Tier one is trash and in my opinion it is actively damaging the project. I swear that if the first one was the gunner and then second was Baroness and third had been Raven then we would already have Baroness unlocked and would be working on the final tier. A huge ass miss step that stinks of upper management interference.
Also, buying the Sail Barge was an “experience.”. We got behind the scenes, a surprise book, and constant updates. Everything else since has just been cogs in a machine.
@@groorg24 I’d argue galactus is a dream item. It really is big as shit. And came with some cool add ons it was just exactly what I wanted a haslab to be. Not whatever the shit we are getting now is.
@@aliteralchad7128 You obviously didn't buy the barge, you miss the point completely. The Galactus is great I'm sure but again instead of backing Galactus and then a year later getting that "Hey remember that thing you ordered?" email, the Sail Barge was a process of involvement. Buyers were along for the entire ride. We saw drafts of the box art, we saw them make the box art, it was...fun! People who didn't back it, will never know. Everything since has been low effort.
Other than the patches, which absolutely sucks, its a great haslab with really good figures. I have yet to hear one video praising the patches. On the contrary, everyone is criticizing them and rightfully so. The backlash has reached the ears of the Joe team. They wont include patches again. P.s. if they changed the haslab to something other than the Rattler people would be vey upset because thats what they were expecting
@@twoquestionmarksthe baroness has always been heavily associated with the rattler in the comics and the cartoon. It is her vehicle of choice. it makes total sense for her to come with the rattler and most people wanted and expected her to come with it in her blue flight suit
100% agreed on every point here. Hasbro is trying to make a mediocre effort look like a high end power stunt with these Haslabs. They knew full well that the consumers knew too much about the Rattler coming. Yet, they follow up with a patch tier instead of a forth figure to impress the masses? C’mon, they knew this would get back lash…to save a twenty five dollar jump in price? It’s already over the $300 mark. A forth figure or a function feature tier was in order. I feel like this Haslab lowered a standard and they really wanted us to swallow it with a smile.
Speaking of the USS Flagg, they really should do a Haslab remake of the vintage 1/18 scale for O-Ring figures. It's probably one of the few actual "dream" projects left for a nostalgic and aging fan base. It's easy money for them, even at a $800+ price range.
The fanbase is too split and now 6-inch is getting the attention form both Hasbro and fans. Hasbro had to throw in 3 free Cobra figures to get the Haslab Sky Striker remake a push. It was supposed to be start a line of ARAH remakes but they fizzled after 3 two packs. Now they do a few Transformers crossovers and gave 3 3 /4" to Super Seven. Super Seven's mother ship failed, too. Hasbro just wouldn't bother with a FLAGG remake. The money is in 6 inch now.
@@blissfairchild7194 True, but that's almost everything now, though. It was said the GI JOE Hasbro team was told there was one GI JOE budget and it would have to be split with 3 3/4" and 6 inch and since Classified does so well, 3 3/4" got cut. The Transformers crossovers come out of the transformer budget it seems.
Let us not forget the Legacy Collection Millennium Falcon from 2008, that thing was over 3 foot long, and retailed for $170 at the time, loaded with features, and sold at retail.
@@Christolclear101 and when they rereleased it a couple of years ago, was the price $170? Hell no. $399. Comparing prices that are 16 years apart doesn’t make much sense.
@@shawnforrester1610 only thing you accomplished was demonstrating how money hungry Hasbro has really gotten between then and now. Congratulations. 🎈🎉🎊
@@Christolclear101 you do realize that prices go up right? Cars are more expensive than 2008. So are groceries. Is it greed? Maybe. But last I checked most folks don’t work for free and businesses aren’t a charity. Wake up. Toys are not a need item. Just a luxury want. Buy it or not. But the price comparison from 2008 is juvenile at best.
@@shawnforrester1610 You’re correct about one thing: toys are a luxury item. Either you buy it or you don’t. Where I call it greed would be when in less than a 2 year period, we get 3 price hikes with little to no explanation. I believe the 2008 price comparison, as far as what you got then versus now with most products Hasbro has released, is still a fair comparison. Back then, we could get a super articulated 3.75 inch Star Wars or GI Joe figure, depending on where you shopped at, between the $4.99 to $6.99 price point. Nowadays, $9.99 barely gets you a basic 5 POA Star Wars figure, and $14.99 for either one that’s super articulated, and these are the exact same figures, same molds being used now as then. A price increase, I would expect, but not as much as 2-3 times for the exact same figure.
I couldn't agree more with your take on Haslabs. They need to go back to being DREAM projects not standard vehicles that could be pre ordered. I'm glad to see Marvel Legends has gone to the pre order model but I have no doubt that's far more because the last couple have failed or scrapped by than because they want to give more to their customers
I'm still waiting on my Dragonfly makes zero sense to charge me for another Haslab when I haven't gotten the one I paid for yet. Oh that's right their making it perfect. Then what the hell were they doing for a whole year!?!?!?
Yeah, but if they released it and parts broke you'd also be crying about that. I'd rather wait a little longer for something that they deemed inferior to be fixed.
I totally agree. If they had just put this up as a made-to-order pre-order with just Wild Weasel for like $200 on Hasbro Pulse, they would've received more orders on day one than they did now.
Just like the HISS, this over-priced Rattler should be in stores; on these Empty AF shelves (so empty I could lay down on them & not touch A toy) for $149.99 w/ Driver figure tops! > They're both Haslab *"Dream Projects" mid-size vehicles,* from an in-house brand- via A Billion dollar corporation (as in corpse). WtF !?
@@floorboss That's right. Who do these companies think they are trying to kid? (retailers and manufacturers) Over the decades we've seen bigger and more expensive toys on the shelve. These GI Joe classified behicles belong on store shelves.
I agree the funding of the Rattler (and every previous GI Joe Haslab) has proven that they would have sold at retail, so no crowd funding needed. I find it somewhat tacky that the biggest toy company in the world needs a crowd funder... The patch tier is pathetic. $5 worth of patches is the GI Joe team's first mis-step.
I'll restate it here. Those patches are a slap in the face. Also, have they addressed that the gunner is stationary but the turret goes 360 degrees? I hope its a mistake that isn’t going into production.
Someone Pointed out that she is wearing a retro outfit from the comics. So its a new sculpt and you know Hasbro will want to reuse it. So Much like CC, I believe there will be a true retro Baroness down the road. Maybe it won't wave all 3 hair styles or whatever but I bet there will be a figure in the future.
That exclusive Baroness Fig is A Smoke-show! Hips & Heels, its the First CLASSIFIED figure w/ golden arches. > Outside of her, its an easy pass. _The Rattler_ is Overpriced & it has No Display value, outside of hanging it from the ceeling w/ dental floss; like im 10yrs old (unless your into plane maintenance fig photigraphy that is).
