I also ride the T7. I am 174 cm in height. I gained some weight; so I am now at around 68 kg. Used be be 60 kg. I have no issue riding it at the standard height. I put on Yamaha's mesh seat cover for extra comfort. I can paddle the bike with my both legs.
hey nice review kris, was hoping u to make some video of the tenere world, we have the same height and just wanted to see for sure on how u will be on the t7 world raid.
I think the best comment about this bike is “ it feels light as a feather until it doesn’t “ . The problem I find with mine is it’s so nice at highway speeds and even on dirt . However when you find yourself in a situation anywhere , even at the gas station . That high center of gravity suddenly becomes a monster that you can’t control . I hate to say it but I’m actually a little gunshy of even riding it anymore .
I think that fits all bikes though doesn't it? All bikes have a 'tipping' point where they become unmanageable unless they are featherweights and even then you're risking injuring yourself trying to hold up 120-140 kg. Obviously it's more noticeable on the tall ADVs and similar, with the more top heavy nature you mention, but there's no escaping it.
@@MotoJournoKris I'll start the collecting process but as for installs it will have to wait. Have no room for another bike in garage so it's staying with the dealer in their heated storage till spring.
did you actually get the bike? Im 163cm and tried one today (stock seat and no lowering kit) and its the first bike I ever tried that I dont feel comfortable. if you did, did the lowering kit and lower sit help in anyway?
@@jerkzao nope. It’s not available in India, but I am working in Qatar and is there, now stuck in India because of covid 😖. If I can reach one leg on ground - it’s ok for me. I had an Africa twin and I can reach the tip of both legs on ground. It was fine for me. But tenere I think a bit more high
That's the standard Yamaha skid plate that comes on the bike as far as I know, it's a lighter version, more ideal for light adventure. A lot of people seem to replace them with something a bit more heavy duty if they are going into really tough terrain.
I guess it's where you're coming from. From the Ninja 400 it feels, tall but compared to the WR250R it's a much more manageable seat height, however obviously much heavier overall.
True, I think the more experienced you are the less of an issue it tends to be. Plus you need to take into account adventure bikes are just always much taller if they are intended for more serious off-road use.
Its a PITA problem on off camber roads when parking etc. Can't dab easily too. More than anything for me at least it means I don't use the bike on short day to day runs. I use it only for longer runs.
@@Jon-mv2ck yeah, 1 foot down flat works great on level surface. I tend to favour my left foot down on an incline so I can use back break with throttle to pull off with no roll back. If you I have camber downward on your left hand leg side it means you need to get your right foot down and use front break and throttle, a bit harder to have great control. I test ride one recently and thought it was a great bike and handles well, does make me a bit more nervous filtering on camber at slow speed but I did ride with running shoes and not my adventure boots. I think I will try lower seat first and my normal boots :).
@@jellybean8495 I ended up buying a KTM 390 Adventure to keep for a year to see how I liked it. I am in southern Spain which is very mountainous. Bike is good but as expected seat height can be a problem when doing slow speed things as the roads are so hilly and cambered. Also makes it harder with a passenger. I may try a lowering kit or maybe shave the seat a little.
They are even taller than the T7 from memory, by a small margin. I rode one years ago and it was ok with a 32 inch inseam, but it'll depend on your comfort level as far as not flat footing.
I'm 178 tall (5ft 9") and around 90kg, how do you think I would be for seat height on the T7, I will only be riding on road, probably have panniers on one if I get one, I think I would be ok, but never sat on one of these before. As a reference I used to ride a 2006 V-strom 1000 without any problems at all.
That's pretty similar to me height-wise, so I'd have thought you'd be ok, if your inseam is also similar at 32 inch or so. I was usually wearing my ADV boots on the T7 so that adds a bit of height however. I found the bike very manageable, but my Dad who is a similar height but shorter legs struggled in comparison, although I think with the taller bikes it is something to get used to.
Inseam length is probably a better figure for comparison, I'm 32 inch and it was ideal, but the shorter your inseama the more of a challenge it could potentially be if you can't reach the round or aren't confident in some conditions.
