2:48 "i prefer to go to the garage, i dont know mate put any tire you want. The last sector is imposible so even if you put a rocket ship we'll be 11th" -Fernando Alonso
@@SmellyDawg cus elite said "let me know what u think of them" for the new breakers so i think he just put it as a response (im a f1 fan and struggling to understand myself)
ye accel and engi is still better considering they dont rely on supports like mercenary base as much they have move placement limit cost much less and engi has mini stun immuniy on senrtys and flying detection
I always wanted more late-game tower options man. Engi and accel are all that we have while stuff like turret, ranger, and pursuit are more of support damage. I also kinda like how tds is making stuff op as long as it's fun and makes us use the tower more
Pursuit rework is mostlikely going to change that, and the recent buff makes ranger less of a sub dps and more of a main dps. 7 rangers all dealing over 1425 dmg (assuming it hits atleast 2 enemies) This update brought so much more options to the game.
Okay, after testing this on Molten myself, I an safely say that the Turret is the strongest tower in Tower Defense Simulator, and it's not even close, the Accelerator has a maximum DPS of 373, and has an overcharge, making the commander buff weaker on it, which means Accel has a max DPS of around 3000, maybe slightly higher, the Turret has a maximum DPS of 644, and has no such debuff, making Commander's Buff very powerful, meaning its maximum DPS is around 2,280, that's 8 > 3, and keep in mind that the Turret has a much larger range and it's also cheaper to get 3 max turrets than 8 max accelerators, so combine that with another DPS tower and you have one of the strongest DPS' in the game, keep in mind the Turret also has Lead Detection, I think it's safe to say that the Ranger is once again useless besides flying enemies with the lead modifier, and who knows? Maybe Turret will get flying detection one day, then the Ranger really will be useless
U should test it on fallen Saying a tower is the best in the game because its good on molten is like saying a 7 year old child is a genius because it knows how to write
(No commander buff, only the maximum dps they have on their own) Engineer’s max potential in solo is around 2880 DPS. Accelerator’s max potential in solo is around 2272 DPS. Turret’s maximum potential in solo is around 1290. Engineer costing 4500 Gems, it isn’t that hard but I would say it’s sort of worth it. 400 dps is good yes, but I think it should be buffed a bit more because you’re taking your sanity at risk to get this. I would say S Tier. Accelerator being my favorite. It has a DPS of 270 at max level while costing 2500 gems. He’s basically flawless and meta expect the shitty targeting. Not fully reliable, need other towers to be very good. Like commander’s boost gives a massive buff (idk exact dps), and something to deal with Accel’s terrible targeting. Turret, being one of the best towers now. 420 DPS alone is huge. Getting it at such a low level is huge considering it basically is Accelerator but better, expect for the placement limit, but you’k, gotta balance the game. My point here is that you get such a op tower at such a low level it’s insane.
cross bow turret skin finna be crazy from just shooting bows its stronger then a f***ing lazer and minigun sentry's with explosive power. while the turret only has arrows lol. (with the skin)
Ive been using turret eversince 2021 in the frost evasion, i was so happy and excited using it, since 2021 ive almost never had turret out of my hotbar, the only times i removed it was on act 1,2 and 3 in the solar eclipse event and on the duck event, it and sledger and farm have always been my top 3 but after the sledger nerf i lost all abitions and hope on tds When i got just now saw your video thumbnail i actually started crying, not even trying to lie or decept you i was crying, crys of joy, tears were on my cheeks, slowly decending down to the bed where my tears started dripping, i have quite littreally never been this happy in my life
i love sledger so much, since i first started playing in frost invasion, but damn did it need the nerf. A event tower shouldve never been the best freezing tower for like 2 years straight, i guess frost blaster took its place though.
Of all the updates and changes that came to the game over the the course of 4 months, this one change has brought me back into tds and actually let me enjoy the game because now it isn’t spamming accel or engi any more.
