I love Zathras, and his nine siblings: Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, and last but not least, Zathras ( he is my fav, because of his depth of personality! )
@@syntaxusdogmata3333 WHAT? Are you kidding? Zathras was jealous that Zathras was always the life of the party and was able to get all the hot girls! And, as for Zathras, he was always the black sheep of the family.
I have never met anybody who didn't like Zathras. Apparently, once he was in costume, Tim Choate would stay in character all day, to preserve the mind set of the character ( and his several hours in make-up each day). He was often very funny on set, but off camera. But Zathras not mind, Zathras used to being butt of joke. A truly endearing performance.
It's been a while since watching B5. And I had forgot that one line that made me laugh, and it still does. "You are finite, Zathras if finite, this is wrong tool". lol
Kosh: “Who are you?” Zathras: “I am being Zathras, not being Zathras. Zathras is often mistaken for Zathras but is not to be mistaken for Zathras. No one listen to Zathras. Zathras has sad life, probably have sad death. But there is symmetry.” Kosh: “I regret asking.”
Always kind of wished Zathras and Lorien had met each other on screen. Figured they'd just politely nod, siliently, to each other, then get on with their business.
We should all take a moment to appreciate how Stracynzki wove this story to pay off over multiple seasons like this, especially considering the number of things that forced him to change story points (like Sinclair's actor having to leave the show due to his struggles with mental illness.)
Zathras was like Holiday Dressing or that special Fudge only made on holidays. If you had it everyday you'd get tired of it, because it's a rare event it's more loved and appreciated
Fun Note: @4:51 this scene has no cuts or breaks. This scene was one long perfectly execute form of acting by Tim Choate. This is the reason why Claudia Christian performance looks so good at the buffutle points. She forgot her lines but did not want to break character because Tim Choate exit for the scene was not planned. Later.
At 4:15 - 'You are finite, Zathras is finite, this.... is wrong tool. [picks up another widget] Never use this....' I just gotta believe Mr Choate was just given a few notes from JMS: 'Here are the bullet points you gotta hit. Do what you want, we trust you.'
For years I'd occasionally search and never found anyone had posted that scene. Shook my faith in the interwebs. So glad it, and the rest, all collected in one place. O7
One of my all time favorite characters over the decades I've been watching sci-fi fare. He's the kind of guy who can drive you absolutely bonkers, (ask Susan Ivanova), but when the chips are down and everything's on the line, he's the kind of guy who will get you through the crises. Tim Choate played this role to perfection.
@@John2Ward Eureka! What a capital idea! The people at work and the general population have no clue what's about to be unleashed. You folks in this thread gave me a good belly laugh. Bless you.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin For years I'd occasionally search and never found anyone had posted that scene. Shook my faith in the interwebs. So glad it, and the rest, all collected in one place. O7
@@rickfalletta1979 Happy to do my part for the B5 community. If there's any other scenes you look for but can't find, let me know, and I'll see about getting it up.
"Zathras dress like this, you dress like that.." "You met Zathras, not Zathras..." "Zathras trained in crisis-management..." this was a fabulous character, will be missed.
I just got a feeling that Zathras's race communicates with both speech and pheromones that only Zathras's race can detect. And that's why we get the "Whos on First" routine between Zathras and Ivanova.
such a massive and shocking tragedy to lose Tim Choate in a motorcycle accident (IIRC). His and Richard's death's were the two no one saw coming AT ALL.
I thoroughly enjoyed Babylon 5 when it first came out. I preferred it over Deep Space 9, largely because it had more humor. Zathras was a favorite character. So was Zathras. But Zathrus..... well...... not so much.
Zathras is amazing. To be the comic relief while still being massively important to events and without just coming over as inherently stupid... genius writing. I have just been hit by a revelation! Jar Jar Binks was supposed to be the Zathras of Star Wars. But they cocked it up so bad he became the Wesley Crusher of Star Wars instead.