It was at the Toronto bike show this year. My first impression was short seat height, I was flat footed and bent knee alot. The big issue was the right side. My running shoes were on the exhaust pipe. And the seat was crazy uncomfortable. I wanted this bike to replace my 06 KTM 640 Adventure. But I will keep my bike a little longer.
Really, was it a version with the lowering link and low seat? 880mm seat height isn't going to have many riders with a bent knee, but I think that brings it down to 845mm. That's a decent bit shorter than the 640 at 935mm of course, so it can be a bit of a shock trying something different to what you're used to. I didn't notice any issues with my adventure boots touching the exhaust, and found the seat comfortable considering it's very low profile/minimalist, but then it compares very well against the DRZ400E in that department.
@@MotoJournoKris it was the standard height version, and yes very different from my 640. I ride ball of my foot and the heal of my running shoe is fully on the heat shield and it slightly raises my foot. I'm 6 foot 1 and a 10.5 boot. I will still do a test ride just to make sure it wasn't some weird bike show fluke. And I am sure someone will make a seat for it. But I did do a yamaha website build, with the luggage skid plate And hand warmers it's very pricey. I think in the end I will just keep my 640 as I just rebuilt the motor. Was just hoping to go a little newer of a bike.
@@xlthumper Oh interesting, I'm the same boot size, but I have to admit I wasn't doing much riding with the balls of my feet on the pegs except standing up, but I'm not all that used to doing it on bikes with the grippier off-road pegs. One thing I've heard a lot from different sources is a wider set of pegs make a big difference, so I'm not sure whether that would help. It's always hard upgrading, especially if you're on something you really like, and you've got it pretty much perfect after a few years. It'll be interesting to see whether an up-spec Tenere 700 appears, or what other upgrades or additions the bike might get a year or two in.
@@MotoJournoKris your right. It is very difficult to replace a bike that is just right for you. I will watch the market and see the updates changes for this bike.
I think inseam gives a more accurate picture. If you’re carrying a pillion you need to adjust sag thus bringing it back to hight. Isn’t that the way it works? or am I wrong?
With a 32" inseam I could get one foot down flat very easily, or both feet almost flat. I'm 180 cm though, and it will vary depending on whether you're on the longer legged side. There's also a lower seat and lowering kit available to drop the stock seat further though, which is worth keeping in mind if it's a little too tall stock.
Moto Journo Kris What company produces a lower seat? I’m 172cm with a 30 inch inseam. I currently ride a 2017 KLR 650 which has a seat height of 889 mm which appears to be taller than the T7. I’m on my tip toes when stopped on the KLR. I can flat foot it on one foot when leaned slightly to that side. I’m currently waiting for my T7 I ordered to be delivered.
Perhaps I missed it but I never saw your inseam length on the screen. I noticed most people practically all of them like to talk about how many centimeters in height they are when the consumer needs to know the inseam length that's more important. If I missed your inseam length forgive me I'm 5'8 yes with only a 29 inch inseam and I'm determined to get this by no matter what.
Yep height really doesn't mean anything when it comes to reach to the ground. I might have forgotten, I'm 32 inch inseam for reference. Longer legs and shorter torso for my height, so it can really vary between riders.
@@MotoJournoKris Leg Inseam is the key number not height, as a 33inch inseam + tend to wear thick soled boots so hoping ill be ok, ill use a lowered seat at worse and a low preload setting + maybe drop forks by 10mm.. think that'll work?
Im 1.85 and i bent front little bit to catch handlebar..after 4 years with xt660z tenere when i rode t7 i find it uncofortable. Now im strugling to see if theres a way to make it as comfortable as it goes cause i dont want to waste money...
@@kostasrestas There does seem to be a number of riders who had the same issue, with various solutions, definitely worth checking them out to see if they'll solve your problems!
it's a twin dirt bike... why it took so long to make these is beyond me. If honda would just put a twin in their 450L, they'd have a winner... (and nearly 100 lbs lighter)
Yea it's quite interesting. It looks like we'll be getting a mini Africa Twin in the 850cc (from memory) range instead, which will more closely align with the Tenere, rather than a super light CRF styled option.
