The fact that our liver alone is 240 Billion cells, I'm constantly amazed how we're even functioning as a singular living being without more going wrong.
@Ochako kun it’s crazy how I don’t even know some of the things my body does it just does it.. and who taught it? The brain? But who taught the brain to teach them? Lol
@@1kwithabunchofplaylist..382 If God is all knowing, then that means he knows if someone will go to hell before they are created. Why would any God that is "loving" create someone who is bound to burn in the end? To me, it sounds quite cruel and something that a psychopath would do
I've been comparing humanity to an organism for some time and here it also makes sense: people die and give birth and no humans alive two hundred years ago aren't alive right now, so are we the same humanity???
I’ve worked a lot with trees and they operate in similar ways to the human body. The core of a tree’s trunk is dead heartwood, giving it structural support and the outer bark is a dead outer shell protecting its internal organs. The tree also sheds dead or dying materials such as leaves and branches.
From my research, how often body parts are completely replaced: Cornea: 24 hours Stomach / Intestines: 2 - 9 days Taste Buds: 10 Days Skin: 2 - 4 weeks Eyebrows / Eyelashes: 6 - 8 weeks Red Blood Cells: 4 months Liver: 5 months Fingernail: 6 months Toenail: 10 months Lung: 1 year Hair: 2 - 7 years Bones: 10 years Muscles: 15 years Fat Cells: 25 years Heart: 3 - 4 times over lifetime Eye Lens: Lifetime Eye: Lifetime Brain: Lifetime
@@DelLego I said 'literally" as a joke. The video says a part of me is always dying. Hence, the statement which I commented is technically correct. It signifies two meanings. Dying inside figuratively, and also brings light to the fact tht parts of my body is regenerating.
related fun fact. you'll never look better than you do today. So as you get older, and get horrified at what's happening in the mirror, try to appreciate that it's the best you that you'll ever see.
I wish I had a friend like you your energy is very calming you seem to be very compassionate towards others god bless you as much as you gather more knowledge you become more aware of how we should treat and be with others
OMG!!! I am so smart watching and listening to you. This is the answer to cancer and not sure why 'they' can't get a cure. You are awesome. You make me smarter.
Life Science textbook: “all multicellular organisms have nuclei in their cells.” Red blood cells: “well yes, but actually no.” Biology has a lot of weird exceptions
@@Kophe3e Dont just 'hope' for this channel to grow: Actively recommend-it-around and share it as much as you can. And you may as well ask me for some recommendations for science-youtuber and all such. Cause why not. The Learning never ends anyway.
Weirder is "how much of you isn't you". At least 65% of the cells in/on our bodies are microbes and other tiny life-forms. All indications are that plants and animals were formed/evolved by microbial life to be their host organisms.
@@ooooneeee wrote a brain, which isn't the same as claiming it was written by "my" brain since the brain organizes itself begins to operate before any sense of Self begins.
okie here is a thing.. technically speaking sun does ticks out few criteria of being alive.. it uses energy, it has a complex structure it has a temperature which regulates and to some extent on can say it even reproduces because after it will die the the new elements will be used up to create more stuff in the universe..... Personally i don`t consider scientific criteria because you will generally hit a fuzzy area if you try to progress like this where things will seem alive and dead at same time... i believe it would be better if one just says whatever moves than it is alive... if you look like this than there isn`t anything that isn`t moving... so everything is alive and you don`t hit a point where you see dead chemicals creating life..
I like how alot of the best youtubers come out with videos containing similar topics at same time but there own personal spin. Vsauce just tackled this aswell
3:05 reminds me of that line in Pocahontas' song "Just around the Riverbend" What I love most about rivers is you *CAN'T STEP IN THE SAME RIVERS TWICE* ... The water's always changing always flowing... Disney was teaching us about stuff before we knew we were learning!
The important part of ourselves is not the particular matter, but how the matter is organized. Even as cells come and go, the organization is maintained.
Dude that is smart!!! I've been struggling with the concept of personal identity ever since I watched the Crash Course philosophy video on it. It think you might have just provided the beginning of the answer, thank you so much!!
I never realized that blood cells were missing so much of what other cells typically have! That's pretty amazing to think about, that they might not actually be considered cells because they are missing so much!!! - I always love the content of these videos!! :D
A blood 'cell' is a misnomer. you'd have to read up about why it's called a cell when the biological understanding is something that has a nucleus, which a blood 'cell' does not - the correct word for a 'blood cell' is a erythrocyte.
actually, this video gives me a new appreciation for the work that my cells do, independent of "me", to keep me alive. 🌻 i will do my best not to make their job any harder than it needs to be. 🤗
To solve the Theseus Paradox: It's whatever you consider the original thing, that's the original, our entire perception of who is who, and what is what is made of bias and considerations.
To me living beings and inanimate objects are different. I say the ship becomes new when there is more new parts than the original ship. Than it's just a replica. For living beings your cells make new ones and such. Buts that's a process that happens with in your own body. If you pop your arm off and replace it with someone else's it's not your original arm. The arm now belongs to you. But it wasn't yours you replaced it from an outside source. Now if say the ship regenerated itself I'd say it'd the same ship.
