The HORRIFIC Torture Of The Women Who Slept With German Soldiers
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- Following the Normandy Invasions and D-Day, the Allies came across a number of French towns, cities and settlements that were very happy to see their liberators. But they also witnessed horrific treatment of a number of women who were accused of sleeping with German Soldiers and they were accused of 'horizontal collaboration.' This led to 20,000 women being shaved in public in brutal scenes, with crowds jeering and punishing the women who were seen as betraying their country. Many of these women were also beaten and forced to run the gauntlet, and with this some inside of Paris were even beaten.
The scenes of the treatment of the women who slept with the Germans was horrific, and many of these women were forced to cavort with German soldiers for food. Some fell in love, but in France it was seen as such a crime to have slept with the enemy. The hair cuts and heads shaved that women had to shame them dated back to the Dark Ages, and these scenes were played out in many French towns and cities. It was very shocking, and was like a riot was breaking out. Many women were marked as sleeping with the Germans and also were even covered in tar for their shame.
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It is instructive to note that many of the French upper classes who collaborated with the Germans were never held to account....they were untouchable. That was reserved for the lower classes. I have seen newsreel footage of French civilians striking allied prisoners as they were being marched along streets of Paris or some other city...many French collaborated with the Germans. Many feared communists more than the Germans and welcomed the Germans to suppress the communists. Many thousands of European men entered military service for the Third Reich to fight communism. That is a fact that is rarely mentioned today.
A lot of French men joined the SS. It wasn't just a select few it was tens of thousands that joined the regular army along with the SS. It's skipped over a lot and rarely ever addressed.
During parts of the 1930s France was in a pre Civil War situation. In Spain it actually broke out and was a theater of interwar hates.
The Germans had been fighting the Communists in Europe since 1936, when they assisted the Nationalists in the Spanish Civil War. (Even earlier if you count the defeat of Communist Uprisings in Germany).
Hitler was concerned about the Soviet Communists invading Europe. Lenin had repeatedly remarked that "The Revolution shall be carried to Western Europe on the bayonets of Soviet soldiers!" and "The shortest route to Berlin and Paris lay through Warsaw!"
I think Stalin felt the same way. The Soviets were quick to invade Poland and Finland in 1939. (And occupied half of Europe after the war).
I think Europe was a powder keg in 1939,.. and Hitler lit the match!
Evil is everywhere money and power.
@ALAIN TERRIEUR Quelle langue! 'Nazi officer'. Ce n' étaient pas des officiers nazis, c' étaient des officiers allemands.
The saddest part was the terrible treatment of the innocent children born under these circumstances.
Anni-Frid Lyngstad of ABBA fame was one of those innocent children born during the German occupation of Norway. Her story is very sad.
@@laurencetilley9194 I may be wrong but, wasn't it her grandmother who took her to Sweden to get her away from Norway?
They should not have spread their legs.
@@laurencetilley9194 Alfred Haase was her father I think he died in 2006, he was very involved with his daughter
@@mydnytmover I don’t blame them for wanting to sleep with the last true Europeans and heroes of European civilization.
It applied mainly to lower class French women. The upper class ladies who also collaborated, like CHANNEL the dress designer & Arletty the film star got away with it. As referred to this was not particularly a French "thing". The Germans did the same
Coco Chanel.
As I understand it, the allies were going to prosecute her until Churchill intervened personally and saved Chanel, apparently his wife and others in English society liked her.
@@StalinTheMan0fSteel Such a shame - she should have been taken out.
Louis Vuitton also collaborated with the Germans!
I see someone else watched the most recent Bill Burr stand up on Netflix
Why should we make excuses for women ??
men who collaboratorate with the enemy are executed... even if they did it out of fear
Men were executed for desertion... even if they did it out of fear (scared to fight)
Not to mention, that women in most cases are not even forced to fight in the war... While young men were forced to fight.
I'm from the Netherlands and this happend here too after the war. Some people still bare the "shame" of being a grandchild of/related to these poor women. It's crazy
Well, that just makes it all way worse! Why in Gods name should there be ANY shame?!? They did nothing
Never seen or heard of that and I lived there for 30 years.
@@peterdebrie depends where you live(d) maybe. My hometown and surrounding area's it was a thing the old People whispered about or used in a rage argument. I moved away and live in a city now. Dont notice it here but i dont hang out with many 80/90 yr olds r/n
Hello Netherlands! My brother Paul and I are part Dutch on our mom's side of the family! Hello from Tyler Texas U.S.A.
@@This-Is-My-Little-Corner They helped the Nazi's that killed their own people and you know sent 9 million people to death camps.
Of course Coco Chanel beat it out of town w/her GERMAN COMMANDANT LOVER before
the dubious outraged French could get her hair, or publicly rebuke Maurice Chevalier for entertaining the German high command in Paris
So they pick on the poor French girls trying to feed their family
There was more than enough disdain to go around Paris & the surrounding towns
And as Arlette (French actress of the time) said
*My heart belongs to France but my ass belongs to me*
And the Germans
@@cjclark2002 that's was her point a she stood & spoke on the street in defense of these, mostly, young girls
Even Edit Piaf was suspected.
"Pick on" the French girls trying to feed their families? Do you know what they did to all the French "boys" trying to feed their families? They summarily executed them all. Sounds like the girls got off light to me.
@@gordonski9310 no she never was b/c she worked with high level resistance leaders by going to the German Stalags to entertain the French troops & having her picture taken w/specific French soldiers so that subsequent photo could be used for a fake ID card once they helped that soldier escape
My mother witnessed in her French town the humiliation of women with shaved heads. I never heard her use the term "horizontal collaberation." Often the leader of a group of men jeering and hitting at a woman accused of sleeping with German soldiers, was a jilted French suitor of the accused collaborator.
History ... plenty of stories of mankind's awful behavior.