I hate the idea of Haslabs. Never backed one. I’m just not that deep when it comes to collecting. I like to just be able to go into a store and just buy something I like. I’m not even really into preordering. So the fact that I front a company that much money and wait for 1-2 years to get my product is insane. My luck I die before I get it. I’m just saying things in life happen in those 1-2 years. These can easily hit stores.
Crowd funding should not be used for anything under 500 bucks. Soul of Chogokin can sell $300 figures without a crowd fund, so can a billion dollar company.
I agree with everything you said. However if Haslab put up the GI Joe stirp club with poles, lights, speakers and all the female joes/cobras with fully removable clothing I know you will take the Tier with the cap and three patches and love it😁😆
I want it. I really want it. But let's be honest here. It's not a toy it's a wall /ceiling hanger, and the tiers are pure BULLSHIT! So, as of yet, I have not backed it.
I would have expected the Rattler to come in way higher than 325. Especially after seeing what is all included. The patches were a mistake, it was either no tier or a lame tier for 325 or up the base price. Either way whatever fourth figure they may have included will be available later on. People getting so bent out about these patches is just ridiculous.
It's the first time in classified history they replaced a figure or accessoru for the item, with something not even functional with the item no figure no rockets or accessories just patches 🤣 I think that's what people are upset about and hey if they don't voice they are upset next time to save even more money Hasbro will include a t shirt or a coffee mug lol
I'm getting it but that first Tier is awful. Lenny stated that the reason they did the patches is to keep prices down. I think they could have done something else.
Forget the patch tier, it's hilariously out of proportion with the A10 on which it's based and I'm vicariously embarrassed for the backers. The poor Cobra pilot looks like an adult man sitting on one of those springy toy car things they used to have outside of supermarkets.
@@TheJofurr I have been a fan of the A10 for 30 years, studied them, and seen them up close (including the cockpit). The span has always only ever been slightly longer than the length of the aircraft. The Haslab span is slightly less than the length; hardly a crime and very likely done for space/balance concerns. It's pedantic to think anyone would be offended by it.
Anyone remember the way Hasbro delayed the Haslab Sentinel with the defective knee until after Galactus funded ??? So , what's defective or not as advertised on the Dragonfly ? This scummy company has me looking for the exit on ALL my favorite 80's franchises , and in general has soured my taste for collecting . In addition I've greatly reduced my purchases in the last 3 or so years , starting with the plastic free packaging debacle , as a direct result of Hasbro's shady business practices and total lack of BUSINESS ETHICS .
My own personal opinion is, we are all blind consumers with these figures & vehicles. I ended up ordering a figure that's was $31.99 plus $8 shipping. Where is the value on that? But like you said brother, "if you have it, get it". All companies are crooks. I honestly only feel bad for the ppl that can't afford these action figures. There's no going backwards anymore like the good old days $8-$10 dollar figures.
Us marvel legends collectors are like five years too over this shit to back stuff like this anymore. They are new giving us figures they swore they won’t and stopping haslabs altogether classified is a new thing give it a couple years and they might give a shit what you guys think
Don’t do my girl Dory like that! 😂😂😂 Heck, Chap Mei gave us a gigantic C-130 cargo plane with lights, sounds, figures and accessories for $80. Those patches are a sad, sad tier. The Rattler is impressive and looks great, but they robbing us, and we’ll let um. Lastly, am I wrong for thinking that Pilot Baroness is the best part of it? 😂😍😘
The USS Flagg could easily be made for $50. It is made of mostly flat pieces that can easily be put together. It is very cheap and easy. Do not accept Hasbro's nonsense.
Unrelated but similar, I have an HP Printer, I needed new color ink cartridges to print in black and white. Either I could fork out $100 for new cartridges that are just going to dry up on me because I don’t print much, or I can pay HP $5 for their ink subscription service. I singed up not because it was the better value, but because the huge corporation had me by the balls.
if McFarlane made this it definitely a gold label and retail release instead of crowdfunding haslab. as much i don't like McFarlane figure since it always batman and a hit or miss design at least the vehicle was a retail and not a crowdfunding stuff like haslab
@@shawnforrester1610 just a vehicle with normal retail release and not overpriced crowdfunding where you get a patches as if its a pointless participate award medal
Those patches suck! Screw a command center, do the Cobra Terrordrome! or the U.S.S. Flag! It can be done, Super 7 did the Thundercats Lair and that's for 6 inch figures and charged what, $500 I think. They can do a big playset, get it done!
The fact that the patches contribute nothing to this major purchase I'm making, yet inflates the cost, blows my mind. Yes, I'm going to be one of the rubes who allows this to happen. But I won't do it quietly and I hope Hasbro listens because while this may have saved them cost, its costing them in my trust in the value of Haslab projects.
People are the problem.People create the problem.People refuse to address the problem. This is what every company is doing now offering less and lower quality products for an inflated price
I just realized the other day I can't collect toys anymore. I've been priced out buy rent, food, and necessities. I'm probably going to have to unsubscribe so I don't get tempted. The government and the companies did this.
All facts. I think collectors who collect many lines see through the nonsense and it's really easy to see a person that just buys one line, I've talked to people in the last week that think vehicles being Haslabs are reasonable even though I pointed out Transformers release two foot tall Transformers every year at retail, they've got no response.
@@ArticulatedNinja haha all good here man, enjoying the videos you're putting out. Keep calling this stuff out! Did you see that Marvel Legends look like they're putting Haslabs on ice?
The big difference between the Rattler and the HISS is that all the accessories are included with the Rattler, with the HISS you had to unlock them and they where kinda dumb unlocks, a canopy, missiles with no effects, actually no weapon effects.
I don’t know about you, but for me blast effects go away in a drawer, never to be seen again. That’s a kinda’ worthless thing to keep adding to these as if they add value. Ditto lights.
@@namelessjedi2242the lights make it for me, blast effects are nice to have if you do photos or diorama displays, so I’m happy to have them. Neither actually justifies the cost though.
Great video Ninja, I really enjoyed hearing your take on the Cobra Rattler . I agree with you 100% this should have been just a pre-order not a Haslab. I never back a Haslab because i seen what they have done in the past with playsets and vehicles. !
They made toys like this in the 80s and 90s and sold them in a store for half the price of this and most had lights and sounds. Im done with haslab this was all i was waiting for
It would be foolish for people to purchase something even while still believing it to be over priced. Remember, other companies can produce cool military style 1:12 toy vehicles with equal or better details for less money.