@@XWierdThingsHappenX "living beings and inanimate objects are different" no, they aren't. living beings are "inanimate" objects with some behavior. there's no such a thing as inanimate in this universe, there's movement everywhere, everything is changing. Living things are just a kind of changing behavior with feedback that keeps looping and repeating itself. Its more like a spectrum between living and "dead". Who say rocks aren't alive in the millions of years scale, we can't see them changing because we live for so little time.
@@XWierdThingsHappenX this is such a binary thinking... worth of computers, not humans "I say the ship becomes new when there is more new parts than the original ship." Parts don't matter, what matters is the abstract structure, that's why you could replace all the parts and still have that ship. 50% of parts replaced is such an arbitrary number... This western foundation of thinking, this essentialism and immutable "purity". Yet, people believe in souls... go figure What's a soul if not the abstract mathematical structure of a thing, that's what defines it, not the real parts. Complex things have no essential formula, they are complex dynamic systems, you can't reduce complexity. Damn reductionism , that is, bullshit. You have to study things on the proper level of complexity, you switch between levels, you never try to break things into smaller things. That only works for computers and mathematics, not for complex dynamic systems, which living things are. The total is always greater than sum of the parts in complex systems. That's what leads people to hopelessly try to separate things into categories like "life" and "inanimate", when actually both are the same thing, the categories are made up, they are arbitrary, such binary reductionism leads to no understanding. Life is made of chemistry which is made of "inanimate" matter. But chemistry is much dynamic, just go see some things exploding, that's chemistry, life is controlled explosion that keeps burning. Even wonder why we consume oxygen ? its because we are slowly burning things, that's what mitochondria does. You only need a self-fulfilling chemical reaction to evolve over time to create life. Life is not different from any other chemical reaction, except in complexity, its much more complex, has much more abstraction layers on top of each other, each of it giving birth to new complex irreducible behavior on top of the previous layer, but its just chemistry on the bottom, not a different "magical" thing. The magic is the universal complexity. Yet, no part of it could evolve individually by chance, that's when people make the error. But still, if it starts very simple, it evolves in irreducible complexity from the very "beginning", if you can call a begin. Was it when the planet was formed ? when it cooled down, or its already the result of the complex chemical reactions of that big ball of matter that formed earth cooling down, where's the beginning of the reaction ? was it when the Sun exploded for the first time in its nuclear reaction from space dust ? perhaps... Chemistry only needs gradients in thermodynamics to work... That's the only thing it needs, and that was created in the first milliseconds of the Universe, it all goes back to the singularity. Everything is like the same thing, its pure energy ! That's the soul of the Universe. Universe itself is alive in is uttermost complexity.
If you think about it; our body is a dystopia, every cell fights for us to live and breath even if it costs their life, and cancer are the ones who realize it's a dystopia
I see it more like a naturalistic ecosystem, our cells are just like raccoons and possum, they do what they were designed, evolved to do, eat, excrete, procreate, die Our bodies are super complex forests, we're the parts interact and in the grand scheme of things contribute to the whole
@@joroc well it all depends how much you anthromorphise your cells. Are they akin to slaves, indentured servants, wild animals, fungi on a forest floor, etc. Each commenter has their own metaphor which changes the moral evaluation when they “step back and think about it”.
I like to think that no matter how many parts of something gets replaced as long as the concept of the original exists. Like a memory of how that something once was. Even if it's functionally a replica of the original, i'd still call it the original since it technically doesn't make a difference.
To take that one step further. If a perfect clone was created of a specific person and the original person was killed off, is the clone still the same person? Technically yes, but emotionally i might still treat the clone differently😂
You can never step in the same river twice because it isn't the same river the second time you step in it is one of the greatest existential arguments humans have ever stated. Causality is Empress is how I think of it. We are governed by entropy and rejuvenation and those things are governed by causality. Causality may be programmed or it may be randomly occurring but, as it is another way of discussing change, _the_ absolute universal constant. If one studies biology and human physiology, one learns the things you're sharing but, I think, are often forgotten because, well, causality.
Sir Terry Pratchett (in the book Thud, I think) brought this question up years ago. It's worth the philosophical energy expended. Change is a constant.
if you copied every single thing of information in your brain and it is transfered to a machine just to let your brain die, would that mean that you are dead or you are still alive inside of the machine (full consciousness in de machine)
@@paulogarcia9557 There would be no continuity between your brain and the information copied into the machine. You would be dead. It would like tracing a drawing and destroying the original
@@paulogarcia9557 Are digital photos the same photons that hitted the camera at that time. But being reproduced on a screen makes it not that original photo anymore.
It is a fair question, and I like Vision's answer in that the ship is the rot and wear, the experiences of the thing, accumulated along the way much like we are our memories, knowledge, and responses accumulated along our own lives.
Everything has a core element to it that, once replaced, changes the old into the new. For a ship its the keel, for an ideology it its core tenants, and for a person its your brain. We are still us even though we replace ourselves because the brain is never replaced.