@@reginamoro4269 VERY SAD 😔 ENDING. AT LEAST THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES BEFORE THEY JUDGE THEM. MANY WOMEN GAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON FRENCH RESISTANCE AND THE ALLIES, AND INSTEAD OF THANKING THEM 😀 AND FEEL GRATITUDE FOR THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GERMAN ACTIVITIES, SOME WOMEN WERE NOT LISTENED WERE SHAVED, HUMILIATED OR EVEN EXECUTED.
Yes, let's not let our righteous anger run roughshod over the horrible truths people face in war. Then and right now.
Correct…human nature and all that…
good they deserved it
I refuse to believe the majority of these women did this voluntarily. People with no food, no shelter, or no safety can't be judged for surviving.
This kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world.
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And yet many others fought rather than collaborating. So yeah, they can be judged.
SVP ! Haut et court.
To be fair you maybe right but it’s what rage can do , even decent people can do terrible things in an attempt at revenge, but exceptional point you made ❤
It was voluntarily. The motivation wasn't desparation or stavation. You should try to learn something about the living standart in France during the second world war. For most it was love and romance. Big strong german soldiers marching through the streets where attractive and desirable.
Very few women did this. Most women stayed clear of the occupiers.
I have read about some women who were accused of this but were completely innocent but the crowds were ready to believe anything. A lot of old scores were settled by lying accusers.
Many of the French head-shavers, were not members of the resistance. Quite a few had been collaborators themselves, and sought to divert attention from their own lack of resistance.
Many victims were young mothers, who were had hungry children with no means of support it was not political.
Just like today. People belive only what they want to belive. They take sides without knowing what's truly up.
It likely happened
Very easy to believe. I can't imagine that many of the women were given a trial where they could defend themselves. All they would have needed were one or two people to point the finger
Cry about it
WW2 was such an insane and cruel time in history. If we get horrified by what we now know, just imagine the things that we don't get to know about... it was a wild time where cruelty, corruption and perversity ran amok and millions of people showed a lack of regard for human dignity and life.
It's gonna be that way again too :(
Same things happen In Ukraine now. Nothing is changed. Russian men are ready to go and kill because they master wants.
China and Soviet Union kept the party going long after.
Their brutality to their fellow man during peacetime is what's disturbing.
@@morganreigns1984 Your're right.Unfortunately war is a consequence of overpopulation and different belief systems,ideologies ect which has been going on for thousands of bloody years.Now it's on a much larger scale.How about making a video on how brutal and systematicly savage the wonderful Romans where?
@@simontrigg9059 overpopulation is a myth perpetrated by those in power to implement the UN's AGENDA21 aka AGENDA2030 by the NWO to seize/abolish private property . if anything we just have high population density via large cities /urban areas but as far as the world entire goes NO most of the world is untouched.
Everyone in France was part of the resistance in 1945 but not in 1940.
Something Canadians do not want to admit is that during WW2 most French Canadians supported Vichy France.
The hardest time to be in the resistance was 1940-1942 when the Germans seeked unbeatable.
@@davidcritchley3509 In 1942 the Germans seemed unbeatable but both Herman Goering and Jozef Goebels knew by then that Germany could not win the war. They knew that given the resources of the USA and the USSR that Germany could not could not defeat the Allies. They were hoping for a break between the Western Allies and the USSR. If they could negotiate a separate peace with the Western Allies then they could stave off the USSR. They did not realise that FDR was serious about unconditional surrender.
lol It's fine to resistance when you got British, Canada and American troops backing you.
However funny. France had a bit of Crisis during ww2. As the communists and socialists groups wanted to take over. Which would have led to more death. There was fighting long after ww2 on just whom would come out on top.
Who gets to judge here? Never expect to know what you would do in horrific conditions.
Gina, the right words! 🙏
What are you talking about... if you have sex with an invading army's soldiers, expect some backlash from YOUR soldiers when they return home. Violence isn't needed, but getting your head shaved and paraded around town seems pretty tame compared to the things the people they were involved with were doing...
Mow , here come someone with lot of facts...don't know how to behave in terrible, survival mode kick in, and divinity out the window BUT race come in as well.
@@bobjim245 I always assumed the women had no choice about fraternizing with the Germans, meaning the Invading aggressive soldiers probably wouldn’t accept rejection.
@@sharonc9259 those I wouldn't class in the same boat, victims of wartime rape are victims not collaborators, I was specifically speaking about the girls that decided they would take a nazi lover and travel with them around Europe while they fucked up the continent with their nonsense. I know the two were pretty much indistinguishable by the time it all came to pass but I stand by my point that if you DID decide to take a nazi boyfriend as a French women, expect backlash?
My grand mother was one of these womens. Finally have a girl from a german soldier ( My mother). Not a glory years but history for my family.
THE BABIES 👶 WHO WERE BORN UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES DURING AND AFTER WW2 ENDED, ARE NOT TO BE BLAMED OR SCARRED FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. THEY WERE AND ARE STILL INNOCENT.
@@giorgosfylaktou2610 yes we hear you why do you type in CAPS?
@@johntowle MAKES IT EASIER FOR DUMB FUCKERS LIKE YOU TO READ
@@johntowle
Hi John
Same happens to me sometimes.
I look at the keyboard when typing-with one finger-when finished-see CAP letters on the screen-. Oops
Cannot be bothered to retype.
@@johntowle BECAUSE I ALWAYS WRITE AND TYPE IN CAPS.
The whole thing is a complete nightmare. Worst levels of what humans are capable of. The vulnerable suffering. Just disgusting how soviet, american, German etc military men that raped, beat and killed women/girls The numbers are staggering. Just pigs
Some Dutch and German samples here :
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Except these humiliations scenes, very few women were killed by the mob, or executed by authorities. On another hand, about 11000 French male collaborators were executed, most in 1944/45.
Your narrative has become better and better. I have shared your site as much as possible. Keep up the good work. This was a harrowing subject but people must know and remember, these terrible crimes must never be forgotten on both sides no one was totally innocent. This was War at it's worst.
War. War never REEEEEEE
Of A L L the deaths in WORLD WAR ll , WHO STARTED IT, WHO SNEAKLY AMERICA at PEARL HABOR ?Who IMMEDIATELY allied with JAPAN ,against AMERICA?
