C7 Z06 Track Tested - The Slip Angle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Today Quinn takes a rip in a C7 Z06 on the FCP Euro Proving Grounds at Limerock Park. Will this car beat our lap record?
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Variety is fun, appreciate the skill and talent it takes to drive such a wide range of cars with so little seat time.
Thank you Dave! It's true, we literally shoot these in one take with no seat time prior!
Just a little constructive criticism. I would love a but more due diligence. What specific tires were on the car? What mode was the PTM in? Alignment? I always love watching a car get thrashed, but the details are important.
C7 grandsport is the sweet setup for that generation. C8 midengine brings the chassis capability up to handle the extra power
That understeer vibration is PAIN.
Big stagger, long wheelbase and tight turns = no bueno
@@TheSlipAngle Which part of limerock is this?
I'd be awesome to see you review the C7 Grandsport, I'd like to hear your take on it. Other reviews have stated it is the best balanced package for a C7. Stock engine but Z06 Suspension and body.
That would be fun!
The editing is phenomenal 👌🏽
Thank You!
Gotta try a C8 there now!
We took one to VIR recently, all stock no track alignment. Impressive car, you can feel the mid engine… and electronic things helping it too. Honestly felt very tame for the power, more chassis than power.
A mildly prepped C5 Z06 with tires is significantly more fun though :)
I watched a C5 Z06 beating up on built GTR’s and a full race car Lancer Evo 10. Every lap they would pass the Z06 on the straight but when they came around again the Z06 was back in the lead. I spoke to the guy and he said he could dive much deeper into the turns than the GTR’s. All he had was headers, exhaust and tune for the engine, and an aftermarket leaf spring with bilstein shocks with slicks for the rest.
Awesome video. Gotta look up what Randy Pobst had to say about it. From what I remember he thought it was too much to handle as it reached the end of the spectrum for a FR vehicle’s power vs grip.
I'd agree with Mr. Pobst on that one
I used to have a black one in 7spd right here in CT too. Almost killed myself twice on the highway with the summer tires in the winter. Thankfully, both the car and I was fine. Just facing the wrong direction when it was all over LOL
I'd like to see Quinn behind the wheel of a gt350 in the future!
I'd like that too! ;)
The tires will make a huge difference on the front end steering. I had the all seasons on, big difference compared to a summer only.
Oof! Compared to the other cars it gathers soo much speed, so quickly in those shallow chichanes at the start of each lap.
Time to see if the FD can get close with proper tires? Stop keeping that beauty away from us!
Hopefully it will make a return this summer lol
It was fun to watch you beat up the automatic zo6 , I did not know how fun she can be ...lol
Confirms what I already thought, the C7 z06 is to much for the track unless very big and wide open, the C7 Grandsports is 100% the sweet spot for this gen, you literally sounded winded from driving the thing. Thanks for the review
I agree but its worth pointing out this isn’t a real ‘track’, its a small paved autocross area.
@@jska413 I'd consider it more than an autocross area but I do see your point.
Glad you liked it. Thank you for watching!
@@jska413 This track is the most fun autocross track I've personally been to. Most autocross with cones don't have elevation changes anything close the this track.
@@chisquare5701 oh, I agree! I’ve been on it many times. Just don’t think you can compare it to a proper track when referencing a cars capabilities. There are no straightaways, it’s generally low speed, etc.
Sounds like ignition cut traction control every time you give it throttle mid corner.
Yup, that's what it felt like!
@@TheSlipAngle i bet it was stability control. you need to turn off stability control along with traction control in all chevys if you want 100% freedom when is comes to sliding. just turning off traction control only really allows you to do burns out. it leaves stabilitrac on save you if it steps out too far.
Rich why the slush box gotta shift them gears 😛
Just imagine with the right tires n suspension parts 👌
First😃. That machine looks like a blast to drive. Awesome video
It was! Thank you!
Would be nice to see u drive one with good tires. Good video tho !
He's going to bring it back this season with his Pilot Sport Cups
Whats the chassis like Quinn, have heard these are quick but quite spikey/unpredictable to drive?
If you watch the last couple hot laps you can see it get's snappy as I near the limit. It does not have very progressive breakaway. It's still a point and shoot car vs one you can grab by the scruff and dance with at the limit.
@@TheSlipAngle Get the sense many new cars are like this.Drove the new supra recently, didn't feel that great really. the speed is there, not particularly involving though, not enough feel to drive at 10/10ths, but good gt car
i've never practiced, only theorized it, but would you be able to rotate better on your turn if you double-pedaled the gas? lose down force, re-apply downforce? Just to get the rear rotating to assist the late apexing and trail braking?
You can use abrupt throttle to transfer weight but I prefer coming in hard on brakes with a little flick to get it rotating, then feed in throttle to maintain. The fronts were overheated from the hot laps and that's why I was struggling to get it to slide after that. Morning session on cool tires it was really an issue.
Awesome review man. I'll bring it back out with some track tires this year and see if we can get into the 36's
It definitely will! Thank you again for bringing your car out buddy! Let's go ride motorcycles this summer :)
@@TheSlipAngle absolutely. I need to practice my wheelies
C7 z06 is insane. Way too much power for me 😂 Never tested one, but I have of c5 z06.. much slower and too much for the canyon drives i drive.. i would die 😂
If that thing had a square wheel package, more negative front camber and 0 treadwears it'd be one of the fastest cars for sure, probably always holding the top of the list
You have to "double click" the center button while in track mode to take off all the "nannies". It's a GM thing.
