I graduated 4 years ago from the apprenticeship. This definitely wasn't my dream job growing up it just kind of presented itself through my lady's brother. It's been tough physical work that's taken alot of my time up. But I can comfortably take care of my kids and lady while owning a house, car and not worrying about money in general. The hardest part for me is just how much time I spend at work compared to my home life.
Is near almost 1 year since i finishing welding school, and ive been having a hard time finding a welding opportunity/job. I'm researching unions hopefully is the right choice.
They build the buildings in China and ship the completed multi-ton steel structure with concrete foundation back to the USA to be installed on the lot.
My brother is an iron worker. He makes better money than most of my siblings. His union protects him and his job is secure. I hope the same for you. Life is tough for many people and we all have our struggles within our jobs and personal lives. Keep striving! I hope your dreams of having a family have already come true or that you're happy one way or the other.
I’m a union ironworker apprentice and life is good. Everyday is the exact opposite of a struggle. I also have a pension plan so idk what this dude is smoking
He’s depressed clearly. I don’t think he said struggle in the right context. Iron workers union is steady good work and he said as much. Glad you like it.
It's not a struggle when you are trained properly and use your head. I had an excellent training program and brothers in my union take the time to teach me so much every day. I'm seeing progress quickly and am stoked to come in every day and practice my new skills. I make damn good money for an apprentice, have a pension plan, benefits, and work out here is booming. You need drive and to be both mentally and physically fit to succeed in this trade, as there are so many aspects to it. Highly skilled professionals make up my union and this video does not paint an accurate picture of what being an ironworker apprentice is really about. Going to school and joining this trade has changed my life. I am proud to be an ironworker. Local 97 Vancouver, BC
Cristian Munoz I don't know why people keep spouting dumb crap like this, as if the only alternative to a trade is something useless like gender studies or whatever. If you have the time to complete a four year apprenticeship, you'd be better off spending those four years getting a bachelors degree, becoming an RN, lab med tech, doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc.
That's just dumb. "If you have time to do a 4 year apprenticeship, you might as well go to college." Lol. Apprenticeship is free (minus a couple hundred dollars, plus tooling) You're paid to learn, instead of paying to learn. Pension, annuity, healthcare, all paid for by the contractor. No robot to take your place. Don't get me wrong, college is a useful tool, and if you're interested in nursing, engineering, architecture, etc.. go to college. But if you're not interested in college and you want a steady career with good pay and great benefits, join a trade union. You're only wasting your time if you are just working cause you have to. If you're doing what you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
Mark Grim all education is worth while...I’m a JIW and I went to college too...I value both experiences and am proud to have had them. I don’t care what you do for a living it’s always pays to be able to make an informed choice! They can steal your tools but nobody can take away your knowledge! 512 ALWAYS!
I'm an apprentice iron worker in Ohio. My local has so much work we can't even man it all. We have a great pension, and wages that absolutely elevate my class
I’m a first year apprentice with local 86 Ironworkers in Seattle. We have pensions, annuities, great healthcare coverage abs pto. I made 70k last year as a first year apprentice and by the time I’m a journeyman will be making over a 100k a year.
I’m 19 joining a three year apprenticeship for the ironworkers local 628 in Baton Rouge LA. I was a general laborer for construction sites at first but guys tell me that Union is my best option
Yeah I'm not sure I understand what this video is trying to convey. How is iron work being outsourced? Are they building skyscrapers in China and shipping them here? lol
steel jobs are not automated in any way shape or form. We get up there and get our hands dirty connecting, rigging, and welding every single day. how are you gonna sit there and act like technology is putting people out of the job? the truth is there are a lot of trade jobs, not just ironworking, that have empty positions because people around my age group tend to go to college where they go heavily into debt and most of them don't even have a degree to show for it, or worse a gender studies or liberal arts degree. You can easily buy yourself a cheap welding machine, some 7018 rods, and get some scrap steel and start practicing how to weld. many people i work with started welding between 14 and 16 years old. Trade schools are an option as well and cost a lot less than college.
