I was gonna say "And they were in the same place at the same time" but you know, I wouldn't put it past Cid to make a entire clone out of slime or something just to make himself look cooler
10:00 All the things Cid mentioned are actually from the Web Novel, specifically the parts that the Author said aren't going to be in the Light Novel version after the story split from the Oriana arc onwards. Prison arc and Mercenary arc as they are called were probably one of the greatest arcs written in the franchise.
Is there anywhere to read the WN in English? And has anyone compiled a list of LN vs WN differences that I should look out for? My basic knowledge of the subject is that the LN removes some content but adds much needed focus and detail to prevent any contradictions while the WN has more content but also has many contradictions. At least that is what I hear around the web.
We know a lot about 559/Victoria, more than most 7 Shadows (for now, we don't really know much about most 7 Shadows either). But we don't know if we'll see it in the anime or light novel, since its all from the Mobile Game. In the Light Novel and Manga we got her real name pretty much immediately when she was on screen with Shadow, I don't know why they cut it out from here though, but we might still hear it later. Also, Cid went to help Marie because he heard her talk about someone saving her, and he wanted to one up the person who saved her, not realizing he was the one who saved her in the first place lmao. Also, we just started Volume 4 of the Light Novel, thats the latest official English release, but Japan is at Volume 6 right now.
10:00 lmao I love that they mention prison arc and black rose arc both of it arguably the peak of eminence in shadow in the WN it's so chaotic that I love it
I like in that arc cid is doing small adventures with Aurora finger and make fake black rose legend scenario 😂. the thing that confused me is in wn version, the main focus of prison arc is rose little sister, but in ln, not even single thing that mention about her(it like she is never exist).
3:15 This is only the second time we've seen 559 and the first time we've heard her talk. I can understand you not remembering her, Cid barely does. Still, he did heal her himself. Her backstory is explained in the mobile game, which I didn't play. I don't expect to see it this season. To answer your question, this episode marks the start of volume 4 of the light novel. I don't expect we will be finishing the book this season, there are only three episodes left. Still, you can read the first three volumes without spoilers.
No spoilers ahead, rest assured... - AFAIK, there's only a small mention of how Victoria (No. 559) meets Cid in the novel. - Will the anime show it? Perhaps, but they did skip Beta's backstory in Season 1, so maybe not. - The brief summary about Jail Break and Army Volunteers story are actually from WN, which had been discarded or left out from LN and manga, but since the anime director is a true fan of WN, he might be trying to make it canon. - Should you read the novel? At least Vol 1-2 that had been animated, depends really, since there are some parts that the studio had left out, but what if they decided to animated them into future seasons? You might consider it becoming a spoiler. - If you wish to read the LN, here's a heads-up, the first episode of anime in season 1 is actually from LN Vol 4. So, don't be surprised if you cannot find Cid's past backstory before isekai in LN Vol 1.
According to the game Victoria was the Saint in the Templar's Church Order. And being deeply religious person, after being possessed and rejected by the Order, she was saved and cured by the Shadow, so now she probably believes him to be the Lord, the God himself. While she has yandere vibes, she is more religious fanatic rather than wicked loving girl
559 aka Victotria was also a cursed human that Shadow saved so her magic got a huge boost on top of her original high power level. She is seriously a fanatic to Shadow which is explained in her backstory in the mobile game.
18:13 That should be pretty simple. While Victoria fought a bigger slice of the cult's forces, a small force took her and her mother away. Rose probably didn't resist at all because she's worried about her mother
Did you notice the girl with the purple hair was the same girl that the father had lost in season 1. the girl in the necklace that turned into a demon and alpha saved her in episode 5 in season 1 when he first went atomic. The demon with the one arm
Glad you've noticed that 559 is trying to immitate the way Cid acts as Shadow. She uses a similar tone of voice and speech patterns when talking. The way she rushes in and attacks is also very similar.
We're currently at the beginning of LN Vol 4 and the anime will cover the first half of LN Vol 4 in season 2. The second half will probably be in season 3. To answer your question Joe there was 2 years time skip during episode 2 and 3 of season 1 and it was skip in LN as well but currently the author was writing the events during the 2 years time skip for the game and Victoria backstory is one of them.
The voice actress for 665 is the same actress as Shinju Inui (the sister of Sajuna "Juju-sama" Inui) in "My Dress-up Darling" and Anna Yamada in "The Dangers in My Heart".
My memory is so-so..... which is why I've looked up the same voices over and over. But because I did that, it reinforced my memory, and I can remember a lot more voices now. Well, at the very least, the other roles the VA's have played. VA names are harder to remember.
8:00 From my memory, this is wrong. In the LN and manga, Cid did not want to defeat Rose one day. He supported het ascension because it's badass, and he would be friends with royalty.