Lil turreto finally got his revenge after all those years of almost being forgotten now he’s sitting on the throne like a king 👑 ( I regret buying and accel and brawler )
Well it depends but my favourite its going to be golden minigunner, and if you have to say oooh paintballer, it will probably get reworked as most of the towers nowdays
with just dj+cmd+merc: buffed turret (all 3): 2250 dps, 35 range for 252k buffed accel (all 8): 3199 dps, 27 range for 352k with dj+cmd+merc+flags: buffed turret (all 3): 3359 dps, 40 range for 252k buffed accel (all 8): 3923 dps, 31 range for 352k turret: consistency, range, debuff immunity, price, space, uses up less of your total placement limit accel: dps now there are genuine reasons to use turret over accel, people say turret takes up too much space but 3 of them still takes up less space than 8 accels. it's debatable whether 3 max turrets is more effective than 8 max accels, though if you can't afford accels but can afford turrets turrets are certainly better
@@IvoryMooni exactly, turret has less placement required than accel, less space, and the upgrading price is about the same, AND, bigger range, AND, no charge up nor overheat
@@IvoryMooni I AGREE that turret IS good in multiplayer, because of placement limit. However, I DISAGREE you mentioning replacing the other 5 slots with g mini???? Excuse me?? 5 accels are STRONGER than 5 g minis
Actually, the turret's firerate (after being buffed by max commander's ability+merc base and not accounting for RoF bug) is 0.0896, the game just shortened it to 0.08 so its real dps is around 736.6, and not over 800. To put into perspective, in quad, the 12 turrets are going to deal ~8839 dps. 32 accelerators deal ~15623.86 dps. Also 24 engineers with turrets deal ~11063.6 dps. For the cost-efficiency, a plain max turret with no buffs is ~0.4, for engineer it's ~0.75, and for accel it's ~0.52 (dps/$100). But turrets do have things that made it unique like debuff immunity
@@tony8edits629 yeah, i think he should be obtainable for free again at some point, buuut hes an event tower, everytime you can get them again its through cash so... 🤷
Hey Elite have you tried the slasher changes? It's really good for early game single target wise and is pretty good late game against groups because of how cheap it is. It doesn't use the knife throw while in melee range, but you can set it on furthest to have both be used constantly. That's 24*3*3 per second on top of the regular dps at max level for a bit less than 20k! It feels like a good video idea for you to post yourself next to a spring slasher- oh wait...
While the new placement limit is rough and the cost efficiency isn't very good, I think turret is in a pretty neat spot right now. It has max engineer's DPS without needing to build up, massive range, no weird gimmicks and is immune to all types of debuffs. Would make for an excellent choice of sub dps.
Despite accel and engineer have more total dps, turret is free once you reach the level. It is a good option for people wanting a generalist late dps that doesn't occupy a lot of placement slots.
Yesterday I checked out golden solider's buff and boy was it in sane. Can't remember what lvl 0, 1 and 2 were but three and four were like "Increased burst 20/30"
oh my god, this is now I see the proper XWM turret of TDS, ngl, the buffers make it like look like a juggernaut at max level considering without buffs they grab 750 dps on bottom path, holy shit (currently jugger is buffed and it's possible to breach +1.5k dps with some buffers that make it insane for some good shredding work)
I think turret deserves this. It never made any sense that this massive, heavily armed turret of destruction did less damage than a person with a nailgun (I know that isn't all engi has, but cmon). The fact they reduced placement limit and upped its max upgrade cost doesn't make it OP, either
Dude then turret should be too op in duo or squads cuz like when u place down 3 turrets just leave replace it with smt and rejoin ( same as 8 farms ) and u could still upgrade them but...can’t place again after sell
@@Kyle_Reese That’s what I literally said. But, a level 50 tower should not have almost double the dps of the 2 hardest towers to get in the game. Crook is also reasonable for lvl 50 due to the rebalancing.