I don't think it has anything to do with getting used to doing it, more that it's a good benchmark for manageability, especially for people who aren't sure.
The crf250l has almost the same seat height or a bit taller. Wonder how dramatic is weight and handling compared to someone used to riding 250 dual sport or dirt bikes.
Yep some of those 250s are actually a bit taller to throw a leg over. There's definitely a compromise - at least for someone at my skill level, which is basic on the dirt/off road - as you do feel that extra weight. It's not quite as easy to throw around as say a WR250R, but there's a 70kg weight difference there, much like with a CRF250L. I don't think the Tenere 700 could replace those machines for everyone, for some people the lighter weight and easier handling (especially if the bike goes down) will be more important than better road performance, but the Tenere is also certainly capable of a heap off-road, while being exceptional on road as well.
@@MotoJournoKris I've ridden the XR200 and CRF250L. They are both capable in the dirt and easy to pickup. Range is fine and riding on open roads(90 kph cruise speed) with a pillion plus luggage is not bad. But going uphill and passenger seat comfort is another story. I'm considering the t700 for that extra power and again its offroad capability. Not to mention the attractive price point. I also do the maintenance myself so I very much love the lack of advance electronics on the t700. Would you recommend the t700 for pillion riding? Is the stock seat comfortable or should it be modified for the pillion?
@@idselseno2306 I only did a couple of short rides with my wife on the back, and she was happy with the seat/peg placement, but I'm not sure how that would translate into longer distance rides like touring, as it was only say 15 minutes at a time, including a bit of rough fire trail riding. As far as power there was plenty with an extra person on board, and it actually brought the ride height down, so an easier reach to the ground. Were you thinking of longer distance touring with a pillion, or just the occasional shorter ride?
@@MotoJournoKris A 100 kms with luggage. I think its 2 to 3 hours ride I guess. 3 hours might be too much without stopping for some rest. But glad to know that the suspension would still drop some more. I think it's safe to say thay the pillion seat can be customized without drama. Is the seat 1 piece or 2 piece? BTW I'm 167.64 cm. and 59 kg.
@@idselseno2306 One piece seat, but I just checked with my wife and she thought an hour would be fine on that seat, and she's almost the same height as me, at about 175cm and 70kg. A grab rail or similar would help though for longer distances.
To bad my inseam is only 30 inches, i sit on a lowered T700 with a lowering link kit & the low seat option (seat height at 840mm) & i wasn’t comfortable as i was only touching the ground with my toes.
Hard to get away from the height at a certain point as you need the ground clearance and suspension travel, but a a pair of adventure boots also helps with reach to the ground, if you tried the bike without them. That said at the end of the day, if you can't get a foot down comfortably it takes the fun out of it, as you also want the confidence to be adventurous.
Have you been on the standard Africa Twin with the seat in lowered position? I have 30" inseam as well and on both balls of feet in this configuration in street shoes. (Find it too top heavy though for my size) Still haven't been able to see a T7 in the flesh but suprised by your findings with lowering.
Is it have the similar seat height in effect compared to KTM 990? I am 161 cm and I can ride a KTM 990 Dakar edition, with one tip toe on ground. I hope tenere has a bit narrow rider seat compared to 990, I hope I could ride it
I think so, the seat heights are very similar, but the Tenere is very narrow across the seat, and I do feel like that would be an advantage, so you should fine the reach to the ground a little more manageable, but also remember there's an official lowering link available.
It's a hard one to get right, especially as it can vary so greatly between riders. I've ridden a few machines where I've thought the seat was great, and others have found it terrible, and visa versa. Plus I think they really kept the seat on the Tenere very thin and narrow to keep the height down and stay true to that more dirt bike theme.
أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِن مَّتَّعْنَاهُمْ سِنِينَ (٢٠٥) ثُمَّ جَاءَهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُوعَدُونَ (٢٠٦) مَا أَغْنَىٰ عَنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُمَتَّعُونَ (٢٠٧) الشعراء Then have you considered if We gave them enjoyment for years, And then there came to them that which they were promised? They would not be availed by the enjoyment with which they were provided. (Quran 26 :205-207)
I also ride the T7. I am 174 cm in height. I gained some weight; so I am now at around 68 kg. Used be be 60 kg. I have no issue riding it at the standard height. I put on Yamaha's mesh seat cover for extra comfort. I can paddle the bike with my both legs.
