Spartacus was smart enough to know that allowing Glabber to return was the worst thing that could be done to him, but that he was too much of a coward to end his life, as was the way of a Roman commander.
@Mark He couldn't go North, he was trapped in Calabria, Southern Italy. Marching north, through the heart of Rome, meant certain death or apprehension.
I think I've heard about that. I've also heard he loved certain Disney cartoons as well (especially certain animated shorts involving the Big Bad Wolf).
Earlier he told Varinia that he knew nothing. He wanted to know where the wind comes from. But he knew that the stick held the power of the Roman Senate. And he knew it can be broken by hand.
I don't know the actual history of this *battle*. But sending the captured commander of a Roman force would have been a massive insult. The Roman commander would have been expected to die fighting by the senate. So having him returned after being captured would have meant shame, disgrace and insult all round.
Many of you are forgetting that the Spartacus script was written by Dalton Trumbo, a blacklisted writer who would most certainly be on the side of Occupy Wall Street, were he alive today.
And Dalton Trumbo would be embarrassed as hell by that pathetic hipster buffoonery. Not that Trumbo was a political genius. A good fiction writer, but a commie hypocrite otherwise, who named names (against WW2 pacifists) and supported blacklists and repression (as long as it was by the Soviets) when it suited his Stalinist agenda . Gee, maybe you're right and he would be involved with the OWS cult!
The Hollywood blacklists did serious damage to people's reputations and lives. The McCarthy hearings were yet another attempt by conservatives to muzzle American citizens political opinions for their own cynical ends. Crassus' line in the movie about how "lists of the disloyal were being compiled" was straight out of McCarthy's playbook.
I remember watching this when it came out (4 times),I ten years old and thinking Jea n Simmons was the most beautiful woman in the world. And watching this clip again I still do.
One big mistake Spartacus informed the enemy Marcus of the commanding officer of rome,,, that he was taking his people to south! is that the reason why gratis knew Spartacus was taking to sail on his expecting ships?
I was whatching this movie by this scene and thinking: «this is close to the end», and then I read:«continues on disc 2»... oh, how I like this movie...
The story is very Americanized. It`s pretty dumb logic. The Roman system was pretty fair all things considered. Anybody could have been a slave and anybody could have become a Roman citizen and had protection under Roman law. Slavery wasn`t limited to Rome either. There was slavery in Persia, Germania, Gaul, etc. (accept China).
I can't remember, but was this Roman present with Crassus and his wife at the gladiator school, when Douglas is fighting Woody Strode? Did Douglas realise who he was in this scene, or just think he was just another arrogant Roman?
Laurence Olivier stars as Crassus, a Roman, and was one of the most notable British actors ever. Charles Laughton (who stars as Gracchus, a Roman) too. Peter Ustinov (Batiatus) was also British.
I just saw. a documentary about the real Spartacus ...the real history wasn’t so innocent as the movie ...they made it to the alps and could have escaped ,but they decided they liked plundering Rome more than their supposed freedom and turned back ...
No Cool Cat, they never made it to the Alps. Spartacus and the slave army were smashed in southern Italy, in the approximate area where the battle in the film occurred. Spartacus, however, was killed during the battle and did not survive to hear all the other survivors yell "I'm Spartacus!" and then be crucified. I'm not familiar with the documentary film you saw, but it sounds like it was filled with inaccuracies.
It depends on the historic Roman account. The movie followed one of them, but several were written with different varying descriptions and stated goals. We do know that a group split off from Spartacus' main army to keep plundering rather than just find a way to escape. As for his own fate, Spartacus was never found after the final battle. He could have gone down there or unknown to Roman leaders have been crucified with the others similar to what the film shows.
