Byly MSZ wysmiewajacy za granica poziom polskich uniwersytetow (i to nie w ramach wezwania do podwyzszenia ich poziomu, ale by zdyskedytowac interlokutora) - co za brak klasy!
Ale czy poparcie kłamstw smoleńskich to świadczyć ma dobrze o profesorze z UJ? Po prawniku, doktorze Duda z tego uniwersytetu wiemy co nieco o tamtejszym wydziale prawa (ahahaha)
@@jaroslawpeter3586 Brak klasy to w publicznej debacie atakować personalnie swojego partnera w dyskusji na wykładzie publicznym - to poziom profesora UJ. To, że polskie uczelnie są klasyfikowane ok 500 miejsca w rankingach światowych nie świadczy o nich i o kadrze dobrze. Prawactwo nacjonalistyczne: bycie dumnym z czegoś czego się samemu nie zrobiło i nienawiść do ludzi, których się nie poznało.
@@RobS64 Brak manier Sikorskiego jest w Polsce szeroko znany. Jego słynne robienie "łaski" z Sowa i Przyjaciele, chamskie dowcipy i słynne "trzeba dorżnąć watahę" zajmują niechlubne miejsce na ścianie hańby menelskiej dyplomacji. Jeśli takich osobników masowo produkuje Oxford to tylko antyreklama tego miejsca. Największy nielot polskiej dyplomacji, zresztą były członek PiS. Typowy karierowicz, woda na niemiecki młyn.
@@RobS64 Jeśli "atakujesz" kogoś CYTUJĄC jego własne słowa, to jest to jak najbardziej dozwolone w debacie akademickiej. To jest fair. Postsowiecki szderczy obskórny styl Sikorskiego, jego żałosna pretensjonalna maniera zgrywania lorda, którym nie jest, ataki personalne bez podawania faktów, dopełniają obrazu tego nieudanego, wysoce niedyplomatycznego polityka.
@@jaroslawpeter3586 Ale te "cytaty" są używane w sposób, który ma na celu manipulacje wypowiedzi. Natomiast chciałbym, aby Pan podał przykład "zgrywania lorda" i przykład tych "ataków personalnych". Tylko z góry zaznaczam - proszę mi nie pisać, że i tak tego nie zrozumiem, że jestem zabetonowany, że jestem zdrajcą etc. Naprawdę chętnie zapoznam się z tymi przykładami.
Pan Nowak skompromitował sikorskiego jako ministra i jako Polaka i jako człowieka!Sikorski dal świadectwo swojego prymitywizmu paroma komentarzami i każdy wie typ dobić watache.
Niestety...a jeszcze bardziej smutne że na tym lewackim uniwersytecie same gnidy w stylu zdradka...wspaniale Prof rozjechał tego antypolaka .... Gnida myślała że jak ma brytyjski akcent to wszystko mu wolno.... Mam nadzieję, że po wojnie takie gówno będzie z kraju wyrzucone lub osądzone...i osadzone.
Clown Sikorski, Oxford's graduate, schooled by prof. Nowak on every issue they discussed. You can learn a lot from prof. Nowak how to discuss with idiots and humiliate them in an elegant way.
I AM writing in August 2022... How very much right prof. Nowak was and how very much wrong Sikorski was in this debate... I AM Polish and believe me, closly watching politics, every word prof. Nowak was saying was truth. Very sad.
A Polish Foreign Minister (however former) acknowledging that the educational institution in his own country is inferior to any other education institution in another country - even if that might be true - is negatively significant, to say the least. Minister Sikorski.... if you feel inferior in dealing with other countries, then what do you want to achieve?
32:10 Radosław Sikorski is no person of academic nature but a ruthless politician interested in being perceived as a winner, no matter the cost. This moment illustrates that attitude of his rather well.
Behind Sikorsky's elegance, smoothness and fluency there are real acts of political hatred towards his political opponents and in particular to president Lech Kaczynski. Had the visits of the Prime Minister and the President not been separated in April 2010, the Smolensk catastrophe would not have happened.
It was Lech Kaczynski who was to organize the official Polish delegation to commemorate the 70th anniversary of Katyn massacre. Not until the very last moment did the government confirm the booking of the plane for the presidential delegation when the Prime Minister suddenly had an idea to make a separate visit. The media was informed that the official visit is Prime Minister’s visit but Lech Kaczynski’s visit was private. Over 500 memeber delegation to Katyn was classified as private and its security standards were not enough.