Apprentices listen up. Your reputation will always follow you in the ironworkers. So, be on time, don't drink during lunch, and if you run into something you don't understand, ask questions. You're an apprentice and you're not suppose to know everything. Watch, listen and learn. Show the journeyman some respect and always have the right tools for the job. R D local 25 Detroit retired
Dave Jackowaki never is a bad word to use. In 200 years our society would be a sad place if that wasn’t an automated procedure. There may be a new, unimaginable way of how structures look or are created, and I’m willing to bet in 200 years there will be very few jobs like this. Not trying to stray anyone away from skilled labor as I think it’s an amazing career path for a TON of people, but the future is a mysterious place
Bradley VanTassal you’ve got quite a narrow mind to reply with that comment. It’s low iq and uneducated tradesmen like you who give blue collar workers an unintelligent image.
Wtf is he talking about. Here in Oregon iron workers are high in demand and needed on construction sites. The union has a great pension along with a retirement fund separate from the pension and first term apprentices start at like $22 or $23 an hour. Im strongly considering applying. And journeyman iron workers start at $39 an hour well above minimum wage
I'm a non-union ironworker, so sometimes the hours are hell but the VA jobs are good. You learn a lot while out in the field, it'll teach you common sense
Im assuming you're in a shop local? I appreciate your passion for the history of my, or our, union. People across America benefit from unions, whether they know it or not. Fridays would not exist without us. Carnegie killed people like us and the riots of the Haymarket affair and the deaths of may day, may 1st, enforce it. I got In the trade at 18, 3rd generation, and I'm 9 years deep now. Stay with us. You'll never regret it. United we stand, divided we fall, solidarity.
BLS labor statistics say that Ironworkers as a whole are growing faster than average and pays $14920 more per year compared to the average job. Also, knowing some friends in the LA Union Ironworkers, you have as much OT as you can stomach, and enough work to last for decades. I'm disappointed in the factual basis of this video.
Agreed. If you've got a good local you've got it made. My local has so much available work coming up we're bringing in people from all over just to man it.
I know it’s a long shot for a reply…lol…but I’m in California…the inland empire…any suggestions on how to get started. I just want a steady job to support my family.
It costs the same to print welfare as it does US currency. This nation needs a million more jobs and with everyone working for each other we'll all have more and have a better quality of life
This is a bunch of political mumbo-jumbo, this don’t got nothing to do with ironworking, I shoulda realized it was gonna get political when he started talking about how hard his life was
Ironworker jobs are becoming harder to find? Come to Massachusetts. Ironworker get CONSTANT overtime because there arent enough of them. Jobs arent hard to find. People willing to work hard and have a PLAN are hard to find. You cant just "hope for the best" because then you are at the mercy of life.
Bro she was called a narcissist. We all run into them. They killing all the real men. Sad state of affairs. When the collapse happens you got the skills.
@@jjtmmjjmm2113 what about now with steel sheet metal clean can be expensive works like clay hi and lows shrink cool bust out tig or torch i did a ready for scrap ford 86 its still not done but its like new and i have crazy hours in this thing bed was mangled cab its got a cummins sadly got hurt bad and things are going to be different but im finishing this truck better than new truck all mechanical no electrics to stop me f and r 4 link im going for nice ride on slicks .. 750-800ish streetable power and ill be able to drive again first with hand controls then finally ill have my freedom to drive again im 29 years of age full shop just got hit head on old lady suv and i was on a steel horse day after xmas 2018 .... lots of life to go not losing track of my dreams and sweet resto mods in my shape now i have to find what i can be successful at working before accident sa200 ironworker ready passed the 6g test blind it was a scratch start haha and the guy showed me 5 or 6 close flashes anyway any response would be very valuable to me after years of pain and struggle lets get this proshaper
Moved a move to the longshoreman’s Union after I got my book. The life of an apprentice Ironworker is a struggle. Ironworkers are severely underpaid. Basically working with all millwrights now work is easier compensation is much higher. God bless the millwrights.
Any union ironworkers in NYC ??? Any chance you know if they’re accepting applications ( due to covid )? Please let me know i want to get into this field so badly, love working with my hands.
