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@Kings and Generals not gonna lie this video is confusing, no matter who wins in this battle my ancestors get massacred. But hey I just checked out your podcast and it looks awesome
Or fight like real men face to face like how the Romans conquered Europe infantry vs infantry not shooting arrows and run off like most of the stepp warriors fought.
Because they didn't escalate the walls on foot. You should already know that it takes more than an almost vertical path to separate a Mongol from his horse.
The Hungarians learned from their mistakes in the first invasions. 1. The recuritment of more knights, as their heavy armor can shurg off attacks from Mongolian horse archer. 2. Hiring and training crossbowmen, since it is easier for peasants to learn and yet it has the capability to kill the Mongol light cavarly. 3. Constructing more stone fortifications to delay and to force the Mongols to suffer losses in sieges. Contrary to popular belief, the Mongols rarely encountered well fortified cities. When they did, the Mongols suffered greatly at the hands of the defenders. For example, the Mongols repeatedly failed to push through the Song defense of Southern China due to a pair of stone fortesses. It is only when the Mongols recurited Muslim engineers to construct counter-weight trebuchets did they breached the Song defense. 4. Creating new baronies, so that local nobles have the resources and rights to establish local militias. This is a key strategy, as unlike the "civilized militaries," the Mongols sole source of supplies are from raiding outlaying villages in small parties. Destroyed enough of these parties, the Mongols would lose too many men and would lack the supplies to maintain the invasion.
@@peepooo8337 However, it did not mean the Mongols were powerless against knights. The Mongols fielded their own heavy cavalry, who have the blunt weapons capable of dealing with plate armor. In fact, the Mongols managed to defeat German knights years before events of thus video, by baiting them to chase the Mongol horse archers into ambushes set up by the Mongol heavy lancers. The Hungarians and later Polish learned from that mistake too and knew to reign in their knights from rash chasings. Instead, they use light cavalry to pursue enemies, as they could avoid Mongol heavy lancers.
@@peepooo8337 Again, there is a reason knights wear padded armor under their plate armor. It greatly soften shock weapons. Also, the shock from arrows will not harm the person, rather it will annoy them. Even when crossbow and firearms became common in the late 15th and early 16th century Europe, plate armored units were used as shock infantry for they could take on the fire power to an extent. Armored infantry fell out of favor due to cost effectiveness, while armored cavarly served well into the mid-19th century when all Western and Central European infantries fielded muskets. Even in far richer modern nations like the US, not all men get the best of body protection solely due to the sheer costs. If Mongol bows can simply go through plate armor, there would end the age of armores cavalry long before the 20th century.
Every1 acts like cavalry is so dominant,in the end that was the mongol weakness...only cavalry,with a proper mix of infantry and range u can control cavalry especially in european lands
What eastern europes problem was incomptent leaders,how many times u fall for fake retreat...when deployed correctly those units will run thru mongols force
When I visit my family in Poland I always go hiking in the carpathian mountains, it's cool knowing there where a bunch of mongols wandering around in the same area
Take your metal detector with you on your walks. Certain metals will survive the test of time and if you get really lucky you could discover the find of a lifetime. One of the biggest treasure hoards ever found was discovered by a guy who had just bought his detector a month before, and his farmer friend asked him to look for a hammer that he had lost in that farm field. Something like 3500 pieces of gold, silver, and bronze studded with jewels. Lucky bastard! lol
Ladislav lV (Hungarian: lV Kun László) was the most interesting member of the Árpád dynasty. He was half Cuman ( Hungarian: Kun) therefore he was much more lax and easy going than his predecessors, he loved (Cuman) women and wine, but apparently never touched his wife Isabella from the Kingdom of Naples. Once he was imprisoned by the nobility to have sex with Isabella, but he still refused, saying she's too frigid and lacks passion. 😅 He was excommunicated several times by the pope because of his lifestyle and friendship with the Cumans. He prompted Simon Kézai to write the history of the Hungarian people (Gesta Hungarorum) where the Huns are being shown as the ancestors of the Hungarians. Both Kézai and the king believed that the Hungarians, Huns and Cumans are basically the same people (Cumans, contrary to other minorities, quickly adopted the Hungarian language and are speaking Hungarian to this day). Ladislav saw his Cuman brethren as 'true Hungarians' their lifestyle as, pure as that of the old Hungarians in Árpád's days. According to Kézai, Árpád, And therefore Ladislav himself is the direct descendent of Attila, the capital Buda is named after Attila's brother Bleda (still Buda in Hungarian literature), Attila's wife Ildikó was Hungarian according to Kézai (while in reality she was a Gepid, but the name Ildikó as well as Attila are still very popular among Hungarians). Although seen as an intelligent, but good-for-nothing drunkard, Ladislav won most of his battles. He defeat Premysl Otakar who was considered to be a military genius at the time and seperated Austria from Bohemia and granting it to a minor swiss nobleman called Rudolf von Habsburg. 😏 He drove back the Mongols and was pitted against the Cumans by the church, defeated them in the battle of Hód lake, but was quick to velcome them back once things have settled. At the end of his reign he had his royal guard composed of only Mongols and Cumans. (he banished the Hungarian nobility and clergy from his court...long story) In the end it was his beloved Cumans who murdered him while he was having sex with his Cuman concubine Édua. (Édua's brother later took revange on the assassins ).
Yes, and Gesta Hungarorum's Hun origin is interesting, because a monk in the 13thcentury, went to east, and he found the rest of hungarians, who stayed in the Ural. They had a kind of a state, what is called Magna Hungaria by historians. But I guess they didn't know about 'Uralic languages' in the 13th century. The mongol invasions destroyed Magna Hungaria, those hungarians who survived, probably assimilated to bashkir people(Turkic people in Siberia) according to genetics. That's why bashkirs has Uralic admixture and they are one of the genetically closest modern population to 10th century hungarians.
@ Yes, but Im not a nationalist tho. I just wanted to point out that we could live toghether peacefuly without all the crap we get from the media in our days.