@Wojciech Balcerzak So what are you saying? Should Tusk and other cabinet members have been onboard, when the President decided that no matter what, we have to land in Smolensk? :/
It is really pitty to see the forner minister of foreign affairs make a political campaign speech in the debate like that. Mr Sikorski did not lose his arrogance even as an ex minister. The truth of the matter is that so called new tactics in approach to russia revealed to be a misshot. Poland was a big absent of any negotiations related to ukraine. Needless to say that poland had a great an honorable seat in the normand format ..... of a reporter. Mr sikorski mentioned fantastic collaboration within weimar triangle. Well this is probably the best what he could say. Weimar triangle went into phase of cerebral death in this period. In 2012 the comitee of this triangle was dissolved. The main problem with sikorski is not even his ignorance but the fact that he is a political partisan and player. Mr nowak clearly pointed out the weak points and flaws in his opponent approach. Ps waszczykowski was probablly a foreign minister as bad as sikorski was.
Zdradek forsuje politykę mocarstw zamiast własną (notabene jej nie ma)UWAŻAJĄC ŻE POLSKA MA BYĆ SILNĄ SIŁĄ MOCARSTW.Tu od razu zrzeka się własnego zdania nas wszystkich i de facto robi z Polski niewolników.Żenujący agent wpływu Taki koń trojański trujący polskie interesy wraz z tuskoidami.
Nowak is right. Politicians subject the citizens to a therapy and impose on them the way they should live. The citizens said a big "No" and ousted those politicians with a ballot.
I na kogo Sikorski się porwał?😱 jeszcze nie zaczęłam oglądania, ale w ciemno,znając wiedzę i erudycji prof Nowaka, wiem kto wypadnie słabiutko w konfrontacji z panem profesorem 👍
A moze,sie zastanowimy kto rzadzil Polska po smierci Narutowicza ( wyksztalconego w SZWAJCARII-,Polacy to taki fantastyczny narod ,ze wybieraja ( mam swoje prywatne okreslenie " wyksztalcona Holota),Absolutnie prof. Nowak i jego "poszerzony horyzont myslenia",moze blyszczec w jego bezposrednim otoczeniu -zob. wyzej wyksz.holota-absolutnie Yes,niestety Polacy nie potrafia nawet dostrzec ,a co dopiero wykorzystac talent jak chociazby RADOSLAW SIKORSKI-to tak na poczatek
TODAY Sikorski is recognize like a scam in Poland. He was wrong. Prof. Nowak was and is fantastic with All predictions. Hope True will come out. Best From Poland :)
Today Sikorski is recognize like a scam in Poland, by Poles who only watch Polish National TV, witch is on this same level of propaganda as it was during communism times... So it's like 30% of Poles who voted last time, so it's less that 1/3 of Poles in Poland... That's mean it is just supporters of one of polish parties, not a nation. Plus he have being elected as a MEP, so... But I am sure, germans voted for him, not "truly poles" ; )
Facts? Prof. Nowak said that PM Tusk's first foreign visit was to Moscow. In fact his first visit was to Lithuania (November 2007). Then Belgium, Italy, Czech Republic, Germany, France, Portugal, Belgium again, Czech Republic again, Slovakia, and then Russia (February 2008). The visit to Russia was his 10th foreign visit, not the first. All the way through this debate Prof. Nowak blatantly serves us plain lies, intertwined with half-truths and insinuations.
Skup się na tym, co kto ma rozsądnego do powiedzenia, a nie na sprawach bez znaczenia. Nie oceniaj wartości czyichś argumentów po tikach i mimice. Ktoś, kto nie ma tików może ze spokojem wmawiać innym, że 2+2=6, a osoba, która to widzi, może ze złości dostać tików. Więc tiki nie mają nic wspólnego z mądrością, wartością i wiarygodnością dyskutanta.
Dziwię się Sikorskiemu że zdecydował się debatować z prof. Nowakiem. Przynajmniej po raz kolejny wyszło, jak małym człowiekiem jest zdRadek. Zarzucać swojemu adwersarzowi, że żle przekłada na angielski polskie sprawy i że dlatego UJ i inne największe uczelnie nie dorównują tym z pierwszej światowej 10tki, to szczyt chamstwa.
Sikorski radosław do dymisji. $800,000. dostał od Rosji za wpis oskarżając stany zjednoczone ze wysadzili nortstream 1, 2, Ten wpis naraził polske na atak rosji na polske.
Prof Andrzej Nowak o Sikorskim - "To cham i prostak który poniewiera słabszymi i liże buty silniejszym." Prof Andrzej Nowak on Sikorski - "He's a boor and lout who kicks around the weak and licks the boots of the strong."
Radosław Sikorski powinien dostać głowną rolę w filmie "Zmiennicy" . Te "elity" po transformacji, to sfora zmienników czychających na posadę w kolejnych ugrupowaniach.