There were a bunch of Cultists there and the battle lasted three days and nights. I have to assume a group of them retreated while that was going on, taking Rose and the Queen away while they could while the others covered their escape.
iam curious btw, what makes it so somebody becomes a number or 1 of the shades like alpha, beta ETC? since what has been implied here is that the main difference seems to be the shades got their power directly from shadow while the numbers got it from shades, so why wernt victoria and rosa added to the ranks of the shades since the only difference between them and the 7 shades that exist already seems to be seniority in that the shades or the "OG's" ? Edit: to compoud this even futher as least victoria seems to atleast be compareble in abillity to a shade, since she apparntly fought for 3 days and nights straight against a litteral army of dudes losing an arm along the way and only running out of power/stamina and or succumbing to her injuries from all that litterally ONE GUY short of wiping out the enemy force completely, so unless iam underestimating the shades BADLY victoria also seems to have the power to be one aswell
@@xxxhalo4everxxx Alpha has recognized Victoria's power to be just below the seven shades. She's at that level, but just under it. And in the LN they make a new branch dedicated to people at the level just below the shades
3:2216:31 This is the first time No.559 made her proper debut in the Anime (previously she had 2 no-dialogue cameos). Her backstory plot is mostly covered in the "Game" for this Series and it is apparently a main story plot of the Game. There is nothing much about her either in the Web Novel, Light Novel & Manga, and considering that the Anime is mostly covering plot from the Light Novel and just adding some extra info's from the other adaptations, we might never see her backstory in the Anime.
You could just get a frame of Victoria in season 1 last episode. When Rose reach Alexandria and becoming 666 there are 2 number fighting, that was actually 89 and 559, if you pause at the right time you will get the actual picture of her ;) Also before this episode i think abouti two episodes ago there is another frame of her standing next to Zeta (thats a thing to remember for much later ;) ) I dont really know if we will get her backstory on the anime but yes she recived her power directly from Shadow just like Rose.
19:53 They breezed over that "Prison plot" because though it was written by the Author in the Web Novel, but it never got included/mentioned either in the Light Novel or Manga or the Game.
The extent of Victoria's backstory in the light novels that would have taken place in this episode had they included it was a single sentence of Cid recalling her name and remembering he had come across her when he was on a walk. Her actual backstory is a currently ongoing arc in the mobile game. TLDR; we know her origin but not how she came to join Shadow Garden.
Considering they only show us Alpha's backstory.... I doubt we'll get ANY of the Shadow Garden girls' backstory. Rose and her mum got taken away at the start of the fight (it actually was shown in the anime). Rose is basically captured at that point. The Jail Break arc and Volunteer Army arc are from the WN. Really awesome, I didn't expect the producers to even mention stuff frm the WN. I mean who does it at all. Fantastic.
559 gets a *little* bit of backstory in the anime/manga/novels, but most of the details are left for the mobile game's shadow garden chronicles (stories about the shades pre-Cid going to school) unfortunately. Maybe one day they'll adapt that content into other media.
The strongest guy is always right (my translation said justice), has a similar vibe to Doflamingo's quote about the winner of a battle declares what is justice.
Hey man just a few funny lines from Cid in the manga there : He had a serious face and scared the numbers, but he was actually thinking "Wait what? Who's 666? I know they refer to themselves as numbers, but there is no way in hell I can remember 600 people" "I just went with the flow but it seems that 666 chick f_ed up big time" And in the manga Cid said "I always dreamed of getting a bottle smashed at my head in a tavern" lmaooo (And he did get a bottle smashed on his head, in a tavern) And then he called them poor and he took his heart saying this will do
17:18 Each Light Novel of Eminence has 2 Arc in it. And the current "Rose Arc" is covered in the 1st Arc of Light Novel Vol.4. *Though it's better to avoid reading Light Novel Vol.4* , as it is a spoilers for the Next Anime Arc, which would probably covered in Season 3 (saying probably because they might cover it differently like in a OVA or Movie, as there is always chance of them, be any percentage).
1. Victoria has a backstory, it’s been a while since I read the LN’s so idk if it’s in there or if it’s in the mobile game 2. We’re currently in the first arc of vol 4 of the LN
I'm guessing that they went easy on her in Shadow Garden's boot camp since they don't know what their master's plans are for her. Any other recruit would've been humbled really hard to avoid situations like this. Let's remember that Rose has been giving them trouble for a while acting on her own.Well, considering most of the new recruits were probably just ordinary girls when they got infected by possession. Rose, on the other hand, was already a great swordswoman before she became possessed snd given power by Cid so she didn't really need a lot of training. Also since she is directly involved in the country that they are currently Operating in having Rose is necessary despite how unmentally trained she is in the organization.Yep, If it was normal members, They would have been killed right there.
So far the light novel Volume one covers season 1, up to episodes 9 of the anime and Volume two covers season 1, episodes 10-20. Volume three covers Lawless City up to season 2, episode 7.
in terms of LN progress, we are in volume 3 right now and this season will probably end with 3. I low key hope we get a cliffhanger for the start of volume 4.
@@Sup_D true I forgot. I thought the whole 4th volume was about the front cover but it makes sense that the lead up to it is also in volume 4. Then I high key hope for a cliffhanger to the next arc.
so much misunderstanding....CID thought rose wanted to be a tyrant(which wasn't true)....than tries to make it happen for her by giving her powers....So now his plan is to take out Rose to look good, but rose announced she getting married so now CID is like....your ruining my plan rose ima kick your ass....while the 3 girls think he going off to kill her lol. I love this show it's so good the writing is god tier!
Cid really didn't understand anything of the Rose story from season 1, even while playing a huge part in it (as always). He really thinks she killed her father because she wanted to become the ruler (supreme tyrant).
