Should You Collect Your Games “Complete in Box”? - Retro Bird
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.พ. 2022
- When it comes to collecting, one of the biggest questions that collectors have to ask themselves is if it's worth it to collect games CIB, or "Complete in Box". I discuss the positives and negatives of collecting your games complete under a variety of the different circumstances that play a factor.
Should You Collect Your Games “Complete in Box”? - Retro Bird / Is it Worth it To Collect Games CIB? / Should You Collect the Case and Manual for Games?
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Games played: Ristar (0:00), NBA Hangtime (0:10), Spin Master (0:25), Sunset Riders (1:09), Klonoa 2 (2:05)
I appreciate the Klonoa 2 gameplay. It's a very underrated game.
Good call on this sometimes I gotta turn into the FBI and try to find out what game it is
@@Daniel-pm6nl haha I know right. I wish more youtubers would do this.
@@TenOfZero1 I agree
Thank you for thinking ahead, I was going to ask for one of the games featured on this video.
Man, that is a beautiful arcade controller. Full disclosure, I have zero interest in collecting retro games. Your videos just have the perfect balance of nostalgia and humor that I'll watch whatever you're talking about just for the entertainment.
yep. i'm fine with emulation. though PS2 (not retro) can be a bit tricky. I like to not only conserve space but have it all in one or two spots.
Glad to hear that and thank you! I try to make my videos so that they'll appeal to anyone interested in video games. Thank you for the compliment on the arcade stick too. It was made by Analogue Interactive years ago before they started making all their FPGA consoles.
Same here, I'm all emulation but watch a ton of retro collecting channels.
Yeah, retro games are super pricy. I prefer to buy them digitally if ever. I recently got Link's Awakening DX because my old 3DS died with the game on it. I had to start over from scratch with my digital 3DS game collection.
@@nathanlamont9920 Do you really think the Ps2 is harder to emulate than Saturn or even Ps3? I’ve never really run up against barriers with that system.
What never ceases to shock me is the staggeringly high number of loose sega genesis carts out there. What kind of monster would have thrown away those cases?
Yeah, kind of sad to think about right?
I own a decent handful of Genesis games, and I think I only ever had one with the case. It's all loose carts for that console. Unfortunately I was a kid when I got the console, and now I have no idea where that case is. It hurts...
CIB is definitely optimal and with the box is necessary for disc based games. But if missing the manual means saving $30 so be it.
Yeah unfortunately I have no symphony of the night manual. Got it locally for $40 June 2020 just missing the front art/manual. And I really don't feel like spending 40 just to have that manual lol
For cartridge games, I like to have one CIB from each console and the rest loose. Having one let's me remember what CIB was like for that console without breaking the bank.
i feel you bro. got a few NES cib's. love them the most and its the biggest generation for me! so many first games of a franchise!!!
and one each of SNES (Zelda: LTTP), N64 (Mario Party) GameCube (Smash Bros. Melee)... from the "Wii" on only sealed ;)
@@Lah-Criz What? I get the cartridges, but why on earth would someone throw away the boxes of disc-based games?
@@PhoenIXPhantasies I meant because of the financial side of it. everything before wii i can't afford sealed
@@Lah-Criz Ah, I see. So you buy them, keep them sealed and then download the game or? I never really get the sealed collectors. I have a few. Some went in my backlog and then shot up in price and now I'm scared to open them for instance. But apart from that I want to be able to play them.
I'm here for the bread bag clip collection.
I don't consider a game complete unless Timmy wrote his name on it.
To me, it depends on the console I am collecting.
For example, if I collect Gamecube games, then I want them to be CIB, but if I collect SNES games, then it would be just loose copies.
Yeah, there really needs to be a case for disc games.
@@Hauntaku Agreed. Disc based games, I need CIB.
Cartridge, I can settle for the game itself.
I mean... Who loses their disc based box??