Many other questions may be posed, THESE few however , ABSOLUTELY define the perpetrators of that HORRENDOUS war.
Some were much more innocent than others. The US and their Allie’s DID NOT START the war!!!
Punishing collaborators is not a crime.
Collaboration is the crime and these criminals got off lightly.
@@louisabridge Weak children of today like to judge history according to their modern standards. They lack the capacity for historic context nor have they seen the horrors of war where you leave all morality aside and things become the law of the jungle.
What gets me is you'll most probably find a good percentage of the idiots carrying out these vile disgusting acts on these women, guilty of collaboration of some kind them selves.
Those women were triators
What seems to be overlooked is 5 years (and sometimes longer) is the horrific torture and cruelty (physical and mental) by the occupiers.
One quick example:
Thousands of Jewish people who were made to clean streets in Germany and Austria on their knees and with bare hands.
Millions upon millions of innocent people, Jewish, Slavic, Resistance fighters, Homosexuals, Romas, totally innocent people ETC., were starved, tortured,starved, killed or annihilated by the Germans and their Allies.
20,000 (+) women got their hair shaved and were despised. A year later, most assimilated again and they went on with their lives (as Coco Chanel did) as if nothing had happened.
20 million people did not have that chance...
A shaved head an extreme cruelty or mistreatment???
You do know where Hitler got his Eugenics idea right?
@@wombatwilly1002 yes W W I do. I also know that Joseph Kennedy Sr., the Duke of Windsor, Henry Ford, Lindbergh, the (then) Pope and many, many more were Pro Nazi.
Does that erase the horrors and crimes of humanity committed by Herr Hitler and his lackeys?
My opinion and I do not believe further discussion will be fruitful.
Thank you.
@@renskeconnell8038 Wasn't meant to upset you or put blame on anyone but most people don't realize where Uncle Adolf got his inspiration from 😁
@@wombatwilly1002 Where?
@@douglasbubbletrousers4763 The American Eugenics society who had sterilized 65,000 "undesirables" before it was shut down!
I don’t believe that babies and toddlers should have been punished for their stupid mothers actions.
Agree not right
You may say was it any worse than your neighbours who snitched on you to a German that you were hiding an escaped POW, or somewhere in your house you had a hidden radio. Where I live this happened a lot.
Which would lead to their arrest, and then sent to a POW camp, where they more than likely died.
I said what I said as I live in Jersey in the Channel Islands.
So am well aware of what happened to Islanders who hid escaped P.O.W and were told on by there neighbours who they thought were their friends and could trust.
It just shows you in time of war, you can’t trust anyone and the saying- “Careless talk, cost lives” Couldn’t be more true.
Everyone's a tough guy; after the Germans had departed. I suspect there's a lot of 'projection' going on here.
@ALAIN TERRIEUR When British Intelligence carried out the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich in 1942, the German's executed approximately 4000 Czech civilians. Given that the British were fully aware of what the Germans would likely do in response to the assassination, it raises the question; were the expected reprisals the underlying purpose behind the operation? This of course raises another question. Since the ambush killing of German soldiers by the French 'Resistance' contributed very little to the actual war effort; was the disproportionate response from the Germans the underlying purpose for this killing.? In other words, was the 'Resistance' killing Germans, wittingly or otherwise, to make sure the Germans kept killing French civilians?
@ALAIN TERRIEUR Sure, but we're not discussing the fighting effectiveness of the Free French forces in WW 2. We are talking about the French collapse during the Battle of France (apparently) and the reason for the large number of French civilians killed by the Germans during the occupation. As far as the Battle of France is concerned; it is simply ridiculous, at this point, to suggest that the French military and civil establishment wasn't responsible for the collapse of the Allied Front. Despite the disparity in populations between the French and German nations, the French military was more than capable of successfully resisting the German assault. Due mainly to inadequacies in leadership and military organization, they failed miserably. We can attempt to distort history as much as we like but the Battle of France could have been won by the Allies if the French leadership, civil and military, hadn't lost it's nerve.
@@haroldgodwinson832 It was exiled Czech government who ordered that assassination, not the British . Get your facts right .
@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204 I stand by everything I said. Yes, the idea for the Heyrich assassination was conceived by a Czech, but the operation was planned and facilitated by MI6 and the the British Government. The UK based CGIE had no capacity, at all, to mount an operation of this kind. Surely even you would understand that. And the point that I was making remains. The CGIE was made to feel embarrassed by the easy relationship that had developed between the Czech people and the German occupation. They felt compelled, because of that British pressure, to undertake an act of resistance that would turn Czech citizens against the occupation. It was understood, only too well, that killing Heydrich would spark a ferocious German response. That response (the murder of thousands of Czech citizens), was intended to change public opinion in Czechoslovakia and was the primary purpose of the operation. That was fully understood by the British and Czech governments alike.
@@haroldgodwinson832You can stand by whatever you like , it doesn’t make it factual ..
My father was shot in a small town in France, in the lower back and leg. As children, not understanding, we would ask him to tell us about the war. One day, only once in my lifetime, did he tell us about an event. He said they went into the towns in France to liberate them. In one town, a woman who loved the Germans, killed one of the Canadian soldiers…she stabbed him. They caught her. Later they had the towns people gather in the centre of town. The Canadian Sergeant said loudly, anyone who attacks any Canadian soldiers, this will happen to them……………he slit her throat. The look on his face, we NEVER, asked him again.
coward men start wars, run away and hide and come back to harass the weak, mostely women.
typical men, always a source of danger
That sounds like a bunch of bologna.
@@Michael_Hunt You're full of sh..t! I doubt you had a father who went to war. BYW you couldn't be anymore rude. This was my experience and my father was a vet who was shot twice in France. Go back into the hole you came out of since you cannot control yourself to show respect to someone who fought for your freedom.
Engaging in combat dressed as a civilian is a war crime and punishable by death
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Given how large a part of France was officially in a collaboration with Germany through the Vichy Government it seems somewhat unfair as to who was singled out for punishment and who was not, although I can understand the ire of the ordinary person against the Nazi rulers and those were associated with them. It's easy to be judgmental in hindsight of this behavior, but we need to remember the atrocities carried out by the Nazis and the big part informants etc. played in the torture and execution of many resistance fighters and civilians during WW2.