Regarding the ships, the knife, the stack: It's by definition what we define it as. If we say "That ship is the ship of theseus" then it's that until we say "nah, it's not that anymore as we changed too much around"
I think the key to the Ship of Theseus to me is the line between maintenance and rebuilding. If every year the ship operates I need to rip off a few planks that have rotted and replace them, most people would agree that the ship has continuity and it hasn’t really changed even after years and every bit being replaced. But if the ship sunk and then a year later just the bow washed up on some shore and I rebuilt the rest of the ship, it would seem more that I’ve built something new, using a small bit of something older. Some people might say, well… there’s still a continuity, but most people would also think it reasonable that upon completing this rebuild I give this ship a new name, and that it would have something of a new identity. Still tied to the old one, but nonetheless distinct. I think it’s sort of, as long as the action of replacing only affects a minority of the whole at any one time, it’s fine.
That's the whole point of the thought experiment, though. You aren't really making an argument, it just kills the whole line of thinking. If everything is as we define it, then philosophy and debate is pointless and why the hell are you even commenting? The whole thing boils down to the question, where is the boundary between thinking it's just being maintained and when does it become new? Where should our definition draw the line? Please stop thinking you are edgy, cool or helping any debate/thought experiment ever with this kind of logic. It's similiar to the religious filling in stuff they don't know with god. It just kills the discussion and serves no real purpose. Everyone capable of this level of critical thought understands how language works.
@@BD-yl5mh it really depends on the view of the persons involved. If more then half the people interacting with the object call it by a specific name (and it has no way of disputing that or naming itself) then that's more or less the name. Philosophy seems to try to think about something more then it needs to to come to a conclusion. Sure we could define "The ship isn't the ship of theseus anymore if 51% are changed out by new/other material" but in the end it's the people who still call it "the ship of theseus" who give it that specific identity until enough people change it to a different identity. (I'm not saying if enough people call a rock a bird that now it should'Ve be able to fly and chirp, what I'm saying is if enough people call a rock a bird then the name changes, nothing else)
@@DarthObscurity What's the purpose of arguing about the name of something? Because it's really only that if we only argue about the identity of something. The identity is that of which enough (most) people give to an object (a person can normally try and articulate their identity and we should accept that one, even if we don't agree) What I'm saying is: in the real world we more or less just give something an identity until enough people change their mind/call it something else. Almost noone in the real world argues about how much changed of something especially if they don't even know how much changed (or don't care) just to give it an identity. What I'm saying is: I'm me and my name is Quintar for as long as I (and others) are willing to call me Quintar. No matter of how many parts of myself I change will change that fact until I decide to change my identity/name.
Thank you, due to this video my great great grandpa from misisiiropouipi said this in court after he got charged for 92nd degree murder and he is no longer a free man
So, are we living the Star Trek transporter paradox in extreme slow motion, or is it the near instantaneous action of the transporter that makes it a paradox?
i"ve never thought about died cells and how much of me is alive before watching this video. Thanks to creator of this video. Now i think about all of these fact. fascinating video
Whenever someone tattoos a part of his/her body, if the ink is not part of the body, then why doesn’t the tattoos go away along with the dead cells? You would think that the tattoos would disappear with the dead cells within a 100 days of putting them on. However, I still have the tattoos on the very same place where they were put on 12 years ago. Is it possible that whenever a foreign object, such as ink, is incorporated with the skin that that foreign object becomes an integral part of the cells? If so, then how exactly is that possible?
The ink just cant/doesnt get absorbed and at the same time its deep enough that it doesnt get washed off ,thats it,the tatto doesnt get like intracellular or something for it to disappear with skin , It just exist there
I don't completely remember the full answer but the ink is needled into deeper skin layers, and causes an immune response which kinda holds the ink in place as your body cannot just break it down (immediately).
I am a set of behaviors and experiences. Just like how my body is a formation of physical traits that even when its parts are replaced, still grows to resemble is the same body.
I'd say Theseus's ship would still be considered his ship. It's an object made up of many parts. As long as it retains it's shape it's still a shape. However, laws vary on antique cars. To be considered an antique it must retain a certain percentage of it's original equipment. If that percentage exceeds the percentage it's still a classic or custom car but not an antique.
To continue the thought experiment: save all the pieces you replace of Theseus's ship and then build a new, complete ship from the old pieces. Now you have two ships. Which one is the "real" ship? Going by the logic that the ship made out of replacement parts is still Theseus's ship, what does that make the ship made with the original parts?
Imo if it still looks and functions the same it's the same as far as i'm concerned. I mean yeah, it's made of all new pieces but it still gets the job done.
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"Youre dead on the inside right now"
I took that literally
Take care
I took that metaphorically
"Literally" is what you just said
It’s sadly very true
Same :(
The fact that our liver alone is 240 Billion cells, I'm constantly amazed how we're even functioning as a singular living being without more going wrong.
@Ochako kun it’s crazy how I don’t even know some of the things my body does it just does it.. and who taught it? The brain? But who taught the brain to teach them? Lol
@@1kwithabunchofplaylist..382 If God is all knowing, then that means he knows if someone will go to hell before they are created. Why would any God that is "loving" create someone who is bound to burn in the end? To me, it sounds quite cruel and something that a psychopath would do
@@GamingManiacMan hell isnt real actually humans created that to scare people into paying churches to "guarantee" being saved. Not real
Ok people should really stop talking about religion here
@@Htiy genetics!! Lol
"Honey, you're not the same person I met twelve years ago" takes on a whole new meaning in this context.