I'm personally Cib as much as possible when it comes to disc based games. I love reading the manuals and all of the fun inserts inside for expired contest entries or warranties. One thing I think that was forgotten to be mentioned is personally I like games cib because it has that nice weight to them. Most modern games that don't include instruction manuals are disappointing when the case feels light as a feather.
Agreed. Modern game cases feel really flimsy and fragile. Older game cases just felt a lot heftier. It was especially bad on consoles like the Wii U that just felt paper thin. It's extremely easy for them to get damaged and punctured if you're not careful because of how thin they were.
I miss the manuals and amazing box art that retro games offered. Gaming just isn't the same in the modern age.
Would my suggestion of filling your games with old newspaper to add more weight resonate with anybody?
I do agree with the weight thing everytime I pick up a GameCube game missing it’s manual I do a double take
A guy on Etsy can make reproduction manuals for a lot of games on many different consoles, as long as the scans are available online or if he has it in his personal collection. It's a nice alternative to "complete" a game that is very pricey, and he does great work! 👍. It will cost anywhere from $25 - $40 depending on how big the manual is.
That Mean Girls disc has gotten some mileage. Glad to see it show up. :)
Wow! This video had the the trifecta. Rocket Knight, Mean Girls, and Bananas!!! Oh and Bread bag clips...That's almost too much for me. I gotta sit down for a minute.
I like doing CIB when it comes to disc based games. If I receive a CIB disc based game, it's usually in very good condition.
Respect for those who kept it CIB all these years
I've found that to be the case too.
@@RetroBirdGaming Ahh? The “case”? 😎👉👉
Retro Bird is the man!
Definitely like collecting CIB!
Complete in Box always for me. Love the art, love the manuals, the cases look great on the shelf, it’s how they were back then. More expensive yes but makes me more selective in what I get. 👍
Gameboy games are super hard to find in box and when I do find them, they're often overpriced!
I typically buy my cartridges loose and my disc-based games CIB. The manual is nice to have, but not a dealbreaker if it isn't there, as long as the original artwork is there. The game has to look nice on my shelf. I wouldn't buy loose Switch or DS games, though. Those cartridges are too small and the cases look so nice. On a side note, I would love to see what happens if you send in the Rocket Knight t-shirt order form.
I hate how many stores try to sell loose ds games. Who wants that you could sneeze and it would disappear
This is why I love collecting Sega Master System games. They come in clamshell style cases, so case and cart games are often available. Even when only carts are available, it is not too tricky to track down an empty case. If you do so and print a cover, you are set!
SMS is a totally underrated system, but ngl having the pause button on the console is a big pain haha
I just had to grab a manual the other day and look up what to do in my game. Without it I would be stuck , so manuals and instructions are vital
I buy everything CIB. I don’t care about prices as long as they’re fair and don’t exceed €150 for a retro game. Nothing loose in my collection (1,600 games) and it looks great. I can sleep very well at night.
I have a headache thinking about the 2 loose games in my collection.
@@Hauntaku you need to fix that as soon as possible. Take a second (or third or fourth) job.
@@CuCuz305 They are two GameBoy games and those two aren't considered rare, so it should be fairly easy to find boxes for them at a good-ish price. Luckily, I'm storing the games in my little plastic storage shelf with my cardboard box games (you're supposed to store the cardboard box games somewhere where there's less of a chance of dust and oxidization)
I do CIB for disc and Genesis.
Nofriendo is strictly carts, just like when I was a kid.
“Sometimes is just knowing that you have them”. @2:03. Exactly.
I use the manuals for my games. I agree: using a physical manual and a srategy guide with the game instead of hopping on the internet is a fun experience.
I’m a cib collector. I like having a box with artwork, much more presentable way to have a collection and of the course the game is protected
Protected from being played?
You're like a real life cartoon character, it's always so fun to watch you!
Retro Bird is like Scott The Woz but with less swearing.
For disc based it’s CIB all the way! And if I was rich the same would apply to cartridge games as well… 😏
Edit: except for the tiny cartridges like DS/3DS/switch, those are a must to have CIB
“It’s like getting mooned through a window”!!! Had me rolling dude.