@ELIE KOPTER but strangely, that didn't stop hundreds of thousands of French men and women from collaborating with the occupier , especially the Milice and the Charlemagne SS division
Where were these tough Frenchmen, when the Germans came to town…putting their hands up and waving the white flag.
That is why France fell like a pack of cards.
Notice the brave Frenchmen waited until the Germans had gone before they started shaving heads….Aww the bravery.🤣
@@Petal4822 It's best I don't comment on the actions of the French, if I get started I might not be able to stop ;) and then I might get into a rant about the countries whose governments thought being neutral and letting others do the fighting was an appropriate option when you have someone intent on conquering the whole of Europe, including your own country. In fairness there were some very brave French resistance fighters who risked all against the Germans, however a lot more acted as you pointed out.
@@Petal4822 I can only guess the French who weren't in France were emboldened by the fact they weren't in France, while many who were there chose collaboration, over resistance.
@@Petal4822 you had better shut up about subjects you are not that sure about. My father got the Croix de Guerre avec palmes for what he did in that war. And he was in the resistance. Among other things.Although I don't expect you to know what that meant and how few of those medals were given.
Evil generate evil, and evil has no national boundary or ethnicity.
That why it is so important for any civilising progress to judge individual responsibilities and abhor collective ones.
Humanistic progress is slow and applied in ways that are often far from ideal, but it is somehow comforting to note that the rebound from great acts of barbarity is generally less horrific than the hate that generated them in the first place.
These women were subjected to ordeals that should not have taken place, but at least were not rounded up in an organised deportation to extermination sites.
As I wrote, "evil generate evil" and anyone willing to fight to foster what is good and decent in our human nature should take its weakness, capacity for hate and misrepresentation into account. Sadly.
They were collaborators and got what they deserved.
@@louisabridge "Collaborators" should be judged for what they actually have done, lest one would substitute evil for evil.
The French never got over the shame and humiliation of being occupied hence the over the top and cruel retributions carried out when they were liberated . Not a condemnation as we do not know how we would react in a similar situation . War strips people of their humanity and makes then act brutally and out of character .
Right. See Tulle massacre as an example
@ELIE KOPTER It wasn't an "accident" it was a highly organised cock up by the French authorities. Every time the British would make a stand, usually successful, the French would fold on their flanks making them retreat. Granted that some French units did well, but most did not.
@ELIE KOPTER Some units did well. Many others did not, especially the higher up officers.
@ELIE KOPTER It wasn’t an accident…the French gave in and waved white flags.
Oradour-sur-Glane massacre...
Barbaric. Most of these men were collaborators and show their courage by torturing these women. The crowd is thirsty for revenge and just as bad as the enemy. Scenes from the dark ages.
Uncle John once asked me Mark, How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
I said, I donot know Uncle John , was my reply,
Uncle John shot back neither did we.
In WW1 if if had not been for the Brits, the Scots, the Welch, the Irish, Australian s, Candians , Belgian troops, New Zealander, French Colonial Forces , British Colonial Forces, etc, Paris would have fell in 1914. Just like it fell in 1940.
The sad part of this whole affair is this could all have been avoided in 1919, had France and the British acted like America who signed it's own peace deal with Germany.
Nazism would never have risen.
Thus they only got themselves to blame.
For all the moral outrage expressed about things like this these days, we are not better people now, indeed, some of us talk about killing people in the most horrible ways for mistreating animals, never mind what we might do if they mistreated a child. Some things don't change very much in human nature. After the war there was a great desire to purge, to cleanse formerly occupied areas of any reminders of the defilement that the fascist Wehrmacht brought to them. Ask any rape victim how they feel afterwards, there is a sense of having been made filthy and desiring to be clean again. That is normal and healthy. How many of these women were guilty of willingly collaborating "horizontally" the enemy, betraying their countries in a dark hour, and how many were victims of abuse or circumstances - nobody will ever know. The punishment was harsh, to be sure, arguably justified in the case of those who did it willingly. But the subsequent ostracisation of the half-German children was too much. They weren't at fault for being born.
Mistreating animals or children is far worse than what these women did.
@@juliewills3592 And that justifies savagery, does it? I put it to you that some of the murderous and sadistic threats I've heard breathed out against people who have mistreated animals, particularly, are both insane and make those who issue the threats by far and away a lower kind of human being than those they condemn.
In the case of children, there is an instinctual protective sense at play. Children are the future, they are our descendants, the continuation of our lines. It is natural and healthy to want to defend them too, even to the point of using violence to do so. However, sadism here is also inexcusable. That is an illness quite separate to any desire to protect or to cleanse oneself.
We legally mistreat (mutilate millions of unborn children every year. Yes it has been an evil civilization)
@@juliewills3592 how right you are.
There are no such things as illegitimate children, only parents.
So women were punished when the French Army rolled over and surrendered leaving these women to be occupied by German soldiers. Likely these "liberators" took their own inadequacies as men out on women that played the scape goat.
@ELIE KOPTER Terribly sorry for the civilian hostages, taking them hostage and killing them is a war crime. But I guess you know that no army is obliged to treat a guerilla fighter as a POW?
They run away like cowards and came back to take their anger out on women, men
As a women I am not going to judge these women- war, fear, hunger - what would you do to feed your family and stay safe.
For your information, this kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world.
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Not be a traitor first of all.
@@Michael_Hunt precisely.
In WW2, The Germans took Paris without firing a shot, while the brave French just watched on.
The French left it to the Allies to liberate France while the Frenchmen willing collaborated with the Nazis.
During WW2, Tens of thousands of Frenchmen volunteered for the Milice and Charlemagne SS.Division.
They fought for Germany on the Eastern Front and in Berlin.
While the Allies fought to liberate their country.
The brave US & Allies Soldiers fought and died (not for their own country) but to liberate France.