😭😭😭😭
You are not either
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA HAAAAAAAH HAH
Also to the phrase, "You've really let yourself go." Well, yeah. We kinda don't have a choice.
The heart is istill the same
I've been comparing humanity to an organism for some time and here it also makes sense: people die and give birth and no humans alive two hundred years ago aren't alive right now, so are we the same humanity???
Yeah. Humanity and, in general, the nature are like a one big living organism
@@la912 Humanity is more like cancer
I think you mean society.
I’ve worked a lot with trees and they operate in similar ways to the human body. The core of a tree’s trunk is dead heartwood, giving it structural support and the outer bark is a dead outer shell protecting its internal organs. The tree also sheds dead or dying materials such as leaves and branches.
Since metabolism ceases in the outer layers of skin, the part of any person you've ever touched is only the dead part.
Good thing I touch the inner layer😏
@@moneymatt1691 sus
*touches your wounds*
How about the orifices?
I see dead people.
From my research, how often body parts are completely replaced:
Cornea: 24 hours
Stomach / Intestines: 2 - 9 days
Taste Buds: 10 Days
Skin: 2 - 4 weeks
Eyebrows / Eyelashes: 6 - 8 weeks
Red Blood Cells: 4 months
Liver: 5 months
Fingernail: 6 months
Toenail: 10 months
Lung: 1 year
Hair: 2 - 7 years
Bones: 10 years
Muscles: 15 years
Fat Cells: 25 years
Heart: 3 - 4 times over lifetime
Eye Lens: Lifetime
Eye: Lifetime
Brain: Lifetime
Then based on your research, well over 80 to 90 percent of each of us has been replaced already.
Does that considers the atoms trading?😌
I can HAVE 3-4 hearts in a lifetime!
Legit??
Is this data from whatsapp University?
"you are dying inside right now"
Yeah ... I noticed that.
"We are not things, but processes." -Robert Hass, A Little Book on Form
(pretty sure that's right, didn't check today)
*"I am not a body, I am a spirit living through this body."*
~Vedanta Philosophy.
This seems so much more right after watching this video.
Sure once you classify spirit.
@@randallbesch2424at the least, we do maintain our minds throughout our lives :D
@@kiwionkeysEven that's not true since who we were when we were children and who we are now as adults will be very different.
@@reddytoplay9188 well yeah, materialistically, our minds are the same, but yes what happens in them can be entirely unrecognizable :0
Thumbnail "Part of you is dead"
Me "I know, you don't need to remind me."
F
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Rip
i'm way ahead of ya
Cringe
I LITERALLY died inside while reading so many "dying inside" jokes.
And yet here you are
If you LITERALLY died inside you wouldn't be able to comment ya know
@@DelLego I said 'literally" as a joke. The video says a part of me is always dying. Hence, the statement which I commented is technically correct. It signifies two
meanings. Dying inside figuratively, and also brings light to the fact tht parts of my body is regenerating.
@@DelLego But our cells are literally dying inside tho.
@@tamaghnosaha2520 Yeah now that I think about it, I suppose technically you're right. I just tired of seeing people using "literally" wrong
2 lines came to mind in the 1st minute:
"theseus's ship"
and
"it will not grow back"
my mind rembembering the scene from wandavision finale
My mind went a bit further with associations till very "John dies at the end" =)
ribs grow back
@@boldCactuslad _no zhey don't_
For anyone in the UK - Trigger's Broom: th-cam.com/video/LAh8HryVaeY/w-d-xo.html
Fun fact: every second, we get closer to death
related fun fact. you'll never look better than you do today. So as you get older, and get horrified at what's happening in the mirror, try to appreciate that it's the best you that you'll ever see.
What if you dont get horrified
@@wendysgarden4283 thx now I feel depressed
That's terrifying, thanks!
No way I never would've guess that
i love this video it helps me understand life better but also just makes me more uncertain and thoughtful.
"you are dying inside right now" uhm no i already am dead inside
Ye I feel dead
Lmaoooo 😂😂😂
I work retail. You speak facts
Tee hee hee
Damn that’s sad bro ruok
"You know, I'm somewhat a dead person myself."
My hand dies when i sleep on it
Yes it looks on your profile photo
Hey fellow deadman, give me deadman high five
Joe's avatar in all animations suffers a lot.
Kick the Joe now on mobile!
@@caroline6218 lol that def should be a game on mobile.
I would wanna play.
I wish I had a friend like you your energy is very calming you seem to be very compassionate towards others god bless you as much as you gather more knowledge you become more aware of how we should treat and be with others
Your content is literally amazing. The way you explain thing is phenomenal ❤️👀
8:39 thank you for this: _it's not made of cells, it's made by cells_ - finally it cleared my misconceptions.
Apoptosis, as opposed to K-poptosis: when a band member reaches adulthood and is replaced by a younger one.
when I was 7 years old I replaced my favorite k-pop band member
Love this 👌
**NCT Dream suddenly disintegrate**
**Super Junior fade out of existence**
**Apink spontaneously explode**
Lol😂😅
Joe looks like he wants to use his knife to find out how much we're alive
I’m seeing this coming
Screaming
i think to find out how much HE is alive
😇
I was wondering why the metaphor was with a knife…
This is so interesting. I love your channel!
