@@bloodtypeinfinity5143if you consider how much heat these datacenters produce, and the power of aggregates if enough datacenters are deployed, then yes there is going to be an impact - rules of thermodynamics are in fact a thing ...
@@ElGrecoDaGeek there's 321 MILLION CUBIC MILES of water in the ocean, and water is a notoriously effective heat sink. We will never produce enough waste heat from data centers to make a significant difference.
I was very intrigued by this project when it was announced and recovered. Interested to get more info on the data they gathered, like any side effects from the operation of these data centres.
Bruh thats like saying putting a single ice cube in an olmpic pool will freeze the whole pool and not even closee to the actual scale of their "data centre" in the ocean... plus theyd never even consider putting it on glaciers thats just dumb jn every way and melting the ice is the LAST dumb reason 😂
The underwater data centers are for tests of zero tolerance insurance and reliance. So, when they break because of small sounds or repetitive sounds; the zero tolerance insurance becomes unidentifiable like they were a connection fully lost. Thus, the design of the program and process of making underwater data centers is like an insurance test. Therefore, when people do things like travel on property that they are not allowed to be on, the underwater data centers breaks. Many may not notice the effects of how much changes when the zero tolerance insurance becomes unidentifiable but the people who know knew how much work and how many real risks went into the procedure. When technology specialists find limitations that proves they need underwater data centers as well as a zero tolerance insurance agreement being upheld, they see that it's a root system that explains the common sense about why it requires a lot more than anything considered common due to how fragile the business really is.
@@empty9360 what about the climate change grift, we are told our oceans are becoming to hot due to climate change Meanwhile they want to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea :/ yeah abit sus & hypocritical
I'm worried a lot more about the unintended effect they may have on the biotopes they're anchored in - or would it be negligible temperature increases?
@@alkischrysanthopoulos5712 that was my train of thought also. Another “great idea,” the consequences of which will become apparent with time. We don’t exactly have a good track record with stuff like this.
You have more chances on heating an outdoor olimpic pool in winter with a kettle than making any difference with this underwater server farm in the ocean
@@dklgdveje of course globally it wouldn't make a difference, but if I know anything about marine life, it's that its sensitive to the smallest changes in things like temperature and PH
@@filipelimartinsif you consider how much heat these datacenters produce, and the power of aggregates if enough datacenters are deployed, then yes there is going to be an impact - rules of thermodynamics are in fact a thing ...
@@Gojoe107 what about so called climate change,we are constantly told our oceans are becoming to hot... meanwhile it's okay to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea. .... yeah bill Gates please lecture me about climate change whilst you do what you do.
@louk597 is that a serious comment? The heat output of one of these is nothing in comparison to the mass of the ocean. Even if we moved all the data centres currently active into the ocean, it wouldn't be a blip. Plus the amount of energy saved by not having to cool data centres and the associated reduction in carbon emissions would outweigh any negative impact.
The test unit was built with redunndency in mind, if a server failed there was a backup on standby. I believe in the initial reports about this experiment it was stated that there would be maintenance cycles, they would be lifted from the sea floor every few years and go for upgrades or whatever.
@@frainy345 typical lefty logic not taking into account that if it becomes the trend & more & more & more of them end up in the ocean & as with life some will leak & others will become lost & destroyed + won't be able to inspect server's & again not to mention the electric messing with the fishes senses
Guys, is the ocean! 70% of Earth surface! It's a bit hard for us to warm it with this! even if you build a lot of them in the same place the impact would be minimal or non existent!
Can someone explain the nitrogen purge / filling? No oxygen : prevention of some silicon component oxidation? What hardware part ever gets degraded / decayed does to O2?
Because it's a stupid idea considering they've been telling us the ocean are becoming to hot due to Man made climate change Meanwhile it's ok to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea....
