I agree with a bunch of these. I buy what I like. I don’t own a single Beatles record, no Fleetwood Mac or Pink Floyd. Don’t have any “ must own “ records ( that Gatekeepers say you must have ) other than ones I think I must have. Buy what you want to buy. I have Polka music to Rap and everything in between. Not trying to impress anyone, I just love music, any music, on vinyl. It’s MY thing.
I have a load of Beatles, Fleetwood mac and especially pink Floyd. So what. Floyd is one of my favorite bands. Not having great music due to gatekeeper pressure is sad. You love any music? Kamala Harris word salad, but I agree: 'screw the gatekeepers'. They are pompous twats. I also don't collect lp's, except absorb an occasional old collection. I bought mine mostly following the bands, mostly for the music. Lol! buy a 'must own' unheard? That's a double fail haha. Try buying for the music instead of your ego.
@@jjrusy7438….I think it is sad that YOU think that YOUR music is great just because they are giant popular bands. I feel sorry for you just following the rest of the sheep. YOU like what YOU like and I will continue liking what I like. Keep posting negative comments keyboard cowboy and keep boosting your ego that YOUR collection is the best because you have records by all the popular bands. So sad.
Records have become completely commodified and expensive, I'm glad I was able to enjoy the pre internet era of crate digging and thrift store picking from the mid 80's through the 90's. Buying dollar records and discovering incredible music made the whole thing a great hobby and experience.
Yeah these days I pick up just one or two records each time I shop at a brick and mortar. I do love the reissues boom though. Saw a bunch of brand new Charlie Brown / Peanuts vinyl the other day.
Still do. There's a Goodwill in my area that has a vinyl section. I discover new music this way all the time. It's fun to dig' around and pull something up from the stack that's ancient but cool. I relish the fact that they are original pressings from the era in which they were produced even tho they might not be in the best condition. I'll take these tattered ones over re-issues any day of the week, especially as a first-time listener of said band or artist. It adds to the mystique.
@@roamlikekane Let those people think that the good ol' days of finding $1 records is over, that leaves more for us. I don't buy tattered records, but I do find some great stuff out thrifting and buying some small collections when I come across them. Paid $40 for 2 large totes (One tote was split open and most of the records were trashed.) and was able to save a 1st UK press of Sergeant Pepper's out of mostly water damaged covers. There were some real gems in there, and that was about 3 or 4 months ago.
@@agomodern Satisfying isn't it? That's the whole point of it all really; the excavation process, the digging literally as if on expedition then encountering the imperfections resulting from the annals of weathered time reflected back at you as you hold the gem in hand. Btw, when I mention tattered, it's not to say that they ARE RUINED, rather just not Mint or Very Good. If I really dig the artist (pun intended) then I will also buy a second copy, perhaps even a re-issue if available or a better conditioned one.
Sell for retirement? Nah. One day I’ll die. My kids will put my albums out on the curb and sell my HiFi gear for $1500 for everything. Whatever I’ve bought I have bought for my enjoyment
Leave them for your kids to deal with. Great idea. If you are going to put them through that, then at least leave some type of information so that they can at minimum get some money out of it.
A common sign of someone having an addiction is that they minimize their addiction by using phrases like "buying bug". I'll admit I have a record addiction because I have a wall of records too and I rarely listen to them at all, but I still keep buying them. The excuse I use is that I don't have my collection organized like it needs to be (one reason is because I don't organize as quickly as my buying habits, and I don't even buy records that often.) , and that's been going on for a couple of decades. I've been watching vinyl community videos for probably 5 years and I think it's safe to say people in the vinyl community are some of the biggest addiction deniers there are.
I collect records because I like owning physical things of the things I love, also because it makes me appreciate every second of every song, and also because of the investment
I agree with every point. I have done the mental calculation while justifying a purchase thinking I could sell this record later for more,,,, but that will probably never happen.
Frank what can I say thank you for being so honest about this hobby!!! yes vinyl records are not worth what they were just six months ago people just aren't paying that much for vinyl anymore especially online I think the bubble has burst personally I've had enough I will be selling most of my collection hopefully at a fair and reasonable price 😔
As a cassette collector, there are 5 dopamine hits I get when hunting and collecting. One: Finding it. Two: Buying it. (This is because when online, there's that period between the two, when you might be trying to make an offer or check out the other listings to save shipping.) Three: Them sending it with a tracking number (you know nothing went wrong on there end, which is rare but awful) Four: The tape arriving. It didn't get lost in the mail, or sent back if the seller foolishly added for it to be signed for and the tracking was no good. Five: Listening to it, and having it play perfect and enjoyable.
I know a lot of the comments and what you said Frank about what will happen with your to your records when you die or whatever like that or what to do with them when you’re done I guess I think that piggybacks with the stuff you don’t listen to. I’ve got a good collection of in a lot of cliché classic rock that I’ve been building up over the last couple of years and I’m talking Eno a lot and I don’t listen to most of them. So I’ve been giving them away like for instance, I fell at work big fan of Eric Clapton. I was a big fan of Eric Clapton at one time too so I bought a lot of his records used and I just don’t listen to them. So today October 13, 2023 I grab my stack of Eric Clapton records, there’s only five, but they’re good a good five and I gave them to my guy at work. His birthday is on Monday even though he hates birthdays so it’s not a birthday gift and he played guitar at my wedding last year so I said this is a year old wedding gift to him. Now he doesn’t have a Turntable if he doesn’t do vinyl per se, but I think his dad is and he plays with his dad in the band that he’s in called The Five. And I think he’ll just enjoy having Eric Clapton records another check out the notes on the pictures and stuff and to appreciate. And I’ve done this before I give another guy at work here. I’m on my Pink Floyd records cause I despise Pink Floyd and then add an extra Judas Priest album, so I gave it to my brother-in-law who loves Judas Priest. So if you if you have a problem like having too much, just give it away to friends trade with friends.
I've been trying to track down a sealed or near-mint copy of "Happening Now!" (1967) by the Uniques. A dealer on eBay is selling a still-sealed copy for US $499.99. Big selling point -- free shipping! It's been there for quite awhile; I wonder why?
They don't tell you how common some of the "essential" albums are. I bought most of my collection 10-15 years ago, when you would see them at garage sales for $1 each. I would usually of $20 for a box of 50ish records and take them all. Nearly every time, I got a copy of Rumors. I must have given away, traded, or sold half a dozen, and I still have 3 to purge from my collection.
Thankfully, I always think of my physical collection as a curation of my favorites, so I have kept it at a modest collection as I’m well aware they take up a lot of space.
My problem is the price of vinyls now as too many think the vinyl is worth gold when it worth not, but sadly too many fall for it and pay that 500.00 bucks for a vinyl. So I stop buying until prices come back down to reality.
Thank god for thrift stores and yard sales!! I am up to around 1000 + LPs and with 10-12 exceptions I have not paid over $5 most $1 or less. This includes many classic albums. I have mostly 60s to early 80s classic rock. The thrill is in the hunt!! Eventually you will find great albums for really great prices!!
frank that is very good advice you gave your viewers only buy 2 records at time and only the ones you can afford. I think the older the records you have the more value the are worth . I mean the first pressing when the first came out . the are the ones that people will want to buy quick instant not the reissues ones. plus only sell the records that you don't need or don't listen to anymore because the intend to take up too much space on the self. plus when you are selling you fab LPS that are in immaculate condition you never the get the price you want from your local record store they just assets the value to what they think they are worth themselves. which is very demeaning to any record collector such as I have been doing so for the last 33 years or so.
This thing with re-selling records - it's so real, I've seen it anytime. Even if you put ridiculously low price, some records won't sell, because nobody wants them... maybe apart from some guy who doesn't know that and takes everything he comes across.
I decided that some "albums" are not vinyl worthy. So I might only have them on CD. Its sort of like hearing a song on the radio but not liking it enough to buy it.
I had a few thousand records which I had to sell (because I had to move and I had no place to put them) in 1992, when LPs were worth their weight in sawdust. I've collected music all my life -- first records, then CDs, now also LPs again -- because I've always enjoyed building a library of my own that I could use however and whenever the impulse struck me. Sure, I've spent way too much time and money in the 21st Century just trying to get back to where I was 30 years ago. (Well, OK, I didn't feel it necessary to replace everything. I much prefer chamber music and orchestral music on CD because of the dynamic range and the lack of quiet-passage-destroying surface noise.) But since I picked up the hobby again about 10 years ago, and spent a lot of time listening but did not buy a lot of stuff during the pandemic lockdowns, I was shocked to see that records I'd had for a few years (or decades) had (theoretically) increased substantially in "value" (scare quotes intentional) last year. Of course, this means almost nothing to me in a practical sense, because I have no desire to sell my records -- unless there's something wrong with them that makes them unlistenable for me, or I accidentally bought more than one copy of the exact same pressing by mistake. To me, "value" is what the record is worth to you when you're playing it (alone or with others you care about), not what you think you can get for it on Discogs.
Sometimes I hang on to certain records because they are so rare, I know it would be almost impossible to find them again (especially they are in killer condition) and I dont want to retire in a few years and wish I had my records back just when I finally have time to enjoy them.
OK so I have about 300 albums, including some "essential" ones. But I don't buy something just because it's "essential". I don't own Rumours, Hotel California or a few others. Most of these are good albums but are so overplayed thai I don't feel like investing 30-40 bucks on them. I do own DSOTM, but hardly play it for the same reason. I also agree with you Frank that DSOTM is not my favorite Pink Floyd album. My favorite is Wish You Were Here. I love Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
Record collecting is a hobby, something you have chosen to do to occupy your free time. Record collectors are as avid about differences in pressings according to the matrix numbers as sports fans are about the players' stats.
The one in Winnipeg on Sunday? Yes, I have, I've been to the show before and there was a pretty good selection. I found the prices to kinda be on the high side (though that's really a sign of the times). Parking was a pain. But it was still a fun time. I won't be going this time due to other commitments. Frank
Unfortunately I don’t buy records like i used to. Mainly because prices are ridiculous. $29.99 for a new release!? $50 just to order one album plus shipping from over seas. 😂 and now you can’t find anything good in used stores anymore. Its dead and over priced.
thats nothing. i bought a vinyl 200$ and i see some sold for alot money. there are harder vinyl to find like for games or something else and it does take value. you can also find cheap new vinyl for around 10 dollars and used vinyl for a buck .
Lemmy said the chase is better than the catch. I get that about record collecting. It's amazing how quickly the aura and mystique of that grail you always coveted falls away once you own it. Hope you and family good Frank.
Great comment. I have felt that many times. Get a great deal or find something you've been looking for for a while and you feel awesome! A month later you have almost forgotten about that LP and looking for the nest one.