I think it should be safe to look her up after you finish this arc as from what I'm told her backstory is only looked into in the games and not the novels and I don't recall her showing up again the in the manga (though she might in the novels which I haven't read)
The weird easter egg was if I am not wrong about it then in the scene with gamma in the bed she had various stuffed toys and one of them was piplup from Pokemon 😅
so far in the LN no backstory for 559 anime is at the beginning of vol 4, vol 6 being the most recent all the stuff they glossed over with cid being in prison, joining an army and so on is WN only content
Lmao I knew Joe didn't recognize Marie since all her scenes were edited out from the reaction until Cid went all acting material to help her. But seriously, she got a raw deal. Moving from the Lawless City to this shithole of a place and getting hounded for money. Also I never even thought about the food and door stuff since the past 3 places I've lived at my doors open inwards to the place. lol.
4:35 without spoiling i can say this much, victoria she is zetas faction in shadow garden, Zeda and her followers are Zealots, like difference between religious person and religious Zealot person, so they can become a problem in future, it wouldn't surprise me if one day they will have shadow garden civil war
5:45 Joe, if you watch YaBoyRockLee's solo response video about 559 vs Rose, he spits some fun! He made some great points in regards to Rose defending her mom. I didn't get to finish the video, so maybe he's cappin, but the beginning made hella sense.
If you are not going to play the shadow's mobile game, then everything about no.559 won't be spoiler to you. Her backstory only show in the mobile game.
16:48 I don't recall 559/Victoria getting a backstory. She plays her role, but idk who tf she is off the top of my head. 17:20 LN HELLA better than the manga. The manga adds so very many extra gags and shite. Season 2 is gonna end finishing off volume 3. Volume could could NOT BE BETTER to start a new season. This is what I was hoping for, but in 20 episodes.
Eminence have each media different. Manga goes more for humour side, novels much different. But like novels above all adaptations. There 4 published english volumes, and by the look of things, season will end in middle of volume 4. Volume has two arcs, they making only one, Oriana kingdom arc. I think. Japanese have already 6 volume month before. Envying them. So you can read first 3 volumes freely. About manga volumes don’t member, but you will see yourself, same timeline.
I doubt we would see it any time in the future either. I mean, it's a Game exclusive backstory, while the Anime is primarily focusing only on the plot from the Light Novel.
Dont want to spoil anything, but in the last light novel Zeta started popping off, 556 is... related lets just say. But we wont know for sure until next novel.
You seriously were confused as to why he got pissed when he saw rose was getting married? Did you forget all the shit they went through in season 1? 😂. Mf did a lot of shit for her to not get married plus they were also dating because she developed a crush for him after he saved her in that school attack so he kinda just rolled with it when she wanted to become his girlfriend.
Well, i won't spoil, Victoria or 559 did get her backstory but it is game special(eminence in shadow has a game), you can't find it in anime, light novel or web novel or manga, you have to play the game
If 559 requestrd 666's participation and she only recently earned the right to challenge a Numbers, it's not farfetched to assume she volunteered for this "recon" mission.
My guess is 559 wanted to test where 666/Rose loyalty lies, and if she had truly cast away her former life to dedicate herself to Shadow or not since he had directly given her power.
yes victoria has her own backstory and ITS WAY TOO IMPORTANT! but in this anime i think she won't get her arc this season, you should play their game bro the story is the same BUT it has more detailed to it including the part where shadow fights the mist dragon that it didn't shown in anime where alpha just talk about it to rose in last episode in season 1
Suddenly…knock. Someone knocked on the window. Rose looked to the other side, and ... "Hey…? “Cid-kun…?” There was the boy where she always thought. Rose looked blushed to the boy with hair and black eyes. It was as if he were dreaming, because she thought she would never see him again. "Rose-senpai ..." She felt a fervent look of her part, a look that transmitted passion towards her. Surely right now, right now, they were both feeling the same thing. His beats began to become faster, feeling even wanting to simply hug him and flee together. But she couldn't do it. "... please, I don't want anyone to see you talking to me." Rose said rationally and coldly. “Why… why do you do something as dangerous as this?” “I wanted to talk to you no matter what, Rose-senpai. That is why I infiltrated the castle as a disciple of a pianist. ” "Everything for me ...?" She wanted to cry. He had crossed a long way from his country, became the disciple of a famous pianist and infiltrated the castle alone to see Rose. He surely had to go an unimaginably difficult path. After all, it was not easy to become the disciple of a pianist and less infiltrate the castle. “I want to talk about your wedding.” "N-there is nothing to talk about ..." Precisely because she loves him, she must move him away. She knew that they would never be able to be together, and because of that, she was not going to let him get involved in the danger that she was experiencing. "Tell me that your wedding is a joke." His heart understood that look, he wanted Rose will deny that. He wanted him to deny that he was going to marry Doem, since he wanted to marry her. "E-is true ... I'm going to marry Duke Doem for my own will ..." His voice trembled, and tears finally came out of his eyes. However, Rose covered her face so that he couldn't see those tears. "It just can't be…!" He said, with an expression of having received the worst news of her life. Rose shouted in his heart. For her, it was hard to have to hurt the feelings of the person she loved. “Then why that day…” That day they both swore his love, but now Rose was betraying him. "Please ... already forget me ..." Tears continued to fall incessantly. She didn't