Hungary was somewhat lucky in this period. Throughout massive crises Hungary usually had very weak kings; Vladislaus II being an example, fucked up the Hungarian army and nobility pathing the way for Mohacs. Béla IV was a strong ruler, and if he wasn’t king at the time, and another weak ruler was in charge, I don’t think Hungary would’ve made it out of the 13th century. He’s got to be one of the greatest Hungarian rulers imo. Not many can take on the might of the mongols, lose and still maintain your prior territorial borders.
While there were several factors leading to the Mongol campaigns becoming less successful, the fact that Europeans had learned to fight the Mongols should not be underestimated.
Learning from mistakes is crucial for winning wars. The Polish did what Sun Tzu said: know your self and know your enemy and you shall win hundreds of battles.（ 知己知彼，百戰百勝）
Subutai also died, the mongols became a far less effective force, and the Europeans actually finally understood just how powerful the mongols were and took em more seriously
Would love to see mongol against the might of western Europe. I’m sure they like the Roman and other did against the Huns will kick them out of Europe.
Danzig wasn't in the HRE until the second partition of Poland in 1793. Was controlled by Polish nobility until 1308 the Teutonic order took it and lost it in 1466.
@@sdsd2e2321 I swear in every legitimate comment discussion, there has to appear this one immune-to-historical-facts butthurt nationalist idiot like you.
Gah, your videos are just so freaking good. Words fail me but your excellence seems to somehow get better and better and I have trouble telling everyone just how good your content is. You guys absoutely rule. Best history channel on TH-cam. Hands down!
Many would always group the Mongols as a single entity where they have a single political structure. But every time we learn how complex and fascinating Mongol history is thanks to you.
It is interesting that the Caucasoids, who were thought to be the master race, were dominated by Mongoloids or Asians. They are only white pigs. Now the Neanderthals were on a roll and are being crushed by the Eastern camp.
I subscribed to the podcast a while back and I LOVE every episode released.. I listened to the latest 2 episode on the Mongols this morning... Can't wait for the next.
In all fairness listening to Voices of the Past's reading of Güyük Khan's letter to Pope Innocent IV; I can really understand why Mongol Envoys kept getting killed.
Yeah. Kings and Generals uses a lot of images from that show and other movies. In the early Mongol series, they use pictures from the Russian Mongol movie about Genghis Khan for Temuljin and Jamukha. In the Crusader episodes they used images from Kingdom of Heaven as well. It's better than using an auto generated Total War/Paradox Game face, or some sort of flag, I guess.
Bizantine manual for invasions: 1.If you have chances: fight. 2.If you don't: pay tribute. 3.If they still invade you: "here, marry this princes. I have some to spare". 4.If even that doesn't work: get destroyed early, but then change dinasty, get reformed and regain your loses.
It’s fascinating that the Mongols nearly conquered the entire known world, but the medieval Europeans may not have known the extent or know where and what Asia is without maps (until Polo came about...)
A hungarian priest was sent to the east to look for the roots of hungarians and that's how he bumped into the mongols, so he went back to hungary to warn the hungarian king. Just about 2 years before the Hord arrived.
@Batman First of all we don't believe in the existence of "The Devil", Christianity's favorite patsy.., second: we were just better at what everybody was doing.
Hungary and Poland always in the same boat, moved together with fights and battles and fails and successes... and you wondering why we are known as twins, dwe bratanki, két testvér? We saved the asses of westerners several times just because we was there on the way of paganic eastern empires! God bless our eternal union and brotherhood!!!
A pleasure to watch as usual, lovely animations and explanations, and a pleasure to play, we have fought in miniatures a few Bela IV's battles, Mongol and Hungarian armies are truly superb, even in 15mm!
Hernando Malinche the mongols by then had seen much of the world. Europe was boggy, cold & full of warring kingdoms. The mongols probably weren’t to impressed by it. China, India & the Middleast were probably far more exotic.
Eastern europe can't do much to defend themselves.This is why they were always invaded by every empire. It was always just some land of s3xy women with long legs and nothing else.
@@fyfyi6053 We defended the eastern wall of Europe while the western kingdoms grew turnips and had jousting matches. Never anything but contempt from the “superior” West. You would all be praying to a different god now...
My Grandmother was born around 1883, in Delatyn, Ukraine area. Her family where a mix of Polish, Hungarian & Swedish catholics. She arrived as a arranged marriage bride in Ohio in 1899. Her stories of her Polish oral history included tales of the Mongols invaded Poland!
Fun but little known fact, that city that Batu founded and named Sarai would eventually be renamed Volgograd which played an integral part in one of the biggest wars we've known.
John Burton i can see deep racism and hatreds toward to other races from you. Is that because youre a son of a innocent completely perfect nation by a chance?? That shit dont exist gtfo kido
I have to thank you for the quality of videos that you produce. They answer a lot of my questions. Will you have any episodes to cover the following mongol campaigns? Mongol Conquest of the Korean Penisula Mongol invasion of Burma Thank you for your time.
I feel a litteral satisfaction once I see notification from Kings n Generals.. Especially if it is Ottoman or Mongol series.. jesus keep up good work guys :D
15:12 There's a mistake in the video. Sáros and Szepés should be flipped, for Sáros is in the east and Szepés (the largest castle in Central Europe) is in the west.
Great video ! Let me show something: Mongolian invasions of Hungary: 1241: victory (battle of mohi) 1285: not victory (draw) 1345: defeat --->TOTAL HUNGARIAN VICTORY ! In 1345 King Louis the Great sent baron Andrew Lackfi to invade the lands of the Golden Horde in retaliation for the Tatars' earlier plundering raids against Transylvania. On the days 2-5 february 1345 the hungarian army crushed the huge tatar army. TOTALLY ! It was the three days long battle,one of the biggest battle of middle ages. Thereafter the Golden Horde's control of the lands between the Eastern Carpathians and the Black Sea weakened. So the Hungarian Kingdom became great power. Please make a video about these events ! THX from Hungary !! Amazing work again !