Good video keep it up 👍
Appreciate it!
Can you test out a stock and modded C5 and C6 Corvette for comparison's sake? I hear that Corvettes have brutish driving dynamics compared to other sports cars, I would like to see if you can test one to see if suspension tuning can get rid of those less desirable dynamics out.
I owned a C5Z for a while. It drove even worse. They are all brutish / not very balanced at the limit. The later years just tone it down a little vs earlier years.
That's very interesting, I'll need to drive all of them at some point.
Why would anyone put all season on a z06
Try going out in the rain and driving hard without them lol
@@Flod_01 the thing is all season wouldn’t grip well in dry, which kinda takes away the fun for such a car
They were fast enough to set the record out of everything else we tested though lol
@@TheSlipAngle yeah just wish that this car would have some track semi slick to fully unleash the potential of this car
@@itchyonion3559 bringing it back out this year with them 👍🏼
He should’ve showed off his new pair of new balances. Just kidding it’s a one sweet ride for Sunday. I guess I prefer slow car fast over something like that.
By the way thanks Rich for letting Quinn drive your baby!
@@TexasVexes I'd trust him driving anything
So the auto trans sucks for track use... also, there is a process to turn all the nannies off. Curious how a manual C7 Z51 would be in comparison
Handling would be close to the same
In case you all didn’t know the c7 z06 is the 2nd best on a skidpad compared to every production car ever. Look up top 100 grip kings. So the c8 z06 claims it’s will pull a 1.2 on the skidpad. After testing the best result on the c8 z07 is a 1.6 which is impressive but the c7 z06 still has it beat with a 1.19.
The car was in ptm race mode so the traction wasn’t fully off
Race mode in PTM is the last mode to select and everything off. There is no “track” or anything after that. It’s already in Track mode before entering the PTM modes. Please correct me if I’m misinformed so I know for next time, but this is what I gathered from the manual when I bought the car
@@Flod_01 I think the ptm mode is double click on the tc button and then you can select sports 1 sports 2 race etc but if I remember it correctly it doesn’t fully disable the nannies. If you want everything off you need to hold the tc button for 6 seconds. I didn’t have the same car but I think it is the same on Camaro.
@@itchyonion3559 oh, yeah that’s not how this one works. If you were to hold the TC button, it just exits out of the PTM modes and turns it back on. The corvette is just set to track mode, trouble tap to enter PTM, then scroll over to Race. That’s everything off according to the manual. If there is something else electronically intervening still at that point, I don’t have the ability to further turn it off, but it shouldn’t be
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This also explains it
I bet that thing could hit 100mph on that little track with the right tire!
Agreed!
Those tires HATE ALL OF IT.
Are tires ever happy though? lol
@@TheSlipAngle HOOSIERS, BRROOOOOO!
You said “I don’t know the horsepower”, it’s on a placard right in front of you, man.
I just hopped into the car and went right out on track lol. No time for reading plaques in the car :)
I wonder how people do that on a manual? 😅 Can’t figure out the sliding part where car is turned to the right, but wheel is 180 degrees left. 😂
Impressive my guy
i wood nt use gloves..weeekens the hand strength!!!
Deff not the factory tires and/or not aligned properly. Most people who own these cars are not at all clued into setting them up. My ZL1 1LE is a pig compared to the Z06 and it doesn't suffer from that type of understeer at all. But these are serious cars, they don't really play. Least as much as I can tell
This track is tight and favors small wheelbase cars. A bigger car, with a big stagger needs serious bite in the front to get through slow diggy corners.
That track is too small for that car
Probably, but it's the venue we have access to.
@@TheSlipAngle oh for sure , not a criticism just an observation, love you guys , this car is not in keeping with the , by comparison low horse power great handling cars you usually do , I love seeing the variety, this car absolutely needs bigger wider spaces to open it up and let it express itself, its a shark in a fish tank
Undasteer all day
yup
Sounds like a horror movie
If a car hits the rev limiter cause you shift to late. And you do it again and again who's fault is that? I raced a a8 car competitively and cannot wrap my head around how people can't figure out to hit the paddle a little sooner. You can get it to shift at redline every time very easy. Also I've never seen anyone go truly fast by over heating tires so much. Why are you plowing through so hard? It's okay to have some noise coming from tires but you're putting so much heat in the front your probably a full second off what that cars capable of. The car doesn't understeer you under steer.
Seeing that I'd never driven with a gearbox like this it's not intuitive to assume you need to account for a delay in the time you hit the paddle to the time the transmission actually executes the shift. This tight diggy corner track really puts a lot of load on the fronts and if they are not up to the task like the stock run-flats that were on this car, they are going to over heat. Noise is irrelevant as every tire emits different levels of noise based on the compound. With a big stagger, stock alignment, these cars are setup to understeer so knuckleheads don't spin out and hop curbs. Whatever was going on with the power delivery wasn't helping either. Whether that was traction control or something going on with the ECU, it was not delivering power when I was asking for it. Thank you for watching and for your valuable insight. Cheers
Just ran across this video. Painful to watch!