I recently bought this car, switched from an Infiniti FX35. Just wanted to share my thoughts. First, people have a tendency to do a slap-dash calculation to determine if the car is worth the cost on the basis of fuel economy savings alone relative to the gas models. What is often overlooked is the base features of the Disel. As mentioned in the comments of this video, the base trim of the Diesel is more in-line with the 2LT or LTZ cruze, which is closer in price. So if you want to do a fuel based calculation, you'd need to build an equally equipped Cruze. But more important is the difference in ride quality. The Diesel has the same amount of torque my Infiniti had, in a tiny car. It is a little slow initially but takes off and its highway maneuverability is incredible. That was a major decision for me, acceleration. 1.4L turbo has nearly no feeling of torque when you mash the peddle in passing situations, the diesel feels excellent and is consistent in its power delivery. In summary - to compare the gas and diesel cruze - first equip the cars similarly but more importantly, test drive both at highway speeds and you'll most likely figure out which is worth the money. I really like fast foreign cars, but I also like road trips where I don't have to get gas every 250 miles. I've honestly found in my past 2 weeks of ownership that I enjoy the competent acceleration of the diesel and the insane driving range more than how "cool" my infiniti was (and how obnoxiously expensive its maintenance was - $250 light bulb?)
Many thanks for the feedback, David! I just picked up a new piece of audio gear and I'm changing my workflow to add more in-car/interactive shots. I've always endeavored to put at least 300 miles on a car over the course of a week. I want to share my impressions *after* I've rolled up those miles (not before), but everything is weather dependent.
In Australia The Diesel Cruze has been available since 2010 we bought the first generation model in 2010 HOLDEN CRUZE JG DIESEL 5 SPEED MANUAL 2.0 liter turbo diesel 5 speed manual it gives fuel economy of 5.4 liters per 100 kms ( 43.5 us mpg ) without towing . At times I tow with it , carry cars on a tandem it does 140 km/h ( 87 mph ) towing easy if you want to . A great car to drive plenty of over taking power , its not to big or not to small and very cheap to run , we love it .
The Mazda6 Skyactiv-D looks awesome. Can't wait to get into that one! Ran into some audio issues on this one, but I'm working on a new setup for in-car audio that should fix it. Thanks for the feedback!
@Yodoc - My 335d will give me a message saying that the car has only 999 kms until it won't start up unless I fill it up with urea. (DEF) I'm assuming the Cruze would have something similar built into the electronics.
(I'm quoting air1's website) In the USA, emissions from vehicles are regulated by the EPA’s Clean Air Act. The use of SCR System for NOx reduction is an efficient way to meet these regulations, which went into effect on January 1, 2010 and sets the NOx emission limits at 0.20 g/bhp-hr. Under the new US regulations, most engine manufacturers have chosen the Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system as the most efficient way to meet these clean air standards.
we were gettong 49.5 mpg in our 2012 civic lx rental at speeds between 50 and 60 with light traffic...makes me question the point of some hybrids and diesels
I live in India as well, but the engine here in Fiesta is the 78.42mpg limmca record winning 1.4 TDci, the 1.6 TDCi was there for Ford Ikon I think, anyway, America is gonna taste tthe beauty of diesel
I'm having a hard time sleeping at night because they did not include covers for the cup holders! All jokes aside, I plan to pick up a new one today. I hope she will last a long time and save me a ton of money at the pump!
Wow it dropped down to 45.5... That's insanely good! I can see "tunerz" throwing a bigger GARRET turbo and intercooler in this, running 12's and still get 35 mpg or so. Brave move Chevy!!!
Thanks for the reply, mpgomatic! I would obviously change the person in this video for someone with personality and excited to educate us more on this car.