Why would anyone say you’re going to sell your records for retirement???? Buy real estate, invest in a 401K, don’t buy records for retirement unless you are going to enjoy it as a hobby.
Agreed. Nobody should buy any kind of collectible unless owning it is going to give them pleasure. If the resale value overtakes the value of the pleasure it brings then it might be time to sell it. However, I have lost count of the stuff I have sold only to buy it again years later.
I enjoy my entire music collection along with the memorabilia I have acquired over the years. I still enjoy collecting and every time I think of my collection, it puts a smile from ear to ear on my face. That alone is worth my hobby of collecting music.
Couldn't agree more. You beat me to it... lol. Collecting music is not just about CDs and Vinyl etc. If you wish it can expand to books, autographs and instruments etc. My most prized possession is a Taylor acoustic guitar signed by Taylor Swift. I was there when she signed it for me, we chatted for ages.
@@kurjan1 Agree with you 100% and what a prized possession that guitar signed by Taylor Swift. May it bring you name years of smiles as well as the rest of your collection.
I inherited my records from my parents and they are all first pressings. That’s the value for me, but according to Discogs I’m a kazillionaire. I will never sell them ❤
Hi Frank. I have a very large collection of vinyl, which i started collecting in 1963. Thank goodness I started then with prices the way they are now. Some are quite valuable now and I will pass them on to my son who enjoys vinyl as much as I do. Do i listen to them all? At one time or another, yes. I love to revisit albums I haven't played for awhile. Apart from enjoying the music I get a sense of nostalgia from forgotten memories of people I knew and events in my life at the time I bought them. Want to go back in time? Pull out an old album from your past and listen to it. The youth of today have not lived long enough to experience this, but if the music means as much to them as it does to someone like me, they will.
I graduated in 2003 from high school and even while in high school I always knew that The Beatles "In My Life" would be the song I'd use to reflect in the future.
Adjusted for inflation $30 now was $3 and change in ‘63… how much were you paying for LPs in ‘63? I saw a Quora answer that claimed they were abt $3.30 in 1963, so I’m wondering if the price is really worse now
@@anthonysmith3850 LPs were $2.99 + tax for mono and $1 more for stereo. I usually bought mono. 45s were $1.00 plus tax. I couldn't afford albums until I started working in the mid-60s, nor could I pay $1 for 45s. However, Owl Rexall drug stores sold 45s for 50 cents. You had to go regularly and dig through the dreck to find the occasional hit. That's how I built my collection to over 300.
From one old man to another you couldn't have put it better, I started mid 70s on vinyl at 16, now I go to record fairs with my son & grandson who turned 16 this week & is saving up for his first turntable although he already has his first vinyl albums to play on his Dad's turntable. My son says its down to me as he loved it when I let them choose the vinyl album to play on our family nights in.
@2:49 -- Of course you lose interest in that special album that you worked so hard to acquire. That goes with just about everything. The person that purchased a new Corvette is thrilled to the moon when they drive it home from the dealership. And they are still pleased to own it 6 months later, or 2 years later. But nothing will surpass the day they drove it home. The same goes for a new clothing outfit, or a new watch, or a new computer, or a new pre-amp, or collectible coin or comic-book, or a anything that was a thrill at the time of the purchase. We keep purchasing, because that is the moment of the height of our joy. Even that new joke, that had your drink coming out of your nose, becomes a distant memory. @9:19 -- The reason you will not sell your records when you retire is because you are still you. Why would you one day decide that you no longer want to have a record collection? Also, selling your collection at some ripe old age is you acknowledging that the end is near. I doubt you would do that. Imagine being old, and selling your collection. You would feel empty inside, and you would feel like you just put one foot into your grave. When a young person thinks about getting old, they might have trouble thinking about that old person as themselves. They imagine themselves as some other person doing things that old people supposedly do. If you woke up, tomorrow, and you were old, you would not suddenly stop being you. You would not sell your record collection now, and therefore would not sell your record collection then. Your record collection is one of your accomplishments. People are reluctant to walk away from their accomplishments.
Hey Frank! Great video! For all of the "Star Trek" fans out there; There is an episode of the original series called "Amok Time', there is a comment he makes to his ex-wife; I can't remember the exact quote but, the sentiment is about right ;" Having a thing is not quite as sweet as wanting a thing". Kind of appropriate for this video.
On the flipside, I've listed some CDs up on my eBay store that I didn't think would sell and they ended up selling quicker than the ones I thought would. You just never know with people and someone, somewhere is always looking for something. - Red
Well, the ones that sold so quick were pressed in very limited numbers & are highly sought after. & I'd list below the average selling price to help build my reputation as a seller. That being said, if I can make a few buck & someone gets a record they really want, it's a win/win. I'm not one of those people who thinks I have to have every variant of an album (I actually can't stand people like that.)
Just wanted to comment on your remark about wether DSOTM is the greatest Floyd album or not… I agree… it’s not… personally I think it’s Animals………………… ding ding round one is underway : )
I had a great friend of mine who passed away a few years ago, and I inherited his stereo equipment, and his album and cd collection. The cd collection was large due to the fact he work in a record store. The first thing I did was to go through the collection and keep only what I liked and gave away the rest to other friends who knew him. As I go along I purge even more that I probably won't even listen to. Even his equipment. Some of it just doesn't work for me, so I will try and pass it down to people who knew him and would like something to remember him.
When I sell any record to local shop I expect to get 1/2 of Discogs medium $. I think that’s doable. But I really don’t care what they are worth. The pleasure I get from spinning my records is priceless.
I am old but u sound older, I started vinyl mid 70s, we had my 3 kids choosing the music albums as they grew up they danced to, now have kids of their own doing the same to my grand kids, today I go round my sons & my grandson 16 came in with 2 vinyl albums, his first ones & he is saving for his first turntable. It's made me feel so good.
For me records are my collection of music I don't want to forget about. It's far too easy to have something fall off my radar when only streaming it. Even if I don't listen to some records as often as others I won't forget about those albums. They will be there to remind me of something I do enjoy.
You start gathering a collection. At some point it becomes a library and eventually you have an archive. Then you have a coming to Jesus moment when you're literally running out of room and you face the fact that you're a hoarder. You either embrace it or don't.
I have a vast array of records I have collected over the years, and I love the sound, look and feel of the records. I invested alot in my equipment, and I feel proud of my collection like the first day I bought them.
Someone they don't warn ya about is when you find that one album that is an import copy and you just end up buying it for the alternate label. I forget who it was, but it was a blue label Columbia pressing from Barbados or something like that. It doesn't even matter that its Ray Coniff & His Singers. Its a blue label Columbia record. And that's just another rabbit hole to fall in to. Kinda like why do people collect Herb Alpert's Whipped Cream and have the blue label, red label, both with and without the original back cover. Plus own the white and gold A&M labels. And where does it end? How about on London Records from the UK? Or that weird Taiwan version that's got a yellow cover instead of green. And next thing ya know you got the 8 track, the reel to reel, the cassette, the cd, the picture disc, the mirror, the breakfast cereal, the lunch box, and the flamethrower.
I think age gives you a different perspective on collecting. When you are in your twenties you see this whole life in front of you to enjoy all this stuff you are accumulating. Once you hit your fifties and recognize how fast life is going you realize that you have books you will never finish and records that you will rarely, if ever, listen to. The Japanese actually have a word, tsundoku, for the practice of accumulating large numbers of books that you will never read. I think it would be cool to have a word like this for records.
With collecting, you have to get it into your head that you're doing it as a labor of love. Forget about selling or what's going to happen to your collection. Just enjoy it and get what you like. No doubt it's strictly a pass-time. Everything is! We're trying to fill our time with something that inspires us and takes us away from troubles for a moment. In my experience, buying is rush, but selling is the opposite. Unless you're in a situation where you have lots of potential buyer "traffic" and lots of time, you're going to basically have to give it away. I collect several things, but my dream with my records is to know a young beginner record collector who truly loves the hobby and give him my collection.
Collected since the 60s. These days I love digging in $1 used bin discs. Lots of crap, but sometimes I find treasures that mean something to me even if I can't sell it for more than a $1.
As much as I’ve enjoyed the genre, too many people, and this is true ESPECIALLY across TH-cam, jump up and down and run to plop another video about their classic rock finds. The plain and simple fact is that millions upon millions of albums are out there from “Meet the Beatles” on forward, and the vast majority of classic rock is overpriced. Meanwhile, no one ever puts out a video on the huge classic country, pop, classical or unusual genres in a video, which can sometimes be more in the area of rarer than much of classic rock. Those kinds of videos are getting boring, to be Frank. And the riches you think is coming to fatten your bank account…isn’t.
I am commenting as I watch the video, so that’s why I thought weird I despise Pink Floyd. The radio ruined it for me by playing with the same five songs, over and over and over again I cannot listen a Pink Floyd, ever again, especially Darkside of the moon. So I took the Pink Floyd albums that I had that includes dark side, the wall, wish you were here and I believe one more and I gave them to my friend Matt who is a huge Pink Floyd fan. And he didn’t have them on vinyl so it made him very happy. He turned around and looked them up and I guess they’re all first printing like 1979 or whatever years of those things came out and they’re worth like $300 apiece , he asked if I wanted money for them I said no take them and enjoy them, cuz I won’t. I’m about to give my Eric Clapton record the way to the guy at work whose birthday is coming up. He played guitar at my wedding last year and I still haven’t giving him anything and payment. He loves Eric Clapton so I think I’m gonna do that.
Another great video Frank. Some really great pointers from viewers. I really resonated with what @crazyprayingmantis559 had to say. I don't seem to collect what most vinyl collectors do (e.g. Dylan, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Beatles, Stones, etc. etc.) as I prefer to buy funk, soul, R&B, disco, and pop. Because of that I sometimes kind of feel like an outsider in the VC. I really get tired of the VC going on and on about some heavy metal or rock singer or band and I start to think "don't people collect anything else beside that same old stuff". While I don't feel inferior to others because I'm not into what the mainstream collectors say you should collect, but it would be nice to hear the VC talk about some other genres to collect. Everyone likes what they like and its ok. I'd rather get excited over finding a Luther Vandross, Melba Moore or Stylistics album.
Tell me about it. All jazz collectors talk about is Blue Note while there is a lot of killer stuff on various labels of the time. (Fantasy, Verve, CTI, etc.) Let them keep buying albums at premium prices while we scoop up other labels while they're cheap before they get recognized and skyrocket in price. I have everything from classical to punk in my collection because I buy what I like. I pretty much have every genre in my collection other than ones (subgenera) created after the 1980's.