Its still experimental. It has a lot of downsides and theyre not sure if it outweighs the benefits. Yes the components may last longer, but if something does happen to break and needs replacing you can imagine how expensive that is. Tech also moves fast and components turn outdated quick, so maintenance is more than just fixing the broken things, its renewing hardware. I dont have any data, but a server station on a shore pumping in water for cooling instead might turn out the best of both worlds
Wouldn't you be able to do the same thing but easier by just pumping the water on shore and provide cooling that way. Little cost for the power. Seems awfully complicated and radical. It's like move to Mars earth is dying.😂😂
Lol people think this would warm the ocean hahahaha be more worried about your cars and electricity that you compsume of burnig carbons, this wouldnt warm nothing my fellas.
No no no, whilst the nitrogen purging side effect was nice, why not use the heat energy for something? Place it near a northern cool city, cool it with heat pumps and supply heated water to buildings.
So we are told the ocean are becoming to hot due to climate change Meanwhile it's fine to stick a bunch of boiling hot computer servers under the Sea... I'm sure the electric humming won't be confusing the fish either.
Compare this to a data center in somewhere hot, where air conditioning needs to run constantly. The coal or natural gas burned to power those systems is many times more relevant than the heat caused by the electronics themselves.
...with electricity from a cable? There are a lot of reasonable questions you can ask, but this is the easiest question to figure out yourself. Both data and electricity are routinely transmitted by undersea cable all around the world. In fact, the vast majority of "the internet" is underwater, and all the islands and major peninsulae of Europe as well as most of North Africa are connected to the same pan-European power grid via underwater cable.
Because you need data centers close to where people use them. And especially were data cables connect. Which is either right on the coast, or in this case, right off the coast. Just took up the current locations of data centers and you'll see a pattern.
@@Pimmeeuh It's not a bad point though. Cable laying is a considerable expense but quite manageable while a/c costs & demand are only going up. What about the north of scandinavia fo example. And how is Iceland connected to the net? Canada?
If the ocean ever got hot, it might just evaporate and precipitate to cool itself back down. Do people think that heat is permanent? Not only is heat transient, but water basically destroys it. The convection alone would be enough kinetic force to cool itself. It wouldn't even need to evaporate. Heat doesnt just disperse, it also can be converted into kinetic energy, ie evaporation.
8 times more reliable? So you are saying that microsoft users have been using equipment that is 8 times less reliable all these years?? I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT!! I SWITCHED TO LINUX BASED MACHINES A DECADE AGO!!
Sure, taken on its own it's nothing. But that's not the point... Energy is neither created or destroyed, only converted, in this case into warming water. Yes it is negligible but it adds up. If you consider how much heat these datacenters produce, and the power of aggregates if enough datacenters are deployed, then yes there is going to be an impact - rules of thermodynamics are in fact a thing ... The key is aggregation. Taken on its own, you're right, it gets overshadowed by the the overall climate and size of the oceans, but in aggregate and coupled with already warming oceans it will have an impact over time, especially as surface ocean temperature rises. H😮ot water/air rises so that effectively becomes the top layer of the ocean surface and that is the key metric impacting shallow water reefs and associated biomes. Coral and fish die off which we're already seeing globally. So before you point the finger at your so-called experts, consider the wider picture.
So do you want to generate more CO2 with powered cooling of a data centre. Or do you want to put your data centre in a cool place so you don’t have too. 😂
Love your content buy why your not I movie star is beyond me. You need better representation. Yes yes I saw you were in 4 movies ( IMDb ) but still at least voiceovers.
Great! Heat up the oceans for data collection. I’m sure the destruction of all the wildlife in the oceans, which we largely haven’t explored but have discovered some have cures for our diseases will be worth it just so that we have Joe’s spreadsheet about the Christmas party from 2006 is in water cooled data storage for future generations to marvel at.
Only Microsoft can pull off the unthinkable: putting the cloud under the sea.
“The cloud” in fact is not where the name would suggest. It’s mostly underground and some is in the ocean! The more you know eh 😊
That's the joke😂
@@Raysomesavesomeyou must be fun at parties
The next Mission Impossible movie should feature this
Mission impossible 8 it's going to be something like this
Technically Rogue Nation had this already
They did something way cooler already in a watercooled data center
8 times more efficiency is actually crazy
so Microsoft is warming the oceans?
You're kidding, right?