Perhaps if there's enough demand for a manual they'll offer one in 2015. Tough call. It's always good to know there's a donut in the trunk, but more and more cars are being sold without spare tires these days. You can always buy a spare, the issue is trunk space ...
good power (for an engine of this size) and very good torque,plus an engine that will not require a rebuild until 400,000 miles. Good job GM! I think the electric hybrids costs $10k-$15k more,and it's hard to re-coupe the extra money in fuel savings,alone but a diesel is old-fashioned bullet proof concept and mechanics know how to fix these,unlike semi-electric cars
You just answered your own question.. a Honda insight has a chain. Also the ford Ecoboost 2.0 has a chain, The 1.4 turbo in the cruze has a chain, the dodge dart has a chain. I understand the use of belts and I'm not bashing them but if it or one of the components in the system goes and the pistons hit the valves have fun. If you keep on top if it you will be fine,yes but thats $900+ I don't want to spend. A chain lasts much longer!
You know since your response I keep on reading and watching about Cruze Diesel more intensely. I was listening Mike Siegrist Asst. Chief Egineer of Cruze Diesel. He said that they chose the DEF system since it gives better MPG results and it guarantees the future emission regulations as well. And He also mentioned that euro6 will use SCR as well. So, if VW diesel will be obsolete within few years and start using DEF altogether, then I admit that Cruze is still a better diesel than European ones
This looks like good, although I'd like to see a wagon version. I am not surprised one bit by the lack of a spare tire, this is probably to conserve weight and cost. For all the fans of VWs on here, I've heard just as many horror stories of VW quality as people have about American cars. It's nice that Chevrolet is finally making a car like this available in North America, now to see if Ford or Toyota follow suit, after all they've had diesels overseas for years I'm told. Love the MPGOmatic guy!
Chevy did a nice job with this one. The manual Cruze Eco is still my favorite Cruze. If a manual, a Dual clutch or an 8 speed Auto was available mileage in the mid 50's would be possible. As it stands now with only the conventional 6 speed auto the 25k + Cruze Diesel is only acceptable.
Also, what happens if you don't fill it up? What if your 10,000 miles runs out at mile 56 of a 450 mile trip? What happens? Does the car keep running? Do you get reported to the green police?
Will there ever be a manual transmission for the turbo diesel? More power and more fuel economy and its cheaper. How come there isn't a spare tire? that isn't safe, you never know when something might just pop! Can you buy a spare at the dealer?
Diesel fuel is a LUBRICANT, while gas is a solvant. That alone makes a difference, but diesel engines are also built a lot more robust, due to the higher pressure they operate.
Diesel was in my list to buy but the price of Diesel Fuel is just keep going up, now is more than premium gasoline and not to mention many repair shop don't know how to fix diesel engine.
For the same price and almost the same fuel efficiency I would much rather have a Jetta TDi. Interior quality would surely blow the Cruze away even if it did miss those MPG numbers by three or four. BTW, Daniel Gray sent me here from MPGomatic.
Great car....I would not bash Volkswagen but I sell cars on the side on my brother's lot so I have come in contact with many makes of cars over the last 25 years of doing this and just being around his lot. Volkswagen's have traditionally been trouble starting in the mid 90's. I only say this because of post below. Anyway this car seems really good!
pretty much, look at the older tdi jettas (ALH), they still command $4000+ with fairly high miles. my 99 jetta gets between 49 and 57 mpg normally, and with a small tune (about 30 hp) it will shock alot of people with gas 4 cylinders at just how quick it is from a stop or passing at high way speeds.
I was searching on the internet and I found out that GE has developed a better technology that is called GE Catalyst to reduce NOx emission from diesel engines w/o using DEF. Now, how smart is it to build a diesel engine that will work with DEF in Italy and bring it here, while there is already an American company that has the technology to eliminate the harmful NOx w/o DEF? All, GM has to do is to walk around the corner and start to work with GE to develop a useful practical diesel engine.