The French should be eternally grateful that the Allies didn’t shave their heads for Nazi collaboration and cowardice.
You seem to forget the Free French who hated collaborators and deleted many of them.
Oh be quiet, The French saved us in our fight for independence from the British. You're ass wasn't in WWII so save your criticism for somebody who cares.
It's good that you mention the Channel Islands. This is the only occupied area where Germans and locals lived in harmony. The German soldiers stationed there never had to engage in any war activity except at the very end. The local women easily fell in love with the good looking German soldiers.
And let's face it: all women were left to themselves for years. How many young, healthy women can be without male company for so long? A German was better than no one at all. And the Germans also provided food.
What a terrible comment in light of the dead male soldiers
@@jonathanchurch7561 There's no disrespect whatsoever. The German soldiers were there against their will and everyone tried to make the best of a bad situation. No one knew how long the war would last.
When the Romans invaded Britain their soldiers also started mixing with the local women after a while.
We're not talking about wives cheating on their husband (although that surely happened too), but young girls who never had a boyfriend. They only had Germans to choose from.
@@jacquesmertens3369 lmao. You should read what the Romans said about the Britons. They didn't mix. That's why nobody in Britain has Roman blood. We are Germano-Celtic
Never join in with anyone who wants to engage in hurting people simply because they are on the other side or housing people on the other side. The people who try to instigate such things are the enemy and the ones we need to watch out for.
Hello, Julie. How are you doing today?
Okay, Nazi sympathizer.
you sound shaved
@@sukamedik9739 LOL :)
What they did to these women, many of whom were just trying to keep body and soul together, was horrible enough, but calling having your head shaved and paraded around for a bit to be publicly shamed hardly qualifies as "horrific torture".
Have you tried placing yourself as a woman in occupied France during the 1940's ? For those women, it was horrific torture. Torture isn't always physical. They psychologically tortured those women, and left them scarred for life. Is that not horrific enough to qualify ?
@ALAIN TERRIEUR Bro, that IS exactly my point. No one cared that so many of these women "slept with the enemy" for fear of their own lives, and the lives of their families. How many women were forced to do it ? No one knew, and no one cared to find out either. The women were just subjected to the humiliation after the war, without any trials or sentencing. My point is, how many atrocities were committed AFTER the war as well ? This was one of them.
@ALAIN TERRIEUR the men probably did more than just sleep with soldiers
It was a mark for the rest of their lives and direct descendency. These towns are characterized for being small, so everyone knows each other. Now tell me that ain't an horrific torture
@@bluewater2017 just accept it: in this day and age, there's a bias against being empathetic toward women and it's likely only going to get worse in the coming years. you're a woman on the side of the road in need of assistance changing your tire? good luck with that. better keep that triple A number handy.
and guess what? there are simply too many social forces that have been set in motion for you to ever be able to change this. as life gets shittier for average men, life will inevitably get shittier for most women over time, even if it's all rainbows under a sunny sky for now. Have fun with that world , incel or parent /grandparent of future incel...
Im french, don't judge us! My grandparents were resistant iin a small town and saw a lot of young men killed, tortured and more by germans soldiers! The women who slept with them knew exactly what they did.... Don't forget that the french resistance knew exactly which of them betrayed and at the same moments french people died in extermination camp. That was really shocking!!!!
The British and the US didn’t trust De-Gaulle.
That is why they deliberately didn’t tell him about “Operation Torch” before it happened much to De-Gaulle’s annoyance.
My grandparents were resistance fighters too. So many stories of hardship and near death - my mother told me about how women were punished for collaborating. I was angry that women who are almost powerless to do anything else were blamed for their survival. As a teen I decided to shave my head before visiting my family in their hamlet. My uncle laughed and said I looked like a hedgehog. No one else got my protest.
Being brutalised is not an excuse to brutalise others, yes ? Any punishment without any form of trial or sentencing is unjust, is brutal, and is completely barbaric. That aspect can be judged though, can't it ? Also btw, there are PRISONS for people who "break the law". Resorting to punishment that appears to be thought up by only a Neanderthal on Acid is NOT justice. It is barbarianism and a step closer toward anarchy.
and how many Frenchmen betrayed you!
what about all the wymn who later took food home, medicine home, their families not shot et.al?
They show this treatment briefly on Band of Brothers when they're in Holland.
It was not "horrific" and that title is pure clickbait. They were allowed to live and should have been grateful for that. Traitors deserve the rope.
There countrymen failed them and their hearts betrayed them, how could they dishonor their sister's at the same time farmers and store clerks sold products to the germans.
These tough Frenchmen, were quick to put their hands up and wave the white flag. That is why France fell like a pack of cards.
Notice the brave Frenchmen waited until the Germans had gone before they started shaving heads….Aww the bravery.🤣
While the British, Canadians and the US. we’re fighting to liberate their cowardly country.
@HARRY KOSSEC
During Operation Torch On November 8th 1942.
The British and American forces destroyed the French colonial opposition in the French North African territories which was controlled by the Vichy Regime.
The British hoped that the French African corps would offer no resistance but this was proved wrong.
The Free French fought against the Allied soldiers that were trying to liberate them.
It was only after they were defeated did they decide to change sides and help the Allies.
@HARRY KOSSEC Resorting to rudeness means you have obviously lost the argument. Maybe you should research ‘ Operation Torch’
Did you know that the red haired singer from ABBA, Frida, was one of these unfortunate innocent children. Her mother Synni was a teenage Norwegian woman and her father was a married German nazi soldier in occupied Norway and had a wife and children in Germany.. When Germany lost the war he fled Norway before she was born. He never contacted Synni even though he promised he would. They thought he did when his ship was sunk. Synni and her mother had to flee Norway to escape prosecution as neighbors were targeting them and baby Frida. They went to Sweden. Synni died when Frida was 2 and her grandmother raised her in Torshalla Sweden. She was lucky in that way. Children of German soldiers were hated. They were ostrosized, institutionalized raped, experimented on even sent straight to Germany. It turns out Fridas father was very much alive. She found out when she was an adult.