I never thought I'd ever back a Haslab strictly because price, but when i saw this for 329 i got my credit card out immediately!...then put it back away when i saw the patches. 😢
How do you "downsize" a FLAGG when one jet is 3 feet? That's a Cobra Jet, the Skystriker is much bigger. It's simply not practical and the cost just to ship it would be triple figures.
The royal starship went to clearance. If Hasbro had the ability to gauge interest then and know exactly how many to make with zero risk they would have.
Brother! I had a B52 for 3.75" scale figures my dad got me while he was still in the army. It was bigger than me. My mother literally hung it from the ceiling in our bedroom. Mainly because it was so big, that was the only way to put it away.
Aye brotha hope everyone has a bless day it looks dope but no space much respect who gets the rattler im mostly looking forward for the new figures they been showing off stay bless💪☝🙏
First thought that came to mind when that first tier was announced: "Patches?!?! We don't need no steenking patches?1?1". Apart from that, agree with you 100% Ninja. They've realised how far they can go and they're going to keep poking the bear (customers) until the bear gets fed up and takes a swipe. It's actually in their best interest for the project to fund, but not hit all the tiers. That way they can get money for stuff they never have to produce...
Man I really want this but those patches .. why not a dude that loads the misses up with a little missile cart, would have been soo cool I do think it's beautiful and those 3 figures are dope. I still might get if if everything unlocks
Another great video my friend. Honestly I don't mind the patches. I always say that the value of the Haslab should all be in the initial baseoffering and the tiers should purely just be little thank you bonuses. With that in mind this definitely constitutes a (Very) little bonus. Keep up the great work man.
The reason why these things are still stuck behind Hasbro's HasLab is because people keep paying Hasbro to do this. Stop paying Hasbro for this nonsense. If Hasbro decides they don't want to make these things any more then other companies are more than capable of filling the void. Stop giving Hasbro money. Hasbro will change or someone else will do it and do it better.
Thanks for your video Ninja. I mentioned this on Chad's latest post and I don't mind repeating myself on yours. Hasbro should change their slogan to: "Ignorant people making ignorant decisions". I get the feeling that Hasbro is regretting making the Haslab an annual campaign. They just don't have the vision required.
Patches! Patches!!! We don’t need no stinkin patches!!! I’m a nobody but here’s a couple examples of tiers I can come up with in seconds….. Ejection seat with wired parachute. Missiles with flame and smoke effects. (Could also be incorporated into a accessory kit for other vehicles and artillery) Interchangeable battle damage panels and components. You’re welcome Hasbro.
The only thing that’s burning me up is being asked to pay for another product before you have the last one in hand. It’s America, I expect companies to cut every corner they can.
Once again I wish your voice was also in the transformers space as well calling out these haslabs. Hasbro is also doing the same thing with thier transformer haslab as they are doing with this rattler. The latest one was Omega Prime which was sold for $249 and is basically two commander class figures, one deluxe figure and accessories. I was instgram and youtube going no that should not be a haslab. especially when i think the omega prime is either slightly shorter or taller than the original (sorry i forget which). the shill did not like what i had to say. I even called one youtuber a shill. All he could say is ""I know why hasbro does not release more than two commander classes." I was like wtf??? Its a massive company with its own online store. They can sell it without being a haslab. And Omega Prime also has other colors that it came in to. Hasbro is doing this with its I guess its two most poplar brands. Haslab sure things.
@@MayumiC-chan9377 that's awesome he has a supportive wife , tell him to check out "ramen toys armored vehicles" line they are dropping tanks and armored cars. As well as valaverse's vanguard vehicle.
@@ArticulatedNinja actually my husband started building our own! my husband is a veteran of the SANDF so making 1/12 3d printed models of Nato armor is his forte. My husband’s appearance looks like Sergeant Stalker so he kitbashed the classified stalker to look like himself when he was in the DRC and Botswana. i love the Joytoy 1/12 female clothed figures and i love realism in designs too like my husband. I kitbashed many classified female figures to look like actual military women of Japan and Korean instead of stereotypical Kunoichi. We love Gridiron 1/12 equipment customs that have more realistic 1/12 military weapons and equipment. I support my husband because he supports my Otaku collection and cosplay. life is fun and like my husband says “everyone deserves a hobby to make themselves happy and i miss those childhood memories of Gi joe action figures and only care i had was summer coming to an end”. My husband was a 1980/90s kid and growing up on Air Force bases his father fed hismgi joe collection because it was a hobby they both enjoyed and i can see it in my husband and our son.
I’ll never back this shit because specifically those patches it put such a bad taste in my mouth it made me question even collecting classified. It is unreal to me that they had the balls to do that. I hate action figure collectors for just enforcing this scummy behavior
The patches as a tier is worthless !!! I'm backing it to get the Rattler !!! But your right they could have mass produced it for a mass market release !!!
Thank you newman for being a backer and still understanding my position I appreciate it 🙏🏽 I agree with you get it while you can so you don't have to pay 3x the price for it later
Patches? Hasbro is selling a toy ariplane and a couple of action figures and they include PATCHES?! We don't want no stinkin' PATCHES! (Hasbro is so disgusting that my grammar is ruined!)
Some good points raised but in fairness I think a few things were missed in this analysis. Firstly, it's not apples to apples to measure the Rattler by the Naboo starship. Not only was the market different then, but Star Wars as a property was white hot. Comparatively, GI Joe hasn't really been relevant for decades. To expand on that, look at the difference between the two properties now: three successful campaigns for Joe with nothing even being attempted for Star Wars despite the interest from collectors. Second, each Joe HasLab has been a milestone. It's easy to look back at the HISS and Dragonfly and say they would have worked with a different format but to a significant if not majority collector population the HISS WAS a "dream project". The HISS established that 1/12 scale Joe vehicles were not only viable but highly desired and wildly successful. The Dragonfly showed that the HISS wasn't a one-off and that vehicles that have a larger footprint could also work. Now the Rattler is showing that even larger vehicles are viable. Finally, while I'll stipulate that the patches aren't the best or even necessarily a good choice, it's arguably forgivable if one takes into account the sheer amount of extras that come in the base package: damage panels, weapon effects, and additional weapons. It's worth bearing in mind that on the HISS the alternate parts and extra weapons were tiers. Here, we get everything up front. Finally it should be said that just on the base package, to get a GOOD-looking 1/12 Rattler for the price being asked is a legit deal. For someone that justifiably rags on products for excessive pricing, honesty and integrity should have gotten the Rattler some kudos for that alone.
@@michaelennis9040 I never complained about the price so I def. Didn't " rag" on the price or not give them kudos I did , also I never say it was apples to apples in short These vehicles would do fine with the crowdfunding model with patches lol that's all.