I drove one and I didn't like it at all here is why: no bottom end until the turbo spools up, the engine uses a timing BELT that along with the water pump cost $900 to replace and if it fails you are in a world of hurt, diesel fuel filter needs to be replaced at 48000kms @ $200, DEF fluid. Rough and sluggish transmission. + parts cost a lot more for the diesel engine, being the first year we don't know if it has any major issues .. ect .. get the 1.6 turbo
You are right on all accounts, but for me, I like the fact the trade in values are low..I can get a good ecnomic vehicle for cheap.....Yeah, it may break down but not everything fails and when it does I just replace it with superior quality parts by MOOG or Timken...Never have another issue again...And I am a mechanic so I get away without payin the astronomical shop rates.
I love the cruze, (this coming from a subaru person) and to those crying about not getting 60 MPG like another car brand, wahh.. Pushing 50 is great for any car its about time GM got in the diesel game. And for those saying gm diesels are crap, think about how much time has passed since the last GM car diesel in the states. The use has essentially shunned diesel except from german car brands, and even then its only a miniscule percentage. GM is taking a BIG step, but worthwhile risk
US and Europe have different environmental regulations and because of the Clean Air Act, we now have, arguably, the strictest diesel regulations in the world. It doesn't hurt to say that because of the diesel exhaust fluid, you probably have a more efficient and cleaner burning diesel car than the jetta diesel.
Please note, that the credit of making this engine goes to Opel, because Opel made this engine (and not Chevy). In Europe, almost all cars (90%) are available with diesel and I can tell you that the 2.0 TDI is a much better engine than the Chevy's (Opel's). In Europe, there is also a 170 bhp version of the 2.0 TDI available and it gets the same MPG + diesel fuel is 20 cents cheaper. Oh, yes and the 170 bhp Jetta allso goes faster of course.
1. How is this a problem with diesel, since it gets more than 10% better fuel economy than the Cruze Eco, and Hybrid like MPG without a battery 2. Actually the extra torque more than makes up for the weight 3. What's so wrong about a diesel of old? Especially when it gets better mileage than the Jetta TDI and at a lower MSRP?
love the sound of diesel so now if they make a turbo diesel manual trans car i will buy put a blow off valve and all your favorite car sounds in one car
It really isn't that big of a surprise. This is essentially another "Eco" Model. The spare for the regular Eco is an option, with standard tire inflation kit. With more stringent fuel economy ratings coming into play they are trying to cut weight. This is unfortunately a reality that is soon to be across the board probably within the decade.
I have been driving diesel cars in India for almost 8 years and whatever petrol heads say, diesel is a better choice if you are planning to do more than 40 miles a day, cuz the Ford TDCi,Chevvy TCDi,VW TDi allthese give more than 50 mpg on highway easily that too with a heavy foot, in a gasoline car you have to kep the speed btwen 50-65 mph to get more than 40 mpg but in diesel we can happily drive the way we want and get easily 40 mpg+ as average mpg,it will pay off the extra cost of car sure
I was kind of exciting when I knew these were becoming available but my enthusiasm is waning. It figures you have to buy the top trim level to get a diesel. Car makers always find a way to limit choice. I hate leather seating and do not get the appeal. The other buzz kill is the DEF requirement which I thought only affected trucks. I agree this would be ideal for the open road but without a spare, not good at all. Tire inflation kits are useless for major tire failure. I'll pass for now.
@fussinated considering that filling it up will cost about 20-30 dollars every 10000 miles and having it means you have one of the cleanest burning cars on the road complying with EPAs strictest diesel regulations in the world, I think you're not giving it much credit
IF, THE DIESEL FUEL ALREADY WOULDN'T HAVE COST MORE THAN THE PREMIUM, Then I would have given way more credit than it deserved. And the reason I gave the European manufacturers as reference is because in Europe diesel costs about as much as regular gas and even with their strictest pollution regulations they don't use urea additive over there. So, IF THEY CAN FIGURE OUT EXPORTING A DIESEL ENGINE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE UREA ADDITIVE TO U.S. WHY WE DON'T PRODUCE SUCH ENGINES HERE?