So much judgmental behaviour towards women never ends. My heart goes out to these women, some merely looking for love, food & protection.
Hello, Sally. How are you doing today?
you mean they betrayed their country for selfish reasons while germans murdered those around them, people who also wanted these things but didnt collaborate.
Nobody source love with a enemy.
Enemies are… ENEMIES
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Thank you
@@patrickpga2880in your black & white world maybe. If life would be just that easy...
Love your channel. Shocked at an older video of your visiting UK "tourist spots" and how awful the price and treatment of the average UK citizen is...TYSM, Sir.
The "untold Past" may show sympathy for these women, but it must be balanced against the mothers & fathers, sisters & brothers of those french soldiers & civilians who were killed by German forces. Your sympathy is not shared by all French people. There were at least 6 million Jews and many millions of others who were killed in German ovens, so at least some of these collaborators survived.
Remember the British soldier who said that the Brits had not been invaded for 900 years and were in no place to judge. Neither are we.
Maybe it could be some sort of collective PTSD causing that behavior in the whole community
Oh please. People get judged everyday all over the world including by you.
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 And it is a fault we all have. It is my greatest fault.
Cowards and traitors..yes no need too judge! they condemned themselves by their own willful actions!
The people’s court is a dangerous thing!
The unfortunate thing is that these women under the occupation,did not have the power to refuse .The occupying armies would not take kindly to the women who refused.Considering this fact,the treatment of these women is very wrong.Same,goes to their Children
Obviously, many women probably felt at the time that it was their only way to survive, or were either forced by the enemy. The Fact that French Soldiers punished them and that one bloke in 2023 RichieRich870 still does not understand that this is WRONG AND COWARDLY is very very sad indeed! 👊😡🦁
“Ohhhhh nooooo, they shaved my head 😮💨 so barbaric and cruel!
All I did was sleep with the guys who invaded my homeland, and literally put people in ovens! 😭😣
So unfair!”
I do feel bad for the kids, though.
It's easy to look down on this if you didn't live it. Living it no doubt, and knowing what collaboration with the enemy entailed and meant, was a much different story.
I’m wondering if you actually lived it. And you haven’t, I don’t see how your comment holds much weight. If you did, expounding on your comment would be interesting.
I'm not the one judging these people, Fraulein.
Publicly humiliating woman is bad, but so is sleeping with the enemy, when countrymen are set out for war, ready to die for the country.
I had a friend who talked about conversations soldiers had on ships headed to WWII. He said that they decided to sleep with French women when they got to France because they might never make it out alive. So obviously French women had a reputation, and he did indeed hook up with a woman in Paris.
How stupid. How this guy can equate having your head shaved, for torutre, is TOTALLY beyond me!!
Some of these women did it to provide food for their children they were desperate 😢
My father was born to a US soldier in the UK. Not dark like these stories but it also happened with allied soldiers and UK women....
I know it’s a awful subject but holy hell , They’re horizontal collaboration with the enemy haha I almost spit my drink across the room , clever choice of words !!!
meanwhile, the civil servants and gendarme who overwhelmingly collaborted with the nazis were left entirely unpunished.
These are some rare and historic images that I have not seen! My mother was Dutch, and lived through the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands. When I asked her about the head shaving of women after the war (I was in high school), she told me about it and why it was done. But then she said, and I will never forget it, "Never underestimate what a human being will do if they are hungry enough." I don't condemn these women. They were trying to survive the best why they knew how. By the way, Anni-Frid Lyngstad, of ABBA is the daughter of a Swedish mother and a German soldier. I would also ask why the French police who helped the Germans round up Jews were not punished??
My grandfather was a Belgian policeman helping resistance giving them messages in the hills between France and Belgium. He was caught with a colleague during one of these trips and was about to killed by the the firing squad when a french prostitute (who was accompanying the german leader) pleaded for them. He was released and he used to tell me: each time I saw a women accused I kept thinking the ones shaving should have been shaved
I am a little suspect about the accuracy of this narration. There are plenty of other videos about the "ugly carnival". No doubt the life of a collaborator was not good after liberation but the women still fared much better than the male collaborators that were simply shot. All in all this is a story as old as humanity and a good example of why wars need to be prevented at all cost.
I know that a great many of these women were trying to survive and keep kids or family safe, but every choice has a consequence.
The real blame falls on the french generals and soldiers who didn't want to fight, They let germany walk all over them!
Oh the poor women - they got their head shaved while the men were executed.
Please get a narrator who is able to pronounce English correctly.
Don't sleep with the enemies, simple
Interesting that as the rule some people, who were enthusiastic that kind of things were guilty of some collaboration. Also, I’d read that some of these women were actually working for resistance.
I'm not comfortable with the tone aand implied messages you're making. No one can imagine or. judge what people do (including the women) when confronted with atrocities. To then have them punished is also a form of a war crime !
It's to bad your not comfortable, because this the way it happened 78 years ago, because of a mad dog Fascist, just like the orange mad dog wanting to be another Hitler!
No, the most disgusting thing was for “soldiers” to have taken advantage of those situations.
What's wrong with women collaborators being punished? Its the same as a man being a coward and refusing to fight. It's traitorous.
God Bless the Innocent Victims.💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️
Isn't it weird that none of those thousands of gods people always talk about, are ever there the moment people are being slaughtered?
It's almost like they don't exist, huh?
While the royal family had fled to England, the ladies of Zeeland found the well-dressed and good-looking German soldiers a treat and sometimes walked around unarmed in Zeeland until 1942. As punishment, after the war you were shaved by men who did not show themselves during the entire war and the royal family came back to collect money. Hypocrisy of the highest order
I don't think they were sleeping.
Horrific torture is what the Nazi's did to the Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Soviets ect. What these women got was mild justice served on them! They should consider themselves lucky to have lived at all after the Nazi's defeat!
- For how long can you repeat 3 sentences?
- Yes.
"Horizontal collaboration with the enemy" interesting phrase
This is brutality as they were forced to do what they did and yet they were tortured by their own ppl! Very sad to see such horrific act up on women for just they were with Germans . A woman is always a woman specially at that time helpless so what would u do if u were in same situation ?