Professor Andrzej Nowak AGAIN showed the strength of calm and factual approach while Mr. Sikorski still not aquired any sophistication. He is known in Poland for his butcherly style
I see, but pay more attention to arguments. I believe Mr Sikorski's indignation may be to some extent attributed to accusation of 'treason' (seen even in the comments here) and other propagandist, populist slogans used in the last campaign, eg. "Poland in ruin".
Sikorski went crazy after Nowak's response. Sorry, shouting 'conspiracy theory' doesn't convince anybody anymore. Especially since Nowak didn't mention anything about causes of the crash.
He didn't but Mr. Kaczynski played this card successfully since 2010. This is rather prof. Nowak not responding to Sikorsky's references about PiS using conspiracy theory and hate speech in the last campaign and before. The same prof. Nowak was speaking about 'national consensus' Ridiculous :)
Andrzej Nowak just nailed it down about flirting with the evil. The Method of dealing with Russia is... let it go bankrupt by over spending for this "constant carnival of proudness" and then deal with Russia like in 1985. But next time make sure it really changes.
Despite the evident antagonism, they actually tried to throw a bridge across the other side. Twice or thrice they admitted they do agree or that they have the same goals. I really appreciate it. While at the same time the debate in Poland is nothing close to this format. They talk throught media, in which best interest is keeping the atmosphere hot as hell. I wish we could have more of those debates.
Good afternoon, you've got the point, Sir. When was the last time Mr. Donald Tusk or one of other leaders of respective parties met with, say, Mr. Kaczyński in private, to talk and have a cup of coffee together? They should do it on a regular basis. This is the difference between the way Polish politicians act and UK's people in charge received practice of behaviour. It would seem the overwhelming inability to restrain their emotions and serve in best interest for the middle European country and its people bears tart fruit. I share your wish. A debate with Mr. Tusk and Mr. Jacek Bartosiak could be a proposal of an interesting meeting.
Radek Sikorski: me, I, myself... Such high flying ego. And there is no substance behind it. Real R. Sikorski shows himself through "tapes of truth" from Sowa & Friends. Very eye opening experience. And still he has audacity to be seen publicly is beyond comprehension. No honour whatsoever. That what one would call "murzynstwo"
Wstyd mi, że taki człowiek jak Sikorski był w Polsce ministrem. Potrafi tylko obrażać. Profesor Nowak dobrze wytknął mu fakty a ten mu bluzga w odpowiedzi. Żenada.
Ex foreign minister discrediting PL universities, president's role and prerogatives and Poland's voice in EU. What does he do in our politics still is more than alarming!
We remember "Succumb or you will all DIE" and we, me, my family, my neighbors prefer straight and united response to aggression like pres Lech Kaczyński. We are not rusophobic, but we will not be Chamberlains and Daladiers of xxi century either.
When poland produces food products of its own, they are of very good quality. Especially in the bio non gluten world and there own view of cafe and coffee shops are original inventive and fresh. Generally workers on the ground working in service type worlds, are more content working for there home grown countries. How this is in commerce I can not comment on. The new generation of workers need more motivation and profit incentives based on the sincerity their work.
I would rather make debate with Sikorski's wife Anne. This would be more interesting. Sikorski is compromised by his political involvement in PiS and later PO.
Wow, Sikorski might have scored a little better in this had he admitted at least some errors in judgement that he had made during his presidency. Simply accusing 5he opponent of misquoting while he had all the papers in place to read from was below weak. Also Sikorki's argument that he had graduated from a better university than the professor had and therefore he Sikorski must be in the right was well, self-evident of him lacking the true arguments in this duel.
Sikorski dobrze punktuje zagrożenia dla Polski i słabości polityki PiS, ale sam był fatalny jak cały jego rząd. Prof Nowak którego osobiście bardzo cenię i czytam jego książki (Dzieje Polski) starał się jak mógł aby obronić słabiutką politykę tego klauna Waszczykowskiego i chyba dobrze o tym wie ale jakoś dał radę.
This film is a crystal clear display as of why it was Mr. Sikorski, not Mr. Nowak who worked for seven years as Polish Foreign Minister. I have to admit I hadn't known Mr. Andrzej Nowak is characterised with such narrow horison, apparently being completely rid of psychological factor in politics. His way of thinking is too strongly affected by fear of being 'used' by Russians and this effectively prevents him from seeing long-term consequences of actions, let alone giving the optimum advice. As a matter of fact, even assuming that Russia is so aggressive and imperial, Mr. Sikorski's way of getting around in diplomacy is by far more effective, safer and better not only for Poland but also for Russia, than the current policy now embodied by the Polish state and represented here by Mr. Nowak. Update 2023: Today, Jarosław Kaczyński, with his 50K payment to Ukraine's armed forces, apologized to Radosław Sikorski for calling him a 'diplomatic traitor' and this speaks for itself.
