this series is GOLD, one thing i dont quite like from this series is it ends too fast because its so frickin good, please make longer vids of these jamie!
Once again very nice video, always love to see other people's runs. Thank you for featuring my Lyney run, I have had a lot of fun with the double geo core.
she's a staple in my zhongli teams ever since her debut banner, I'm so glad I pulled her but I understand why she's underrated because her kit is awfully boring
@@animatry7410 yes i know but you can still play chiori with her and it would still deliver, obviously c0 chiori would pair better with kachina and at c1 with xilonen.
@@mickysaif ppl don't under rate characters because they have boring kits, like for example fischl or bennet. The fiasco of her release and hoyo locking her second doll behind c1 to continue the fontainian tradition of c1 feeling complete(chiori being the worst without her c1) is what made most ppl look over her potential. They also marketed her as being navia's team mate but you beed c1 to get the most out of her lol hoyo being greedy especially with genshin is nothing new. At least now with natlan support set and kachina/xilonen she just became so much better.
This series is SO fun! Even though I don't really struggle to clear the abyss (I have most 5 star characters and all my 4 stars are fully built) THIS makes me go have fun and try new teams!
@@sriracha3458 There’s a reason you only ever see adaptive damage in small amounts in league, and not as the main stat of completed items. It’s much easier to balance that way. Widsith would be ridiculously broken if it could also give HP%. Hoyo doesn’t want less incentive to pull the signature.
@@tonydai782 i mean people can already clear abyss with f2p weapons so that is already so much less incentive to pull signatures yet people still do because drip and shiny higher rarity. In the grand scheme of thins, them adding hp% wouldn't make much dent to hoyo's overall profit let's be honest they just don't wanna bother.
@@tonydai782 the only thing i can remember was them changing the prototype greatsword's name to prototype archaic. I can't even remember the original name it was so long ago around 1.0-1.2 i think.
Is Chiori + Xilonen really a new core for whale runs? My C1R1 Chiori + C0R0 Xilonen has become my new personal favorite core too (the multiwave is crazy)-but the community still seems to think Chiori is useless! I think our bias towards C0 5☆s is reaching a limit in terms of how the community actually plays the game. At a certain point, you aren't going to want to horizontally invest in more benchwarmers, you're gonna want some investment in your favorites! Glad to hear my fave is getting her time in the sun. Chiori truthers rise up 🗣
This core is good but who are you playing those 2 with ? Navia itto and Noelle you can't cause 3 geo characters xilonen give no res shred , neuvillette its a downgrade , i guess with mualani and arlechino maybe ?
@@kingdoom5022 I've been running them with either Furina+Neuvi or Hu Tao + Xingqiu and loving it, also just random stuff like Furina+Sigewinne or Furina+Kokomi
C0 is an easy f2p entry point that's why. It's also a handy restriction on powerlevel as it's "even" in terms of roster vertical primo investment. Yes you can have premium 5 star but they can be used elsewhere.
The importance of C2 Xilonen in most future geos runs is that it works off field. Which allows for all kinds of flexibility with your rotations. It also means that 100% of your geo damage has a minimum of 36% res shred and 50 dmg%. Xilonen's burst will also probably become more common in geo runs as people get better and better scrolls sets. It has a higher multiplier than 2 Navia shots, but hits over the course of 3 staggered hits. Don't expect navia damage unless you are building her on obsidian though. Just think of it as nice chip damage that you normally can't get in the support slot.
That Ganyu run was so galaxy-brain I'm not sure it registered to me how it happened haha But anyway it's really cool seeing unexpected teams perform in this video
I saw a 12 (5+4+3) seconds double geo C6 Chiori/Xilonen on bilibili the other day. Pretty damn impressive, she definitely scales very well with investment, especially with Xilonen. (It was technically a 2 stack C6 Neuvillette Run too, but you get the point)
I wanted to make a Mualani / Candace / Xinyan team, it works, but I wish my Candace wasn't C6, if the enemy loses the pyro aura, it is hard to get it back.
What do you mean by geo core? if you mean double geo then chiori juat isn't good enough imo cs she doesn't work that good(no constuct) with xilonen. There old good chiori + zhongli. Like you can probably clear abyss with both but it's up to you if you are okay with the dps(basically double geo isn't best for anyone, but ok for most onfield units). Also xilonen+zhongli is pretty popular. I personally don't have chiori so take this with a grain of salt.
Xinyan being used mostly for instant pyro burst application is novelty but i can understand. In that case i think 4 piece Noblesse with a Pyro damage goblet would work well to help maximize her elemental damage seeing that she's not being built for physical. Maybe Sac Sword for energy recharge and cooldown reduction instead of Whiteblind?
Even if I'm not a mualani main, i dont mind more xiangling replacement.. And besides, how do you mualani main use xiangling with her energy hungry playstyle? Even with bennett she is still so energy hungry..