OMG!!! I am so smart watching and listening to you.
This is the answer to cancer and
not sure why 'they' can't get a cure.
You are awesome. You make me smarter.
“Your body’s janitors are good at what they do”
Hotel CEOs: *i have a job offer for you*
i want a better offer.
a much better offer.
I have had a broom for years, it's had 5 new handles and 3 new heads, but it's still my broom...I've certainly not bought a new one for a long time!
😁
... or have you?
science meets philosophy
Or did you?
All I can say, what a fantastic investment, one single buy, plus spare parts "only". lol ;)
@@fernandomerida3752 *vsauce music plays*
Life Science textbook: “all multicellular organisms have nuclei in their cells.”
Red blood cells: “well yes, but actually no.”
Biology has a lot of weird exceptions
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, very funny
I didn’t know red blood cells was a micro cellular organism, lol
@@Kophe3e Dont just 'hope' for this channel to grow:
Actively recommend-it-around and share it as much as you can.
And you may as well ask me for some recommendations for science-youtuber and all such.
Cause why not. The Learning never ends anyway.
lmao don't forget platelets
cough cough chemistry cough cough
So much change in my wife & I over the past 26 years, & we never noticed!!
Weirder is "how much of you isn't you". At least 65% of the cells in/on our bodies are microbes and other tiny life-forms. All indications are that plants and animals were formed/evolved by microbial life to be their host organisms.
Well, at least I'm relieved that our brains mostly stay the same, which is what I consider to truly be "me"
Your brain isn't "you" since the individual identity is a social construct and therefore not an actual thing.
@Sentient Flower Wrong address. The postmodernists’ party is two blocks down the road.
@@sentientflower7891 ... wrote your brain.
@@agnesfonmarten you must know that you aren't an actual thing. The illusion of Self is created initially by the gift of a name.
@@ooooneeee wrote a brain, which isn't the same as claiming it was written by "my" brain since the brain organizes itself begins to operate before any sense of Self begins.
Hope nobody's going through an existential crisis after that! Great video joe/team!!!
"Life exists on a spectrum."
I posit that rocks and the Sun are alive.
i've honestly thought about if starts technically count as being alive. they do have the fusion stuff going on which is keeping them as stars
A freaking potato just became the president.
@@megamillionfreak Just barely alive
okie here is a thing.. technically speaking sun does ticks out few criteria of being alive.. it uses energy, it has a complex structure it has a temperature which regulates and to some extent on can say it even reproduces because after it will die the the new elements will be used up to create more stuff in the universe..... Personally i don`t consider scientific criteria because you will generally hit a fuzzy area if you try to progress like this where things will seem alive and dead at same time... i believe it would be better if one just says whatever moves than it is alive... if you look like this than there isn`t anything that isn`t moving... so everything is alive and you don`t hit a point where you see dead chemicals creating life..
The sun is not alive, no star is alive the fact people are even considering this proves how slow humanity really has become
I like how alot of the best youtubers come out with videos containing similar topics at same time but there own personal spin.
Vsauce just tackled this aswell
3:05 reminds me of that line in Pocahontas' song "Just around the Riverbend"
What I love most about rivers is
you *CAN'T STEP IN THE SAME RIVERS TWICE* ... The water's always changing always flowing...
Disney was teaching us about stuff before we knew we were learning!
To me, the easiest way to solve this, ontologically, is to think of entities as processes, not fixed states. :P
perfect, i like that too! thank you for sharing!
The important part of ourselves is not the particular matter, but how the matter is organized. Even as cells come and go, the organization is maintained.
Dude that is smart!!! I've been struggling with the concept of personal identity ever since I watched the Crash Course philosophy video on it. It think you might have just provided the beginning of the answer, thank you so much!!
@@Matthew-rl3zf I got u fam, keep on doubting
@@andremoreiragraca Thanks brother, my motto is follow your doubts not your dreams
Very thought provoking episode - Great job, Joe!
Me on a first date.
Date asks me: so tell me about yourself.
Me: Well, I'm made of blebs and stuff and a part of my is dying as we speak
😂
Don't try it you will be blacklisted by The devs himself
3:40 thanks for the imagery! 😭
I never realized that blood cells were missing so much of what other cells typically have! That's pretty amazing to think about, that they might not actually be considered cells because they are missing so much!!! - I always love the content of these videos!! :D
A blood 'cell' is a misnomer. you'd have to read up about why it's called a cell when the biological understanding is something that has a nucleus, which a blood 'cell' does not - the correct word for a 'blood cell' is a erythrocyte.
It's a nonkaryotic cell.
actually, this video gives me a new appreciation for the work that my cells do, independent of "me", to keep me alive. 🌻
i will do my best not to make their job any harder than it needs to be. 🤗
Alternate name for this video : Vision explains about the ship of Theseus .
I always thought he looked similar to Paul Bettany
I can see that resemblance.
Yeah I see that
Ha i understood that reference!
Even if the tissue doesn't regenerate the cells still "eat and poop", neurons change eletrons thus changing
That's an interesting thought.