Nie mogę z tych komentarzy xD. Sikorski, jeden z najlepszych polityków i najlepszy MSZ Polski po 89' rozjeżdża merytorycznością Prof. Nowaka, a pisowcy fanatycy i tak twierdzą, że to "upadek Sikorskiego" xD.
najlepszy polityk no bo jebneeeee normalnie zaraz, to ten sam co prosił niemców aby przejeli władzę w Polsce? koleś jebnij się o ścianę to może zmądrzejesz ale nie gwarantuję.
Jeden z waszych najlepszych, tu zgoda. Mając to na uwadze nigdy nie stawajcie do debaty z gigantami intelektu i wtedy jakoś od biedy możecie wbijaç te wybitne głupoty w sformatowane mózgi poborejszowskie.
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Byly MSZ wysmiewajacy za granica poziom polskich uniwersytetow (i to nie w ramach wezwania do podwyzszenia ich poziomu, ale by zdyskedytowac interlokutora) - co za brak klasy!
Ale czy poparcie kłamstw smoleńskich to świadczyć ma dobrze o profesorze z UJ? Po prawniku, doktorze Duda z tego uniwersytetu wiemy co nieco o tamtejszym wydziale prawa (ahahaha)
@@jaroslawpeter3586 Brak klasy to w publicznej debacie atakować personalnie swojego partnera w dyskusji na wykładzie publicznym - to poziom profesora UJ. To, że polskie uczelnie są klasyfikowane ok 500 miejsca w rankingach światowych nie świadczy o nich i o kadrze dobrze. Prawactwo nacjonalistyczne: bycie dumnym z czegoś czego się samemu nie zrobiło i nienawiść do ludzi, których się nie poznało.
@@RobS64 Brak manier Sikorskiego jest w Polsce szeroko znany. Jego słynne robienie "łaski" z Sowa i Przyjaciele, chamskie dowcipy i słynne "trzeba dorżnąć watahę" zajmują niechlubne miejsce na ścianie hańby menelskiej dyplomacji. Jeśli takich osobników masowo produkuje Oxford to tylko antyreklama tego miejsca. Największy nielot polskiej dyplomacji, zresztą były członek PiS. Typowy karierowicz, woda na niemiecki młyn.
@@RobS64 Jeśli "atakujesz" kogoś CYTUJĄC jego własne słowa, to jest to jak najbardziej dozwolone w debacie akademickiej. To jest fair. Postsowiecki szderczy obskórny styl Sikorskiego, jego żałosna pretensjonalna maniera zgrywania lorda, którym nie jest, ataki personalne bez podawania faktów, dopełniają obrazu tego nieudanego, wysoce niedyplomatycznego polityka.
@@jaroslawpeter3586 Ale te "cytaty" są używane w sposób, który ma na celu manipulacje wypowiedzi. Natomiast chciałbym, aby Pan podał przykład "zgrywania lorda" i przykład tych "ataków personalnych". Tylko z góry zaznaczam - proszę mi nie pisać, że i tak tego nie zrozumiem, że jestem zabetonowany, że jestem zdrajcą etc. Naprawdę chętnie zapoznam się z tymi przykładami.
Pan Nowak skompromitował sikorskiego jako ministra i jako Polaka i jako człowieka!Sikorski dal świadectwo swojego prymitywizmu paroma komentarzami i każdy wie typ dobić watache.
👍👍👍🇵🇱👍👍👍
Brawo Prof.Nowak !!! Excellent arguments vs. Sikorski !
Jego machanie łapami i jego nerwowość jest dowodem na jego brak panowania nad emocjami a to brak jego profesjonalizmu!!
Przypomina to dialog inteligenta z gangsterem. Smutne.
Niestety...a jeszcze bardziej smutne że na tym lewackim uniwersytecie same gnidy w stylu zdradka...wspaniale Prof rozjechał tego antypolaka .... Gnida myślała że jak ma brytyjski akcent to wszystko mu wolno.... Mam nadzieję, że po wojnie takie gówno będzie z kraju wyrzucone lub osądzone...i osadzone.
Clown Sikorski, Oxford's graduate, schooled by prof. Nowak on every issue they discussed. You can learn a lot from prof. Nowak how to discuss with idiots and humiliate them in an elegant way.
I AM writing in August 2022... How very much right prof. Nowak was and how very much wrong Sikorski was in this debate... I AM Polish and believe me, closly watching politics, every word prof. Nowak was saying was truth.
Very sad.