Absolutely loved Zathras. Tickled beyond reason that not only is Zathras in the new animated movie BUT still using same line 'None listens to Zathras' :(
I get the feeling they are all the same Zathras, but from alternate time lines, he's probably gone insane, maybe something akin to Temporal psychosis from star trek.
Ah...Zathras. No, the other one. One of the very few beings in the universe who could pat Susan on the head as if she were a child without suffering an immediate and horrific death.
there are ten of us... all of family Zathras ... each one named Zathras ... slight differences in how you pronounce ......... Zathras .... Zathras ... Zathras ~ oh this scene is too funny
Me: I don't know how to pick a favorite character on Babylon Five. Ivanova, Delenn, Sheridan, G'Kar, Marcus, Garibaldi, Vir... the list of great characters is just too long and I feel bad even trying to decide. Also me: Zathras. Zathras is my favorite character on Babylon Five.
One of the favorite comments I've heard about the scene of Zathras explaining the different versions of the name for different Zathras brothers: "Ivanova's not hearing it, we're not hearing it, and Superman isn't hearing it either." I think this was on the (unfortunately now-defunct) Hyperion web site of Babylon 5 episodes. Anybody know if that web site was resurrected somewhere else?
когда впервые увидела серию с похищением Вавилона-4, как же это было увлекательно. Но когда пришла очередь поучаствовать в похищении главным героям, просто был восторг от истории! 😍 обожаю эти серии и Затраса, конечно)
Good they had family explanation, but wouldn't that mean a lot of Scenes he would have not taken it they where meaning him and bit one of the the brothers.
This was so confusing, BB4 was taken to the past and given to Minbari in English and all the background of Humans. When the Minbari see them in BB5 it's like they see them for the first time they did not know who they were.
1,000 years is a long time, and a lot was lost as a result. Delenn said they had only a few surviving records from that war, and even those were hidden by the Gray Council. So the majority of Minbari would not have recognized anything about the humans when they met them again, and even the Council had grown complacent to the point where most if not all of them had never bothered to look at those records. If I remember correctly, she also said that they did recognize Babylon 4 when it neared completion which is one of the reasons they chose to help finance the construction of Babylon 5.
@@qaskew24 I read that Babylon 4 was eventually discovered some years after the events of the series in a decaying orbit around a gas giant. I don't remember what happened after that discovery. What I'm about to say are only my personal theories and don't come from any official source. After the Minbari won the war against the Shadows, they probably stopped using the station almost right away. I'm pretty sure even at that time the technology was rather primitive compared to their own, so they wouldn't really want to keep it around. There's no telling what happened after that. Perhaps it got moved to a remote system to be stored, then forgotten about, or maybe Valenn deliberately made it lost in an effort to prevent people from learning too much about the future. Whatever happened to it after the war, the Minbari wouldn't have a reason to preserve the language of an alien race with which they have no contact, especially during a time of immense rebuilding after a terribly destructive war. Eventually the station, the language, and any information on the species that built it was simply lost, forgotten, and/or ignored.
The station would have had Interlac in its library. Now, the question may be asked if the Minbari knew Interlac back then, or this is where Interlac first arose in their history.
I met Zathras once, you know. Nice guy, but don't get him drunk or he'll rant endlessly about Zathras. No, not that one, the other one. The one called Zathras. Or was it Zathras? I get easily confoosed.
With the original plan in mind, where Babylon 5 gets destroyed and the B4 is pulled into the future and become Babylon Prime to fight the Shadow War, his explanation of what he is doing feels so much more ominous. But that would have been a 10-year plan and given the tv-landscape at the time, it was a miracle they got the five years in the first place.