Fav + ER sands (I have ~250% ER; her damage isn't crucial in a Mualani team, so you can focus more on ER) + sometime just Guoba is enough for 1 wave anyway, so you can save your burst in those cases
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I feel like the bigest diferent isnt really the damage. Its more positioning and setup time. Other teams have a long setup, for example i like using Nahida, Yelan, Xingqiu, Kuki and it takes a few seconds just to cast everything, same with the Neuv, Xilonen, Kazuha, Furina team.
Number of 5-star units/constellations, 5-star weapons/refinements. I think there are some other exceptions that qualify or don't qualify, but that's the general gist of it, i.e. how "expensive" your team costs. In speedrunning community they sometimes have certain cost limit, like boxing has different weight classes.
Chiori is not underrated, shes is strong but for the character to use its entirr kit you SHOULD NEVER be forced to get their c1. So no, I am not wasting my primos on 2 Chiori copies while so many characters do way better than her at c0
Let me know if you like this new series, or even ideas you think could improve it to make it even better!
Love ya Jamie your first minute introduction captures most of the gamers voice and not typical salesmen approach.
This series is great! I think we could also have "specific cups" like a chiori cup or eula cup. This way we can get more unique teams showcased.
Me encanta. Gracias por compartir tanto conocimiento! ♥🫡
this series is GOLD, one thing i dont quite like from this series is it ends too fast because its so frickin good, please make longer vids of these jamie!
Hu Tao C1 analysis / review?
Once again very nice video, always love to see other people's runs.
Thank you for featuring my Lyney run, I have had a lot of fun with the double geo core.
Chiori needs more recognition, she really shines now with either xilonen or kachina forming a very solid core at c0 and c1 with xilonen is just godly.
Xilonen doesn't have a construct
she's a staple in my zhongli teams ever since her debut banner, I'm so glad I pulled her but I understand why she's underrated because her kit is awfully boring
@@animatry7410 yes i know but you can still play chiori with her and it would still deliver, obviously c0 chiori would pair better with kachina and at c1 with xilonen.
@@mickysaif ppl don't under rate characters because they have boring kits, like for example fischl or bennet. The fiasco of her release and hoyo locking her second doll behind c1 to continue the fontainian tradition of c1 feeling complete(chiori being the worst without her c1) is what made most ppl look over her potential. They also marketed her as being navia's team mate but you beed c1 to get the most out of her lol hoyo being greedy especially with genshin is nothing new.
At least now with natlan support set and kachina/xilonen she just became so much better.
Why would I play xilonen chiori instead of xilonen furina?
This series is SO fun! Even though I don't really struggle to clear the abyss (I have most 5 star characters and all my 4 stars are fully built) THIS makes me go have fun and try new teams!
I thought I’m the only one crazy enough to fully-build all 4-star characters. It makes running the Imaginarium Theatre a breeze.
that xinyan mualani is absolutely mindblowing
i wonder how many reset they had to do for the proper willsmith buff
imagine if the atk buff was adaptive atk/hp instead like in lol
@@sriracha3458 There’s a reason you only ever see adaptive damage in small amounts in league, and not as the main stat of completed items. It’s much easier to balance that way.
Widsith would be ridiculously broken if it could also give HP%. Hoyo doesn’t want less incentive to pull the signature.
@@tonydai782 i mean people can already clear abyss with f2p weapons so that is already so much less incentive to pull signatures yet people still do because drip and shiny higher rarity. In the grand scheme of thins, them adding hp% wouldn't make much dent to hoyo's overall profit let's be honest they just don't wanna bother.
@@sriracha3458 Yea, have they ever changed a weapon's text after it's released before?
@@tonydai782 the only thing i can remember was them changing the prototype greatsword's name to prototype archaic. I can't even remember the original name it was so long ago around 1.0-1.2 i think.
Is Chiori + Xilonen really a new core for whale runs? My C1R1 Chiori + C0R0 Xilonen has become my new personal favorite core too (the multiwave is crazy)-but the community still seems to think Chiori is useless! I think our bias towards C0 5☆s is reaching a limit in terms of how the community actually plays the game. At a certain point, you aren't going to want to horizontally invest in more benchwarmers, you're gonna want some investment in your favorites!
Glad to hear my fave is getting her time in the sun. Chiori truthers rise up 🗣
yes the duo takes virtually 0 field time and chioris damage is absurd with constellations whilst xilonen also buffs the rest of the team too.
This core is good but who are you playing those 2 with ? Navia itto and Noelle you can't cause 3 geo characters xilonen give no res shred , neuvillette its a downgrade , i guess with mualani and arlechino maybe ?
@@kingdoom5022 I've been running them with either Furina+Neuvi or Hu Tao + Xingqiu and loving it, also just random stuff like Furina+Sigewinne or Furina+Kokomi
I already got c0 xilonen and chiori's sig so after mavuika i'd definitely try save for c1 chiori.
C0 is an easy f2p entry point that's why. It's also a handy restriction on powerlevel as it's "even" in terms of roster vertical primo investment. Yes you can have premium 5 star but they can be used elsewhere.
