This was my absolute favorite Star Wars game. I remember playing this as a kid everyday after school. It was the best time for Star Wars game and my childhood.
I love the point where they meet in Mon Mothma's office, talking about crystal mining and such, the discreet background music, is the somber Jedi Temple theme, foreshadowing something Jedi related. It's in the title of course but this little and brilliant touch, sets the mood !
To this very day, I had NO IDEA you were supposed to cross the lower levels on Bespin ON THE LASERS. Always thought you had to go around, speed+jump, then heal after touching the heated pipes. Thanks for the life-changing information! :D
So fun fact: Desann and Tavion each use their own unique lightsaber styles, Desann uses a one-handed variant of the Strong "Red" style and Tavion uses a one-handed variant of the fast "blue" style. Also, in the last level, you can use the force to put out the flames temporarily, and if you deploy the seeker drone in front of the mirror, it will atack where Desann is supposed to be instead of his reflection.
Second fun fact: when fighting Desann you can use your lightsaber to chop down a stone pillar and if it falls on him he dies instantly (same with you though)
There's also technically another lightsaber form, but its only in the GameCube version as far as I'm aware. It's more of a glitch, but if you use a cheat to start the game with the lightsaber, when beat certain levels while wielding it, the next level will load with him holding a different weapon with the blade of the lightsaber coming out of the weapons tip horizontally. The Kyle's movements are the same as if he's swinging it normally, but the blade is in a completely different direction. That port has a TON of glitches that are really cool!
Academy remains, annoyingly, the game with the best lightsaber gameplay. Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor, while excellent, failed to make the lightsaber duels organic like Outcast and Academy did. One day...
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING one of my all time Star Wars Game quotes ever lol. My favorite is from Republic Commando when Scorch hides the Data during the Ghost Ship 🤣🤣🥹
Absolutely fantastic video 👏 great breakdown and wicked use of KOTOR music 🔥 I really enjoyed watching this and the memories it brought back. Thanks for this video man, Outcast is downloading on my PS5 as we speak 🙌
I'm currently playing this game for the first time on Switch and it's already one of my favourites Star wars games. And I'm still in the early levels, no lightsaber nor force powers, just blasting my way through 💥🔫
once you get saber you're in a level surrounded by snipers and grenade lobbers so it is a real buzzkill...the fun really begins once you gtfo of NarShadda lol. The first act of the game /w out lightsaber seems so boring in comparison.
@@GorcStew It's one of the best parts for me. You get by with just your guns, your wits and desperate hope that you can find health or shields. Then, after finally getting the lightsaber, you feel so awesome and powerful. Then you step outside and the snipers show you true power.
Oh dude! I feel so lucky to have stumbled upon this video. This is one of my absolute favorite formats, Big ups to the even audio editing and lack of loud or obnoxious oke edits. I don't remember much about this game because I was reaaally little when I played it but watching this is giving me flashback! Thanks for putting in the hard work, I hope you get some fire bbq soon.
Thanks! that audio was pain thanks to having to replace all the copyrighted tracks but turned out alright I think. It also gave me some flashbacks replaying it. Mostly of young me rage quitting from those snipers lol
Dang man a 2 hour video on an old game by someone with good editing and passion? Thanks algorithm I’ll sub 🍻 Obligatory request for the best Star Wars game ever: KotOR 2
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it! Almost scared to go through the KOTOR series. I love those games so much it would probably turn into a 10 hour video of me wanting to point out every secret and dialog option there is. My Wife and kids would become a distant memory as I edit a video like that haha
The general consensus is that Disney refused to touch the EU because they wanted to avoid paying out rights and seeding any creative control. That's why we got off-brand 'legally distinct' retreads. Thrawn was one of the few exception.
Though i don't care that much for Disney's Thrawn compared to the original I will admit brining him in was a good move by them. He's still good just not as good as Legends
glad you liked it. Probably spent longer than I should have writing the lyrics to it for a 10 second joke lol but I do have a full version made just because it was fun to do
This game was incredible. I was 11 years old playing it endlessly, not even that good at it, but just enjoying being within the world they created… the beginning without the lightsaber made me so impatient 😂
I was around 8 when it came out and had to have my dad beat Nar Shaddaa for me lol I was obsessed with the game regardless and the multiplayer with friends was Awesome back then too!
That level you hated, my favorite and most memorable level lol. I loved the atmosphere, music and vibe. Put away the saber, sniping those snipers was super fun.
Great retrospective of all the games, these were my childhood. I still remember getting jedi outcast for my gamecube for christmas, absolutely loving it, finally getting that lightsaber and then....nar Shadda happened. Also that musical number I spent a good 5 minutes googling trying to find it only to see it was a joke you put in the video 🤣
hahaha yeah I was messing around writing lyrics and plugging them in an AI music creator. thought it was funny so spent way too long creating it for a stupid 10 second joke lol
Wait, you can run across the lasers at bespin!?! I have played the game at least 20 times and always jumped and heal around the outer ring to reach the elevators.
Actually Vice Admiral Thrawn did appear in "Tie Fighter" which came out in the 90s, so that is technically the first appearance of the Schiss in video-games format!
Love the live action Kyle. Jason Court seemed to just really have fun with the role. but the Jeff Bennet version will always be the one i think of if someone mentions Kyle
21:00 I'm pretty sure you can play a mouse droid in the lego star wars games too. I think the cheat/extra that you can play as the extra characters does it
I remember having to think like a Jedi to progress in this game! These old Star Wars games were so good, they got me into the Expanded Universe and now I'm reading full on 300+ page novels about Star Wars. I've never been into reading books! It's scary how good I can picture what's going on in these books just from prior visuals from the video games alone.