I try collect my sega genesis and GameCube games with their original cases and manuals. The games because it was the way they were intended to be played. The cases and manuals because they are BEAUTIFUL, old, (mostly from Japan 🇯🇵) and from my childhood era + they house the game itself. Great episode dude!
Glad you liked the video! Thanks :)
Ok, “to CIB or not to CIB” is an excellent pun
I'm relieved to know you take the proper steps to protect your DVD of Mean Girls!
The Holy Grail: Sparkster frisbee, T-shirt, hat and button.
Collect all 4 and you’ll impress Retro Bird with your good taste forever!
Yeah, talk about a treasure trove of goodness.
5:43-6:07 is genuinely brilliant writing.
Seems like i always want cib but cost more then cartridge only
I gravitate towards CIB since I like looking through the manuals and having the artwork (as well as a protective case). I will sometimes buy loose discs or cartridges if I find a deal. However, if I want something enough to buy it full price on eBay, then I want CIB.
listening to this while cataloging my own humble collection on a day off while sipping coffee is just TOPS! Cheers, new fan of this channel!
Welcome aboard!
As long it comes with the game and the original case/box I’m fine. I don’t mind missing the manual
This is how I handle my collection:
- NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, GBA: loose
- Master System, Genesis, DS, 3DS, disc systems with DVD or BluRay case: at least the box and game; manual optional.
- Disc systems with jewel case: CIB
This pretty much matches what I do as well.
Love your taste in action plat form games Bird. Nice to see some of the lesser known titles getting some shine.
I will always say that it depends on the game! Metal Gear Solid PS1’s instruction manual was so beefy and complimented the game so well. And like you said, some of the Saturn and ps1 longbox manuals, while not in color, are packed with so much cool info.
I don't mind if the instruction booklet is gone, but it needs the case/box.
If it's a cart, then I need the manual/map. If it's a disc, then I need the case. If I can get them all though, then defintely that.
Alright, call me crazy, but my entire game collection is complete: about 2,800 games total EXCEPT the eight NES games that I have, which are cart and manual in custom Game Cases clamshells (I have the box, cart sleeve and styrofoam - but no baggie - for Sky Shark stowed away). Heck, I’ll see my crazy and raise myself an insane: all my Master System (87) and Genesis(109) cases still have their hang tabs!!!! Atari VCS? All 38 games in their cardboard boxes.
Maybe it’s the OCD in me, but even when I was a kid, I insisted on keeping my games and consoles in their boxes when I wasn’t playing them.
@@OriginalMasters Nah, just meticulous over 20+ years of collecting - if I were to do it today, I have to agree that it would be insanely expensive… I mean I still do, but at least it’s one here, one there every once in a while. It also used to be a lot easier to buy games in parts (game, manual/inserts, cases/artwork) and often for less than buying a complete copy.
@@jcchaconjr Yeah, complete in box is best! I kept good care of half of the games I had as a kid. My siblings didn't care though, so most of those games stopped working. The ones I played were the ones that still worked.
Got a Chiquita ad before the video started - how fitting :-D Cheers!
I just clicked on the video not caring much about the topic, but you have a very unique sense of humour. I laughed a bunch of times while watching this! 🤣 thank you and keep it up!
man i just love your vids... these speak to me on a whole other level haha. i've been a CIB only collector... for 20 years. I made 2 exceptions: original Gameboy and Game Gear. but even GBA and NES/SNES it was CIB only. this actually kept me from diving deep into the SNES library for those 20 years... because i could never afford collecting CIB SNES... so about a year ago i decided to make another exception... i now collect SNES carts.
if the artwork is really good or if the game is really great, going for the box is a plus. the more complete the better as I wanna fill out and send in the warranty card...
Glad to see the famous BBCC (Bread Bag Clip Collection) making a cameo. Always good to see a valued cast member return lol. Great video as always haha
I was originally a CIB only type of collector but the prices of the more expensive genesis games I wanted caused me to go cart only, and I buy custom game cases. They are super nice and I save big money. 👍
For Cartridges I don't feel half as much need for complete but for the CD games I feel differently.