Just Google your local iron worker union. Its usually posted on the website if and when they take applications. In Oregon its every week on Wednesday. Im gonna apply Iron workers are in high demand. They have 60% turn over rate and need ironwrokers. Its hard work but pays well with great benefits from the union
Shamrock Shore wtf im a ironworker here in arizona and the work for this is busy im getting payed 34 dollers an hour so how is he a fool for being a ironworker
+michael benson When you wrote an isolated 'how', I figured you were a Native American just saying hi. Now i realise you were asking a question...which, when written, is usually followed by a '?'. I didn't say he's a fool because he's training to be an ironworker. I'm saying, he's a fool in general.
I’m in my 1st year of apprenticeship with my local 10. This video is such garbage man, we have steady work year round, hell maybe too much work. The foreman I work with I consider brothers and most of them are over double my age. It’s great. Also an addition to watching the rest of this video and being in 2022, how’d that “trump doesn’t support hard labor” accusation go? Because he helped unions bloom and Biden has fucked over a lot of them.
You probably had your "Monica Lewinsky's" on if you made more money working non union, and paid money for certs, anyone can pay for certs, but through the Union their earned.
I’m sure it’s possible but rare. I worked non union for a few years before I recently just joined the union. I’m making much more now. But if you find a non union company who will treat you better than the unions, than good for you
I graduated 4 years ago from the apprenticeship. This definitely wasn't my dream job growing up it just kind of presented itself through my lady's brother. It's been tough physical work that's taken alot of my time up. But I can comfortably take care of my kids and lady while owning a house, car and not worrying about money in general. The hardest part for me is just how much time I spend at work compared to my home life.
Is near almost 1 year since i finishing welding school, and ive been having a hard time finding a welding opportunity/job. I'm researching unions hopefully is the right choice.
How do you outsource building construction overseas? Does this reporter even know what an ironworker does?
bellboy407 thank you thought I was the only one who noticed that
Exactly
I know right wtf
They build the buildings in China and ship the completed multi-ton steel structure with concrete foundation back to the USA to be installed on the lot.
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My brother is an iron worker. He makes better money than most of my siblings. His union protects him and his job is secure. I hope the same for you. Life is tough for many people and we all have our struggles within our jobs and personal lives. Keep striving! I hope your dreams of having a family have already come true or that you're happy one way or the other.
I’m a union ironworker apprentice and life is good. Everyday is the exact opposite of a struggle. I also have a pension plan so idk what this dude is smoking
He’s depressed clearly. I don’t think he said struggle in the right context. Iron workers union is steady good work and he said as much. Glad you like it.
What do ironworkers do exactly i am struggling to find a welding apprentership but this looks sorta interesting
@@Hardstyler981 are u in NY
@@Hardstyler981same bro what did u do?
@@itsDjjayyArtI am
It's not a struggle when you are trained properly and use your head.
I had an excellent training program and brothers in my union take the time to teach me so much every day.
I'm seeing progress quickly and am stoked to come in every day and practice my new skills.
I make damn good money for an apprentice, have a pension plan, benefits, and work out here is booming.
You need drive and to be both mentally and physically fit to succeed in this trade, as there are so many aspects to it.
Highly skilled professionals make up my union and this video does not paint an accurate picture of what being an ironworker apprentice is really about.
Going to school and joining this trade has changed my life. I am proud to be an ironworker.
Local 97 Vancouver, BC
Yessir 397 Tampa fl✊🏻
Man ironworkers will always be in demand. The trades will always be in demand unlike a fashion designer or a gender studies degree
Cristian Munoz I don't know why people keep spouting dumb crap like this, as if the only alternative to a trade is something useless like gender studies or whatever. If you have the time to complete a four year apprenticeship, you'd be better off spending those four years getting a bachelors degree, becoming an RN, lab med tech, doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc.
That's just dumb.
"If you have time to do a 4 year apprenticeship, you might as well go to college."
Lol.
Apprenticeship is free (minus a couple hundred dollars, plus tooling)
You're paid to learn, instead of paying to learn.