I actually didn't say you ragged on the price. I just mentioned that you rag on prices in general, by which I mean you call out unreasonable pricing like with the Ghost Rider project. That's one where I agreed with you pretty much 100%. At the end of the day I do agree that the patches as a tier are an error, but imo it's a forgivable one in light of how good the base product is. Cheers.
Two big cobra logo parachutes would have been better than patches if they wanted to give us a cheap tier... at least they could be used with the damn plane!
The other fact I think is really shady on Hasbros part is that on both the previous has lab projects nether of them have been the measurements as they were originally advertised. they change the dimensions and make them smaller by 2 or 4 inches after the thing is bought and paid for. the fact they did that on the hiss and dragonfly and never even acknowledged it makes me feel like its on purpose to make even more money
Articulated Ninja brother I like how u always keep it 💯 and u not shy or scared to speak your mind and keeping it real u said everthing I had on my mind when I seen this Haslab 😂no disrespect to who want this but am not gonna get it
Large company crowdfunding has never sat right with me. Couldn't bring myself to go along with it, feel like an idiot. Also good on you for calling out other youtubers that shill and follow the hype train, they hurt the hobby.
Never understood the Haslab idea especially as Hasbro already has a online store with Hasbro Pulse where they could put these projects on. Both Valaverse & Ramen Toys have shown that 1/12 vehicles do not have to be crowdfunded instead just pre-ordered like any other figure.
Thank you ninja. Finally someone else calls out that the first unlocked tier is those stupid patches. And that's the only thing you get in that tier. Not an extra figure, not blast effects, not even the patches with say a set of stickers to go on the plane.
100% agreed, and I mentioned on my video. Hasbro knew what they are doing here, they knew people will going to buy the Rattler and they took the opportunity to save money by throwing those patches. Shame on Hasbroooooioooo!!!
Next project, they gonna give us red, white, and blue zippers and buttons. Or maybe three 12 x 12 magnets (a cobra, a Gijoe, and a Hasbro one) for you to put the on you car.
This is the first HasLab I've participated in, only reason I did it was because I reeeeeally want Wild Weasel. But otherwise, $325 for a giant plastic airplane (no matter how cool it looks) would have probly been a non-starter. It's likely the only time I will do this; Hasbro's marketing strategies are starting to wear thin with me. You make so many good valid points in this discussion. 👏🏻
I totally agree on the Haslab situation. The rattler looks beautiful, and I love the A-10 in general. I WILL NOT support a company this size crowdfunding. I’ve got 3 Stingers on pre-order, and would have pre-ordered this, if it wasn’t a Haslab.
The thing that really bothers me about the Rattler is I never wanted to see Wild Weasel's face. I had a specific image in my mind. Like reading a book then seeing a movie goofs with it. Wasn't even close.
Hasbro did a big mass market ship as late as 2019 with the galaxy’s edge BMF which was supposed to be a Disney parks exclusive but went to mass market because it didn’t sell in the parks. (I can see why, shipping it out of there would have been hell!)
BTW I also had the naboo cruiser! 90’s kids had unreal toys. Seeing it again makes me think my ultimate dream haslab: the X-men’s blackbird- would be 100% possible.
On a related note, Kudos to the Marvel Legends team for NOT doing a Haslab. Wait a second, where did the Big Mac from 1974 come from? a time capsule? Never go full Classified.
I’m not going to hold you as someone who’s backed all the Gi Joe haslab minus the 1:18 scale stuff those patches don’t sit right with me. I thought the first haslab was a bit overprice but since it was the first I wanted to get something that wasn’t available in mass market. The dragon fly was a solid offering that I have no issues with. I won’t lie I’m going to be backing the rattler because I think it’s cool. If they do some fucj shit on the next haslab I’ll be done with the line
They'll probably include a pair of skidmarked undies and call them cobra commanders "retreating drawers"
🤣🤣🤣 I ll buy em
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Tier one is trash and in my opinion it is actively damaging the project. I swear that if the first one was the gunner and then second was Baroness and third had been Raven then we would already have Baroness unlocked and would be working on the final tier. A huge ass miss step that stinks of upper management interference.
Also, buying the Sail Barge was an “experience.”. We got behind the scenes, a surprise book, and constant updates. Everything else since has just been cogs in a machine.
Very very true groorg it was overall way better.
@@groorg24 I’d argue galactus is a dream item. It really is big as shit. And came with some cool add ons it was just exactly what I wanted a haslab to be. Not whatever the shit we are getting now is.
@@aliteralchad7128 You obviously didn't buy the barge, you miss the point completely. The Galactus is great I'm sure but again instead of backing Galactus and then a year later getting that "Hey remember that thing you ordered?" email, the Sail Barge was a process of involvement. Buyers were along for the entire ride. We saw drafts of the box art, we saw them make the box art, it was...fun! People who didn't back it, will never know. Everything since has been low effort.
@@groorg24 you say that but to be completely honest it looked like the proton pack was just as involved
@@aliteralchad7128 I bought that too and it looks like you're literally just looking for someone to argue with, I'm not your guy.
Other than the patches, which absolutely sucks, its a great haslab with really good figures. I have yet to hear one video praising the patches. On the contrary, everyone is criticizing them and rightfully so. The backlash has reached the ears of the Joe team. They wont include patches again.
P.s. if they changed the haslab to something other than the Rattler people would be vey upset because thats what they were expecting
The patches were an insult to fans. I guess the majority of fans aren’t bothered by this
And another Baroness isnt?
@@twoquestionmarksthe baroness has always been heavily associated with the rattler in the comics and the cartoon. It is her vehicle of choice. it makes total sense for her to come with the rattler and most people wanted and expected her to come with it in her blue flight suit
People forget that a sticker shit was a tier with the hiss
100% agreed on every point here. Hasbro is trying to make a mediocre effort look like a high end power stunt with these Haslabs. They knew full well that the consumers knew too much about the Rattler coming. Yet, they follow up with a patch tier instead of a forth figure to impress the masses? C’mon, they knew this would get back lash…to save a twenty five dollar jump in price? It’s already over the $300 mark. A forth figure or a function feature tier was in order. I feel like this Haslab lowered a standard and they really wanted us to swallow it with a smile.
imagine if the tiers were hidden still and the first tier had been revealed as patches, the fans would have lost it.
🤣 true they would of even worse then now
I believe this is the first Classified HasLab that doesn't offer 4 figures.
Smh true jc it definitely is I think it's the first from any action figure based haslab
@@ArticulatedNinjaGiant Man.
Patch killed it…type disrespectful…the price was justified because of the figure count…what the hell am I going to do with patches ?
@@MoClectic You are to display it or wear it.
