Logan Stieber vs. Tony Ramos: 2013 NCAA title match (133 lbs.)

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  • Ohio State's Logan Stieber defeated Iowa's Tony Ramos in this 2013 NCAA wrestling championship match at 133 pounds to secure his second of four straight individual titles. Watch the full title match here.
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  • @alexd2555
    @alexd2555 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wrestled Logan in high school, he was the best wrestler I’ve ever faced by a long shot. Great to see how much he’s accomplished in college. Dudes a beast.

  • @michaelgorogianis8571
    @michaelgorogianis8571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Tony had the near fall

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    2 backs for sure
    But man is Logan strong. Ramos had the chin & you could see the power Stieber had not to be taken down again
    Great match

  • @mikejay1385
    @mikejay1385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Just to clarify a few things, im an ohio state fan, (logan has even stayed at my house). And despite that potential bias I still believe tony got 2 backs, regardless it wouldn't have changed the final result. And for those who say he was pinned, in all divisions of folkstyle wrestling, the shoulder blades must be flat for a 2 count, they clearly were not. Any hope that helps, have a blessed day!

    • @pocketssmith5933
      @pocketssmith5933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grew up wrestling with Tony in Illinois, and I agree with everything you just said.

    • @i_dont_hug_koalas
      @i_dont_hug_koalas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was very close to a pin though. But yea def two backs n logan is the homie... What u think about the last second controversial no call his 1st title

    • @jeffdarnell7942
      @jeffdarnell7942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never realized it before, but he did..had a 2 count AFTER holding him there.

    • @meatazzsandwich
      @meatazzsandwich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You dont know how the rest plsys out if Ramos is awarded the 2.

    • @Th3Chuzzl3r
      @Th3Chuzzl3r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ramos had 2 near fall and Oliver should of had 2 takedown

  • @BURNOUT3272
    @BURNOUT3272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    That was for sure two back points 7:45

    • @fredoflores5731
      @fredoflores5731 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No doubt

    • @BURNOUT3272
      @BURNOUT3272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nathanael David but he didn’t win lol

    • @jomama969
      @jomama969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can hear Brands yell “ you son of a bitch” as he’s running up the the mat lmao

    • @kineticsage8137
      @kineticsage8137 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @nathanaeldavid6238 No, match changes dynamics when there is back points awarded, as they should have been, and no breaks for the wrestlers. Emotions, tight match

  • @ianshue2890
    @ianshue2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Logan Steiber, one of 4 4x NCAA champions. I wonder who’s gonna win?

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s good to watch them back for when your bored and just wanna watch some old wrestling.

    • @ianshue2890
      @ianshue2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Xenonmaster 666 yeah that’s why I watched this match. But it’s just like watching a Rocky Marciano match. Rocky Marciano is widely known as the only undefeated heavyweight champion, so you know he’s gonna win, but you watch him for entertainment or for lessons on boxing. That’s kinda how it is here

    • @michaelgorogianis8571
      @michaelgorogianis8571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tony had the near fall

    • @ianshue2890
      @ianshue2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelgorogianis8571 Yeah, I’ll admit he probably should’ve got near fall, but I don’t know if it would’ve been enough to win

    • @michaelgorogianis8571
      @michaelgorogianis8571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ianshue2890 it would have changed the dynamic of the match

  • @jjmarcos
    @jjmarcos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @6:28 "YOU SON OF A BITCH!" haha, we agree coach, we agree.

  • @Ur2ez4me81
    @Ur2ez4me81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The interviewer should have asked Steiber how does it feel to have the refs win you two ncaa wrestling championships 😂

  • @mariofreak9660
    @mariofreak9660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Stieber lost two finals, this and against Oliver. I consider Stieber an excellent wrestler but he lost this one and the other where, bizarrely, Oliver didn't get the take down. I don't even like OK. State, but I remember yelling at the screen at the ref, "what are you waiting for?" That was an easy takedown call for Oliver. He got robbed horribly, the worst call in NCAA finals ever.

    • @mariofreak9660
      @mariofreak9660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To clarify, he was pinned clearly. It's a quicker call than in HS, and be is clearly flat and done at 7:45. Ramos should have been a two-time champion.

    • @osubuckeyes1332
      @osubuckeyes1332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mariofreak9660 As much as I like Ramos and his energy, he did lose this match. That pin call wasn’t really in the question and while the backs were definitely there, Stieber still would have won.

    • @Sajidov3
      @Sajidov3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Ramos got 2 NF here (these were clearer imo than the ones Ramos got against Graff in the finals the following year), but you can't say for sure Ramos would have won. I still think Stieber would have had the advantage.
      But the Oliver non-call was downright criminal. As someone who had no dog in that fight, it was a blown call of epic proportions.

  • @22jchavez
    @22jchavez ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy match! I can’t believe these coaches didn’t tell the interviewer to F off haha

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for uploading all of these
    We greatly missed the Tournament last year

  • @LivingLikeLu
    @LivingLikeLu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just honestly can’t believe out of all the talent that has come through collegiate D1 wrestling...Logan Stieber is a 4 timer...David Taylor, IMAR, Nolf, Bo Nickal, V. Joseph, Burroughs, Dierenger (to name a few) all had the caliber and dedication to be 4 timers yet they’re NOT! Like you see something like this kind of a title as the pinnacle of collegiate D1 wrestlers and you put THIS guy in that prestigious group??? It just doesn’t make sense man...personal opinion of course.

    • @sabrewolf9567
      @sabrewolf9567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya he definitely stands out in the 4 timer group and not in a good way.