Great vid!! One thing I'll add. I think it becomes very easy for people to loose site on the "collecting" side of vinyl that some have that you may NOT because of the music element. In other words I so often hear people talking about how often you do or don't listen to an album being the determining factor in having it....YET I have NEVER heard of someone going up to someone who collects baseball memorabilia and saying "Why do you have 45 bats hanging on wall and 90 baseballs in little cube boxes? If you are not going to play baseball with them it's waste. NO, we UNDERSTAND the collecting nature of that. For some reason many folks don't seem to see that along with enjoying the music SOME people ALSO have an element of being that baseball bat collector in their vinyl/music world. So there is GREAT ENJOYMENT and pleasure from owning a bat you may never use? ...same with a record that some may not spin very often at all. When it comes to collecting ANYTHING its truly about what brings pleasure to you and "using" what you collect is a very subjective thing.
One of my big beefs is that people in the vinyl community rag on people that buy to collect vs buy to listen. I too have many records I never ever listen to and it's fine because it's my collection and I am free to choose what I do or do not do with my collection. I really love those that say records are to listen to so vintage records should be unsealed and enjoyed. I won't even open a sealed record only worth $1. If that were the case, let's see them unseal a rare record and put it up for sale vs leaving it sealed and selling it. Let's see just how quick their opinion changes, but I guess they can do what they want with them, on the other hand, there's no need for them to scream it from the rooftops that you should open vintage sealed records. It's the worst advice they could give newbies because they might just be devaluing their collection.
I was just mentioning this yesterday about how I watch some of these videos and think that there’s not enough time to listen to all the vinyl in the background so what’s the point? I watched some guy who had 60+ copies of DSOTM. Why?
My audio system is not connected. But I still buy records. Why? Because I can! I like the hunt; I have found records that I never thought I would find.
great vid! i think intelligence ltd nailed the best.... and theres nothing negative about his comment at all... its just facts. Ive no doubt the act of serious collecting is a deeply rooted psychological crutch or filler for something that is missing in ones life. Im sure if most heavy collectors sat with this and really thought about what drives their hobby / habit they would inevitably reach the same conclusion. Now thats not to say one cant derive pleasure from it... but i think it becomes less about the music the deeper you go down the collecting rabbit hole. It becomes all about the hunt. The momentary dopamine hits of filling a gap in the collection or finding a grail become the reason. At least I came to that conclusion about my own habits several years ago. I found once I got comfortable with selling as much as I bought and really started to curate my collection (never letting it go over an amount that ,to me, was more manageable) I fell back in love with listening again and felt waaaaay more at ease with my hobby instead of it being a bit of a burden. Just my perspective ✌
I think you are confusing two issues are you collecting music that you like and will listen to or are you collecting something like the QR Steely Dan reissues knowing they will go up in price. The most significant pleasure besides listening is hunting through vintage albums looking for something in particular
Well as someone who just hit 50 I don't smoke..don't drink...not into cars or sports. We all have an addiction. The way I see this is an addiction to art. To me vinyl is the canvas and the actual sound is pressed in it and slipped in a painting called the jacket. My kids like it so one day it will be theirs.
I bought both my daughters a record player and stereo set, I give them records regularly. I feel like I have them hooked and that’s where my collection will go when I’m gone. Currently have 3400 in my collection, I hope that’s not overwhelming.
So very true. Moving vinyl is one thing, moving over 1000 78’s is another. Did it without one being damaged. I used plastic containers, old towels, bubble wrap, brought a bag of old tee-shirts to pack them in the containers. It made the ride in my pickup as easy as I possibly could. They were in the “Decca” jackets (Albums) which helped tremendously. It was quite a job. Took two trips to complete the job.
Storage is definitely a concern when it comes to vinyl collecting. I’ve only been collecting for about two years now. My collection started out with just a couple of records, then I needed a milk crate sized record box, I now have a two shelf turntable Stand that is just about full. Digital certainly does not take up as much space but it’s not nearly as fun!
STORAGE: Some years back I went to a firm where I live which produces anything in acrylic. I ordered 30 clear, thick walled acrylic boxes each measured to room 10 albums. The top sides all have a round hole for my forefinger so that I can pull the particular box out of my shelf and slide out the album I want to play. These boxes make sure that my albums are sitting straight on my shelf and when moving to a new locations my record collection is easily stacked (box on box) without fearing ring wear.
First LPs I loved were when I did not have any. Other's systems and LPs at college in early-mid 70s LOL. Those titles became my desert island discs essentially and I went on from there. Actually I want more media LP, CD and still buy some, but I have no more room and want to give away about 175 of the LPs. another story. My attention is taken up on PC watching TH-cam, web, editing and organizing my photography. My attention span is lower, and is harder to relax in order to listen, too! I need a better apt. with less background noise (even with headphone use) and some more space, than this little NYC place to really be able to enjoy listening. That is a very big challenge for this retiree!
you are so correct on the principle of only buying stuff that you truly like. About a hundred years ago when i was in my teens, i would buy anything that was labelled "cool" with my peers, or music press. As i became older and maybe wiser, i realised that about 70% of my collection i couldnt stand. Now im in my sixties,i just buy what resonates with me, and screw it if its "uncool" music. i would now sooner have a collection of 30 or 40 items that i love , than an unwanted collection, taking up space and never played.
A great test is to take the same record some dude is selling at a record fair or shop, tell them you're selling, get ready for a LETDOWN and then ask WHY is he marking 100% on it at his store LOL. This starts a very nice conversation that teaches you a thing or two about the "value" of a collection. I own 47 copies of the same album, so i understand collectors!!! haha GREAT VIDEO MAN!
I absolutely agree with just buying what YOU like, not what some random person on the internet tells you to buy, haha. Something else that "they" don't tell you is that vinyl can contain exclusive tracks that were never released any other way. I enjoy lots of types of music, but I absolutely love Italian eurobeat. I have over 1,000 eurobeat 12" singles from the 80s, 90s and 2000s. My eurobeat collection has essentially become a reference library because hundreds of eurobeat records contain exclusive tracks, which makes it all the more special to listen to these songs and mixes on vinyl. Some of my records get more play than others, but I am a DJ as well. As I said, I enjoy lots of types of other music, but I mostly choose not to buy other genres (classic rock, techno, house, etc) because those are rabbit holes that I don't want to go down. Plus I am already maxed out on space for my eurobeat records and those are the records that I truly love the most. Focus on the music that you truly love!
It's always funny to watch some of the vinyl community channels " discover " Jazz or Country or R&B & you can tell their heart really isn't into it but they feel obligated to show their diversity. It's not necessary & probably costs them subscribers & certainly can cause them to lose credibility.
Recently I was at a record store and saw someone brought in his entire records collection. there were 3 large storage bins filled with albums. Clerks at the store didn't know how to price those records and called the owner in. The owner comes in, digs through the entire collection and offers the owner $140, the owner tried to get more and the store owner increased the offer by $10. The entire collections of 500-600 LPs in great condition for $150. I felt so bad for the guy... This tells you that you will get close to nothing when you will be selling your collection.
@@RogerYng Store owner kept telling the collector that all his records were not original presses, but later reissues. Don't know if that was really the case or just an excuse to lower the price. I'd imagine that if you collect for a while you'd have a mix of original presses and later issues.
I'm 63 and I own "only" 300 vinyl LP's - and this is why (envy alert!!!!): From when I was 24 till I was 51 I worked at the the record library of Danish Radio Corporation (the biggest record collection in northern Europe). My job was to buy whatever albums I felt we needed in the collection and then separate and type in all the metadata from the covers into the database, ie. if a broadcaster needed Walk On The Wild Side for solo kazoo - he could make such a search. In this job I had the opportunity to be hooked on songs and albums, have it spinning on my office turntable sometimes for an entire week and sometimes in the end realising that it was fluff. Therefore I rarely bought any albums - I just brought them back home with me. WHEN I WAS FIRED due to layoffs I knew which albums I couldn't live without and so I bought what roughly amounts to the above 300 (adding to the few albums from my teens). So basically all albums in my collection are gems for me - some artists/bands represented I have complete, others just selectively. When I get too old to rock and roll I have decided to sell my collection to my local 2nd hand vinyl shop. With my knowledge we will settle somewhere betweeen a lowball and a fair price. I wish you all well out there!
All great advice. Last year I sold about 400 of my albums -- ones I love -- and even though I probably could have made more money on the collection -- I was happy to get them to a record store knowing many people would enjoy finding them. Do I miss any of those albums? No! I still have many more I plan on selling, and have almost everything on CD or already transferred the LPs to CDR years ago. I enjoyed finding them, I enjoyed having them, I enjoyed listening to them, and now I enjoy getting them to new homes! When I'm done I will probably keep about 200 albums that mean something important to me -- but I doubt I'll miss the thousands I got rid of at all. And it's so nice not having all my shelves and boxes taking up space with records that haven't been looked at in decades!
Hey Frank, this really got me to thinking. I’m kind of proud of myself, I’m 65 and according to Discogs I have 446 entries. I would say 400 of them are probably vinyl albums. I think I’ve done a good job of just keeping it to what I like what I will listen to and not just having to have everything…the fear of missing out if you will.
I definitely keep it to what I like. What I hate is when some of the music I like has always been pressed in low numbers, & there are people who think they have to have literally every pressing, color variant (if applicable) that exists...basically every version of an album. & for the rest of us, if those people will even part with a copy, it's so ridiculous it's not worth the price. & some people even buy as many copies of limited pressings just to turn around & resell them for 10x more. I'm seeing LPs that I just bought that are on Discogs for $50+ right now, & they're selling, because the buyers aren't aware you can still buy the LP for $12 from the label. I absolutely cannot stand people like that.
Fomo is for those who have no will power , I'm just after vinyl that appeals to me, not even full discographies of artists, coz even the best artists had duff albums. Just vinyl that I feel that I can play all the way through, no dark side, no wall, no weak tracks, all killer no filler!
I only get a full discography from a band/artist that I really like, which aren't many. I did buy an extra copy of an LP that the band reissued because the original was selling for over $100 at the time & they didn't like that. Now they're both going for $300+ easily. But I decided I don't need two copies, so I sold the reissue to a friend. I could have just posted it on Discogs for a couple hundred & sold it within a few hours at most, but I knew he'd truly appreciate having a copy. & he does...just recently he bought me a few LPs to thank me for it (3 or 4 years later lol) for letting him have it for basically what I paid for it.
