The French couldn't beat the Germans even when they had the most mechanized army in Europe and the vaunted Maginot Line. The Germans went around and reached Paris in 2 months. The French surrendered miles before the Germans even reached their positions. So who did they take their frustrations and humiliations onto? The women who slepted with the Germans who strutted around, going to their nightclubs and cafes, strong and virile, pending freely while the French army shriveled up like a wrinkled scrotal sack in cold water. Many women slept with Germans to feed their families. Some slept with German officers for protection. Some slept with Germans as they saw they would be he better off with the winners than the losers. But to assist in torturing and execution of her fellow Resistance fighters earned her a well-deserved death.
The political schism in the French political and military set-ups was a big problem and it was a tricky situation to negotiate for the Allied High Command. The post-war situation was a source of considerable concern, with fears that communist interests could become influential and effect life in France after peace had been won.
@@songsmith31a Granted, however my comment stands. And, FWIW, god help anyone who might try to democratically elect whatever politician. Just look what the CIA did in Guatemala and Iran.
Exactly - she slept with the enemy, contributed to the Germans, and finally people are starting to point this out. She did this for survival at the expense of how many?
Funny how when it's the rich they tend to skate away from consequences. The fact that people continued to buy her products after the war was sickening. One rule for the rich, another for the poor. I must say this though I'm guilty of buying Boss aftershave and Hugo did his best to make those evil scumbag Nazi's fashionable uniforms.
Never forget that Vichy France was totally on the Nazi side during WW2, even having combat fights with the Allies, but De Gaulle found it "inconvenient" in post WW2 to deal with this issue. Most of these women did what they did to survive and many without choice but with the exception of a few Vichy leaders that aspect of French history goes unpunished and unrecorded. Easier to brutalize a woman than diminish the "glory de Francais" I guess? So before we judge "betrayal" let's not forget how high the betrayal occurred and that NOTHING happened.
Betrayal? Look at France and the rest of Europe now! it is more than evident that De gaulle and the communist resistance betrayed their countrymen and country. If only the French after Dakar and Mers-el-kabir had joined the Christian Germans then Europe may have stood a chance.
Facts are facts and she was killed for collaborating with the nazis against the French Resistance. Thanks for the great history lesson. I learn something new with every video. My Father and several uncles were WWII Veterans. One uncle was killed in France a few months after D-Day.
There were far more collaborators than resisters in occupied France. The French Resistance was largely composed of Stalinist communists who would have joyously collaborated with the Soviets if they had occupied France.
The Vichy government was a socialist left wing group who seized on the moment of the German socialist invasion to get into power . All of them should have been executed after the war but nope they managed to retain much control ! Even taking France full communist . France was not an ally in WW2 but a liability as much as Italy ! History rewrote to avoid the truth and dealing with the socialist in a less then violent brutal way they deserved. Instead USA rebuilt the ungrateful bastards and let them live.
There's a huge hole in this story and it centres around the car Violette was travelling in. How could the car be 'sabotaged' to the point where it broke down right where it could be surrounded by the French resistance?
And how did she have access to the information she allegedly gave to the Nazis? Did every disgraced lesbian sports heroine in France have access to blueprints of the maginot line, and the plans of the Souma tank? Did resistance cells often confide in public figures with know Nazi ties?
Thank s so much for this video, as French national I know the history of my country but you gave us such unknown details concerning the collaboration and the spying the description in detail of several personality and their acts etc..the images of your video are rare , amazing Thank you 🙏 for your good work
She isn’t a scapegoat if she spied for the Germans before the war. I can understand her being angry & bitter after being denied entry to women’s sports, but that’s no excuse to support a very evil and nasty regime like Nazi Germany. And to help the Germans round up resistance fighters or even assist in their torture was totally unacceptable, that’s not being a scapegoat, that’s being a willing participant in vile crimes against her country and individuals therein.
@@cappiece3786In an era before there was any medical treatments for transgender people? Where there wasn't even a coined term for it? You're smoking that pack bro.
@@mikesmith5083 woke Biden world where men think they are women, women think they are furries, prices for everything are skyrocketing, crime is out of control with lib states making laws making it illegal to stop thieves ( cali) and you are obsessing over Trump. Makes perfect sense
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, eventually the people will come to believe it ~ Joseph Goebbels, 1941. You only need to say it once to an American, as long as it was the American government saying it, they'd all believe it.
Odd the French found their pew pew's after the Germans left. In the Marines we had a saying, want to buy a French Army pew pew ? Never been shot, only dropped once.
@@StalinTheMan0fSteelIt's got bugger all to do with the "English". She lived in Paris and the French could have bumped her off any time after the war. They were responsible for their intelligence and reprisals.
@@StalinTheMan0fSteel no he didn't. De Gaulle was who the French listened to, and he hated Churchill, and if you think someone like Coco Chanel was important with all the other shit that was going on with the war your wrong. Churchill had no influence at all.
My grandfather was in the liberation army in the Netherlands. After the war he only cried when talking about the treatment of these young women and the Belsen camp, that he couldn't speak about. He always said that they were only young women who shouldn't have been treated like this. However, the British officers told the troops not to get involved in civilian revenge.
The British troops probably had mixed feelings. Sure the punishments were brutal and I am sure many Brits and Canadians felt a bit uneasy about them, but...... For a start they'd come from a country that had been bombed heavily by the Germans, they probably had friends or relatives who had been killed by Germans and they'd been subjected to five or six years of anti-German propaganda. On top of that they were being told by the locals, who they knew to be the good guys that had suffered under the Germans, that the people being punished deserved. They were traitors and collaborators. Then finally add the knowledge they needed the cooperation of the locals to ensure there was no trouble in their rear areas and large garrisons were not needed. Given all that, one can understand why British and Canadian officers (though probably not Dutch, Polish or Check ones) frequently ordered their men to turn a blind eye to examples of local justice.
The fabulous "Resistance" only numbered about 5,000 people out of population of 41 million........somewhat embarassing in the overall scheme of things.
Couldn’t agree more … the French were extremely hypocritical considering half the country was Vichy France and many French gave up Jews with ease … women were easy targets and paid the ultimate price for the country’s complicity
This number doesn't exist anywhere. To show how stupid this number is. Free French Forces were around 73000 from summer 1940 to 1943.... In summer 1944 regular French Army was to engage 260 000 maquisards from inner France. In summer 1940 no resistance organisation existed in France, so but they were already individuals who acted as resistant. For exemple on November 11th 1940 in Paris alone around 10 000 people mainly students gathered in Place de l'étoile to commemorate the armistice of 1918 and the victory over Germany despite the invader's prevention. In 1943 with the STO it's tens of thousands of French who joined the maquis. More reasonably it's believed 5% of the French were involved in resistance acts on a daily basis from 1940 to 1943. The same amount involved in collaboration from 1940 to 1944.
Also in Denmark we had female swimmers who chose to comped in Germany, but without committing treason. But their carriers became ruined after the war and only very late they became reinstated as the brilliant sportswomen they actually were.
Have you ever heard of Max Federmann? He was a Jewish resistance fighter, and was in Italy, but later moved to the United States. I met him, and would listen to his stories (because he lived in my old home city.)
@@mosin_boi Well, all I know is he was in Germany, his older brother went to China, his father escaped to England. In 1936, he made it into Italy. He executed a spy, and after he married his wife, he came to the United States.
Generally, people betray their country because they feel their country has betrayed them first. I wonder if there's any group of people today who could relate to that sentiment....🤔 She probably didn't give a damn what the Nazi's stood for. All that mattered was "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Judge her as you will -but dont forget to judge yourself just as harshly, first.