I'm not too much of a tds player but it surprised me that the strongest tower in here, buffed, bearly comes close to the strongest UNbuffed tower in tdX, and just all around seems more boring buggy and repetitive, not to upset any tds players but its just a weird gap between td games
Turret sure is strong, but it’s countered so hard by its 3 placement limit plus how expensive it is. You place down 3 of those turrets, max them out discount or not, you could’ve placed around 4-6 engineers, and the same amount for accel, and doing the math, 6 max engineers with 4 turrets per engineer is around 2.4k DPS, and accel is probably around like 1.8k idk, somewhere around that. 3 Turrets sure do 1.9k max, I’m pretty sure. But looking at the difference, it’s better using Engineer than turret for end game and having fully max, but sure turret can do some strong DPS at such a little stage, but it’s just too expensive. even golden mini is better.
engineer still best cause it has like everything splash fat firerate kinda high dmg shots flying detect lead detect hidden detect and sheilds so that one attack doesnt stop all of its dps
the placement limit being 3 kinda ruins it, if it had a placement limit of like 5 then it would be good, because no matter what its better to use accelerator or engineer lol
Accelerator been down in the dumps. The only true limiting factor is in its overcharge. 3600 might sound good enough, but thats only like 5 seconds to reach to a max powered acceletator and then hes gonna go through 3 seconds of reloading which severely hampens his abilities. I wanna buff accel so he has 4500 overcharge and him actually getting range buffs over levels, his reload mechanic gotta be top 10 worst things at this point i dont even use him outside of actual events or hardcore cause he always leaks the fast enemies
The strongest doesn't mean the best, but considering it's FREE for level 50... it's goated.
Yeah
honestly true
Epik
Welp now i Guess i will Always use turret in m'y games
nuh uh...
erhmmmm 👆🤓i think actually, the strongest tower is the "propellars ranger" although i'm not 100% sure i guess...
Hi propelrs
Is that the propellars from the propellars TH-cam channel
112 duodecillion dps 😎😎
This is a certified propellers ranger moment
Scientifically Accurate
Turret should be stun resistant
Wasn't it already stun ressistant ? I felt like I red it somewhere before in the update log
@@abahtani1371 That's tdx turret you are talking about
@@abahtani1371 yeah I think at one point it was
@@abahtani1371 it has that before
the dev removed it so no
Unless it’s Xr500 it should be stun res
2:48
"i prefer to go to the garage, i dont know mate put any tire you want. The last sector is imposible so even if you put a rocket ship we'll be 11th"
-Fernando Alonso
Dawg, what are you yapping about?
@@SmellyDawg cus elite said "let me know what u think of them" for the new breakers so i think he just put it as a response (im a f1 fan and struggling to understand myself)
Ok he pushed me off the track I think you have to leave a space. All the time you have to leave a space! Ok?! Understood?
-Fernando Alonso
Dog, wat ar yuo yaaping abuot?
Dawg, what the hell
"Man, turret is such an OP tower!"
The placement limit of 3: 🗿
The kidney you have to sell to afford it: 🗿
ye accel and engi is still better considering they dont rely on supports like mercenary base as much they have move placement limit cost much less and engi has mini stun immuniy on senrtys and flying detection
Worth it
also its fatass placement, it takes up soo much space bro. imo its still a mid tower and its cost to dps is mid
@@ngocnguyenamd923 accel and engi is still better though
@@ngocnguyenamd923 its not
I thought it was Executioner (old Elite animation reference)
Long time ago
Yes
Like tdx turret?
@@alejandroaguilar9698bro where did u get xwm turret from this is tds
@@alejandroaguilar9698this has nothing to do with tdx
Very great old turret that shoot strong bullet
-helper dialogue concept
Hah well, turret doesn't lie on him "Chewing Bosses"
turret chew boss like gugglebum yum - probably turret if it had a tts voice
I always wanted more late-game tower options man. Engi and accel are all that we have while stuff like turret, ranger, and pursuit are more of support damage. I also kinda like how tds is making stuff op as long as it's fun and makes us use the tower more
Pursuit rework is mostlikely going to change that, and the recent buff makes ranger less of a sub dps and more of a main dps. 7 rangers all dealing over 1425 dmg (assuming it hits atleast 2 enemies)
This update brought so much more options to the game.
Pursuit may get a rework
@@lobanoubm4234.May? IT’S ALREADY CONFIRMED!!!