A Polish Foreign Minister (however former) acknowledging that the educational institution in his own country is inferior to any other education institution in another country - even if that might be true - is negatively significant, to say the least. Minister Sikorski.... if you feel inferior in dealing with other countries, then what do you want to achieve?
Agree. This comment was inappropriate and only shows what kind of clown Sikorski is
32:10 Radosław Sikorski is no person of academic nature but a ruthless politician interested in being perceived as a winner, no matter the cost.
This moment illustrates that attitude of his rather well.
Sikorski: "Poland might make sacrifices". He already said to the Ukrainians: "you sign the contract with Janukowicz and Russia or you are all dead".
At that time it might have been the only good option for Ukrainian opposition.
He was right at the time.
@@jibbyjabs
Jesteś glupi jak Sikorski
I co Radek Zdradek?! ZatkaŁO kakaŁO. Dawno nie widziałem żeby ktoś tak spokojnie uzbrojony w wiedzę i argumenty rozjechał Radka Zdradka.
Behind Sikorsky's elegance, smoothness and fluency there are real acts of political hatred towards his political opponents and in particular to president Lech Kaczynski. Had the visits of the Prime Minister and the President not been separated in April 2010, the Smolensk catastrophe would not have happened.
So instead of two visits, there should have been only one? Are you saying that the PM and the President should have been on the same plane?
It was Lech Kaczynski who was to organize the official Polish delegation to commemorate the 70th anniversary of Katyn massacre. Not until the very last moment did the government confirm the booking of the plane for the presidential delegation when the Prime Minister suddenly had an idea to make a separate visit. The media was informed that the official visit is Prime Minister’s visit but Lech Kaczynski’s visit was private. Over 500 memeber delegation to Katyn was classified as private and its security standards were not enough.
Not true.
@Wojciech Balcerzak
So what are you saying? Should Tusk and other cabinet members have been onboard, when the President decided that no matter what, we have to land in Smolensk? :/
Our President never decided to land in Smolensk. Are you a Russian agent or sth?
It is really pitty to see the forner minister of foreign affairs make a political campaign speech in the debate like that. Mr Sikorski did not lose his arrogance even as an ex minister. The truth of the matter is that so called new tactics in approach to russia revealed to be a misshot. Poland was a big absent of any negotiations related to ukraine. Needless to say that poland had a great an honorable seat in the normand format ..... of a reporter. Mr sikorski mentioned fantastic collaboration within weimar triangle. Well this is probably the best what he could say. Weimar triangle went into phase of cerebral death in this period. In 2012 the comitee of this triangle was dissolved. The main problem with sikorski is not even his ignorance but the fact that he is a political partisan and player. Mr nowak clearly pointed out the weak points and flaws in his opponent approach. Ps waszczykowski was probablly a foreign minister as bad as sikorski was.
Niebywale,jak mozna sie mierzyc z p.Prof.Nowakiem panie Sikorski..
Jakby Sikorski Radek zdradek miał choć odrobinę honoru .. ale przecież go nigdy nie miał...
Dokladnie! Zaba podstawia nogę gdy konia kują!
Zdradek forsuje politykę mocarstw zamiast własną (notabene jej nie ma)UWAŻAJĄC ŻE POLSKA MA BYĆ SILNĄ SIŁĄ MOCARSTW.Tu od razu zrzeka się własnego zdania nas wszystkich i de facto robi z Polski niewolników.Żenujący agent wpływu Taki koń trojański trujący polskie interesy wraz z tuskoidami.
Nowak is right. Politicians subject the citizens to a therapy and impose on them the way they should live. The citizens said a big "No" and ousted those politicians with a ballot.
I na kogo Sikorski się porwał?😱 jeszcze nie zaczęłam oglądania, ale w ciemno,znając wiedzę i erudycji prof Nowaka, wiem kto wypadnie słabiutko w konfrontacji z panem profesorem 👍
Zdanie wyrobione zanim obejzales ? Obiekrywny I poinformowany jestes 🙄
A moze,sie zastanowimy kto rzadzil Polska po smierci Narutowicza ( wyksztalconego w SZWAJCARII-,Polacy to taki fantastyczny narod ,ze wybieraja ( mam swoje prywatne okreslenie " wyksztalcona Holota),Absolutnie prof. Nowak i jego "poszerzony horyzont myslenia",moze blyszczec w jego bezposrednim otoczeniu -zob. wyzej wyksz.holota-absolutnie Yes,niestety Polacy nie potrafia nawet dostrzec ,a co dopiero wykorzystac talent jak chociazby RADOSLAW SIKORSKI-to tak na poczatek
TODAY Sikorski is recognize like a scam in Poland. He was wrong. Prof. Nowak was and is fantastic with All predictions. Hope True will come out. Best From Poland :)
Today Sikorski is recognize like a scam in Poland, by Poles who only watch Polish National TV, witch is on this same level of propaganda as it was during communism times... So it's like 30% of Poles who voted last time, so it's less that 1/3 of Poles in Poland... That's mean it is just supporters of one of polish parties, not a nation. Plus he have being elected as a MEP, so... But I am sure, germans voted for him, not "truly poles" ; )
Nervous Sikorski has no credibility. Zero. Prof. Nowak devastating him just talking kindly about facts.