Everybody gangsta till a cell decides it doesn’t want to die
This puts a whole new meaning on the saying “Feels like I'm dying to live” 😂
To solve the Theseus Paradox: It's whatever you consider the original thing, that's the original, our entire perception of who is who, and what is what is made of bias and considerations.
and our perception is our reality. and our brain controls our perception.
To me living beings and inanimate objects are different. I say the ship becomes new when there is more new parts than the original ship. Than it's just a replica. For living beings your cells make new ones and such. Buts that's a process that happens with in your own body. If you pop your arm off and replace it with someone else's it's not your original arm. The arm now belongs to you. But it wasn't yours you replaced it from an outside source. Now if say the ship regenerated itself I'd say it'd the same ship.
people get mad at me when I say learning is biasing.
@@XWierdThingsHappenX "living beings and inanimate objects are different" no, they aren't. living beings are "inanimate" objects with some behavior.
there's no such a thing as inanimate in this universe, there's movement everywhere, everything is changing. Living things are just a kind of changing behavior with feedback that keeps looping and repeating itself.
Its more like a spectrum between living and "dead".
Who say rocks aren't alive in the millions of years scale, we can't see them changing because we live for so little time.
@@XWierdThingsHappenX this is such a binary thinking... worth of computers, not humans
"I say the ship becomes new when there is more new parts than the original ship."
Parts don't matter, what matters is the abstract structure, that's why you could replace all the parts and still have that ship.
50% of parts replaced is such an arbitrary number...
This western foundation of thinking, this essentialism and immutable "purity".
Yet, people believe in souls... go figure
What's a soul if not the abstract mathematical structure of a thing, that's what defines it, not the real parts.
Complex things have no essential formula, they are complex dynamic systems, you can't reduce complexity. Damn reductionism , that is, bullshit. You have to study things on the proper level of complexity, you switch between levels, you never try to break things into smaller things.
That only works for computers and mathematics, not for complex dynamic systems, which living things are. The total is always greater than sum of the parts in complex systems.
That's what leads people to hopelessly try to separate things into categories like "life" and "inanimate", when actually both are the same thing, the categories are made up, they are arbitrary, such binary reductionism leads to no understanding. Life is made of chemistry which is made of "inanimate" matter.
But chemistry is much dynamic, just go see some things exploding, that's chemistry, life is controlled explosion that keeps burning. Even wonder why we consume oxygen ? its because we are slowly burning things, that's what mitochondria does.
You only need a self-fulfilling chemical reaction to evolve over time to create life. Life is not different from any other chemical reaction, except in complexity, its much more complex, has much more abstraction layers on top of each other, each of it giving birth to new complex irreducible behavior on top of the previous layer, but its just chemistry on the bottom, not a different "magical" thing.
The magic is the universal complexity.
Yet, no part of it could evolve individually by chance, that's when people make the error.
But still, if it starts very simple, it evolves in irreducible complexity from the very "beginning", if you can call a begin.
Was it when the planet was formed ? when it cooled down, or its already the result of the complex chemical reactions of that big ball of matter that formed earth cooling down, where's the beginning of the reaction ? was it when the Sun exploded for the first time in its nuclear reaction from space dust ? perhaps...
Chemistry only needs gradients in thermodynamics to work...
That's the only thing it needs, and that was created in the first milliseconds of the Universe, it all goes back to the singularity. Everything is like the same thing, its pure energy ! That's the soul of the Universe.
Universe itself is alive in is uttermost complexity.
joe- "you are literally dying inside"
yessir ✨emotionally✨
cringe
@@laser2144 shut up 🥺🤧
How are you doing inside emotionally? How old are you? Do you even know what you are talking about?
@@afroblender8023 I am not so great...... I am 19 yrs old.... and yeah ik what I'm talking bout.......
@@notsiddhi2820 hmmm why are you dying inside?
Your video supports my view: life is a near-death experience, for one's life contains one's death as a viable, intrinsic component.
So fascinating. Great video :)
This is amazing content.keep up the good work Joe!!
If you think about it; our body is a dystopia, every cell fights for us to live and breath even if it costs their life, and cancer are the ones who realize it's a dystopia
I see it more like a naturalistic ecosystem, our cells are just like raccoons and possum, they do what they were designed, evolved to do, eat, excrete, procreate, die
Our bodies are super complex forests, we're the parts interact and in the grand scheme of things contribute to the whole
It's a dystopia to contribute for the community that keeps you alive?
Yeah how interesting isn't it
@@joroc well it all depends how much you anthromorphise your cells. Are they akin to slaves, indentured servants, wild animals, fungi on a forest floor, etc. Each commenter has their own metaphor which changes the moral evaluation when they “step back and think about it”.
Cancer are simply cells that refuse to die and thus cause problems to others
I like to think that no matter how many parts of something gets replaced as long as the concept of the original exists.
Like a memory of how that something once was. Even if it's functionally a replica of the original, i'd still call it the original since it technically doesn't make a difference.
To take that one step further. If a perfect clone was created of a specific person and the original person was killed off, is the clone still the same person? Technically yes, but emotionally i might still treat the clone differently😂
@@bobikoart but you're qualia would decease due the break in consciousness continous
Hey, thanks i always had this question in mind
Nice pfp bro
I mean, the program running in my brain is ongoing and constant. Even when unconscious. So the "new" me is _mine_ I'd argue is a better wording.