😂
@@bloodtypeinfinity5143if you consider how much heat these datacenters produce, and the power of aggregates if enough datacenters are deployed, then yes there is going to be an impact - rules of thermodynamics are in fact a thing ...
@@ElGrecoDaGeek there's 321 MILLION CUBIC MILES of water in the ocean, and water is a notoriously effective heat sink. We will never produce enough waste heat from data centers to make a significant difference.
Technically yes, why don't they take it to icy landscape?
Arrr, me hearties! Avast! We've stumbled upon a treasure trove - a Microsoft data center adrift in Davy Jones' locker! Yo-ho-ho!
I was very intrigued by this project when it was announced and recovered. Interested to get more info on the data they gathered, like any side effects from the operation of these data centres.
Bad idea imagine the fishes spying on our data🤔
So the sysadmins need to wear scuba gear now?
Next they'll be putting data center on the glaciers to help them melt faster! 😮
Bruh thats like saying putting a single ice cube in an olmpic pool will freeze the whole pool and not even closee to the actual scale of their "data centre" in the ocean... plus theyd never even consider putting it on glaciers thats just dumb jn every way and melting the ice is the LAST dumb reason 😂
The underwater data centers are for tests of zero tolerance insurance and reliance. So, when they break because of small sounds or repetitive sounds; the zero tolerance insurance becomes unidentifiable like they were a connection fully lost. Thus, the design of the program and process of making underwater data centers is like an insurance test. Therefore, when people do things like travel on property that they are not allowed to be on, the underwater data centers breaks. Many may not notice the effects of how much changes when the zero tolerance insurance becomes unidentifiable but the people who know knew how much work and how many real risks went into the procedure. When technology specialists find limitations that proves they need underwater data centers as well as a zero tolerance insurance agreement being upheld, they see that it's a root system that explains the common sense about why it requires a lot more than anything considered common due to how fragile the business really is.
Storing data underwater? Not sus at all!
Not really storing data underwater. More like processing data underwater. Even in the event of an leak no or only a tiny bit of data will be lost.
@@empty9360 what about the climate change grift, we are told our oceans are becoming to hot due to climate change Meanwhile they want to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea :/ yeah abit sus & hypocritical
Hmm. Any chance enough of these could be built to maintain coastal ocean temperatures around the UK if the Gulf Stream fails?
oft... that'd be an absolute monstrosity of a server farm, no way that'd be possible.
I'm worried a lot more about the unintended effect they may have on the biotopes they're anchored in - or would it be negligible temperature increases?
@@alkischrysanthopoulos5712 that was my train of thought also. Another “great idea,” the consequences of which will become apparent with time. We don’t exactly have a good track record with stuff like this.
You have more chances on heating an outdoor olimpic pool in winter with a kettle than making any difference with this underwater server farm in the ocean
@@dklgdveje of course globally it wouldn't make a difference, but if I know anything about marine life, it's that its sensitive to the smallest changes in things like temperature and PH
Data centers with site visits not possible?
FUN FACT,,, theyre still looking for Nessy
Nessie
@@Jay-mh8mywhose that???
You are not just cooling Data center but heating up the ocean 😂😂😂
Good video, doesn't do justice to how massive that thing actually is.
Not sure the ocean needs any help warming
ah come on
@@filipelimartinsif you consider how much heat these datacenters produce, and the power of aggregates if enough datacenters are deployed, then yes there is going to be an impact - rules of thermodynamics are in fact a thing ...
@@ElGrecoDaGeek yeah now consider how huge the ocean is.
@@ElGrecoDaGeek When you try to sound smart but come off as an idiot instead :/
@@ElGrecoDaGeek ... It would take longer than the Age of the planet to warm the ocean even a degree with even dozens of these in the ocean.
good idea , and creates long term diving ecosystems too, like shipwrecks.
What about maintenance though.
No need, you just mark a server as unavailable. The level of physical failure is very very low these days
@@Gojoe107 what about so called climate change,we are constantly told our oceans are becoming to hot... meanwhile it's okay to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea. .... yeah bill Gates please lecture me about climate change whilst you do what you do.