It's also the most complicated Joe vehicle they made yet
Speaking of the USS Flagg, they really should do a Haslab remake of the vintage 1/18 scale for O-Ring figures. It's probably one of the few actual "dream" projects left for a nostalgic and aging fan base. It's easy money for them, even at a $800+ price range.
The fanbase is too split and now 6-inch is getting the attention form both Hasbro and fans. Hasbro had to throw in 3 free Cobra figures to get the Haslab Sky Striker remake a push. It was supposed to be start a line of ARAH remakes but they fizzled after 3 two packs. Now they do a few Transformers crossovers and gave 3 3 /4" to Super Seven. Super Seven's mother ship failed, too. Hasbro just wouldn't bother with a FLAGG remake. The money is in 6 inch now.
@@scockery their o-ring line fizzled not because of lack of fans, but because they wanted RIDICULOUS PRICES for them!
@@blissfairchild7194 True, but that's almost everything now, though. It was said the GI JOE Hasbro team was told there was one GI JOE budget and it would have to be split with 3 3/4" and 6 inch and since Classified does so well, 3 3/4" got cut.
The Transformers crossovers come out of the transformer budget it seems.
“ Don’t ask questions… just consume product “ DEEP!!!!
Let us not forget the Legacy Collection Millennium Falcon from 2008, that thing was over 3 foot long, and retailed for $170 at the time, loaded with features, and sold at retail.
Facts christo all facts 🔥
@@Christolclear101 and when they rereleased it a couple of years ago, was the price $170? Hell no. $399. Comparing prices that are 16 years apart doesn’t make much sense.
@@shawnforrester1610 only thing you accomplished was demonstrating how money hungry Hasbro has really gotten between then and now. Congratulations. 🎈🎉🎊
@@Christolclear101 you do realize that prices go up right? Cars are more expensive than 2008. So are groceries. Is it greed? Maybe. But last I checked most folks don’t work for free and businesses aren’t a charity. Wake up. Toys are not a need item. Just a luxury want. Buy it or not. But the price comparison from 2008 is juvenile at best.
@@shawnforrester1610 You’re correct about one thing: toys are a luxury item. Either you buy it or you don’t. Where I call it greed would be when in less than a 2 year period, we get 3 price hikes with little to no explanation. I believe the 2008 price comparison, as far as what you got then versus now with most products Hasbro has released, is still a fair comparison. Back then, we could get a super articulated 3.75 inch Star Wars or GI Joe figure, depending on where you shopped at, between the $4.99 to $6.99 price point. Nowadays, $9.99 barely gets you a basic 5 POA Star Wars figure, and $14.99 for either one that’s super articulated, and these are the exact same figures, same molds being used now as then. A price increase, I would expect, but not as much as 2-3 times for the exact same figure.
So that you know: I backed the Rattler solely for the patches! In fact when I receive the Rattler I'm gonna sell it to buy more patches!
I couldn't agree more with your take on Haslabs. They need to go back to being DREAM projects not standard vehicles that could be pre ordered. I'm glad to see Marvel Legends has gone to the pre order model but I have no doubt that's far more because the last couple have failed or scrapped by than because they want to give more to their customers
I'm still waiting on my Dragonfly makes zero sense to charge me for another Haslab when I haven't gotten the one I paid for yet. Oh that's right their making it perfect. Then what the hell were they doing for a whole year!?!?!?
It was already perfect in the 80’s. This is not a scale that is friendly for vehicles, and vehicles are essential to GI Joe.
@@namelessjedi2242 nah it's better now at 6 inch.
That’s what she said….
Yeah, but if they released it and parts broke you'd also be crying about that. I'd rather wait a little longer for something that they deemed inferior to be fixed.
@@loveanicefigure soooo your telling me what they couldn't do for a whole year their going to do it in six months?.....ok 🤷🏿♂️
I totally agree. If they had just put this up as a made-to-order pre-order with just Wild Weasel for like $200 on Hasbro Pulse, they would've received more orders on day one than they did now.
This COBRA Rattler needs to be in retail stores.
The price needs to be much lower.
The quality needs to be outstanding.
Put it in the stores already!
Just like the HISS, this over-priced Rattler should be in stores; on these Empty AF shelves (so empty I could lay down on them & not touch A toy) for $149.99 w/ Driver figure tops!
> They're both Haslab *"Dream Projects" mid-size vehicles,* from an in-house brand- via A Billion dollar corporation (as in corpse).
WtF !?
@@floorboss That's right.
Who do these companies think they are trying to kid? (retailers and manufacturers)
Over the decades we've seen bigger and more expensive toys on the shelve.
These GI Joe classified behicles belong on store shelves.
I agree the funding of the Rattler (and every previous GI Joe Haslab) has proven that they would have sold at retail, so no crowd funding needed. I find it somewhat tacky that the biggest toy company in the world needs a crowd funder...
The patch tier is pathetic. $5 worth of patches is the GI Joe team's first mis-step.
I'll restate it here. Those patches are a slap in the face. Also, have they addressed that the gunner is stationary but the turret goes 360 degrees? I hope its a mistake that isn’t going into production.
The fuselage isn't wide enough, this is the compromise
same as in the 80s, no improvement here hein? but it has lights! like Christmas! priorities...
@@btbcc12859Doesn't it have electronics in the display panel too? Wouldn't that make it unable to turn with wiring?
The Baroness is the best part. Unfortunately there's zero chance that Hasbro will reissue just that figure at a lower price.
Someone Pointed out that she is wearing a retro outfit from the comics. So its a new sculpt and you know Hasbro will want to reuse it. So Much like CC, I believe there will be a true retro Baroness down the road. Maybe it won't wave all 3 hair styles or whatever but I bet there will be a figure in the future.
That exclusive Baroness Fig is A Smoke-show! Hips & Heels, its the First CLASSIFIED figure w/ golden arches.
> Outside of her, its an easy pass. _The Rattler_ is Overpriced & it has No Display value, outside of hanging it from the ceeling w/ dental floss; like im 10yrs old (unless your into plane maintenance fig photigraphy that is).
I hate the idea of Haslabs. Never backed one. I’m just not that deep when it comes to collecting. I like to just be able to go into a store and just buy something I like. I’m not even really into preordering. So the fact that I front a company that much money and wait for 1-2 years to get my product is insane. My luck I die before I get it. I’m just saying things in life happen in those 1-2 years. These can easily hit stores.
Hasbro never lets new molds that are supposed to be "exclusive" sit on the shelf after only being used once.
Naw, we dont need another Baroness
Crowd funding should not be used for anything under 500 bucks. Soul of Chogokin can sell $300 figures without a crowd fund, so can a billion dollar company.