Love this content
Great stuff!
😄!! Rewatching a few of your older vids and must've missed it a ways back. "What's this? It's like getting mooned through a window." That's golden Retrobird. Golden. 😆
Love your videos man just discovered your channel a few days ago and that's all I've been playing so far. Keep it up!
Glad to hear it! Welcome to the channel :)
I have always tried to get the game & manual at least. There are a few manuals out there that wow in price & scarcity! Awesome vid!
😃 been waiting for this
On one hand, It's just packaging. A box intended to protect a product inside and make the the item identifiable on a store shelf (no different to food packaging). On the other hand, it's art, gaming history, makes the product complete and has more value than your pets. Let's be honest, if you were a doctor and had a patient that was collecting loose VHS tapes, you would be prescribing heavy medication for that kind of crazy.
9:31.. this was pretty much me on the car ride home after every new game purchase or game rental.
When I shop for cartridges, I always do lose. Even if the CIB complete in box price is only $10 more. I'm primarily collecting for the DS and 3DS at the moment. Everything goes straight into my carrying case regardless if I have a box or not.
For the Professor Layton series I did do CIB, because for some of the games, the price difference was only like $5. It was a novelty opening the cases up and reading through the manuals. Brought me back to my elementary days. (Or bathroom trips pre smart phones.)
But the novelty wore off pretty quick. It's just so much easier to have everything in 1 case. And the manuals mostly just have instructions on how to play with very few extra character analysis tidbits.
I feel bad because I'm genuinely considering just throwing them all away because they're just taking up space, but I know some people are looking for cases. I'm just too lazy to set anything up on eBay so on the TV stand they stay, for the moment
I guess I see the appeal of CIB, but with games largely not even coming with manuals anymore, I don't know why CIB is make or break for some people. For me, yeah, the box art may be pretty to look at, but I can just Google the image.
For my GameCube and Wii games, I prefer having a case just to protect the discs.
I definitely don't need the manual, but I NEED the case
Love your channel bro!!
Thank you Erick!
I got a Zelda case for my Switch Lite that came with two tiny plastic cases that hold up to 4 Switch games each. They fit into slots in the inside of the Zelda case too. The Switch Lite lays on top of them. That's a sweet way to keep all your Switch stuff together if you just have the handheld and a small collection of games.
That was my reaction to the Time Crisis II manual too. ;)
I can’t believe this channel isn’t bigger every time I watch a video I think this channel must have 100k subs
Thank you for that. I just gotta be patient and appreciate all the wonderful folks like yourself who are already here :)
Brilliant video dude!! I must admit if I get a game that’s missing a manual I do shed a tear 😢 also a cracked Dreamcast case is abit upsetting 🤬
i love this guy !
7:37 Having your retro games near a Mean Girls DVD is never OK
I've never thought about this before, but I think the older the console is, the more I'm inclined to collect CIBs. But that might be the case purely because I was gifted many Nintendo, and Genesis CIBs that kicked off my collection. If that hadn't have happened, I probably wouldn't have ever thought about CIBs. Many of my friends/fam have never even considered it. Love your content!! Naners 4life!
I try my very best to get every game complete in box! I also make sure to grab any indie titles I want in physical form while they're still affordable. I have a small collection and only 2 games aren't in the box. The rest of my collection is mostly Nintendo Switch games, but I have a few DS and 3DS titles. One of my boxes is dented :( but the game is amazing!
Personally, I feel that a small collection is even more impressive than a large collection. I have to make sure my collection only has games I want to play and I don't let it get too large. Each game is important to me! Though, I had to remove a few of the nostalgic games because I don't play them enough.
If I had $1 for every time I read a description on eBay that said "CIB -- missing manual" ...
A cat that insults bananas, is a cat that would be written out of my will.