That is so true and Outcast did that better than any other game. The puzzles felt like actual things Jedi would do and felt really natural for their environments. The novels are a lot of fun. I'm currently re reading through the entire X-Wing series and man the original EU was so great. Obviously highly recommend the Timothy Zahn books as well!
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I'm halfway through Last Command right now! Heir to the Empire and Dark Force Rising were exactly what I've been missing in Star Wars. These novels are so beautiful they bring tears to my eyes. Can't wait to experience the Jedi Academy with true cannon Luke :D
Hey man your video is amazing. I am so happy that I am not the only one who grew up being super fan of that game series, the story, the lightsaber gameplay man...how good it was. Thanks for this looong video I really love it, I hope you'll get more subscribers you deserve it. :)
Thanks I appreciate it! As fun as it was playing through Dark Forces 1 and Jedi Knight for those videos, it was a blast to finally play Outcast again. Still holds up extremely well
Hey man, new subscriber. These videos are awesome. These early 2000's Lucasfilm games were the highlight of my life. They do make me feel old though.. I know i sound like a boomer but games truly were better back then. Looking forward to more old school starwars games IE Kotor I/II even Force UNleashed.
I am disappointed that I was not able to get father in this game as a kid. I had a lot of trouble on the first level, and I just couldn’t beat the level that starts with you at the bar. I wonder if I went back now could. I beat it without any guides. However I played so many hours in the custom battle mode. It was just so fun playing matches lightsabers only with my friend
That was me for a long time as well. I remember when I finally had a computer to look up how to get past that same level. Nar Shadda is a tough level especially on Xbox where you cant quick save and there's a sniper around every corner. The custom battle mode was rad as hell with friends
This was a fantastic retrospective. I love this game inside and out, it's my favourite Star Wars game ever and I've been inspired to play through it again. I never knew about the force nexus point in the final fight with Dessan, I always just took him on directly so, you've helped me learn something new! A very well put together video with the replacement music and the edit pacing to let us enjoy the story without cutting around anything important. You've earned yourself a subscriber, sir. Looking forward to your next video.
You described the feeling of realizing this was a sequel and not knowing what game 'Jedi Knight 1' was like 😅. I was 11 when this came out and got it on GameCube and it was my favorite star wars game. Still one of my favorites as I'm about to buy it on the PlayStation store. I've enjoyed this review series very much and look forward to Academy!! May the Force be with you and thanks for your hard work!!
I remember that as a kid playing this months after release, I had the thought of using the speed force power to deal with the snipers. It's not the perfect solution, but it does help in aiming at them and charge a shot faster than they can react.
@BBQBARNES-GAMING that invisible wall in the temple at the end: if you wait for a minute and look it is actually moving, and you can hear the fire jets behind it. Much more DF2 than MotS
Shout out to the MP clans that held my childhood together: Knights of Mana, The Final Fantasy, I can’t remember their name but the Storm Troopers like LightKnight, Darksaber (DSbr) folks who pioneered being way too good at a game, LF - who left servers open forever, the role playing clans, the saber only clans, the modding clans, etc. hope yall boys are doing well, 20+ years later
Love your reviews of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series games! These games were hallmarks of my childhood (are great today still)! Indeed, Dark Forces 2 was my "gateway drug" into Star Wars, even before I saw the movies. Curious, where is the Valley of the Jedi duel song from (the one around 4:05)?
Thanks glad you've enjoyed them! Funny thing the song is one I wrote and then messed with an AI to create. I was messing around with it to see how good the AI was. After only a few changes I thought it sounded good so figured why not through it in somehow lol
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I've always felt that too. At least he has an interesting story, unlike Brianna. Obsidian were being so cryptic that she's Kreia's daughter, that would have made her character so much better. Thank you for taking time to reply to me.
Great game, great story. If i have one small complaint about it, is that it felt a bit too short in my first few playthroughs. I am still playing it along with Dark Forces 2, Mysteries of the Sith and Jedi Academy. Other old games too, Thief trilogy, Splinter Cell series, The first Deus Ex, Commandos 1 & 2, Starcraft 1 and 2, Warcraft 3 and more. Older games feel solid with tons of replay value. To clarify, i started pc gaming in my early 30's, yes i am 60 years old. And before anyone gives me shit about my age, my father in law is 90+ and he's playing pc games, single player and even WoW. Gaming is for every age. I consider myself lucky to have started when i did, because kids that grew up with consoles and pc's, don't appreciate the good, old stuff. I see many comments on TH-cam, from young players, actually praising older games.
windows pc jedi outcast is definitively the number one pc game of all time. the base game is brilliant, the skyboxes are gorgeous, and if you use the console it takes it to god tier :)
Loved this game so much. My favorite move was to force jump and then force pull enemies into the air and then laughing as they fell to their deaths. Ah, good times, good times
Did you know… you can keybind your lightsaber, to turn it on/off manually? When I found that as a kid, I thought I was genius. Probably not a huge secret. Something about being able to turn it off after each scrap just added some flavor to the already awesome saber controls. The constant saber hum sound if you don’t turn it off got old after the 1st level with it. Wishing for a 3rd installment of this game just for the combat alone. Love the video 🍻
Great video as always! Nar Shadda was such a shame here because on multiplayer, it was actually a terrific map. I played a lot of multiplayer before ever touching the campaign and, once I did get to the story, I was kind of shocked how bad the source level was.
1:18:23 I thought he was confused because Lando didn't know the Remnant was behind the attack, he's only ever seen Reelo's thugs so Kyle wasn't expecting to see them either.
obiwans saber was made in all 3 colors back then cause its a basic padawan saber- obi never bothered redesigning the hilt like his peers would eventually
Ah man! In my early teens, playing multiplayer, not knowing properly how to play well.... 😢😂 good times. Played a few years ago on a server, and was not the same, but still fun
I once had Desann kill himself by knocking over one of the pillars onto himself while I was standing up above on the platform. Never been able to replicate it again.