Certainly, an interesting point for debate. The UK had a similar e xperience with the Cold War spies recruited by Russia, with the likes of Burgess et al acting against their own country.
I understand she was upset over how she was unfairly treated in sport, but that’s not really a “betrayal” that justifies personally carrying out the torture of your own innocent countrymen.
France has always been a society at war with itself. As an American, I deeply sympathize. The French Left and Right were so divided at the beginning of the War that many Right-wing militias and political parties actively sabotaged France's war effort in 1940 saying, "Better Hitler than Blum [a radical Socialist politician in line to become French President]'. And better than half the aid supplied to the Resistance was used in intercine battles amongst themselves for who would control France after the War. The revenge mobs against 'collaborators' should be looked at in this light. This does nothing to rehabilitate Morris' crimes, however. She was guilty spying for the SD and was a collaborator of the worst kind.
This video does leave a lot of unanswered questions, that must be answered. Otherwise things don't add up. If, before the war she gave the Germans info on the French tank, and the Maginot line, how did she obtain the classified information? Especially if she already was not trusted? It had to have been classified right? If it was public knowledge, then why would they need her? Were there other collaborators in the French government feeding her the info? And even during the war, if she was so hated and mistrusted, how on earth did she obtain so much info on the French underground? I have never heard this story before, so I think the video creator should clarify it.
All speculation on my part, but wouldn't surprise me if she got tank info from people within the motorsport circle, could of been engineers, mechanics, fabricators, etc. who also had professions within the military or associated with businesses that were contracted by it. Again, all speculation, I'd also like to know the actual details. Given the interest in boxing/violence, I imagine the use of coercion was a popular tactic of theirs.
@@OptimalToast Maybe, perhaps the motorsports community would have been on to something classified about the tank. But the Maginot line? Either someone in the government was feeding her classified info, or she was a scapegoat.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 Either is very possible, that's for sure. She's unquestionably an interesting character, would love to learn more about them.
She was a mail runner in WW1 and had access to the information and shared it with the German socialist after WW1 and then in WW2 she joined them to murder torture and steal info.
I'm guessing that Hitler and the Nazis held their noses when dealing with her. They probably thought that she was vile, but also useful in achieving their goals.
Perpetuated by a woman.....look it up. Women are the most dangerous people when it comes to young children and the elderly. It's sick. "More empathetic" my a.....numbers don't lie....
Yeah but they were white freedom fighters taking out their frustration on an already beaten enemy. But brown people killing children in an act of resistance to ongoing oppression is wrong 😡
Thank you, I had never heard of her. It may sound brutal but she didn’t meet as violent end as many whom she had betrayed. Hard to imagine how anyone could turn against their nation ( unless it was a nation like the Nazis) , especially knowing the horror that was going on. Sounds like she liked violence for itself and, perhaps , the war gave her the cover she needed to do what she liked best. Her violent nature would not be permitted in peacetime - one hopes. 👍👍🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Whine about the violence the West causing in Ukraine with their expansions. Or in Libya, In Afghanistan. Kosovo, Vietnam, South America etc. Or the atrocities that are caused everyday of the pure inhuman Tyranny in China with organ harvesting and suppressing human rights in every aspect. It is just pathetic to jump on the Nazis while we are having are global Conspiracies of multiple Nation to create total control over Mankind
...complete fiction ....maybe she did this , maybe she did that , she was murdered as were innocent women and children on hearsay by thugs who were on the side of the paedophile british monarchy
I live in the UK and have turned against my war mongering nation regarding the conflict in Ukraine. Its not that difficult considering the idiots we have in power. Glory to Russia.
I haven’t heard of her either. But apparently the resistance knew who she was maybe she had turned some information over to her colleagues about they are resistant comrades, and there it is, she was a torturing resistance members and pay the price 🤷🏼♂️
Perhaps but Geli had a similar thick face but was alot more feminine, perhaps the interest was to convince her into the lebensborn with her athletic and large build.
Much in this video stated as fact but for which there is no actual evidence, just accusations long after the event. Claims she could have got plans for the Maginot line and tanks blueprints sound fairly far fetched.
I thank you for producing these videos of historical importance. But why are they all in such soft focus and have such low contrast? As a photographer, I am sure that all military photographers had good equipment and proper film processors. Thank you.
Also, whether she deserved it or not, her killers clearly had no chill, which makes her execution ruthless regardless. And given that she was only betraying France (and who gives a flying f- about that miserable country anyway?), it’s pretty debatable whether she deserved anything less than hearty congratulations.
There were a lot of people in France who accepted, assisted or collaborated with the Nazi or Vichy regimes. Many right wing French were considered 5 columnists who suported the Nazi ideology prior to the outbreak of the war. There was even a few in Britain. Her direct action went above and beyond acceptance, assistance and collaboration. She actively acted against other French people. No tears for her. The children were innocent victims, It takes a lot of hate to justify killing of children. Not the resistance proudest moment.
Wake the fuck up . They were LEFT WING socialist . Yes they had collaborators in USA as well over 30,000 socialist in Nazi uniforms marched to Yankee stadium just before WW2 started for USA ! New York still a leftist state ! UK had a leftist movement as well who were pro Nazi , just like the IRA . Today these same leftist are working hand in hand to take over the world and erasing history or twisting it to say right wing when they should be sayin left wing. The anti capitalist movement depends on this lie.
Dutch did not like their collaborators either. I will say the US troops did not feel the French gave a hoot about them and in turn the feeling became mutual.
Women quite often admire the winners. A women from Irak told me that she dreamed about strong blond men. The German soldiers that did stay in Paris were young, strong, well dressed, proud better paid than the normal French population. Thus there were an awful lot of relations, baby`s and marriages. It happened as well when US troops occupied Germany. It is jealousness and envy that made them shave, beat, kill these women.
@@brianperry My gran dad survived all six years. He told me not a day past that he did not think of running far and hard from the guns that obliterated France. User-what ever do not have a cooking clue what he/she is talking about.
I've noticed a lot of content dealing with the French female collaborators and what they were subjected to after the war. What happened to male collaborators? I assume pretty much the same sort of thing, but it doesn't seem to be popularized as much as the 'ugly circus".
They were shot , except for the Vichy government who just took France full on communist after a few years becasue one did not kill political leaders back then. Something we must learn to do this time around if lucky enough to beat the socialist take over of the world.
Violette Morris wasn't charged with 'Murder', she was charged with 'Homicide' - Murder is the deliberate act of killing someone with 'malice and forethought'. Homicide, however can involve the killing of an individual, either by accident, negligence or self defence. There's little evidence she pro-actively collaborated - sure, she black marketeered, ran a garage that happened to service vehicles for the Luftwaffe - but these were activities she was already engaged in. And as for the allegations of espionage and torture, there's absolutely no evidence. The only source for this allegation is author Raymond Ruffin, who made a nice living out of writing about the resistance. Given she was essentially blacklisted, following the 1930 trail to sue the FFSF (the French Womens Sports Federation) and her outburst about the people becoming slaves and her refusal to become one, she would have had less opportunity to gain access to tank designs or the plans of the Maginot line than just about anyone else.
It's tempting to think that "Morris" was an accidental mistranslation of "Maurice", but in fact "Morris" was her surname. It's not a common French surname, but it does exist. Both versions have Latin roots, of course, so one would expect that. Interestingly, on September 10th 1944, reporting Morris' death, the Telegraph and the Guardian referred to her as a "Nazi collaborator" in their stories, but The Times was more circumspect and just gave her the epithet "French racing driver".