Hi Frank, Here is my take on collecting. In addition to a very large DVD & Blu-Ray collection, I have a lot of music on CD's & records. I enjoy listening to my CD's right now. My record collection is for when I retire so I can relive the good ol' days before CD's came along when I was buying records. Most of my records were destroyed in a flood so when I buy records, I'm rebuilding my collection with what I had but with upgraded pressings. When I leave this world my family will go shopping through my collection. After they are done, my friends will go shopping. Whatever is left, My DVD/Blu-Ray collection will go to a senior retirement home. My records & CD's will go to a facility that takes care of handicapped individuals. My collection has a very bright future beyond me & I love that feeling! Bill (From Mt. Holly, NJ)
The senior retirement home and the facility that takes care of handicapped individuals couldn't care less about those collections, unless they have thrift stores where they can sell them.
@@agomodern When they get my donations, they will either enjoy them or sell them. Either way is OK by me because it helped them. My sister will know which retirement home & facility for the handicapped will benefit most.
I disagree with the comment about acquiring albums as an empty experience. Maybe its that I don't tend to forget what I have added to my collection, especially if the search for it was difficult or time consuming. Any of the harder to acquire albums are even more solidified in my memory, and makes it even more fulfilling to know that I managed to add it to my collection. But, even the common and mundane albums in my collection have memories associated with them. Collecting anything is more than just simply owning a bunch of stuff. Just like most things in life... most of the enjoyment comes from the journey, not the destination.
I started as a kid in 66 and the collecting market has become insane!! Things are declining here where I live..new vinyl has changed the game.. I remember 3/1$ LPs!! Love the music is the key!
Great video. This topic is so fitting for me at the moment. I just recently have had 3 separate bad experiences trying to sell some of my records to record stores. You see some of these store owners on TH-cam saying there is no money in owning a store, they do it “because they just love music”, yeah, BS!!!!!! I purchased a very nice Monarch pressing of LZ II for $40 at this one store. About a month later I went back to the same store to try and sell it back to him as I was able to get an RL SS for my birthday. The store owner didn’t even want it. Said it wasn’t worth anything. WTH? A similar situation at another store. I have a great copy of a 1st US pressing of the debut album of Black Sabbath. This store only offered me $3 for it. That is easily a $30-$50 record. I don’t get it. I all for businesses making money, but They are just taking advantage of us collectors. I will also agree that selling them online, eBay, discogs, ect…. Is a total pain. So I am now at the point, that I don’t think I will be selling any of them anymore. It is not worth it. So like your one viewer said, buy only the records you really want and that you know you will enjoy for a long time to come.
Yep, exactly. You're much better off selling them yourself. Yeah, it can be a pain and it takes some work, but at least you're not ripping yourself off & will get the maximum amount of money.
The bubble is about to crash . For one new records are way to expensive as no record should cost more than $30 as a record is essentially a hockey puck worth of plastic thats no more than .50 cents in material. People are going to simply stop buying them such as me as I'm not paying $40-$50 for a new release . For example: I happened to be a contractor , as a 12 foot piece of "Vinyl "siding costs around $8-$10 a piece , now please explain as to why a record cost $40??? I've been thrifting for CD's lately as they're abundant and to be honest , CD's simply sound better . If CD's came in a 10x10 sleeve so you could see the artwork they'd take over vinyl again.
As I've gotten older I have realized just how unimportant having a house full of records really is. There is no way I need all of this clutter so I've embarked on a slow but sure sell off. Because of the sheer number of records I have it will be a lifetime project. As I have been finding out it really is a chore to get top dollar for a collectible record. I don't care what it sold for on Ebay in the past it does not necessarily indicate what I will realize for the same record. How many times have I researched a record on Popsike to see it sold for a ton of money in the past only to find I can't get anywhere near that amount. It happens all the time. There are many record sellers who are convinced the "vinyl is back" frenzy has peaked and will start a slow but sure decline. The bubble has burst.
So true with regards to price. Discogs like eBay is what people actually pay vs what they ideally cost. I prefer the local store anyway - yeah they dont pay Discogs 'prices' but it's decent, quick and a better rate if you trade in for more records. I don't agree with the emptiness of collecting though- I don't keep records I don't like or bad pressings. I love randomly choosing records from my collection too and kicking back. I love the process too and the routine. If you feel empty after buying records maybe that says something more about you'd your life? Maybe go fulfil it elsewhere? Don't buy on credit though- that's my advice for this hobby.
I actually had the opposite of your 'Grail' story. When I first started re-collecting, I wished I could find some early U2 albums, specifically Unforgettable Fire. Well, I found it in a rummage store, along with a copy of Genesis:Trick of the Tail. I figured I'd listen to U2 for hundreds of plays and once in a while I'd listen to Genesis. Instead, after 10 yrs from then till now, I've listened to Genesis hundreds of times while U2 sits on my shelf for nine months at a time, and I often play one side only, usually the opposite of the one I heard the last time. I guess tastes change from when you're a teenager, sometimes more than you realize.😀
This applies to all sorts of collectibles. There has to be someone who is willing to pay what you are charging. I always price stuff to sell quickly on EBay and that means selling for about half what things are supposedly worth.
Collecting records is smart. How smart? That all depends on what records you collect. Rare records with limited number of pressings will continue to appreciate in value. Collecting common records that are pressed in quantities of over and above hundreds of thousands lose their secondary market value as soon as they leave the record store. What they don’t tell you is it’s all about what records you collect (pressing, condition, genre and accessibility) that determine your collections future “realistic” value. That only applies to those who want to collect records as an investment as well as a hobby. To those who are in it just for the fun and the music more power to you, simply enjoy your records.
Two things I tell my customers…1. Do not collect records, rather build a listening library. 2. Buy budget and occasionally treat yourself to a pricy record. Adam
The word "worth" suggests there's some kind of investment mindset going on. Records are as good an "investment" as an automobile. The point about attempting to fill a spiritual hole is completely valid. Acquiring a "grail" gives you a high, but its short lived. I also find there's a type of person out there who buys collectable records for the sole purpose of gaining bragging rights. For me I find the hunt is a lot more fun than the capture.
For me music is music, I don't care about the format, If digital is the most convenient and least expensive so be it. I no longer have any physical media I cleaned up my life, I use to collect a lot of stuff but at middle age I chose to be free from being attached to physical things.
I can tell what will happen with your collection. My uncle had a gigantic collection of vinyl, several thousands of recrods. He died in 2007, he was 57 years old. His collection got picked apart by people picking their favorites for a mediocre price. The rest was sold of in mass for cheap. Everything is gone and nobody really cared. His oldest son was a music lover but here's the thing, he was a music lover NOT a hoarder. All that vinyl was really impractical, he has everything (and more) digitally. To him it's about the music, not the hoarding. Most of you people are about collecting and less about loving music. If you think that's not true....digital is way more convenient and accessible and that's what people who love music tend to want.
I’ve talked about this many times on my channel about record store day, and how it operates basically on FOMO! I really hate that, and it really forces sales that really they didn’t earn! I totally agree with by only the artists and only the things that you really want and love! Moving is hell when you have lots of records just to have a lot of records sake! I have widowed my collection down to probably 1400 or so, and I can live with that! But all it takes is one move and it teaches you the lesson through both your head and your back! Great video, Frank
Thanks Frank. Might have to look into that. I’ve got the red Blind Rage cd box, very cool. Love The Rise Of Chaos box too, maybe my fave album of theirs….yes I know, sacrilege lol…never been a fan of Udo’s voice…..
Oh yeah and something they never tell you: your gear is *never ever* good enough according to audiophiles. I mean, I own a SL-1200G with an SME V tonearm and AT-ART9XI cartridge (about 9~10k in total) and I still come across audiophiles from time to time who turn their nose up, like: "it's just a souped up DJ turntable"
I'm gonna have to disagree about the WORTH factor in two ways. 1) you will have to pry my Beatles Numbered White Album from my dead hands. How much did I pay for it? ZERO dollars. It was passed down from my Aunt that bought it when she was in college brand new. Now let's go to the 2) factor. That same album will be passed down to my daughter that is 23, and also a Record collector. I have expensive records in my collection and I have records that I bought for a dollar in my collection. I enjoy and play most of them. I think the biggest fun in collecting is the find itself. Every record I own is attached to either a childhood or adult memory. So I guess when I'm really old and have dementia at least my records will give me some entertainment. 😂
Greetings from Costa Rica! I am a Christian Rock collector, so my spectrum is not wide. However, I own like 1000 cds and 300 vinyls. It isn't that big but as you said it is sizeable. Here is the question, how many hours a day do you listen to music? Do you isolate from your family when you do? I live in one floor apartment. I listen to my records when I am getting ready for work or when I am doing chores. It is hard for me just to sit down and listen to music. I have to be doing something else, is that weird? I have tried to stop buying but I simply can´t. Love your channel. I am an English teacher here and btw my favorite band is Stryper
I agree with a bunch of these. I buy what I like. I don’t own a single Beatles record, no Fleetwood Mac or Pink Floyd. Don’t have any “ must own “ records ( that Gatekeepers say you must have ) other than ones I think I must have. Buy what you want to buy. I have Polka music to Rap and everything in between. Not trying to impress anyone, I just love music, any music, on vinyl. It’s MY thing.
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This comment is 1000 % all that matters- totally agree….
I have a load of Beatles, Fleetwood mac and especially pink Floyd. So what. Floyd is one of my favorite bands. Not having great music due to gatekeeper pressure is sad. You love any music? Kamala Harris word salad, but I agree: 'screw the gatekeepers'. They are pompous twats. I also don't collect lp's, except absorb an occasional old collection. I bought mine mostly following the bands, mostly for the music. Lol! buy a 'must own' unheard? That's a double fail haha. Try buying for the music instead of your ego.
I like the Beatles, but I only have very scratched, American first edition of Revolver 🙂
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I know you were but you did a half-ass job on it
And I know I deleted em 🤷
@@jjrusy7438….I think it is sad that YOU think that YOUR music is great just because they are giant popular bands. I feel sorry for you just following the rest of the sheep. YOU like what YOU like and I will continue liking what I like. Keep posting negative comments keyboard cowboy and keep boosting your ego that YOUR collection is the best because you have records by all the popular bands. So sad.
Records have become completely commodified and expensive, I'm glad I was able to enjoy the pre internet era of crate digging and thrift store picking from the mid 80's through the 90's. Buying dollar records and discovering incredible music made the whole thing a great hobby and experience.
Back then you could find used records for a dollar each. That was the time to collect.
Yeah these days I pick up just one or two records each time I shop at a brick and mortar. I do love the reissues boom though. Saw a bunch of brand new Charlie Brown / Peanuts vinyl the other day.
Still do. There's a Goodwill in my area that has a vinyl section. I discover new music this way all the time. It's fun to dig' around and pull something up from the stack that's ancient but cool. I relish the fact that they are original pressings from the era in which they were produced even tho they might not be in the best condition. I'll take these tattered ones over re-issues any day of the week, especially as a first-time listener of said band or artist. It adds to the mystique.