Grew up playing these games. Also a huge fan of Luke in TLJ. I like my characters beaten down and learning from their failures. Well, I guess I just like Luke being a character - he doesn’t really come across as one in this game. The clip you used of Luke attacking Ben Solo is from Ben’s distorted memory of the event btw.
I like characters going through a beat down arc however that should been the focus of Rey or Fin. Luke already went through one of the greatest beat down arcs made and had learned his lesson about letting emotions cloud his judgment. It also didn't help it was in a flashback instead of a developed arc that might could work but only if we had more context shown not told. Legends had dozens of stories that with simple changes could have ben great movies especially if they avoided doing a trilogy and instead have focused on unique stories outside the main plots like Rouge one or Solo
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I feel like Rey’s arc of learning to stand on her own two feet, accepting her responsibility, and not allowing others to define her works pretty well, as does Finn’s arc of committing to a just cause. I just think the easy way to bring back Luke is have him be a wise master whose only struggles are external, when tying his fallibility into the creation of the trilogy’s main antagonist makes for a genuinely interesting dynamic. Luke’s imperfections made him relatable to me growing up; I’m glad he didn’t stop growing after RotJ. And his feat of sacrifice and heroism at the end of TLJ remains one of my fav Luke moments just for the sheer virtuosity of his use of the Force and the way he accepts his humanity while embracing his status as this mythic legend. To me, it made the two parts of Luke - the Man and the Myth - finally coexist peacefully in a way none of the Legends stories ever did.
Soooo, for anyone who tries the game and doesn't know this: Change your lightsaber stances depending on situation. Light stance (Blue) has fast speed and low damage, but is the best one for deflecting blaster bolts. Great stance for stormtroopers and criminals. Medium stance (yellow) is the all rounder, good for every situation, but not great in any one of them. Decent speed, decent damage. Blaster bolts will be able to hit you some times, specially against multiple shooters or against weapons with fast rate of fire. Heavy stance (red) is pretty slow but has the most damage. Good luck deflecting blasters with this one, but you can sometimes end lightsaber duels in one or two hits.
You know i was thinking about delaying doing a KOTOR video till i got better at doing videos like this but so many people keep asking i might take a shot at it sooner rather than later. Definitely will be a very long video to make so who knows when I'll get it out lol
@BBQBARNES-GAMING Could try doing like BG or Neverwinter Nights first? Idk if Bioware in general is your thing. Neverwinter Nights is kinda niche but the franchise got a huge boost with BG3.
I'm curious if you've seen any of the interviews with the Raven Software devs on this game. They give a lot of insight on why the game is the way it is (for better and worse). I highly recommend them as someone who's been playing this masterpiece since i was potty trained.
1:32:15 Despite what Kyle says, you definitely can go Rambo on most of these troopers without a problem. The only place where you can't progress without sneaking is the room where you have to turn off the lights.
Pedantic point: there's no such thing as "non copyrighted Star Wars music", every piece of music created for an official Star Wars product is under copyright, and will be until at least 2072. What you presumably mean is "music that's not from the Star Wars movies"
after watching your4h of your previous starwars dark forces games, I bought this game on steam super exicted to play.......aaaaaaand it wont work. FUCK! . Great videos tough and shall watch this one too . Got my popcorn and beer ready
You can enable it in the console commands. just open the console by pressing shift and ` then type in "helpusobi 1" and enter then type "g_saberrealisticcombat 1" and enter Its a ton of fun!
if u loose ur lightsaber just like u did in this video u CAN just click and i will return to u IF their is a path to you but yes u are right if u wait a few mins it does come back to u, but its kinda cool when u drop ur lightsaber and then u click and it comes back towards u, you can turn it on as well so now u have this turned on saber returning to u
58:17 I think the point here was exactly that: Raven knew that everyone will be too eager to use only the lightsaber so they put the player in a situation where using it is a disadvantage. They teach the player that you shouldn't rely too much on the saber and you should still use your other weapons. Be more tactical and not just hack and slash while running around. It also makes a really good point about how simple bounty hunters are able to kill Jedi which was maybe the first time that it was shown. I mean, it was said that people like Jango Fett have killed Jedi but we've never really seen it. Okay, Jango did kill Coleman Trebor in the Geonosian arena but if you ask me it was quite pathetic, meaning that Trebor must have been the lamest of all Jedi. :D
I always play Jedi Outcast at Jedi Master difficulty, but I type in console command undying (999 health) and it grants me 999 hp, then I re-type again undying so it gets turned off, because if it's on, it's kinda like God mode, you are left at 1 hp only and cannot be killed. But you have 999 hp and that's how I roll with this game and enjoy with no torture.
There were no arms lost in the making of phantom menace but a guy got cut in half and another guy lost his life due to being pierced in the upper abdomen by the guy that got cut in half sooo
The sequel trilogy could have easily focused on Kyle and Jan and would have worked well by just changing a few plot points and including the books. what a waste the sequel trilogies were. Just awful and lazy
Second comment: I love this game and the character development Kyle goes through in it. But does Jan turning out to be alive sort of diminish the lesson learned/Kyle's development? Kyle is afraid to use the Force for fear of falling to the dark side and is even warned by Luke not to use the Force if he can't let go of his anger. He hold Tavion (defeated and defenseless) in a Force grip about to drop her into the Bespin pit band only releases her once she tells him that Jan is alive. Had Jan been dead, Kyle would've killed a defeated opponent and moved closer to the dark side. So does he really learn control and overcome and master himself or no since had it not been for things working out in his favor, he'd be on a path of vengeance and destruction and lose himself after all?