want to hurt him anymore. "No ... I won't accept it." "Cid-kun ..." “It is again like you were before! Remember? You became a magical swordswoman even though this country looks down on you. It must have been hard to be rejected, and live in solitude and yet you chose to follow the path you had chosen, just like I did it a day ... " "Like you…?" “I am the one who understands you best, because I also had a dream that was misunderstood by everyone.” Rose knew what that dream was, there was no need for her to put it into words, she knew. That was because they both had the same dream. Cid's dream was Rose's and Rose's dream was Cid's. That dream was, to live together forever. Marrying and living together with the princess of the kingdom of Oriana was a ridiculous thing for a low-class noble to say. But Rose never denied that boy's feelings. That was the proof that both loved each other. “I understand your dream Cid-Kun! Even if the rest of the world doesn't understand it, only I understand it!!” "But society does not understand ... they treated me as an idiot, crazy, although that was the most natural reaction." “No matter what anyone else says, I know that your dream is the most splendid of all…!” "Senpai ..." Rose accepted that burning look. They did not need words, because love was transmitted with their looks. “We chose our own way, we live in it regardless of the difficulties and rejection of other people. But senpai, now you're trying to get out of that way!” “I-It's not true, I just…” Rose's voice denoted doubts. “You stabbed your fiancé and killed your father. I don’t know the reasons behind all that, but I always believed that that was the path you chose with your own will.” "Cid-kun ..." “But… why are you trying to get out of that way now?” "That was why ...!" “Marrying a fiancé that you once rejected to the point of stabbing him is the same as going out of your way! Didn't you keep walking all this time? “Then why…why are you giving up now?!” “…!” Rose pressed her lips tightly together, unable to respond with a single word. She knew very well, better than anyone, that this was not the life she wanted. But in order to protect the things and people she cared about, she had to make a sacrifice... “Please forget about me…! I just want you to be happy, I don't ask for more than that!!” “I will not accept it. Even if the world is against me, I will never accept it…” “I have nothing more to talk to you about. Go away please…" Rose threw Cid out with a strong rejection. Then she turned her back on him and started crying on the floor. Why did she have to push him away if she loved him so much? Why couldn't she unite, be one with him and live together until the end? Rose complained at the cruel reality and this merciless fate upon her.
559 backstory...... not in S2. Maybe in future episodes but the story focuses on Shadow, the Seven Shadows and the Midgar princess'. Numbers (Garden grunts) dont get any story focuses so far in either LN and manga.
The only thing that proves Cid cannot be Victoria is that Victoria talked too much ''direct'' cult stuff to be Cid :D
I was gonna say "And they were in the same place at the same time" but you know, I wouldn't put it past Cid to make a entire clone out of slime or something just to make himself look cooler
@@himanbam Why make a clone? This dude is fast enough to leave afterimages, fooling anyone who isn't at the level of the 7 Shadows should be easy.
10:00 All the things Cid mentioned are actually from the Web Novel, specifically the parts that the Author said aren't going to be in the Light Novel version after the story split from the Oriana arc onwards. Prison arc and Mercenary arc as they are called were probably one of the greatest arcs written in the franchise.
Hello Satan. I have a suggestion for you to work on “Fan, Factual and Fiction’”
Well the director is a fan of the webnovel
Is there anywhere to read the WN in English? And has anyone compiled a list of LN vs WN differences that I should look out for?
My basic knowledge of the subject is that the LN removes some content but adds much needed focus and detail to prevent any contradictions while the WN has more content but also has many contradictions. At least that is what I hear around the web.
@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 just Google "to be power in the shadow" and pick the one from the novelupdate
No way Oriana betrayed his scenario, she should punished:))
The scenario he just created, no less 😂😂😂
She's going off script!
@@pout1385 he has a point, princess killing her king-father, what could it be rather than becoming tyrant queen scenario?
@@DarthLisandreLTrue🤔
@@deada7224Cid going "I will fix her"
We know a lot about 559/Victoria, more than most 7 Shadows (for now, we don't really know much about most 7 Shadows either). But we don't know if we'll see it in the anime or light novel, since its all from the Mobile Game. In the Light Novel and Manga we got her real name pretty much immediately when she was on screen with Shadow, I don't know why they cut it out from here though, but we might still hear it later.
Also, Cid went to help Marie because he heard her talk about someone saving her, and he wanted to one up the person who saved her, not realizing he was the one who saved her in the first place lmao.
Also, we just started Volume 4 of the Light Novel, thats the latest official English release, but Japan is at Volume 6 right now.
Heat Blast, Windstorm, Dry Wind, and Cool Breeze
This is what happens when you let Ben Tennyson name your characters
sounds like the different modes my AC unit has LUL
My first thought was "Shampoo"
The names in this series are special. Perv Asshat, Po Tato, Skel Eton... it is the gift that keeps on giving.
is because all those word in japanese have 風 it mean wind or someing about air moving
actually when you hear their names in japanese they sounds much cooler
10:00 lmao I love that they mention prison arc and black rose arc both of it arguably the peak of eminence in shadow in the WN it's so chaotic that I love it
I wonder if they'll ever make an OVA about it.
I like in that arc cid is doing small adventures with Aurora finger and make fake black rose legend scenario 😂.
the thing that confused me is in wn version, the main focus of prison arc is rose little sister, but in ln, not even single thing that mention about her(it like she is never exist).