Very interesting, informative and well-researched. However, and please don't be offended, I find your delivery hard to listen to. Perhaps work on where to use pauses (i.e commas in text) and, even more importantly, where not to e.g. "...she would meet a brutal and bloody end... alongside others...who were suspected of collaborating with the Nazis... with her body and car riddled in bullets..." reads much better as: "...she would meet a brutal and bloody end, along WITH others who were suspected of collaborating with the Nazis, with her body and car riddled WITH bullets..." Again, this is meant in the spriti of constructive criticism, and I've heard and seen professional broadcasters do this too, but I think mastering this aspect would take your videos to the next level. This is one of those times where I regret the lack of an feature on TH-cam for contacting content creators directly. I do hope you will appreciate the spirit in which this comment is writen.
If they were true collaborators I find it hard to feel sympathy for them they are traitors to thier own country and could have cost many lives, the local people know who they are they lived there and knew who the collaborator's were so it's thier justice and it's a bad crime so be it
The best one was from General De Gaule, when he organised a march down the shaunes de leigha, when He disobeyed orders to liberate Paris. He turned round and seeing the amount of French resistance fighters in the crowd said, if we had this many fighters how come we didn't defeat the German garrison there.
Yet Eisenhower is said to have considered the worth of the resistance to have been equivalent to 10-15 divisions around the time of the d-day landings.
It's a shame that these females either had no choice to survive during a war many rapped and murdered or forced into prostitution or a single parent for many reason and those very brave men who did this to them did they fight for the resistance l would think not. It's amazing what a person will do to survive especially if they have a child, l could under stand if they betrayed other's but for some it was the only way to survive being a female friend of a German Soldier in a lot of cases stop her from being attacked by another German again the things you will do to survive you don't know until you are put in that position yourself as you could be accused and shot.
@@lil_old_man202 That's a bullies argument, for sure! God gave us judgement to be able to DISCERN right from wrong. If we follow your logic...there's no way to know if an action is right or wrong because it's using judgement. It's ridiculous when a Christian uses that poor logic...even the Bible says we'll be judging angels.
What a pity to read what you wrote.... Who are you to know exactly what she did or not ? What do you know about French history ? Who are you to write she received an "appropriate punishment" ? Probably she has been killed by mistake, at the place of another real collabo...
popular culture would have you believe that the whole of France was in arms against the Germans, the reality was France washed its hands of its national guilt by blaming and victimizing the easiest scapegoats. the girls and woman. If as popular culture would have us believe that France was in arms against occupation the axis powers would have required a greater number of troops in place to counter this resistance, it is quietly forgotten than the French were complicit in the deportation of Jews and other 'undesirables' to concentration camps, and also the thousands of volunteers that joined the axis armies
You have been awarded the "Armchair Resistance Award" of 2023 Stop judging the people from the past and keep your moral judgment of 2023 for yourself. Open some history books to get educated. You have no idea what the french went through during the second world war.
@@sebastiendine4834 well it may be hard for you to see the truth, and easier to believe the shonky history you want to , but your own leader said himself after the liberation of Paris that if all the resistance who were suddenly running around the streets then had been fighting there would have needed to be an invasion, and for your information i have been studying history for over fifty years, but not with blinkers on, i suggest you stop and look at the facts objectively
@@jondobbie5401 There are facts (what History is made of) and opinions. You are mixing both. This kind of assumptions about what the french should have done or not, in order to achieve this or that is not history. If you want to play that game then ask this question to yourself. This is summer 1940, you are a french father with kids and a wife you have to take care of, your country has lost the war, you are either prisoner of war or you have been recently freed and sent back to your family. What are you doing ? Do you keep fighting? There aren't any organized resistance group yet. Or do you stay under the radar (wait and see ) ? Do you want to risk your life and everything you have to fight the Germans? No, most (90%) of the french stayed under the radar, some collaborated, some entered various resistance groups within 2-3 years (between 100 000 to 200 000 resistant fighters of all age were killed). Don't tell me that you would have fought the germans right after the defeat!!! You are no better than the french from a moral stance. PS. Citing one of our leader doesn't prove anything.
@@sebastiendine4834 making personal attacks and ranting and raving is the first sign that you have no arguement, and no history is only facts, not opionion, simple fact , how many factory workers had their heads shaved because they built the engines at the Rhone factory ?How many of the tens of thousands of men who willingly joined the German army where made an example of, i could go on but i wont , the fact remain that girls who were the easiest target were used to cleanse the national soul, it maybe just a little too uncomfortable for you, but the facts are there, just need to open your mind, enjoy the rest of your , take a trip to the library , or ask the right questions on the internet, you may liberate your mind from your preconceive notions , im not going to reply to you again, i dont need to say things again, smell the coffee, wake up
I don't make personal attacks. Before judging people from the past imagine being in their feet first. I am just fed up with people being so quick at simplifying history and categorizing an entire country at being good, bad etc. This is ridiculous Yes these women were easy targets but affirming that it was for cleansing some national soul is stupid. You cannot prove that. You are overthinking and clearly leaving the History field . It was mostly due to the group effect, the excitation of the liberation, the accumulated anger against the enemy. These are more plausible and simpler explanations. I can also list thousands of heroic facts about the french during the 2nd world war. These will just be facts along with the facts you listed, no more no less. @@jondobbie5401
Probably the way she was treated by the bureaucracy and other organizations over the years made her bitter towards her own country. As she was already collaborating, it would have been the icing on the cake when France rapidly surrendered at the outbreak of hostilities. It's just speculation on my part of course or it could be that the Nazi's where really good at "Smoozing"
Indeed! Not only were France’s colonial Arab, Amazigh, and African soldiers better in every respect, they literally were the backbone of Free French armies in WW2. Let’s not forget that even after France ravaged Africa with colonialism, it was Arab, Amazigh, and African soldiers who helped save her in the First World War, and who definitively saved her honor in the Second World War. Never let Frenchmen of European stock forget that while France was mired in Vichy collaborationism and Frenchmen were volunteering for the German SS, more than 60% of the Free French troops who achieved victory for the French Flag in France and Italy were Muslims of Arab, Amazigh, and African stock. It is they who saved France and her honor on the battlefields.
I have my doubts, as this is just another Dreyfus episode, French people are very good at this. She was a sportive and delivered the Maginot plans... Sorry, but no way for any usual outside person, even a sportive, to have access to such of info without will or dumbness in the French part... And by the way, remember Sourcouf. French did not really want to be part of the war... de Gaulle sit uselessly in London for 2 years as the English thought he is no use... if you ask me, Russia won the war, as 130 years early in the Napoleonic wars...
What happened to all the French men who did the same? What about the French soldiers who threw down their weapons without firing a round? It is much more understanding of the women who collaborated than the men!! They had to eat! They had to feed their children! The men just tossed their rifles down and surrendered!!
60,000 killed and 120,000 wounded on the french side during the Battle of France in just 6 weeks. That wasn't an easy fight for Germany and its allies. Please have a look at the casualties and losses on both sides before commenting. Please have some respect for the french soldiers who fought and lost their lives. The vast majority of them did fight and never threw away their weapons until they were given the order to do so from the top. By the way, many british people are alive today because some french soldiers died protecting their ancestor retreat in Dunkirk. It means that the British army also lost against Germany in 1940 in continental Europe !!!
Women live in a mans world, like it or not, and have to survive as best they can. No-one knows how they would behave in such terrible circumstances. It it too easy to condemn other people when one is safe and snug.
What some French men did to these poor women, I wonder if they were as courageous against the Germans... You have to understand that some of these women were just in love with a German soldier. Just because of that they were considered as collaborators!