@@robertbusek30 yes. Because the Network was shutting down. He left some storylines (Londo) open, but overall finished most of the story in season 4. but after Season 1 there was also a big change. Apparently B5 would have originally ended with its destruction and then a new show, Babylon Prime, would have seen Sinclair & team pull Babylon 4 through time into the future and then another 5 seasons would have seen the end of the shadow war, with Sinclair's and Delenn's child aging up and becoming a sort of messianic figure. But after season one not only was Michael O'Hare sick and had to be written out, but Straczynski realized that this 10 year plan was unrealistic, so he rewrote the entire thing. This is apparently from the scriptbooks that came out a while back, but tbh I also only have second hand information.
zathras was a true man. so kind and wise. not like zathras. now he was a piece of shit. always borrowing money and never paying it back. but i think kosh liked zathras the most. he always had kind things to say about him. and sherdian wasn't a big fan of zathras. apparently, he tried to spy on delenn while she was in the shower. not that i blame him but still, that's another man's wife.
Anyone here a Dr Who (or older Who) fan? During the Capaldi Era, before it all went woke, he did a part talking about Beethoven called the bootstrap paradox, th-cam.com/video/u4SEDzynMiQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DoctorWho , Now my question is this, If Zathras is the father of all 10 Zathras's? Which i assume is true, Is he a bootstrap paradox?
I haven't seen any Capaldi episodes, but I recently saw a video on the bootstrap paradox. Personally, I don't think Zathras fathered himself or any of the others as a result of time travel. The one that I wonder about; however, is the Triluminary. It seems to be stuck in a circle starting with Valenn, then going to Delenn, and finally Sinclair who takes it back again.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin Not necessarily, Sheridan is part of the three as well. Sinclair/Valen is, as Zathras told, the beginning of the story, Delenn is the middle of the story and Sheridan is the end of the story. I do get where you get it from, with the machine, just you can't mention Sinclair and Delenn without talking about Sheridan. Now that you mentioned it, it does make me wonder as well who is the parent of who?
@@crazylarryjr I was referring to the device the Minbari used to interrogate Sinclair and later Delenn and Sinclair used to change themselves. Zathras' description of the story has always made me wonder a bit, though I'm probably overthinking it. He says Delenn is the middle of the story and Sheridan is the end, but to me those two are happening more or less simultaneously. Sinclair/Valenn being the beginning works out easily enough, though.
I love Zathras, and his nine siblings: Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, and last but not least, Zathras ( he is my fav, because of his depth of personality! )
Have you met their cousins though?
why would include zathras in this? he's a piece of shit. not like zathras. zathras you can trust.
How do you keep em appart
How could Zathras be your favorite? Personally, I think Zathras presented new and interesting ideas for coping with Zathras and Zathras's hijinks.
@@syntaxusdogmata3333
WHAT? Are you kidding? Zathras was jealous that Zathras was always the life of the party and was able to get all the hot girls!
And, as for Zathras, he was always the black sheep of the family.
Zathras never listen to Zathras. The ultimate complaint.
Patting Ivanova on the head is just proof that Zathrus was the bravest of them all…
I have never met anybody who didn't like Zathras.
Apparently, once he was in costume, Tim Choate would stay in character all day, to preserve the mind set of the character ( and his several hours in make-up each day). He was often very funny on set, but off camera.
But Zathras not mind, Zathras used to being butt of joke.
A truly endearing performance.
Jack was very fond of Zathras.
The clicking noice he makes was actor tring to keep the teeth in place.adds to character.
RIP Tim Choate, he befell the Babylon 5 death curse.
"Not supposed to mention The One"
Proceeds to mention The One throughout the story.
It's been a while since watching B5. And I had forgot that one line that made me laugh, and it still does. "You are finite, Zathras if finite, this is wrong tool". lol
Don't forget to "Never use this".
Kosh: “Who are you?”
Zathras: “I am being Zathras, not being Zathras. Zathras is often mistaken for Zathras but is not to be mistaken for Zathras. No one listen to Zathras. Zathras has sad life, probably have sad death. But there is symmetry.”
Kosh: “I regret asking.”
Ulkesh: (Telepathic Choke)
He is to Babylon 5 like Scuffy is to Futurama.
......
Kosh: "i regret asking."
OR
Kosh: I hate it when Zathras does this.
Zathras: Good, Zathras is much pleased, yes!