3:15 This is only the second time we've seen 559 and the first time we've heard her talk. I can understand you not remembering her, Cid barely does. Still, he did heal her himself. Her backstory is explained in the mobile game, which I didn't play. I don't expect to see it this season.
To answer your question, this episode marks the start of volume 4 of the light novel. I don't expect we will be finishing the book this season, there are only three episodes left. Still, you can read the first three volumes without spoilers.
No spoilers ahead, rest assured...
- AFAIK, there's only a small mention of how Victoria (No. 559) meets Cid in the novel.
- Will the anime show it? Perhaps, but they did skip Beta's backstory in Season 1, so maybe not.
- The brief summary about Jail Break and Army Volunteers story are actually from WN, which had been discarded or left out from LN and manga, but since the anime director is a true fan of WN, he might be trying to make it canon.
- Should you read the novel? At least Vol 1-2 that had been animated, depends really, since there are some parts that the studio had left out, but what if they decided to animated them into future seasons? You might consider it becoming a spoiler.
- If you wish to read the LN, here's a heads-up, the first episode of anime in season 1 is actually from LN Vol 4. So, don't be surprised if you cannot find Cid's past backstory before isekai in LN Vol 1.
According to the game Victoria was the Saint in the Templar's Church Order.
And being deeply religious person, after being possessed and rejected by the Order, she was saved and cured by the Shadow, so now she probably believes him to be the Lord, the God himself.
While she has yandere vibes, she is more religious fanatic rather than wicked loving girl
WHERE IS YUBI?!
559 aka Victotria was also a cursed human that Shadow saved so her magic got a huge boost on top of her original high power level.
She is seriously a fanatic to Shadow which is explained in her backstory in the mobile game.
All I get from her are red flags.
@@danielantony1882I can fix her.
559 is elf,
source = game
@@feardieshogun8153 ah thought she was human. Havent finished chronicles.
@@danielantony1882 Albedo of SG.
18:13 That should be pretty simple. While Victoria fought a bigger slice of the cult's forces, a small force took her and her mother away. Rose probably didn't resist at all because she's worried about her mother
That whole Cult Squad should now be called the Weather Boys
Did you notice the girl with the purple hair was the same girl that the father had lost in season 1. the girl in the necklace that turned into a demon and alpha saved her in episode 5 in season 1 when he first went atomic. The demon with the one arm
Glad you've noticed that 559 is trying to immitate the way Cid acts as Shadow. She uses a similar tone of voice and speech patterns when talking. The way she rushes in and attacks is also very similar.
We're currently at the beginning of LN Vol 4 and the anime will cover the first half of LN Vol 4 in season 2.
The second half will probably be in season 3.
To answer your question Joe there was 2 years time skip during episode 2 and 3 of season 1 and it was skip in LN as well but currently the author was writing the events during the 2 years time skip for the game and Victoria backstory is one of them.
Aren't the Chronicles of the Seven Shades already over?
@@danielantony1882Lastly they are releasing new chapters each month.
@@danielantony1882 well, it is going beyond seven shades and covering the second tier SG atm, like Kai, Omega atm. Cid still hasn't met Victoria yet.
@@rovvy221Good to know. I hope he adapts it into the Light Novel format. We need more info than just the game.
The voice actress for 665 is the same actress as Shinju Inui (the sister of Sajuna "Juju-sama" Inui) in "My Dress-up Darling" and Anna Yamada in "The Dangers in My Heart".
My memory is so-so..... which is why I've looked up the same voices over and over. But because I did that, it reinforced my memory, and I can remember a lot more voices now. Well, at the very least, the other roles the VA's have played. VA names are harder to remember.
8:00 From my memory, this is wrong. In the LN and manga, Cid did not want to defeat Rose one day. He supported het ascension because it's badass, and he would be friends with royalty.
11:30
Wait, your front door opens outwards? I don’t think I’ve ever come across a home where that was the case?
There were a bunch of Cultists there and the battle lasted three days and nights. I have to assume a group of them retreated while that was going on, taking Rose and the Queen away while they could while the others covered their escape.
i think 559 (victoria) backstories is explained in eminence in shadow game, also we are currently in the first half of LN vol 4 iirc
All you need to know about Victoria is that she's CRAZYY! and will do anything for Shadow
iam curious btw, what makes it so somebody becomes a number or 1 of the shades like alpha, beta ETC? since what has been implied here is that the main difference seems to be the shades got their power directly from shadow while the numbers got it from shades, so why wernt victoria and rosa added to the ranks of the shades since the only difference between them and the 7 shades that exist already seems to be seniority in that the shades or the "OG's" ?
Edit: to compoud this even futher as least victoria seems to atleast be compareble in abillity to a shade, since she apparntly fought for 3 days and nights straight against a litteral army of dudes losing an arm along the way and only running out of power/stamina and or succumbing to her injuries from all that litterally ONE GUY short of wiping out the enemy force completely, so unless iam underestimating the shades BADLY victoria also seems to have the power to be one aswell
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Alpha has recognized Victoria's power to be just below the seven shades.
She's at that level, but just under it. And in the LN they make a new branch dedicated to people at the level just below the shades
13:41 if you notice Victoria said the same line as Rose when Shadow gives her power when Shadow plays piano underground 😂😂😂
The prison break and volunteer army part was the web novel version of this arc but got changed in the LN. Cool that they put it in.