Oh had Jan not lived he would have ended Tavion for sure however i wouldn't say it diminishes the lesson but instead changes it. It becomes more about the power of hope and how even a spark of it can rekindle the coldest of hearts. This was before the whole Jedi are supposed to shun attachments stuff that the prequels created so instead it shows how important having attachments can be.
Dark Forces is my masterpiece (in my opinion) for me, each level is so radically different compared to Jedi Outcast, like the Sewers and the Imperial City rather than Bespin 1 and Bespin 2
I would argue that outcast has superior lightsaber gameplay to academy. in academy they ruined the balance of it by adding speedy unblockable katas and combos.
Not to mention you become so powerful that even on Master Difficulty you can walkthrough most the dark Jedi while in Outcast every fight seemed risky making it more fun
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING that's true too. I beat outcast on the hardest difficulty on PC though, then tried it on switch. those darn thumbsticks made it so much harder that I barely won on the easiest skill setting.
Raven made Nar Shaddar the first lightsaber level because earlier in development it wasn't a lightsaber level but decided to give the player the lightsaber earlier.
Yes this is the luke skywalker we wanted He literally refused to kill darth vader and vader was literally a mass murderer at that point and you want me to believe that he tried to kill his nephew because of a dream Nah f**k you disney. Luke from jedi knight series is canon for me
Crime lord using running a garbage collection company as a cover? When did they game come out again? 2002? Yeah, checks out. Nar Shadaa is space New Jersey confirmed.
This was my absolute favorite Star Wars game. I remember playing this as a kid everyday after school. It was the best time for Star Wars game and my childhood.
Same! Except when i was kid i could barely make it through on padawan. The difficulty in Outcast is insane compared to Academy
Were you in a clan? I miss those days 😅😂
I love the point where they meet in Mon Mothma's office, talking about crystal mining and such, the discreet background music, is the somber Jedi Temple theme, foreshadowing something Jedi related. It's in the title of course but this little and brilliant touch, sets the mood !
When you realize it’s a 20 year old game I felt that 😂. I’m a 94 baby. I think you said your a 1993.
Yep we are old men now even if I don't feel it yet haha
To this very day, I had NO IDEA you were supposed to cross the lower levels on Bespin ON THE LASERS.
Always thought you had to go around, speed+jump, then heal after touching the heated pipes.
Thanks for the life-changing information! :D
hahaha yeah they should not have made them red. really confusing choice there
I did the same!! Farout took forever.
Just posted a comment on the same thing! Speed + jump + heal and some sniping
So fun fact: Desann and Tavion each use their own unique lightsaber styles, Desann uses a one-handed variant of the Strong "Red" style and Tavion uses a one-handed variant of the fast "blue" style.
Also, in the last level, you can use the force to put out the flames temporarily, and if you deploy the seeker drone in front of the mirror, it will atack where Desann is supposed to be instead of his reflection.
The different lightsaber styles really added a lot to making every fight feel unique
Second fun fact: when fighting Desann you can use your lightsaber to chop down a stone pillar and if it falls on him he dies instantly (same with you though)
There's also technically another lightsaber form, but its only in the GameCube version as far as I'm aware. It's more of a glitch, but if you use a cheat to start the game with the lightsaber, when beat certain levels while wielding it, the next level will load with him holding a different weapon with the blade of the lightsaber coming out of the weapons tip horizontally. The Kyle's movements are the same as if he's swinging it normally, but the blade is in a completely different direction. That port has a TON of glitches that are really cool!
Academy remains, annoyingly, the game with the best lightsaber gameplay. Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor, while excellent, failed to make the lightsaber duels organic like Outcast and Academy did. One day...
"I'm just a guy with a lightsaber and a few questions "
"A lot of people seem to have those these days."
"Lightsabers?"
"Questions."
Might be the best quote of the game. very dry and witty like something out of Frasier lol
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING one of my all time Star Wars Game quotes ever lol. My favorite is from Republic Commando when Scorch hides the Data during the Ghost Ship 🤣🤣🥹
Absolutely fantastic video 👏 great breakdown and wicked use of KOTOR music 🔥 I really enjoyed watching this and the memories it brought back. Thanks for this video man, Outcast is downloading on my PS5 as we speak 🙌
Thanks! The KOTOR music works for almost anything. Such a great OST. So happy it is now out on modern consoles. It still holds up really well
I'm currently playing this game for the first time on Switch and it's already one of my favourites Star wars games. And I'm still in the early levels, no lightsaber nor force powers, just blasting my way through 💥🔫
It just gets better and better as it goes have fun
once you get saber you're in a level surrounded by snipers and grenade lobbers so it is a real buzzkill...the fun really begins once you gtfo of NarShadda lol. The first act of the game /w out lightsaber seems so boring in comparison.
@@GorcStew It's one of the best parts for me. You get by with just your guns, your wits and desperate hope that you can find health or shields. Then, after finally getting the lightsaber, you feel so awesome and powerful.
Then you step outside and the snipers show you true power.
This brings back a lot of good memories. I played this game A LOT. Also the multiplayer. To me, it's the best Star Wars game ever.
Its still a ton of fun! Its right behind KOTOR for me!
Oh dude! I feel so lucky to have stumbled upon this video. This is one of my absolute favorite formats,
Big ups to the even audio editing and lack of loud or obnoxious oke edits.
I don't remember much about this game because I was reaaally little when I played it but watching this is giving me flashback!
Thanks for putting in the hard work, I hope you get some fire bbq soon.
Thanks! that audio was pain thanks to having to replace all the copyrighted tracks but turned out alright I think.
It also gave me some flashbacks replaying it. Mostly of young me rage quitting from those snipers lol
Thank you for doing the Dark Forces / Jedi Knight series. This is one of my favorite video game series of all times. Your retrospectives are great 😌
Thanks! It's amazing how well they all still hold up. I was worried that Outcast would be less than what I remembered but man it's still a ton of fun
A new video essay on my #1 absolute favorite Star Wars game?!!! YES!