@@roamlikekane Let those people think that the good ol' days of finding $1 records is over, that leaves more for us. I don't buy tattered records, but I do find some great stuff out thrifting and buying some small collections when I come across them. Paid $40 for 2 large totes (One tote was split open and most of the records were trashed.) and was able to save a 1st UK press of Sergeant Pepper's out of mostly water damaged covers. There were some real gems in there, and that was about 3 or 4 months ago.
@@agomodern Satisfying isn't it? That's the whole point of it all really; the excavation process, the digging literally as if on expedition then encountering the imperfections resulting from the annals of weathered time reflected back at you as you hold the gem in hand. Btw, when I mention tattered, it's not to say that they ARE RUINED, rather just not Mint or Very Good. If I really dig the artist (pun intended) then I will also buy a second copy, perhaps even a re-issue if available or a better conditioned one.
Sell for retirement? Nah. One day I’ll die. My kids will put my albums out on the curb and sell my HiFi gear for $1500 for everything. Whatever I’ve bought I have bought for my enjoyment
Yeah, that's just silly.. Retirement is when you'll have time to actually sit down and enjoy your collection! 😅
Leave them for your kids to deal with. Great idea. If you are going to put them through that, then at least leave some type of information so that they can at minimum get some money out of it.
A common sign of someone having an addiction is that they minimize their addiction by using phrases like "buying bug". I'll admit I have a record addiction because I have a wall of records too and I rarely listen to them at all, but I still keep buying them. The excuse I use is that I don't have my collection organized like it needs to be (one reason is because I don't organize as quickly as my buying habits, and I don't even buy records that often.) , and that's been going on for a couple of decades. I've been watching vinyl community videos for probably 5 years and I think it's safe to say people in the vinyl community are some of the biggest addiction deniers there are.
I collect records because I like owning physical things of the things I love, also because it makes me appreciate every second of every song, and also because of the investment
I agree with every point. I have done the mental calculation while justifying a purchase thinking I could sell this record later for more,,,, but that will probably never happen.
Frank what can I say thank you for being so honest about this hobby!!! yes vinyl records are not worth what they were just six months ago people just aren't paying that much for vinyl anymore especially online I think the bubble has burst personally I've had enough I will be selling most of my collection hopefully at a fair and reasonable price 😔
As a cassette collector, there are 5 dopamine hits I get when hunting and collecting.
One: Finding it.
Two: Buying it. (This is because when online, there's that period between the two, when you might be trying to make an offer or check out the other listings to save shipping.)
Three: Them sending it with a tracking number (you know nothing went wrong on there end, which is rare but awful)
Four: The tape arriving. It didn't get lost in the mail, or sent back if the seller foolishly added for it to be signed for and the tracking was no good.
Five: Listening to it, and having it play perfect and enjoyable.
In my experience, records are worth more than I think. Crazy what people are paying at auction these days on eBay
I know a lot of the comments and what you said Frank about what will happen with your to your records when you die or whatever like that or what to do with them when you’re done I guess I think that piggybacks with the stuff you don’t listen to. I’ve got a good collection of in a lot of cliché classic rock that I’ve been building up over the last couple of years and I’m talking Eno a lot and I don’t listen to most of them. So I’ve been giving them away like for instance, I fell at work big fan of Eric Clapton. I was a big fan of Eric Clapton at one time too so I bought a lot of his records used and I just don’t listen to them. So today October 13, 2023 I grab my stack of Eric Clapton records, there’s only five, but they’re good a good five and I gave them to my guy at work. His birthday is on Monday even though he hates birthdays so it’s not a birthday gift and he played guitar at my wedding last year so I said this is a year old wedding gift to him.
Now he doesn’t have a Turntable if he doesn’t do vinyl per se, but I think his dad is and he plays with his dad in the band that he’s in called The Five.
And I think he’ll just enjoy having Eric Clapton records another check out the notes on the pictures and stuff and to appreciate. And I’ve done this before I give another guy at work here. I’m on my Pink Floyd records cause I despise Pink Floyd and then add an extra Judas Priest album, so I gave it to my brother-in-law who loves Judas Priest. So if you if you have a problem like having too much, just give it away to friends trade with friends.
Might be the "REALEST" episode I have ever seen on this channel. Awesome.
I've been trying to track down a sealed or near-mint copy of "Happening Now!" (1967) by the Uniques. A dealer on eBay is selling a still-sealed copy for US $499.99. Big selling point -- free shipping! It's been there for quite awhile; I wonder why?
They don't tell you how common some of the "essential" albums are. I bought most of my collection 10-15 years ago, when you would see them at garage sales for $1 each. I would usually of $20 for a box of 50ish records and take them all. Nearly every time, I got a copy of Rumors. I must have given away, traded, or sold half a dozen, and I still have 3 to purge from my collection.
A real music collection is priceless....
"They" will tell you anything to keep you
Shopping.
Red Dirt Country on vinyl is what I buy today at the age of 56. New music new memories.
Thankfully, I always think of my physical collection as a curation of my favorites, so I have kept it at a modest collection as I’m well aware they take up a lot of space.
My problem is the price of vinyls now as too many think the vinyl is worth gold when it worth not, but sadly too many fall for it and pay that 500.00 bucks for a vinyl. So I stop buying until prices come back down to reality.
Not once have I found a record in the thrift store for close to $500. You're just looking in the wrong places.
I have "Dark Side" and 2 copies of "Rumours". Not sure what the big deal is about that, they are just records like any other!
Thank god for thrift stores and yard sales!! I am up to around 1000 + LPs and with 10-12 exceptions I have not paid over $5 most $1 or less. This includes many classic albums. I have mostly 60s to early 80s classic rock. The thrill is in the hunt!! Eventually you will find great albums for really great prices!!
frank that is very good advice you gave your viewers only buy 2 records at time and only the ones you can afford. I think the older the records you have the more value the are worth . I mean the first pressing when the first came out . the are the ones that people will want to buy quick instant not the reissues ones. plus only sell the records that you don't need or don't listen to anymore because the intend to take up too much space on the self. plus when you are selling you fab LPS that are in immaculate condition you never the get the price you want from your local record store they just assets the value to what they think they are worth themselves. which is very demeaning to any record collector such as I have been doing so for the last 33 years or so.
This thing with re-selling records - it's so real, I've seen it anytime.
Even if you put ridiculously low price, some records won't sell, because nobody wants them... maybe apart from some guy who doesn't know that and takes everything he comes across.
I decided that some "albums" are not vinyl worthy. So I might only have them on CD. Its sort of like hearing a song on the radio but not liking it enough to buy it.
I had a few thousand records which I had to sell (because I had to move and I had no place to put them) in 1992, when LPs were worth their weight in sawdust. I've collected music all my life -- first records, then CDs, now also LPs again -- because I've always enjoyed building a library of my own that I could use however and whenever the impulse struck me. Sure, I've spent way too much time and money in the 21st Century just trying to get back to where I was 30 years ago. (Well, OK, I didn't feel it necessary to replace everything. I much prefer chamber music and orchestral music on CD because of the dynamic range and the lack of quiet-passage-destroying surface noise.) But since I picked up the hobby again about 10 years ago, and spent a lot of time listening but did not buy a lot of stuff during the pandemic lockdowns, I was shocked to see that records I'd had for a few years (or decades) had (theoretically) increased substantially in "value" (scare quotes intentional) last year.
Of course, this means almost nothing to me in a practical sense, because I have no desire to sell my records -- unless there's something wrong with them that makes them unlistenable for me, or I accidentally bought more than one copy of the exact same pressing by mistake. To me, "value" is what the record is worth to you when you're playing it (alone or with others you care about), not what you think you can get for it on Discogs.
Sometimes I hang on to certain records because they are so rare, I know it would be almost impossible to find them again (especially they are in killer condition) and I dont want to retire in a few years and wish I had my records back just when I finally have time to enjoy them.
Spot on!
I find that ever since I cut down on my VC viewing, I blow less cash on vinyl, lol
OK so I have about 300 albums, including some "essential" ones. But I don't buy something just because it's "essential". I don't own Rumours, Hotel California or a few others. Most of these are good albums but are so overplayed thai I don't feel like investing 30-40 bucks on them. I do own DSOTM, but hardly play it for the same reason. I also agree with you Frank that DSOTM is not my favorite Pink Floyd album. My favorite is Wish You Were Here. I love Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
I have Rumours but didn't pay near 30 to 40 dollars, so it's in my collection.
Just enjoy the music.
Record collecting is a hobby, something you have chosen to do to occupy your free time. Record collectors are as avid about differences in pressings according to the matrix numbers as sports fans are about the players' stats.
have you heard or seen the ad for a large record sale locally and your thoughts on it Thanks
The one in Winnipeg on Sunday? Yes, I have, I've been to the show before and there was a pretty good selection. I found the prices to kinda be on the high side (though that's really a sign of the times). Parking was a pain. But it was still a fun time. I won't be going this time due to other commitments.
Frank
I'm talking about one on kajiji has 16.000 records for sale here in town
Ah... I have seen that one, but haven't checked it out.
Dont care... brought all mine in charity shops up intil 13 years ago for about a pound each. Doing the same with DVDs now, 10 for a £1.
Unfortunately I don’t buy records like i used to. Mainly because prices are ridiculous. $29.99 for a new release!? $50 just to order one album plus shipping from over seas. 😂 and now you can’t find anything good in used stores anymore. Its dead and over priced.
thats nothing. i bought a vinyl 200$ and i see some sold for alot money. there are harder vinyl to find like for games or something else and it does take value. you can also find cheap new vinyl for around 10 dollars and used vinyl for a buck .
Lemmy said the chase is better than the catch. I get that about record collecting. It's amazing how quickly the aura and mystique of that grail you always coveted falls away once you own it. Hope you and family good Frank.
Great comment. I have felt that many times. Get a great deal or find something you've been looking for for a while and you feel awesome! A month later you have almost forgotten about that LP and looking for the nest one.
Why would anyone say you’re going to sell your records for retirement???? Buy real estate, invest in a 401K, don’t buy records for retirement unless you are going to enjoy it as a hobby.
And of course retirement is when you get to enjoy the music the most.
30 years ago people said the same thing about beanie babies...how'd that work out?
Agreed. Nobody should buy any kind of collectible unless owning it is going to give them pleasure. If the resale value overtakes the value of the pleasure it brings then it might be time to sell it. However, I have lost count of the stuff I have sold only to buy it again years later.