3:22 16:31 This is the first time No.559 made her proper debut in the Anime (previously she had 2 no-dialogue cameos).
Her backstory plot is mostly covered in the "Game" for this Series and it is apparently a main story plot of the Game.
There is nothing much about her either in the Web Novel, Light Novel & Manga, and considering that the Anime is mostly covering plot from the Light Novel and just adding some extra info's from the other adaptations, we might never see her backstory in the Anime.
You could just get a frame of Victoria in season 1 last episode. When Rose reach Alexandria and becoming 666 there are 2 number fighting, that was actually 89 and 559, if you pause at the right time you will get the actual picture of her ;) Also before this episode i think abouti two episodes ago there is another frame of her standing next to Zeta (thats a thing to remember for much later ;) ) I dont really know if we will get her backstory on the anime but yes she recived her power directly from Shadow just like Rose.
Victoria is a hardcore shadow simp 🤣
I think everyone in shadow garden is secretly a hardcore simp
19:53 They breezed over that "Prison plot" because though it was written by the Author in the Web Novel, but it never got included/mentioned either in the Light Novel or Manga or the Game.
Yes, she (Victoria) gets a backstory throughout LN, Mobile Game, etc.
The extent of Victoria's backstory in the light novels that would have taken place in this episode had they included it was a single sentence of Cid recalling her name and remembering he had come across her when he was on a walk. Her actual backstory is a currently ongoing arc in the mobile game.
TLDR; we know her origin but not how she came to join Shadow Garden.
Considering they only show us Alpha's backstory.... I doubt we'll get ANY of the Shadow Garden girls' backstory.
Rose and her mum got taken away at the start of the fight (it actually was shown in the anime). Rose is basically captured at that point.
The Jail Break arc and Volunteer Army arc are from the WN.
Really awesome, I didn't expect the producers to even mention stuff frm the WN. I mean who does it at all. Fantastic.
559 gets a *little* bit of backstory in the anime/manga/novels, but most of the details are left for the mobile game's shadow garden chronicles (stories about the shades pre-Cid going to school) unfortunately. Maybe one day they'll adapt that content into other media.
Seven Shadow Chronicles is getting a manga, so maybe they'll make a side-story anime out of it eventually? But that manga hasn't even started yet.
@@Haeruna Okay, I thought I heard it was getting a manga bit didn't remember for sure. Thanks for the confirmation.
The strongest guy is always right (my translation said justice), has a similar vibe to Doflamingo's quote about the winner of a battle declares what is justice.
556 mightve been mentioned in a previous ep (dont remember when exactly) but she hasnt appeared in the show until now
Hey man just a few funny lines from Cid in the manga there :
He had a serious face and scared the numbers, but he was actually thinking "Wait what? Who's 666? I know they refer to themselves as numbers, but there is no way in hell I can remember 600 people"
"I just went with the flow but it seems that 666 chick f_ed up big time"
And in the manga Cid said "I always dreamed of getting a bottle smashed at my head in a tavern" lmaooo
(And he did get a bottle smashed on his head, in a tavern)
And then he called them poor and he took his heart saying this will do
17:18 Each Light Novel of Eminence has 2 Arc in it.
And the current "Rose Arc" is covered in the 1st Arc of Light Novel Vol.4.
*Though it's better to avoid reading Light Novel Vol.4* , as it is a spoilers for the Next Anime Arc, which would probably covered in Season 3 (saying probably because they might cover it differently like in a OVA or Movie, as there is always chance of them, be any percentage).
Definitely read volumes 1&2 for the LN's because thats season 1
1. Victoria has a backstory, it’s been a while since I read the LN’s so idk if it’s in there or if it’s in the mobile game
2. We’re currently in the first arc of vol 4 of the LN
I'm guessing that they went easy on her in Shadow Garden's boot camp since they don't know what their master's plans are for her. Any other recruit would've been humbled really hard to avoid situations like this. Let's remember that Rose has been giving them trouble for a while acting on her own.Well, considering most of the new recruits were probably just ordinary girls when they got infected by possession. Rose, on the other hand, was already a great swordswoman before she became possessed snd given power by Cid so she didn't really need a lot of training. Also since she is directly involved in the country that they are currently Operating in having Rose is necessary despite how unmentally trained she is in the organization.Yep, If it was normal members, They would have been killed right there.
So far the light novel Volume one covers season 1, up to episodes 9 of the anime and Volume two covers season 1, episodes 10-20. Volume three covers Lawless City up to season 2, episode 7.
Victoria is on the Eminence in Shadow game... Her backstory was shown there and it's hilarious 😂
in terms of LN progress, we are in volume 3 right now and this season will probably end with 3. I low key hope we get a cliffhanger for the start of volume 4.
The Rose Arc is from the first part of Light Novel Vol.4.
@@Sup_D true I forgot. I thought the whole 4th volume was about the front cover but it makes sense that the lead up to it is also in volume 4. Then I high key hope for a cliffhanger to the next arc.
so much misunderstanding....CID thought rose wanted to be a tyrant(which wasn't true)....than tries to make it happen for her by giving her powers....So now his plan is to take out Rose to look good, but rose announced she getting married so now CID is like....your ruining my plan rose ima kick your ass....while the 3 girls think he going off to kill her lol. I love this show it's so good the writing is god tier!