You can never step in the same river twice because it isn't the same river the second time you step in it is one of the greatest existential arguments humans have ever stated. Causality is Empress is how I think of it. We are governed by entropy and rejuvenation and those things are governed by causality. Causality may be programmed or it may be randomly occurring but, as it is another way of discussing change, _the_ absolute universal constant. If one studies biology and human physiology, one learns the things you're sharing but, I think, are often forgotten because, well, causality.
Nice cut at 3:38 - really smooth, good job to the editor! :) Although it does look a little like Joe got a mini-seizure for a split second there :P
Lmao I thought I was only who noticed that 😂
Sir Terry Pratchett (in the book Thud, I think) brought this question up years ago. It's worth the philosophical energy expended. Change is a constant.
Disclaimer:
Technically you is brain(it get's nearly never replaced)
Body is just your toolset to do things.
if you copied every single thing of information in your brain and it is transfered to a machine just to let your brain die, would that mean that you are dead or you are still alive inside of the machine (full consciousness in de machine)
no no no....
he's got a point
@@paulogarcia9557 now
@@paulogarcia9557 There would be no continuity between your brain and the information copied into the machine. You would be dead. It would like tracing a drawing and destroying the original
@@paulogarcia9557 Are digital photos the same photons that hitted the camera at that time. But being reproduced on a screen makes it not that original photo anymore.
In the immortal words of Philip J. Fry - "Thanks to denial, I'm immortal!"
I wasn't even thinking about and now I am. Thank you.
"Welcome home thesius."
- Sun Tzu, The art of war.
Ah, I've found a fellow Techno fan
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I guess this is part of why we look so different when we age. It's like making a copy of a copy of a copy, on and on until it's all distorted.
It is a fair question, and I like Vision's answer in that the ship is the rot and wear, the experiences of the thing, accumulated along the way much like we are our memories, knowledge, and responses accumulated along our own lives.
Ah, man of culture
Memories of a dead child, a dead teen, a dead adult and an old person
Everything has a core element to it that, once replaced, changes the old into the new. For a ship its the keel, for an ideology it its core tenants, and for a person its your brain. We are still us even though we replace ourselves because the brain is never replaced.
Commenting for the algorithm, because this channel deserves it :")
11:50 Pfft at my age my body is a more like an apartment building in some crime-ridden ghetto. No tatoos so at least it's graffiti-free.
5:15 - "Instead of changing your oil, you just poured more in?" - You've never owned a '67 Impala then, I take it.....
"Youre dead on the inside right now" In more than one way Joe
I really enjoy watching your videos thanks Joe!
Keep going, I really love your videos 💪😍
Regarding the ships, the knife, the stack: It's by definition what we define it as. If we say "That ship is the ship of theseus" then it's that until we say "nah, it's not that anymore as we changed too much around"
I believe the question is getting at where we should draw the line. At what point should we start calling it smth else?
I think the key to the Ship of Theseus to me is the line between maintenance and rebuilding.
If every year the ship operates I need to rip off a few planks that have rotted and replace them, most people would agree that the ship has continuity and it hasn’t really changed even after years and every bit being replaced.
But if the ship sunk and then a year later just the bow washed up on some shore and I rebuilt the rest of the ship, it would seem more that I’ve built something new, using a small bit of something older. Some people might say, well… there’s still a continuity, but most people would also think it reasonable that upon completing this rebuild I give this ship a new name, and that it would have something of a new identity. Still tied to the old one, but nonetheless distinct.
I think it’s sort of, as long as the action of replacing only affects a minority of the whole at any one time, it’s fine.
That's the whole point of the thought experiment, though. You aren't really making an argument, it just kills the whole line of thinking. If everything is as we define it, then philosophy and debate is pointless and why the hell are you even commenting?
The whole thing boils down to the question, where is the boundary between thinking it's just being maintained and when does it become new? Where should our definition draw the line?
Please stop thinking you are edgy, cool or helping any debate/thought experiment ever with this kind of logic. It's similiar to the religious filling in stuff they don't know with god. It just kills the discussion and serves no real purpose. Everyone capable of this level of critical thought understands how language works.
@@BD-yl5mh it really depends on the view of the persons involved. If more then half the people interacting with the object call it by a specific name (and it has no way of disputing that or naming itself) then that's more or less the name.
Philosophy seems to try to think about something more then it needs to to come to a conclusion. Sure we could define "The ship isn't the ship of theseus anymore if 51% are changed out by new/other material" but in the end it's the people who still call it "the ship of theseus" who give it that specific identity until enough people change it to a different identity. (I'm not saying if enough people call a rock a bird that now it should'Ve be able to fly and chirp, what I'm saying is if enough people call a rock a bird then the name changes, nothing else)
@@DarthObscurity What's the purpose of arguing about the name of something? Because it's really only that if we only argue about the identity of something. The identity is that of which enough (most) people give to an object
(a person can normally try and articulate their identity and we should accept that one, even if we don't agree)
What I'm saying is: in the real world we more or less just give something an identity until enough people change their mind/call it something else. Almost noone in the real world argues about how much changed of something especially if they don't even know how much changed (or don't care) just to give it an identity.
