get into the animated stuff again, but I only made it through a couple episodes of season 1. There's just too much filler and more kid-oriented stuff than I can put up with these days for some reason
?!? Can we please make-up our minds??? It's bad, if it's tied to a larger story, it's "filler kid's stuff" if it's not. Star Wars fans really are an unpleaseable bunch.
@@Verebazs huh?
The prequels sucked though Ep III was modestly okay.
Remember that?
I was a believer in that because I grew up with the original trilogy and many of the Legends books.
After watching Mandalorian and digging it, I watched the Clone Wars and Rebels and now have softened on the prequels.
The Sequels? Garbage.
But, if Filoni and Favreau tell new stories that improve on the mess started and finished by JJ, I’m all for it.
We can pine for the idea of Rian given all Sequel movies to tell a story, but we got what we got.
So let’s accept the goal to make the stories we dislike a little better.
Cody will be part of the "Cavalry"
All this, to explain how Palps returned. I'd prefer if they spent their resources to find a way to make the sequels non-existent. I guess I'll just wait until Disney goes bankrupt, Elon Musk buys it and simply removes them from canon.
The main problem with the sequels is that they're terrible stories. The rest is just adding literal insults to injury.
the problem is mediocrity is awarded, this show isnt amazing or good by any strech, its OK. theres a problem when you say nothing happens but it was good. that doesn't make sense. imagine going to a restaurant and saying my food is bland but its good. bad batch had an good concept but terrible execution.
Season 3 Episodes 1 through 3 are pretty much if Dave Filoni said:
"What if we had Resident Evil Remake in Star Wars, just without the undead."
Just you wait. Legends had multiple flavors of undead so they'll probably show up in canon eventually.
Kinda annoyed they stole the whole “vines” idea from Lightyear.
Cody went AWOL, he’s in hiding I’m sure !
Such a shame that a show about a team of clones with unique abilities mentoring the true sister of Boba Fett turned into a story about a blood donor muguffin whose only purpose is to justify some sequel trilogy nonsense.
He been planning his return since revenge of the sith, plaguise the wise, orb sphere scene look like ovum
Aren’t you one of the people that wanted the sequels to be make sense and be justified? You want the sequels to not make sense now?
@@mkhud50n No I have no interest in them making sense as they are unsalvageable for me.
@@ThreeFoldPath might be time to stop watching Star Wars then.
@@mkhud50n Sadly it seems you are probably right.
It's weird how a series of episodes as good as these are picking up the pieces for the abysmal plot of episode 9. It's really making a silk purse out of a sows ear. And its a real return to form for emotional storytelling after Ahsoka was so businesslike and frankly forgettable
It was boring and somewhat cringe to me. Omeeega is just as annoying as young Ahsoka in CW and it makes zero sense why any clone would have a different M count than the host. Makes even less sense that they would test the same clone's blood over and over for months expecting different results.
Maybe I will catch up on season 3 when it is finished and if the reviews are good, but the truth is I've lost interest. It has nothing to do with it being a cartoon. I've started reading through the EU again and am reminded of how much better it was than Disney Star Wars. I am currently working through the X-Wing series by Michael A. Stackpole. The closest anyone has come to even holding a candle to the EU is Rogue One and Andor, and the first two seasons of the Mandalorian. The idea of cloning does not bother me because this was canon in the EU as well. I just don't want to watch it connect to a terrible sequel trilogy.
First!!!
I deserve a Lighting Cake.
Horse girl movies be predictable. 🐎
I will just put this out there regarding “predictable plot points”…unlike real life actors/movies they have to animate literally everything…including subtlety. I mean you can get something animated with plot and all of it like a Miyazaki film…you will just get things every 10 years or so. So for what this is the amount of craft put into what is supposedly season 3 of a kids show is amazing.
I may have said this before on one of your other channels. But I'm gonna tell you. I don't understand why it is that Lucas film can put out such great animated series. Yet they get do it with live action it's pathetic
I thought they were great together
The people who hate animated sw are the "I'm just so mature" type who play fantasy football while hating Dnd lol because their game is "real"
hey thor…. please don’t take this as me being a hater or negative i’m just calling how i see it. they reused scenes multiple times on the first episode. and the second episode i feel like ive seen 4 times. a bunch of little spider monsters and using explosives to get away from the big boss. i had to turn it off after the second episode it was really bad and low effort to me(excluding animation and music as always)
and not to mention it was painfully obvious where the story was going especially w that dog thing
@@vinnydiaz6959writing is usually obvious. We all knew where Harry Potter was going as well
What scenes were reused?
@@nightgirlgaming1985 He is talking about how they had multiple similar looking shots to help establish how Omega is stuck in a cycle at this prison and clearly does not understand good story telling.
I get it. I watch this show for the hope of getting something good. I struggle through many episodes I find boring and subpar to get to nuggets of things I enjoy. I have been tempted to stop many times but i usually get just enough to keep me coming back.