Cid really didn't understand anything of the Rose story from season 1, even while playing a huge part in it (as always). He really thinks she killed her father because she wanted to become the ruler (supreme tyrant).
Just checking was Goldy and Quinton the leaders of the Volunteer Army?
what door opens outwards . my doors open towards me
I think it should be safe to look her up after you finish this arc as from what I'm told her backstory is only looked into in the games and not the novels and I don't recall her showing up again the in the manga (though she might in the novels which I haven't read)
The weird easter egg was if I am not wrong about it then in the scene with gamma in the bed she had various stuffed toys and one of them was piplup from Pokemon 😅
so far in the LN no backstory for 559
anime is at the beginning of vol 4, vol 6 being the most recent
all the stuff they glossed over with cid being in prison, joining an army and so on is WN only content
The 3 guys who shadow powered up, could they be also the 3 guys in the Jack the Ripper arc, vol 6 light novel? I felt a connection
Nah, the events of Jack the Ripper took place in Midgar Kingdom
Lmao I knew Joe didn't recognize Marie since all her scenes were edited out from the reaction until Cid went all acting material to help her. But seriously, she got a raw deal. Moving from the Lawless City to this shithole of a place and getting hounded for money.
Also I never even thought about the food and door stuff since the past 3 places I've lived at my doors open inwards to the place. lol.
I only saw some of Victoria's backstory information from Shadow in the manga. They will put that in the next episode or not?
you can find Victoria's back story from the mobile games
4:35 without spoiling i can say this much, victoria she is zetas faction in shadow garden, Zeda and her followers are Zealots, like difference between religious person and religious Zealot person, so they can become a problem in future, it wouldn't surprise me if one day they will have shadow garden civil war
Cid 😂Nah bros to goated.Another W ep fr.
5:45 Joe, if you watch YaBoyRockLee's solo response video about 559 vs Rose, he spits some fun! He made some great points in regards to Rose defending her mom. I didn't get to finish the video, so maybe he's cappin, but the beginning made hella sense.
If you are not going to play the shadow's mobile game, then everything about no.559 won't be spoiler to you. Her backstory only show in the mobile game.
We do not see Victoria's backstory in the novel, but I believe it is in the game. I am not sure if it is complete or not, though.
For shadow,rose are not romantically important but her parts for his plans are precious...I glad shadow show concerns towards my beloved Rose
16:48 I don't recall 559/Victoria getting a backstory. She plays her role, but idk who tf she is off the top of my head.
17:20 LN HELLA better than the manga. The manga adds so very many extra gags and shite.
Season 2 is gonna end finishing off volume 3. Volume could could NOT BE BETTER to start a new season. This is what I was hoping for, but in 20 episodes.
559 OR VICTORIA IS ONE OF THE LEAST FAV OF MY CHARACTERS OF SHADOW GARDEN BECAUSE OF THIS WE SEE FROM HER.
Finally we get to see Victoria the zealot
No. 664 is the same VA as Karane in 100 Girlfriend lol
Ive heard each version is good for eminence, its one of the few where each has good points.
Couldn't remember who's the pink hair girl who manages the hotel? Don't worry, I'm certain Cid still has no clue either.
Shadow is actually look scary on other people's perspective
Eminence have each media different. Manga goes more for humour side, novels much different. But like novels above all adaptations.
There 4 published english volumes, and by the look of things, season will end in middle of volume 4. Volume has two arcs, they making only one, Oriana kingdom arc. I think.
Japanese have already 6 volume month before. Envying them.
So you can read first 3 volumes freely. About manga volumes don’t member, but you will see yourself, same timeline.
Um, your door should swing inwards so you don't knock over your uber eats.
She has an intricate backstory. Dont think we will see much of it this season.
I doubt we would see it any time in the future either.
I mean, it's a Game exclusive backstory, while the Anime is primarily focusing only on the plot from the Light Novel.
Dont want to spoil anything, but in the last light novel Zeta started popping off, 556 is... related lets just say. But we wont know for sure until next novel.
You seriously were confused as to why he got pissed when he saw rose was getting married?
Did you forget all the shit they went through in season 1? 😂. Mf did a lot of shit for her to not get married plus they were also dating because she developed a crush for him after he saved her in that school attack so he kinda just rolled with it when she wanted to become his girlfriend.
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Well, i won't spoil,
Victoria or 559 did get her backstory but it is game special(eminence in shadow has a game), you can't find it in anime, light novel or web novel or manga, you have to play the game
Seems victoria is too jealous of someone else getting power from shadow.
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Wow web novel prison arc is canon in the anime? Sweet, I loved that arc
WHERE IS YUBI?!
@@jled787 I wish!
When shadow said someone outdo him is them mary said "shadow" Help her when in need.
So cid jealous with shadow lol.
Maybe it wasn’t the smartest idea to bring Rose on the mission where they would have to kill her mom, just saying.
If 559 requestrd 666's participation and she only recently earned the right to challenge a Numbers, it's not farfetched to assume she volunteered for this "recon" mission.
@@OxygenC2 559 shouldn’t have even allowed 666 on this “recon” mission at all
My guess is 559 wanted to test where 666/Rose loyalty lies, and if she had truly cast away her former life to dedicate herself to Shadow or not since he had directly given her power.