I love the commentary and the variance of runs you chose. That Alhaitham one is honestly awesome
Edit: also the Ganyu one!
The importance of C2 Xilonen in most future geos runs is that it works off field. Which allows for all kinds of flexibility with your rotations. It also means that 100% of your geo damage has a minimum of 36% res shred and 50 dmg%. Xilonen's burst will also probably become more common in geo runs as people get better and better scrolls sets. It has a higher multiplier than 2 Navia shots, but hits over the course of 3 staggered hits. Don't expect navia damage unless you are building her on obsidian though. Just think of it as nice chip damage that you normally can't get in the support slot.
Thank you so much jamie:)))
That Ganyu run was so galaxy-brain I'm not sure it registered to me how it happened haha
But anyway it's really cool seeing unexpected teams perform in this video
I saw a 12 (5+4+3) seconds double geo C6 Chiori/Xilonen on bilibili the other day. Pretty damn impressive, she definitely scales very well with investment, especially with Xilonen.
(It was technically a 2 stack C6 Neuvillette Run too, but you get the point)
I love the educational commentary YT content, thanks man.
My favorite thing about Xilonen is how I can now use my c1 Chiori with her
These waves of 2 enemies were made for Xinyan.
I didn’t know that about Mualani! Thank you, this was helpful
I've been a chiori believer and got her c2 in her original run so seeing her used so often in this makes me happy :prayge:
Nice content with good breakdown !
I wanted to make a Mualani / Candace / Xinyan team, it works, but I wish my Candace wasn't C6, if the enemy loses the pyro aura, it is hard to get it back.
try sucrose or kazuha instead of candace
I wouldn’t mind a follow up video on the new duo geo core and its meta relevance with older units!
Ganyu speedruns are insane in terms of skill
This was fun, I liked this :)
RECOGNITION FOR GANYU MELT🎉
2:52 ok, you just convinced me to pull mualani
I need the new geo core video ASAP coz chiori's banner is ending tomorrow KEKW IM CONTEMPLATING
What do you mean by geo core? if you mean double geo then chiori juat isn't good enough imo cs she doesn't work that good(no constuct) with xilonen. There old good chiori + zhongli. Like you can probably clear abyss with both but it's up to you if you are okay with the dps(basically double geo isn't best for anyone, but ok for most onfield units).
Also xilonen+zhongli is pretty popular.
I personally don't have chiori so take this with a grain of salt.
I’d be so much more inclined to build Xinyan if she felt more universal as a character like Thoma. Her design is cool
You need to see kinch speed run He does 40s continues with 6 cost
love the xinyan team
Xinyan being used mostly for instant pyro burst application is novelty but i can understand. In that case i think 4 piece Noblesse with a Pyro damage goblet would work well to help maximize her elemental damage seeing that she's not being built for physical. Maybe Sac Sword for energy recharge and cooldown reduction instead of Whiteblind?
can i use Mappa Mare if i dont have sac frag on my sucrose im using yout previous Mualani xilo, XL sucrose team? thanks
yes or widsith or magic guide
@@jamiekb9v thanks a lot,
these guys are cracked
Quality content
No internat run tho 😭
Even if I'm not a mualani main, i dont mind more xiangling replacement.. And besides, how do you mualani main use xiangling with her energy hungry playstyle? Even with bennett she is still so energy hungry..
Fav + ER sands (I have ~250% ER; her damage isn't crucial in a Mualani team, so you can focus more on ER) + sometime just Guoba is enough for 1 wave anyway, so you can save your burst in those cases
is Xinyan worth building low con for mualani
Do a showcase of your navia xilonen on this new abyss especially on second half
How does one sign up to be featured in these videos? I am in the discord and have also done Noelle runs. I would love to be featured.
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I feel like the bigest diferent isnt really the damage.
Its more positioning and setup time.
Other teams have a long setup, for example i like using Nahida, Yelan, Xingqiu, Kuki and it takes a few seconds just to cast everything, same with the Neuv, Xilonen, Kazuha, Furina team.
In speedruns, speed (of setup) often beats theoretical damage (i'm a speedrunner)
i dont even have a c0 xinyan even though i spent 160 wishes for mualani 😢
That's your cue to uninstall
I hear "cost.... cost.... cost" - what cost is meant here?
Number of 5-star units/constellations, 5-star weapons/refinements.
I think there are some other exceptions that qualify or don't qualify, but that's the general gist of it, i.e. how "expensive" your team costs.
In speedrunning community they sometimes have certain cost limit, like boxing has different weight classes.
Chiori real
23 cost ganyu run lmaooo💀
I am upset
Chiori is not underrated, shes is strong but for the character to use its entirr kit you SHOULD NEVER be forced to get their c1. So no, I am not wasting my primos on 2 Chiori copies while so many characters do way better than her at c0
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xinyan 😱😱😱
Is c2 Dehya good substitude for Xianyun?