Top 10 Amiga Strategy Games

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  • @Tchillix
    @Tchillix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i've searched for Rampart only with Keywords Amiga Strategy Cannon...and you brought it back to me. THANK YOU

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I could help! :) If you're interested in any other Amiga games, I have a 10-part series "10 years of Amiga gaming" covering like 500 Amiga games or so... :)

  • @TeaAndFloppyDisks
    @TeaAndFloppyDisks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Protecting your castle with walls made of tetris pieces is really something else. But you use whatever wall building materials you can get, I guess. :)
    You always speak so fondly of Civilization and it's always nice to listen to you go on about it. :)

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Civilization is one of my dearest games. I rarely play it these days, as each game takes a long long while, but I purchase each that releases with all addons, and usually on the day of the release or as a per-order. Civ 6 I have probably 5 or 6 copies on different systems. xD

    • @TeaAndFloppyDisks
      @TeaAndFloppyDisks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames Oh wow. Then you're spoiled for choice for when you have the time for Civilization. :) I'll have to give it a try too. :D

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TeaAndFloppyDisks Not really, PC would be my platform of choices. Regardless if it would be my "big" gaming/rendering PC that keeps freezing (yes, it's the 7th time right NOW today that I'm rendering the next video), laptop or Steam Deck. It's just the most versatile platform and supports MODs out of the box through Steam Workshop. And Civ 5 with Vox Populi MOD (which funny enough, as an exception was not available through Steam) was the most fun I had in Civ ever. :) And yes, you should check it out. :)

    • @TeaAndFloppyDisks
      @TeaAndFloppyDisks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames 7th time? O.O Seriously? Wow... Then I hope that 7th time was the charm. I bet your nerves have been put to the test...
      Um, Vox Populi? Voice of the people? Interesting. I've looked up the mod and I'm curious... Did they name it that way because of the changes to the population needs and dynamics in game, or is it because it's a community mod and represents what they believe the gme should be like? Or am I just being silly and it's only a cool Latin name? :)

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TeaAndFloppyDisks Well, it's the second out of all three options. And it's fantastic. There's plenty of extra content in it, and a lot of basic stuff had been remade, fixed, and optimised. It just made Civ 5 a much better game. :)
      Also, I'm working on the @, finally had a time to do so today. :)

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s not a genre of game I’ve ever got on with but Settlers was amazing & the Amiga hade a library of great strategy games as you’ve shown here. Excellent video, thanks.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Settlers was so much fun when played in the split-screen mode!
      Nowadays it seems moot as we have online multiplayer but the fact that you could only experience multi in person back then, made the memories so much better than the ones that I make now playing with people I've never seen or spoke to.

    • @mattx5499
      @mattx5499 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. Amiga was probably first computer that really made use of mouse controls and it was shipped with a mouse, so it was perfect platform for ambitious strategy/RPG/adventure games. Also the high-resolution and detailed graphics for he time made it easier to create clean user interfaces.

    • @nicholsliwilson
      @nicholsliwilson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattx5499 I have a “tank mouse” with an optical conversion kit in it & it’s great. Modern response with the original feel, it’s great.

    • @mattx5499
      @mattx5499 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholsliwilson Agree. When people look at tank mouse they think it was horrible, but the truth is it wasn't that uncomfortable. The switches were pretty sturdy and could be replaced with the common ones available in electronic parts stores. The precission wasn't much worse than in newer ball mice used with PC's in the late 90's. Of course optical upgrade makes it more precise. I'm emulatin Amiga on my Linux laptop, so I can use whatever wireless mouse I want. There are also DB9 to USB adapters, so you can use any modern USB mouse on Amiga including the wireless ones.

  • @DanElgaard9
    @DanElgaard9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me 'Warlords' is the best strategy game of all time - still play it almost every day.
    I was, however, surprised to not see 'Feudal Lords' on the list - also one of those gems to be remembered.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strategy games as much as RPGs and adventure games are tough to rate on the Amiga. There were just so many of them and most to good, every list (unless complete) is bound to miss some of someone's favourites. I'm glad you found at least one title to your liking. :)

    • @DanElgaard9
      @DanElgaard9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames You're right - Stretegy games really became synonomus with the Amiga, and it is hard to pinpoint the very best - it will always be different from person to person.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanElgaard9 True. Mine's however pretty clear. :)

  • @ste105
    @ste105 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks from making this list. Im going to replay a few on my Mini A500 😊

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, enjoy! I am hoping to remake those lists in a little while as they're a bit old and working on my 10 Years of Amiga Gaming series opened my eyes to the games I've clearly did not remember about when working on the Top 10s.