I am glad finally this series of video came out to literally document the history of Mongol invasion. "Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar", but not in 95% of China population(the biggest ethnic group, Han). Long time Chinese were wronged to be Mongolian. However, same as what happened in Europe in 13th century, China(the Song Dynasty) was invaded by Mongol and was conquered, and people in Song Dynasty were officially treated to be the lowest class of the Mongol Empire. Main body of Chinese people were the exact victims of Mongol invasion. In Chinese Han ethnic group's tale, evil daemon comes from the north. In Korean tale, evil daemon comes from the west. In Europe tale, evil daemon might come from the east. All are telling the same thing.That was a miserable, horrible time. My family book told me that my ancestor and his brother were killed by Mongolian with four limbs cut. People can tell Chinese Han people are quite different from those north people who liked to invade other countries. Chinese people were lived on agriculture, raising plants, and lacking of horses and oxen. Chinese people used cities to defend themselves, because of lacking of horses, they did not have capability to move the army to Europe. By face appearance, Chinese Han people are more similar to Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese.
The original plan of Batu Khan and Subutai was exactly "keep conquering until see the Ocean", so if Ogedai Khan didn't die at that time, Batu and Subutai wouldn't stop invasion. In fact, when the Ogedai' death arrived the western expedition army, Batu had already prepared for battle of the siege of Vienna(to catch Bela IV).
@@DoraFausztThey also affected more people and lands than any other conquerors before or after until the British did their world tour. They arguably affected the world even more than the Brits due to having such an impact in China.
Very nice episode, about a very interesting and complex period of time in Eastern Europe. One thing you did not mention however, which I personally consider very important and worth mentioning is that the bulgarian ruler Constantin Tikh, did not just suddenly die, he fell victim to the first and only succesfull peasent uprising in european feudal history. It was led by a man called Ivaylo, has was a very fascinating character said to have inspired many other later peasent uprisings and many other later historical figures such as Yan Hus and Joan of Arc. The conditions for this to happen were because Constantine Tikh did not always pay his tribute to Nogai, so the mongols would pillage the northern countryside of Bulgaria for years, without Constantine actually bothering to do anything about this. The bulgarian peasentry was expectedly furious, they were led by Ivaylo, in many battles against the mongols in which they succesfully defeated the armies of Nogai in three separate battles, making the mongols flee north of the danube. After this he rebels led by Ivaylo were able to confront the royal forces, still loyal to Constantine Tikh in a battle infront of the gates of Tarnovo (the bulgarian capital) in which it is said Ivaylo personally killed Constantine and became ruler of Bulgaria for three years. Ivaylo married Constantine's widow, niece of Michael VIII (she betrayed him because he was planning to remove her from power in Bulgaria) lvaylo defeated the byzantine armies led by Michael VIII, by ambushing two of his armies in the balkans passes and destroying them (de-javu) after that he succesfully waged more war against the Golden Horde for 3 years. Unfortunatelly he was betrayed by his own vasals who could never accept a peasent commoner as their tsar, so he fled to Nogai, where he weas eventually killed on the orders of Michael the 8th. (Michael's daugther is said to have instigated this since she was wife of Chaka). Thank you for reading. Keep making such wonderful material, you guys are the only youtube channel that I so gladly donate to, I wish I could give more. You deserve it. Respect from Bulgaria.
There was a bit more on Ivaylo in the original script I sent them- but sadly it had to be cut for time. To discuss it properly would have been another 5 minutes at least onto this video, already very long as it was, and alot more animating it. Such cuts, sadly, always have to be made for videos on any topic.
Boris One question, please. According to the facts, there were no Romanian, neither one person. Please tell me who they are? How can it be, you have lost your territories under the centuries? I know we stood face to face for "Erdőn túl" Erdély (Transylvania), but after this period what happened with you there?
It's all the same with these nomads. They are tough because of there nomadic lifestyle, once they get a successful raid they chill with all there riches they captured and then become soft and lazy, then next war they lose and die
@@xenophon3681 isn't that called karma 😂😂😂 ahh makes me happy while Asia is developing to new age of high tech, Europe becoming shithole like they were in the past . I guess there is something called Devine punishment
Okay, I am Hungarian, I tought I know this era quite okay, but I realized after 1242 we kinda just don't care about Mongolia in our history books. So I am kinda just staring to the monitor totally stupid 😀
@@XJevoX well I am a post-socialism kid, born only a year prior the Iron Curtain fell. So that's no excuse. By the time this was a topic in the books, it was the early 2000's And believe me, the books were anything but about glorious Red Army from the 1990's onwards here.
For the invasion of Subutai and Batu, there are contemporary sources which discuss the entire invasion in detail, not to mention it's hugely dramatic in and of itself, so a narrative is easy to get out of this. For the Mongol return to Hungary, only snippets show up in various sources, and further details show up from archaeology. So much of this is the tentative guesswork of historians to recreate what happened, based off the few details which survive: not the sort of thing that makes a good story for students!
My mother being Hungarian, I received a little bit of Hungarian education in Eger, during which time the Hungarian-centred bias came to my heed whilst reading those books. Be that as it may, it ought to be borne in mind that all countries are biased in favour of their own folks' history, particularly Yankland.
FUN FACT: 19:07 "Toqta" means STOP in kazakh language, we give this name when we have too many children (12-16), We also have CONTINUE (Jalgas) name. Now Toqta name is rare because in muslim tradition every children is given from Allah, and you should not say stop to it
Graet video, as allways. And thanks for mentioning serbian king and his son. Aforementioned king was most capable medieval serbian ruler, creating vast state, that could last after his death.
If we had unlimited time and resources for these videos (and could them all 1 hour long) I would have loved to discuss more on Milutin the the Serbian expansion, as that does tie into Nogai's role in the region. But we always have to draw a line on how much information gets into one video.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory I understand. I even believe that this community has strenght too post 100s of comments on subject that includes medieval relations of Croatia, Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria and Serbia, without globally notorious war in comment section.
that was one of the few mongol defeats. other of their defeats were in japan, Afghanistan, vietnam, chechenya, Egypt, Syria and india when it was protected by the Afghan khilji empire
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Do you intend to cover Ilkanates too?
@@peymanmostafaei6963 they have a video on the Ilkhanate here: th-cam.com/video/_QiPISsBo5M/w-d-xo.html
Please do a video on the India Pakistan wars too
@Kings and Generals not gonna lie this video is confusing, no matter who wins in this battle my ancestors get massacred.