LOLOLOL! "We want nothing from Rome!!!!" Sure!!!! Actually, Spartacus wanted some thing from Rome, Gold and Silver! Spartacus went north and beat the Northern Roman armies, he had an open road to the barbarians lands to escape, but "NO"!!!! He turned back to south, sacked the city of Rome of it's Gold, but he got stuck there because more Roman armies blocked it's way going back. So he went more south, made a deal with Venetian pirates to take them out on ships, but Spartacus got betrayed , because Rome payed more for the pirates, not to take them out. So, Spartacus had to fight with Roman armies again, where he was outnumbered and beaten. Here we go, if Spartacus wouldn't be greedy for Gold, he could have escaped to north?
It is oddly ironic that this movie was a social commentary against all the unjustified blacklisting of writers, actors etc, only bcs they didn't follow McCarthy logic to the letter. We have smth similar with switched colors now, yet still this performance appeals to the rebels.
And ye, the slaves did make it out of the country, and never where they settled was the practice of slavery continued. Well, actually, I find that hard to believe. The film is made like a progressive anti-slavery film but is a time period where almost every society had their own standards regarding slaves. So it's less being opposed to slavery than being opposed to THEIR slavery.
I actually thought one of his scenes with Olivier was very good. Olivier was great and stole most scenes in this film 'Rome is an eternal thought in the mind of God' (my god, who came up with that line?), but his lack of acting ability came off as stupidity in the film and thus was effective.
Spartacus was smart enough to know that allowing Glabber to return was the worst thing that could be done to him, but that he was too much of a coward to end his life, as was the way of a Roman commander.
Kirk Douglas, a great actor and a great man. Memory eternal.
Kirk Douglas , the golden ✨️ age of Hollywood 😂❤
Love the cat calls after he says.."I will not fight like a gladiator!"😂😂😂😂
Kirk's finest film. Should have played a Alexander or Leonidas too. Epic actor
He did play King Odysseus (Ulysses) in the original title.
The Man from Snowy River is a good one too.
That speech at the end - really fires ya up !!!!!!!
In Loving Memory Of
Kirk Douglas (1916-2020)
Kirk Douglas was a great 🎬 🎬 actor 👏 👌
They has been a of great films from Hollywood but this is one of the best l would always put this film in the top ten for all times
Great scene but Spartacus made a serious military mistake: he revealed his plans to the enemy.
Yes but where else can he go
So, to where the big big Roman armies meant to defend the republic from the Gauls are?
@mark houghton North was no choice with those numbers.
@Mark He couldn't go North, he was trapped in Calabria, Southern Italy. Marching north, through the heart of Rome, meant certain death or apprehension.
mark houghton they did ...
Cool trivia: this was apparently John F. Kennedy's favorite movie.
+Lucas Davis Interesting. It is said that Hitler's favorite movie was Lives of a Bengal Lancer.
I think I've heard about that. I've also heard he loved certain Disney cartoons as well (especially certain animated shorts involving the Big Bad Wolf).
+Lucas Davis Real heroes don't die. Their legend lives on.
True words, man.
Looks like the Modern society after the internet died.
Great acting by Kirk Douglas.
THAT's natural physique. 100% chemical free.
Earlier he told Varinia that he knew nothing. He wanted to know where the wind comes from. But he knew that the stick held the power of the Roman Senate. And he knew it can be broken by hand.
I loved this movie! Olivier and Mark Lenard could have been brothers! They looked so much alike.
Laying on his belly pretending to be dead .the hierarchy of Rome lol .
Is that how they conquered the world? Oh yeah, they just dominated lol
He was commanding it on his belly when we found him. Playing dead!
Roman vanity was the chief cause for their defeat.
NEVER, underestimate your opponent
but they were never defeated lol, Glaber was literally commanding firefighters and policemen.
Arrogance was the reason Rome was defeated at Cannae, Carrhae, Teutoburg Forest, and Adrianople.
@@Skymaster.47 And arrogance was the reason they won at Zama, Cstephian, Ipsis, Pydna, Silarus and Chalon just to name a little of the many wins
I don't know the actual history of this *battle*. But sending the captured commander of a Roman force would have been a massive insult.
