+lekkousa They didn't pollute any more than 4 strokes when they were running right. Engineers even put sophisticated controls on them and got them within the new European standards for emmision. They quit making them because they were to reliable and didn't break that much. Another bullshit government corruption thing. Our country is full of them.
Can't B you For road use, I will have to agree with that. They had a narrow power band, and truckers who had these engines would always rev them wide open. I think they were great for stationary use though, like with pumps, generators, cranes, and marine. They could run all day long at 100% duty cycle and not miss a beat
i replaced a generator that had one of these engines,i was not there, it ran out of control, fuel was shut off, the person tried cutting off air, it kept running at full rpm, some how it ran on it own oil only to stop when it blew up!! what a mess!! there was not one part on engine that was worth saving, 90 percent of connecting rods broke and put holes in the block!! when all cooled down, i reached threw block hole an got some souvenirs lol
Yeah ya just can't stop one of these monsters when they decide to run away. In my high school diesel class we had a 6-71 run away, it launched the flywheel and the thing took off and went through two concrete walls (The flywheel) after all was said and done. We got the motor shut down by using a C02 extinguisher on the intake.
Yea, that's 10,849 Lbs. of solid fury running there, in that Detroit Diesel 16V149T engine. This engine is used in some big Rimpull-Dart and Unit Rig mining trucks, tractor and dump, both. I like how the technician/engineer took the rhythmic pulse out of the high idle, I'm thinking, but could be wrong, that it might be air in the fuel line. Per unit displacement, these Detroit Diesel Series 149 engines are quite heavy and the toughest you could buy.
It needs more adjustments, the buffer needs go in a little. You have to set the RPM and when is set, then you go with the buffer for final idle adjustments. All Detroits are with this adjustments. Good job and looks you're having a lot of fun! In a former working place, we had one of those, as soon the engien was fired up, it went to high rpm, to 1,800 and this caused engine oil problem. I said this motor should have some time to warm up. They it can't work like that. Well, it was not my area assigned.
Some Detroits got no warm up time in service. General Electric Frame 5 gas turbine generator sets had a Detroit Diesel starting motor. It was a twin turbo 12V-71 and was rated 600 horsepower. It didn't get much warm up time at all. It would start and idle for about 10 seconds then ramp up to wide open governor in another 10 seconds. The Detroit ran through a Twin Disc torque converter which turned the turbine shaft by a one way jaw clutch. It would scream for about 5 minutes while cranking the turbine to 20% speed when the combustion system would light off and accelerate the turbine, gearbox and generator. The Detroit would help the turbine to gain speed until it out accelerated the jaw clutch. The Detroit would return to idle and cool down for a few minutes. What a harsh life for those 12V-71's.
I do have a few questions. 1 Is it started by compressed air or an electric motor? 2 How much did they typically weigh? 3 Do you know anything significant about its rare cousin the 20v149?
+David Vermillion # 1) electric starter, when it goes back on the trailer it will have a hydraulic starter.# 2) about 11000 lbs dry. # 3) I know about the 20V149
How to accelerate the engine high rpm by pushing the small speed control rod, pulling upward or pressing down? In this video I can't see ur hand action
Would it be possible to hook a transmission to this thing? I realize the weight is insane and it's clearly not meant to be in a vehicle. But I cant help but wonder
+Benny1581 nope, these are either tied to generator's or massive pumps with a direct connection. There is no transmission built to handle the 3-4000 ft-lbs of torque these engines put out.
+ADANAC A diesel-electric system / diesel-hydraulic would be cheaper. Say a electric generator/hydraulic pump linked to this engine, Each axle/ wheel could have an attached electric motor/ hydraulic motor and power could be sent to each via wires or hydraulic hoses. There would be no need for expensive and bulky uber-grade gearing and what not in a transmission. Doing that would be cheaper than a traditional transmission, and would let this engine simply run at max power without needing to rev up or down (something its not good at).
Sure miss the great 2 cycle Jimmies!
Parts were cheap, they were easy to work on and very reliable.
Thx EPA
+lekkousa They didn't pollute any more than 4 strokes when they were running right. Engineers even put sophisticated
controls on them and got them within the new European standards for emmision. They quit making them because
they were to reliable and didn't break that much. Another bullshit government corruption thing. Our country is full
of them.
+lekkousa I think a lot had to do with fuel consumption, they weren't exactly fuel efficient.
Can't B you
For road use, I will have to agree with
that. They had a narrow power band, and truckers who had these engines would always rev them wide open. I think they were great for stationary use though, like with pumps, generators, cranes, and marine. They could run all day long at 100% duty cycle and not miss a beat
Hey Buddy and you're right about the garbage but they're still being made for the military. Go figure.
Sorry fellas too heavy not enough torque and not nearly reliable as a four stroke. Best sounding engine ever though.