I enjoy my entire music collection along with the memorabilia I have acquired over the years. I still enjoy collecting and every time I think of my collection, it puts a smile from ear to ear on my face. That alone is worth my hobby of collecting music.
Couldn't agree more. You beat me to it... lol. Collecting music is not just about CDs and Vinyl etc. If you wish it can expand to books, autographs and instruments etc. My most prized possession is a Taylor acoustic guitar signed by Taylor Swift. I was there when she signed it for me, we chatted for ages.
I've heard many a smoker say they smoke because they enjoy it. lol. Ah yes, a smoking addiction fueled by the love of smoking.
@@kurjan1 Agree with you 100% and what a prized possession that guitar signed by Taylor Swift. May it bring you name years of smiles as well as the rest of your collection.
Here Here ... Yes,now that's a true story!
I inherited my records from my parents and they are all first pressings. That’s the value for me, but according to Discogs I’m a kazillionaire. I will never sell them ❤
Hi Frank. I have a very large collection of vinyl, which i started collecting in 1963. Thank goodness I started then with prices the way they are now. Some are quite valuable now and I will pass them on to my son who enjoys vinyl as much as I do. Do i listen to them all? At one time or another, yes. I love to revisit albums I haven't played for awhile. Apart from enjoying the music I get a sense of nostalgia from forgotten memories of people I knew and events in my life at the time I bought them. Want to go back in time? Pull out an old album from your past and listen to it. The youth of today have not lived long enough to experience this, but if the music means as much to them as it does to someone like me, they will.
I graduated in 2003 from high school and even while in high school I always knew that The Beatles "In My Life" would be the song I'd use to reflect in the future.
Adjusted for inflation $30 now was $3 and change in ‘63… how much were you paying for LPs in ‘63? I saw a Quora answer that claimed they were abt $3.30 in 1963, so I’m wondering if the price is really worse now
@anthonysmith3850 As I recall they were between 2 & 4 dollars. I suppose it's a matter of perception with today's prices isn't it...
@@anthonysmith3850 LPs were $2.99 + tax for mono and $1 more for stereo. I usually bought mono. 45s were $1.00 plus tax. I couldn't afford albums until I started working in the mid-60s, nor could I pay $1 for 45s. However, Owl Rexall drug stores sold 45s for 50 cents. You had to go regularly and dig through the dreck to find the occasional hit. That's how I built my collection to over 300.
From one old man to another you couldn't have put it better, I started mid 70s on vinyl at 16, now I go to record fairs with my son & grandson who turned 16 this week & is saving up for his first turntable although he already has his first vinyl albums to play on his Dad's turntable. My son says its down to me as he loved it when I let them choose the vinyl album to play on our family nights in.
@2:49 -- Of course you lose interest in that special album that you worked so hard to acquire. That goes with just about everything.
The person that purchased a new Corvette is thrilled to the moon when they drive it home from the dealership.
And they are still pleased to own it 6 months later, or 2 years later. But nothing will surpass the day they drove it home.
The same goes for a new clothing outfit, or a new watch, or a new computer, or a new pre-amp, or collectible coin or comic-book, or a anything that was a thrill at the time of the purchase. We keep purchasing, because that is the moment of the height of our joy. Even that new joke, that had your drink coming out of your nose, becomes a distant memory.
@9:19 -- The reason you will not sell your records when you retire is because you are still you.
Why would you one day decide that you no longer want to have a record collection?
Also, selling your collection at some ripe old age is you acknowledging that the end is near. I doubt you would do that.
Imagine being old, and selling your collection. You would feel empty inside, and you would feel like you just put one foot into your grave.
When a young person thinks about getting old, they might have trouble thinking about that old person as themselves. They imagine themselves as some other person doing things that old people supposedly do. If you woke up, tomorrow, and you were old, you would not suddenly stop being you. You would not sell your record collection now, and therefore would not sell your record collection then.
Your record collection is one of your accomplishments. People are reluctant to walk away from their accomplishments.
Hey Frank! Great video! For all of the "Star Trek" fans out there; There is an episode of the original series called "Amok Time', there is a comment he makes to his ex-wife; I can't remember the exact quote but, the sentiment is about right ;" Having a thing is not quite as sweet as wanting a thing". Kind of appropriate for this video.
“After a time, you may find that ‘having’ is not so pleasing a thing after all as ‘wanting.’ It is not logical, but it is often true.”
On the flipside, I've listed some CDs up on my eBay store that I didn't think would sell and they ended up selling quicker than the ones I thought would. You just never know with people and someone, somewhere is always looking for something.
- Red
Right on. I have listings that have been up since last year at least, & I've had more than a few sell within 30 minutes or less after posting.
Sweet dreams are made of this
Well, the ones that sold so quick were pressed in very limited numbers & are highly sought after. & I'd list below the average selling price to help build my reputation as a seller.
That being said, if I can make a few buck & someone gets a record they really want, it's a win/win. I'm not one of those people who thinks I have to have every variant of an album (I actually can't stand people like that.)
Just wanted to comment on your remark about wether DSOTM is the greatest Floyd album or not… I agree… it’s not… personally I think it’s Animals………………… ding ding round one is underway : )
I had a great friend of mine who passed away a few years ago, and I inherited his stereo equipment, and his album and cd collection. The cd collection was large due to the fact he work in a record store. The first thing I did was to go through the collection and keep only what I liked and gave away the rest to other friends who knew him. As I go along I purge even more that I probably won't even listen to. Even his equipment. Some of it just doesn't work for me, so I will try and pass it down to people who knew him and would like something to remember him.
A few years and you say "I will try and pass it down...." What is taking you so long?
When I sell any record to local shop I expect to get 1/2 of Discogs medium $. I think that’s doable. But I really don’t care what they are worth. The pleasure I get from spinning my records is priceless.
I am old but u sound older, I started vinyl mid 70s, we had my 3 kids choosing the music albums as they grew up they danced to, now have kids of their own doing the same to my grand kids, today I go round my sons & my grandson 16 came in with 2 vinyl albums, his first ones & he is saving for his first turntable. It's made me feel so good.
For me records are my collection of music I don't want to forget about. It's far too easy to have something fall off my radar when only streaming it. Even if I don't listen to some records as often as others I won't forget about those albums. They will be there to remind me of something I do enjoy.
Well said!
You start gathering a collection. At some point it becomes a library and eventually you have an archive. Then you have a coming to Jesus moment when you're literally running out of room and you face the fact that you're a hoarder. You either embrace it or don't.
Most people don't even listen to half of their record collections .
@@manchesterexplorer8519 But it's there when I want to.
@@manchesterexplorer8519 but it's there when I want to.
I have a vast array of records I have collected over the years, and I love the sound, look and feel of the records. I invested alot in my equipment, and I feel proud of my collection like the first day I bought them.
Good for you.👍
Someone they don't warn ya about is when you find that one album that is an import copy and you just end up buying it for the alternate label. I forget who it was, but it was a blue label Columbia pressing from Barbados or something like that. It doesn't even matter that its Ray Coniff & His Singers. Its a blue label Columbia record. And that's just another rabbit hole to fall in to. Kinda like why do people collect Herb Alpert's Whipped Cream and have the blue label, red label, both with and without the original back cover. Plus own the white and gold A&M labels. And where does it end? How about on London Records from the UK? Or that weird Taiwan version that's got a yellow cover instead of green. And next thing ya know you got the 8 track, the reel to reel, the cassette, the cd, the picture disc, the mirror, the breakfast cereal, the lunch box, and the flamethrower.
I think age gives you a different perspective on collecting. When you are in your twenties you see this whole life in front of you to enjoy all this stuff you are accumulating. Once you hit your fifties and recognize how fast life is going you realize that you have books you will never finish and records that you will rarely, if ever, listen to. The Japanese actually have a word, tsundoku, for the practice of accumulating large numbers of books that you will never read. I think it would be cool to have a word like this for records.
The word is ‘Stupidity"🤣
Our values have changed
I think I have tsundoku
Tsundoku's English translation is "Thrift-Shop"
With collecting, you have to get it into your head that you're doing it as a labor of love. Forget about selling or what's going to happen to your collection. Just enjoy it and get what you like. No doubt it's strictly a pass-time. Everything is! We're trying to fill our time with something that inspires us and takes us away from troubles for a moment. In my experience, buying is rush, but selling is the opposite. Unless you're in a situation where you have lots of potential buyer "traffic" and lots of time, you're going to basically have to give it away. I collect several things, but my dream with my records is to know a young beginner record collector who truly loves the hobby and give him my collection.
Collected since the 60s. These days I love digging in $1 used bin discs. Lots of crap, but sometimes I find treasures that mean something to me even if I can't sell it for more than a $1.
As much as I’ve enjoyed the genre, too many people, and this is true ESPECIALLY across TH-cam, jump up and down and run to plop another video about their classic rock finds. The plain and simple fact is that millions upon millions of albums are out there from “Meet the Beatles” on forward, and the vast majority of classic rock is overpriced. Meanwhile, no one ever puts out a video on the huge classic country, pop, classical or unusual genres in a video, which can sometimes be more in the area of rarer than much of classic rock. Those kinds of videos are getting boring, to be Frank. And the riches you think is coming to fatten your bank account…isn’t.
I am commenting as I watch the video, so that’s why I thought weird
I despise Pink Floyd. The radio ruined it for me by playing with the same five songs, over and over and over again I cannot listen a Pink Floyd, ever again, especially Darkside of the moon.
So I took the Pink Floyd albums that I had that includes dark side, the wall, wish you were here and I believe one more and I gave them to my friend Matt who is a huge Pink Floyd fan. And he didn’t have them on vinyl so it made him very happy. He turned around and looked them up and I guess they’re all first printing like 1979 or whatever years of those things came out and they’re worth like $300 apiece , he asked if I wanted money for them I said no take them and enjoy them, cuz I won’t.
I’m about to give my Eric Clapton record the way to the guy at work whose birthday is coming up. He played guitar at my wedding last year and I still haven’t giving him anything and payment. He loves Eric Clapton so I think I’m gonna do that.
Another great video Frank. Some really great pointers from viewers. I really resonated with what @crazyprayingmantis559 had to say. I don't seem to collect what most vinyl collectors do (e.g. Dylan, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Beatles, Stones, etc. etc.) as I prefer to buy funk, soul, R&B, disco, and pop. Because of that I sometimes kind of feel like an outsider in the VC. I really get tired of the VC going on and on about some heavy metal or rock singer or band and I start to think "don't people collect anything else beside that same old stuff". While I don't feel inferior to others because I'm not into what the mainstream collectors say you should collect, but it would be nice to hear the VC talk about some other genres to collect. Everyone likes what they like and its ok. I'd rather get excited over finding a Luther Vandross, Melba Moore or Stylistics album.