@louk597 is that a serious comment? The heat output of one of these is nothing in comparison to the mass of the ocean. Even if we moved all the data centres currently active into the ocean, it wouldn't be a blip. Plus the amount of energy saved by not having to cool data centres and the associated reduction in carbon emissions would outweigh any negative impact.
The test unit was built with redunndency in mind, if a server failed there was a backup on standby. I believe in the initial reports about this experiment it was stated that there would be maintenance cycles, they would be lifted from the sea floor every few years and go for upgrades or whatever.
@@frainy345 typical lefty logic not taking into account that if it becomes the trend & more & more & more of them end up in the ocean & as with life some will leak & others will become lost & destroyed + won't be able to inspect server's & again not to mention the electric messing with the fishes senses
It’s also a lot harder to break into.
all fun games till water leaks
theg could have made data centers underground but not underwater bruh imagine taking a sub to go to work lol
now build one in LAKE SUPERIOR!
Even better is to use waste heat to heat buldings. People heat homes with crypto mining. You can link it to heat exchnagers.
Why not just fill them with Nitrogen above the water. Maybe even cryo and in a mountain or cave?
Thank you for sharing.
like vybz kartel said, 'it; is under-water...
Climate alarmists: “We’re boiling the oceans with our cars!”
Microsoft: “let’s put a heat source inside the ocean.”
you underestimate how large the oceans are, this is a small data center, not 4 billion tons of CO2
Could install in a building and use to heat that building or to heat a swimming pool.
Guys, is the ocean! 70% of Earth surface! It's a bit hard for us to warm it with this! even if you build a lot of them in the same place the impact would be minimal or non existent!
Didn't google already do something like this?
Can someone explain the nitrogen purge / filling? No oxygen : prevention of some silicon component oxidation? What hardware part ever gets degraded / decayed does to O2?
isn't that 3y old?
Why has it taken this long to think of such a great and simple idea
Because it's a stupid idea considering they've been telling us the ocean are becoming to hot due to Man made climate change Meanwhile it's ok to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea....
Its still experimental. It has a lot of downsides and theyre not sure if it outweighs the benefits.
Yes the components may last longer, but if something does happen to break and needs replacing you can imagine how expensive that is.
Tech also moves fast and components turn outdated quick, so maintenance is more than just fixing the broken things, its renewing hardware.
I dont have any data, but a server station on a shore pumping in water for cooling instead might turn out the best of both worlds
Wouldn't you be able to do the same thing but easier by just pumping the water on shore and provide cooling that way. Little cost for the power.
Seems awfully complicated and radical. It's like move to Mars earth is dying.😂😂
Under or in the ocean?
"Under" the ocean or "in" the ocean?
Just put the heat exchangers in the ocean... Not the servers.
The point it that the cooling is passive. No need for heat eachangers as the whole vessel acts as one.
Lol people think this would warm the ocean hahahaha be more worried about your cars and electricity that you compsume of burnig carbons, this wouldnt warm nothing my fellas.
No no no, whilst the nitrogen purging side effect was nice, why not use the heat energy for something? Place it near a northern cool city, cool it with heat pumps and supply heated water to buildings.
So we are told the ocean are becoming to hot due to climate change Meanwhile it's fine to stick a bunch of boiling hot computer servers under the Sea... I'm sure the electric humming won't be confusing the fish either.
*too
Compare this to a data center in somewhere hot, where air conditioning needs to run constantly. The coal or natural gas burned to power those systems is many times more relevant than the heat caused by the electronics themselves.
wow
Thought the oceans are warming up according to bill ?
That’s from the energy of the sun that cannot escape from the planet because we generate CO2 for energy to cool data centres.
Since North Stream blast, it should be clear, that everything in the sea is fairly vulnerable and must be avoided !
Give me ur Lamborghini printed tshirt
Looks like a great way to store data from tapped transocean internet cabling!
How is it powered?
...with electricity from a cable? There are a lot of reasonable questions you can ask, but this is the easiest question to figure out yourself.
Both data and electricity are routinely transmitted by undersea cable all around the world. In fact, the vast majority of "the internet" is underwater, and all the islands and major peninsulae of Europe as well as most of North Africa are connected to the same pan-European power grid via underwater cable.