Bro I am 175 cm so can I go for t700?
hey nice review kris, was hoping u to make some video of the tenere world, we have the same height and just wanted to see for sure on how u will be on the t7 world raid.
Haven't seen or ridden one yet unfortunately, but definitely will do a video if I get the chance!
I think the best comment about this bike is “ it feels light as a feather until it doesn’t “ . The problem I find with mine is it’s so nice at highway speeds and even on dirt . However when you find yourself in a situation anywhere , even at the gas station . That high center of gravity suddenly becomes a monster that you can’t control . I hate to say it but I’m actually a little gunshy of even riding it anymore .
I think that fits all bikes though doesn't it? All bikes have a 'tipping' point where they become unmanageable unless they are featherweights and even then you're risking injuring yourself trying to hold up 120-140 kg. Obviously it's more noticeable on the tall ADVs and similar, with the more top heavy nature you mention, but there's no escaping it.
How tall are you?
How tall are you.
Excited to finally pick up a blue tenere on Tuesday. Been riding a 2010 GSA for 10 yrs. Absolutely loved touring on it but the T7 is my next chapter.
Very nice! Any mods planned yet?
@@MotoJournoKris just be in awe of its glory for the 1st week then order new skins. It will sit for 6 months. Snow is around the corner in 🇨🇦
@@matthewjames4268 Lots of time to get mods done for the next riding seasons, there's certainly a lot you can do to further ADV-erise these machines.
@@MotoJournoKris I'll start the collecting process but as for installs it will have to wait. Have no room for another bike in garage so it's staying with the dealer in their heated storage till spring.
@@matthewjames4268 I know the feeling, I need to free up some space in my garage. That's pretty cool you can store it with the dealer though!
I am 161 cm height. I ride bikes having seat height up to 860mm. For this one I think I need a lowering kit, if I am going for it
did you actually get the bike? Im 163cm and tried one today (stock seat and no lowering kit) and its the first bike I ever tried that I dont feel comfortable. if you did, did the lowering kit and lower sit help in anyway?
@@jerkzao nope. It’s not available in India, but I am working in Qatar and is there, now stuck in India because of covid 😖. If I can reach one leg on ground - it’s ok for me. I had an Africa twin and I can reach the tip of both legs on ground. It was fine for me. But tenere I think a bit more high
Your height has nothing to do with wether or not you'll fit on a bike. It's your inseam that matters.
And even that is subjective.
@@BikerGirlTraveler Yo! :)
get the oem grip pads for the sides of the tank. they work super well!
Hi Kris, what bash/skid plate is on your bike. Looks decent. Thanks 😊 🙏
That's the standard Yamaha skid plate that comes on the bike as far as I know, it's a lighter version, more ideal for light adventure. A lot of people seem to replace them with something a bit more heavy duty if they are going into really tough terrain.
Moto Journo Kris the standard bash plate is smaller
Very good review with informations for the shorties. Thx from Germany
Glad to be of help!
Bought mine 2nd hand which had been lowered. I’m similar size to you and it still feels a tall bike to me. May even think about a lower seat too.
I guess it's where you're coming from. From the Ninja 400 it feels, tall but compared to the WR250R it's a much more manageable seat height, however obviously much heavier overall.
I don’t get why people fuss over seat height so much. As long as you can get one foot down, you should be fine.
True, I think the more experienced you are the less of an issue it tends to be. Plus you need to take into account adventure bikes are just always much taller if they are intended for more serious off-road use.
Its a PITA problem on off camber roads when parking etc. Can't dab easily too. More than anything for me at least it means I don't use the bike on short day to day runs. I use it only for longer runs.