Tell me about it. All jazz collectors talk about is Blue Note while there is a lot of killer stuff on various labels of the time. (Fantasy, Verve, CTI, etc.) Let them keep buying albums at premium prices while we scoop up other labels while they're cheap before they get recognized and skyrocket in price. I have everything from classical to punk in my collection because I buy what I like. I pretty much have every genre in my collection other than ones (subgenera) created after the 1980's.
Great vid!! One thing I'll add. I think it becomes very easy for people to loose site on the "collecting" side of vinyl that some have that you may NOT because of the music element. In other words I so often hear people talking about how often you do or don't listen to an album being the determining factor in having it....YET I have NEVER heard of someone going up to someone who collects baseball memorabilia and saying "Why do you have 45 bats hanging on wall and 90 baseballs in little cube boxes? If you are not going to play baseball with them it's waste. NO, we UNDERSTAND the collecting nature of that. For some reason many folks don't seem to see that along with enjoying the music SOME people ALSO have an element of being that baseball bat collector in their vinyl/music world. So there is GREAT ENJOYMENT and pleasure from owning a bat you may never use? ...same with a record that some may not spin very often at all. When it comes to collecting ANYTHING its truly about what brings pleasure to you and "using" what you collect is a very subjective thing.
One of my big beefs is that people in the vinyl community rag on people that buy to collect vs buy to listen. I too have many records I never ever listen to and it's fine because it's my collection and I am free to choose what I do or do not do with my collection. I really love those that say records are to listen to so vintage records should be unsealed and enjoyed. I won't even open a sealed record only worth $1. If that were the case, let's see them unseal a rare record and put it up for sale vs leaving it sealed and selling it. Let's see just how quick their opinion changes, but I guess they can do what they want with them, on the other hand, there's no need for them to scream it from the rooftops that you should open vintage sealed records. It's the worst advice they could give newbies because they might just be devaluing their collection.
I was just mentioning this yesterday about how I watch some of these videos and think that there’s not enough time to listen to all the vinyl in the background so what’s the point? I watched some guy who had 60+ copies of DSOTM. Why?
My audio system is not connected. But I still buy records. Why? Because I can!
I like the hunt; I have found records that I never thought I would find.
great vid! i think intelligence ltd nailed the best.... and theres nothing negative about his comment at all... its just facts. Ive no doubt the act of serious collecting is a deeply rooted psychological crutch or filler for something that is missing in ones life. Im sure if most heavy collectors sat with this and really thought about what drives their hobby / habit they would inevitably reach the same conclusion. Now thats not to say one cant derive pleasure from it... but i think it becomes less about the music the deeper you go down the collecting rabbit hole. It becomes all about the hunt. The momentary dopamine hits of filling a gap in the collection or finding a grail become the reason. At least I came to that conclusion about my own habits several years ago. I found once I got comfortable with selling as much as I bought and really started to curate my collection (never letting it go over an amount that ,to me, was more manageable) I fell back in love with listening again and felt waaaaay more at ease with my hobby instead of it being a bit of a burden. Just my perspective ✌
I think you are confusing two issues are you collecting music that you like and will listen to
or are you collecting something like the QR Steely Dan reissues knowing they will go up in price. The most significant pleasure besides listening is hunting through vintage albums looking for something in particular
Well as someone who just hit 50 I don't smoke..don't drink...not into cars or sports. We all have an addiction. The way I see this is an addiction to art. To me vinyl is the canvas and the actual sound is pressed in it and slipped in a painting called the jacket. My kids like it so one day it will be theirs.
when music streaming costs $50 to $100 a month in 10 years time you will be glad you kept your vinyl and cds.
I bought both my daughters a record player and stereo set, I give them records regularly. I feel like I have them hooked and that’s where my collection will go when I’m gone. Currently have 3400 in my collection, I hope that’s not overwhelming.
So very true. Moving vinyl is one thing, moving over 1000 78’s is another. Did it without one being damaged. I used plastic containers, old towels, bubble wrap, brought a bag of old tee-shirts to pack them in the containers. It made the ride in my pickup as easy as I possibly could. They were in the “Decca” jackets (Albums) which helped tremendously. It was quite a job. Took two trips to complete the job.
I collect books and for books goes that a book is worth what one is willing to pay for it. Same goes for records. And houses for that matter.
Storage is definitely a concern when it comes to vinyl collecting. I’ve only been collecting for about two years now. My collection started out with just a couple of records, then I needed a milk crate sized record box, I now have a two shelf turntable Stand that is just about full. Digital certainly does not take up as much space but it’s not nearly as fun!
Come back in 40 years when you have an extra room.
STORAGE: Some years back I went to a firm where I live which produces anything in acrylic. I ordered 30 clear, thick walled acrylic boxes each measured to room 10 albums. The top sides all have a round hole for my forefinger so that I can pull the particular box out of my shelf and slide out the album I want to play. These boxes make sure that my albums are sitting straight on my shelf and when moving to a new locations my record collection is easily stacked (box on box) without fearing ring wear.
I tend to mainly buy new releases so that my collection isn't over saturated with "classics".
First LPs I loved were when I did not have any. Other's systems and LPs at college in early-mid 70s LOL. Those titles became my desert island discs essentially and I went on from there. Actually I want more media LP, CD and still buy some, but I have no more room and want to give away about 175 of the LPs. another story.
My attention is taken up on PC watching TH-cam, web, editing and organizing my photography.
My attention span is lower, and is harder to relax in order to listen, too!
I need a better apt. with less background noise (even with headphone use) and some more space, than this little NYC place to really be able to enjoy listening.
That is a very big challenge for this retiree!
you are so correct on the principle of only buying stuff that you truly like. About a hundred years ago when i was in my teens, i would buy anything that was labelled "cool" with my peers, or music press. As i became older and maybe wiser, i realised that about 70% of my collection i couldnt stand. Now im in my sixties,i just buy what resonates with me, and screw it if its "uncool" music. i would now sooner have a collection of 30 or 40 items that i love , than an unwanted collection, taking up space and never played.
A record has two prices. What it's worth and what people are willing to pay for it.
A great test is to take the same record some dude is selling at a record fair or shop, tell them you're selling, get ready for a LETDOWN and then ask WHY is he marking 100% on it at his store LOL. This starts a very nice conversation that teaches you a thing or two about the "value" of a collection. I own 47 copies of the same album, so i understand collectors!!! haha GREAT VIDEO MAN!
I absolutely agree with just buying what YOU like, not what some random person on the internet tells you to buy, haha. Something else that "they" don't tell you is that vinyl can contain exclusive tracks that were never released any other way. I enjoy lots of types of music, but I absolutely love Italian eurobeat. I have over 1,000 eurobeat 12" singles from the 80s, 90s and 2000s. My eurobeat collection has essentially become a reference library because hundreds of eurobeat records contain exclusive tracks, which makes it all the more special to listen to these songs and mixes on vinyl. Some of my records get more play than others, but I am a DJ as well. As I said, I enjoy lots of types of other music, but I mostly choose not to buy other genres (classic rock, techno, house, etc) because those are rabbit holes that I don't want to go down. Plus I am already maxed out on space for my eurobeat records and those are the records that I truly love the most. Focus on the music that you truly love!
It's always funny to watch some of the vinyl community channels " discover " Jazz or Country or R&B & you can tell their heart really isn't into it but they feel obligated to show their diversity. It's not necessary & probably costs them subscribers & certainly can cause them to lose credibility.
I listened to a record today i haven't played in 10 years!
Recently I was at a record store and saw someone brought in his entire records collection. there were 3 large storage bins filled with albums. Clerks at the store didn't know how to price those records and called the owner in. The owner comes in, digs through the entire collection and offers the owner $140, the owner tried to get more and the store owner increased the offer by $10. The entire collections of 500-600 LPs in great condition for $150. I felt so bad for the guy... This tells you that you will get close to nothing when you will be selling your collection.
It's work, but selling individual will always net more profit then selling in bulk - especially to a reseller
As someone who has sold to a store owner, that seems just too low.
@@RogerYng Store owner kept telling the collector that all his records were not original presses, but later reissues. Don't know if that was really the case or just an excuse to lower the price. I'd imagine that if you collect for a while you'd have a mix of original presses and later issues.
Ya can't sell your collection to a dealer ..why would you?
I'm 63 and I own "only" 300 vinyl LP's - and this is why (envy alert!!!!): From when I was 24 till I was 51 I worked at the the record library of Danish Radio Corporation (the biggest record collection in northern Europe). My job was to buy whatever albums I felt we needed in the collection and then separate and type in all the metadata from the covers into the database, ie. if a broadcaster needed Walk On The Wild Side for solo kazoo - he could make such a search.
In this job I had the opportunity to be hooked on songs and albums, have it spinning on my office turntable sometimes for an entire week and sometimes in the end realising that it was fluff. Therefore I rarely bought any albums - I just brought them back home with me. WHEN I WAS FIRED due to layoffs I knew which albums I couldn't live without and so I bought what roughly amounts to the above 300 (adding to the few albums from my teens).
So basically all albums in my collection are gems for me - some artists/bands represented I have complete, others just selectively. When I get too old to rock and roll I have decided to sell my collection to my local 2nd hand vinyl shop. With my knowledge we will settle somewhere betweeen a lowball and a fair price. I wish you all well out there!
All great advice. Last year I sold about 400 of my albums -- ones I love -- and even though I probably could have made more money on the collection -- I was happy to get them to a record store knowing many people would enjoy finding them. Do I miss any of those albums? No! I still have many more I plan on selling, and have almost everything on CD or already transferred the LPs to CDR years ago. I enjoyed finding them, I enjoyed having them, I enjoyed listening to them, and now I enjoy getting them to new homes! When I'm done I will probably keep about 200 albums that mean something important to me -- but I doubt I'll miss the thousands I got rid of at all. And it's so nice not having all my shelves and boxes taking up space with records that haven't been looked at in decades!
Hey Frank, this really got me to thinking. I’m kind of proud of myself, I’m 65 and according to Discogs I have 446 entries. I would say 400 of them are probably vinyl albums. I think I’ve done a good job of just keeping it to what I like what I will listen to and not just having to have everything…the fear of missing out if you will.
I definitely keep it to what I like.
What I hate is when some of the music I like has always been pressed in low numbers, & there are people who think they have to have literally every pressing, color variant (if applicable) that exists...basically every version of an album. & for the rest of us, if those people will even part with a copy, it's so ridiculous it's not worth the price.
& some people even buy as many copies of limited pressings just to turn around & resell them for 10x more.