Facts? Prof. Nowak said that PM Tusk's first foreign visit was to Moscow. In fact his first visit was to Lithuania (November 2007). Then Belgium, Italy, Czech Republic, Germany, France, Portugal, Belgium again, Czech Republic again, Slovakia, and then Russia (February 2008). The visit to Russia was his 10th foreign visit, not the first. All the way through this debate Prof. Nowak blatantly serves us plain lies, intertwined with half-truths and insinuations.
tusk is a traitor Polish
Tusk may be a traitor but that doesn't change the fact that you're a boorish dimwit who can't even write a simple sentence in English correctly.
I know Polish correctly.
it's your childish arguments
I wasn't writing about your knowledge of Polish, silly billy.
Sikorski nie jest suwerenny - reprezentuje w 50% Ann Applebaum.
on reprezentuje Niemcow i pare innych rzadow.
Rząd ogólno - światowy za nim stoi.
Sikorski ma tiki nerwowe i mimikę Mussoliniego. Nie przydaje mu to wiarygodności.
niebezpieczna debata - all can came out suddenly
To nie tiki nerwowe tylko reakcja na utrate koryta
Skup się na tym, co kto ma rozsądnego do powiedzenia, a nie na sprawach bez znaczenia. Nie oceniaj wartości czyichś argumentów po tikach i mimice. Ktoś, kto nie ma tików może ze spokojem wmawiać innym, że 2+2=6, a osoba, która to widzi, może ze złości dostać tików. Więc tiki nie mają nic wspólnego z mądrością, wartością i wiarygodnością dyskutanta.
Sikorski zarabia obecnie wielokrotnie więcej niż jako szef MSZ synku więc trafiłeś kulą w płot.
Dziwię się Sikorskiemu że zdecydował się debatować z prof. Nowakiem. Przynajmniej po raz kolejny wyszło, jak małym człowiekiem jest zdRadek. Zarzucać swojemu adwersarzowi, że żle przekłada na angielski polskie sprawy i że dlatego UJ i inne największe uczelnie nie dorównują tym z pierwszej światowej 10tki, to szczyt chamstwa.
Sikorski radosław do dymisji. $800,000. dostał od Rosji za wpis oskarżając stany zjednoczone ze wysadzili nortstream 1, 2,
Ten wpis naraził polske na atak rosji na polske.
Jedna rzecz jest uderzająca, w Polsce taka debata nie mogłaby się odbyć.
Sikorski: "Weimar triangle to save the Ukrainians". 2022 :)
Prof Andrzej Nowak o Sikorskim - "To cham i prostak który poniewiera słabszymi i liże buty silniejszym."
Prof Andrzej Nowak on Sikorski - "He's a boor and lout who kicks around the weak and licks the boots of the strong."
Radosław Sikorski powinien dostać głowną rolę w filmie "Zmiennicy" . Te "elity" po transformacji, to sfora zmienników czychających na posadę w kolejnych ugrupowaniach.
Andrzej Nowak has utterly demolished so called policy of foreign affairs pursued by Tusk and Sikorski.
Karierowicz zawodowy kontra patriota. Jak można mieć wątpliwości w starciu profesora z politykiem, składającym hołd innemu państwu (Berlin)...?
Kiedy sie to wydarzylo?
oszolom +/- listopad 2011
A brzmienie tego holdu to...?
so, 5 years on an we have the answer who was right.
Unfortunately many Ukrainians scarified their lives for that check.
Wystarczy zobaczyć twarz pana Sikorskiego po wystąpieniu pana profesora.
Sikorski is completely aware of critical things he has on his conscience. Easily visible to the naked eye.
Co ma na sumieniu Sikorski? Zamiast insynuacji kawa na ławę!
Still waiting for those 'critical things'...
oszolom
Sikorski - Kulczyk recorded conversation which was the reason he was dissmissed by PO's PM
Professor Andrzej Nowak AGAIN showed the strength of calm and factual approach while Mr. Sikorski still not aquired any sophistication. He is known in Poland for his butcherly style
Apparently we watched different debates...
oszolom
Really :-) ? Don't you notice the aggressive manner in Sikorski's style of communication?