If someone fall in love with a beautiful ISIS warrior and marry him or have sex with him while he is acting against your country you wouldn t consider him or her as a traitor ?
@@ptommo1543 The resistance investigated her after the war, but could not determine if she collaborated with the Nazis. However research showed that she was a Nazi spy but was never prosecuted for her involvement.
The "Carlingue" was NOT an office responsible to collect goods in France for the German State. The "Carlingue", a nickname by the way, was the so-called "french Gestapo". More precisely, the organization regrouping the french auxiliaries to the Gestapo. A bunch of Gestapo wanabees who were very useful to the nazis but who where probably never really considered real Gestapo members by them. They were not "at times arresting and torturing people"!!!! This kind of secret/political police activity was their main activity. And they also were responsible for organizing "counter-insurgency" units to go a fight pockets of armed Résistance units in France. The "Carlingue" was mainly composed of very shady characters, including gangsters basically, and they were indeed involved in the thriving black market in german-occupied France, for their own interests.
By the Associated Press dated 5 September 1944: 24 August 1944, German Gestapo and Milice Française take 87 male prisoners, of whom 50 were Jews, from a prison in Lyon to a house. There they were tortured by having nails driven into their hands, feet, and chins. Then they were shot. The wounded, of whom there were many, were locked inside the house. The house was then dynamited. Whatever punishment was meted out to these women who slept with German soldiers, Gestapo, and Milice was earned.
These women are not to blame for the barbarity of the nazi regime. Most of these women were terrorised and complied out of fear. Lots of them were just teenagers and women looking after their children alone. To rebuff a gestapo male would almost certainly have been a death sentence.
Shell old company not only sold petrol to both sides, for a profit of course, my father said they had phone communications the entire time. They even made synthetic fuel for the Germans. Business is Business.
Apart from the moral issue about her role in the war, this woman was really remarkable in many ways and everything about her is very uncommon, specially at the time she lived in. She was French but her surname was kind of english one, she was a successful participant in many different sports, some of wich completely different from the others, including motorsports, and she smoked a lot, she was also an homossexual woman, a kind of a spy and collaborater. And also she died the same way that Boonie Parker did. That's a lot for just 51 years.
Who can decide what she deserved ? You ? You, who doesn't know anything about her and what she has done, or not done ? Upon a ten minutes film ? Pfffffff.......... Pathetic.
The French couldn't beat the Germans even when they had the most mechanized army in Europe and the vaunted Maginot Line. The Germans went around and reached Paris in 2 months. The French surrendered miles before the Germans even reached their positions. So who did they take their frustrations and humiliations onto? The women who slepted with the Germans who strutted around, going to their nightclubs and cafes, strong and virile, pending freely while the French army shriveled up like a wrinkled scrotal sack in cold water. Many women slept with Germans to feed their families. Some slept with German officers for protection. Some slept with Germans as they saw they would be he better off with the winners than the losers.
But to assist in torturing and execution of her fellow Resistance fighters earned her a well-deserved death.
Yeah, it's hard to not notice that the French didn't really mind the occupation all that much.
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Wtf is this take she's literally a nazi informant and torturer. How is she a scapegoat?
My grandmother was one who had her head shaven and she was let go(excommunicated) instead of executed, because she came from the high society.
How convenient for the French to have a scapegoat to point the finger at, so they could avoid the big question about overall national collaboration.
exactly
Not a scape goat a fucking traitor along with the entire Vichy government.
President Pompaydu was working in Vijgy France when occupied sending Jews to concentration camps.
The political schism in the French political and military set-ups was a big problem and it was a tricky
situation to negotiate for the Allied High Command. The post-war situation was a source of
considerable concern, with fears that communist interests could become influential and effect
life in France after peace had been won.
@@songsmith31a Granted, however my comment stands. And, FWIW, god help anyone who might try to democratically elect whatever politician. Just look what the CIA did in Guatemala and Iran.
Coco Chanel didn't seem to face any consequences for her "horizontal collaboration."
HANDS OFF THE ELITES PAL! .......lol
Exactly - she slept with the enemy, contributed to the Germans, and finally people are starting to point this out.
She did this for survival at the expense of how many?
Funny how when it's the rich they tend to skate away from consequences. The fact that people continued to buy her products after the war was sickening. One rule for the rich, another for the poor. I must say this though I'm guilty of buying Boss aftershave and Hugo did his best to make those evil scumbag Nazi's fashionable uniforms.
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@rg20322 She stole the perfume (Chanel 5) from a Jewish man.
Never forget that Vichy France was totally on the Nazi side during WW2, even having combat fights with the Allies, but De Gaulle found it "inconvenient" in post WW2 to deal with this issue. Most of these women did what they did to survive and many without choice but with the exception of a few Vichy leaders that aspect of French history goes unpunished and unrecorded. Easier to brutalize a woman than diminish the "glory de Francais" I guess? So before we judge "betrayal" let's not forget how high the betrayal occurred and that NOTHING happened.
when you consider that the french police helped the nazis to round up jews,the women were the easy targets
onore e gloria per Violetta Morris
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President Pompidou was working in vichy France, sending Jews to the camps only don't tell anyone.
Betrayal? Look at France and the rest of Europe now! it is more than evident that De gaulle and the communist resistance betrayed their countrymen and country. If only the French after Dakar and Mers-el-kabir had joined the Christian Germans then Europe may have stood a chance.
Facts are facts and she was killed for collaborating with the nazis against the French Resistance. Thanks for the great history lesson. I learn something new with every video. My Father and several uncles were WWII Veterans. One uncle was killed in France a few months after D-Day.
funny. the resistance could have excecuted halve the population, Hahaha they collaborating in the Vichy goverment...
Facts are statements written by the winning side
made in Japan
now
thanks loser
you lost the war anyway
There were far more collaborators than resisters in occupied France. The French Resistance was largely composed of Stalinist communists who would have joyously collaborated with the Soviets if they had occupied France.
The Vichy government was a socialist left wing group who seized on the moment of the German socialist invasion to get into power . All of them should have been executed after the war but nope they managed to retain much control ! Even taking France full communist . France was not an ally in WW2 but a liability as much as Italy ! History rewrote to avoid the truth and dealing with the socialist in a less then violent brutal way they deserved. Instead USA rebuilt the ungrateful bastards and let them live.
There's a huge hole in this story and it centres around the car Violette was travelling in. How could the car be 'sabotaged' to the point where it broke down right where it could be surrounded by the French resistance?
And how did she have access to the information she allegedly gave to the Nazis? Did every disgraced lesbian sports heroine in France have access to blueprints of the maginot line, and the plans of the Souma tank? Did resistance cells often confide in public figures with know Nazi ties?
Thank s so much for this video, as French national I know the history of my country but you gave us such unknown details concerning the collaboration and the spying the description in detail of several personality and their acts etc..the images of your video are rare , amazing Thank you 🙏 for your good work
She isn’t a scapegoat if she spied for the Germans before the war. I can understand her being angry & bitter after being denied entry to women’s sports, but that’s no excuse to support a very evil and nasty regime like Nazi Germany. And to help the Germans round up resistance fighters or even assist in their torture was totally unacceptable, that’s not being a scapegoat, that’s being a willing participant in vile crimes against her country and individuals therein.
I AGREE 👍 WITH YOU. THIS IS NOT EXCUSE BETRAYING YOUR OWN COUNTRY
She was a man
@@cappiece3786In an era before there was any medical treatments for transgender people? Where there wasn't even a coined term for it? You're smoking that pack bro.