What I'm saying is: I'm me and my name is Quintar for as long as I (and others) are willing to call me Quintar. No matter of how many parts of myself I change will change that fact until I decide to change my identity/name.
Joe: there was this guy Theseus
Me who has watched Wandavision: oh that ain’t gonna work
wdym... it worked! (spoiler alert)
I'm calling it, if I ever watch wandavision I'm going to have a flashback of reading this comment whenever whatever this is about comes up
The animation of the couple replaced by you was funny 😂
Thank you, due to this video my great great grandpa from misisiiropouipi said this in court after he got charged for 92nd degree murder and he is no longer a free man
Woah, never thought the questions I asked when I'm high is actually being studied or be featured in a sci channel😮
So, are we living the Star Trek transporter paradox in extreme slow motion, or is it the near instantaneous action of the transporter that makes it a paradox?
"parts of you are dieying"
me who works in a minimum wage job: Fk he figure me out !
Small note: red blood cells DO metabolize glucose. That has to be accounted for when testing blood sugar. Source: CLS grad student
They also have a cytoskeleton for shape other than enzymes for doing what you said.
True. They use anaerobic glycolysis to metabolize sugar. It's inefficient, but it doesn't use up any of the oxygen they carry.
Great video, thanks.
i"ve never thought about died cells and how much of me is alive before watching this video. Thanks to creator of this video. Now i think about all of these fact. fascinating video
My last gf made sure my heart was broken down.
Let’s see how many subs I can gain from this comment currently at 61
Me too man, me too.
that feeling ia gonna go away bro, stay strong
*"Hey! How you're doing, I'm doing just fine I lied, I'm dying inside," now has a new meaning!* 🤔😂
"there's a French saying about a knife"
Well, there's a Greek one about a boat that works similarly
ive never seen something so disturbing yet so beautiful
Thank you for sharing this video.
Whenever someone tattoos a part of his/her body, if the ink is not part of the body, then why doesn’t the tattoos go away along with the dead cells? You would think that the tattoos would disappear with the dead cells within a 100 days of putting them on. However, I still have the tattoos on the very same place where they were put on 12 years ago. Is it possible that whenever a foreign object, such as ink, is incorporated with the skin that that foreign object becomes an integral part of the cells? If so, then how exactly is that possible?
I think it is because the ink is deep into the skin, so it doesn’t get shed away.
The ink just cant/doesnt get absorbed and at the same time its deep enough that it doesnt get washed off ,thats it,the tatto doesnt get like intracellular or something for it to disappear with skin , It just exist there
I don't completely remember the full answer but the ink is needled into deeper skin layers, and causes an immune response which kinda holds the ink in place as your body cannot just break it down (immediately).
Title: what part inside you is dead
Me: yes
Haha
@@DyslexicMitochondria your username made me click on your profile. Your channel is a hidden gem bro
Fr you're spitting facts
@@DyslexicMitochondria you're channel needs to be more famous its a hidden gem 💎
"if instead of changing your oil, you just kept pouring more in"
BMW like >>
I am a set of behaviors and experiences. Just like how my body is a formation of physical traits that even when its parts are replaced, still grows to resemble is the same body.
3:37 I don’t like how fast you said “otherwise” there 😭
If you go to bathroom and #2, each squeeze indicates 20% loss of age.
- Can't make this up seriously no joke.
So in 5 poops I’ll be dead?
@@Chaos_Nova 6 poops indicate you are among the undead.
Every time you pick your nose is tickles you brain stimulating a 37% increase in IQ
Can't make this stuff up seriously!
@@bdemaree everytime you blow boogers you’re releasing part of your brain
he says "you are dieing right now ,in a functional and beautifully orcestrated way" woow🤣🤣🤣👍seems like a drama scene
So my dad WAS right, I am Brain-dead. Joking not joking
lol
"Because you are dying inside!" literally changes the meaning of both paragraphs.
We are always alive, our cells , don’t die all at once . It is still us regenerated , over time .
"Part of you is dead"
Me: *I know*
Lol
I'd say Theseus's ship would still be considered his ship. It's an object made up of many parts. As long as it retains it's shape it's still a shape.
However, laws vary on antique cars. To be considered an antique it must retain a certain percentage of it's original equipment. If that percentage exceeds the percentage it's still a classic or custom car but not an antique.
To continue the thought experiment: save all the pieces you replace of Theseus's ship and then build a new, complete ship from the old pieces. Now you have two ships. Which one is the "real" ship? Going by the logic that the ship made out of replacement parts is still Theseus's ship, what does that make the ship made with the original parts?
@@zelest the ship with the original parts is a rotted mess.
Imo if it still looks and functions the same it's the same as far as i'm concerned. I mean yeah, it's made of all new pieces but it still gets the job done.
@@zelest the original one is the one Theseus is using at the moment, just simple as that
It's more about context and structure than the contents
Joe wielding that knife at the beginning had some serious Bo Burnham vibes.
I have a job interview tomorrow and I sure know what I’m gonna say now when they ask me to “tell me a little bit about yourself” lol
One can be alive on the outside, but dead inside.