I love my Gameboy games, I have recently started getting the manuals for my loose games, which is fun but merely a hobby as it can get quite expensive. I completely agree with your last point, I have Kirby's Dreamland complete because it was. Childhood favourite game.
Keep up the awesome videos!
Love your humor 😁👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Awesome vid! Bread bag clip thing got me good. I'd love to know the context but still funny. They're mostly made of paper now so maybe they are rare? lmao
1:03 the Virtual Bird
I'm whatever's cheapest kind of collector so 98% percent of my cartridge collection is loose haha. There's a lot of japanese SNES and Saturn games on my collection too.
I still own both the consoles and boxes of my childhood's NES and N64. Along my dad's old CRT. The same one we used to play those videogames along my little brother. That's all the satisfaction my nostalgia craving needs you know what I mean?
Shout out to Eduardo Senior and Diego I love you both.
I do CIB for plastic game case consoles most of the time. But, the more expensive a game is, I do try to be more flexible
I think for me, getting a game CIB is a way to relive what it was like actually buying games in the heydays. Usually on the bus ride home or in my mom’s car I’d flip through and read the manuals so I was ready to go when I got home. That’s a big part for me, along with the action of putting the original cartridge or disc in the real system and playing the game in its original format. By no means is CIB necessary for me, but it just adds a little something to look at when I’m not actually playing. This also comes back to when we only had one console and one tv for the whole family to enjoy too.
Great video, funny as always.Once you start collecting C.I.B nothing else will do. I only collect for Gameboy/GBC so I can focus on that. Im supper picky so it's hard as the boxes are cardboard!! Not having the instructions keeps me up at night so I'm probably O.C.D! Its a shame that in a few years games will no longer have instructions or probably even a physical game to cherish? Just a console or hard drive with a list of games on it to show off thier collection on. I'm pleased I was a 70s kid. Yeah I'm old, old happy and poor...
Great topic! As for collecting CiB, I do when I can find a good deal on one. No so much because I'm picky about having everything (most of my Snes and Genesis games are just carts), but because I like the artwork, advertisements, etc. I thrifted a copy of the original SimCity for Windows quite a few years ago that was CiB (or close to it). It even included the catalog! It's like having a time capsule. It's just cool to have.
As a side note, I think something should be said for custom boxes. I recently started making custom boxes for some of my boxless games, and while it's time consuming, it's really rewarding when it finally comes together!
I usually get at the least the game & manual. Remember my legs falling asleep reading it on the toilet as a kid! 😂
For cardboard box games I place painters tape on the tabs so the lid slides out rather than yank the tabs
I see you retro bird with that CiB of maximo. I just bought clean copies of Maximo and Maximo v army of zin myself. Classic gems right there.
Nice! I'm still keepin' an eye out for the sequel myself.
I say to CIB for the games you love most!
That's a good strategy!
It depends though on my circumstances. If the games are based on the discs, I intend to have CIB. I even make some small notes on a single paper (wish list) that I need a manual or back insert or art front cover later on. Some of my GBA/DS games only have loose cartridges. But, again, I always look up the price to either leave them alone or save some money later on to get their original manuals/original art front covers before going into CIB.
Gotta watch that Mean girls DVD guy.
Cool vid, I'm all about CIB games when possible. Though I will buy a game loose if I know that I can complete it later of if the game is a gift from a friend. I got my copy of Sonic CD this way b/c it was left in the Sega CD I was given, I certainly wasn't going to give it back 😅. I also like my games protected by the case and oddly enough just knowing the manual is in there, plus the cases just look cooler displayed and sitting on my shelf. I haven't tried discussing a game manual at dinner though, but maybe I'll give it go 😂
Great video... bad games comment got me! LoL
This is a pretty good topic and one that I have a lot of experience. And I do feel what he's saying not all games do I try to get a complete inbox some you just can't some are just too difficult. But I know what he means some games that are really special to a person you want those complete. I try to always get the final fantasy games and complete in box if I can
I’ve gotten to the point where CIB (for me that means case, cover art, manual, and the game itself of course) is all I look at when I’m looking for a particular game. This has become increasingly difficult with how most retro game prices have skyrocketed in price in the last few years. Cartridge games are my exception; finding CIB SNES or N64 games is just not feasible. Heck, a few of my N64 carts are bootleg because of the ridiculous prices even a lot of loose carts go for.