Read through some of the comments and I don't get the hate for the Cruze. Build quality is nothing special on the Jettas as they're built in Mexico now and if anything, VW has cheapened the brand in the past 2-3 years. Moreover, the newer Jetta/Golf diesel models do use DEF and Europe will be getting DEF diesels in the very near future. Rather than hate on the Cruze, I choose to appreciate that more diesel models are coming to N.America. Mazda, Audi and Porsche to name a few.
Not a bad car but i wouldn't buy one only because of the exposed cup holders. When there is no cup, they should be closed with some nice finished on them and this is a way to cut the cost.
Why are you all hung up about the word "faster". I never said "faster". I said the torque makes up for the extra weight. So by that, it is comparable to the "speed" of the Cruze Eco. These are economy cars, so "faster" isn't really what we're after here. The diesel has 1 mpg lower "estimated" city yet 3 more "estimated" mpg combined. The 46 hwy is truly and estimate because I have gotten higher than 55 mpg hwy on a 100 mile trip. So I guess if you NEVER drive on the highway, get the Cruze Eco
OK! now explain to me then how come VW Jetta and Golf diesel cars which has the same displacement as Cruze diesel, don't need urea additive yet still legal in all the 50 AMERICAN STATES WHICH HAVE THE STRINGEST AIR POLLUTION REGULATIONS IN THE WORLD?
I really honestly don't like these reviews simply because they are prerecorded and it's not like interactive like other car reviews. By prerecorded I mean it sounds like the guy is speaking in a studio instead of live at the spot
When I heard this Cruze diesel I got excited and then I learned that it needs urea fill ups to reduce exhaust gases. When will GM learn to do things right? This is a car supposed to be alternative to Jetta diesel. And Jetta does not use urea and still can be driven in 50 states. I mean come on man a European company thinks about this but GM fails to provide it. We don't want a half ass electric car like Volt. Take your time in developing your products but please do it right.
hmm... about time GM makes a diesel.... however i wonder how the longevity will be. It wont be as legendary as the Mercedes Diesels of the 80 and 90s im sure currently using a 92 300d with almost 300,000 with no mechanical issues. not bad after 21 years id say i wonder how many cruz diesels will be still on the road in 21 years
I recently bought this car, switched from an Infiniti FX35. Just wanted to share my thoughts.
First, people have a tendency to do a slap-dash calculation to determine if the car is worth the cost on the basis of fuel economy savings alone relative to the gas models. What is often overlooked is the base features of the Disel. As mentioned in the comments of this video, the base trim of the Diesel is more in-line with the 2LT or LTZ cruze, which is closer in price. So if you want to do a fuel based calculation, you'd need to build an equally equipped Cruze.
But more important is the difference in ride quality. The Diesel has the same amount of torque my Infiniti had, in a tiny car. It is a little slow initially but takes off and its highway maneuverability is incredible. That was a major decision for me, acceleration. 1.4L turbo has nearly no feeling of torque when you mash the peddle in passing situations, the diesel feels excellent and is consistent in its power delivery.
In summary - to compare the gas and diesel cruze - first equip the cars similarly but more importantly, test drive both at highway speeds and you'll most likely figure out which is worth the money.
I really like fast foreign cars, but I also like road trips where I don't have to get gas every 250 miles. I've honestly found in my past 2 weeks of ownership that I enjoy the competent acceleration of the diesel and the insane driving range more than how "cool" my infiniti was (and how obnoxiously expensive its maintenance was - $250 light bulb?)
Many thanks for the kind words and support, Pedro!
just what i was gonna say.
we had a 1.6 TDCi Fiesta in India and it was a beauty.
good engine, ran for 130,000 kms before we sold it.
Many thanks, Felix! I'm working on a new setup for in-car audio. I'll be trying it out this weekend ... Stay tuned ...