I agree with everything you said. However if Haslab put up the GI Joe stirp club with poles, lights, speakers and all the female joes/cobras with fully removable clothing I know you will take the Tier with the cap and three patches and love it😁😆
@@rwallace1492 🤣🤣🤣 yea I'ma have to back that one under an anonymous name for sure Wallace 🤣
I want it. I really want it. But let's be honest here. It's not a toy it's a wall /ceiling hanger, and the tiers are pure BULLSHIT!
So, as of yet, I have not backed it.
Key word is "Yet"!!🤣🤣
I haven't backed it. I did back the Dragonfly.
I would have expected the Rattler to come in way higher than 325. Especially after seeing what is all included. The patches were a mistake, it was either no tier or a lame tier for 325 or up the base price. Either way whatever fourth figure they may have included will be available later on. People getting so bent out about these patches is just ridiculous.
It's the first time in classified history they replaced a figure or accessoru for the item, with something not even functional with the item no figure no rockets or accessories just patches 🤣 I think that's what people are upset about and hey if they don't voice they are upset next time to save even more money Hasbro will include a t shirt or a coffee mug lol
Patches? You mean 27 pieces of flair?
Also, the Marvel Legends Sentinels went on pre-order and were gone faster than I could draw breath!
still the only thing I d invest so much in if you ask me, and now they re gone... idiots!
I'm getting it but that first Tier is awful. Lenny stated that the reason they did the patches is to keep prices down. I think they could have done something else.
Forget the patch tier, it's hilariously out of proportion with the A10 on which it's based and I'm vicariously embarrassed for the backers. The poor Cobra pilot looks like an adult man sitting on one of those springy toy car things they used to have outside of supermarkets.
Very true
Damn this troll almost got me to post a genuine reply. Almost, man.. almost. (PS: Haslab Rattler looks great) OH shoot, you got me bro, you got me.
@@liquididentity101 Google the a10 and rattler and compare before backing. You can thank me later.
@@TheJofurr I have been a fan of the A10 for 30 years, studied them, and seen them up close (including the cockpit). The span has always only ever been slightly longer than the length of the aircraft. The Haslab span is slightly less than the length; hardly a crime and very likely done for space/balance concerns. It's pedantic to think anyone would be offended by it.
@@liquididentity101 Not relative to the pilot!
Anyone remember the way Hasbro delayed the Haslab Sentinel with the defective knee until after Galactus funded ???
So , what's defective or not as advertised on the Dragonfly ?
This scummy company has me looking for the exit on ALL my favorite 80's franchises , and in general has soured my taste for collecting .
In addition I've greatly reduced my purchases in the last 3 or so years , starting with the plastic free packaging debacle , as a direct result of Hasbro's shady business practices and total lack of BUSINESS ETHICS .
Nah a cap as tier would be too generous. Next year they gonna offer stickers or a small poster as a tier 1and people would thank them for it.
My own personal opinion is, we are all blind consumers with these figures & vehicles. I ended up ordering a figure that's was $31.99 plus $8 shipping. Where is the value on that? But like you said brother, "if you have it, get it". All companies are crooks. I honestly only feel bad for the ppl that can't afford these action figures. There's no going backwards anymore like the good old days $8-$10 dollar figures.
Nowadays buying action figures is a luxury to own
Us marvel legends collectors are like five years too over this shit to back stuff like this anymore. They are new giving us figures they swore they won’t and stopping haslabs altogether classified is a new thing give it a couple years and they might give a shit what you guys think
Don’t do my girl Dory like that! 😂😂😂 Heck, Chap Mei gave us a gigantic C-130 cargo plane with lights, sounds, figures and accessories for $80. Those patches are a sad, sad tier. The Rattler is impressive and looks great, but they robbing us, and we’ll let um. Lastly, am I wrong for thinking that Pilot Baroness is the best part of it? 😂😍😘
🤣🤣🤣 dory caught a stray she was in the wrong place at the wrong time lol and you are correct the baroness is the best thing about all of this lol
@@ArticulatedNinja 😂🐠💯
Dude i agree, maybe if all figures unlock, a definite no without Barroness
The USS Flagg could easily be made for $50.
It is made of mostly flat pieces that can easily be put together.
It is very cheap and easy.
Do not accept Hasbro's nonsense.
There's no way I'm fitting this Rattler in my moms house
Get your own house and make space for it.
@@GameTime-yj6qv And leave my mother?? No thank you.
@@nottopgoon5773 😆 maybe if you ask nicely and promise to do your chores she will let you have space for it.
@@GameTime-yj6qv maybe.
I'm with you Ninja nice talk big guy....
Unrelated but similar, I have an HP Printer, I needed new color ink cartridges to print in black and white. Either I could fork out $100 for new cartridges that are just going to dry up on me because I don’t print much, or I can pay HP $5 for their ink subscription service.
I singed up not because it was the better value, but because the huge corporation had me by the balls.
if McFarlane made this it definitely a gold label and retail release instead of crowdfunding haslab. as much i don't like McFarlane figure since it always batman and a hit or miss design at least the vehicle was a retail and not a crowdfunding stuff like haslab
@@neonxraven99 and McFarlane would release just a plastic shell with zero paint apps…
@@shawnforrester1610 sure but at least is not crowdfunding haslab
@@shawnforrester1610 just a vehicle with normal retail release and not overpriced crowdfunding where you get a patches as if its a pointless participate award medal
Those patches suck! Screw a command center, do the Cobra Terrordrome! or the U.S.S. Flag! It can be done, Super 7 did the Thundercats Lair and that's for 6 inch figures and charged what, $500 I think. They can do a big playset, get it done!
The fact that the patches contribute nothing to this major purchase I'm making, yet inflates the cost, blows my mind. Yes, I'm going to be one of the rubes who allows this to happen. But I won't do it quietly and I hope Hasbro listens because while this may have saved them cost, its costing them in my trust in the value of Haslab projects.
People are the problem.People create the problem.People refuse to address the problem.
This is what every company is doing now offering less and lower quality products for an inflated price
I'm still on the fence on this, but my childhood is screaming in my ear.
I did bust a gut when they offered ....patches...Heh!
I just realized the other day I can't collect toys anymore. I've been priced out buy rent, food, and necessities. I'm probably going to have to unsubscribe so I don't get tempted. The government and the companies did this.
All facts. I think collectors who collect many lines see through the nonsense and it's really easy to see a person that just buys one line, I've talked to people in the last week that think vehicles being Haslabs are reasonable even though I pointed out Transformers release two foot tall Transformers every year at retail, they've got no response.
Ninja knight wassup I hope all is well and they will never have a response 🤣 they don't think much anyways.
@@ArticulatedNinja haha all good here man, enjoying the videos you're putting out.
Keep calling this stuff out! Did you see that Marvel Legends look like they're putting Haslabs on ice?