@@Captivename Possibly
I disagree with people saying manga is better than the LN, I say it's the other way around
Cid is far more of a figurehead
Everyone knows Alpha is the true leader of Shadow Garden
Alpha is Trying to find out what he wants to do tho
yes victoria has her own backstory and ITS WAY TOO IMPORTANT! but in this anime i think she won't get her arc this season, you should play their game bro the story is the same BUT it has more detailed to it including the part where shadow fights the mist dragon that it didn't shown in anime where alpha just talk about it to rose in last episode in season 1
Suddenly…knock.
Someone knocked on the window.
Rose looked to the other side, and ...
"Hey…? “Cid-kun…?”
There was the boy where she always thought. Rose looked blushed to the boy with hair and black eyes.
It was as if he were dreaming, because she thought she would never see him again.
"Rose-senpai ..."
She felt a fervent look of her part, a look that transmitted passion towards her. Surely right now, right now, they were both feeling the same thing.
His beats began to become faster, feeling even wanting to simply hug him and flee together.
But she couldn't do it.
"... please, I don't want anyone to see you talking to me." Rose said rationally and coldly.
“Why… why do you do something as dangerous as this?”
“I wanted to talk to you no matter what, Rose-senpai. That is why I infiltrated the castle as a disciple of a pianist. ”
"Everything for me ...?" She wanted to cry.
He had crossed a long way from his country, became the disciple of a famous pianist and infiltrated the castle alone to see Rose.
He surely had to go an unimaginably difficult path.
After all, it was not easy to become the disciple of a pianist and less infiltrate the castle.
“I want to talk about your wedding.”
"N-there is nothing to talk about ..."
Precisely because she loves him, she must move him away.
She knew that they would never be able to be together, and because of that, she was not going to let him get involved in the danger that she was experiencing.
"Tell me that your wedding is a joke."
His heart understood that look, he wanted Rose will deny that.
He wanted him to deny that he was going to marry Doem, since he wanted to marry her. "E-is true ... I'm going to marry Duke Doem for my own will ..."
His voice trembled, and tears finally came out of his eyes.
However, Rose covered her face so that he couldn't see those tears.
"It just can't be…!" He said, with an expression of having received the worst news of her life. Rose shouted in his heart.
For her, it was hard to have to hurt the feelings of the person she loved.
“Then why that day…”
That day they both swore his love, but now Rose was betraying him.
"Please ... already forget me ..."
Tears continued to fall incessantly. She didn't want to hurt him anymore.
"No ... I won't accept it."
"Cid-kun ..."
“It is again like you were before! Remember? You became a magical swordswoman even though this country looks down on you. It must have been hard to be rejected, and live in solitude and yet you chose to follow the path you had chosen, just like I did it a day ... "
"Like you…?"
“I am the one who understands you best, because I also had a dream that was misunderstood by everyone.”
Rose knew what that dream was, there was no need for her to put it into words, she knew.
That was because they both had the same dream. Cid's dream was Rose's and Rose's dream was Cid's.
That dream was, to live together forever.
Marrying and living together with the princess of the kingdom of Oriana was a ridiculous thing for a low-class noble to say.
But Rose never denied that boy's feelings.
That was the proof that both loved each other.
“I understand your dream Cid-Kun! Even if the rest of the world doesn't understand it, only I understand it!!”
"But society does not understand ... they treated me as an idiot, crazy, although that was the most natural reaction."
“No matter what anyone else says, I know that your dream is the most splendid of all…!”
"Senpai ..."
Rose accepted that burning look.
They did not need words, because love was transmitted with their looks.
“We chose our own way, we live in it regardless of the difficulties and rejection of other people. But senpai, now you're trying to get out of that way!”
“I-It's not true, I just…”
Rose's voice denoted doubts.
“You stabbed your fiancé and killed your father. I don’t know the reasons behind all that, but I always believed that that was the path you chose with your own will.”
"Cid-kun ..."
“But… why are you trying to get out of that way now?” "That was why ...!"
“Marrying a fiancé that you once rejected to the point of stabbing him is the same as going out of your way! Didn't you keep walking all this time? “Then why…why are you giving up now?!”
“…!” Rose pressed her lips tightly together, unable to respond with a single word. She knew very well, better than anyone, that this was not the life she wanted.
But in order to protect the things and people she cared about, she had to make a sacrifice...
“Please forget about me…! I just want you to be happy, I don't ask for more than that!!” “I will not accept it. Even if the world is against me, I will never accept it…”
“I have nothing more to talk to you about. Go away please…"
Rose threw Cid out with a strong rejection. Then she turned her back on him and started crying on the floor.
Why did she have to push him away if she loved him so much? Why couldn't she unite, be one with him and live together until the end?
Rose complained at the cruel reality and this merciless fate upon her.
Wtf next ep spoilers
Victoria story can only be found in the game
"found" not fund.
559 is a legit zealot for Shadow and his word is absolute, bigger simp then Alpha. Will get backstory and stuff later during this arc so don´t worry
559 backstory...... not in S2. Maybe in future episodes but the story focuses on Shadow, the Seven Shadows and the Midgar princess'. Numbers (Garden grunts) dont get any story focuses so far in either LN and manga.
yes she has "BUT" that exclusive content for *shadow garden master of garden* Mobile game
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Number 559 is hot but delta is loyal 😂😂 3 more eps left.
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How many people do you think he thinks that they have? 15? 50?
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Why don't you try english dubbed version so that you can understand more