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@@matswessling6600 Editing an XML is: a) prone to mistakes. b) it has a learning curve as if we wouldn't have enough dealing with HTML c) XSLT, schemas, and such are a thing of the past. d) XML Path is evil e) Some solutions require hacky stuff. For example binding, so we add templates inside templates.
10:30 I think you meant to say "Is learning WPF still worth it in 2023?" learning C# is practically a pre-requisite for WPF (I don't know anyone that does WPF in another language). Learning C# is a very different question but also a resounding yes.
What i dont like about wpf is that is hard to customize anything. For example to change te color of the title bar and make custom buttons on it you have to set WindowStyle to none and write lot od code to make your custom window work and in the end you lose animations and lot of other things. Recently i discovered something called WPFUI and its much easier but overall i would always prefer avalonia over wpf
I'm looking into two competitors... Avalonia UI and Uno Platform. Avalonia is very much like WPF, except that it is portable to other operating systems like Linux and Mac. I believe Uno Platform is also like WPF and is also portable. WPF has more tutorials out there, so I am currently learning WPF and intend to use one of these other two GUI libraries later.
@@patboy24 No it is not. I don’t know all the details, but I believe there are several parts of WPF that depend on Windows only code, and Microsoft has no plans to port it to other platforms. Apparently, Avalonia has a commercial package available that can take existing WPF code, and with just a few modifications, compile it for other platforms. I don’t know how well it works though.
I'd say learning XAML is extremely important in 2024 (MAUI is basically all XAML - which is Microsoft's platform for desktop and mobile UI) - the back-end will be .Net8 (time of writing).
The bad and horrible thing about Avalonia is that it doesn’t have support for Microsoft Blend for Visual Studio, so I have to go back to WPF. Blend for studio is a W. Avalonia should improve
I also did a lot of WPF work. It’s seldom used (at least in the US and especially in California). Did you eventually find a new job? I’m curious to hear about your job search experience doing WPF full time at your job.
@@twilite295 In one of my jobs, I was purely a WPF developer for 3 straight years, and managed to transition into more of the mainstream technologies. When I was actively looking, it was tough answering specifics on React. But eventually I got through it and no longer have to compete with people on the job market who know the mainstream tech while I'm an expert with the niche technologies. Where are you based off of approximately? Is it in California, the Midwest, New York? I'm curious to hear about your job search experiences (and maybe I can offer a pointer or two, who knows?)
I got a job that uses WPF to just pay the bills while looking for other jobs. I worked there for a month and decided to quit without new jobs and not include it in my resume lmao.
@@maciekmrakowski I’m based off NY. I’ve been working for 2 years now. Can’t find anything and when I do get interviews, it’s tough answering mainstream technology questions
Can You make a video side by side comparison of WPF & Windows Form How WPF has an edge instead of Windows Form Can You Upload a management system project on WPF .. Amazing Video
I wish to see more attention from Microsoft on this framework. Yes for sure WPF will be around for a while but WPF need get some modernization. Like toggle switches, Year picker control, Time picker, Ribbon and many more good stuff.
WPF is desktop tech. If you have a need of desktop tech, why not use WPF. Do we consider using web tech as desktop tech, better? Just adds another tech in the mix, you need to use html, css, javascript and a server tech for web app to work :) Hearing professional "programmers", console apps will die, also "professional" programmers say, everything will be converted to web technologies... yes, I had problem with Flash AS3 and struggled to find job with it... companies such an inert beings, can train employees new tech if needed...
WinForms apps use X,Y,Width,Height for control placements whereas WPF supports various “Layout Managers” that allows the controls on a screen to dynamically resize and reflow, based on window size similar to website pages etc. IMO Winforms is great for small(ish), “quickie” utility applications that require minimal user interaction. WPF has the ability to “LOOK HELLA GOOD” while performing complex functionality as well…
As of now Avalonia doesn't have more available third parties UI controls like WPF. I can easily achieve desktop development project using WPF compare to avalonia with its resources. WPF is matured framework, but its windows only.