  • @SpeccyMan
    @SpeccyMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dune II was one of my favourites on the Amiga back in the day and I still play Dune Legacy on my PC today. It's a classic. Big fan of The Settlers too and still play the occasional game.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Settlers was a classic. And probably the first real time strategy/management game that I played in multiplayer on a single system. It was a dream! :)

  • @gumdeo
    @gumdeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Colonization had to be one of the most musical strategy games of the time, so many tunes!

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah, music-wise definitely the best game on this list!

  • @daishi5571
    @daishi5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A nice list of games, with a couple I had forgotten. Did you know that Command and Conquer has been released for the Amiga now?
    You said that X-Com on the Amiga showed it was one of those games that by 1995 was on it's dying breath. Let me ask you did you try running this on a 286 PC?? No because minimum spec on a PC was a 386 With preference for a 486. You ran this on a system with tech from 1985/1987 and you didn't upgrade like you would have had to do on a PC. Why would you expected it to run as fast as a much newer PC??. I ran X-Com on a A1200 with a 68030 @ 50MHz and it ran plenty fast (along with Colonization and Civilization) The Amiga is consistently singled out for not being upgraded despite upgrades available. The Amiga was perfectly fine running games like this, but just like a PC if you want speed you had to have a system with speed.
    I write this for those that don't know the Amiga ecosystem like those of us that lived with it.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All fair points, every single one of them. And I agree. Amiga was expandable. But Amiga also died because of the mis-management. So, with each passing month or year it was harder and harder to upgrade or replace it at a reasonable cost. While PC kept getting new parts and older kept getting cheaper and cheaper. Amiga is my most favourite computer of all time and I often wonder what would our World look like if Workbench would be what Windows is now. But despite my love for the system, I stand by what I said, It was on its last dying breath and it ceased to exist soon after. Would I prefer that it didn't? Yes, definitely. But it did regardless of what I wanted. :(

    • @daishi5571
      @daishi5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames I think we all agree that the Amiga failed because of Commodore. By the time of X-Com the Amiga was dying/dead, not because of it's capabilities but because of a lack of upgrading, and that's not just Commodore's fault. Upgrades were available with both systems and hardware and could easily show the Amiga was competitive. Take for instance when Doom came out (1993) it was said the Amiga couldn't run Doom! fast forward to when the source code was released and behold, Amiga could run Doom! just like a PC you needed a beefy system (both systems and upgrades were available at the time) but again that's no different to the PC!. Everyone says well PC's were so much cheaper, but that only became true in the 90's. There was a time period the Amiga was both available in a super cheap and convenient package (A500) and an incredibly cost competitive and flexible package (A2000) But the PC ecosystem did a much better job at convincing everyone to get used to upgrading, with literally every PC magazine pushing every tiny incremental upgrade as the next essential upgrade. I think that is a good part of what pushed the PC market to get bigger in that it was "the system that got all the upgrades" whether you wanted or needed them. And this consistent upgrade cycle on the PC is what pushed down prices.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daishi5571 Oh, we can definitely agree. On all points.
      I think ultimately, it was the standardised office software that popularised the PC. And with office software, when some of those PCs got home, so that the workers could finish up on what they didn't at work, in the off time they could be used as gaming machines. And since they weren't very useful for it, upgrades began to sprung up. And since they were everywhere they became dominant.
      That said, for quite a long while Amiga had near monopoly in video editing for small and medium TV stations. Which could but sadly didn't lead it to have a longer life than it did.

    • @chriscowey7464
      @chriscowey7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daishi5571 Yep I priced up an A1200 with 4gb ram, 120mb hd, I built a 486-sx33(overclocked to 40) for the same price (though I scored on the memory was given 8mb, when I paid for 4 (Was a massive price difference at the time). It was not that the Amiga could not be upgraded, it was the cost.plus I need the pc for college, yes I could faff around with crossdos and text word processors (which I did do for a year with my A500) but it was just far easier to have word 2.0 installed in windows, from that point on though, it was bascially pc gaming all the way.
      Also No K240 or Populous games?