But hey I just checked out your podcast and it looks awesome
Pls do one on mongol war tatcis
Poland: hmmm these horse things seem promising. Might need to invest.
“That where the Hussar came from”
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
@@mixsymouth8523 Actually Hussars came from Hungary not from Poland. They were created by Corvinus family and were initially Serb warriors.
@@Bogdan-uu5oe *huszár
@@Bogdan-uu5oe Early light-armoured hussars have nothing to do with the XVIIc Polish ones
Fun Fact: My hometown was burned by the mongols, and to this day it has never had the same population. It only became a city again in 1920.
Sir Hetiu nice!
@@Ilikeavocados123 lol
Same did with kipchaks our cities burnt
@@theboysmart1578 What city is that?
@@RandomGuy-df1oy Otrar
“Its easy to take over the world on horse back,but it is hard to get off the horse and rule it”
-Bogd Khaan
Isn't that an old Chinese saying from the Han Dynasty?
Oh fuck off Rebecca.
@@TH3R34L5H1T lol
@Gerd Wiesler you could say that for every empire
Or fight like real men face to face like how the Romans conquered Europe infantry vs infantry not shooting arrows and run off like most of the stepp warriors fought.
"Ladders helped the mongols to enter the city"
(they still are represented with their horses on the map)
abcdef27669 does the game have huns units on foot? (I ve never played the game)
Your horses can’t climb ladders?
Horse ladders
Fun Fact: the Mongols actually had horses that could climb walls without the need for ladders.
Because they didn't escalate the walls on foot. You should already know that it takes more than an almost vertical path to separate a Mongol from his horse.
The Mongols had a century of complete dominance before they were nerfed into the ground for breaking the game meta.
honestly that patch was a long time coming
I know dude. That patch really hit the mongol player base hard but in turn saved the European players.
You ain't kidding. I loved the Mongols during Genghis's rampage. So much in fighting and stupidity going on during this phase.
Fortunately some Islamic hacker reprogramed them.
Carlos Nevarez if mongols didn’t in fight and more unite they gotta got to Spain and became conquistador to Mexico lol
I,m old chap from Poland and just want to say Thank you. Never to old to learn.
I love the ''glass shattering sound'' on this channel when a military commander vanquishes his foes, it's so satisfying :P
acadianalien
Same lol
The Hungarians learned from their mistakes in the first invasions.
1. The recuritment of more knights, as their heavy armor can shurg off attacks from Mongolian horse archer.
2. Hiring and training crossbowmen, since it is easier for peasants to learn and yet it has the capability to kill the Mongol light cavarly.
3. Constructing more stone fortifications to delay and to force the Mongols to suffer losses in sieges. Contrary to popular belief, the Mongols rarely encountered well fortified cities. When they did, the Mongols suffered greatly at the hands of the defenders. For example, the Mongols repeatedly failed to push through the Song defense of Southern China due to a pair of stone fortesses. It is only when the Mongols recurited Muslim engineers to construct counter-weight trebuchets did they breached the Song defense.
4. Creating new baronies, so that local nobles have the resources and rights to establish local militias. This is a key strategy, as unlike the "civilized militaries," the Mongols sole source of supplies are from raiding outlaying villages in small parties. Destroyed enough of these parties, the Mongols would lose too many men and would lack the supplies to maintain the invasion.
And dont fight the mongols at open field, lol.
@@peepooo8337 However, it did not mean the Mongols were powerless against knights. The Mongols fielded their own heavy cavalry, who have the blunt weapons capable of dealing with plate armor.
In fact, the Mongols managed to defeat German knights years before events of thus video, by baiting them to chase the Mongol horse archers into ambushes set up by the Mongol heavy lancers.
The Hungarians and later Polish learned from that mistake too and knew to reign in their knights from rash chasings. Instead, they use light cavalry to pursue enemies, as they could avoid Mongol heavy lancers.
@@peepooo8337 Again, there is a reason knights wear padded armor under their plate armor. It greatly soften shock weapons. Also, the shock from arrows will not harm the person, rather it will annoy them.
Even when crossbow and firearms became common in the late 15th and early 16th century Europe, plate armored units were used as shock infantry for they could take on the fire power to an extent.
Armored infantry fell out of favor due to cost effectiveness, while armored cavarly served well into the mid-19th century when all Western and Central European infantries fielded muskets. Even in far richer modern nations like the US, not all men get the best of body protection solely due to the sheer costs.
If Mongol bows can simply go through plate armor, there would end the age of armores cavalry long before the 20th century.
Every1 acts like cavalry is so dominant,in the end that was the mongol weakness...only cavalry,with a proper mix of infantry and range u can control cavalry especially in european lands
What eastern europes problem was incomptent leaders,how many times u fall for fake retreat...when deployed correctly those units will run thru mongols force
Dude you guys can not imagine how happy I am to hear you guys have podcast. I have been looking for a decent one for ages!!
The Mongols were so busy inner fighting, but when they got some leisure time, they invaded Europe
And faied miserably
Failed
Invaded east* Europe
Everyones always talked about it but never make it past hungary,mustv been mighty enuff
They werent goin anywhere,without suprise factor when have mongols ever won a pitched battle?mayb during subutai....maybe
When I visit my family in Poland I always go hiking in the carpathian mountains, it's cool knowing there where a bunch of mongols wandering around in the same area
Take your metal detector with you on your walks. Certain metals will survive the test of time and if you get really lucky you could discover the find of a lifetime. One of the biggest treasure hoards ever found was discovered by a guy who had just bought his detector a month before, and his farmer friend asked him to look for a hammer that he had lost in that farm field. Something like 3500 pieces of gold, silver, and bronze studded with jewels. Lucky bastard! lol
Not wander rather ruled 😂😅
Couple of people in my family's village do have a "tatar" look to them, maby hulugu or gangis did some raping, lol
@@AlphaZuluKilo Mongols didn't rule over Poland.
@@bobburger6485 Nah, most likely ancestors of Crimean Tatars who settled in the Commonwealth in the 16th and 17th century.