Always kind of wished Zathras and Lorien had met each other on screen. Figured they'd just politely nod, siliently, to each other, then get on with their business.
Zathras wouldn't want you being confoosed. Pat pat.
We should all take a moment to appreciate how Stracynzki wove this story to pay off over multiple seasons like this, especially considering the number of things that forced him to change story points (like Sinclair's actor having to leave the show due to his struggles with mental illness.)
cannot run out of time I love that one it's so true
R.I.P Tim Choate you left us too soon.
😭😭😭 ...yes R.I.P.
Babylon 5 has quite a number of actors left too soon.
Sadly, most of the people in this video have gone beyond the rim.
I admire Claudia Christian for keeping a straight face.
That must've taken a whole lot of discipline.
My only complaint with zathras is that he was not on the show more. Definitely one of my favorite characters him and his nine siblings.
Zathras was like Holiday Dressing or that special Fudge only made on holidays. If you had it everyday you'd get tired of it, because it's a rare event it's more loved and appreciated
@@crazylarryjr Good point.
The way he says, "9 now" gets me every time.
Fun Note: @4:51 this scene has no cuts or breaks. This scene was one long perfectly execute form of acting by Tim Choate. This is the reason why Claudia Christian performance looks so good at the buffutle points. She forgot her lines but did not want to break character because Tim Choate exit for the scene was not planned. Later.
I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
At 4:15 - 'You are finite, Zathras is finite, this.... is wrong tool. [picks up another widget] Never use this....'
I just gotta believe Mr Choate was just given a few notes from JMS: 'Here are the bullet points you gotta hit. Do what you want, we trust you.'
For years I'd occasionally search and never found anyone had posted that scene. Shook my faith in the interwebs. So glad it, and the rest, all collected in one place. O7
One of my all time favorite characters over the decades I've been watching sci-fi fare. He's the kind of guy who can drive you absolutely bonkers, (ask Susan Ivanova), but when the chips are down and everything's on the line, he's the kind of guy who will get you through the crises.
Tim Choate played this role to perfection.
It's really not that hard to set off Ivanova.
@@fmlazar Yeah, she does have a bit of a hair trigger.
I still say "Not the one" in my best Zathras voice. Nobody gets the reference.
I routinely annoy my co-workers with Babylon 5 references.
I do that all the time in the supermarket, whenever what I find on the shelves isn't quite what I am seeking -- and in Zathras' voice.
@@John2Ward Eureka! What a capital idea!
The people at work and the general population have no clue what's about to be unleashed.
You folks in this thread gave me a good belly laugh. Bless you.
That is because you are not Zathras. You are Zathras, but not Zathras. Easy to get confoosed about this.
@@TomFynn Yes. Zathras knows. Not the one.
"There are 10 of us, all of family Zathras, each one named Zathras."
Have been looking on here for the "this is wrong tool" clip for ages. Many thanks 😊
The rarity of B5 clips is one of the reasons I started doing this.
Many thanks for doing it
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin
For years I'd occasionally search and never found anyone had posted that scene. Shook my faith in the interwebs. So glad it, and the rest, all collected in one place. O7
@@rickfalletta1979 Happy to do my part for the B5 community. If there's any other scenes you look for but can't find, let me know, and I'll see about getting it up.
Zathras was an amazing character. Excellent acting too.
In Valens Name; yet another unique character in an excellent series. Great Maker.
At least there is symmetry.
I've lost count of how many times I've used that line over the years.
Great character by a great actor which unfortunately has already passed.
"Zathras dress like this, you dress like that.." "You met Zathras, not Zathras..." "Zathras trained in crisis-management..." this was a fabulous character, will be missed.
Oh! This is a compilation of Zathras clips... but, I was looking for Zathras clips. (Subtle difference in how you pronounce!)
No one listens to Zathras.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin Poor Zathras.
I just got a feeling that Zathras's race communicates with both speech and pheromones that only Zathras's race can detect. And that's why we get the "Whos on First" routine between Zathras and Ivanova.