    • @Seuspesos
      @Seuspesos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Y’all sleepin on the work he did in freestyle too he has 61kg wins over beka lomtadze and Benham eshanpour and at 65kg had great matches with Chamizo and Romanov, Logan was low key world class up under everyone nose

    • @Ur2ez4me81
      @Ur2ez4me81 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well let’s see technically they robbed Oliver & robbed Ramos so…

    • @thesneakygamer4343
      @thesneakygamer4343 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ur2ez4me81 Ramos would have lost in the end but JO definitely was robbed. Logan was still extremely dominant, he was putting up retherford like numbers. However, he was a tweener in terms of weight and his style just didn’t translate as well to the international level.

  • @MAMP
    @MAMP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Brands' face at 6:00

  • @joelknutson4002
    @joelknutson4002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Back points, hell, Stieber was pinned. I’ll never forget this match.

    • @sirisaacnewtonstan
      @sirisaacnewtonstan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I genuinely don’t understand thinking he was pinned. Near fall points yes. Pin? Absolutely not.

    • @mikejay1385
      @mikejay1385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kieran McGuire 1 second is not collegiate, one second is freestyle or greco, in no folkstyle division is 1 second a pin. And incase you want some credentials im a D1 commit as of this year. Still though I love how peaceful and calm your discussion was, god bless!

    • @cornprices1718
      @cornprices1718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikejay1385 Art. 1. Fall. A fall occurs when any part of both shoulders or part of both
      scapulae of either wrestler is held in contact with the mat for *one second.* The
      one-second count (one-thousand-one) shall be a silent count by the referee
      and shall start only after the referee is in position to observe that a fall is
      imminent. (See Table 4.11.1.)
      From the NCAA wrestling rulebook.
      Perhaps you should maybe read it if you're a D1 commit, no?

    • @andreantoine9702
      @andreantoine9702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was looking for this comment, Steiber got some much luck in 3 of his titles. No one may ever get as lucky as he was in NCAA wrestling ever again.

  • @kevinjang8209
    @kevinjang8209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steiner and Ramos are going to be great head coaches someday

  • @AmericaHasFallin
    @AmericaHasFallin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not giving him the near fall gave Stieber all the momentum you could see it on his face that was 2

  • @roberthurst4035
    @roberthurst4035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a Ramos pin but he should’ve been awarded back points!

  • @thesoccertrotter1
    @thesoccertrotter1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:06 Logan was basically pinned

  • @chrisjuhl9979
    @chrisjuhl9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was back points for IOWA when the ohio state got the crapped kicked out of them in KINNICK 55-24

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Tony Ramos’s National Championship win on TH-cam? I can’t find his win anywhere and it would be nice to see after his opening interview

  • @rickemery7186
    @rickemery7186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see now where Gilman got his tactics.

  • @user-ye7vk8qy7c
    @user-ye7vk8qy7c 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    was definitely a 2 count and would have definitely made a difference

  • @gmoney113
    @gmoney113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% 2 points, 100% NOT A PIN

  • @giawoodell3996
    @giawoodell3996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let Tom talk about beating Steiber and Jordan Oliver beating Steiber. Pitiful refs everywhere, Joe Woodell

  • @natestakely1478
    @natestakely1478 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna know where Ramos/Stieber Carver Hawkeye arena is???? “Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the match without the Hawkeye wrestlings consent is prohibited.” ??????????

  • @arnolddonaldson7129
    @arnolddonaldson7129 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a one and a half count. Needed a two. Should be no controversy with this. For those clamoring for a pin- pins in the NCAA tournament normally are not called quickly.

  • @HunterClark-zl4yt
    @HunterClark-zl4yt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That interviewer is horrible

  • @jeffdarnell7942
    @jeffdarnell7942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't realize it WAS a 2 count, but it was!!

  • @spiritualthoughts6054
    @spiritualthoughts6054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only who can’t believe they actually interviewed the coaches during a freaking challenge? I’m surprised neither of them shoved that mic down dudes throat

  • @meatazzsandwich
    @meatazzsandwich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Refs blew it x2. First, they missed the pin. Stieber was flat on his back. Then, they missed the back points.

  • @andizzyJD12
    @andizzyJD12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stieber was incredible. 3x NCAA champion. Just like Jordan Oliver won 3 national titles.

    • @landobaggins4023
      @landobaggins4023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      stieber won 4

    • @andizzyJD12
      @andizzyJD12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@landobaggins4023 I know he got his arm raised 4 times. But I’m saying that both he and Jordan Oliver won 3 national titles. LOL

    • @bradystafford7654
      @bradystafford7654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andizzyJD12 Jordan Oliver won 2

  • @joewillwin3097
    @joewillwin3097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ramos should’ve tried a cradle at the end.....

  • @wrstling1
    @wrstling1 ปีที่แล้ว

    definitely was 2 nearfall

  • @xzjayz7925
    @xzjayz7925 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn Refs back in the day were ASS

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Brands are absolutely the best
    I mean who else would you want in your sons corner? Who else would have their back like them? I mean just look at Terry’s face when he’s on the Ref about the back points

    • @johndavidson815
      @johndavidson815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Brands brothers are elite and some of the best out there but it seems like they feed the hot hand. Ramos was the guy, then Dan Denis came along and it seemed like the Brands’ brushed Ramos aside. Then Gilman was the guy, then Gilman left for PSU/NLWC because Spencer Lee became the guy. I cannot speak all that poorly of the Brands’ as they represent Iowa very well, they produce great talent and I don’t see any of the behind the scenes info. I can only go off of what the wrestlers speak of in interviews. There is a trend that past wrestlers feel as though the Brands’ do indeed feed the hot hand. When the Brands’, specifically Tom, are asked about this kind of stuff happening they tend to avoid the topic.

  • @Lilzo2.7
    @Lilzo2.7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blessings

  • @trentondillon244
    @trentondillon244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Robbed of 2 back points.