Hope you enjoyed it! :)
Dang man a 2 hour video on an old game by someone with good editing and passion? Thanks algorithm I’ll sub 🍻
Obligatory request for the best Star Wars game ever: KotOR 2
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it!
Almost scared to go through the KOTOR series. I love those games so much it would probably turn into a 10 hour video of me wanting to point out every secret and dialog option there is. My Wife and kids would become a distant memory as I edit a video like that haha
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING 100% Star Wars would sympathise.
The general consensus is that Disney refused to touch the EU because they wanted to avoid paying out rights and seeding any creative control. That's why we got off-brand 'legally distinct' retreads. Thrawn was one of the few exception.
Though i don't care that much for Disney's Thrawn compared to the original I will admit brining him in was a good move by them. He's still good just not as good as Legends
i will never understand why they'll have to pay for rights on star wars related media when they're literally the ones who own the IP
That Kyle faces Jerec song was hilarious 😅
glad you liked it. Probably spent longer than I should have writing the lyrics to it for a 10 second joke lol but I do have a full version made just because it was fun to do
This game was incredible. I was 11 years old playing it endlessly, not even that good at it, but just enjoying being within the world they created… the beginning without the lightsaber made me so impatient 😂
I was around 8 when it came out and had to have my dad beat Nar Shaddaa for me lol I was obsessed with the game regardless and the multiplayer with friends was Awesome back then too!
That level you hated, my favorite and most memorable level lol. I loved the atmosphere, music and vibe. Put away the saber, sniping those snipers was super fun.
Well im glad at least someone out there like it lol :)
@BBQBARNES-GAMING I also enjoyed the level actually.
Great retrospective of all the games, these were my childhood. I still remember getting jedi outcast for my gamecube for christmas, absolutely loving it, finally getting that lightsaber and then....nar Shadda happened.
Also that musical number I spent a good 5 minutes googling trying to find it only to see it was a joke you put in the video 🤣
hahaha yeah I was messing around writing lyrics and plugging them in an AI music creator. thought it was funny so spent way too long creating it for a stupid 10 second joke lol
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I've done it when editing. No where near the same level but sometimes a joke is too good you gotta do it
59:18 Actually, if you crouch while using the scope you can move around.
Really wish I knew that earlier!
This is just so good. Some funny jokes, great facts, you’re a legend.
Thanks! Appreciate you watching
Wait, you can run across the lasers at bespin!?! I have played the game at least 20 times and always jumped and heal around the outer ring to reach the elevators.
Man you are not alone on that one. This is apparently the most commented on segment for the whole video haha
Oh damn. Thanks for the awesome nostalgy trip! This game was a huge part of my childhood.
Thanks for watching. Use to be one of my go to Star wars game as a kid. Still got my original copy for Xbox
Actually Vice Admiral Thrawn did appear in "Tie Fighter" which came out in the 90s, so that is technically the first appearance of the Schiss in video-games format!
Oh man I forgot all about that! Its been ages since I played Tie Fighter or X-Wing. I barely remember much of them unfortunately
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING Not holding it against you man! Just wanted to be an "Achtually"-annoying dude today! :D
This version of Kyle and Dark Forces 2 are the best
Love the live action Kyle. Jason Court seemed to just really have fun with the role. but the Jeff Bennet version will always be the one i think of if someone mentions Kyle
21:00 I'm pretty sure you can play a mouse droid in the lego star wars games too. I think the cheat/extra that you can play as the extra characters does it
Cool so there's at least one other game out there
I remember having to think like a Jedi to progress in this game! These old Star Wars games were so good, they got me into the Expanded Universe and now I'm reading full on 300+ page novels about Star Wars. I've never been into reading books! It's scary how good I can picture what's going on in these books just from prior visuals from the video games alone.
That is so true and Outcast did that better than any other game. The puzzles felt like actual things Jedi would do and felt really natural for their environments. The novels are a lot of fun. I'm currently re reading through the entire X-Wing series and man the original EU was so great. Obviously highly recommend the Timothy Zahn books as well!
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I'm halfway through Last Command right now! Heir to the Empire and Dark Force Rising were exactly what I've been missing in Star Wars. These novels are so beautiful they bring tears to my eyes. Can't wait to experience the Jedi Academy with true cannon Luke :D
Hey man your video is amazing. I am so happy that I am not the only one who grew up being super fan of that game series, the story, the lightsaber gameplay man...how good it was.
Thanks for this looong video I really love it, I hope you'll get more subscribers you deserve it. :)
Thanks I appreciate it! As fun as it was playing through Dark Forces 1 and Jedi Knight for those videos, it was a blast to finally play Outcast again. Still holds up extremely well
Hey man, new subscriber. These videos are awesome. These early 2000's Lucasfilm games were the highlight of my life. They do make me feel old though.. I know i sound like a boomer but games truly were better back then.
Looking forward to more old school starwars games IE Kotor I/II even Force UNleashed.
I am disappointed that I was not able to get father in this game as a kid. I had a lot of trouble on the first level, and I just couldn’t beat the level that starts with you at the bar. I wonder if I went back now could. I beat it without any guides.
However I played so many hours in the custom battle mode. It was just so fun playing matches lightsabers only with my friend
That was me for a long time as well. I remember when I finally had a computer to look up how to get past that same level. Nar Shadda is a tough level especially on Xbox where you cant quick save and there's a sniper around every corner.
The custom battle mode was rad as hell with friends
absolute perfection in pc gaming!! :)
This was a fantastic retrospective. I love this game inside and out, it's my favourite Star Wars game ever and I've been inspired to play through it again.