I see, but pay more attention to arguments. I believe Mr Sikorski's indignation may be to some extent attributed to accusation of 'treason' (seen even in the comments here) and other propagandist, populist slogans used in the last campaign, eg. "Poland in ruin".
Sikorski went crazy after Nowak's response. Sorry, shouting 'conspiracy theory' doesn't convince anybody anymore. Especially since Nowak didn't mention anything about causes of the crash.
And 'making peace with Europe' seems to be working alright recently... I'm not a PiS fan, but Sikorski was a terrible minister...
He didn't but Mr. Kaczynski played this card successfully since 2010. This is rather prof. Nowak not responding to Sikorsky's references about PiS using conspiracy theory and hate speech in the last campaign and before. The same prof. Nowak was speaking about 'national consensus' Ridiculous :)
oszolom Hi again, what exactely you can quote as "hate speach" in this particular case you refer to?
Nikodem Dyzma in Cambridge! Guess which is Dyzma. LOL
Andrzej Nowak just nailed it down about flirting with the evil. The Method of dealing with Russia is... let it go bankrupt by over spending for this "constant carnival of proudness" and then deal with Russia like in 1985. But next time make sure it really changes.
russia cant go bankrupt its not in debt, by nonrussians, unlike poles that have debt on foreigners
Despite the evident antagonism, they actually tried to throw a bridge across the other side. Twice or thrice they admitted they do agree or that they have the same goals. I really appreciate it.
While at the same time the debate in Poland is nothing close to this format. They talk throught media, in which best interest is keeping the atmosphere hot as hell.
I wish we could have more of those debates.
Good afternoon, you've got the point, Sir. When was the last time Mr. Donald Tusk or one of other leaders of respective parties met with, say, Mr. Kaczyński in private, to talk and have a cup of coffee together? They should do it on a regular basis. This is the difference between the way Polish politicians act and UK's people in charge received practice of behaviour. It would seem the overwhelming inability to restrain their emotions and serve in best interest for the middle European country and its people bears tart fruit. I share your wish. A debate with Mr. Tusk and Mr. Jacek Bartosiak could be a proposal of an interesting meeting.
The civic platform and the left don't behave at home. So far from home they have to keep facades up.
@@zkrwiikosci spadaj na Onet ruską onuco! You don't have a cup of coffee with Putin's and Berlin's traitors...
In polish we say Prof. Nowak plowed him ;)
Ró,znica w poziomie duża- cóż za upadek p.Sikorskiego.
Mam wprost przeciwne odczucia - wydaje mi się że w każdym wystąpieniu górował na argumentacją prof. Nowaka.
Radek Sikorski: me, I, myself... Such high flying ego. And there is no substance behind it. Real R. Sikorski shows himself through "tapes of truth" from Sowa & Friends. Very eye opening experience. And still he has audacity to be seen publicly is beyond comprehension. No honour whatsoever. That what one would call "murzynstwo"
yeah, egomaniac
Wstyd mi, że taki człowiek jak Sikorski był w Polsce ministrem. Potrafi tylko obrażać. Profesor Nowak dobrze wytknął mu fakty a ten mu bluzga w odpowiedzi. Żenada.
Sikorski -empty phrases ,Nowak -hard facts
Rather the other way round, imho
oszolom Maybe .It depends of point of view: Sikorski presents Tusk's goverment point of view,Nowak presents polish point of view.
oszolom
Dear, I see you really like Mr Sikorski :-). It in not forbiden :-) What do you think about his opinion on Warsaw Uprising?
I don't know Mr. Sikorski personally, so it's not a question of liking or disliking him. What opinion are you referring to?
Nowak- wishful thinkung, Sikorski- realism
Sikorki is unhinged.
How come ? Explain ?
for a good reason cause I think he might finally get it how ridiculous his foreign policy towards Putins' Russia was
Ex foreign minister discrediting PL universities, president's role and prerogatives and Poland's voice in EU. What does he do in our politics still is more than alarming!
Debate starts at 11:38.
zdRadek bardzo zdenerwowany, ciekawe dlaczego?
Radek telepał się jak owad. :)
We remember "Succumb or you will all DIE" and we, me, my family, my neighbors prefer straight and united response to aggression like pres Lech Kaczyński. We are not rusophobic, but we will not be Chamberlains and Daladiers of xxi century either.
When poland produces food products of its own, they are of very good quality. Especially in the bio non gluten world and there own view of cafe and coffee shops are original inventive and fresh. Generally workers on the ground working in service type worlds, are more content working for there home grown countries. How this is in commerce I can not comment on. The new generation of workers need more motivation and profit incentives based on the sincerity their work.