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winforms is ANCIENT tech and still has it's uses today, WPF is way more powerful and newer, trust me WPF is not going anywhere anytime soon.
So Winforms.
IMHO, WinForms is RAD while WPF requires programming using XML, and XML is bad.
@@eng3d "xml is bad"? in what way?
@@matswessling6600 Editing an XML is:
a) prone to mistakes.
b) it has a learning curve as if we wouldn't have enough dealing with HTML
c) XSLT, schemas, and such are a thing of the past.
d) XML Path is evil
e) Some solutions require hacky stuff. For example binding, so we add templates inside templates.
10:30 I think you meant to say "Is learning WPF still worth it in 2023?" learning C# is practically a pre-requisite for WPF (I don't know anyone that does WPF in another language). Learning C# is a very different question but also a resounding yes.
I develop add-ons for AutoCAD and Revit. WPF is an essential tool in my arsenal
Love it!!
What i dont like about wpf is that is hard to customize anything. For example to change te color of the title bar and make custom buttons on it you have to set WindowStyle to none and write lot od code to make your custom window work and in the end you lose animations and lot of other things. Recently i discovered something called WPFUI and its much easier but overall i would always prefer avalonia over wpf
wow, you are definitely hardcore engineer
Avalonia is the way forward for me!
I'm looking into two competitors... Avalonia UI and Uno Platform. Avalonia is very much like WPF, except that it is portable to other operating systems like Linux and Mac. I believe Uno Platform is also like WPF and is also portable. WPF has more tutorials out there, so I am currently learning WPF and intend to use one of these other two GUI libraries later.
I heard one shd learn wpf to understand avalonia
I will do the same.
isnt WPF also portable to other OS if it based on .NET code instead of .NET Framework?
@@patboy24 No it is not. I don’t know all the details, but I believe there are several parts of WPF that depend on Windows only code, and Microsoft has no plans to port it to other platforms. Apparently, Avalonia has a commercial package available that can take existing WPF code, and with just a few modifications, compile it for other platforms. I don’t know how well it works though.
I'd say learning XAML is extremely important in 2024 (MAUI is basically all XAML - which is Microsoft's platform for desktop and mobile UI) - the back-end will be .Net8 (time of writing).
MAUI is dead on arrival.
Hi, great content.
I can't find the video you mention at 5:55, I would really like to watch it, can you please give me a link ?
WPF and MAUI are so nice, Uno is another good once!
Love the content, keep it up!
The bad and horrible thing about Avalonia is that it doesn’t have support for Microsoft Blend for Visual Studio, so I have to go back to WPF. Blend for studio is a W. Avalonia should improve
what is blend ??? it is the visual ui drag and drop designer inside of visual studio ???
Blend is an additional editor that deeply supports WPF features - visually creating animations vs coding them, for example.
@@williambell4591 Is Blend still alive? O_O
@@eng3d I have Blend on my dev PCs so I'd say yes.
I got a WPF job as my first software engineering job. The skill set has made me struggle to find a new job.
I also did a lot of WPF work. It’s seldom used (at least in the US and especially in California).
Did you eventually find a new job? I’m curious to hear about your job search experience doing WPF full time at your job.
@@maciekmrakowski No I haven’t, it’s been rough. People are genuinely surprised when I tell them I do WPF.
@@twilite295 In one of my jobs, I was purely a WPF developer for 3 straight years, and managed to transition into more of the mainstream technologies. When I was actively looking, it was tough answering specifics on React. But eventually I got through it and no longer have to compete with people on the job market who know the mainstream tech while I'm an expert with the niche technologies.
Where are you based off of approximately? Is it in California, the Midwest, New York? I'm curious to hear about your job search experiences (and maybe I can offer a pointer or two, who knows?)
I got a job that uses WPF to just pay the bills while looking for other jobs. I worked there for a month and decided to quit without new jobs and not include it in my resume lmao.
