I hope they nerf that shit hunters are clinging to that shit to be relevant imagine abusing aim assist in a game where we can’t take off aim assist anyone playing hunter this season is fucking garbage and attends diddy parties as the VIP
Every argument calling HCs underpowered falls apart the second you go from using them how you want to (open air dueling) to how they're most potently used (peekshotting). And not to sound like a nerd but the skillshot weapon having an accuracy cone the size of a coconut is never not going to be funny
Hand cannons are top 3 archetype at least now for sure probably behind 340 pulses and 600 smgs on small maps. I also think the video was before the hand cannon and health buffs as well, anyways during that timeframe or era 450 autos and 340 pulses were the best. And also crisis inverted is terrible I have one with almost 600 kills it just isn’t good especially when you play against actual good players with top tier weapons that isn’t a valid point.
@@Cassernn the video was recorded after checkmate so the sandbox is still the same now, and I used crisis to show you can use terrible hand cannons and they will still be broken
@@LarryTrucker oh ok and like I said previously crisis inverted is buns anyone with a good shot especially in trials or comp would kill you doesn’t even matter the archetype or weapon honestly but you get constant ghost bullets with it, it just isn’t reliable at all against good players
Unless 140 and 120 hand cannons get nerfed to hell and back they will always be the best weapon type in crucible just based on how the gun works, it has: 1. The most versatile dueling range/zoom of all primaries, you can challenge a rifle user from relatively far away while still being able to aim at someone running towards you with an smg or sidearm. 2. Ability to peekshot from behind cover, something which any auto weapon isn't able to do 3. TTK doesn't change even if you are of a slightly lower power than the opponent in gamemodes like Trials 4. A decent amount of peripheral vision even when ADS Literally every other primary weapon archetype suffers from some issue that makes it worse than a hand cannon in pvp. Even if a hand cannon was given the worst perks possible to mankind as long as it's scope and feel is alright it will be incredibly easy to pop off with it.
We've been in a handcannon shotgun meta since the ice age at this point, glad I am not insane when I hear people like "oh handcannons aren't that good, they are like a really high skill weapon" and I just think they are just dogshit at the game.
Me when my favourite hand cannon is bad (it’s exalted truth and I like it because it feels good and performs well). Honestly I don’t understand when people say that hcs are bad, bc they aren’t. Imo 140s feel like one of the most balanced weapon archetypes in the game. Good review, here’s a sub and a like.
handcannon users expect to be able to slide out and gun anyone at any range. Like any other weapon, you have to play its strength and weaknesses.(peekshot) But i still think pulses are too strong rn
People who say handcannons are bad after seeing the rose and igneous hammer usage numbers: 😮 Schizo paragraph incoming I feel like most people who say shit like "handcannons suck" only say it because it gives them some sort of vindication when they play well with them. I imagine this is because handcannons are kind of the flagship weapon type of destiny at this point, so when sweaty handcannon players get beat by a pulse, auto, scout or anything else they like to complain about how bad handcannons are whilst blatantly ignoring their massive advantages like their AA, magnetism, flexibility and capability to peek shoot. They are definitely not and have pretty much never been bad throughout the whole lifespan of D2 or even D1. It reminds me of shotgun users who love to attack anyone who uses any other special (fusions, gls, glaives etc) and will die on the hill that shotguns are these massively skilful weapons when in reality 95% of shotgun gameplay is sitting on a corner and waiting for someone to push. One of the biggest purveyors of the "handcannons bad" stigma is a youtuber called known as sys, his content is actually quite good but contains really stupid remarks whenever he is discussing anything that isn't a handcannon or shotgun.
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You are wrong, the biggest hand cannon hater is me (good video)
Thank you
claiming a top 3 archetype only has 4 good weapons is crazy
no idea what bro was on to have to claim that there was only like rose, ace and hawkmoon
8:43 you turning the corner to find 3 strand clones absolutely sent me lmao. We love threaded specter
I hope they nerf that shit hunters are clinging to that shit to be relevant imagine abusing aim assist in a game where we can’t take off aim assist anyone playing hunter this season is fucking garbage and attends diddy parties as the VIP
Every argument calling HCs underpowered falls apart the second you go from using them how you want to (open air dueling) to how they're most potently used (peekshotting). And not to sound like a nerd but the skillshot weapon having an accuracy cone the size of a coconut is never not going to be funny
Hand cannons are top 3 archetype at least now for sure probably behind 340 pulses and 600 smgs on small maps. I also think the video was before the hand cannon and health buffs as well, anyways during that timeframe or era 450 autos and 340 pulses were the best. And also crisis inverted is terrible I have one with almost 600 kills it just isn’t good especially when you play against actual good players with top tier weapons that isn’t a valid point.