Gładka gadka Pana Radka vs. konkrety prof.Nowaka
I would rather make debate with Sikorski's wife Anne. This would be more interesting. Sikorski is compromised by his political involvement in PiS and later PO.
But she has no interest in any kind of sovereign Poland's foreign policy...
Thank you!
no tusk is not Polish,he just speak Polish. ..!!
Ależ pani niemądra.
Proszę posłuchać Pana prof. Chodakiewicza i nie pleść bzdur w stylu orczyka.
Mr Sikorski, America First , bravo
Wow, Sikorski might have scored a little better in this had he admitted at least some errors in judgement that he had made during his presidency. Simply accusing 5he opponent of misquoting while he had all the papers in place to read from was below weak. Also Sikorki's argument that he had graduated from a better university than the professor had and therefore he Sikorski must be in the right was well, self-evident of him lacking the true arguments in this duel.
He wasn't president ever
@@jibbyjabs I meant during his service as a minister
23:10 "Dorżnąć watahe"
Obnażenie LESZCZA .Dzubasek ala POlsirwer
Sikorski comitted treason
Radek - Very bad and wrong person in polish policy and nice betrayer of polish interes for Superpowers playng such naive rather calculating person.
Tusk is a Kaszub. He once said that that Kaszuby should be independent and have its own currency and that being polish is not normal.
tusk jest niemiecka kurwa na zawolanie ,ruska onuca .
Sikorski dobrze punktuje zagrożenia dla Polski i słabości polityki PiS, ale sam był fatalny jak cały jego rząd. Prof Nowak którego osobiście bardzo cenię i czytam jego książki (Dzieje Polski) starał się jak mógł aby obronić słabiutką politykę tego klauna Waszczykowskiego i chyba dobrze o tym wie ale jakoś dał radę.
Niestety, nie ma u mnie dźwięku?!
sikorski is a warmonger.......
The Oxford vestibule can be compared with the Jagiellonian University?!, wow, only a clown can ...
TYYYY SZUB...OOOOO😂😂😂😂 ROSYJSKI 😂😂😂
Bigest problem isPIS criticizm of the west,and PIS do not understend E Union role,despote of staborn germańskim.
Trump 2020 because up yours world
Trump: Only 'stupid' people, fools oppose better Russia ties .
about missile shield , what about INT treaty ?
This film is a crystal clear display as of why it was Mr. Sikorski, not Mr. Nowak who worked for seven years as Polish Foreign Minister. I have to admit I hadn't known Mr. Andrzej Nowak is characterised with such narrow horison, apparently being completely rid of psychological factor in politics. His way of thinking is too strongly affected by fear of being 'used' by Russians and this effectively prevents him from seeing long-term consequences of actions, let alone giving the optimum advice. As a matter of fact, even assuming that Russia is so aggressive and imperial, Mr. Sikorski's way of getting around in diplomacy is by far more effective, safer and better not only for Poland but also for Russia, than the current policy now embodied by the Polish state and represented here by Mr. Nowak. Update 2023: Today, Jarosław Kaczyński, with his 50K payment to Ukraine's armed forces, apologized to Radosław Sikorski for calling him a 'diplomatic traitor' and this speaks for itself.
Excellent Radoslaw Sikorski. Conspiracy theory is not the way to implement Poland's foreign policy.
Mr Sikorski is right and has clear vision for a good future of Poland
No his is not. He was wrong from beginning. Now after full invasion is cristal clear.
Sikorski zaorał Nowaka :)
Nie, nie zaoral.
Have you understood that debate or is this just an expression of wishful thinking?
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@@pythagorasnine Yes, I understood
Nie mogę z tych komentarzy xD. Sikorski, jeden z najlepszych polityków i najlepszy MSZ Polski po 89' rozjeżdża merytorycznością Prof. Nowaka, a pisowcy fanatycy i tak twierdzą, że to "upadek Sikorskiego" xD.
najlepszy polityk no bo jebneeeee normalnie zaraz, to ten sam co prosił niemców aby przejeli władzę w Polsce? koleś jebnij się o ścianę to może zmądrzejesz ale nie gwarantuję.
@@MaHa-jf4qc Trzeba pzyznac ze twoja odpowiedz to jedyna mozliwa rozsadna na te zalosne bzdury od Atlasa.
Jeden z waszych najlepszych, tu zgoda. Mając to na uwadze nigdy nie stawajcie do debaty z gigantami intelektu i wtedy jakoś od biedy możecie wbijaç te wybitne głupoty w sformatowane mózgi poborejszowskie.
poland is just a big fat nationalist central bank scam. its an epedemic in whole of europe.
Nowak ględził a Sikorski mówił sensownie chociaż nerwowo czym wywołał złe wrażenie
Professor vs. gangster