@@maciekmrakowski I’m based off NY. I’ve been working for 2 years now. Can’t find anything and when I do get interviews, it’s tough answering mainstream technology questions
thanks ..plz whats the best open source lib that make printable recp works well with wpf?
Can You make a video side by side comparison of WPF & Windows Form
How WPF has an edge instead of Windows Form
Can You Upload a management system project on WPF ..
Amazing Video
I wish to see more attention from Microsoft on this framework. Yes for sure WPF will be around for a while but WPF need get some modernization.
Like toggle switches, Year picker control, Time picker, Ribbon and many more good stuff.
WPF is now open source so its up to the cummunity.
Thank youu! I have been stumbling a lot looking for a way to make a UI for my program. Never done something like this, and this video helped me!
your c# Visualizer programs?
What about Avalonia and Uno?
I am using WPF last more than 6 years for high response application
I recently built an application with WPF, but when I open it on a large monitor, my fonts are blurry. Does anyone know how to fix that?
i think it is because your app may not be well optimised for higth dpi
@@xgui4-studios LOL font should be rendered for dpi.
WPF is desktop tech. If you have a need of desktop tech, why not use WPF. Do we consider using web tech as desktop tech, better? Just adds another tech in the mix, you need to use html, css, javascript and a server tech for web app to work :) Hearing professional "programmers", console apps will die, also "professional" programmers say, everything will be converted to web technologies... yes, I had problem with Flash AS3 and struggled to find job with it... companies such an inert beings, can train employees new tech if needed...
I just did a four month project to build a console app for converting a database. Console apps aren't going anywhere.
UWP?
I just bought murachs most recent windows forms but, should I consider learning wpf instead or is win forms a good baseline?
WPF for sure. Windows Forms are not supported anymore, and less used in these days.
@@LuigiZambetti What does not supported mean?
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@@liftfresh4life no updates
You need to check the needs of the company not your hobbies.
I'm a student learning C# on Udemy, with the goal of game development. Would I be missing out on too much content if I skip the entire WPF section?
Not really as you are ultimately only going to be using API calls from your game engine. WPF is mostly used for standalone applications.
I don't understand when I create new project in Visual Studio what I choose WPF or WinUI 3...
The ticking noise is very irritating.
nice video
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I can't find any good source to learn wpf.
Have you tried SingletonSean ?
Udemy has some good courses
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Microsoft has not develop a successful APP framework since WPF 4.5. Everything they have done, they have trashed and MAUI is going the same route.
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avalonia was such a mistake.
why
@ breaking the compatibility.
Competitors ... Uno Project ... Avalonia ... Gtk# .... etc... etc...
where is the wpf journal app video?
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I believe that react native is better.
react native is for mobile while wpf is for Windows, a desktop operating system
What about WinUI
Not mature yet
You're mixing apples and oranges here mate, ReactiveUI is (ironically) not a UI framework.
I can tell you, WPF is pretty easy if you already have knowledge with another language.
Why not Windows Forms...
Well, you can use it, but it will be more difficult to make it testable, and very difficult to make it looking good !
Winforms are good, but you can get really creative with WPF.
WinForms apps use X,Y,Width,Height for control placements whereas WPF supports various “Layout Managers” that allows the controls on a screen to dynamically resize and reflow, based on window size similar to website pages etc.
IMO Winforms is great for small(ish), “quickie” utility applications that require minimal user interaction.
WPF has the ability to “LOOK HELLA GOOD” while performing complex functionality as well…
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Really liked this video but the background music was highly annoying .
cool video but the music is distracting
Only Avalonia wpf is dead
why，😂 i just went to they web site, the app ui is pretty, that is really a pity
Ava did too
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@@footlessbird1998So what is the answer?
As of now Avalonia doesn't have more available third parties UI controls like WPF. I can easily achieve desktop development project using WPF compare to avalonia with its resources. WPF is matured framework, but its windows only.
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