Pursuit is lvl 100 tower it should be better than accel
@@sussy59 no, it should be on par, not better
there are still a significant amount of players who are lv 100 or more and not have accel
I like how they created the new skin for Brawler, then weeks later crucify him. This was their plan all along
Okay, after testing this on Molten myself, I an safely say that the Turret is the strongest tower in Tower Defense Simulator, and it's not even close, the Accelerator has a maximum DPS of 373, and has an overcharge, making the commander buff weaker on it, which means Accel has a max DPS of around 3000, maybe slightly higher, the Turret has a maximum DPS of 644, and has no such debuff, making Commander's Buff very powerful, meaning its maximum DPS is around 2,280, that's 8 > 3, and keep in mind that the Turret has a much larger range and it's also cheaper to get 3 max turrets than 8 max accelerators, so combine that with another DPS tower and you have one of the strongest DPS' in the game, keep in mind the Turret also has Lead Detection, I think it's safe to say that the Ranger is once again useless besides flying enemies with the lead modifier, and who knows? Maybe Turret will get flying detection one day, then the Ranger really will be useless
3 Max turrets every second dps is 2,475
While 8 max accelators is 3,333 dps
Just for more information details
@@rockypumpylink121 ty
U should test it on fallen
Saying a tower is the best in the game because its good on molten is like saying a 7 year old child is a genius because it knows how to write
@@justaplayer8629 Why don't you brother?
@@futureofgeographyaccel > turret debate me 🥱
This breaks logic in 2 ways. 1, how are bullets from a machine stronger than void energy? And 2. How is this stunned?!
(No commander buff, only the maximum dps they have on their own)
Engineer’s max potential in solo is around 2880 DPS.
Accelerator’s max potential in solo is around 2272 DPS.
Turret’s maximum potential in solo is around 1290.
Engineer costing 4500 Gems, it isn’t that hard but I would say it’s sort of worth it. 400 dps is good yes, but I think it should be buffed a bit more because you’re taking your sanity at risk to get this. I would say S Tier.
Accelerator being my favorite. It has a DPS of 270 at max level while costing 2500 gems. He’s basically flawless and meta expect the shitty targeting. Not fully reliable, need other towers to be very good. Like commander’s boost gives a massive buff (idk exact dps), and something to deal with Accel’s terrible targeting.
Turret, being one of the best towers now. 420 DPS alone is huge. Getting it at such a low level is huge considering it basically is Accelerator but better, expect for the placement limit, but you’k, gotta balance the game. My point here is that you get such a op tower at such a low level it’s insane.
not to mention that turret is also one of the only towers in the game to have the same appearance since 2019
Fun fact: SLASHER, yes, *SLASHER* got a pretty big buff this update…
Commando and swarmer when?
If its 4 limit, turret might be really getting into the meta
you know 3 turrets alone with all support have the same dps as 6 engis right?
@@Jakaynub erm WHAT THE....
3 turrets with all supports have 2376 DPS
3 turrets no dj costs 300k tho
Who cares, turret is 6th best dps tower, thats so bad
Turret be putting Up TDX Level DPS.
1100 dps no buff
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@@Teazues fr xwm
@@legonos i saw u on kev1n stream
ain't close
1100 dps with no buffs and a placement limit of 40 turret is nothing compared to xwm
cross bow turret skin finna be crazy from just shooting bows its stronger then a f***ing lazer and minigun sentry's with explosive power. while the turret only has arrows lol. (with the skin)
3:56 I don’t even know what to compare it to!
Ranger: Why must you ignore me father?
Imagine it's level now required 200 instead of 50
I’d rage if I hit 50 after the update
@@BallersAnimationswomp womp I am level 253 hehe
@@TheHattestStarmanwomp womp I don’t care
@@LucidHandle I explored the whole universe and saw nobody asked jackass
Womp womp im lvl 531
Actually the nerfed it recently and now it only does 430 DPS at max level
Ive been using turret eversince 2021 in the frost evasion, i was so happy and excited using it, since 2021 ive almost never had turret out of my hotbar, the only times i removed it was on act 1,2 and 3 in the solar eclipse event and on the duck event, it and sledger and farm have always been my top 3 but after the sledger nerf i lost all abitions and hope on tds
When i got just now saw your video thumbnail i actually started crying, not even trying to lie or decept you i was crying, crys of joy, tears were on my cheeks, slowly decending down to the bed where my tears started dripping, i have quite littreally never been this happy in my life
Ngl that was dramatic asl
i love sledger so much, since i first started playing in frost invasion, but damn did it need the nerf. A event tower shouldve never been the best freezing tower for like 2 years straight, i guess frost blaster took its place though.