She would fit right in with Anti-fa Today
@@zuckfacegobbels4527 I often call ATIFA, the Fascists pretending to be anti fascists.
I feel like they could have got their justice without machine-gunning a car full of children in the process.
Yup, today if this was done by brown people they'd get called dirty terrorists.
War is hell.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire
Sounds like today
@@alfavulcan4518totally… just look at Trump world!
@@mikesmith5083 woke Biden world where men think they are women, women think they are furries, prices for everything are skyrocketing, crime is out of control with lib states making laws making it illegal to stop thieves ( cali) and you are obsessing over Trump. Makes perfect sense
Aint nothing changed. @@alfavulcan4518
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, eventually the people will come to believe it ~ Joseph Goebbels, 1941. You only need to say it once to an American, as long as it was the American government saying it, they'd all believe it.
Odd the French found their pew pew's after the Germans left. In the Marines we had a saying, want to buy a French Army pew pew ? Never been shot, only dropped once.
I am sure, Violette wore the pants in the family.
love the content ... but dude, the rhythm of your delivery is bloody infuriating
It's like listening to a capybara trying to sing an opera 😂
I know, dreary, poor vocabulary, incoherent structure and that god-awful monotonous drone of a voice!
@@tolkkeen : You kinda nailed it, ngl.
Is it unfair to say, “yet Coco Chanel got away Scot free”
Coco had friends in English high society, including Churchill's family.
@@StalinTheMan0fSteelIt's got bugger all to do with the "English". She lived in Paris and the French could have bumped her off any time after the war. They were responsible for their intelligence and reprisals.
@@Clem_Fandango11 Churchill had a lot of influence with the French.
@@StalinTheMan0fSteel no he didn't. De Gaulle was who the French listened to, and he hated Churchill, and if you think someone like Coco Chanel was important with all the other shit that was going on with the war your wrong. Churchill had no influence at all.
@@Clem_Fandango11 LOL! You need to go do some reading!
My grandfather was in the liberation army in the Netherlands. After the war he only cried when talking about the treatment of these young women and the Belsen camp, that he couldn't speak about. He always said that they were only young women who shouldn't have been treated like this. However, the British officers told the troops not to get involved in civilian revenge.
Liar.
Those women showed the true nature of women and how they will easily betray people or even their country if it benefited them directly.
@@kevinhughes720 liar?
The British troops probably had mixed feelings. Sure the punishments were brutal and I am sure many Brits and Canadians felt a bit uneasy about them, but......
For a start they'd come from a country that had been bombed heavily by the Germans, they probably had friends or relatives who had been killed by Germans and they'd been subjected to five or six years of anti-German propaganda. On top of that they were being told by the locals, who they knew to be the good guys that had suffered under the Germans, that the people being punished deserved. They were traitors and collaborators. Then finally add the knowledge they needed the cooperation of the locals to ensure there was no trouble in their rear areas and large garrisons were not needed.
Given all that, one can understand why British and Canadian officers (though probably not Dutch, Polish or Check ones) frequently ordered their men to turn a blind eye to examples of local justice.
What do you mean by "Liberation Army"?
The fabulous "Resistance" only numbered about 5,000 people out of population of 41 million........somewhat embarassing in the overall scheme of things.
Couldn’t agree more … the French were extremely hypocritical considering half the country was Vichy France and many French gave up Jews with ease … women were easy targets and paid the ultimate price for the country’s complicity
@@Panda-gs5lt Well said...!!
Funny how the resistance numbers suddenly increased after 6th June 1944 !
This number doesn't exist anywhere.
To show how stupid this number is.
Free French Forces were around 73000 from summer 1940 to 1943....
In summer 1944 regular French Army was to engage 260 000 maquisards from inner France.
In summer 1940 no resistance organisation existed in France, so but they were already individuals who acted as resistant.
For exemple on November 11th 1940 in Paris alone around 10 000 people mainly students gathered in Place de l'étoile to commemorate the armistice of 1918 and the victory over Germany despite the invader's prevention.
In 1943 with the STO it's tens of thousands of French who joined the maquis.
More reasonably it's believed 5% of the French were involved in resistance acts on a daily basis from 1940 to 1943.
The same amount involved in collaboration from 1940 to 1944.
@@BFOP15 Shall we say resistance activity increased after 6/6/44 , which could mean an increase in numbers engaged .
She sounds pretty based in her own messed up way. But most importantly, to borrow Borat’s idiom, she was “strong on plow”.
Wizard sleeves, hehehe
@@sid2112 : Greetings, fellow man of culture.
@@samy7013 *tips hat*
"How do i know this will not happen with the car"
😂😂
Sacha Baron Cohen, has turned Woke
She was half Arab. This explains her appearance, her ideologies, and her lack of loyalty to France.
No wonder she was so based.
Also in Denmark we had female swimmers who chose to comped in Germany, but without committing treason. But their carriers became ruined after the war and only very late they became reinstated as the brilliant sportswomen they actually were.
She looks like she could play defensive tackle for the Cowboys.
Yes, and would have been hired as a line backer had she not been terminated.
... and she'd be good at it.
Nice bewbs tho
Have you ever heard of Max Federmann? He was a Jewish resistance fighter, and was in Italy, but later moved to the United States. I met him, and would listen to his stories (because he lived in my old home city.)
Please tell me some of his stories.
@@mosin_boi Well, all I know is he was in Germany, his older brother went to China, his father escaped to England. In 1936, he made it into Italy. He executed a spy, and after he married his wife, he came to the United States.
@@anthonycalbillo9376 Did he get thrown into the cage with the eagle and the bear or fall victim to the pedal-powered head bashing machine?
Heard of him but never met him. You are a lucky person to have learned from his wisdom!
@@anthonycalbillo9376was wollte der in Deutschland?
Generally, people betray their country because they feel their country has betrayed them first.
I wonder if there's any group of people today who could relate to that sentiment....🤔
She probably didn't give a damn what the Nazi's stood for. All that mattered was "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Judge her as you will -but dont forget to judge yourself just as harshly, first.
How many people in this country would help an invader of our country? I'd say half .
Lol Russian troll 😅
Get f'd
Certainly, an interesting point for debate. The UK had a similar e xperience with the Cold War spies
recruited by Russia, with the likes of Burgess et al acting against their own country.
I understand she was upset over how she was unfairly treated in sport, but that’s not really a “betrayal” that justifies personally carrying out the torture of your own innocent countrymen.
France has always been a society at war with itself. As an American, I deeply sympathize.
The French Left and Right were so divided at the beginning of the War that many Right-wing militias and political parties actively sabotaged France's war effort in 1940 saying, "Better Hitler than Blum [a radical Socialist politician in line to become French President]'. And better than half the aid supplied to the Resistance was used in intercine battles amongst themselves for who would control France after the War. The revenge mobs against 'collaborators' should be looked at in this light.
This does nothing to rehabilitate Morris' crimes, however. She was guilty spying for the SD and was a collaborator of the worst kind.
This video does leave a lot of unanswered questions, that must be answered. Otherwise things don't add up. If, before the war she gave the Germans info on the French tank, and the Maginot line, how did she obtain the classified information? Especially if she already was not trusted? It had to have been classified right? If it was public knowledge, then why would they need her? Were there other collaborators in the French government feeding her the info? And even during the war, if she was so hated and mistrusted, how on earth did she obtain so much info on the French underground? I have never heard this story before, so I think the video creator should clarify it.