    • @daishi5571
      @daishi5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriscowey7464 Did a bit of detective work and end of 1992/beginning of 1993 a 486 sx 33 (inc monitor, 200MB HDD, 4MB RAM but still no sound card) cost ~$2000
      A1200 $499, 68030 @40 MHz + 4MB RAM $499, multisynch monitor ~$499, 200MB HDD ~$339, Total ~$1900
      (it's almost what I had back then).
      Now if you want to go big box then the A4000 was more expensive no doubt (the 68040 version which was way more powerful than your PC was ~$2500)
      However what is missing in these Amiga prices is how flexible the systems were. Want to run Mac software faster than a Mac, yep we can do that. Want to run PC software for compatibility, Yep we got you covered (yes it runs slower, but it runs) and what's fun is to run Amiga, Mac and PC software all at the same time. Now if you have an A4000 you get to have the ability to run PC software just as fast as a PC with a bridgeboard and use PC expansion cards if you want, as well as using Amiga expansion cards. It was years before the PC could touch that and you needed a cutting edge machine.
      The biggest advantage of the PC, had nothing to do with tech and everything to do with marketing. With so many PC magazines espousing the virtue of everything PC (after all they were selling magazines) pushing the "You need to upgrade and be happy about it, you peasant" line. The Amiga had never been in that same situation. Where the PC was a work in progress, the Amiga was a complete, stable system. If you bought an A1000 in 1985 there was software readily and easily available for it (maybe a memory upgrade and a kickstart) right up to when Commodore went bankrupt (show me a PC from 1985 that could claim that kind of support). Commodore was one company and even if they had been run well it was a tough sell. PC's on the other hand had hundreds of companies (advertising in magazines) vying for the market, and most of them were so willing to fight for market share they would sell so cheaply they would go bankrupt (I have a smirk when people say the Amiga failed, when literally hundreds of PC companies went bankrupt)
      Word even back then was a great product, and through the magic of Mac emulation you could have run it on the Amiga without issue, nice and speedy :-)
      I think part of the Amiga's demise was that despite all it's capabilities, it was so understated thus unknown (I have shown so many people the Amiga doing things that would make them go huh! I didn't know it could do that)
      K240 and Populous (especially 2) were great.

  • @nickharvey7233
    @nickharvey7233 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved many of those games, but I'd have to inkcude Chris Crawford's Balance of Power (1990 editon) - as masterpiece of the time - i remember my minf being blown by the detail

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now, it's a very old video, this one, and I'm sure I'd change some of the picks today. What would the games be? Hard to tell out of the top of my head like that, but it would definitely not be identical to this one. I may remake it at some point. :)

  • @ArdaKaraduman
    @ArdaKaraduman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow :) nice memories ! Civ and Xcom would be my top two as well. I sank many hours into Civ with my 1mb 2 floppy A500. Xcom was too much pain to play, and I upgraded to a PC by that time, so didnt play much on the miggy. I wonder if its more bearable in emulation with a faster setup ?

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's better but I wouldn't approach it with a configuration below 030 for any serious gameplay either. Preferably 040.
      020 was what I used for this video so clearly that's not enough.

  • @pnvgordinho
    @pnvgordinho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rampart and North and South are amazing.
    You forgot Space crusade. Great game.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! :)
      And as I go through making those history of Amiga games videos, I realise with each one how many games I've skipped for my top 10's just because I forgot about them or didn't found them with a quick search. So, perhaps at some point a rework for all those lists will be necessary.

  • @phantasma669
    @phantasma669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked syndicate and theatre of death a lot as well. Great games

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They sure are. But to be honest despite general opinion that Syndicate was a strategy I never considered it as such. For me it was a "different" Cannon Fodder with a story behind it and upgrades. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it just never thought of it as being a strategy.

    • @phantasma669
      @phantasma669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@OldAndNewVideoGames I liked Syndicate much more than Cannon Fodder. I consider it to be a strategy game since you have to make dicisions on where to act, how to act and with what means to act.

  • @astrophotographyuk
    @astrophotographyuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A nice collection.
    I have to admit I was never into RPG's BUT I quite enjoyed Dune.
    My personal favourite though has to be The Settlers. The animation was amazing as was the music, well on the Amiga anyway.
    I must have played it for weeks, months, years at a time by myself and then two player mode with my partner and friends which great fun too.
    I still do play it today via Emulators since I got rid of my Amiga 500+, 600 & 1200, sad but true, and I regret it to this day.
    Yes the graphics may look a little dated (Blocky) now but the gameplay sure makes up for it.
    If ever I I see a review like this or hear the tune (In-Game Music) online or even if it pops into my head... I need to play it!
    Can anyone guess what I'm gonna do now? LOL ;-)
    Thanks for this top 10 my friend

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot for watching! The first Dune indeed was sorta adventure game mixed with some rpg elements. Second was pure real-time strategy. Both great, both entirely different games. I will make a video for best RPGs in the future too.

  • @funkypine419
    @funkypine419 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amiga was the King of Gaming in the 90's!!

  • @elliskaranikolaou2550
    @elliskaranikolaou2550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UMS, Universal Military Simulator is a must Amiga Strategy game ...

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't ring a bell. I'll have a look for it. Thanks!

  • @snesoey
    @snesoey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you play Deuteros?