Pension, annuity, healthcare, all paid for by the contractor.
No robot to take your place.
Don't get me wrong, college is a useful tool, and if you're interested in nursing, engineering, architecture, etc.. go to college. But if you're not interested in college and you want a steady career with good pay and great benefits, join a trade union. You're only wasting your time if you are just working cause you have to. If you're doing what you love, you'll never work a day in your life.
@@stab2486 exactly
Mark Grim all education is worth while...I’m a JIW and I went to college too...I value both experiences and am proud to have had them. I don’t care what you do for a living it’s always pays to be able to make an informed choice! They can steal your tools but nobody can take away your knowledge! 512 ALWAYS!
@@a.j.gandenberger6044 I dont think college grad hipster mamas babies can do this kind of work.
I'm an apprentice iron worker in Ohio. My local has so much work we can't even man it all. We have a great pension, and wages that absolutely elevate my class
Anthony Itterly are you local 17
@@sandman3546 local 55
@@sandman3546 I just got excepted in local 17. I hear business is good!
Good man
What about paid vacation
I’m a first year apprentice with local 86 Ironworkers in Seattle. We have pensions, annuities, great healthcare coverage abs pto. I made 70k last year as a first year apprentice and by the time I’m a journeyman will be making over a 100k a year.
I'm about to attend the evaluation day early next year for local 86! I've been practicing my knots cuz that's the part I'm worried about haha
I’m 19 joining a three year apprenticeship for the ironworkers local 628 in Baton Rouge LA. I was a general laborer for construction sites at first but guys tell me that Union is my best option
@@jonlewis4496 lol, that’s the Union I’m joining. How’s the pay and when is it usually busy?
Yeah I'm not sure I understand what this video is trying to convey. How is iron work being outsourced? Are they building skyscrapers in China and shipping them here? lol
@@jonlewis4496should i join. have a opportunity for an apprenticeship jjst kinda don’t know wether to take it or not
steel jobs are not automated in any way shape or form. We get up there and get our hands dirty connecting, rigging, and welding every single day. how are you gonna sit there and act like technology is putting people out of the job? the truth is there are a lot of trade jobs, not just ironworking, that have empty positions because people around my age group tend to go to college where they go heavily into debt and most of them don't even have a degree to show for it, or worse a gender studies or liberal arts degree. You can easily buy yourself a cheap welding machine, some 7018 rods, and get some scrap steel and start practicing how to weld. many people i work with started welding between 14 and 16 years old. Trade schools are an option as well and cost a lot less than college.
brandyn rhode there is a giant welding machine at my job and pipefitters have to operate it
@brandyn rhode exactly
This is the most inaccurate video I have ever seen.........
Apprentices listen up. Your reputation will always follow you in the ironworkers. So, be on time, don't drink during lunch, and if you run into something you don't understand, ask questions. You're an apprentice and you're not suppose to know everything. Watch, listen and learn. Show the journeyman some respect and always have the right tools for the job. R D local 25 Detroit retired
Yep
The erection side of ironwork is not becoming automated whatsoever
JakeBrake I was about to say😂😂
It will never be automated
Dave Jackowaki never is a bad word to use. In 200 years our society would be a sad place if that wasn’t an automated procedure. There may be a new, unimaginable way of how structures look or are created, and I’m willing to bet in 200 years there will be very few jobs like this. Not trying to stray anyone away from skilled labor as I think it’s an amazing career path for a TON of people, but the future is a mysterious place
@@vlKenzo you obviously have no clue what all an ironworker does. Stick to flipping burgers and playing video games in your parents basement.
Bradley VanTassal you’ve got quite a narrow mind to reply with that comment. It’s low iq and uneducated tradesmen like you who give blue collar workers an unintelligent image.
It's never too late man. Ur doing it
Wtf is he talking about. Here in Oregon iron workers are high in demand and needed on construction sites. The union has a great pension along with a retirement fund separate from the pension and first term apprentices start at like $22 or $23 an hour. Im strongly considering applying. And journeyman iron workers start at $39 an hour well above minimum wage
I'm a non-union ironworker, so sometimes the hours are hell but the VA jobs are good. You learn a lot while out in the field, it'll teach you common sense
Of course the Washington post had to bring politics into this.