Ladislav lV (Hungarian: lV Kun László) was the most interesting member of the Árpád dynasty. He was half Cuman ( Hungarian: Kun) therefore he was much more lax and easy going than his predecessors, he loved (Cuman) women and wine, but apparently never touched his wife Isabella from the Kingdom of Naples. Once he was imprisoned by the nobility to have sex with Isabella, but he still refused, saying she's too frigid and lacks passion. 😅 He was excommunicated several times by the pope because of his lifestyle and friendship with the Cumans. He prompted Simon Kézai to write the history of the Hungarian people (Gesta Hungarorum) where the Huns are being shown as the ancestors of the Hungarians. Both Kézai and the king believed that the Hungarians, Huns and Cumans are basically the same people (Cumans, contrary to other minorities, quickly adopted the Hungarian language and are speaking Hungarian to this day). Ladislav saw his Cuman brethren as 'true Hungarians' their lifestyle as, pure as that of the old Hungarians in Árpád's days. According to Kézai, Árpád, And therefore Ladislav himself is the direct descendent of Attila, the capital Buda is named after Attila's brother Bleda (still Buda in Hungarian literature), Attila's wife Ildikó was Hungarian according to Kézai (while in reality she was a Gepid, but the name Ildikó as well as Attila are still very popular among Hungarians). Although seen as an intelligent, but good-for-nothing drunkard, Ladislav won most of his battles. He defeat Premysl Otakar who was considered to be a military genius at the time and seperated Austria from Bohemia and granting it to a minor swiss nobleman called Rudolf von Habsburg. 😏 He drove back the Mongols and was pitted against the Cumans by the church, defeated them in the battle of Hód lake, but was quick to velcome them back once things have settled. At the end of his reign he had his royal guard composed of only Mongols and Cumans. (he banished the Hungarian nobility and clergy from his court...long story) In the end it was his beloved Cumans who murdered him while he was having sex with his Cuman concubine Édua. (Édua's brother later took revange on the assassins ).
Here, an imaginary portrait of Kun László www.flagmagazin.hu/userfiles/text/IVLaszloKunLaszlo.jpg?full=1
Yes, and Gesta Hungarorum's Hun origin is interesting, because a monk in the 13thcentury, went to east, and he found the rest of hungarians, who stayed in the Ural. They had a kind of a state, what is called Magna Hungaria by historians. But I guess they didn't know about 'Uralic languages' in the 13th century. The mongol invasions destroyed Magna Hungaria, those hungarians who survived, probably assimilated to bashkir people(Turkic people in Siberia) according to genetics. That's why bashkirs has Uralic admixture and they are one of the genetically closest modern population to 10th century hungarians.
Kézai also mentioned the fact that at their arival in Panonia, the Hungarians found there the Vlachs, who willingly remained there.
@Luka Stanić I like the croatians but László was László not slave Ladislav
@ Yes, but Im not a nationalist tho. I just wanted to point out that we could live toghether peacefuly without all the crap we get from the media in our days.
Mongols: Imma attack y’all
ERE: Here’s my princess
*illegitimate princess
@@MrAizatazmi not what he told them mongol boys
@@mr.c.3760 Those mongol boys got deceived though, that "princess" was a bastard born out of marriage, lmao
Prime Arch
Does it matter?
Its truly disgusting if you asked me
But than again my culture sees that as filthy behavior
How many illegitimeta girls tho
I would rather watch content like this 100 times over, rather than the crap YT tries to recommend to me on a daily basis! Well done!
Same here dude
Less yelling about Rey certainly
@Min Tin I shall never care about Turkic history. Ever.
true
Hungary was somewhat lucky in this period.
Throughout massive crises Hungary usually had very weak kings; Vladislaus II being an example, fucked up the Hungarian army and nobility pathing the way for Mohacs.
Béla IV was a strong ruler, and if he wasn’t king at the time, and another weak ruler was in charge, I don’t think Hungary would’ve made it out of the 13th century. He’s got to be one of the greatest Hungarian rulers imo. Not many can take on the might of the mongols, lose and still maintain your prior territorial borders.
true, mongols did not succeed because horse archers are better than kngihts, it's that they're used with generals who know how to use them.
While there were several factors leading to the Mongol campaigns becoming less successful, the fact that Europeans had learned to fight the Mongols should not be underestimated.
The wealth from the previous conquest also turns these hardened nomads into complacency.
Learning from mistakes is crucial for winning wars. The Polish did what Sun Tzu said: know your self and know your enemy and you shall win hundreds of battles.（ 知己知彼，百戰百勝）
Subutai also died, the mongols became a far less effective force, and the Europeans actually finally understood just how powerful the mongols were and took em more seriously
Would love to see mongol against the might of western Europe. I’m sure they like the Roman and other did against the Huns will kick them out of Europe.
I think the decline of success is due to them losing there best general Subatai
Danzig wasn't in the HRE until the second partition of Poland in 1793. Was controlled by Polish nobility until 1308 the Teutonic order took it and lost it in 1466.
Danzig/Gdańsk never was a part of HRE. Even though it belonged to Prussia, it wasn't under imperial jurisdiction.
It was always a German city though until 1945
@@sdsd2e2321 The city was founded in 980, before there even were any Germans in the Baltic.
@@sdsd2e2321 I swear in every legitimate comment discussion, there has to appear this one immune-to-historical-facts butthurt nationalist idiot like you.
@@WWSzar But Germans are Germanic, and Poles are Slavic. That distinction comes way before 980 A.D.
Amazing! More Mongols
Gah, your videos are just so freaking good. Words fail me but your excellence seems to somehow get better and better and I have trouble telling everyone just how good your content is. You guys absoutely rule. Best history channel on TH-cam. Hands down!
Thanks!
Many would always group the Mongols as a single entity where they have a single political structure. But every time we learn how complex and fascinating Mongol history is thanks to you.
It is interesting that the Caucasoids, who were thought to be the master race, were dominated by Mongoloids or Asians. They are only white pigs. Now the Neanderthals were on a roll and are being crushed by the Eastern camp.
Trivia: Nogai in Classical Mongolian means dog
Their banner is also a winged wolf or a dog 🤔
It is a Winged-Wolf
Dog in today society and Mongol era was different
@@vyatcheslavgrim1076 Oui
In Modern Mongolian it is Nokhoi meaning dog
I cant describe how much i love this channel. You guys are simply amazing.