Many thanks for the feedback, David! I just picked up a new piece of audio gear and I'm changing my workflow to add more in-car/interactive shots. I've always endeavored to put at least 300 miles on a car over the course of a week. I want to share my impressions *after* I've rolled up those miles (not before), but everything is weather dependent.
great to see you on Autobytel, Dan. You deserve the opportunity
In Australia The Diesel Cruze has been available since 2010 we bought the first generation model in 2010 HOLDEN CRUZE JG DIESEL 5 SPEED MANUAL 2.0 liter turbo diesel 5 speed manual it gives fuel economy of 5.4 liters per 100 kms ( 43.5 us mpg ) without towing . At times I tow with it , carry cars on a tandem it does 140 km/h ( 87 mph ) towing easy if you want to . A great car to drive plenty of over taking power , its not to big or not to small and very cheap to run , we love it .
No problem! I'm still rolling with MPGomatic and will be pitching in here at Autobytel as well, posting reviews and other videos.
Thanks for the feedback, RayzaBlayz! What would you change?
The Mazda6 Skyactiv-D looks awesome. Can't wait to get into that one! Ran into some audio issues on this one, but I'm working on a new setup for in-car audio that should fix it. Thanks for the feedback!
It coming, I work for a supplier and we made samples for a colorado diesel last year
@Yodoc - My 335d will give me a message saying that the car has only 999 kms until it won't start up unless I fill it up with urea. (DEF) I'm assuming the Cruze would have something similar built into the electronics.
Hey Dan, you need to fix the audio on the next video, otherwise good as always
(I'm quoting air1's website)
In the USA, emissions from vehicles are regulated by the EPA’s Clean Air Act. The use of SCR System for NOx reduction is an efficient way to meet these regulations, which went into effect on January 1, 2010 and sets the NOx emission limits at 0.20 g/bhp-hr. Under the new US regulations, most engine manufacturers have chosen the Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system as the most efficient way to meet these clean air standards.
Many thanks, Nemanja!
Glad to see Dan again
Hey dan! Glad to see you on ABT along your channel!
I hope is sells well and that GM keeps making them.
Great review man! I feel like I drove this car! Will look forward to more of your reviews!
Does it come in a Manual transmission Diesel?
Excellent extensive review as always Dan. I always look forward to your reviews!!!
Does anybody know when chevy is gonna redesign the cruze?
we were gettong 49.5 mpg in our 2012 civic lx rental at speeds between 50 and 60 with light traffic...makes me question the point of some hybrids and diesels
I live in India as well, but the engine here in Fiesta is the 78.42mpg limmca record winning 1.4 TDci, the 1.6 TDCi was there for Ford Ikon I think, anyway, America is gonna taste tthe beauty of diesel
I'm having a hard time sleeping at night because they did not include covers for the cup holders!
All jokes aside, I plan to pick up a new one today. I hope she will last a long time and save me a ton of money at the pump!
Was the voiceover recorded in the trunk?
Wow it dropped down to 45.5... That's insanely good! I can see "tunerz" throwing a bigger GARRET turbo and intercooler in this, running 12's and still get 35 mpg or so. Brave move Chevy!!!
Thanks for the reply, mpgomatic! I would obviously change the person in this video for someone with personality and excited to educate us more on this car.
I was able to configure a Cruze LS 6 speed manual on the Chevy website.
It sounds really nice....love that diesel "growl", and glad to see it in an American car now
How much does it cost to fill up that urea tank?
Perhaps if there's enough demand for a manual they'll offer one in 2015. Tough call. It's always good to know there's a donut in the trunk, but more and more cars are being sold without spare tires these days. You can always buy a spare, the issue is trunk space ...
whats the price like for over 5 years
Many thanks, Derek!
Thanks as always, Mike! :)
good power (for an engine of this size) and very good torque,plus an engine that will not require a rebuild until 400,000 miles. Good job GM! I think the electric hybrids costs $10k-$15k more,and it's hard to re-coupe the extra money in fuel savings,alone but a diesel is old-fashioned bullet proof concept and mechanics know how to fix these,unlike semi-electric cars
You just answered your own question.. a Honda insight has a chain. Also the ford Ecoboost 2.0 has a chain, The 1.4 turbo in the cruze has a chain, the dodge dart has a chain. I understand the use of belts and I'm not bashing them but if it or one of the components in the system goes and the pistons hit the valves have fun. If you keep on top if it you will be fine,yes but thats $900+ I don't want to spend. A chain lasts much longer!