It's relevant to the story.
I thought the same thing. I’m a Millwright and with Trump my wage increased.
Additude seems like we have a attitude issue.
The winters suck! But GOD BLESS UNION LABOR!!
You guys dont work in rain and snow?
We built the USA what the blue in our flag for then? Red is for protecting what we built
Im assuming you're in a shop local? I appreciate your passion for the history of my, or our, union. People across America benefit from unions, whether they know it or not. Fridays would not exist without us. Carnegie killed people like us and the riots of the Haymarket affair and the deaths of may day, may 1st, enforce it. I got In the trade at 18, 3rd generation, and I'm 9 years deep now. Stay with us. You'll never regret it. United we stand, divided we fall, solidarity.
Bro needs to come to Washington. Spokane and Seattle unions need people badly and the wages here are 70-100k easy.
Hard to imagine ironworker jobs going overseas I thought be in demand
BLS labor statistics say that Ironworkers as a whole are growing faster than average and pays $14920 more per year compared to the average job.
Also, knowing some friends in the LA Union Ironworkers, you have as much OT as you can stomach, and enough work to last for decades.
I'm disappointed in the factual basis of this video.
Any skilled trade and you’ll do well, im a refrigeration mechanic apprentice and journeyman make up to 160k here
Agreed. If you've got a good local you've got it made. My local has so much available work coming up we're bringing in people from all over just to man it.
I know it’s a long shot for a reply…lol…but I’m in California…the inland empire…any suggestions on how to get started. I just want a steady job to support my family.
Not related to video but i switched from cooking to carpenting this year in august !! im 32 Yo !!! ITS NEVER TOO LATE !!!!
It costs the same to print welfare as it does US currency. This nation needs a million more jobs and with everyone working for each other we'll all have more and have a better quality of life
This is a bunch of political mumbo-jumbo, this don’t got nothing to do with ironworking, I shoulda realized it was gonna get political when he started talking about how hard his life was
Wonder how he's doing now
That guy playing pink floyed is my guy
When you get 33% dislikes you start to wonder.
Randy Blackburn over 60 percent now lol
i'm a ibew 130 hand working my way into the iuec 16 i cant believe they don't have a pension in there local.
Ironworker jobs are becoming harder to find? Come to Massachusetts. Ironworker get CONSTANT overtime because there arent enough of them. Jobs arent hard to find. People willing to work hard and have a PLAN are hard to find. You cant just "hope for the best" because then you are at the mercy of life.
John said we are a dieing breed
Terrible representation of ironworking. IW207 get after it mf
Bro she was called a narcissist. We all run into them. They killing all the real men. Sad state of affairs. When the collapse happens you got the skills.
If every day is a struggle, you should find a different job.
The path to success is not necessarily the path of least resistance, think hard bro.
But every day should get easier, if you're paying attention. By the way, I'm a JIW. Have been for some time now.
Good Luck dude 👍🏻
Bradley VanTassal life is struggle
Picket don't cross my line
I’m garbage at math not even gonna bother
UNION!!
I'm a union sheet metal worker over 23 year the future is looking better then I've ever seen thank you Donald Trump.
Local 80 here couldn’t agree more
@@jjtmmjjmm2113 what about now with steel sheet metal clean can be expensive works like clay hi and lows shrink cool bust out tig or torch i did a ready for scrap ford 86 its still not done but its like new and i have crazy hours in this thing bed was mangled cab its got a cummins sadly got hurt bad and things are going to be different but im finishing this truck better than new truck all mechanical no electrics to stop me f and r 4 link im going for nice ride on slicks .. 750-800ish streetable power and ill be able to drive again first with hand controls then finally ill have my freedom to drive again im 29 years of age full shop just got hit head on old lady suv and i was on a steel horse day after xmas 2018 .... lots of life to go not losing track of my dreams and sweet resto mods in my shape now i have to find what i can be successful at working before accident sa200 ironworker ready passed the 6g test blind it was a scratch start haha and the guy showed me 5 or 6 close flashes anyway any response would be very valuable to me after years of pain and struggle lets get this proshaper
Can I borrow your car? Can I use your house for 2 days.