I subscribed to the podcast a while back and I LOVE every episode released.. I listened to the latest 2 episode on the Mongols this morning... Can't wait for the next.
I'm here early enough that envoys have been killed comments are not yet upvoted
Guy stole a long joke from John Dolan's War Nerd podcast and it got upvoted.
@@gibberconfirm166 I didn't still any joke, if you have been watching kings and generals and it seems you haven't, mongol envoys have become a meme.
@@Milenium412 I was talking about the Poland/invade Russia joke at the top.
In all fairness listening to Voices of the Past's reading of Güyük Khan's letter to Pope Innocent IV; I can really understand why Mongol Envoys kept getting killed.
It seems that Kaidu's depiction comes straight from Marco Polo!
Yeah. Kings and Generals uses a lot of images from that show and other movies. In the early Mongol series, they use pictures from the Russian Mongol movie about Genghis Khan for Temuljin and Jamukha. In the Crusader episodes they used images from Kingdom of Heaven as well. It's better than using an auto generated Total War/Paradox Game face, or some sort of flag, I guess.
Such a awesome show!
I want marco polo season 3
Benedict Polak was visiting Mongols before Marco Polo . Stop reading Western Version of history
Bizantine manual for invasions:
1.If you have chances: fight.
2.If you don't: pay tribute.
3.If they still invade you: "here, marry this princes. I have some to spare".
4.If even that doesn't work: get destroyed early, but then change dinasty, get reformed and regain your loses.
*Byzantine
@@chronikhiles *Eastern Roman
Nothing makes my day more than a kings and generals video
Love you Hungarians from Poland! Fighting together forever!
It’s fascinating that the Mongols nearly conquered the entire known world, but the medieval Europeans may not have known the extent or know where and what Asia is without maps (until Polo came about...)
Marco Polo ? no way . He was 2nd in Far East . First maps has been done by Benedict Polak .
A hungarian priest was sent to the east to look for the roots of hungarians and that's how he bumped into the mongols, so he went back to hungary to warn the hungarian king. Just about 2 years before the Hord arrived.
I'm a Mongolian and I've been to Budapest just last week :D, what a timing
Haha hope you liked it! 🙂 I had two classmates in elementary school from Mongolia, they were really nice people! 🙂
I hope you didn't sack it too much
@@MDud-pg2un haha
@@pragueexpat5106 damn sure you brought some culture there
@Batman First of all we don't believe in the existence of "The Devil", Christianity's favorite patsy.., second: we were just better at what everybody was doing.
Lengyel Magyar két jóbarát
Polak Wegier dva bratanki
Poland love Hungary
🇦🇹🇩🇪🇷🇺
Friendship forever ❤️ Amen.
dont feel proud of being polish. it's not your strength that stopped the mongols, but their inner problems
@@shaunibabe1 Austria you fucking traitors!
"When the wings Hussars arrived!"
Hungary and Poland always in the same boat, moved together with fights and battles and fails and successes... and you wondering why we are known as twins, dwe bratanki, két testvér? We saved the asses of westerners several times just because we was there on the way of paganic eastern empires! God bless our eternal union and brotherhood!!!
Friendship of Poland and. Hungary. was forged in the fire of many battles
The best proved. friendship we ever have
A pleasure to watch as usual, lovely animations and explanations, and a pleasure to play, we have fought in miniatures a few Bela IV's battles, Mongol and Hungarian armies are truly superb, even in 15mm!
Historical accurate town names of that time, finally, thank you and well done! Quality video as always.
Bravo Hungary and Polish
Hernando Malinche the mongols by then had seen much of the world. Europe was boggy, cold & full of warring kingdoms. The mongols probably weren’t to impressed by it. China, India & the Middleast were probably far more exotic.
Eastern europe can't do much to defend themselves.This is why they were always invaded by every empire. It was always just some land of s3xy women with long legs and nothing else.
@@fyfyi6053 We defended the eastern wall of Europe while the western kingdoms grew turnips and had jousting matches. Never anything but contempt from the “superior” West. You would all be praying to a different god now...
@@zhiv8087 lol the simp envies you because of your angelic women. But, well simps are simps! 😂
@@zhiv8087 dont feel proud of being polish or hungarian. it's not your strength that stopped the mongols, but their inner problems.
Fantastic stuff! So important to understand the politics and economics, not just the battles. Thanks for your amazing content
My Grandmother was born around 1883, in Delatyn, Ukraine area. Her family where a mix of Polish, Hungarian & Swedish catholics. She arrived as a arranged marriage bride in Ohio in 1899. Her stories of her Polish oral history included tales of the Mongols invaded Poland!
How old are you?
For a minute I thought you had repeated the old video. Great work!
Finally, Central Europe is getting some love :)
really? if that's love, I'd hate to see what hate is
Hungarians kinda deserved it at the time because of betraying their Cuman allies
Which is huge love 😆
Getting love? Not from the mongols lol
@@keithbrown7685 Ottomans
Fun but little known fact, that city that Batu founded and named Sarai would eventually be renamed Volgograd which played an integral part in one of the biggest wars we've known.
I’m here taking a break from Ghost of Tsushima and researching history about Mongolian invasions around the world
As a Mongolian, I deeply appreciate all your works. God bless yall! (Tngri)
John burton let us speak about your british ancestors that killed and sacked for centuries all the world.
I am no turk.I am descendant of Nogay Khan soldiers.
John Burton i can see deep racism and hatreds toward to other races from you. Is that because youre a son of a innocent completely perfect nation by a chance?? That shit dont exist gtfo kido
christians ate people because of a hunger which Mongols never did
Amgaa s stop the bullshit bro, aint no need to push anything to others just cuz they are christian
The podcast is great! Thanks for the shout-out
Would love some videos on Polish battles and kings!
11:10 Kick-ass the 2nd :D
Damn you man i split my tea!!:D
Kai-kus the 2 would be very upset i assume.
Damn you! Damn you to Hell... Now i cannot unhear that... HELP!