tds is not that deep
@@mybugattigovroomvroom it is for me
you are glazing a virtual turret
Of all the updates and changes that came to the game over the the course of 4 months, this one change has brought me back into tds and actually let me enjoy the game because now it isn’t spamming accel or engi any more.
I’m convinced we’re living in an alternate timeline
FR
Turret finally became what it always should have been.
*_Boss Shredder_*
@iamyourmaster2565 frrrrrrrr
I mean turret before this buff was alright but like if you used commander he would do 45 damage every 0.11 seconds.
@@GreeomaniThat’s a bit worse then accel but turret has some insane range and it’s a level 50 tower
It can do 1.3k dps btw and it's better than FOURTEEN MINIS IN DPS AND COST EFFICENCY
Lil turreto finally got his revenge after all those years of almost being forgotten now he’s sitting on the throne like a king 👑 ( I regret buying and accel and brawler )
12 cowboys 3 commanders 1 dj 3 turrets and 1 mercernary base = 20 towers
Well it depends but my favourite its going to be golden minigunner, and if you have to say oooh paintballer, it will probably get reworked as most of the towers nowdays
ALSO WHY ARE YOU AWAKE????
I love that the moment it ever shows any resemblance of being even just okay it gets nerfed into the ground the next day
paintballer got nerfed real bad
The "shoots extremely strong bullets and chews bosses" seems to be true now
with just dj+cmd+merc:
buffed turret (all 3): 2250 dps, 35 range for 252k
buffed accel (all 8): 3199 dps, 27 range for 352k
with dj+cmd+merc+flags:
buffed turret (all 3): 3359 dps, 40 range for 252k
buffed accel (all 8): 3923 dps, 31 range for 352k
turret: consistency, range, debuff immunity, price, space, uses up less of your total placement limit
accel: dps
now there are genuine reasons to use turret over accel, people say turret takes up too much space but 3 of them still takes up less space than 8 accels. it's debatable whether 3 max turrets is more effective than 8 max accels, though if you can't afford accels but can afford turrets turrets are certainly better
Turret has the highest dps, but the placement limit hold it back
I mean, 1380+ DPS for 3 towers is just insane
@@IvoryMooni exactly, turret has less placement required than accel, less space, and the upgrading price is about the same, AND, bigger range, AND, no charge up nor overheat
@@IvoryMooni 5 g minis are only as strong as like 2 accels, so that's a no no, unless you want consistent damage
@@IvoryMooni I AGREE that turret IS good in multiplayer, because of placement limit. However, I DISAGREE you mentioning replacing the other 5 slots with g mini???? Excuse me?? 5 accels are STRONGER than 5 g minis
@@IvoryMooni totally agree
the new breakers are awesome, love the new animations of everything, great job to the devs
"Fallen has flying enemies"
Mecenary base who has riflemen with flying detection: so do i just not exist to you?
The turret without any buffs haves 429.7 dps which is the highest dps in the god damn game
nobody noticed the fact that he learned yapanese from wika to make a 8:01 min long vid
Actually, the turret's firerate (after being buffed by max commander's ability+merc base and not accounting for RoF bug) is 0.0896, the game just shortened it to 0.08 so its real dps is around 736.6, and not over 800. To put into perspective, in quad, the 12 turrets are going to deal ~8839 dps. 32 accelerators deal ~15623.86 dps. Also 24 engineers with turrets deal ~11063.6 dps. For the cost-efficiency, a plain max turret with no buffs is ~0.4, for engineer it's ~0.75, and for accel it's ~0.52 (dps/$100). But turrets do have things that made it unique like debuff immunity
slasher is kinda op now too
not op but pretty good as a tower, i like that they made it unique in a way that it also acts like a ranged tower with a mix of crowd control too!