Men can take things to survive, use strength !
Women have to rely more on " less forceful ways"
Never judge a person untill you walk in their shoes ?somthing like that !lol
How can men "use strength" to survive?
@@itskarl7575 many ways ! Hit you on head and take !, use weapon to take !,fight so on !
@@smckay6438 Do you know that most _victims_ of muggings are men?
Such a compassionate people.
Mate, you have no clue what the French went through during the occupation...
What would you expect, for them to give these women big hugs and a kiss on both cheeks ?
I am not in a position to judge anyone involved here, nor do I wish to. Non consentual sex is another issue altogether. 😑
I have no sympathy for the women who opened their legs willingly for thr enemy. Common trash.
Maybe they even fell in love. Is this a crime? They were young and wanted a normal life!
Sleeping with the enemy? Why should they let them get away with that ?
Very few were balanced true relationships. From the images shown of these women after liberation they looked, in my opinion, very low class and rough to say the least. In fact they were mostly uneducated and vulnerable
Are you kidding you are forgetting the heinous inhuman crimes the nazis commited so no there was no excuse they got off lightly extremely lightly
@@biggdogg99848 Are you crazy? Most of these men were normal soldiers who had done service for their fatherland!
@@rudolfschock8492 service is that what you call it a call it insanity
When the men were supposed to protect the women, those very women were sleeping with the enemy. How to accept this betrayal ?
The French men were blown to bits without mercy, but somehow shaving women's head was a greater crime & tragedy !
Blown to bits not a single bomb was droped in Paris France decleard war first and Germany sent Hitlers succedor to ask for peace they gave them every opurtunity to end it.
The ones that got their heads shaved are lucky to be breathing
So sad. France was such a cowardly nation during the the war and to take out their collective frustration on women who were mearly trying to survive a most horrific time. Shame on France.
One of the children born to the German occupiers was the one of the female singer in ABBA.
Sleeping with the enemy who invaded and occupied your country count as treason. These women are lucky they only get a free haircut as punishment
Those women who were employed by the Japanese government as "comfort women" were paid very well. They were paid more than lieutenants in the army at that time.
They beat up the women but did not fight the men who occupied their country
Once again, the same boring ignorant comments. For your information, 100,000 French soldiers had been killed in the 6 weeks of battle of France in May-June 1940, with 156,000 Nazi casualties. Dead, wounded, missing. It was the French who covered the Dunkirk evacuation, by slowing down the Nazi assault on the city for 10 days.
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For your information, this kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world.
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Some Dutch and German samples here :
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you never sleep with the enemy.
It should also not be forgotten that among these women there were also some who slept with German soldiers - preferably officers - but were actually spies for the resistance. Resistance members soon realized that this was a perfect way to obtain valuable information. These German soldiers sometimes let things slip of their mouth or left files lying around in a drunken stupor or when they slept with their allegedly collaborating mistress (who was awake and seized the opportunity to look at papers). But it was dangerous what these girls did! Both if they were caught by the Germans or, at the liberation, were regarded as collaborators. Well, I think most of these "James Bond" ladies were safe among resistance fighters when liberation came into view and their job during the war was also clearly announced after the war so that everyone knew who they really were. But still I wonder if that was the case for all these female spies?!
Most of these women actually slept with the Germans soldiers.
But we like to talk about it as if it was just a liny percentage of the accused...
Anything to justify it .
So now they're " brave " and " misunderstood " ?
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@@lodewijkvandoornik3844 Most women who slept with German soldiers were opportunists who tried to get as much out of it as possible for themselves. Only here and there were some women who actually worked for the resistance. Those girls did extremely dangerous work. That's all I wanted to say!
@@justinsidervag8008 Where did I write that? I am only talking about the few women who worked as spies and tried to obtain information that way. Yet during the liberation some of these women were seen as collaborators by the people who suddenly presented themselves as so called "resistance fighters". I'm not trying to justify anything... so don't be such a smartass!
The majority of French cheering crowds were actively collaborative with the Germans up until the point that the tide turned in the allies favour, with a large portion of the country supportive of the Vichy government.
This is well documented.
So basically they switched sides then when the Germans were losing, they Switched back!!
SAd...
Cus Germany liberated them from jews
Exactly, the people at the front of the line to get the collaborators did it so no one did it to them, that is what cowardice is all about. I also note that while the Maqui had a lot of trouble recruiting for most of the war, their numbers swelled to near 100% by the middle of '45.
@@cardboardcapeii4286jew hater vomiting his usual hate on TH-cam lol
it's absolut true !!!many french colaborate with nazis ,starting with the government of Vichy ..French..POLICE FIRST !!! @@brettbuck7362
And all the soldiers who raped women in WW2?....Double standards which I fear still exist. Thank you for an important social documentary.
When the Russians liberated the concentration camps they raped the women. Makes me so sick that the women still weren't free.
You'd know
France of all places , the whole country was a collaboration ! I wonder if Coco Chanel had her head shaved ?
Here is a factoid:
I read a book called "Hellstorm:The Death of Nazi Germany 1944-1947". It was stated that approximately 2 million German women were raped by Russian soldiers once they invaded Germany and the war was won. Young girls to old women were raped repeatedly everyday to the point that some women committed suicide. It's a part of war that no one seems to talk about.
Arrêtes, j'ai les larmes aux yeux.
@@evaharvey1094 Wow ! Toute une réaction. Pauvres petites. Une fois en poste. Elles ont été libre de leur agissement.
@@bonjourtoi3894 Why comment on @nycrudeboy4753's comment as well as mine when you fail to understand that we are talking about r*pe and its atrocities. We're not talking about wars, we're not talking about allies or enemies, and who was on which side, we're talking about r*pe, the act itself, about r*ping, for whatever reasons, and the consequences of that horrible act.
And I repeat, because apparently I have to, no one deserves to be r*ped.
And to not be able to understand this, your IQ must not be very high.
So please refrain from commenting, you would be doing a service to all the r*pe victims in the world.