I have to thank you for the quality of videos that you produce. They answer a lot of my questions. Will you have any episodes to cover the following mongol campaigns?
Mongol Conquest of the Korean Penisula
Mongol invasion of Burma
Thank you for your time.
King Ladislaus "For every" Mongol- head "sent to me on a platter you get 30 pounds in gold and a nice Christmas bonus !"
This channel is pure gold SUBBED
you die "suddenly", and your son dies "suddenly" and your grandson dies "suddenly"...damn rng.
Subutai best general..
Uzbeg khan: hold my Chay
1/4 Heroic generals of Genghis
When you learn Mongol army muchly was Turkic people...
@@cenanmehmet when you learn you are a nationalist turk and claiming stuff
@@cenanmehmet her yerde Türkleri rezil etmeyin nolur git başka yerde milliyetçilik taslayın
Been waiting for this!
Podcast is awesome!! More on the Mongols, Tartars, and anything more on vercingetorix, post roman england, and Norman's from Rollo to Henry to Italy.
Had no clue you guys had a podcast! Subscribing & sharing with friends today.
Mongol is the *ultimate* patch for shortest term planetary conquest; albeit can be fragmented
@@kimbara3525 precisely - japan saved thanks to their sea patch
@@kimbara3525 lol
@@thedoruk6324 Japan installed the kamikaze - the divine wind patch on their sea sever
Carlos Chan then they patched it to their planes
Nice job as always guys! Really interesting. Also works well together with the pod Wrath of the Khans by Dan Carlin, complement eachother well.
"The Nogai never pays his debt!" Can someone please make a Game of Throne out of this?
N L Nogais a fookin legend
I feel a litteral satisfaction once I see notification from Kings n Generals.. Especially if it is Ottoman or Mongol series.. jesus keep up good work guys :D
Haroldas Butkus it’s so well made series
subscribed to your spotify podcast!!!!! i've been waitin for that!!!
15:12 There's a mistake in the video. Sáros and Szepés should be flipped, for Sáros is in the east and Szepés (the largest castle in Central Europe) is in the west.
Poles and Hungarians, your efforts kept us safe. We Czechs salute you all.
Great video !
Let me show something:
Mongolian invasions of Hungary:
1241: victory (battle of mohi)
1285: not victory (draw)
1345: defeat --->TOTAL HUNGARIAN VICTORY !
In 1345 King Louis the Great sent baron Andrew Lackfi to invade the lands of the Golden Horde in retaliation for the Tatars' earlier plundering raids against Transylvania.
On the days 2-5 february 1345 the hungarian army crushed the huge tatar army. TOTALLY ! It was the three days long battle,one of the biggest battle of middle ages.
Thereafter the Golden Horde's control of the lands between the Eastern Carpathians and the Black Sea weakened.
So the Hungarian Kingdom became great power.
Please make a video about these events !
THX from Hungary !! Amazing work again !
Great job K&G 👍 Thank you!
I am glad finally this series of video came out to literally document the history of Mongol invasion.
"Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar", but not in 95% of China population(the biggest ethnic group, Han). Long time Chinese were wronged to be Mongolian. However, same as what happened in Europe in 13th century, China(the Song Dynasty) was invaded by Mongol and was conquered, and people in Song Dynasty were officially treated to be the lowest class of the Mongol Empire. Main body of Chinese people were the exact victims of Mongol invasion. In Chinese Han ethnic group's tale, evil daemon comes from the north. In Korean tale, evil daemon comes from the west. In Europe tale, evil daemon might come from the east. All are telling the same thing.That was a miserable, horrible time. My family book told me that my ancestor and his brother were killed by Mongolian with four limbs cut.
People can tell Chinese Han people are quite different from those north people who liked to invade other countries. Chinese people were lived on agriculture, raising plants, and lacking of horses and oxen. Chinese people used cities to defend themselves, because of lacking of horses, they did not have capability to move the army to Europe. By face appearance, Chinese Han people are more similar to Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese.
This channel is awesome. Thank you for your work.
Thanks for watching!
The Mongols are cool, but this channel is even cooler.
Greeting from Poland :)
@hilmi lubis Hi :D
19:45 What I heard: "He appointed a puppet Bulgarian Tsar, Skrillex"
"We have a pod..."
Never have I subscribed to something so quickly.
Except maybe the 'Revolutions' podcast.
The original plan of Batu Khan and Subutai was exactly "keep conquering until see the Ocean", so if Ogedai Khan didn't die at that time, Batu and Subutai wouldn't stop invasion. In fact, when the Ogedai' death arrived the western expedition army, Batu had already prepared for battle of the siege of Vienna(to catch Bela IV).
It is astonishing that the Mongols will get as much as 50 more episodes
They did attack a lot of different peoples.
You might be surprised to discover just how important the Mongol Empire was for the 13th century in general. Totally shaped history.
@@DoraFausztThey also affected more people and lands than any other conquerors before or after until the British did their world tour. They arguably affected the world even more than the Brits due to having such an impact in China.
@@jaythompson5102 yes, true that! The Mongol Empires affect on world history is quite underrated
They placed very crucial role in Eastern Asia, especially China and around till at least 19th Century
Very nice episode, about a very interesting and complex period of time in Eastern Europe. One thing you did not mention however, which I personally consider very important and worth mentioning is that the bulgarian ruler Constantin Tikh, did not just suddenly die, he fell victim to the first and only succesfull peasent uprising in european feudal history. It was led by a man called Ivaylo, has was a very fascinating character said to have inspired many other later peasent uprisings and many other later historical figures such as Yan Hus and Joan of Arc. The conditions for this to happen were because Constantine Tikh did not always pay his tribute to Nogai, so the mongols would pillage the northern countryside of Bulgaria for years, without Constantine actually bothering to do anything about this. The bulgarian peasentry was expectedly furious, they were led by Ivaylo, in many battles against the mongols in which they succesfully defeated the armies of Nogai in three separate battles, making the mongols flee north of the danube. After this he rebels led by Ivaylo were able to confront the royal forces, still loyal to Constantine Tikh in a battle infront of the gates of Tarnovo (the bulgarian capital) in which it is said Ivaylo personally killed Constantine and became ruler of Bulgaria for three years. Ivaylo married Constantine's widow, niece of Michael VIII (she betrayed him because he was planning to remove her from power in Bulgaria) lvaylo defeated the byzantine armies led by Michael VIII, by ambushing two of his armies in the balkans passes and destroying them (de-javu) after that he succesfully waged more war against the Golden Horde for 3 years. Unfortunatelly he was betrayed by his own vasals who could never accept a peasent commoner as their tsar, so he fled to Nogai, where he weas eventually killed on the orders of Michael the 8th. (Michael's daugther is said to have instigated this since she was wife of Chaka). Thank you for reading. Keep making such wonderful material, you guys are the only youtube channel that I so gladly donate to, I wish I could give more. You deserve it. Respect from Bulgaria.