You know since your response I keep on reading and watching about Cruze Diesel more intensely. I was listening Mike Siegrist Asst. Chief Egineer of Cruze Diesel. He said that they chose the DEF system since it gives better MPG results and it guarantees the future emission regulations as well. And He also mentioned that euro6 will use SCR as well. So, if VW diesel will be obsolete within few years and start using DEF altogether, then I admit that Cruze is still a better diesel than European ones
This looks like good, although I'd like to see a wagon version. I am not surprised one bit by the lack of a spare tire, this is probably to conserve weight and cost. For all the fans of VWs on here, I've heard just as many horror stories of VW quality as people have about American cars. It's nice that Chevrolet is finally making a car like this available in North America, now to see if Ford or Toyota follow suit, after all they've had diesels overseas for years I'm told. Love the MPGOmatic guy!
No fog lights???
Well, that would be me. :) I'll amp it up next time. There were two clips that didn't get shot on this one, due to the rain, one being an intro.
Many thanks!
Chevy did a nice job with this one. The manual Cruze Eco is still my favorite Cruze. If a manual, a Dual clutch or an 8 speed Auto was available mileage in the mid 50's would be possible. As it stands now with only the conventional 6 speed auto the 25k + Cruze Diesel is only acceptable.
Also, what happens if you don't fill it up? What if your 10,000 miles runs out at mile 56 of a 450 mile trip? What happens? Does the car keep running? Do you get reported to the green police?
Will there ever be a manual transmission for the turbo diesel? More power and more fuel economy and its cheaper. How come there isn't a spare tire? that isn't safe, you never know when something might just pop! Can you buy a spare at the dealer?
Great video
Thanks!
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I wonder about the diesel's long term reliability. I would like to think it will be okay.
All things being equal, a diesel engine lasts much longer than a gas engine. As for the reliability of this engine, time will tell.
Diesel fuel is a LUBRICANT, while gas is a solvant. That alone makes a difference, but diesel engines are also built a lot more robust, due to the higher pressure they operate.
Diesel was in my list to buy but the price of Diesel Fuel is just keep going up, now is more than premium gasoline and not to mention many repair shop don't know how to fix diesel engine.
For the same price and almost the same fuel efficiency I would much rather have a Jetta TDi. Interior quality would surely blow the Cruze away even if it did miss those MPG numbers by three or four. BTW, Daniel Gray sent me here from MPGomatic.
Diesel fuel now costs LESS than regular fuel where I live in Washington State. May 2014
It depends on where you live. In the Massachusetts and most of the Northeast, diesel is about 20-40 cents more than premium gas.
Great car....I would not bash Volkswagen but I sell cars on the side on my brother's lot so I have come in contact with many makes of cars over the last 25 years of doing this and just being around his lot. Volkswagen's have traditionally been trouble starting in the mid 90's. I only say this because of post below. Anyway this car seems really good!
pretty much, look at the older tdi jettas (ALH), they still command $4000+ with fairly high miles. my 99 jetta gets between 49 and 57 mpg normally, and with a small tune (about 30 hp) it will shock alot of people with gas 4 cylinders at just how quick it is from a stop or passing at high way speeds.
Always admire cruze owners, they really have some unqiue taste of what a good looking car should be.
How?
I drove a C250 Diesel thousands of miles across Europe and I can tell you no hybrid is as fun or as efficient.
the 2.0 Common Rail Injected diesel in Europe produces 163 Bhp, and has SIGNIFICANTLY less noise.