I wish I’d bought more of my Gamecube collection over a decade ago with manuals in mind. I’ve been looking into finding replacements for Pokémon Colosseum and Chibi Robo, among others. I just can’t bring myself to pay the astronomical prices I see online for a freakin’ 20 page manual I’ll never even read just to scratch that CIB itch. It’s a tough life 😭
I sold/lost/donated(thanks mom) my childhood collection but once I got back into console games around 2013 ish I just kept them all complete in box out of habit. I'm glad I did.
Mooned through a window 7:32😂😂😂
The best solution I have found; is to buy the carts or digital retro games on current hardware, and then track down extensive book on the games. I have a Street Fighter, Zelda and Mario history book (ones with awesome artwork; including from manuals) and it saves space but gives me the nostalgic experience of looking at more info on a game I own in a physical form.
I am big on aesthetics. CIB or nothing at all. I like the way the games look on display in my game room. It reminds me of the days when I used to buy and rent games. It's an important part of the gaming ritual for me. We all have standards.
My two favorite games, Fallout and Fallout 2, came with spiral-bound manuals that the developers clearly put a lot of effort into. It was cool when that used to be common practice.
I'm generally happy with whatever I can get, though it definitely does factor into my decision whether or not to buy something, and I don't think I'd even consider buying a loose disc. I wonder if anyone has loose Pioneer LaserActive games.
Manuals seem to be less of an issue in Europe, since consoles like the PlayStation and Dreamcast typically had a separate cover sheet as well as the manual.
Yes!
I know right. Always excited to see him release another video. Congrats on first comment.😎
If I can CIB I will. If I find a rare or uncommon game in the wild, I'll get a repo case for the shelf.
I have over 12,000 games, and about 3,000 of those are loose. Of course I'd rather have them CIB, but the truth is, having games loose like that isn't a terrible or bad thing. If it can save you a lot of money, go for it. I have four rooms, and one of those is called my Nintendo Room. The names are just celebrations of console manufacturer's, and aren't indicative of what I actually have in each room. My other rooms are the XBOX Room, Sega Room and Atari Wall.
The Nintendo Room is where I store all of my loose games, however, even some in that room are CIB, such as my Neo Geo AES, Fairchild, and others. It really is up to the individual collector as to how they buy, store or display their games. Regardless, whatever you do, do so because YOU want to do it that way, and display your games, however you wish, with pride. After all, they are YOUR games!
Exactly! Personalize your collection!
Big collections are scary to me.
CIB all day! Great video as always 🍻
I like using custom cases or orginal CIB games, but only for the most important and nostalgic games. Otherwise my collection would take up too much space. I love collecting manuals as well. Some have great artwork and info on the games back stories.
CiB is ideal (save for the games that come in dreaded cardboard 🙄);
But sometimes (especially for loose cartridge games) getting them loose shaves off nearly 50% of the inflated price 😭
They're perfectly playable too.
I go for CIB, good condition, and black label copies, but i can't afford Nintendo cardboard. I would be there to have that Time Crisis 2 manual discussion over dinner :P
If we are talking games with nice posters, or with more complex instructions, or even a more dear to your heart title, yes CIB, especially if it is Genesis hardbox, as those are WAY easier to find CIB. other than that, if you can get the CIB on a good bid at or around the naked cart price, then jump on it. ALWAYS buy disc based games with at least the case and cover art, tracking them down separately is just as much a pain as finding card board boxes for N64/Snes... unless you don't mind using a generic DVD case and print the art yourself. or buy some from the aftermarket box company online,.. name escapes me, but they are quality if you have the $ to spare.
I love how Mean Girls keeps showing up.