Zathras is an excellent science fiction character. Tim Choate was fantastic in this role.
Iconic - Tims Zathras an Walters Bester - 'nuff said.
Thank you. Yes he was a fascinating character study. And fun part that he had brothers. Or was he just skipping across time zones😀😆😁
But what about Zathras?
@@parrot998 Zathras and Zathras went to see Zathras who is not feeling well. Very sad story.
@@charlespfaff6585 🤣🤣hope Zathras feel better. Maybe eat bug for protein yes?
you missed the best one where he talks about dirt.
Absolutely loved Zathras, he was so wise
Yep, and Zathras was also wise.
Ah, Zathras. One of the unsung heroes of B5. 😁👌
You gotta wonder if anyone ever built that statue.
I plan on writing a Zathras song, just to make you a liar.
@@protorhinocerator142 Can't wait to hear it!
My favorite B5 character. "But at least there is symmetry." OMG I forgot how funny that line was!!! 🤣
"Either way, is bad for Zathras." That's SO true. :P
We now need Zathras more than ever. His training in crisis management would be invaluable.
such a massive and shocking tragedy to lose Tim Choate in a motorcycle accident (IIRC). His and Richard's death's were the two no one saw coming AT ALL.
Too many deaths from a cursed franchise.
Much like the Superman curse or the 20 years President curse. Some escape the curse, but not many.
Zathras probably knew but of course no one listened to him.
I thoroughly enjoyed Babylon 5 when it first came out. I preferred it over Deep Space 9, largely because it had more humor. Zathras was a favorite character. So was Zathras. But Zathrus..... well...... not so much.
Babylon 5 felt real to me compared to DS9.
@@Steve-gc5nt The later seasons of DS9 took much from Babylon 5.
Zathras is amazing. To be the comic relief while still being massively important to events and without just coming over as inherently stupid... genius writing.
I have just been hit by a revelation!
Jar Jar Binks was supposed to be the Zathras of Star Wars.
But they cocked it up so bad he became the Wesley Crusher of Star Wars instead.
greetings from Poland :)
Better times, better shows, there was still entertainment and escapism. Genuine artistry working within constraints. So glad I got to watch it all.
Absolutely loved Zathras. Tickled beyond reason that not only is Zathras in the new animated movie BUT still using same line 'None listens to Zathras' :(
Zathras is the Real Hero of Babylon 5!!!! You did not meet Zathras, you met Zathras, best line ever!!!!
There is much needing more of Zathras, Babylon 5 (and 4 and 6...) to be showing! ;D Much liking Zathras we are.
I get the feeling they are all the same Zathras, but from alternate time lines, he's probably gone insane, maybe something akin to Temporal psychosis from star trek.
Interesting theory!
Ah...Zathras. No, the other one. One of the very few beings in the universe who could pat Susan on the head as if she were a child without suffering an immediate and horrific death.
The things you can get away with should you manage to first completely and utterly confuse the other person.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin I suspect that Zathra was a founder of _Confuse-A-Cat LTD._
I always thought Zathras was some prehistoric neanderthal type creature that was abducted from Earth's past by aliens to serve the machine.
Zathras, the only being to get away with patting Ivanova on the head and living to talk about it...
Ain't that the truth.
This video is approved by Zathras. Or is it, Zathras, Zathras or Zathras. Wonderfully put together.
Should have just named them all Daryl!
🤣
Zathras good at doings ... not understandings ... LOL
there are ten of us... all of family Zathras ... each one named Zathras ... slight differences in how you pronounce ......... Zathras .... Zathras ... Zathras ~ oh this scene is too funny
Me: I don't know how to pick a favorite character on Babylon Five. Ivanova, Delenn, Sheridan, G'Kar, Marcus, Garibaldi, Vir... the list of great characters is just too long and I feel bad even trying to decide.
Also me: Zathras. Zathras is my favorite character on Babylon Five.
Zathras: Such a compelling character.