I'm seeing LPs that I just bought that are on Discogs for $50+ right now, & they're selling, because the buyers
aren't aware you can still buy the LP for $12 from the label.
I absolutely cannot stand people like that.
Fomo is for those who have no will power , I'm just after vinyl that appeals to me, not even full discographies of artists, coz even the best artists had duff albums.
Just vinyl that I feel that I can play all the way through, no dark side, no wall, no weak tracks, all killer no filler!
I only get a full discography from a band/artist that I really like, which aren't many.
I did buy an extra copy of an LP that the band reissued because the original was selling for over $100 at the time & they didn't like that. Now they're both going for $300+ easily. But I decided I don't need two copies, so I sold the reissue to a friend.
I could have just posted it on Discogs for a couple hundred & sold it within a few hours at most, but I knew he'd truly appreciate having a copy. & he does...just recently he bought me a few LPs to thank me for it (3 or 4 years later lol) for letting him have it for basically what I paid for it.
Very insightful , I think all us old dudes are trying to chase the happiness we had in the 80s. How great the 70s 80s music was.
Hi Frank,
Here is my take on collecting. In addition to a very large DVD & Blu-Ray collection, I have a lot of music on CD's & records. I enjoy listening to my CD's right now. My record collection is for when I retire so I can relive the good ol' days before CD's came along when I was buying records. Most of my records were destroyed in a flood so when I buy records, I'm rebuilding my collection with what I had but with upgraded pressings. When I leave this world my family will go shopping through my collection. After they are done, my friends will go shopping. Whatever is left, My DVD/Blu-Ray collection will go to a senior retirement home. My records & CD's will go to a facility that takes care of handicapped individuals. My collection has a very bright future beyond me & I love that feeling! Bill (From Mt. Holly, NJ)
The senior retirement home and the facility that takes care of handicapped individuals couldn't care less about those collections, unless they have thrift stores where they can sell them.
@@agomodern When they get my donations, they will either enjoy them or sell them. Either way is OK by me because it helped them. My sister will know which retirement home & facility for the handicapped will benefit most.
@@BILLONEE Wasn't sure you were donating them for them to watch or to sell. lol.
I disagree with the comment about acquiring albums as an empty experience. Maybe its that I don't tend to forget what I have added to my collection, especially if the search for it was difficult or time consuming. Any of the harder to acquire albums are even more solidified in my memory, and makes it even more fulfilling to know that I managed to add it to my collection. But, even the common and mundane albums in my collection have memories associated with them. Collecting anything is more than just simply owning a bunch of stuff. Just like most things in life... most of the enjoyment comes from the journey, not the destination.
Frank, you’re spot on. My collection only has value to me, classic rock for nostalgia, jazz and blues to explore.
I started as a kid in 66 and the collecting market has become insane!! Things are declining here where I live..new vinyl has changed the game.. I remember 3/1$ LPs!! Love the music is the key!
Great video. This topic is so fitting for me at the moment. I just recently have had 3 separate bad experiences trying to sell some of my records to record stores. You see some of these store owners on TH-cam saying there is no money in owning a store, they do it “because they just love music”, yeah, BS!!!!!! I purchased a very nice Monarch pressing of LZ II for $40 at this one store. About a month later I went back to the same store to try and sell it back to him as I was able to get an RL SS for my birthday. The store owner didn’t even want it. Said it wasn’t worth anything. WTH? A similar situation at another store. I have a great copy of a 1st US pressing of the debut album of Black Sabbath. This store only offered me $3 for it. That is easily a $30-$50 record. I don’t get it. I all for businesses making money, but They are just taking advantage of us collectors.
I will also agree that selling them online, eBay, discogs, ect…. Is a total pain. So I am now at the point, that I don’t think I will be selling any of them anymore. It is not worth it. So like your one viewer said, buy only the records you really want and that you know you will enjoy for a long time to come.
Yep, exactly. You're much better off selling them yourself. Yeah, it can be a pain and it takes some work, but at least you're not ripping yourself off & will get the maximum amount of money.
@@R3TR0R4V3 you are right. I need to be better at that…. Thanks. Have a great Sunday
Frank, you did a great job choosing these comments, they were all excellent and I think any record collector can relate to them.
The bubble is about to crash . For one new records are way to expensive as no record should cost more than $30 as a record is essentially a hockey puck worth of plastic thats no more than .50 cents in material. People are going to simply stop buying them such as me as I'm not paying $40-$50 for a new release .
For example: I happened to be a contractor , as a 12 foot piece of "Vinyl "siding costs around $8-$10 a piece , now please explain as to why a record cost $40??? I've been thrifting for CD's lately as they're abundant and to be honest , CD's simply sound better . If CD's came in a 10x10 sleeve so you could see the artwork they'd take over vinyl again.
78s? whats next? cylinders???
Baseball cards have the same story...
As I've gotten older I have realized just how unimportant having a house full of records really is. There is no way I need all of this clutter so I've embarked on a slow but sure sell off. Because of the sheer number of records I have it will be a lifetime project. As I have been finding out it really is a chore to get top dollar for a collectible record. I don't care what it sold for on Ebay in the past it does not necessarily indicate what I will realize for the same record. How many times have I researched a record on Popsike to see it sold for a ton of money in the past only to find I can't get anywhere near that amount. It happens all the time. There are many record sellers who are convinced the "vinyl is back" frenzy has peaked and will start a slow but sure decline. The bubble has burst.
If a rare vinyl sells for a ton of money it's usually in a pristine condition what's the condition of yours?
@@gmantramp404 A lot of my records I wouldn't sell because I think the value is higher than what they currently sell for.
So true with regards to price. Discogs like eBay is what people actually pay vs what they ideally cost. I prefer the local store anyway - yeah they dont pay Discogs 'prices' but it's decent, quick and a better rate if you trade in for more records. I don't agree with the emptiness of collecting though- I don't keep records I don't like or bad pressings. I love randomly choosing records from my collection too and kicking back. I love the process too and the routine. If you feel empty after buying records maybe that says something more about you'd your life? Maybe go fulfil it elsewhere? Don't buy on credit though- that's my advice for this hobby.
I actually had the opposite of your 'Grail' story. When I first started re-collecting, I wished I could find some early U2 albums, specifically Unforgettable Fire. Well, I found it in a rummage store, along with a copy of Genesis:Trick of the Tail. I figured I'd listen to U2 for hundreds of plays and once in a while I'd listen to Genesis. Instead, after 10 yrs from then till now, I've listened to Genesis hundreds of times while U2 sits on my shelf for nine months at a time, and I often play one side only, usually the opposite of the one I heard the last time. I guess tastes change from when you're a teenager, sometimes more than you realize.😀
This applies to all sorts of collectibles. There has to be someone who is willing to pay what you are charging. I always price stuff to sell quickly on EBay and that means selling for about half what things are supposedly worth.
Collecting records is smart. How smart? That all depends on what records you collect. Rare records with limited number of pressings will continue to appreciate in value. Collecting common records that are pressed in quantities of over and above hundreds of thousands lose their secondary market value as soon as they leave the record store. What they don’t tell you is it’s all about what records you collect (pressing, condition, genre and accessibility) that determine your collections future “realistic” value. That only applies to those who want to collect records as an investment as well as a hobby. To those who are in it just for the fun and the music more power to you, simply enjoy your records.
Two things I tell my customers…1. Do not collect records, rather build a listening library. 2. Buy budget and occasionally treat yourself to a pricy record. Adam
The word "worth" suggests there's some kind of investment mindset going on. Records are as good an "investment" as an automobile. The point about attempting to fill a spiritual hole is completely valid. Acquiring a "grail" gives you a high, but its short lived. I also find there's a type of person out there who buys collectable records for the sole purpose of gaining bragging rights. For me I find the hunt is a lot more fun than the capture.
For me music is music, I don't care about the format, If digital is the most convenient and least expensive so be it. I no longer have any physical media I cleaned up my life, I use to collect a lot of stuff but at middle age I chose to be free from being attached to physical things.
I can tell what will happen with your collection. My uncle had a gigantic collection of vinyl, several thousands of recrods. He died in 2007, he was 57 years old. His collection got picked apart by people picking their favorites for a mediocre price. The rest was sold of in mass for cheap. Everything is gone and nobody really cared. His oldest son was a music lover but here's the thing, he was a music lover NOT a hoarder. All that vinyl was really impractical, he has everything (and more) digitally. To him it's about the music, not the hoarding. Most of you people are about collecting and less about loving music. If you think that's not true....digital is way more convenient and accessible and that's what people who love music tend to want.
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I’ve talked about this many times on my channel about record store day, and how it operates basically on FOMO! I really hate that, and it really forces sales that really they didn’t earn! I totally agree with by only the artists and only the things that you really want and love! Moving is hell when you have lots of records just to have a lot of records sake! I have widowed my collection down to probably 1400 or so, and I can live with that! But all it takes is one move and it teaches you the lesson through both your head and your back! Great video, Frank
Hey Frank….In the video, over your left shoulder, what is the Accept box set?
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That is the Live Blind Rage box that came out 5 or 6 years ago.
Thanks Frank. Might have to look into that. I’ve got the red Blind Rage cd box, very cool. Love The Rise Of Chaos box too, maybe my fave album of theirs….yes I know, sacrilege lol…never been a fan of Udo’s voice…..
Oh yeah and something they never tell you: your gear is *never ever* good enough according to audiophiles.
I mean, I own a SL-1200G with an SME V tonearm and AT-ART9XI cartridge (about 9~10k in total) and I still come across audiophiles from time to time who turn their nose up, like: "it's just a souped up DJ turntable"
I'm gonna have to disagree about the WORTH factor in two ways. 1) you will have to pry my Beatles Numbered White Album from my dead hands. How much did I pay for it? ZERO dollars. It was passed down from my Aunt that bought it when she was in college brand new. Now let's go to the 2) factor. That same album will be passed down to my daughter that is 23, and also a Record collector. I have expensive records in my collection and I have records that I bought for a dollar in my collection. I enjoy and play most of them. I think the biggest fun in collecting is the find itself. Every record I own is attached to either a childhood or adult memory. So I guess when I'm really old and have dementia at least my records will give me some entertainment. 😂
Greetings from Costa Rica! I am a Christian Rock collector, so my spectrum is not wide. However, I own like 1000 cds and 300 vinyls. It isn't that big but as you said it is sizeable. Here is the question, how many hours a day do you listen to music? Do you isolate from your family when you do? I live in one floor apartment. I listen to my records when I am getting ready for work or when I am doing chores. It is hard for me just to sit down and listen to music. I have to be doing something else, is that weird? I have tried to stop buying but I simply can´t. Love your channel. I am an English teacher here and btw my favorite band is Stryper