Sad that he's an event tower, if he was an intermediate tower he would be morely used
@@tony8edits629 yeah, i think he should be obtainable for free again at some point, buuut hes an event tower, everytime you can get them again its through cash so... 🤷
21 DPS to 80 DPS for only 11k is such a glow up.
Hey Elite have you tried the slasher changes? It's really good for early game single target wise and is pretty good late game against groups because of how cheap it is. It doesn't use the knife throw while in melee range, but you can set it on furthest to have both be used constantly. That's 24*3*3 per second on top of the regular dps at max level for a bit less than 20k! It feels like a good video idea for you to post yourself next to a spring slasher- oh wait...
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While the new placement limit is rough and the cost efficiency isn't very good, I think turret is in a pretty neat spot right now. It has max engineer's DPS without needing to build up, massive range, no weird gimmicks and is immune to all types of debuffs. Would make for an excellent choice of sub dps.
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@@Blz-oxThe Demoman !
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Despite accel and engineer have more total dps, turret is free once you reach the level. It is a good option for people wanting a generalist late dps that doesn't occupy a lot of placement slots.
Turret got insane buff 429 dps.... Without commander..
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not a buff, it still sucks
turret is very expensive for it big dps
@@pattifry7742 GET OUT
do you want to tell me that i can unlock this turret at level 50?
@@pattifry7742 it doesnt take a lifetime to get like the hardcore towers
better for f2ps
I never expected turret getting a big buff
How how how
"I DON'T KNOW"
cus it costs 100k and has 3 placement limitc
cus it costs 100k and has 3 placement limitc
cus it costs 100k and has 3 placement limitc
It's an anti air turret
It has over 400 DPS not buffed the problem is it costs 20 kidney's
I thought Turret was bad now after the update.
Guess I was wrong.
With flags it can do over 1k dps btw
Yesterday I checked out golden solider's buff and boy was it in sane. Can't remember what lvl 0, 1 and 2 were but three and four were like "Increased burst 20/30"
Finally a LONG deserved BUFF!!! Turret became a accel without the charge. I love that both my favorite towers got buffed (Ranger, Turret)
Good if u wanna play Wasteland u can bring farm and 4 high dps towers
Turret is (also) my favorite ever since it came out, I love the idea of a Powerful Mounted Turret
And omg the XR500 skin, it's perfect!
Mercenary base can get loads of DPS from a big stack of riflemen, although this can be really inconsistent. So... yeah!
Only requirement for turret is being lvl 50 and its almost as good as hardcore towers thats just honestly crazy
living up to it's description of chewing through bosses
Yeah lol
The july-August turret : fuck those bosses
September turret : HEEELLLL YEAAAAHHHHHHHHH, MORE DAMAAGGEEEEEEE
oh my god, this is now I see the proper XWM turret of TDS, ngl, the buffers make it like look like a juggernaut at max level considering without buffs they grab 750 dps on bottom path, holy shit (currently jugger is buffed and it's possible to breach +1.5k dps with some buffers that make it insane for some good shredding work)
They should make a elite turret skin
If you add in a damage and firerate flag, turret can reach 1250+ dps
Now thinking about this. DJ might actually get a buff. Cuz 100k for Turret’s max level is crazy.
dont forget you can buff it even more with the utlity flags
don't forget you can buff it EVEN FURTHER with firerate damage and range flag
I can see this a good combo with the triple flags ( range, cooldown and damage) along with UAV
It’s now a worth opponent for accel and engi as it is a more pricey option but it somehow is more space efficient and has a much longer range
It does have the highest dps per unit but the sheer cost and low placement makes it worse than accel or engi.
Tbh they should remodel the turrets old skin, its already fine so no need to rework all stats
I think turret deserves this. It never made any sense that this massive, heavily armed turret of destruction did less damage than a person with a nailgun (I know that isn't all engi has, but cmon). The fact they reduced placement limit and upped its max upgrade cost doesn't make it OP, either
breakers got that "yippieee!" ahh animation 😭
Dude then turret should be too op in duo or squads cuz like when u place down 3 turrets just leave replace it with smt and rejoin ( same as 8 farms ) and u could still upgrade them but...can’t place again after sell
Turret's design needs a rework. IT is soo outdated and would need a glowup.