Why not just put them in colder countries?
Because you need data centers close to where people use them. And especially were data cables connect. Which is either right on the coast, or in this case, right off the coast. Just took up the current locations of data centers and you'll see a pattern.
@@Pimmeeuh It's not a bad point though. Cable laying is a considerable expense but quite manageable while a/c costs & demand are only going up.
What about the north of scandinavia fo example. And how is Iceland connected to the net? Canada?
Woo yah let’s heat the ocean little by little from multiple angles & sources! That’ll show ‘em!
If the ocean ever got hot, it might just evaporate and precipitate to cool itself back down. Do people think that heat is permanent? Not only is heat transient, but water basically destroys it. The convection alone would be enough kinetic force to cool itself. It wouldn't even need to evaporate. Heat doesnt just disperse, it also can be converted into kinetic energy, ie evaporation.
You get hurricanes from the evaporation of such hot waters.
thats the way heat up the ocean directly.
🙈😈🐋🐳🦭🦞🐠🐚🪸☠️🤬
And we should dont use cars as warming ab the globe. Microsoft warms the ocean and thats ok? Are you kidding us?
The ocean isn't cool. THE OCEAN IS TOO WARM!
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh bill Gates want you to worry about climate change Meanwhile it's ok for him to stick boiling hot computer server's under the Sea
8 times more reliable? So you are saying that microsoft users have been using equipment that is 8 times less reliable all these years?? I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT!! I SWITCHED TO LINUX BASED MACHINES A DECADE AGO!!
To all the climate experts saying it’s warming the ocean. This is like flicking a lighter in the open
Sure, taken on its own it's nothing. But that's not the point...
Energy is neither created or destroyed, only converted, in this case into warming water. Yes it is negligible but it adds up.
If you consider how much heat these datacenters produce, and the power of aggregates if enough datacenters are deployed, then yes there is going to be an impact - rules of thermodynamics are in fact a thing ...
The key is aggregation. Taken on its own, you're right, it gets overshadowed by the the overall climate and size of the oceans, but in aggregate and coupled with already warming oceans it will have an impact over time, especially as surface ocean temperature rises. H😮ot water/air rises so that effectively becomes the top layer of the ocean surface and that is the key metric impacting shallow water reefs and associated biomes. Coral and fish die off which we're already seeing globally. So before you point the finger at your so-called experts, consider the wider picture.
@@ElGrecoDaGeekdoesn’t matter if it’s on land or water it’s still generating heat
So do you want to generate more CO2 with powered cooling of a data centre. Or do you want to put your data centre in a cool place so you don’t have too. 😂
Wtf
So another way to heat up the ocean…
hmm the ocean hasn't been warmer in the last eon - so why are we trying to dump more heat in it?
So we don’t dump more CO2 in the atmosphere. The sun heats the ocean about a billion times more than a bunch of data centres.
Now… We know why ocean is warming up.
Bill Gates boils the oceans 🤡
If they use dry ice then they will need heat
Then what next send the vessel to the sun 🤔
So the oceans ain't warm enough already? Your local coral reef sez ''gee thanks microsoft''.
Terminator
Microsoft: lets put nuclear radiation submarine data centers under ANTARCTICA since its cold - what could possibly go wrong?
That's not polluting?
What is polluting about it? It's a sealed tube. Nothing goes in, and nothing comes out.
“The ocean is cool.”
Not for long.
I wondered why the North Atlantic is warming up.
So global warming isn’t a thing? 👀😅
you think land based datacentres don't cause gw ?
This didn't age well. The ocean isn't cool now.
Cool...MS will warm the ocean 8x more.
Microsoft pollution
warming up the ocean is not a god idea
Love your content buy why your not I movie star is beyond me. You need better representation. Yes yes I saw you were in 4 movies ( IMDb ) but still at least voiceovers.
Great! Heat up the oceans for data collection. I’m sure the destruction of all the wildlife in the oceans, which we largely haven’t explored but have discovered some have cures for our diseases will be worth it just so that we have Joe’s spreadsheet about the Christmas party from 2006 is in water cooled data storage for future generations to marvel at.