All Zathras are the hero of the galaxy. Wait. All Zathras's are the hero of the galaxy. All Zathras's are the heroes of the galaxy.
except for Zathras. Him black sheep of family, we no talk about him.
"This is wrong tool" I don't know, but how many people feel like Zathras speaks for all of Us.
Yes! Then you can't seem to find the right tool, so you have to make the wrong one work somehow.
Every now and then, we all have those Zathras moments.
Me rummaging through the tool boxes, "Not the one."
What a great character, which was well played. Zathras good.
My favorite character of all B5 universe. He tells you what you need to know, and still no body listens to him. Which I can relate to. 😸😸😸
"Knows things,even Drall does not know yet."
Does anyone else wonder if Gabriel Iglesias based his character's (Picchu) speech style in Maya and the Three on Zathras? It's eerily similar.
One of the favorite comments I've heard about the scene of Zathras explaining the different versions of the name for different Zathras brothers: "Ivanova's not hearing it, we're not hearing it, and Superman isn't hearing it either." I think this was on the (unfortunately now-defunct) Hyperion web site of Babylon 5 episodes. Anybody know if that web site was resurrected somewhere else?
Love this guy.
The coolest part is when you finally understood.
когда впервые увидела серию с похищением Вавилона-4, как же это было увлекательно. Но когда пришла очередь поучаствовать в похищении главным героям, просто был восторг от истории! 😍 обожаю эти серии и Затраса, конечно)
Zathras may be best part of Babylon 5
I disagree. I think it was Zathras.
@@DadJokeSamurai No you wrong, it was Zathras. Or maybe Zathras. Definitely not Zathras. This one was mediocre in family.
Good they had family explanation, but wouldn't that mean a lot of Scenes he would have not taken it they where meaning him and bit one of the the brothers.
I like Zathras!
Man I do love Zathras.
The reboot need Zathras.
This was so confusing, BB4 was taken to the past and given to Minbari in English and all the background of Humans. When the Minbari see them in BB5 it's like they see them for the first time they did not know who they were.
1,000 years is a long time, and a lot was lost as a result. Delenn said they had only a few surviving records from that war, and even those were hidden by the Gray Council. So the majority of Minbari would not have recognized anything about the humans when they met them again, and even the Council had grown complacent to the point where most if not all of them had never bothered to look at those records.
If I remember correctly, she also said that they did recognize Babylon 4 when it neared completion which is one of the reasons they chose to help finance the construction of Babylon 5.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin What happened to BB4? They had to learn At least English to work the station.
@@qaskew24 I read that Babylon 4 was eventually discovered some years after the events of the series in a decaying orbit around a gas giant. I don't remember what happened after that discovery.
What I'm about to say are only my personal theories and don't come from any official source.
After the Minbari won the war against the Shadows, they probably stopped using the station almost right away. I'm pretty sure even at that time the technology was rather primitive compared to their own, so they wouldn't really want to keep it around. There's no telling what happened after that. Perhaps it got moved to a remote system to be stored, then forgotten about, or maybe Valenn deliberately made it lost in an effort to prevent people from learning too much about the future.
Whatever happened to it after the war, the Minbari wouldn't have a reason to preserve the language of an alien race with which they have no contact, especially during a time of immense rebuilding after a terribly destructive war. Eventually the station, the language, and any information on the species that built it was simply lost, forgotten, and/or ignored.
The station would have had Interlac in its library. Now, the question may be asked if the Minbari knew Interlac back then, or this is where Interlac first arose in their history.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin That's as plausible an explanation as I've ever heard. Honestly it should be canon.
I was listening to Zathras😂
Need to update with the scenes from the new b5 movie the road home
It would have been delighful Ivanova running on more than one Zathras.
You know, I like Zathras, he's no Zathras, but he is more personable then Zathras, Zathras, Zathras, or Zathras.
at least he's not like zathras. heard he borrowed some cash from garibali and never paid him back.
I met Zathras once, you know. Nice guy, but don't get him drunk or he'll rant endlessly about Zathras. No, not that one, the other one. The one called Zathras. Or was it Zathras? I get easily confoosed.