The big difference between the Rattler and the HISS is that all the accessories are included with the Rattler, with the HISS you had to unlock them and they where kinda dumb unlocks, a canopy, missiles with no effects, actually no weapon effects.
I don’t know about you, but for me blast effects go away in a drawer, never to be seen again. That’s a kinda’ worthless thing to keep adding to these as if they add value. Ditto lights.
@@namelessjedi2242the lights make it for me, blast effects are nice to have if you do photos or diorama displays, so I’m happy to have them. Neither actually justifies the cost though.
Great video Ninja, I really enjoyed hearing your take on the Cobra Rattler . I agree with you 100% this should have been just a pre-order not a Haslab. I never back a Haslab because i seen what they have done in the past with playsets and vehicles. !
They made toys like this in the 80s and 90s and sold them in a store for half the price of this and most had lights and sounds. Im done with haslab this was all i was waiting for
I understand completely
What is a crock of crap is they said the skystriker is to big. So you will never get one to go against your rattler
It would be foolish for people to purchase something even while still believing it to be over priced.
Remember, other companies can produce cool military style 1:12 toy vehicles with equal or better details for less money.
Basically, they know they needed no help selling the Rattler. Why give us a $25 figure...
I never thought I'd ever back a Haslab strictly because price, but when i saw this for 329 i got my credit card out immediately!...then put it back away when i saw the patches. 😢
Take that money and get some of the Ramen Toys tanks instead.
Exactly
I'm just gonna wait for Valaverse to release a jet
As a lifelong fan of Fred Roger's from the seventies, I declare this the best intro of all time! Fred would approve.
Yeah, I'm out. Hasbro lost me with this and the last series of renders.
Articulated Ninja with the best articulated commentary I've heard around this topic. Well said
How do you "downsize" a FLAGG when one jet is 3 feet? That's a Cobra Jet, the Skystriker is much bigger. It's simply not practical and the cost just to ship it would be triple figures.
The royal starship went to clearance. If Hasbro had the ability to gauge interest then and know exactly how many to make with zero risk they would have.
Brother! I had a B52 for 3.75" scale figures my dad got me while he was still in the army. It was bigger than me. My mother literally hung it from the ceiling in our bedroom. Mainly because it was so big, that was the only way to put it away.
Aye brotha hope everyone has a bless day it looks dope but no space much respect who gets the rattler im mostly looking forward for the new figures they been showing off stay bless💪☝🙏
True pinto hope all is well and I agree I'm more excited about the figures than this.
First thought that came to mind when that first tier was announced: "Patches?!?! We don't need no steenking patches?1?1". Apart from that, agree with you 100% Ninja. They've realised how far they can go and they're going to keep poking the bear (customers) until the bear gets fed up and takes a swipe. It's actually in their best interest for the project to fund, but not hit all the tiers. That way they can get money for stuff they never have to produce...
@@packrat2k7 facts pack well worded
Man I really want this but those patches .. why not a dude that loads the misses up with a little missile cart, would have been soo cool I do think it's beautiful and those 3 figures are dope. I still might get if if everything unlocks
Another great video my friend. Honestly I don't mind the patches. I always say that the value of the Haslab should all be in the initial baseoffering and the tiers should purely just be little thank you bonuses. With that in mind this definitely constitutes a (Very) little bonus. Keep up the great work man.
Well said! As always Dave thank you for supporting smaller channels
The reason why these things are still stuck behind Hasbro's HasLab is because people keep paying Hasbro to do this.
Stop paying Hasbro for this nonsense.
If Hasbro decides they don't want to make these things any more then other companies are more than capable of filling the void.
Stop giving Hasbro money. Hasbro will change or someone else will do it and do it better.
Facts
Thanks for your video Ninja. I mentioned this on Chad's latest post and I don't mind repeating myself on yours. Hasbro should change their slogan to: "Ignorant people making ignorant decisions". I get the feeling that Hasbro is regretting making the Haslab an annual campaign. They just don't have the vision required.
Patches! Patches!!! We don’t need no stinkin patches!!!
I’m a nobody but here’s a couple examples of tiers I can come up with in seconds…..
Ejection seat with wired parachute.
Missiles with flame and smoke effects. (Could also be incorporated into a accessory kit for other vehicles and artillery)
Interchangeable battle damage panels and components.
You’re welcome Hasbro.
The only thing that’s burning me up is being asked to pay for another product before you have the last one in hand. It’s America, I expect companies to cut every corner they can.
Once again I wish your voice was also in the transformers space as well calling out these haslabs. Hasbro is also doing the same thing with thier transformer haslab as they are doing with this rattler. The latest one was Omega Prime which was sold for $249 and is basically two commander class figures, one deluxe figure and accessories. I was instgram and youtube going no that should not be a haslab. especially when i think the omega prime is either slightly shorter or taller than the original (sorry i forget which). the shill did not like what i had to say. I even called one youtuber a shill. All he could say is ""I know why hasbro does not release more than two commander classes." I was like wtf??? Its a massive company with its own online store. They can sell it without being a haslab. And Omega Prime also has other colors that it came in to. Hasbro is doing this with its I guess its two most poplar brands. Haslab sure things.
i’m with my husband “they can make a HISS tank but not a Mauler WTH!”
My husband loves tanks and armored vehicles
@@MayumiC-chan9377 that's awesome he has a supportive wife , tell him to check out "ramen toys armored vehicles" line they are dropping tanks and armored cars. As well as valaverse's vanguard vehicle.
@@ArticulatedNinja actually my husband started building our own!
my husband is a veteran of the SANDF so making 1/12 3d printed models of Nato armor is his forte.
My husband’s appearance looks like Sergeant Stalker so he kitbashed the classified stalker to look like himself when he was in the DRC and Botswana. i love the Joytoy 1/12 female clothed figures and i love realism in designs too like my husband. I kitbashed many classified female figures to look like actual military women of Japan and Korean instead of stereotypical Kunoichi. We love Gridiron 1/12 equipment customs that have more realistic 1/12 military weapons and equipment. I support my husband because he supports my Otaku collection and cosplay. life is fun and like my husband says “everyone deserves a hobby to make themselves happy and i miss those childhood memories of Gi joe action figures and only care i had was summer coming to an end”. My husband was a 1980/90s kid and growing up on Air Force bases his father fed hismgi joe collection because it was a hobby they both enjoyed and i can see it in my husband and our son.
I’ll never back this shit because specifically those patches it put such a bad taste in my mouth it made me question even collecting classified. It is unreal to me that they had the balls to do that. I hate action figure collectors for just enforcing this scummy behavior
That’s what makes Ninja right on this…they take advantage of our loyalty and love for the brand
I'm guessing for 99% of the buyers those patches wouldn't even be taken out of the envelope they arrive in.