I was searching on the internet and I found out that GE has developed a better technology that is called GE Catalyst to reduce NOx emission from diesel engines w/o using DEF. Now, how smart is it to build a diesel engine that will work with DEF in Italy and bring it here, while there is already an American company that has the technology to eliminate the harmful NOx w/o DEF? All, GM has to do is to walk around the corner and start to work with GE to develop a useful practical diesel engine.
Needs a 6 speed manual and lower trim level. They would sell a lot more
I drove one and I didn't like it at all here is why: no bottom end until the turbo spools up, the engine uses a timing BELT that along with the water pump cost $900 to replace and if it fails you are in a world of hurt, diesel fuel filter needs to be replaced at 48000kms @ $200, DEF fluid. Rough and sluggish transmission. + parts cost a lot more for the diesel engine, being the first year we don't know if it has any major issues .. ect .. get the 1.6 turbo
These engines (Fiat&Opel/GM) have BEST reliability on european market.
You are right on all accounts, but for me, I like the fact the trade in values are low..I can get a good ecnomic vehicle for cheap.....Yeah, it may break down but not everything fails and when it does I just replace it with superior quality parts by MOOG or Timken...Never have another issue again...And I am a mechanic so I get away without payin the astronomical shop rates.
I love the cruze, (this coming from a subaru person) and to those crying about not getting 60 MPG like another car brand, wahh.. Pushing 50 is great for any car its about time GM got in the diesel game. And for those saying gm diesels are crap, think about how much time has passed since the last GM car diesel in the states. The use has essentially shunned diesel except from german car brands, and even then its only a miniscule percentage. GM is taking a BIG step, but worthwhile risk
My bad mate. Misread it. I agree though, it's a lot of torque for a 4cyl.
I have one and it is great!
The Cruze limits the speed to 65 for 300 miles, then 55 for another set of miles, and then after that it still moves but only 4 mph
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the last diesel engines GM made, all blew up. I'll wait to see if they did it right this time.
Why are you trying to sound like Casey Kassim?
US and Europe have different environmental regulations and because of the Clean Air Act, we now have, arguably, the strictest diesel regulations in the world. It doesn't hurt to say that because of the diesel exhaust fluid, you probably have a more efficient and cleaner burning diesel car than the jetta diesel.
wow, it's happening! Great jod, Dan!
Please note, that the credit of making this engine goes to Opel, because Opel made this engine (and not Chevy). In Europe, almost all cars (90%) are available with diesel and I can tell you that the 2.0 TDI is a much better engine than the Chevy's (Opel's). In Europe, there is also a 170 bhp version of the 2.0 TDI available and it gets the same MPG + diesel fuel is 20 cents cheaper. Oh, yes and the 170 bhp Jetta allso goes faster of course.
1. How is this a problem with diesel, since it gets more than 10% better fuel economy than the Cruze Eco, and Hybrid like MPG without a battery
2. Actually the extra torque more than makes up for the weight
3. What's so wrong about a diesel of old? Especially when it gets better mileage than the Jetta TDI and at a lower MSRP?
love the sound of diesel so now if they make a turbo diesel manual trans car i will buy put a blow off valve and all your favorite car sounds in one car
It really isn't that big of a surprise. This is essentially another "Eco" Model. The spare for the regular Eco is an option, with standard tire inflation kit. With more stringent fuel economy ratings coming into play they are trying to cut weight. This is unfortunately a reality that is soon to be across the board probably within the decade.
I have been driving diesel cars in India for almost 8 years and whatever petrol heads say, diesel is a better choice if you are planning to do more than 40 miles a day, cuz the Ford TDCi,Chevvy TCDi,VW TDi allthese give more than 50 mpg on highway easily that too with a heavy foot, in a gasoline car you have to kep the speed btwen 50-65 mph to get more than 40 mpg but in diesel we can happily drive the way we want and get easily 40 mpg+ as average mpg,it will pay off the extra cost of car sure
I was kind of exciting when I knew these were becoming available but my enthusiasm is waning. It figures you have to buy the top trim level to get a diesel. Car makers always find a way to limit choice. I hate leather seating and do not get the appeal. The other buzz kill is the DEF requirement which I thought only affected trucks. I agree this would be ideal for the open road but without a spare, not good at all. Tire inflation kits are useless for major tire failure. I'll pass for now.