Get that 401k going bud
How long that's gonna last u
Should of been a millwright
Moved a move to the longshoreman’s Union after I got my book. The life of an apprentice Ironworker is a struggle. Ironworkers are severely underpaid. Basically working with all millwrights now work is easier compensation is much higher. God bless the millwrights.
For sure higher middle class by now
it changed i hope u stayed
Any union ironworkers in NYC ??? Any chance you know if they’re accepting applications ( due to covid )? Please let me know i want to get into this field so badly, love working with my hands.
Just Google your local iron worker union. Its usually posted on the website if and when they take applications. In Oregon its every week on Wednesday. Im gonna apply Iron workers are in high demand. They have 60% turn over rate and need ironwrokers. Its hard work but pays well with great benefits from the union
@@funnymanjml how's the vacation
Move cities tf
I was in the carpenters union too why no job I promised this for life
This is completely irrelevant
Posses me off I paid and they take
What is the point of this video????
Lol @ the irrelevant political comments.
I finished college with a 3.6 and they can't find my transcript starting on the bottom again oh man please help Indiana keeps me from Boeing
Ironworkers make absolute bank lmao what's he saying
@berrex, Exactly! He's saying what the Washington Post paid him to say. He's also saying he's a dipsh!t who's a shill & FOS with a few scripted lines.
As an apprentice plus all the money taking out from your pay checks at the time of this vid he would be taking in prob 400 a week
I love you talk like a little girl you’re not made out to be an ironworker
Your right I got my book and got out .
Poor guy
Because Trump never had to work a day in his life
No cause he was smart enough to let his money work for him instead. Learned that from a billionaire
@@quintonmaes8777 his daddy gave him a small loan of a million dollars Haha.
Based pink floyd
Just had to throw politics in there, didn’t you?
This man is a fool
Shamrock Shore how
+michael benson
How. Which tribe/nation are you from?
Shamrock Shore wtf im a ironworker here in arizona and the work for this is busy im getting payed 34 dollers an hour so how is he a fool for being a ironworker
+michael benson
When you wrote an isolated 'how', I figured you were a Native American just saying hi. Now i realise you were asking a question...which, when written, is usually followed by a '?'.
I didn't say he's a fool because he's training to be an ironworker. I'm saying, he's a fool in general.
Shamrock Shore lol ok
Iron work trade lowest payed fr
I make as much as a journeyman iron worker I'm barely a pre apprentice for drywall lather 30n hour in California
You make 30/hr as a pre? Damn, I only made about 15/hr when I was a pre doing drywall like 9 years ago
Interesting 🤔
Do any of them make 7 figures?
Local 378
Boohoo video wtf!
Didn’t know the edit was going to come out like that. The Washington post god bless them sourced out all of the happy moments.
He votes for trump lol
1st bad choice: running behind a girl.
2nd bad decision: voting 4 Trump.
I’m in my 1st year of apprenticeship with my local 10. This video is such garbage man, we have steady work year round, hell maybe too much work. The foreman I work with I consider brothers and most of them are over double my age. It’s great. Also an addition to watching the rest of this video and being in 2022, how’d that “trump doesn’t support hard labor” accusation go? Because he helped unions bloom and Biden has fucked over a lot of them.
Stop smoking crack.
I made a way better living outside of the union than I ever did with them
prove it
Keep telling yourself that
Your full of shot. Let me guess you stepped on the backs of many to boost yourself up and barley get the benefits unions offer.
You probably had your "Monica Lewinsky's" on if you made more money working non union, and paid money for certs, anyone can pay for certs, but through the Union their earned.
I’m sure it’s possible but rare. I worked non union for a few years before I recently just joined the union. I’m making much more now. But if you find a non union company who will treat you better than the unions, than good for you