All speculation on my part, but wouldn't surprise me if she got tank info from people within the motorsport circle, could of been engineers, mechanics, fabricators, etc. who also had professions within the military or associated with businesses that were contracted by it. Again, all speculation, I'd also like to know the actual details. Given the interest in boxing/violence, I imagine the use of coercion was a popular tactic of theirs.
@@OptimalToast Maybe, perhaps the motorsports community would have been on to something classified about the tank. But the Maginot line? Either someone in the government was feeding her classified info, or she was a scapegoat.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 Either is very possible, that's for sure. She's unquestionably an interesting character, would love to learn more about them.
She was a mail runner in WW1 and had access to the information and shared it with the German socialist after WW1 and then in WW2 she joined them to murder torture and steal info.
Very interesting - thanks
Thank You
Their so much information you bring to our lives in regards to the past.
'Their so much information you.....' FFS did you actually attend at any time?
even the nazis detested this behaviour, but weren't above using those who engage.
History shows that the Nazis weren't above anything.
I'm guessing that Hitler and the Nazis held their noses when dealing with her. They probably thought that she was vile, but also useful in achieving their goals.
It’s a tragedy that innocent children were caught in this deception.
Perpetuated by a woman.....look it up. Women are the most dangerous people when it comes to young children and the elderly. It's sick. "More empathetic" my a.....numbers don't lie....
Yeah but they were white freedom fighters taking out their frustration on an already beaten enemy.
But brown people killing children in an act of resistance to ongoing oppression is wrong 😡
Thank you, I had never heard of her. It may sound brutal but she didn’t meet as violent end as many whom she had betrayed. Hard to imagine how anyone could turn against their nation ( unless it was a nation like the Nazis) , especially knowing the horror that was going on. Sounds like she liked violence for itself and, perhaps , the war gave her the cover she needed to do what she liked best. Her violent nature would not be permitted in peacetime - one hopes. 👍👍🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Whine about the violence the West causing in Ukraine with their expansions. Or in Libya, In Afghanistan. Kosovo, Vietnam, South America etc. Or the atrocities that are caused everyday of the pure inhuman Tyranny in China with organ harvesting and suppressing human rights in every aspect. It is just pathetic to jump on the Nazis while we are having are global Conspiracies of multiple Nation to create total control over Mankind
...complete fiction ....maybe she did this , maybe she did that , she was murdered as were innocent women and children on hearsay by thugs who were on the side of the paedophile british monarchy
I live in the UK and have turned against my war mongering nation regarding the conflict in Ukraine.
Its not that difficult considering the idiots we have in power.
Glory to Russia.
I haven’t heard of her either. But apparently the resistance knew who she was maybe she had turned some information over to her colleagues about they are resistant comrades, and there it is, she was a torturing resistance members and pay the price 🤷🏼♂️
French society should have been kinder to her rather than producing someone who didn't care for her country or people.
No oil painting but huge knockers !!
her face looks like a modern art masterpiece
The surgery she had to fit into race cars was a double mastectomy.
Leaving out the sketchy past, Hitler was interested in her because she looks similar to Geli Rabual
Interesting observation 🤔
Perhaps but Geli had a similar thick face but was alot more feminine, perhaps the interest was to convince her into the lebensborn with her athletic and large build.
Sounds like they did a Bonnie and Clyde on her and the others
Much in this video stated as fact but for which there is no actual evidence, just accusations long after the event.
Claims she could have got plans for the Maginot line and tanks blueprints sound fairly far fetched.
“History” is written by the “victors”.
I thank you for producing these videos of historical importance. But why are they all in such soft focus and have such low contrast? As a photographer, I am sure that all military photographers had good equipment and proper film processors. Thank you.
Sounds like she got the end she deserved. So the ruthless execution title is a bit misleading,
It is *NOT* misleading. Not one person named Ruth was present at the execution.
😉
Also, whether she deserved it or not, her killers clearly had no chill, which makes her execution ruthless regardless. And given that she was only betraying France (and who gives a flying f- about that miserable country anyway?), it’s pretty debatable whether she deserved anything less than hearty congratulations.
@@samy7013 Aw man you were doing good until the end.
@@sid2112 : You win some, you lose some. C’est la vie.
@@samy7013 Oh Samy, that's French...
any photos of her wrestling or info on style
There were a lot of people in France who accepted, assisted or collaborated with the Nazi or Vichy regimes. Many right wing French were considered 5 columnists who suported the Nazi ideology prior to the outbreak of the war. There was even a few in Britain.
Her direct action went above and beyond acceptance, assistance and collaboration. She actively acted against other French people. No tears for her.
The children were innocent victims, It takes a lot of hate to justify killing of children.
Not the resistance proudest moment.
Wake the fuck up . They were LEFT WING socialist . Yes they had collaborators in USA as well over 30,000 socialist in Nazi uniforms marched to Yankee stadium just before WW2 started for USA ! New York still a leftist state ! UK had a leftist movement as well who were pro Nazi , just like the IRA . Today these same leftist are working hand in hand to take over the world and erasing history or twisting it to say right wing when they should be sayin left wing. The anti capitalist movement depends on this lie.
No ruthless here she got exactly what she deserved unlike the ones she betrayed .
Dutch did not like their collaborators either. I will say the US troops did not feel the French gave a hoot about them and in turn the feeling became mutual.
Many Brits feel the same about the French.
@@indy5624Brits ? I don't think. The american point of view about is very biaised by politics.
In for a penny, in for a pound! all collaborators were marked for retribution.
Some English accents are tough to listen to, but this guy's accent is mostly understandable. Interesting story. Thank you.
0:17 the picture is actualy taken in my hometown of Deventer the Netherlands after liberation in april 1945.
But the innocent children had to pay! Hmm, complete honour there then. Peace be unto you.
how many of those who were shaving women's head were of suspicious character, just wanting to make themselves look righteous?
Women quite often admire the winners. A women from Irak told me that she dreamed about strong blond men. The German soldiers that did stay in Paris were young, strong, well dressed, proud better paid than the normal French population. Thus there were an awful lot of relations, baby`s and marriages. It happened as well when US troops occupied Germany.
It is jealousness and envy that made them shave, beat, kill these women.
@holgernarrog962 what BS. Collaborators who worked with rapists and murderers and were treated justly at end of war.
We need to meter out the same for the traitors in the current British government.
No sympathy for traitors
Who were traitors? It's so easy to judge 100 years after. Watch and learn from it!
The French seriously stood against the Germans only when they realised the Nazis are losing. You can't beat this fact.
l wonder how you would get on if your country was overwhelmed….would you be passive or participate in the resistance…..you have no idea have you…
Take a day off from being a Throbber
You don't understand the word facts.
@@brianperry My gran dad survived all six years. He told me not a day past that he did not think of running far and hard from the guns that obliterated France. User-what ever do not have a cooking clue what he/she is talking about.
That's not a fact it's a remark made by someone who knows nothing about the French resistance.
And De Gaulle spent his time in Britain in the arms of Churchill who was the only British person to come out of the war with a fat belly.
Cant blame a gentleman for liking scotch and stogies, after a few, man needs to eat.
I've noticed a lot of content dealing with the French female collaborators and what they were subjected to after the war. What happened to male collaborators? I assume pretty much the same sort of thing, but it doesn't seem to be popularized as much as the 'ugly circus".
They were shot , except for the Vichy government who just took France full on communist after a few years becasue one did not kill political leaders back then. Something we must learn to do this time around if lucky enough to beat the socialist take over of the world.