You sure 264 lb-ft of torque wouldn't be enough? Last I heard its pretty comparable to what they come with already.
Way to go DAN
@fussinated considering that filling it up will cost about 20-30 dollars every 10000 miles and having it means you have one of the cleanest burning cars on the road complying with EPAs strictest diesel regulations in the world, I think you're not giving it much credit
Now put this engine into the Chevy Volt, could we see 100 mpg?
IF, THE DIESEL FUEL ALREADY WOULDN'T HAVE COST MORE THAN THE PREMIUM, Then I would have given way more credit than it deserved. And the reason I gave the European manufacturers as reference is because in Europe diesel costs about as much as regular gas and even with their strictest pollution regulations they don't use urea additive over there. So, IF THEY CAN FIGURE OUT EXPORTING A DIESEL ENGINE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE UREA ADDITIVE TO U.S. WHY WE DON'T PRODUCE SUCH ENGINES HERE?
Read through some of the comments and I don't get the hate for the Cruze. Build quality is nothing special on the Jettas as they're built in Mexico now and if anything, VW has cheapened the brand in the past 2-3 years. Moreover, the newer Jetta/Golf diesel models do use DEF and Europe will be getting DEF diesels in the very near future. Rather than hate on the Cruze, I choose to appreciate that more diesel models are coming to N.America. Mazda, Audi and Porsche to name a few.
It's Dan!
The gasoline version gets 148. The diesel has 250-280.
hi #dandre davis We have a 2012 @Audi Q5 test drive video from last year you should check out
4mpg over the gas version is totally worth the extra dollar per gallon of fuel.
Not a bad car but i wouldn't buy one only because of the exposed cup holders. When there is no cup, they should be closed with some nice finished on them and this is a way to cut the cost.
What car doesn't have a timing belt? Every Dodge, Plymouth, Volkswagen I've ever owned had a belt. My Honda insight is the only car that had a chain
Why are you all hung up about the word "faster". I never said "faster". I said the torque makes up for the extra weight. So by that, it is comparable to the "speed" of the Cruze Eco. These are economy cars, so "faster" isn't really what we're after here.
The diesel has 1 mpg lower "estimated" city yet 3 more "estimated" mpg combined. The 46 hwy is truly and estimate because I have gotten higher than 55 mpg hwy on a 100 mile trip. So I guess if you NEVER drive on the highway, get the Cruze Eco
wow 700 miles range!
The GM aspect is what worries me more than anything.
Yes he did.
OK am I the only one who is surprised with no SPARE tire!
OK! now explain to me then how come VW Jetta and Golf diesel cars which has the same displacement as Cruze diesel, don't need urea additive yet still legal in all the 50 AMERICAN STATES WHICH HAVE THE STRINGEST AIR POLLUTION REGULATIONS IN THE WORLD?
Do you know the phrase is "couldn't care less"?
I really honestly don't like these reviews simply because they are prerecorded and it's not like interactive like other car reviews. By prerecorded I mean it sounds like the guy is speaking in a studio instead of live at the spot
When I heard this Cruze diesel I got excited and then I learned that it needs urea fill ups to reduce exhaust gases. When will GM learn to do things right? This is a car supposed to be alternative to Jetta diesel. And Jetta does not use urea and still can be driven in 50 states. I mean come on man a European company thinks about this but GM fails to provide it. We don't want a half ass electric car like Volt. Take your time in developing your products but please do it right.
The funny thing is this was engineered by Opel
I dont get it?
hmm... about time GM makes a diesel.... however i wonder how the longevity will be. It wont be as legendary as the Mercedes Diesels of the 80 and 90s im sure currently using a 92 300d with almost 300,000 with no mechanical issues. not bad after 21 years id say i wonder how many cruz diesels will be still on the road in 21 years