Turret is now officially a tdx level tower
They need to put crook boss at lvl 50, and move turret to 200
i disagree, and turret and crook boss isnt so strong they need to be moved up in level unlock
@@Kyle_Reese That’s what I literally said. But, a level 50 tower should not have almost double the dps of the 2 hardest towers to get in the game. Crook is also reasonable for lvl 50 due to the rebalancing.
I'm not too much of a tds player but it surprised me that the strongest tower in here, buffed, bearly comes close to the strongest UNbuffed tower in tdX, and just all around seems more boring buggy and repetitive, not to upset any tds players but its just a weird gap between td games
imagine turret having flight detection, the ultimate tower to rule them all
you should try critical tower defense its a fun game
i just did some math and 12 times 700 is 8400 so basically you could get 8000-8500 dps with 12 turrets
Me: Hey fallen king!
Fallen king: what peasant
Me: I got turret
Fallen king: Hey man we can talk about this…
Turret sure is strong, but it’s countered so hard by its 3 placement limit plus how expensive it is. You place down 3 of those turrets, max them out discount or not, you could’ve placed around 4-6 engineers, and the same amount for accel, and doing the math, 6 max engineers with 4 turrets per engineer is around 2.4k DPS, and accel is probably around like 1.8k idk, somewhere around that. 3 Turrets sure do 1.9k max, I’m pretty sure. But looking at the difference, it’s better using Engineer than turret for end game and having fully max, but sure turret can do some strong DPS at such a little stage, but it’s just too expensive. even golden mini is better.
engineer still best cause it has like everything splash fat firerate kinda high dmg shots flying detect lead detect hidden detect and sheilds so that one attack doesnt stop all of its dps
also has a max limit decreased to only 3 rather than 5 before
strongest loadout (and pretty cheap)
Hunter (120+ DPS now i think), Turret, Farm, DJ (Turret is TOO expensive, and for farms too) and Commander.
Lol I actually use the rebalance turret i didnt think about it much but when you said about the dps of 675 i literally Shock so much lol
turret is now offically minigunner 2.0
the placement limit being 3 kinda ruins it, if it had a placement limit of like 5 then it would be good, because no matter what its better to use accelerator or engineer lol
I would use it as a secondary defense considering its placement limit.
Only people that got Merc base when it released cause they were over lvl 150 when it came out
I think engi is better because it has early, splash, placement of 6, and. Cheaper but turret is still an insane tower
The turret rework only made it easier to win hardcore for f2p players
its like you could p2w tbh
TDS Turret is now like TDX Turret
But it should now be the level 100 or Level 75 Tower
Accelerator been down in the dumps. The only true limiting factor is in its overcharge. 3600 might sound good enough, but thats only like 5 seconds to reach to a max powered acceletator and then hes gonna go through 3 seconds of reloading which severely hampens his abilities. I wanna buff accel so he has 4500 overcharge and him actually getting range buffs over levels, his reload mechanic gotta be top 10 worst things at this point i dont even use him outside of actual events or hardcore cause he always leaks the fast enemies
He's fine the way he is please stop dawg 💀.
If tds had 8 player mega servers still you could squeeze out 19,800 damage from them
Its now better for people that have just reached lvl 50 and don't have naything else powerful
i love the new animations for breakers
Max turret with dj, commander, nerf base, all flags and wug would be op
I wanna know, (pls keep your own respective opinions) whats better: Pure dps towers or cost efficient towers
Turret has a DPS of 550 and about 700 with merc base and commander
You're telling me i grinded over 50+ hours to get accel and enginner JUST for it to get overpowered by a lv 50 tower
Tbh i was expecting for the turret to be the strongest unit in the game
I actually solo fallen with Turret and other towers and honestly it helped a lot on the Tank and The Fallen king
Engineer and Accel are still better, they have way better placement and lower cost. Especially if you combine the two they will become unstoppable
I HAVE BEEN USING UR STAR CODE AS YOU WERE MY FIRST TDS TH-cam I LOVE