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have indeed, but it was so long ago. xD

  • @LiquidBoogie
    @LiquidBoogie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surprised you did not include Mega Lo Mania?

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not consider it that good. That said, as I make my current 10 Years of Amiga Gaming series i re-discover many games and most of my lists could take a slight re-work, I feel. ;)

  • @iwantagoodnameplease
    @iwantagoodnameplease 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What game(s) were shown in the intro?

  • @Mintcar923
    @Mintcar923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a funny feeling about what would be the top two.. I never played the old versions tho.. I didn't discover I'd love Civ until the first sequel.. Also, I had Centurion which was great.. Damn, I didn't realize Ubisoft had been around that long.. Funny how I'm still obsessed with the Sid Meier style games & the like over 30 years later..

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว

      There were so many games that tried to better, to change the formula... But to no avail. Sid Meier's Civ each and every time it releases just gets better. Not necessarily when it releases, sometimes it requires few patches and a DLC, but when they mature, they're usually better than the previous instalment was.

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames The only slightly similar games on Amiga I played were Defender of the Crown & Overlord but I’m not sure if they’re regarded as 4x.. My two favorite all around titles were Sid Meiers Pirates & Cinemaware’s Wings on the platform from what I recall.. Just picked up Civ 3 & 5 recently.. Had 4 pc & 6 Switch for a while tho..
      It’s my favorite game but still trying to decide my preferred version overall.. Picked up a strategy guide for Civ 4 this morning as a member of fact

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mintcar923 I never liked one thing about older civs. That you could capture a city, or have your captured with just a single unit approaching it when there were no units of your own stationed there. But that's me.
      The one I had most fun with and played it the most with a friend of mine was Civ 5 with all addons and (and that's important) VOX Populi mod. That mode made this great game just a masterpiece. And I can't recommend it enough.

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames Its the greatest game ever made.. But even that isn’t absolutely perfect.. It seems each installment has its positives & negatives.. I’m sure I’ll spend the rest of my life playing it.. I’m also excited about the new one coming out.. But in the meantime I’m gonna spend some time with Old World and perhaps some of the other interesting spin-offs

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mintcar923 I have those too but I've no time to actually play anything for any longer than few hours a week now. When I win the lottery though... ;)

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So many fun games but while I never owned an Amiga I owned every game on the list for another platform (more then one platform in several cases0' except for Dune II (I played it and owned the Dune 2000 remake) I spent so many hours playing North and South with dad or my cousins.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, it's fun to compare them to the systems you played them on, right? Back then, after all, these games looked and often played a bit different on different machines.

  • @amciuam157
    @amciuam157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Colonization is with me for last 30 years but so is UFO, Centurion, Civilization or Settlers. Good times

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All of these are instantly replayable, so I get that. :)

  • @generalkilbabathemadmansch3602
    @generalkilbabathemadmansch3602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice like just I don't think you included Colonization or Defender of the Crown (which is a little basic but still a very fun sort-of strategy game) (Ooops I noticed you do have Colonization haha! Sorry :D)

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Defender of the Crown is a great game indeed. But it just didn't made the cut... I may however make a separate video with it as I'm sorta thinking about a Cinemaware dedicated one. But I have to think it through as no doubt that one would be quite long, probably close to 40+ minutes. And I'm not sure anyone would want to watch that...

  • @mourdebars
    @mourdebars ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All greats, but Col is the one I still enjoy at least once a year (PC version).

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a unique game with excellent even if simple presentation and beautiful music design. Also, hella fun to play!

  • @gabormiklay9209
    @gabormiklay9209 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Settlers and Civilization were he bests! 👍

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great games, not gonna dispute that! :)

  • @steinarvilnes3954
    @steinarvilnes3954 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was really these games that made me low the Amiga, and prefer computer to game consoles.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I have all current systems now but for years was only a computer gamer too. And Amiga I have the most nostalgic memories of.

  • @disasterincarnate
    @disasterincarnate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +10 for a good list, -5 for not including Deuteros: The Next Millennium.

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So... A solid 5? ;)

    • @disasterincarnate
      @disasterincarnate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OldAndNewVideoGames solid yes, but could be higher :D

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@disasterincarnate I take my wins whenever I can, be it small or large. ;)

  • @marcoganz6276
    @marcoganz6276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mega-lo-Mania and Utopia

    • @OldAndNewVideoGames
      @OldAndNewVideoGames  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great games indeed. And it's an old video. That said, I don't think I'll be doing top10's any time soon. If I decide on re-doing any of my old lists, I'll do them as top20's. Amiga had a lot of awesome games in most genres and limiting them to 10 only leaves a lot of amazing games out, and viewers disappointed.