The Roman commander would have been expected to die fighting by the senate. So having him returned after being captured would have meant shame, disgrace and insult all round.
That's why his punishment was to be Exiled from all of Italy!
But I hear southern Gaul is nice that time of year .... Say near Monaco.
@@jamesalexander5623 I thought his exile was from the whole Roman Empire not just Italy.
When Spartacus says take this back to Rome you could just tell he was thinking Whew!
The best movie ever
No CGI.
Just good old fashioned acting
To bad they hadn’t invented pockets yet so he could bring the broken stick back ...
Kirk Douglas RIP
The TV Show did a complete change on his character, making the greatest main villain of Vengeance.
thats probably more accurate. People look at him as some kind of anti-slavery crusader. Definitely was not.
Love you Spartacus 🇧🇷😍
Love this scene!
Many of you are forgetting that the Spartacus script was written by Dalton Trumbo, a blacklisted writer who would most certainly be on the side of Occupy Wall Street, were he alive today.
And Dalton Trumbo would be embarrassed as hell by that pathetic hipster buffoonery. Not that Trumbo was a political genius. A good fiction writer, but a commie hypocrite otherwise, who named names (against WW2 pacifists) and supported blacklists and repression (as long as it was by the Soviets) when it suited his Stalinist agenda . Gee, maybe you're right and he would be involved with the OWS cult!
Looky here everybody! We got ourselves a right wing badass! Watch yourselves, Noyb Elohssa don’t like no commies!
Noyb Elohssa
Oh, see that same looking baton with *rods tied to an ax* on the walls of the House of Representatives?
Pay your taxes slaves.
The Hollywood blacklists did serious damage to people's reputations and lives. The McCarthy hearings were yet another attempt by conservatives to muzzle American citizens political opinions for their own cynical ends. Crassus' line in the movie about how "lists of the disloyal were being compiled" was straight out of McCarthy's playbook.
@@KneelB4BaconHaha good. Suck it up! Commies got defeated. Cry some more
2:08 great moment, great words from kirk maybe your better performance in your long career together how van gogh in lust of life, off course.
The golden age of Hollywood 😂😂
Hey, John Dall did alright.
@@Der1Einzige He was Brilliant in Hitchcock's "Rope"!
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I remember watching this when it came out (4 times),I ten years old and thinking Jea n Simmons was the most beautiful woman in the world. And watching this clip again I still do.
In this scene spartacus made a mistake telling the message to the commander chief that "we going south to the sea"
That depends. If Spartacus had marched NORTH and crossed the Alps then struck out for the Rhine River it would have been wise. …
they dont make em like this anymore
you are right i havent been to a hollywood movie is 6 yrs only independent and foreign
Let's have a match pair. Him and me.
One big mistake Spartacus informed the enemy Marcus of the commanding officer of rome,,, that he was taking his people to south! is that the reason why gratis knew Spartacus was taking to sail on his expecting ships?
I was whatching this movie by this scene and thinking: «this is close to the end», and then I read:«continues on disc 2»... oh, how I like this movie...
"get out of this damn country"
yeah...they SHOULD have
The story is very Americanized. It`s pretty dumb logic. The Roman system was pretty fair all things considered. Anybody could have been a slave and anybody could have become a Roman citizen and had protection under Roman law. Slavery wasn`t limited to Rome either. There was slavery in Persia, Germania, Gaul, etc. (accept China).
Courage
Hero
The authority isn t always gentil
OBGD por postarem o filme. Postem o filme completo. Perdemos nosso DVD
I can't remember, but was this Roman present with Crassus and his wife at the gladiator school, when Douglas is fighting Woody Strode? Did Douglas realise who he was in this scene, or just think he was just another arrogant Roman?
Yes! The Combat to the Death was a Wedding Present to Glabrus from Crassus!
I think he was too busy trying to stay alive to take notice, he did remember Crassus.
Ciruthu mig nerungiya kalathai sent ha or u paratchigara porali.