If anyone is interested in reading more about this:
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivaylo_of_Bulgaria
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprising_of_Ivaylo
There was a bit more on Ivaylo in the original script I sent them- but sadly it had to be cut for time. To discuss it properly would have been another 5 minutes at least onto this video, already very long as it was, and alot more animating it. Such cuts, sadly, always have to be made for videos on any topic.
Boris One question, please. According to the facts, there were no Romanian, neither one person. Please tell me who they are? How can it be, you have lost your territories under the centuries? I know we stood face to face for "Erdőn túl" Erdély (Transylvania), but after this period what happened with you there?
Great video. Nice to see a return to the Mongols
Fantastic as Always,thanks mate!
4:39 Mongols feasting and getting ambushed later...why is this soooo familiar?
It's all the same with these nomads. They are tough because of there nomadic lifestyle, once they get a successful raid they chill with all there riches they captured and then become soft and lazy, then next war they lose and die
It's the same with all civilizations. Europe ruled the world a hundred years ago, now it's being colonized by it without lifting a finger to stop it.
Xenophon because it lost the ideological and civilizational war against globalism and Marxism 80 years ago. But it's still not over.
Civilizations come civilizations go. Kings come kings go. It’s just how things go. Nobody can stay at the top forever.
@@xenophon3681 isn't that called karma 😂😂😂 ahh makes me happy while Asia is developing to new age of high tech, Europe becoming shithole like they were in the past . I guess there is something called Devine punishment
@@tammiejohan5235 asia is merely copying nothing else
Kinda cool how Budapest used to be Buda & Pest
Noobus Wonder Buda, Obuda and Pest .
it's the first city to be born out of a gay relationship Buda and Pest!
Okay, I am Hungarian, I tought I know this era quite okay, but I realized after 1242 we kinda just don't care about Mongolia in our history books.
So I am kinda just staring to the monitor totally stupid 😀
Its normal. Education in era of socialism cared more about glory of the Red Army than anything else.
@@XJevoX well I am a post-socialism kid, born only a year prior the Iron Curtain fell. So that's no excuse. By the time this was a topic in the books, it was the early 2000's
And believe me, the books were anything but about glorious Red Army from the 1990's onwards here.
Our history education is horrible indeed. I had to relearn most of it. They removed all the parts which even remotely gives you national pride.
For the invasion of Subutai and Batu, there are contemporary sources which discuss the entire invasion in detail, not to mention it's hugely dramatic in and of itself, so a narrative is easy to get out of this. For the Mongol return to Hungary, only snippets show up in various sources, and further details show up from archaeology. So much of this is the tentative guesswork of historians to recreate what happened, based off the few details which survive: not the sort of thing that makes a good story for students!
My mother being Hungarian, I received a little bit of Hungarian education in Eger, during which time the Hungarian-centred bias came to my heed whilst reading those books. Be that as it may, it ought to be borne in mind that all countries are biased in favour of their own folks' history, particularly Yankland.
A random question but are you guys going to make videos about Nadir Shah?
I am so impressed over this content.
FYI: I can't see the date in the upper right corner very well.
What do you mean? It's very clear.
Is the podcast on spotify?
It surely is!
*Whenever the channel releases a video*
Me: oh boi 8 am
I love your videos. You are doing an amazing job
Hello! Will you make a video about Cuman-Kipchaks in the future?
Master George from Solivar (from Sáros/Šariš), thumbs up! I live where the guy was from!
FUN FACT:
19:07 "Toqta" means STOP in kazakh language, we give this name when we have too many children (12-16), We also have CONTINUE (Jalgas) name. Now Toqta name is rare because in muslim tradition every children is given from Allah, and you should not say stop to it
Toqta It Means To Keep In Mongolian And Toqta Was A Buddhist Shamanist Toqta Was Not A Muslim
@@Tamerlane_ i translated to keep from mongolian and it gives me "khadgalakh"
Podcast is lit
Just awesome. Thanks!
14:43 This where the game 'To Kingdom Come Deliverance' got their story? But the villain there is Cumans.
Graet video, as allways. And thanks for mentioning serbian king and his son. Aforementioned king was most capable medieval serbian ruler, creating vast state, that could last after his death.
If we had unlimited time and resources for these videos (and could them all 1 hour long) I would have loved to discuss more on Milutin the the Serbian expansion, as that does tie into Nogai's role in the region. But we always have to draw a line on how much information gets into one video.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory I understand. I even believe that this community has strenght too post 100s of comments on subject that includes medieval relations of Croatia, Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria and Serbia, without globally notorious war in comment section.
When you dump everything into horses and archery
Mongol invasion of Java please
Up
Be a Patreon.
that was one of the few mongol defeats. other of their defeats were in japan, Afghanistan, vietnam, chechenya, Egypt, Syria and india when it was protected by the Afghan khilji empire
you mean java
I didn't know that Mongols landed on Tatooine and invaded Jawa tanks
I have been waiting with dread for this episode
I agree. You have a very harsh voice on a very harsh history. Well Done Mate.
(Golden Horde Attacking Hungary)
Hungary: Call an ambulance, call an ambulance!!! B U T N O T F O R M E !
As far as the Mongols went
People when talk about mongols: amazing warriors
About Spanish: genocides
It's funny
Have you done a video on the organisation of the Mongol Army?
No, but we will
ohh been a while for the Mongol videos ... great work pals