I never knew about the force nexus point in the final fight with Dessan, I always just took him on directly so, you've helped me learn something new!
A very well put together video with the replacement music and the edit pacing to let us enjoy the story without cutting around anything important. You've earned yourself a subscriber, sir. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks man! Can't wait to get started on Jedi Academy
Loving the reviews - earned a subscriber
Thanks I appreciate it!
This was an absolute blast. Had my attention the entire way through! Can’t wait to see more content from you in the future!!
Thanks! I really appreciate it
You described the feeling of realizing this was a sequel and not knowing what game 'Jedi Knight 1' was like 😅.
I was 11 when this came out and got it on GameCube and it was my favorite star wars game. Still one of my favorites as I'm about to buy it on the PlayStation store.
I've enjoyed this review series very much and look forward to Academy!! May the Force be with you and thanks for your hard work!!
Thanks! Just got done playing through Academy and now onto the loooonng process of writing it up and editing lol
I remember that as a kid playing this months after release, I had the thought of using the speed force power to deal with the snipers. It's not the perfect solution, but it does help in aiming at them and charge a shot faster than they can react.
That is a very good idea!
Still playing to this day
Still a great game!
@BBQBARNES-GAMING that invisible wall in the temple at the end: if you wait for a minute and look it is actually moving, and you can hear the fire jets behind it. Much more DF2 than MotS
Luke hesitated before he said counsel. He was definitely going to lock Desann up.
Shout out to the MP clans that held my childhood together: Knights of Mana, The Final Fantasy, I can’t remember their name but the Storm Troopers like LightKnight, Darksaber (DSbr) folks who pioneered being way too good at a game, LF - who left servers open forever, the role playing clans, the saber only clans, the modding clans, etc. hope yall boys are doing well, 20+ years later
The 00s was one of the best eras for online gaming. Great Memories
This was excellent, such a fun watch. Also if you don't mind me saying you have a great presenter voice
Thanks man!
Great video!
Thanks!
Love your reviews of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series games! These games were hallmarks of my childhood (are great today still)! Indeed, Dark Forces 2 was my "gateway drug" into Star Wars, even before I saw the movies. Curious, where is the Valley of the Jedi duel song from (the one around 4:05)?
Thanks glad you've enjoyed them! Funny thing the song is one I wrote and then messed with an AI to create. I was messing around with it to see how good the AI was. After only a few changes I thought it sounded good so figured why not through it in somehow lol
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I did sound good! It's amazing the things AI can craft nowadays!
You had me at "Non-Boring version of Bao-Dur" XD
haha yeah his voice lulls me to sleep every time. he has a good back story though
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I've always felt that too. At least he has an interesting story, unlike Brianna. Obsidian were being so cryptic that she's Kreia's daughter, that would have made her character so much better. Thank you for taking time to reply to me.
I'll never forget the first time I got the light saber in this game. It was incredible 😂
oh man first time seeing i could cut off their arm with it was insane to me as a kid. lol
Great game, great story. If i have one small complaint about it, is that it felt a bit too short in my first few playthroughs.
I am still playing it along with Dark Forces 2, Mysteries of the Sith and Jedi Academy. Other old games too, Thief trilogy, Splinter Cell series, The first Deus Ex, Commandos 1 & 2, Starcraft 1 and 2, Warcraft 3 and more. Older games feel solid with tons of replay value.
To clarify, i started pc gaming in my early 30's, yes i am 60 years old. And before anyone gives me shit about my age, my father in law is 90+ and he's playing pc games, single player and even WoW. Gaming is for every age. I consider myself lucky to have started when i did, because kids that grew up with consoles and pc's, don't appreciate the good, old stuff. I see many comments on TH-cam, from young players, actually praising older games.
Thats awesome to still be gaming at 60! I hope to still be playing through Half-Life 1, Halo and Rome Total War when i'm that old.
windows pc jedi outcast is definitively the number one pc game of all time. the base game is brilliant, the skyboxes are gorgeous, and if you use the console it takes it to god tier :)
Loved this game so much. My favorite move was to force jump and then force pull enemies into the air and then laughing as they fell to their deaths. Ah, good times, good times
Chaining together powers like that was always so fun!
Did you know… you can keybind your lightsaber, to turn it on/off manually? When I found that as a kid, I thought I was genius. Probably not a huge secret.
Something about being able to turn it off after each scrap just added some flavor to the already awesome saber controls. The constant saber hum sound if you don’t turn it off got old after the 1st level with it.
Wishing for a 3rd installment of this game just for the combat alone.
Love the video 🍻
Oh yeah its pretty fun to mess with before enter a room with a Reborn. Feels cinematic as hell!
Great video as always! Nar Shadda was such a shame here because on multiplayer, it was actually a terrific map. I played a lot of multiplayer before ever touching the campaign and, once I did get to the story, I was kind of shocked how bad the source level was.
It's multiplayer map is so much fun. Jumping from the catwalks onto people surprising them was always great.
i consider outcast and academy to be all one big game :)
In the tunnels in the academy you can force push the fire pillars and it deactivates them so you can walk past
The nar sharda level has the long lost brothers of the jackal snipers from halo 2 on legendary lol.
Oh god tell me about. to be honest on jedi mater difficulty it might be worse. then again I'm better at fps games then 3rd person games
1:18:23 I thought he was confused because Lando didn't know the Remnant was behind the attack, he's only ever seen Reelo's thugs so Kyle wasn't expecting to see them either.
Possibly
obiwans saber was made in all 3 colors back then cause its a basic padawan saber- obi never bothered redesigning the hilt like his peers would eventually
Raven Studios is where Kyle's ship The Ravens Claw gets its name.