@@Jon-mv2ck yeah, 1 foot down flat works great on level surface. I tend to favour my left foot down on an incline so I can use back break with throttle to pull off with no roll back. If you I have camber downward on your left hand leg side it means you need to get your right foot down and use front break and throttle, a bit harder to have great control. I test ride one recently and thought it was a great bike and handles well, does make me a bit more nervous filtering on camber at slow speed but I did ride with running shoes and not my adventure boots. I think I will try lower seat first and my normal boots :).
@@jellybean8495 I ended up buying a KTM 390 Adventure to keep for a year to see how I liked it. I am in southern Spain which is very mountainous. Bike is good but as expected seat height can be a problem when doing slow speed things as the roads are so hilly and cambered. Also makes it harder with a passenger. I may try a lowering kit or maybe shave the seat a little.
@@Jon-mv2ck a passenger will compress your spring down quite a lot, it should infact make it much easier..
Hey got a question, i’m 180cm and want to take a xt660z tenere 2008 , do i touch good ?
They are even taller than the T7 from memory, by a small margin. I rode one years ago and it was ok with a 32 inch inseam, but it'll depend on your comfort level as far as not flat footing.
best review so far !
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
I'm 178 tall (5ft 9") and around 90kg, how do you think I would be for seat height on the T7, I will only be riding on road, probably have panniers on one if I get one, I think I would be ok, but never sat on one of these before.
As a reference I used to ride a 2006 V-strom 1000 without any problems at all.
That's pretty similar to me height-wise, so I'd have thought you'd be ok, if your inseam is also similar at 32 inch or so. I was usually wearing my ADV boots on the T7 so that adds a bit of height however. I found the bike very manageable, but my Dad who is a similar height but shorter legs struggled in comparison, although I think with the taller bikes it is something to get used to.
I'm 165cm... Should I get it?
Inseam length is probably a better figure for comparison, I'm 32 inch and it was ideal, but the shorter your inseama the more of a challenge it could potentially be if you can't reach the round or aren't confident in some conditions.
It was at the Toronto bike show this year. My first impression was short seat height, I was flat footed and bent knee alot. The big issue was the right side. My running shoes were on the exhaust pipe. And the seat was crazy uncomfortable. I wanted this bike to replace my 06 KTM 640 Adventure. But I will keep my bike a little longer.
Really, was it a version with the lowering link and low seat? 880mm seat height isn't going to have many riders with a bent knee, but I think that brings it down to 845mm. That's a decent bit shorter than the 640 at 935mm of course, so it can be a bit of a shock trying something different to what you're used to. I didn't notice any issues with my adventure boots touching the exhaust, and found the seat comfortable considering it's very low profile/minimalist, but then it compares very well against the DRZ400E in that department.
@@MotoJournoKris it was the standard height version, and yes very different from my 640. I ride ball of my foot and the heal of my running shoe is fully on the heat shield and it slightly raises my foot. I'm 6 foot 1 and a 10.5 boot. I will still do a test ride just to make sure it wasn't some weird bike show fluke. And I am sure someone will make a seat for it. But I did do a yamaha website build, with the luggage skid plate And hand warmers it's very pricey. I think in the end I will just keep my 640 as I just rebuilt the motor. Was just hoping to go a little newer of a bike.
@@xlthumper Oh interesting, I'm the same boot size, but I have to admit I wasn't doing much riding with the balls of my feet on the pegs except standing up, but I'm not all that used to doing it on bikes with the grippier off-road pegs. One thing I've heard a lot from different sources is a wider set of pegs make a big difference, so I'm not sure whether that would help.
It's always hard upgrading, especially if you're on something you really like, and you've got it pretty much perfect after a few years. It'll be interesting to see whether an up-spec Tenere 700 appears, or what other upgrades or additions the bike might get a year or two in.
@@MotoJournoKris your right. It is very difficult to replace a bike that is just right for you. I will watch the market and see the updates changes for this bike.
Check the AJP PR7....
I think inseam gives a more accurate picture.
If you’re carrying a pillion you need to adjust sag thus bringing it back to hight. Isn’t that the way it works? or am I wrong?
Yep, assuming you're adjusting it for the pillion. For me it'd be fairly infrequent to have one on board, so probably I wouldn't bother.