“He ain’t lying’” and the Stephen A cut 😂
They could care less? Or they couldn't care less?
True my bad for the typo I noticed it on my way home said I ll fix it once I get in lol
@@ArticulatedNinja all good man, the video was quality as always
The patches as a tier is worthless !!! I'm backing it to get the Rattler !!! But your right they could have mass produced it for a mass market release !!!
Thank you newman for being a backer and still understanding my position I appreciate it 🙏🏽 I agree with you get it while you can so you don't have to pay 3x the price for it later
Meanwhile Mattel is making strip malls for the MOTU line. 🤣
Damn 😮that you are spitting facts .
Exactly exactly exactly 💯 exactly
I agree with your assessment!
I was fully-expecting another expensive staircase to nowhere.
Patches?
Hasbro is selling a toy ariplane and a couple of action figures and they include PATCHES?!
We don't want no stinkin' PATCHES! (Hasbro is so disgusting that my grammar is ruined!)
Some good points raised but in fairness I think a few things were missed in this analysis.
Firstly, it's not apples to apples to measure the Rattler by the Naboo starship. Not only was the market different then, but Star Wars as a property was white hot. Comparatively, GI Joe hasn't really been relevant for decades. To expand on that, look at the difference between the two properties now: three successful campaigns for Joe with nothing even being attempted for Star Wars despite the interest from collectors.
Second, each Joe HasLab has been a milestone. It's easy to look back at the HISS and Dragonfly and say they would have worked with a different format but to a significant if not majority collector population the HISS WAS a "dream project". The HISS established that 1/12 scale Joe vehicles were not only viable but highly desired and wildly successful. The Dragonfly showed that the HISS wasn't a one-off and that vehicles that have a larger footprint could also work. Now the Rattler is showing that even larger vehicles are viable.
Finally, while I'll stipulate that the patches aren't the best or even necessarily a good choice, it's arguably forgivable if one takes into account the sheer amount of extras that come in the base package: damage panels, weapon effects, and additional weapons. It's worth bearing in mind that on the HISS the alternate parts and extra weapons were tiers. Here, we get everything up front.
Finally it should be said that just on the base package, to get a GOOD-looking 1/12 Rattler for the price being asked is a legit deal. For someone that justifiably rags on products for excessive pricing, honesty and integrity should have gotten the Rattler some kudos for that alone.
@@michaelennis9040 I never complained about the price so I def. Didn't " rag" on the price or not give them kudos I did , also I never say it was apples to apples in short
These vehicles would do fine with the crowdfunding model with patches lol that's all.
I actually didn't say you ragged on the price.
I just mentioned that you rag on prices in general, by which I mean you call out unreasonable pricing like with the Ghost Rider project. That's one where I agreed with you pretty much 100%.
At the end of the day I do agree that the patches as a tier are an error, but imo it's a forgivable one in light of how good the base product is.
Cheers.
Two big cobra logo parachutes would have been better than patches if they wanted to give us a cheap tier... at least they could be used with the damn plane!
The other fact I think is really shady on Hasbros part is that on both the previous has lab projects nether of them have been the measurements as they were originally advertised. they change the dimensions and make them smaller by 2 or 4 inches after the thing is bought and paid for. the fact they did that on the hiss and dragonfly and never even acknowledged it makes me feel like its on purpose to make even more money
Amen! Thank you for speaking the truth!
Articulated Ninja brother I like how u always keep it 💯 and u not shy or scared to speak your mind and keeping it real u said everthing I had on my mind when I seen this Haslab 😂no disrespect to who want this but am not gonna get it
Large company crowdfunding has never sat right with me. Couldn't bring myself to go along with it, feel like an idiot.
Also good on you for calling out other youtubers that shill and follow the hype train, they hurt the hobby.
Yea the Dragonfly got push back for December. My idea was adding a mechanic figure or a fueling station for the plane
Never understood the Haslab idea especially as Hasbro already has a online store with Hasbro Pulse where they could put these projects on. Both Valaverse & Ramen Toys have shown that 1/12 vehicles do not have to be crowdfunded instead just pre-ordered like any other figure.
All facts jason 🔥
The Rattler would unironically make a good Transformer
Thank you ninja. Finally someone else calls out that the first unlocked tier is those stupid patches. And that's the only thing you get in that tier. Not an extra figure, not blast effects, not even the patches with say a set of stickers to go on the plane.
100% agreed, and I mentioned on my video. Hasbro knew what they are doing here, they knew people will going to buy the Rattler and they took the opportunity to save money by throwing those patches. Shame on Hasbroooooioooo!!!
Next project, they gonna give us red, white, and blue zippers and buttons.
Or maybe three 12 x 12 magnets (a cobra, a Gijoe, and a Hasbro one) for you to put the on you car.
This is the first HasLab I've participated in, only reason I did it was because I reeeeeally want Wild Weasel. But otherwise, $325 for a giant plastic airplane (no matter how cool it looks) would have probly been a non-starter. It's likely the only time I will do this; Hasbro's marketing strategies are starting to wear thin with me. You make so many good valid points in this discussion. 👏🏻
I totally agree on the Haslab situation. The rattler looks beautiful, and I love the A-10 in general. I WILL NOT support a company this size crowdfunding. I’ve got 3 Stingers on pre-order, and would have pre-ordered this, if it wasn’t a Haslab.
The thing that really bothers me about the Rattler is I never wanted to see Wild Weasel's face. I had a specific image in my mind. Like reading a book then seeing a movie goofs with it. Wasn't even close.
Hasbro did a big mass market ship as late as 2019 with the galaxy’s edge BMF which was supposed to be a Disney parks exclusive but went to mass market because it didn’t sell in the parks. (I can see why, shipping it out of there would have been hell!)
BTW I also had the naboo cruiser! 90’s kids had unreal toys. Seeing it again makes me think my ultimate dream haslab: the X-men’s blackbird- would be 100% possible.
Hold up did everyone get their Sky Strikers shipped %100? I know people still waiting.
On a related note, Kudos to the Marvel Legends team for NOT doing a Haslab. Wait a second, where did the Big Mac from 1974 come from? a time capsule? Never go full Classified.
I’m not going to hold you as someone who’s backed all the Gi Joe haslab minus the 1:18 scale stuff those patches don’t sit right with me. I thought the first haslab was a bit overprice but since it was the first I wanted to get something that wasn’t available in mass market. The dragon fly was a solid offering that I have no issues with. I won’t lie I’m going to be backing the rattler because I think it’s cool. If they do some fucj shit on the next haslab I’ll be done with the line
Valid points. Not to mention Hasbro Pulse Premium.