Pourquoi commenter le commentaire de @nycrudeboy4753 ainsi que le mien quand vous ne parvenez pas à comprendre que nous parlons de vi*l et de ses atrocités.
Nous ne parlons pas de guerres, nous ne parlons pas d’alliés ou d’ennemis, et qui était de quel côté, nous parlons de vi*l, de l'acte en lui-même, du fait de vi*ler, quelles que soient les raisons, et des conséquences de cet horrible acte.
Et je le répète, parce qu'apparemment il le faut, personne ne mérite d'être vi*lé.
Et pour ne pas arriver à comprendre cela, votre QI ne doit pas être très élevé.
Alors abstenez-vous de commenter, vous rendriez service à toutes les victimes de vi*l qui existent dans le monde.
In relation to what the Germans did both in Russia and in other countries to women and children this was nothing
@@tasosvogiatzis3214 No, the allied committed a genocide, planned in Bletchley, on germans after war. Look up William Toel, an maerican citizien who revealed that the last years.
So the Frenchies couldn't beat the German Army in the field and four years latter they take it out on the ladies.
So the French has been based on the battlefield for like 1000 years, and the first time the weren't, ladies are like: okay, bye!
It was not fair for those ladies. It had to be worst...
Many of these resistance “fighters” became members of the resistance after the Germans left.
Very true that. My father who was in France from D Day on said none of the allied forces trusted the FFI as they changed sides at the hint of an allied withdrawal. He was shot at by the French numerous times. They were very brave in victory.
It’s a shame the French were not keen to actually fight the Germans.
There is human cruelty everywhere, it will NEVER go away! It’s all around us, it’s up to us humans how we handle it.
Seems like chopping off the hair of someone who gave aid and comfort to the invaders was a rather mild way to "handle" it. You appear to be making victims of the perpetrators. You need to examine some of the horrific things these invaders did to the civilians of the countries they invaded. .If you want nightmares, find some videos of those
@@JasonCoffman-xu5ksso how is it the kids fault
Interesting how society applies the term BASTARD to a child who had no say as to whom their parents would be, and son- of- a- bitch to a child whose mother was unable to control them when their actions were NOT those of the mother.
@@JasonCoffman-xu5kslmao exactly. Male collaborators were lynched, mobbed and executed. At least most of these women got to live
“Horizontal collaboration”. That’s a new one.
Gonna try that line on the wife. Wish me luck.
Not really.
A new term, but not a new concept.
My old man told me about this, and that U.S. Soldiers were not allowed to interfere. His brother was a Sgt. in the 26th YD who spoke French, Italian, and some German. They were at this one border town where things (similar to the video above) were getting out of hand and this teenaged girl was begging for them to stop. So my uncle spoke up to his CO and the Marquis ringleader overheard him and mocked my uncle, because he thought he wouldn't understand French. So my uncle answered him, in French "that he didn't come to France to make War on little girls, and if they had been that brave in 1940, he wouldn't of had to" Marquis guy swung on my uncle, so he broke Frenchy's jaw with his brass knuckles. A scuffle ensued, and my uncle got reprimanded by his CO, who later told him he didn't like it either, but they would've just waited for the Americans to leave....My uncle made it through the Bulge, into Czech where the Yankee Division Liberated Gusen Camp. My dad wasn't one for tall tales, but I wonder if there would be some way to verify the story?
Your uncle sounds like a bad ass, they don’t make them like that anymore
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My older brother used to say that they were all tough as nails, as they all survived the War - places like Tarawa, Saipan, and The ETO - but they were all good people. That particular uncle also stepped on a frozen landmine in Belgium and fought all the way to Gusen concentration camp, so I can only imagine what he survived, no wonder he became a Priest post War. I remember him as a fun uncle that used to pull Half Dollars out of my "dirty ears" and tell me they belonged in my pocket, and died way too young...
begging them to stop ....who are you referring to? If you going to tell a story make it clear so we can all understand
just proves that women dont love men they only care what you can do for them
So he fights for the right's of the Nazi's and beats down the French man who fought the Nazi's. Your old man must have been a Nazi sympathizer.
"We British have not known invasion and occupation in 900 years and so are perhaps not the best judges." Indeed. That also applies to most, if not all, of the people posting here.
Treating the children that were the result of those relationships poorly is just so unfair
I totally agree with you. The children who were born out of these relationships were innocent.
If the women could be proved to have cavorted with the Germans, purely for self promotion. And not for a valid reason of feeding or protecting there families. Then they should have been jailed or even expelled (if possible).
These public beatings and torture by gangs of mainly men and some women. Were acts of cowardice in my opinion.
I can imagine in some parts of France the scenes were similar to the old witch hunting days.
If one person took a fancy to a new hat her neighbour was wearing. The cries of "Collaborateur" would be shouted through the village.
But to be honest, the amount of French who did collaborate with the Nazis. It probably sounded like an echo. Lol
@@reginamoro4269 the children are literally a part of this video? Calm down, what is wrong with you? Just my opinion and that’s it...
@@Fatroose I think it is imprtant to differentiate self promotion from just struggling to survive.
Unfair? This was a horrific war.
@@lesterpittenger5992 Yes? But it wasn’t the children’s fault obviously
I'm sure a load of old scores and petty Jealousies where settled with this as an excuse 🤨 As always a great vid 👍 👏
Of course, lots of this was done by that we call in France "last minute resistance".
I told about this to my grand mother, and she said that at this time there where no fat people.
Their only goal, find food.
Jews ? She was afraid because his boss was hiding some and if the germans found them she will be killed.
Collaboration ? Bastards that betray France.
Épuration ? (purge in english, the french name of theses dark times) The most violent where those who do nothings against the germans. Mens where killed, women "only shaved".
"We are civilised, we don't kill women" ... this was an other time ...
I only give it as a testimony, pls don't judge 😇
Yep. As always, the nasty side of human nature will always 'have its day'!
men treat women as properties, they don't want their properties to be used by others, but they run away like little mice and hide.
Men start wars and women suffer. Men do not start wars to protect women, but to abuse them.