You didn't write the inseam length on the screen as you were mentioning it
At least it didn't show up on my screen
Sorry totally forgot to add it in! I'm a 32inch inseam or 83cm.
Thanks for the reply 👍🏻
Hi my height is 170 cm ,this bike will good for my ??? Thanks .
With a 32" inseam I could get one foot down flat very easily, or both feet almost flat. I'm 180 cm though, and it will vary depending on whether you're on the longer legged side. There's also a lower seat and lowering kit available to drop the stock seat further though, which is worth keeping in mind if it's a little too tall stock.
Moto Journo Kris
What company produces a lower seat? I’m 172cm with a 30 inch inseam. I currently ride a 2017 KLR 650 which has a seat height of 889 mm which appears to be taller than the T7. I’m on my tip toes when stopped on the KLR. I can flat foot it on one foot when leaned slightly to that side. I’m currently waiting for my T7 I ordered to be delivered.
Perhaps I missed it but I never saw your inseam length on the screen.
I noticed most people practically all of them like to talk about how many centimeters in height they are when the consumer needs to know the inseam length that's more important. If I missed your inseam length forgive me I'm 5'8 yes with only a 29 inch inseam and I'm determined to get this by no matter what.
Yep height really doesn't mean anything when it comes to reach to the ground. I might have forgotten, I'm 32 inch inseam for reference. Longer legs and shorter torso for my height, so it can really vary between riders.
@@MotoJournoKris Leg Inseam is the key number not height, as a 33inch inseam + tend to wear thick soled boots so hoping ill be ok, ill use a lowered seat at worse and a low preload setting + maybe drop forks by 10mm.. think that'll work?
@@darthtool8131 I definitely think so, you could also consider a lowering link if it's a huge problem too, although that's better as a last resort.
Thanks for the video 👍
All yamaha need to do is fit the cb500x engine in the XT250 frame to finish off the family
It would be interesting to see a 450-500cc version!
Im 1.85 and i bent front little bit to catch handlebar..after 4 years with xt660z tenere when i rode t7 i find it uncofortable.
Now im strugling to see if theres a way to make it as comfortable as it goes cause i dont want to waste money...
Maybe check out the Seat Concepts seat, and see if you can fit a set of bars that'll be a better position. Are they too low for you?
@@MotoJournoKris yeap..too low..
Sometimes to be taller its ok for foot standing but not for handlebar catching!
@@kostasrestas There does seem to be a number of riders who had the same issue, with various solutions, definitely worth checking them out to see if they'll solve your problems!
do you know your inseam height in cm? thx
32 inch should be about 81 cm.
So I'm 1.95 u think guys this bike suits me?
It's definitely well suited to taller riders with the 880 mm seat height, you checked one out in person?
what is ur inseam length?
32 inch
it's a twin dirt bike... why it took so long to make these is beyond me. If honda would just put a twin in their 450L, they'd have a winner... (and nearly 100 lbs lighter)
Yea it's quite interesting. It looks like we'll be getting a mini Africa Twin in the 850cc (from memory) range instead, which will more closely align with the Tenere, rather than a super light CRF styled option.
@@MotoJournoKris yeah. How awesome would a sub 300 lb twin be, though? Give me a 250r with the mt-07 engine ;)
Do have the lowering links and lowered seat or is it stock?
This one was stock, apart from a few other accessories.
i own a stock 2017 Kawasaki Versys 1000. Has anyone sat on both bikes and if so, what is the comparison?
i did .the t 700 is way higher even than africa twin
One should never get used to putting both feet on the ground, even when the bike has a low seat...
I don't think it has anything to do with getting used to doing it, more that it's a good benchmark for manageability, especially for people who aren't sure.
Ι am 1.83 height , should I Buy the lower seat or not ?
I found it manageable without at a similar height, but it depends how you feel on the bike. Yamaha also offer a lowering link as another option.
The crf250l has almost the same seat height or a bit taller. Wonder how dramatic is weight and handling compared to someone used to riding 250 dual sport or dirt bikes.