Violette Morris wasn't charged with 'Murder', she was charged with 'Homicide' - Murder is the deliberate act of killing someone with 'malice and forethought'. Homicide, however can involve the killing of an individual, either by accident, negligence or self defence. There's little evidence she pro-actively collaborated - sure, she black marketeered, ran a garage that happened to service vehicles for the Luftwaffe - but these were activities she was already engaged in. And as for the allegations of espionage and torture, there's absolutely no evidence. The only source for this allegation is author Raymond Ruffin, who made a nice living out of writing about the resistance. Given she was essentially blacklisted, following the 1930 trail to sue the FFSF (the French Womens Sports Federation) and her outburst about the people becoming slaves and her refusal to become one, she would have had less opportunity to gain access to tank designs or the plans of the Maginot line than just about anyone else.
Try varying your pitch as your delivery is monotonous!
The knockers on her lol. You don't see to many women back then with a shape like that.
What's French for "Zaftig?"
@@Riskmangler French: Figure arrondie complète. Full rounded figure. Voluptuous: voluptueuse a well-rounded woman.
@@janiceduke1205 Merci.
Massive. I hear she loved German sausage....
A voluptuous bull dike😳
Sounds like she batted for the other side 😂
Yes, in more ways than one.🥴
It's tempting to think that "Morris" was an accidental mistranslation of "Maurice", but in fact "Morris" was her surname. It's not a common French surname, but it does exist. Both versions have Latin roots, of course, so one would expect that.
Interestingly, on September 10th 1944, reporting Morris' death, the Telegraph and the Guardian referred to her as a "Nazi collaborator" in their stories, but The Times was more circumspect and just gave her the epithet "French racing driver".
Very interesting, informative and well-researched. However, and please don't be offended, I find your delivery hard to listen to. Perhaps work on where to use pauses (i.e commas in text) and, even more importantly, where not to e.g.
"...she would meet a brutal and bloody end... alongside others...who were suspected of collaborating with the Nazis... with her body and car riddled in bullets..."
reads much better as:
"...she would meet a brutal and bloody end, along WITH others who were suspected of collaborating with the Nazis, with her body and car riddled WITH bullets..."
Again, this is meant in the spriti of constructive criticism, and I've heard and seen professional broadcasters do this too, but I think mastering this aspect would take your videos to the next level.
This is one of those times where I regret the lack of an feature on TH-cam for contacting content creators directly. I do hope you will appreciate the spirit in which this comment is writen.
prolly AI voiceovers. Get used to it.
If they were true collaborators I find it hard to feel sympathy for them they are traitors to thier own country and could have cost many lives, the local people know who they are they lived there and knew who the collaborator's were so it's thier justice and it's a bad crime so be it
What a beast!
What a Rack!
The best one was from General De Gaule, when he organised a march down the shaunes de leigha, when He disobeyed orders to liberate Paris.
He turned round and seeing the amount of French resistance fighters in the crowd said, if we had this many fighters how come we didn't defeat the German garrison there.
Indeed. Only seemed to come out with their guns when it was safe to do so.
@wattage2007 that's the French all right.
Yet Eisenhower is said to have considered the worth of the resistance to have been equivalent to 10-15 divisions around the time of the d-day landings.
@juslitor I worked with a guy on the D day advance, they went forward to spot for artillery and when coming back the French had barricaded the road.
@@tonyclough9844"that's the French" ... It seems like you don't know anything about history. France has won more wars than any other nation (1.115).
What a crazy mixed up person... also cruel. Sad.
welp,Im very shallow,I clicked for one reason,I'm a monster :(
Don't you mean two reasons?
Fellow men of culture, unite!
The bullets just bounced off her chest thank you
she had it coming
Those who don,t know, or who have forgotten the past, are doomed to repeat it. [ sad indeed]. 2023 August.
It's a shame that these females either had no choice to survive during a war many rapped and murdered or forced into prostitution or a single parent for many reason and those very brave men who did this to them did they fight for the resistance l would think not.
It's amazing what a person will do to survive especially if they have a child, l could under stand if they betrayed other's but for some it was the only way to survive being a female friend of a German Soldier in a lot of cases stop her from being attacked by another German again the things you will do to survive you don't know until you are put in that position yourself as you could be accused and shot.
This kind of vindictive behavior is typical of populations with rampant collaboration. It is an act of cleansing and repentance.
She may have survived the war If she didn’t always have a bloody cigarette hanging out of her mouth.
She looks sexy smoking!
Sounds like no great loss! At least in those times, traitors were given an appropriate punishment...now...they go completely unpunished.
remember this comment when you face your maker on judgement day and he accuses you of betraying him. judge not, lest you be judged.
@@lil_old_man202 That's a bullies argument, for sure! God gave us judgement to be able to DISCERN right from wrong. If we follow your logic...there's no way to know if an action is right or wrong because it's using judgement. It's ridiculous when a Christian uses that poor logic...even the Bible says we'll be judging angels.
What a pity to read what you wrote.... Who are you to know exactly what she did or not ? What do you know about French history ? Who are you to write she received an "appropriate punishment" ? Probably she has been killed by mistake, at the place of another real collabo...
Like the whole of Europeans governments who've sold us all out to globalisation and fucked us all over for net bullshit zero
She was a traitor, it wasn't ruthless. She got what she deserved.
Ww2 religion you believe in. The 6 guerrillan lie. Germans did NOTHING wrong
Yes sir, Treason is.... 🤔 Hmmm Treason 😲
They also killed the children being with her in the car. This makes it seeming doubtful and irregualar. Evidence has to be proofed.
popular culture would have you believe that the whole of France was in arms against the Germans, the reality was France washed its hands of its national guilt by blaming and victimizing the easiest scapegoats. the girls and woman. If as popular culture would have us believe that France was in arms against occupation the axis powers would have required a greater number of troops in place to counter this resistance, it is quietly forgotten than the French were complicit in the deportation of Jews and other 'undesirables' to concentration camps, and also the thousands of volunteers that joined the axis armies
You have been awarded the "Armchair Resistance Award" of 2023 Stop judging the people from the past and keep your moral judgment of 2023 for yourself. Open some history books to get educated. You have no idea what the french went through during the second world war.
@@sebastiendine4834 well it may be hard for you to see the truth, and easier to believe the shonky history you want to , but your own leader said himself after the liberation of Paris that if all the resistance who were suddenly running around the streets then had been fighting there would have needed to be an invasion, and for your information i have been studying history for over fifty years, but not with blinkers on, i suggest you stop and look at the facts objectively
@@jondobbie5401 There are facts (what History is made of) and opinions. You are mixing both. This kind of assumptions about what the french should have done or not, in order to achieve this or that is not history. If you want to play that game then ask this question to yourself.
This is summer 1940, you are a french father with kids and a wife you have to take care of, your country has lost the war, you are either prisoner of war or you have been recently freed and sent back to your family. What are you doing ? Do you keep fighting? There aren't any organized resistance group yet.
Or do you stay under the radar (wait and see ) ? Do you want to risk your life and everything you have to fight the Germans?
No, most (90%) of the french stayed under the radar, some collaborated, some entered various resistance groups within 2-3 years (between 100 000 to 200 000 resistant fighters of all age were killed).
Don't tell me that you would have fought the germans right after the defeat!!! You are no better than the french from a moral stance.
PS. Citing one of our leader doesn't prove anything.