2,384 cubic inches of pure American muscle !!!
i replaced a generator that had one of these engines,i was not there, it ran out of control, fuel was shut off, the person tried cutting off air, it kept running at full rpm, some how it ran on it own oil only to stop when it blew up!! what a mess!! there was not one part on engine that was worth saving, 90 percent of connecting rods broke and put holes in the block!! when all cooled down, i reached threw block hole an got some souvenirs lol
Yeah ya just can't stop one of these monsters when they decide to run away. In my high school diesel class we had a 6-71 run away, it launched the flywheel and the thing took off and went through two concrete walls (The flywheel) after all was said and done. We got the motor shut down by using a C02 extinguisher on the intake.
BS... No diesel, can continue to run without Air to support combustion.
Love that sound. Insanity
Anyone else think this thing sounds absolutely pissed off?? My God what an engine!
Makes me miss my dad .
Dude had better watch his pant leg near that crankshaft.
Yea, that's 10,849 Lbs. of solid fury running there, in that Detroit Diesel 16V149T engine. This engine is used in some big Rimpull-Dart and Unit Rig mining trucks, tractor and dump, both. I like how the technician/engineer took the rhythmic pulse out of the high idle, I'm thinking, but could be wrong, that it might be air in the fuel line. Per unit displacement, these Detroit Diesel Series 149 engines are quite heavy and the toughest you could buy.
It needs more adjustments, the buffer needs go in a little. You have to set the RPM and when is set, then you go with the buffer for final idle adjustments. All Detroits are with this adjustments. Good job and looks you're having a lot of fun! In a former working place, we had one of those, as soon the engien was fired up, it went to high rpm, to 1,800 and this caused engine oil problem. I said this motor should have some time to warm up. They it can't work like that. Well, it was not my area assigned.
+JORGE E Thomas It doesn't have a buffer screw, instead it has a hydraulic governor. The droop needs adjusting.
Very true. A diesel needs time to limber up. If I'd bveen there and they cranked it hammered, I'd RUN!
yea its hunting a wee bit
REad the description.
Some Detroits got no warm up time in service.
General Electric Frame 5 gas turbine generator sets had a Detroit Diesel starting motor. It was a twin turbo 12V-71 and was rated 600 horsepower. It didn't get much warm up time at all. It would start and idle for about 10 seconds then ramp up to wide open governor in another 10 seconds.
The Detroit ran through a Twin Disc torque converter which turned the turbine shaft by a one way jaw clutch. It would scream for about 5 minutes while cranking the turbine to 20% speed when the combustion system would light off and accelerate the turbine, gearbox and generator. The Detroit would help the turbine to gain speed until it out accelerated the jaw clutch. The Detroit would return to idle and cool down for a few minutes.
What a harsh life for those 12V-71's.
I do have a few questions.
1 Is it started by compressed air or an electric motor?
2 How much did they typically weigh?
3 Do you know anything significant about its rare cousin the 20v149?
+David Vermillion # 1) electric starter, when it goes back on the trailer it will have a hydraulic starter.# 2) about 11000 lbs dry. # 3) I know about the 20V149
Would be a great motor to put on a Prius.
What a Beast. 😎
100% duty cycle all day long.
This sounds like it could power a diesel switcher locomotive!
What size turbos does this beast of an engine use?
How to accelerate the engine high rpm by pushing the small speed control rod, pulling upward or pressing down? In this video I can't see ur hand action
Nice ! Hp and rpm ?
Factory rating was 1070 hp (798 kW) @ 1900 rpm, 3106 lb.ft, (4212 Nm) @ 1400 rpm I think but could be more.
Thanks !
Might from I can buy service manual for this 149 series?
Would it be possible to hook a transmission to this thing? I realize the weight is insane and it's clearly not meant to be in a vehicle. But I cant help but wonder
+Benny1581 nope, these are either tied to generator's or massive pumps with a direct connection. There is no transmission built to handle the 3-4000 ft-lbs of torque these engines put out.
+Can't B you
I think TWIN DISC would argue with that statement. 16-149's are used through the marine industry.
+Shawn McWhorter SAE#0 bellhousing, wt-12,500 w/out marine transmission.
+ADANAC A diesel-electric system / diesel-hydraulic would be cheaper. Say a electric generator/hydraulic pump linked to this engine, Each axle/ wheel could have an attached electric motor/ hydraulic motor and power could be sent to each via wires or hydraulic hoses. There would be no need for expensive and bulky uber-grade gearing and what not in a transmission.
Doing that would be cheaper than a traditional transmission, and would let this engine simply run at max power without needing to rev up or down (something its not good at).
+ADANAC The one's that I worked on had Allison's or Twin Dics. behind them.
If I extended the frame of my '01 Dodge 2500, could I get this to fit?
Used in mining trucks and earth movers
Nice one
Lol 2,000lbs of torque at 300RPM
Redline of 400RPM