One of the few films wear ancient Romans are not played by British actors. Nice change.
Except for Peter Ustinov, Charles Laughton, Lawrence Olivier and many others.
Laurence Olivier stars as Crassus, a Roman, and was one of the most notable British actors ever. Charles Laughton (who stars as Gracchus, a Roman) too. Peter Ustinov (Batiatus) was also British.
Just wait till Biggus Dickus hears of this!
@@M0butu - I hope he "always looks on the bright side of life."
I just saw. a documentary about the real Spartacus ...the real history wasn’t so innocent as the movie ...they made it to the alps and could have escaped ,but they decided they liked plundering Rome more than their supposed freedom and turned back ...
No Cool Cat, they never made it to the Alps. Spartacus and the slave army were smashed in southern Italy, in the approximate area where the battle in the film occurred. Spartacus, however, was killed during the battle and did not survive to hear all the other survivors yell "I'm Spartacus!" and then be crucified. I'm not familiar with the documentary film you saw, but it sounds like it was filled with inaccuracies.
It depends on the historic Roman account. The movie followed one of them, but several were written with different varying descriptions and stated goals. We do know that a group split off from Spartacus' main army to keep plundering rather than just find a way to escape. As for his own fate, Spartacus was never found after the final battle. He could have gone down there or unknown to Roman leaders have been crucified with the others similar to what the film shows.
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LOLOLOL!
"We want nothing from Rome!!!!"
Sure!!!!
Actually, Spartacus wanted some thing from Rome, Gold and Silver!
Spartacus went north and beat the Northern Roman armies, he had an open road to the barbarians lands to escape, but "NO"!!!!
He turned back to south, sacked the city of Rome of it's Gold, but he got stuck there because more Roman armies blocked it's way going back.
So he went more south, made a deal with Venetian pirates to take them out on ships, but Spartacus got betrayed , because Rome payed more for the pirates, not to take them out.
So, Spartacus had to fight with Roman armies again, where he was outnumbered and beaten.
Here we go, if Spartacus wouldn't be greedy for Gold, he could have escaped to north?
It is oddly ironic that this movie was a social commentary against all the unjustified blacklisting of writers, actors etc, only bcs they didn't follow McCarthy logic to the letter.
We have smth similar with switched colors now, yet still this performance appeals to the rebels.
McCarthy was right. Just look at all the communists in Hollywood and our government!
@@hectorheathcote9495 Everyone is always right at some point in history.
McCarthy made life a living hell, and that was not worth it. So he was wrong.
@@M0butu The communists he was trying to expose are now making OUR lives hell.
@@hectorheathcote9495 He called Eisenhower a Communist .... McCarthy was Insane .... Are You as well?
@@jamesalexander5623More like you are insane too
THEY DIDN'T HAVE FLATTOPS IN ANCIENT ROME!!!!
Are you talkin' about Aircraft Carriers or Haircuts?
Slaves Revolt!
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Nah, Occupy Wall Street could never muster the balls to actually fight a real battle with anyone. The TV Show did a good job with this scene for sure.
"...and now breaking news from the California Capitol in Sacramento..."
Not unlike you Occupy has not only a clue about what they're doing. But also why. Do some bloody research.
xD
Stuffed shirt
Cowards punishment......
The end of capitalism
And ye, the slaves did make it out of the country, and never where they settled was the practice of slavery continued. Well, actually, I find that hard to believe. The film is made like a progressive anti-slavery film but is a time period where almost every society had their own standards regarding slaves. So it's less being opposed to slavery than being opposed to THEIR slavery.
We should give Biden such a send off....
John Dall was a truly terrible actor. It was embarrassing seeing him try to act opposite Laurence Olivier and Charles Laughton.
I actually thought one of his scenes with Olivier was very good. Olivier was great and stole most scenes in this film 'Rome is an eternal thought in the mind of God' (my god, who came up with that line?), but his lack of acting ability came off as stupidity in the film and thus was effective.