@@sebastiendine4834 making personal attacks and ranting and raving is the first sign that you have no arguement, and no history is only facts, not opionion, simple fact , how many factory workers had their heads shaved because they built the engines at the Rhone factory ?How many of the tens of thousands of men who willingly joined the German army where made an example of, i could go on but i wont , the fact remain that girls who were the easiest target were used to cleanse the national soul, it maybe just a little too uncomfortable for you, but the facts are there, just need to open your mind, enjoy the rest of your , take a trip to the library , or ask the right questions on the internet, you may liberate your mind from your preconceive notions , im not going to reply to you again, i dont need to say things again, smell the coffee, wake up
I don't make personal attacks. Before judging people from the past imagine being in their feet first. I am just fed up with people being so quick at simplifying history and categorizing an entire country at being good, bad etc. This is ridiculous Yes these women were easy targets but affirming that it was for cleansing some national soul is stupid. You cannot prove that. You are overthinking and clearly leaving the History field . It was mostly due to the group effect, the excitation of the liberation, the accumulated anger against the enemy. These are more plausible and simpler explanations. I can also list thousands of heroic facts about the french during the 2nd world war. These will just be facts along with the facts you listed, no more no less. @@jondobbie5401
The narration doesn’t make me want to continue watching. Oh well.
Probably the way she was treated by the bureaucracy and other organizations over the years made her bitter towards her own country. As she was already collaborating, it would have been the icing on the cake when France rapidly surrendered at the outbreak of hostilities. It's just speculation on my part of course or it could be that the Nazi's where really good at "Smoozing"
MAS36 battle rifle for sale. Never fired! Dropped once!
Actually, it was a Carcano M1891.
If the french men defended their country the women wouldn't have had to sleep with the enemy.
Indeed! Not only were France’s colonial Arab, Amazigh, and African soldiers better in every respect, they literally were the backbone of Free French armies in WW2. Let’s not forget that even after France ravaged Africa with colonialism, it was Arab, Amazigh, and African soldiers who helped save her in the First World War, and who definitively saved her honor in the Second World War. Never let Frenchmen of European stock forget that while France was mired in Vichy collaborationism and Frenchmen were volunteering for the German SS, more than 60% of the Free French troops who achieved victory for the French Flag in France and Italy were Muslims of Arab, Amazigh, and African stock. It is they who saved France and her honor on the battlefields.
I don't know if it's just the accent, how he's speaking or both, but at times I just find it difficult to fully understand what he's saying.
yeah, turning against your own people can have that affect.
Frogs got real brave when the Panzer Grenadiers left,and they rounded up a few Luftwaffe pogos,yeah real brave...
Panzies
I have my doubts, as this is just another Dreyfus episode, French people are very good at this. She was a sportive and delivered the Maginot plans... Sorry, but no way for any usual outside person, even a sportive, to have access to such of info without will or dumbness in the French part... And by the way, remember Sourcouf. French did not really want to be part of the war... de Gaulle sit uselessly in London for 2 years as the English thought he is no use... if you ask me, Russia won the war, as 130 years early in the Napoleonic wars...
For 1 a traitor.. for another a hero...
The 1 who winns writes history...
Who owns history owns the future...
Till all lies fall thru...
Huh? Are you saying the hynea of the gestapo is your hero? lol
Very true.
So your heros are rats who tattle and bring death to there own people? What a sad person you must be...
same fate as Bonnie Parker
''She is a traitor'' It was just an excuse to get rid of people. French and Dutch men killed women that said no to them before the war.
C'est la guerre ( *gallic shoulder shrug*)
What happened to all the French men who did the same? What about the French soldiers who threw down their weapons without firing a round? It is much more understanding of the women who collaborated than the men!! They had to eat! They had to feed their children! The men just tossed their rifles down and surrendered!!
60,000 killed and 120,000 wounded on the french side during the Battle of France in just 6 weeks. That wasn't an easy fight for Germany and its allies. Please have a look at the casualties and losses on both sides before commenting. Please have some respect for the french soldiers who fought and lost their lives. The vast majority of them did fight and never threw away their weapons until they were given the order to do so from the top. By the way, many british people are alive today because some french soldiers died protecting their ancestor retreat in Dunkirk. It means that the British army also lost against Germany in 1940 in continental Europe !!!
Women live in a mans world, like it or not, and have to survive as best they can. No-one knows how they would behave in such terrible circumstances. It it too easy to condemn other people when one is safe and snug.
Si/mp....
What some French men did to these poor women, I wonder if they were as courageous against the Germans...
You have to understand that some of these women were just in love with a German soldier. Just because of that they were considered as collaborators!
If someone fall in love with a beautiful ISIS warrior and marry him or have sex with him while he is acting against your country you wouldn t consider him or her as a traitor ?
I imagine the Germans she stayed with died with smiles on their faces.
I liked the information. What's with the annoyance cadence of the narrator?
The male collaborators were shot...
Funny how Coco Chanel didn’t suffer the same humiliation after being the mistress of 2 high powered germans in France.
And to this day people worship her name n products. :(
@@ptommo1543 The resistance investigated her after the war, but could not determine if she collaborated with the Nazis. However research showed that she was a Nazi spy but was never prosecuted for her involvement.
Traitors get what they deserve.
Not nowadays.
No presumption of innocence until proven guilty? Chilling stuff.
Hypocrisy is in full swing. WW2 paramount
The "Carlingue" was NOT an office responsible to collect goods in France for the German State. The "Carlingue", a nickname by the way, was the so-called "french Gestapo". More precisely, the organization regrouping the french auxiliaries to the Gestapo. A bunch of Gestapo wanabees who were very useful to the nazis but who where probably never really considered real Gestapo members by them.
They were not "at times arresting and torturing people"!!!! This kind of secret/political police activity was their main activity. And they also were responsible for organizing "counter-insurgency" units to go a fight pockets of armed Résistance units in France.
The "Carlingue" was mainly composed of very shady characters, including gangsters basically, and they were indeed involved in the thriving black market in german-occupied France, for their own interests.
Buxom Biach
By the Associated Press dated 5 September 1944:
24 August 1944, German Gestapo and Milice Française take 87 male prisoners, of whom 50 were Jews, from a prison in Lyon to a house. There they were tortured by having nails driven into their hands, feet, and chins. Then they were shot. The wounded, of whom there were many, were locked inside the house. The house was then dynamited.
Whatever punishment was meted out to these women who slept with German soldiers, Gestapo, and Milice was earned.
These women are not to blame for the barbarity of the nazi regime. Most of these women were terrorised and complied out of fear. Lots of them were just teenagers and women looking after their children alone. To rebuff a gestapo male would almost certainly have been a death sentence.
ScoutBaySteelens, das hast du bestimmt von den Propagandisten der Yankees gelesen!
What twisted logic.
she was fit af tho
Unbreakable in all the right ways.
Tiddis..😂
Fit? Don't you mean FAT?
Yup m8 she's fit.
Stop simping
Shell old company not only sold petrol to both sides, for a profit of course, my father said they had phone communications the entire time. They even made synthetic fuel for the Germans. Business is Business.
"The nazis took frances freedom" meanwhile in France you had to have a license to play sports lmao
Apart from the moral issue about her role in the war, this woman was really remarkable in many ways and everything about her is very uncommon, specially at the time she lived in. She was French but her surname was kind of english one, she was a successful participant in many different sports, some of wich completely different from the others, including motorsports, and she smoked a lot, she was also an homossexual woman, a kind of a spy and collaborater. And also she died the same way that Boonie Parker did. That's a lot for just 51 years.
Lesbianism was not illegal in France.
@@fatdaddy1996 Did anybody say it was??
She appears to have gotten what she deserved.
Hope it hurt..
Yes, she Got what she deserved
Who can decide what she deserved ? You ? You, who doesn't know anything about her and what she has done, or not done ? Upon a ten minutes film ? Pfffffff.......... Pathetic.
No tears for her😮