I Love Zathras
I love Zathras and his kin as well :)
Zathras, is my hero
Zathras is easily my favourite B5 character.
Zathras, where did you get a coon tail?
Interesting question.
Huh. Missing some Zathras scenes. Poor Zathras.
Pour one out for a true hero.
With the original plan in mind, where Babylon 5 gets destroyed and the B4 is pulled into the future and become Babylon Prime to fight the Shadow War, his explanation of what he is doing feels so much more ominous.
But that would have been a 10-year plan and given the tv-landscape at the time, it was a miracle they got the five years in the first place.
If I recall correctly, they squashed it down to four seasons and then tacked on the fifth.
@@robertbusek30 yes. Because the Network was shutting down. He left some storylines (Londo) open, but overall finished most of the story in season 4.
but after Season 1 there was also a big change. Apparently B5 would have originally ended with its destruction and then a new show, Babylon Prime, would have seen Sinclair & team pull Babylon 4 through time into the future and then another 5 seasons would have seen the end of the shadow war, with Sinclair's and Delenn's child aging up and becoming a sort of messianic figure. But after season one not only was Michael O'Hare sick and had to be written out, but Straczynski realized that this 10 year plan was unrealistic, so he rewrote the entire thing.
This is apparently from the scriptbooks that came out a while back, but tbh I also only have second hand information.
Zathras was quiet one in family .... SOOOOO!!! (left that part out)
Unfortunately I had to leave out a few good moments to keep the video the target length. :(
Kudos to B5 in saying race as opposed to species
Wh... why?
Zathras has been trolling them the whole time.
zathras was a true man. so kind and wise.
not like zathras. now he was a piece of shit. always borrowing money and never paying it back.
but i think kosh liked zathras the most. he always had kind things to say about him.
and sherdian wasn't a big fan of zathras. apparently, he tried to spy on delenn while she was in the shower. not that i blame him but still, that's another man's wife.
It's too bad this video is incomplete without Zathras.
Zathrii
Well, nine now...
totally hilarious!
Zathras and Lisa Douglas must be related 🤷🏼♂️🤓😎✌🏻
why are we ignoring Zathraiiiiii?
tch tch tch
is infinite time.
You are finite.
Zathras is Finite.
This....
is wrong tool.
Zathras is the best of the best program ever. All 10 of him/them.
This is still wrong tool............
Seven hundredth ninety seventh sub.
Anyone here a Dr Who (or older Who) fan? During the Capaldi Era, before it all went woke, he did a part talking about Beethoven called the bootstrap paradox,
th-cam.com/video/u4SEDzynMiQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DoctorWho ,
Now my question is this, If Zathras is the father of all 10 Zathras's? Which i assume is true, Is he a bootstrap paradox?
I haven't seen any Capaldi episodes, but I recently saw a video on the bootstrap paradox. Personally, I don't think Zathras fathered himself or any of the others as a result of time travel.
The one that I wonder about; however, is the Triluminary. It seems to be stuck in a circle starting with Valenn, then going to Delenn, and finally Sinclair who takes it back again.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin Not necessarily, Sheridan is part of the three as well. Sinclair/Valen is, as Zathras told, the beginning of the story, Delenn is the middle of the story and Sheridan is the end of the story. I do get where you get it from, with the machine, just you can't mention Sinclair and Delenn without talking about Sheridan. Now that you mentioned it, it does make me wonder as well who is the parent of who?
@@crazylarryjr I was referring to the device the Minbari used to interrogate Sinclair and later Delenn and Sinclair used to change themselves.
Zathras' description of the story has always made me wonder a bit, though I'm probably overthinking it. He says Delenn is the middle of the story and Sheridan is the end, but to me those two are happening more or less simultaneously. Sinclair/Valenn being the beginning works out easily enough, though.
No that was zathras, not zathras. Zathras great hero. Zathras not so much. 😂
Zathras was one of the funniest characters .. Like the old Who's on First routine