Ah man! In my early teens, playing multiplayer, not knowing properly how to play well.... 😢😂 good times. Played a few years ago on a server, and was not the same, but still fun
Yeah I still don't understand how people are so good at its multiplayer. I think I'm alright and then get slaughtered lol
I once had Desann kill himself by knocking over one of the pillars onto himself while I was standing up above on the platform. Never been able to replicate it again.
That's what I love about old games. So many crazy things like that happening
What on earth is the song at 4:00 I tried googling it and cant find anything but the music for the level, no song or lyrics.
Made the song with AI. Spent like an hour making lyrics for a full song all for a 10 second joke haha
Hope you do Academy next
Working on editing it now!
9:03 In my head canon Kyle is Revan reincarnated because they both had the same voice actors at some point. :D
I mean Kyle did fall to the darkside and came back using both light and dark force powers to defeat future enemies haha.
Omg i can HEAR Dr. Chakwas
It's one of those things once you notice you can't un hear lol
I always wondered what Desann's race is since you never see any others like him in any other starwars game, show or movie.
I really would like to see more of them. They seem like an interesting warrior like species similar to the Nogri.
Grew up playing these games. Also a huge fan of Luke in TLJ. I like my characters beaten down and learning from their failures. Well, I guess I just like Luke being a character - he doesn’t really come across as one in this game.
The clip you used of Luke attacking Ben Solo is from Ben’s distorted memory of the event btw.
I like characters going through a beat down arc however that should been the focus of Rey or Fin. Luke already went through one of the greatest beat down arcs made and had learned his lesson about letting emotions cloud his judgment. It also didn't help it was in a flashback instead of a developed arc that might could work but only if we had more context shown not told. Legends had dozens of stories that with simple changes could have ben great movies especially if they avoided doing a trilogy and instead have focused on unique stories outside the main plots like Rouge one or Solo
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I feel like Rey’s arc of learning to stand on her own two feet, accepting her responsibility, and not allowing others to define her works pretty well, as does Finn’s arc of committing to a just cause.
I just think the easy way to bring back Luke is have him be a wise master whose only struggles are external, when tying his fallibility into the creation of the trilogy’s main antagonist makes for a genuinely interesting dynamic. Luke’s imperfections made him relatable to me growing up; I’m glad he didn’t stop growing after RotJ. And his feat of sacrifice and heroism at the end of TLJ remains one of my fav Luke moments just for the sheer virtuosity of his use of the Force and the way he accepts his humanity while embracing his status as this mythic legend.
To me, it made the two parts of Luke - the Man and the Myth - finally coexist peacefully in a way none of the Legends stories ever did.
"In the real legends Canon"
Ah yeah I'm really emotionally attached to Crystal Star
You were suppose to run on the laser grid on lower bespin? ><
I had to run and jump these beams
haha that's my point those red laser scream death, not run on me.
When you use force speed you can avoid sniper fire.
At least in Jadi Academy it was that way.
Soooo, for anyone who tries the game and doesn't know this:
Change your lightsaber stances depending on situation.
Light stance (Blue) has fast speed and low damage, but is the best one for deflecting blaster bolts. Great stance for stormtroopers and criminals.
Medium stance (yellow) is the all rounder, good for every situation, but not great in any one of them.
Decent speed, decent damage. Blaster bolts will be able to hit you some times, specially against multiple shooters or against weapons with fast rate of fire.
Heavy stance (red) is pretty slow but has the most damage.
Good luck deflecting blasters with this one, but you can sometimes end lightsaber duels in one or two hits.
it might not seem like a lot but those 3 stances help add so much versatility to the game
@55:25 actually Darth Maul loses both his legs since he lived to tell the tale in CW
Lost his legs but at least none of his arms lol
jedi outcast and jedi academy both are still playable in the pc demo if you google for the demo trial versions :) for free
Mara Jade addon is underrates
Its definitely fun but id put it a the bottom of the series. It is awesome to see Mara Jade though
Any plans to do Kotor, Swtor or any other older SW entry?
Perhaps Galactic Battlegrounds or the Jedi Star Fighter games?
You know i was thinking about delaying doing a KOTOR video till i got better at doing videos like this but so many people keep asking i might take a shot at it sooner rather than later. Definitely will be a very long video to make so who knows when I'll get it out lol
@BBQBARNES-GAMING Could try doing like BG or Neverwinter Nights first?
Idk if Bioware in general is your thing. Neverwinter Nights is kinda niche but the franchise got a huge boost with BG3.
I'm curious if you've seen any of the interviews with the Raven Software devs on this game. They give a lot of insight on why the game is the way it is (for better and worse). I highly recommend them as someone who's been playing this masterpiece since i was potty trained.
If you mean the one on the JKhub channel for the 20th anniversary then yes! Really good 2+ hour interview.
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING That's the one!
1:32:15 Despite what Kyle says, you definitely can go Rambo on most of these troopers without a problem. The only place where you can't progress without sneaking is the room where you have to turn off the lights.
So long as you protect the security consoles so they cant call for help but that can be more of pain than sneaking is.
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING I've done it before so it is doable. :D
Pedantic point: there's no such thing as "non copyrighted Star Wars music", every piece of music created for an official Star Wars product is under copyright, and will be until at least 2072.