@@Cassernn the video was recorded after checkmate so the sandbox is still the same now, and I used crisis to show you can use terrible hand cannons and they will still be broken
@@LarryTrucker oh ok and like I said previously crisis inverted is buns anyone with a good shot especially in trials or comp would kill you doesn’t even matter the archetype or weapon honestly but you get constant ghost bullets with it, it just isn’t reliable at all against good players
Kept Confidence is a better PvP hand cannon than any you can find, and it's a 140.
Yeah it’s probably my favorite weapon in Destiny history it just feels amazing I even have a gunshot roll with over 1,000 kills on it
Unless 140 and 120 hand cannons get nerfed to hell and back they will always be the best weapon type in crucible just based on how the gun works, it has:
1. The most versatile dueling range/zoom of all primaries, you can challenge a rifle user from relatively far away while still being able to aim at someone running towards you with an smg or sidearm.
2. Ability to peekshot from behind cover, something which any auto weapon isn't able to do
3. TTK doesn't change even if you are of a slightly lower power than the opponent in gamemodes like Trials
4. A decent amount of peripheral vision even when ADS
Literally every other primary weapon archetype suffers from some issue that makes it worse than a hand cannon in pvp. Even if a hand cannon was given the worst perks possible to mankind as long as it's scope and feel is alright it will be incredibly easy to pop off with it.
I agree
We've been in a handcannon shotgun meta since the ice age at this point, glad I am not insane when I hear people like "oh handcannons aren't that good, they are like a really high skill weapon" and I just think they are just dogshit at the game.
I feel Iike handcannons are in a alright spot tbh
Me when my favourite hand cannon is bad (it’s exalted truth and I like it because it feels good and performs well). Honestly I don’t understand when people say that hcs are bad, bc they aren’t. Imo 140s feel like one of the most balanced weapon archetypes in the game. Good review, here’s a sub and a like.
I wish I had a good adept one
handcannon users expect to be able to slide out and gun anyone at any range. Like any other weapon, you have to play its strength and weaknesses.(peekshot) But i still think pulses are too strong rn
@@Max1497-qt1kv yea zen moment and headseeker on 340s was a mistake 💀
preaching the good word brother Trucker
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wouldn't zen not forgotten be better than any lunas roll?
Lunas has potentially better stats and slide/opening shot, but I still love my NF
@@0.6annihilator67 precision instrument on lunas makes it really strong, and NF has really low handling
luna's howl is like top 3 primary in the game
@@aa00000c that’s what I’m saying
This style of video is the best
@@jamaljohnson3603 thank you jamal!
My guy do you even jelq?
People who say handcannons are bad after seeing the rose and igneous hammer usage numbers: 😮
Schizo paragraph incoming
I feel like most people who say shit like "handcannons suck" only say it because it gives them some sort of vindication when they play well with them. I imagine this is because handcannons are kind of the flagship weapon type of destiny at this point, so when sweaty handcannon players get beat by a pulse, auto, scout or anything else they like to complain about how bad handcannons are whilst blatantly ignoring their massive advantages like their AA, magnetism, flexibility and capability to peek shoot.
They are definitely not and have pretty much never been bad throughout the whole lifespan of D2 or even D1. It reminds me of shotgun users who love to attack anyone who uses any other special (fusions, gls, glaives etc) and will die on the hill that shotguns are these massively skilful weapons when in reality 95% of shotgun gameplay is sitting on a corner and waiting for someone to push.
One of the biggest purveyors of the "handcannons bad" stigma is a youtuber called known as sys, his content is actually quite good but contains really stupid remarks whenever he is discussing anything that isn't a handcannon or shotgun.