Yep some of those 250s are actually a bit taller to throw a leg over. There's definitely a compromise - at least for someone at my skill level, which is basic on the dirt/off road - as you do feel that extra weight. It's not quite as easy to throw around as say a WR250R, but there's a 70kg weight difference there, much like with a CRF250L. I don't think the Tenere 700 could replace those machines for everyone, for some people the lighter weight and easier handling (especially if the bike goes down) will be more important than better road performance, but the Tenere is also certainly capable of a heap off-road, while being exceptional on road as well.
@@MotoJournoKris I've ridden the XR200 and CRF250L. They are both capable in the dirt and easy to pickup. Range is fine and riding on open roads(90 kph cruise speed) with a pillion plus luggage is not bad. But going uphill and passenger seat comfort is another story. I'm considering the t700 for that extra power and again its offroad capability. Not to mention the attractive price point. I also do the maintenance myself so I very much love the lack of advance electronics on the t700.
Would you recommend the t700 for pillion riding? Is the stock seat comfortable or should it be modified for the pillion?
@@idselseno2306 I only did a couple of short rides with my wife on the back, and she was happy with the seat/peg placement, but I'm not sure how that would translate into longer distance rides like touring, as it was only say 15 minutes at a time, including a bit of rough fire trail riding. As far as power there was plenty with an extra person on board, and it actually brought the ride height down, so an easier reach to the ground.
Were you thinking of longer distance touring with a pillion, or just the occasional shorter ride?
@@MotoJournoKris A 100 kms with luggage. I think its 2 to 3 hours ride I guess. 3 hours might be too much without stopping for some rest. But glad to know that the suspension would still drop some more. I think it's safe to say thay the pillion seat can be customized without drama. Is the seat 1 piece or 2 piece? BTW I'm 167.64 cm. and 59 kg.
@@idselseno2306 One piece seat, but I just checked with my wife and she thought an hour would be fine on that seat, and she's almost the same height as me, at about 175cm and 70kg. A grab rail or similar would help though for longer distances.
Bike so lovely .
To bad my inseam is only 30 inches, i sit on a lowered T700 with a lowering link kit & the low seat option (seat height at 840mm) & i wasn’t comfortable as i was only touching the ground with my toes.
Hard to get away from the height at a certain point as you need the ground clearance and suspension travel, but a a pair of adventure boots also helps with reach to the ground, if you tried the bike without them. That said at the end of the day, if you can't get a foot down comfortably it takes the fun out of it, as you also want the confidence to be adventurous.
Have you been on the standard Africa Twin with the seat in lowered position? I have 30" inseam as well and on both balls of feet in this configuration in street shoes. (Find it too top heavy though for my size) Still haven't been able to see a T7 in the flesh but suprised by your findings with lowering.
Is it have the similar seat height in effect compared to KTM 990? I am 161 cm and I can ride a KTM 990 Dakar edition, with one tip toe on ground. I hope tenere has a bit narrow rider seat compared to 990, I hope I could ride it
I think so, the seat heights are very similar, but the Tenere is very narrow across the seat, and I do feel like that would be an advantage, so you should fine the reach to the ground a little more manageable, but also remember there's an official lowering link available.
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I like these, but I'm 175cm on the short leg side :(
You can lower them a bit, so if you're really serious about wanting one that could be something worth exploring.
lets talk about yamahas inability to make a soft seat.
It's a hard one to get right, especially as it can vary so greatly between riders. I've ridden a few machines where I've thought the seat was great, and others have found it terrible, and visa versa. Plus I think they really kept the seat on the Tenere very thin and narrow to keep the height down and stay true to that more dirt bike theme.
I wanted an MT-07 so bad. But the seat was so terrible i just wrote it off my list. Couldn’t stand it.
170 cm = 5.7 ft
Love to buy one but they DONT SELL THEM IN THE U.S. YET! GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY!
I think they were due May/June, but there may have been some delays now!
Thank you sir, i have same weight AND hight than you. !!
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Seat is not comfy and on road runs...
Took my cousins 700 out for a ride and I was disappointed. Very low power. Not worth the money imho.
What do you normally ride by comparison?