What you presumably mean is "music that's not from the Star Wars movies"
after watching your4h of your previous starwars dark forces games, I bought this game on steam super exicted to play.......aaaaaaand it wont work. FUCK! . Great videos tough and shall watch this one too . Got my popcorn and beer ready
The old republic mmo, one of the expansions you play as a mouse Droid remotely in a very similar way
Glad to see the mouse droids getting some love lol
jedi outcast and jedi academy both are playable on a windows pc with steam :)
Cortosis is now in the Canon, with Star Wars Acolyte. 🎉
Given they already abandoned the show is it still canon lol
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING 😂 makes you wonder
How do you access the full dimemberment
You can enable it in the console commands. just open the console by pressing shift and `
then type in "helpusobi 1" and enter
then type "g_saberrealisticcombat 1" and enter
Its a ton of fun!
if u loose ur lightsaber just like u did in this video u CAN just click and i will return to u IF their is a path to you but yes u are right if u wait a few mins it does come back to u, but its kinda cool when u drop ur lightsaber and then u click and it comes back towards u, you can turn it on as well so now u have this turned on saber returning to u
its little things like that that make the game fun and the fact it can happen to the AI enemies too is great
where did you find the musical tho? xDD
Wrote the lyrics and used an AI to create the music. Spent way too long making a 10 second joke haha
@BBQBARNES-GAMING amazing lol XD
The writing in these games are 100x better than the Disney movies.
58:17 I think the point here was exactly that: Raven knew that everyone will be too eager to use only the lightsaber so they put the player in a situation where using it is a disadvantage. They teach the player that you shouldn't rely too much on the saber and you should still use your other weapons. Be more tactical and not just hack and slash while running around. It also makes a really good point about how simple bounty hunters are able to kill Jedi which was maybe the first time that it was shown. I mean, it was said that people like Jango Fett have killed Jedi but we've never really seen it. Okay, Jango did kill Coleman Trebor in the Geonosian arena but if you ask me it was quite pathetic, meaning that Trebor must have been the lamest of all Jedi. :D
Man as a kid I remember having a Trebor action figure. They really made toys of everyone back then lol
You can play as a mouse droid in SWTOR.
Hey there we go one more game showing the hard working mouse droid some appreciation
I always play Jedi Outcast at Jedi Master difficulty, but I type in console command undying (999 health) and it grants me 999 hp, then I re-type again undying so it gets turned off, because if it's on, it's kinda like God mode, you are left at 1 hp only and cannot be killed. But you have 999 hp and that's how I roll with this game and enjoy with no torture.
Sounds like a fun way to play. Console commands are always fun to mess around with
There were no arms lost in the making of phantom menace but a guy got cut in half and another guy lost his life due to being pierced in the upper abdomen by the guy that got cut in half sooo
haha true
Wait?? Admiral Fyyar = Jamie from Megas?? Childhood is complete lol
Holy crap that's a call back. Used to love Megas XLR back in the day! Such a stupid but fun show
The best SW game series.
Damn I hate Disney taking Kyle and this Luke away from us.
The sequel trilogy could have easily focused on Kyle and Jan and would have worked well by just changing a few plot points and including the books. what a waste the sequel trilogies were. Just awful and lazy
Second comment: I love this game and the character development Kyle goes through in it. But does Jan turning out to be alive sort of diminish the lesson learned/Kyle's development? Kyle is afraid to use the Force for fear of falling to the dark side and is even warned by Luke not to use the Force if he can't let go of his anger. He hold Tavion (defeated and defenseless) in a Force grip about to drop her into the Bespin pit band only releases her once she tells him that Jan is alive. Had Jan been dead, Kyle would've killed a defeated opponent and moved closer to the dark side. So does he really learn control and overcome and master himself or no since had it not been for things working out in his favor, he'd be on a path of vengeance and destruction and lose himself after all?
Oh had Jan not lived he would have ended Tavion for sure however i wouldn't say it diminishes the lesson but instead changes it. It becomes more about the power of hope and how even a spark of it can rekindle the coldest of hearts. This was before the whole Jedi are supposed to shun attachments stuff that the prequels created so instead it shows how important having attachments can be.
Dark Forces is my masterpiece (in my opinion) for me, each level is so radically different compared to Jedi Outcast, like the Sewers and the Imperial City rather than Bespin 1 and Bespin 2
The imperial City level is still incredible. DF1 was way ahead of it's time
got the original 2004 disk on 1 dollar, not a single scratch
That's awesome
force sense or speed, cant remember which, automatically dodges sniper shots. makes dealing with snipers easy
How have i gone so long not knowing this lol
At least this game had proper dismemberment. 😏
for real though its crazy haha
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING and this combined with the command that wont let bodies disappear: seta g_corpseRemovalTime 0 was pure gold. 😅
And this combined with the command that wont let bodies disappear: seta g_corpseRemovalTime 0 was pure gold 😅
Was I the only one who thought that Kyle’s character model had constant pit stains?
I can see that lol
these crab things...... just run pass them at all times
yep every time
I would argue that outcast has superior lightsaber gameplay to academy. in academy they ruined the balance of it by adding speedy unblockable katas and combos.
Not to mention you become so powerful that even on Master Difficulty you can walkthrough most the dark Jedi while in Outcast every fight seemed risky making it more fun
@@BBQBARNES-GAMING that's true too. I beat outcast on the hardest difficulty on PC though, then tried it on switch. those darn thumbsticks made it so much harder that I barely won on the easiest skill setting.
JESUS CHRIST THAT'S A LONG VIDEO
Haha yeah man breakdown of every level. Took forever to edit
Raven made Nar Shaddar the first lightsaber level because earlier in development it wasn't a lightsaber level but decided to give the player the lightsaber earlier.
That actually makes a lot sense
Yes this is the luke skywalker we wanted
He literally refused to kill darth vader and vader was literally a mass murderer at that point and you want me to believe that he tried to kill his nephew because of a dream
Nah f**k you disney. Luke from jedi knight series is canon for me
Disney has no idea what Star Wars is, Legends is the true Canon for Star Wars
Crime lord using running a garbage collection company as a cover? When did they game come out again? 2002? Yeah, checks out. Nar Shadaa is space New Jersey confirmed.
Hey now don't insult Nar Shadaa like that
Bao-Dur is very boring, you're not wrong.